FYI the correct way to use the NOCO Genius 10 and it’s repair feature is: 1. First charge the battery full normally until you see it flashing green (maintenance mode once it’s full) 2. Then you can use repair mode which does its stuff to clear up the sulphated/Stratified cells If you hook it into repair mode and it’s not fully charged your battery will just enter charge and maintenance mode instead and not do a proper repair mode. You probably works have gotten better results if done properly. It’s an excellent piece of kit though, I have and used the Genius 10 (and GB40 jump starter) many times (currently using it on a 7 year old AGM 80AH Mercedes battery)
Usmaan Ayub, Thanks for the comment, I forgot to mention that when I pulled out this battery on my Civic that I've just charged it with the Genius 10, So before I used the repair mode it's already been charged (sorry for the confusion). Anyway thanks for the advise on how to do repair mode, I really do appreciate it. More DIY & Mods coming soon. Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
@@edcardiy It’s an excellent piece of kit 😎 very useful for anyone with a car - especially in colder climates. Always use this and continuing to drive if it’s ok before going straight to mechanic who will straight away say replace
my understanding is that the repair mode will charge it first before beginning repair mode. this understanding comes from a comment from NOCO support in an amazon q&a ... "The Repair Mode last approximately 4 hours then it should go to Standby Mode. If the battery is not completely charged prior to Repair Mode beginning then the charger will enter a Normal charge. During this time the charger will display the flashing Repair Mode LED but the charge percentage LEDs will begin pulsing. When the charger shows a solid green 100% LED and the flashing Repair Mode LED the repair and charge are complete."
@@danielbothman3511 yes that’s correct, it’ll charge it to full then start doing the repair process with high volt pulses to try de sulphate/de Calsify etc
@@danielbothman3511So is it not needed to charge it in the 12 bolt mode first? The 12 volt repair mode will charge it first and then repair it automatically?
Great vid! This was very useful because I didn't know how to tell whether mine was finished or not. The instructions aren't good. For anyone looking to see what it looks like when the repair mode has finished, go to 5:23. Thanks for making this!
Zen Mikey, Thanks for the comment, I'm glad that you enjoyed the video, More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Well he forgot to mention, in order for repair mode to work properly you first charge to 100%. That's when the flgreen lights starts glowing. Then go into repair mode. Manual clearly states how it works
There are more points to consider: 1. Untangle all wires that are under load 2. If electrolyte level of the battery wasn't good, nothing can repair it 3. Manual says make full charge before using repair mode 4. Clean battery outside. Dirt can be conductive
Havendale Farms, That's a good idea, I will keep that in mind next time I do another battery video. More DIY & Mods coming soon. Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
almonies, Thanks for the idea, I will keep that in mind, I will also try that next time I do repair mode video. More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
It's a nice feature for sure. I have a genius 50pro and it has saved a lot of batteries for customers. It isn't fool proof and doesn't always work but most of the time it does. If you are really determined to revive an expensive battery you can keep repeating repair mode multiple times as well as I have seen similar results you had after one attempt but after 4 times of running repair mode it will finally bring it back. You just need to monitor the battery temp as it can get really hot
Great video and demo on a Noco Genius 10 repair mode. My electronics teacher in high school always stated to use baking soda and water to clean the battery terminals and corrosion. I would have also checked the battery electrolyte level since you have removable covers. I use a Pulsetech PowerPulse passive battery desulfator that you leave connected to the battery all the time on my BMW battery for the past three years and have had no problems with it starting my car even though I drive less then 25 miles a week and states that it's patented frequency can increase your battery life span up to three times and is used by the U.S military. I would like to see you demo it and test if it works after several weeks of use on a sulfated battery.
Some battery's need few cycles to recover long as you see improvement with each cycle keep trying . I'm in process recovering a optima blue top 11 years old. I started it had 9 CCA 200 MILLIOHMS . CURRENTLY IT HAS 15 milliohms 350 CCA IT keeps showing signs of improvement , keep trying see how much I can get it to recover , I did put a headline to do a discharge to recharge it , lite draws 3.2 amps I left it on for 5 hours till drew voltage down to 12 volts . So it's showing promising results
Thank you for sharing your experience with us! It's great to hear that the battery is showing signs of improvement. Keep us updated! More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
The battery probably has a short between the cells. Sometimes they won't short till the amps increase so the battery tester won't pick that up. Sulfite crystals form causing the cells to expand or flex creating a short. So that's too much to expect the Norco to repair and unfair to say it failed!! Take it to a recycle centre and move on!
Jon DV, Yes, I did charged the battery while it's in the car, before I pulled it out of the car and do repair mode. I did replaced a new battery on my Civic, More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Thanks for this video. So during repair mode I think the red light will just keep flashing, right? Also, if the battery is >5 years old (still working), it's probably a good idea to use "repair" battery from time to time, right? Thanks!
For some reason NO one mentions the importance of measured "internal resistance" provided by the tester. If you rewatch this video and pay particular attention to the measured internal resistance before and after the "repair", you'll notice internal resistance goes from 27+ milli-ohms to 8.8 milli-ohms. For a 12volt battery to function adequately its internal resistance MUST remain between 3 and 5 milli-olms. Another "repair" charge or two may bring this battery within the REQUIRED 3 to 5 milli-olm range to enable the battery to function normally. Try adding distilled water to the low fluid cells, if any, charge normally, THEN try another repair cycle or two, TAKING SPECIAL NOTE OF THE "MEASURED" INTERNAL RESISTANCE. If the measured internal resistance continues to decrease with each repair cycle then continue repair cycles until the battery's internal resistance falls within the 3 to 5 milli-olm range. If you can't get there you'll know the battery is truly DONE.
It could be possible, but this battery is too old anyway, So I've just decided to buy a new battery instead. More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Comparing two screenshots battery parameters did improve between repair cycles: Healthy 3% -> 37%, Charge 2% -> 98% ... Internal Resistance dropped to 8.83. So if you do this again, it will probably work ok
Yes this 12volt charger do repair on regular flooded battery, agm & lithium batteries. More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
@@edcardiy I was just curios as I had a deep cycle recently fail. I found it was really low on water when it failed. I topped it off, ran repair mode like 4 times and only gain 40-50% back.
33 G, Thanks for the comment, No you don't need to take the battery out of the car to do repair mode, But you have to disconnect the positive and the negative cable from the car. The NOCO charger must be the only thing connected to the battery while doing repair mode. More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Since the repair mode works with 16.5 volts, does it damage the vehicle's brain, that is, the electronics? plus minus i don't want to remove the cables because the tape may lose the password
No, The NOCO Genius 10 is not a jump starter pack, it's just a charger. You can watch my video about the jump starter pack NOCO GB40 (ruclips.net/video/cSGP7MA9W5k/видео.html )or GBX55 (ruclips.net/video/tvVmvbNsxLk/видео.html ) Both these videos are Jump Starter Pack from NOCO. More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Jacob L, This is a sealed battery, there is no way to check the water level. I remember in the old days, they use to have caps on each cell to check the water level per cell. More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Those two rectangular blocky things on the top of the battery are the caps for the cells. Each cap plugs three cells. You can see the corrossion / acid has leaked out from under those caps. Most likely the tops of the lead plates were exposed and you could have added distilled water to the battery. Then charge fully, then use repair mode. @@edcardiy
newjazzmusic7078, The battery tester is Ancel BA101, Here is the link: amzn.to/3PdQ0TW Hope this helps you, More DIY & MOds coming soon. Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Never give that better charger a chance. Why are you doing the whole documentary? The battery charge was falling right in front of you. 13.6 means that it had each one of the cells had or 2 battery needs to be washed out. The lead in the bottom of it was making the connection. The light from better charger needs to be a solid green for it to be done.
FYI the correct way to use the NOCO Genius 10 and it’s repair feature is:
1. First charge the battery full normally until you see it flashing green (maintenance mode once it’s full)
2. Then you can use repair mode which does its stuff to clear up the sulphated/Stratified cells
If you hook it into repair mode and it’s not fully charged your battery will just enter charge and maintenance mode instead and not do a proper repair mode.
You probably works have gotten better results if done properly.
It’s an excellent piece of kit though, I have and used the Genius 10 (and GB40 jump starter) many times (currently using it on a 7 year old AGM 80AH Mercedes battery)
Usmaan Ayub, Thanks for the comment, I forgot to mention that when I pulled out this battery on my Civic that I've just charged it with the Genius 10,
So before I used the repair mode it's already been charged (sorry for the confusion).
Anyway thanks for the advise on how to do repair mode, I really do appreciate it. More DIY & Mods coming soon.
Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
@@edcardiy It’s an excellent piece of kit 😎 very useful for anyone with a car - especially in colder climates. Always use this and continuing to drive if it’s ok before going straight to mechanic who will straight away say replace
my understanding is that the repair mode will charge it first before beginning repair mode. this understanding comes from a comment from NOCO support in an amazon q&a ...
"The Repair Mode last approximately 4 hours then it should go to Standby Mode. If the battery is not completely charged prior to Repair Mode beginning then the charger will enter a Normal charge. During this time the charger will display the flashing Repair Mode LED but the charge percentage LEDs will begin pulsing. When the charger shows a solid green 100% LED and the flashing Repair Mode LED the repair and charge are complete."
@@danielbothman3511 yes that’s correct, it’ll charge it to full then start doing the repair process with high volt pulses to try de sulphate/de Calsify etc
@@danielbothman3511So is it not needed to charge it in the 12 bolt mode first? The 12 volt repair mode will charge it first and then repair it automatically?
Great vid! This was very useful because I didn't know how to tell whether mine was finished or not. The instructions aren't good. For anyone looking to see what it looks like when the repair mode has finished, go to 5:23.
Thanks for making this!
Zen Mikey, Thanks for the comment, I'm glad that you enjoyed the video, More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Well he forgot to mention, in order for repair mode to work properly you first charge to 100%. That's when the flgreen lights starts glowing. Then go into repair mode. Manual clearly states how it works
There are more points to consider:
1. Untangle all wires that are under load
2. If electrolyte level of the battery wasn't good, nothing can repair it
3. Manual says make full charge before using repair mode
4. Clean battery outside. Dirt can be conductive
its a good idea to wash the entire battery. sometimes they leak power thur corrosives on the outside that are linked to the posts
Havendale Farms, That's a good idea, I will keep that in mind next time I do another battery video. More DIY & Mods coming soon.
Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
@@edcardiy I have a Assoiciates Degree in Heavy Duty Diesel mechanics. And one of my proffessors maintained that.
I have seen people put the battery through several repair mode cycles and get a better result after each cycle.
almonies, Thanks for the idea, I will keep that in mind, I will also try that next time I do repair mode video.
More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Thank you uncle Ed for the noco 10 test as it's what I needed to see before purchasing.
Thanks for the comment, I'm glad that this video helped you in making your decision about the NOCO genius 10.
Thanks for watching!!!👍
It's a nice feature for sure. I have a genius 50pro and it has saved a lot of batteries for customers. It isn't fool proof and doesn't always work but most of the time it does.
If you are really determined to revive an expensive battery you can keep repeating repair mode multiple times as well as I have seen similar results you had after one attempt but after 4 times of running repair mode it will finally bring it back. You just need to monitor the battery temp as it can get really hot
Thanks for the advise, I will try that next time I'm reviving an old battery. Thanks for watching!!!👍
Great video and demo on a Noco Genius 10 repair mode. My electronics teacher in high school always stated to use baking soda and water to clean the battery terminals and corrosion. I would have also checked the battery electrolyte level since you have removable covers. I use a Pulsetech PowerPulse passive battery desulfator that you leave connected to the battery all the time on my BMW battery for the past three years and have had no problems with it starting my car even though I drive less then 25 miles a week and states that it's patented frequency can increase your battery life span up to three times and is used by the U.S military. I would like to see you demo it and test if it works after several weeks of use on a sulfated battery.
Some battery's need few cycles to recover long as you see improvement with each cycle keep trying . I'm in process recovering a optima blue top 11 years old. I started it had 9 CCA 200 MILLIOHMS . CURRENTLY IT HAS 15 milliohms 350 CCA IT keeps showing signs of improvement , keep trying see how much I can get it to recover , I did put a headline to do a discharge to recharge it , lite draws 3.2 amps I left it on for 5 hours till drew voltage down to 12 volts . So it's showing promising results
Thank you for sharing your experience with us! It's great to hear that the battery is showing signs of improvement. Keep us updated!
More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Few round of charging or repair?
The battery probably has a short between the cells. Sometimes they won't short till the amps increase so the battery tester won't pick that up. Sulfite crystals form causing the cells to expand or flex creating a short. So that's too much to expect the Norco to repair and unfair to say it failed!! Take it to a recycle centre and move on!
The manual says to charge then use repair mode. Did you charge it before?
Jon DV, Yes, I did charged the battery while it's in the car, before I pulled it out of the car and do repair mode.
I did replaced a new battery on my Civic, More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Is the repair light supposed to flash red?
Thanks for this video. So during repair mode I think the red light will just keep flashing, right? Also, if the battery is >5 years old (still working), it's probably a good idea to use "repair" battery from time to time, right? Thanks!
Yes but before you do repair you should charge it full otherwise if you hit repair and it’s not full it’ll flash and just enter charge mode instead.
For some reason NO one mentions the importance of measured "internal resistance" provided by the tester. If you rewatch this video and pay particular attention to the measured internal resistance before and after the "repair", you'll notice internal resistance goes from 27+ milli-ohms to 8.8 milli-ohms. For a 12volt battery to function adequately its internal resistance MUST remain between 3 and 5 milli-olms. Another "repair" charge or two may bring this battery within the REQUIRED 3 to 5 milli-olm range to enable the battery to function normally. Try adding distilled water to the low fluid cells, if any, charge normally, THEN try another repair cycle or two, TAKING SPECIAL NOTE OF THE "MEASURED" INTERNAL RESISTANCE. If the measured internal resistance continues to decrease with each repair cycle then continue repair cycles until the battery's internal resistance falls within the 3 to 5 milli-olm range. If you can't get there you'll know the battery is truly DONE.
It could be possible, but this battery is too old anyway, So I've just decided to buy a new battery instead.
More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Comparing two screenshots battery parameters did improve between repair cycles:
Healthy 3% -> 37%, Charge 2% -> 98% ... Internal Resistance dropped to 8.83.
So if you do this again, it will probably work ok
Probably, But it's too late now, I already dispose the battery at the recycling centre.
Thanks for watching!!!👍
@@edcardiy Awesome. Thank you for a great video!
Thank you for this professional video, but I have a question: Can I use the repair mod for
an AGM battery?
Yes this 12volt charger do repair on regular flooded battery, agm & lithium batteries.
More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Was it full of distilled water and fully charged before doing the repair mode?
Yes water is full and tried to fully charged but it wouldn't fully charged that is why I tried the repair mode, Thanks for watching!!!👍
@@edcardiy I was just curios as I had a deep cycle recently fail. I found it was really low on water when it failed. I topped it off, ran repair mode like 4 times and only gain 40-50% back.
Good video bro!!
One question - does the battery HAVE to be taken out the car when using the repair mode on NOCO chargers?
33 G, Thanks for the comment, No you don't need to take the battery out of the car to do repair mode, But you have to disconnect the positive and the negative cable from the car. The NOCO charger must be the only thing connected to the battery while doing repair mode.
More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
I've actually successfully done repair mode with cables still connected as well as charged my batteries.
Since the repair mode works with 16.5 volts, does it damage the vehicle's brain, that is, the electronics? plus minus i don't want to remove the cables because the tape may lose the password
I read that you should disconnect the positive as well, as the higher voltage used during repair could damage something within the car.
Does the NOCO GENIUS 10 needs to be plugged in to a power source to charge or repair a dead battery ? Can it ever be used as a jump starter?
No, The NOCO Genius 10 is not a jump starter pack, it's just a charger. You can watch my video about the jump starter pack NOCO GB40 (ruclips.net/video/cSGP7MA9W5k/видео.html )or GBX55 (ruclips.net/video/tvVmvbNsxLk/видео.html ) Both these videos are Jump Starter Pack from NOCO.
More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Did you check the water level of the battery before attempting the repair?
Jacob L, This is a sealed battery, there is no way to check the water level. I remember in the old days, they use to have caps on each cell to check the water level per cell.
More DIY & Mods coming soon, Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
Those two rectangular blocky things on the top of the battery are the caps for the cells. Each cap plugs three cells. You can see the corrossion / acid has leaked out from under those caps. Most likely the tops of the lead plates were exposed and you could have added distilled water to the battery. Then charge fully, then use repair mode.
@@edcardiy
My instructions say to fully charge the battery prior to using repair.
I did try charging it but it doesn't hold the charge, That's why I did the repair mode. Thanks for watching!!!👍
Can you try this test using the welder battery restore method?
Sorry but I don't know that method, What is the welder battery restore method?
@edcardiy .... don't even consider it .... the battery is not worth the risk to yourself.
Can the 12v repair be used on 6v battery?
I haven't really tried that, because I don't have any 6V battery, I have to look into that.
Thanks for watching!!!👍
@edcardiy I have 2 6v batteries for my camper and I just hooked them up to make 12v and did the repair
The manual calls for a normal 12v charge to full before using repair mode. You didnt even take the zip ties off your cables lol
This battery was charged full while in the car, I just removed from the car to do the repair mode.
What brand is the Radiator / Heater Core Cleaner?
What is the battery tester that you are using ?
TY
newjazzmusic7078, The battery tester is Ancel BA101, Here is the link: amzn.to/3PdQ0TW
Hope this helps you, More DIY & MOds coming soon.
Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE and Thanks for watching!!!👍
@@edcardiy TY for your response
What model multimeter do you use?
FLUKE 17+B
I've been able to re-vive some but not all. Batteries are like people. There's no fixing some of them 😂
Thanks for sharing your experience with reviving batteries, it's always a learning process!
Thanks for watching!!!👍
Excellent video, simple and easy to understand. love your channel !
Isaac Israel.
Awesome, thank you!👍
Never give that better charger a chance. Why are you doing the whole documentary? The battery charge was falling right in front of you. 13.6 means that it had each one of the cells had or 2 battery needs to be washed out. The lead in the bottom of it was making the connection. The light from better charger needs to be a solid green for it to be done.
No need for silly loud music in the background.