One of the best reviews of genius 10.. This actually explains nicely each mode and how to select it & what exactly each mode does.. Very nice for a novice home owner, who wants an all round general purpose battery charger (kids car +my car). Thank you.
Good review. Note this: some batteries, depending on the capacity and condition, will take up to 48 hours in the maintenance mode, to fully reach 100%. The single green LED will pulse until the DC voltage reaches 15.5 DC. (FACT CHECK THAT) Then the LED will turn solid Green. This is not stated in the directions, but NOCO tech support will "school" you if you are having trouble. I recharged up a standard 585 CCA lead acid battery. It took around 36 hours before the Green light turned solid. To convert the CCA to Ah, multiply the CCA rating by .7 (.725 to be precise.) I have used NOCO products for a few years now. This Genius 10 is a fine unit.
Yeah I was wondering about how long it takes even with a 10amp charger it take forever I had disconnected before full charge since I tought it be done is 24 hrs but apparently I was wrong
Yeah thanks I was totally wondering about that too! Must be like it really has to slow down from bulking the battery but then it like takes a long time to force that last little bit slowly!
I watched this video and bought the Genius10 charger from High-Tech Battery Solutions. Received it early today and it's being used right now. Everything has worked perfectly, so far. The video made understanding and using the charger much easier.
Your review was a touch above the rest as you went into the faults and explanation in a clear instructions and nice to see the buttons marked out and a quick and professional explanation on the faults that you may come across. Thanks
Man, I really appreciate this review. The user manual is very vague and quite useless and I've had trouble figuring the charger out - then I found this. Thank You!
At the beginning of the video, you said the Genius 10 is the predecessor of the 7200 series. I think you meant the opposite. The 7200 series is the predecessor to the Genius 10 series.
Very good video. Very informative and clearly explained. One thing you could add is the different ways the 4 charging lights(red red orange and green) behave in different scenarios relating to the charging process. I’ve noticed with the batteries I’ve been charging over the last few days that the solid green is really the only one that signifies that a battery is actually fully charged, would this be correct?
Just bought one and the connectors on the charging leads won’t connect together. NOCO says send it back to the supplier or take pictures of the connector and send to them. Either way it’s unusable, so be prepared to purchase one with something defective and having to send it back. Don’t expect to buy it and then use it, unless you’re willing to splice the wires and void your warranty. What else might go wrong with this product along with bad connectors ?
You know, when to turn the self facing mode on whether it's dead or churged. What does it mean when you have a green and red light flashing back-and-forth?
Here at the shop we only use the repair mode if there's a problem with the battery. If a customer brings in a battery that was left sitting discharged for a period of time, if a battery is having trouble retaining voltage, or if we see a reduced capacity in a battery that doesn't match up with its age and use.
I just bought one of these as I have a deeply discharged battery and I wanted a charger with the force mode. To begin with however I just wanted to charge a standard 12v car battery. When I plugged it in I expected a steady progression through the charge level indicators from one red block through to the full bar (two reds, an orange and a green). What actually happens is the first red blinks for a while, then the first goes solid and the second blinks a coup,e of times then it goes down to no lights then, after a while it goes up to the Amber for one pulse then back to nothing. It doesn’t seem to progress through the bars but seems to be going up and back down? Is it charging? Is the battery OK? Why don’t the instructions tell you what to expect and what the changing lights mean?
Leave it connected, it sounds like you have an issue with your battery - possibly that it's not retaining the charge. The charger will error out if the battery is not recoverable.
The green light on the charger will still fully lit, when its blinking the battery is at a 95% charge level or better - the charger will taper down its output to get the battery to a 100% charge level.
The pros of this new model year are every all car and bike battery types chargeable, the cons is the NOCO connectors is very hot the result is charging voltage is lower than described for example the charging voltage for AMG battery is only 14.1 Volts lower than 14.7 Volts as described. This is the event that I had monitored to charging voltage graph . I had replaced the connectors with Anderson power pole connectors and charging cables with the thicker cables.
You would select the charger setting that matched the chemistry of the battery you're trying to charge. Once the battery is fully charged then the unit will kick over into its maintenance mode automatically.
No one talks about the AC connection and people who know nothing need to know how long you keep it plugged into the AC outlet, how often you charge it if you don't use it and how you tell it is holding a charge and ready to use? Thanks for any schooling on this so I understand.
Just to confirm, there is no internal battery in this unit - its a straight battery charger that must be plugged into an AC outlet in order to charge a battery.
There's just not very many videos. Unlike the default fading modes, how the green lights really work. How long does it really take? How much voltage is really going into the battery? Is it okay to keep the software in the battery if it's Not working keep doing it over and over again
Yes, the NOCO GENIUS10 unit needs to be plugged into an AC outlet in order to charger or repair any battery. The unit does not have an internal battery and relies on AC to power it.
@@HighTechBatterySolutionsInc And here's all 4 of their new Genius series. It also includes some estimated charging time charts based on different size batteries at 50% discharge. So I have a question for you and probably have more after I get my charger. Unfortunately I have the Genius5 on the way (5amp) only to find out the boat I bought has a 114 AH deep cycle 12 v which could handle the Genius10 you reviewed and would have cut my recharging time in half. Bummer! Oh well... So do I charge the deep cycle 12 v battery in the "normal" 12 volt mode? Thanks! I don't think they've been on their website very long. Here ya go> no.co/products/charging/multipurpose
@@dandettmann595 If your batteries are flooded then yes you will be charging on the 12V normal mode. If your running sealed AGM series in there then you're going to be using the AGM mode.
One thing about noco charger products loke the g10 is if you live in the northern cold and it stays in the cold, the cables get extremely bridle and break very easy. I've had one break like that, and it broke right where the cables come out of the body. So just be careful if they are cold. Have a good day.
What happens if my battery stands for 8 amps, does this charger adapts to the battery to supply 8 amps? Battery is earthx ETX18F with bms integrated system
My charger cycles up to green all charging led's still flash including green sits there for about 5 seconds and then starts over . Is this normal or do i have a defective charger.? Thank you.. After an hour passed it is no longer cycling. 3 solid bars and green pulsing only. I know believe the intial period may have been some kind of maintanance mode t but i didnt initiate it. Might be an important thing to include in the manual lol.
Do you have another battery that you can try the charger on to see if you can replicate the problem? I have seen this once before and it was an actual battery issue, but if the same thing happens on another battery you know is good (like your everyday driver) then its time to start looking at the charger.
If your battery needs to be repaired will it automatically detect this and do it for you or will you have to select it? And if you’re unsure if you put a perfectly fine battery on repair mode will it damage it the battery?
The charger will detect sulfation during its regular charge mode and begin the repair process as part of the algorithm. I always caution people to not overuse the repair mode. Due to the higher charging voltages used in that mode, it could shorten the life span of AGM batteries if used excessively.
I have an Interlock Device in my car and it drains my battery. I bought this Noco and charge my car 3-4 times a week. However, I needed a jump today as my battery was at 8.9v Any suggestions would be so appreciated!
I would recommend getting the battery tested ASAP to eliminate the battery as being the issue first and foremost. If the battery is testing good, then I would suggest contacting the company that installed the interlock to see why the drain is so high. We have seen this a few times, sometimes customers are able to take the vehicle back in to get an adjustment made to the interlock to either draw less, or not draw at all until the key is engaged.
Hi there, a quick question. If the battery in my car is drained, will I be able to connect the Noco Genius10 and have it charge the battery back to full, then start up my car? I mean without taking the battery out of the car? Or would that work at all?
The pictures in the manual suggest when it's at full charge, the first 3 orange lights are off. Is that correct? Also, as soon as it hits full charge, it'll probably go into maintenance mode right away. I don't think we'll ever see the solid green at all. I've been charging my 12V 60Ah car battery since last night and 12+ hours later, I'm looking at 3 solid orange and pulsing green. Just hoping this is the expected behavior and it's in maintenance mode.
Let the charger continue through its charging process - you will see the solid green when it's done. When the light is solid green then it hit its maintenance mode and charge as needed.
My son give me the Noco Genius 10. I have a 2019 Camaro SS. Planning to store it for the winter months, at least three to four months. How do I use this charger to keep my battery charged? Great video, by the way.
Did you end up getting this charger just wondering because I have a 2016 SS Camaro that I store for the Winter I had a CTech charger but it burned up so I'm looking in to one of these noco's
this went right over my head...so, quick question. I opened the box, plugged it in for three days. Nothing changed on the lights to indicate it was full. I suppose I'm old school. I need to put a charge on my car that has been sitting for a few months...someone told me to put it on a slow charge for a few days to get it back working as the battery is only a yr old. Help please....
Haven’t made my purchase yet. Perhaps it’s clear to everyone but me but I have a question related to the Genius 10. When charging a 12 V battery do I always have to select “repair” mode when I start charging (or does routine charging begin after simply selecting “type” of battery)? Is “repair” mode ONLY selected when reconditioning a battery is necessary?
You would only select repair mode if you know the battery is sulfated. When you're going to charge a 12V battery you would start by selecting the proper battery type - you do not have to select repair mode to begin charging any battery.
Its hard to tell, but can I use this to jump start my old Maxima 2000 car battery? Its completely dead and hasnt run in a few weeks. I just need to get it to the point where I can move it to another location within a 100 yards
Thanks for all the explanations. Can repair mode be used on an AGM battery? I keep getting Battery Not Hold Charge error. Should I try the Repair mode? Thx.
If you keep getting the No Hold Charge error then you have nothing to lose by trying the repair mode. If it errors out in the repair mode then your looking at more than just capacity loss as an issue with the battery. I always recommend the repair mode be used only necessary with AGM series batteries. The reason being is that the repair mode can cause gassing in the battery and as you know with a sealed AGM series - you can't replace that lost water.
Yes, the NOCO GENIUS10 charger does need to be plugged in to function. Keep in mind that this is an AC powered battery charger - its not a jump starter and does not have an internal battery.
I can't get my noco 10 to start charging all it does is LED shuffle back and forth then goes to power light. I just bought it used one time and done as it should but now it's not what am I doing wrong
So how do you know when it's done repairing the battery. I threw a good battery in repair mode supposedly but all it does is beep red forever. Charged it and it charged pretty but I don't know how to know when repair mode is complete or done proper.
It should be blinking - thats a sign the repair mode is engaged. It takes about 4 hours to complete and once its done the charger will return to standby mode.
Is it safe for car electronics and for the unit itself, to leave it ON in a charging mode while working on a car(ignition ON engine OFF type scenario during reprograming or troubleshooting electrical issue) thank you for review.
All of the standard charge modes have the maintenance mode built into them - as soon as the battery is fully charged then the unit will automatically act as a battery maintainer.
I ve been using the 3500 to trickle. The marine battery I have is just over 1 year old and used twice. I got lazy with the trickle maintenance and now the 3500 has that triangle yellow exclamation point when I try to use it. Would this one you demo help this battery situation?
Just to confirm there is no internal battery in the GENIUS10 unit - this battery charger must be plugged into a wall outlet in order to charge a battery.
Hi,I’ve just used this device to recharge a new deep cycle marine battery, which I bought a couple of months ago, but haven’t yet put into use. Is it to be expected that it would have run down to less than 25% charged in that time, and how could I tell if I needed to employ the repair mode?Thank you.
Deep cycle batteries will lose a % of their charge every day when sitting idle, so depending on how long it sat it's certainly possible. Since the battery is so new I would not worry about using the repair mode. This is for batteries that are on the older side and heavily sulfated.
Thanks for the review 👍 In the detail description of charger it states that it can charge deep cycle battery, What setting should I use for charging deep cycle battery ?
Good question, I'm not 100% sure on this so I would recommend only using the manual repair mode on batteries that are disconnected from the vehicle. The problem is a lot of the newer cars have computer systems built in that I would assume could be affected by high voltage spikes - better to play it safe than sorry.
Before plugging in the A.C. plug, put on the battery clamps. Then plug in the A.C. Put the unit into the Repair mode. The red LED will flash on and off. for around 4 hours and then the unit automatically switches out of the Repair mode. However, if the battery is too badly damaged, the Repair mode will end early. Not all batteries can be "Repaired".
I'm charging my car battery (12V, Lead/Acid) with the NOCO Genius 10. The Charge LED's (25% & 50%) blink red then go solid, then the 75% blinks orange, but then, usually, it goes back down to the 25% and starts over again. Once it did go to the 100 LED, turned green, but then again went back to the 25%. Is this normal when charging?
Thats not normal, I have seen this happen to us when attempting to charge batteries that were either to far gone and not able to retain a charge or from batteries that had a constant drain on them while charging. Either way I think its worth taking the battery into a shop to get tested to see whats going on.
Nice review. What voltage does the charger allow the battery to drop to before it kicks in and starts charging again? I had mine get my battery up to about 14V and when I checked on it a couple of weeks later it had dropped to 12.5(ish)V and the green light was solid, indicating full charge still. I switched the charger off and on again and it started the charging process and had the battery back up to 13V in a few minutes. Is there an issue? Battery only a few months old. Thanks.
I ran your question by NOCO, here is their official response: It sounds like the battery may not be holding a good resting voltage, and the charger may be timing out. The maintenance trickle charge should start when the voltage drops below 12.7V, and the LED should be pulsing green. If the battery is not holding a good resting voltage, the charger will timeout and stop applying the charge to prevent overcharging the battery. If the voltage drops below 12.4V the charger will start the full charge over.
Yes, the higher the number the higher the charge rate. You also get access to more charger features such as supply / repair mode the higher up the chain you move.
Thanks for the informative review, do you happen to know what the output is in supply mode? I.e would be suitable for when reflashing/coding ecu's? Thanks.
40 ah aküyü 4 satte mi doldurur..öyle ise akü bozulmaz mı. Çünkü akü hızlı şarj olunca bozulur . Veya akünün kapasitesine göre amperi kendisi düşürür mü.
Not sure on this one, I have seen some of the NOCO GB series jump starters do this when they are ready to jump start a battery but not on a GENIUS line charger.
The GENPRO10X1 charger is a completely sealed version of the GENIUS10 for marine use. The GENPRO series will not have the supply mode that the GENIUS10 series has.
We use repair mode for batteries that are having issues maintaining a fully charged state (voltage drop with no draw), low CCA output, or capacity loss. I will typically engage the repair mode on a battery experiencing one of the above after completing a charge cycle on the charger. The repair mode will work on desulfation of the battery.
great review.. maybe the product i need.. can i leave it charging my car battery overnyt on a -40 weather? im having a problems with my car starting it in the morning…
Unfortunately not, the operating temperature for this unit is -4F. The lowest operating threshold for a charger that we are knowledgeable on is the CTEK MUS 4.3 Polar model which can operate in -22F. www.techbatterysolutions.com/ctek-mus-4-3-polar-battery-charger-56-958/
A nice review. How do you get the 12V repair function to work? I switch to it and it just blinks red. I’m trying to figure out how to get it to solid red/activate.
The blinking red is what you're looking for, the light will continue to blink red throughout the whole repair process. Once it's completed you will get the solid green LED on the charger.
@@HighTechBatterySolutionsInc how do you know if your battery needs the repair mode if you can get the car to start with the charging mode only with one or two red lights across the bars and it has not reached the green light yet? When I select the Repair mode it just flashes red.
@@cheryllinford443 We recommend using the repair mode if the battery is not performing as it should, or if it's been left in a discharged state for longer than 30 days. If you accidentally drain your battery and its not been left in a discharged state for 30+ days then we recommend hitting it with the standard charge mode.
Hi, i need a good affordable and portable battery charger for my ford escape 2014. My battery is completely dead and cant find someone to charge at the moment. I need one that can withstand all weather. Thank you !
It's based on the voltage of the battery. Once the battery is fully charged then the charger will monitor the voltage and charge as needed. From the manual: "After the battery is fully charged, the charger will continue monitoring the battery, and provide ongoing maintenance and optimization. The 100% Charge LED will pulse “on” and “off” slowly during these cycles. The charger can be left connected to the battery indefinitely."
The charger itself does not have a battery in it, and will not be able to retain a charge. In order for this charger to function it needs to be plugged into a wall outlet. I just want to be clear that this is not a jump starter -
If you are asking how to determine if the battery you are trying to charge is fully charged, just wait for the single solid Green LED to light. If it is lit but pulsing on and off, just wait and leave everything alone. Some batteries can take a couple of days to reach full charge. (Solid Greed LED lit and not blinking) Car batteries need care. They need to be kept charged or damage occurs.
A follow on, as I am using it now on some old agm's: When will you know when charging is completed? I've had one on my noco10 for about 5 hours and the green light just keeps pulsing slowly. When it switches to maintenance mode, does the color ribbon do something differently, essentially telling you when best effort charging is completed?
My battery is totally flat. I connected this charger and it was slowly pulsing on red the first bar, then about 5 minutes later it went all the way to green and that started pulsing. Not sure why as the car battery is totally flat so not sure why it’s saying it’s almost full?
When I have seen this in our shop it either means the battery itself has an issue such as a weak cell, or the battery heavily sulfated. You will probably see that green light blinking for a long time before going solid. I recommend either getting the battery tested or putting the charger into repair mode to see if that helps.
Great video- thank you for the information. Couple of questions: Can this be connected to two 12V AGM batteries connected in parallel arrangement? If so, do you connect to the + terminal on one batter and - on the other?
Yes, you can connect this charger to a pair of 12V batteries wired un in parallel without an issue. You can place the charger clamps on the posts of the very first battery. You would split the clamps between the two batteries if they were wired up in series, no need to do this in parallel as the charge will flow from the first to the second without an issue.
One of the best reviews of genius 10.. This actually explains nicely each mode and how to select it & what exactly each mode does.. Very nice for a novice home owner, who wants an all round general purpose battery charger (kids car +my car).
Thank you.
This video is far easier to follow and understand that the tiny manual that comes with the charger. Thanks.
Good review. Note this: some batteries, depending on the capacity and condition, will take up to 48 hours in the maintenance mode, to fully reach 100%. The single green LED will pulse until the DC voltage reaches 15.5 DC. (FACT CHECK THAT) Then the LED will turn solid Green. This is not stated in the directions, but NOCO tech support will "school" you if you are having trouble. I recharged up a standard 585 CCA lead acid battery. It took around 36 hours before the Green light turned solid. To convert the CCA to Ah, multiply the CCA rating by .7 (.725 to be precise.) I have used NOCO products for a few years now. This Genius 10 is a fine unit.
Yeah I was wondering about how long it takes even with a 10amp charger it take forever I had disconnected before full charge since I tought it be done is 24 hrs but apparently I was wrong
Thank you. I was wondering about that pulsing green if it was done.
NinJazz Rhythm my 70 amp battery took 4 full days to charge until I got a solid green
Thank you for this note. This was very helpful. I thought something might be wrong when after a day the green light has not yet turned solid.
Yeah thanks I was totally wondering about that too! Must be like it really has to slow down from bulking the battery but then it like takes a long time to force that last little bit slowly!
I watched this video and bought the Genius10 charger from High-Tech Battery Solutions.
Received it early today and it's being used right now. Everything has worked perfectly, so far.
The video made understanding and using the charger much easier.
Your review was a touch above the rest as you went into the faults and explanation in a clear instructions and nice to see the buttons marked out and a quick and professional explanation on the faults that you may come across. Thanks
I think you meant it is the ‘successor’ to the G7200 series as opposed to the ‘predecessor’, but otherwise a good review of this product.
Finally a detailed review that was greatly explained in laymen terms. Thank you for the video.
Man, I really appreciate this review. The user manual is very vague and quite useless and I've had trouble figuring the charger out - then I found this. Thank You!
Thanks for the video. They should hire you to write their manuals! The manual as written really falls short and your video was great.
You are the best and most comprehensive review of this charger. I gotta buy one.
Predecesor or Successor?
Successor
Good catch.
exceptional review - concise and to the point - keep it up
Thank you for sharing! I just purchased one and received it in the mail today.
At the beginning of the video, you said the Genius 10 is the predecessor of the 7200 series. I think you meant the opposite. The 7200 series is the predecessor to the Genius 10 series.
Yup, a few people have pointed this out!
Very good video. Very informative and clearly explained. One thing you could add is the different ways the 4 charging lights(red red orange and green) behave in different scenarios relating to the charging process. I’ve noticed with the batteries I’ve been charging over the last few days that the solid green is really the only one that signifies that a battery is actually fully charged, would this be correct?
Yes that is correct, the solid green LED will indicate your at 100% state of charge.
The Genius 10 is *not* the 'predecessor' to the Genius 7200-it is the 'successor' to the G7200.
Just bought one and the connectors on the charging leads won’t connect together. NOCO says send it back to the supplier or take pictures of the connector and send to them. Either way it’s unusable, so be prepared to purchase one with something defective and having to send it back. Don’t expect to buy it and then use it, unless you’re willing to splice the wires and void your warranty. What else might go wrong with this product along with bad connectors ?
How do you get into repair mode?
Thank you appreciate your detailed review. I got one of these from a friend without instructions
What does the genius10 have over the genius5 apart from higher amps and 12v supply mode?
Which to get ??
5 vs 10 amp
I ended up just buying the 5, it works ok. Haven’t tried the 10
Best review so far. Thank you sir
Is it every necessary to use repair mode on a 12v AGM battery? If so, should you use it every so often as a maintenance tool?
You know, when to turn the self facing mode on whether it's dead or churged. What does it mean when you have a green and red light flashing back-and-forth?
When do you decide to use repair mode? Wait until the battery gives you problems?
Here at the shop we only use the repair mode if there's a problem with the battery. If a customer brings in a battery that was left sitting discharged for a period of time, if a battery is having trouble retaining voltage, or if we see a reduced capacity in a battery that doesn't match up with its age and use.
Feeling good, I received my today and is awesome 😊😊
I just bought one of these as I have a deeply discharged battery and I wanted a charger with the force mode. To begin with however I just wanted to charge a standard 12v car battery. When I plugged it in I expected a steady progression through the charge level indicators from one red block through to the full bar (two reds, an orange and a green). What actually happens is the first red blinks for a while, then the first goes solid and the second blinks a coup,e of times then it goes down to no lights then, after a while it goes up to the Amber for one pulse then back to nothing. It doesn’t seem to progress through the bars but seems to be going up and back down? Is it charging? Is the battery OK? Why don’t the instructions tell you what to expect and what the changing lights mean?
Leave it connected, it sounds like you have an issue with your battery - possibly that it's not retaining the charge. The charger will error out if the battery is not recoverable.
Very clear and concise overview.
Do you need to have pligged into DC power when charging or do you charge the device and use it without the connection?
This device needs to be plugged into AC power in order to function. It does not have an internal battery.
Great job very thorough and to the point. Great job
Does the green charge full light stay green when it’s full charged or does it blink green???
The green light on the charger will still fully lit, when its blinking the battery is at a 95% charge level or better - the charger will taper down its output to get the battery to a 100% charge level.
Can you do.a.video how to use the supply mode pls ?
Great video, thanks for sharing!
Great review, what is your opinion on Pulsetech PowerPulse passive desulfators?
The pros of this new model year are every all car and bike battery types chargeable, the cons is the NOCO connectors is very hot the result is charging voltage is lower than described for example the charging voltage for AMG battery is only 14.1 Volts lower than 14.7 Volts as described. This is the event that I had monitored to charging voltage graph . I had replaced the connectors with Anderson power pole connectors and charging cables with the thicker cables.
What setting do I use to use the device as a trickle charger to maintain 12 V in my battery?
You would select the charger setting that matched the chemistry of the battery you're trying to charge. Once the battery is fully charged then the unit will kick over into its maintenance mode automatically.
No one talks about the AC connection and people who know nothing need to know how long you keep it plugged into the AC outlet, how often you charge it if you don't use it and how you tell it is holding a charge and ready to use? Thanks for any schooling on this so I understand.
Just to confirm, there is no internal battery in this unit - its a straight battery charger that must be plugged into an AC outlet in order to charge a battery.
Is this charger good enough for two 6V parallel 12v RV set up when the RV is not in use?
Yes, this charger will not have an issue maintaining those batteries.
Perfect for what I needed. Thanks
and when do you know your device is fully charged and ready for usage
Can I use this to jump start in a road without plug power into a wall?
Unfortunately not, this unit is strictly a battery charger and must be plugged into a wall outlet in order to function.
There's just not very many videos. Unlike the default fading modes, how the green lights really work. How long does it really take? How much voltage is really going into the battery?
Is it okay to keep the software in the battery if it's Not working keep doing it over and over again
Does the NOCO GENIUS 10 needs to be plugged in to a power source to charge or repair a dead battery ?
Yes, the NOCO GENIUS10 unit needs to be plugged into an AC outlet in order to charger or repair any battery. The unit does not have an internal battery and relies on AC to power it.
Hi, thanks for the video. Why don’t these new chargers show on the NOCO website?
We honestly don't know when they will put these new units up on their site
@@HighTechBatterySolutionsInc And here's all 4 of their new Genius series.
It also includes some estimated charging time charts based on different size batteries at 50% discharge.
So I have a question for you and probably have more after I get my charger.
Unfortunately I have the Genius5 on the way (5amp) only to find out the boat I bought has a 114 AH deep cycle 12 v which could handle the Genius10 you reviewed and would have cut my recharging time in half. Bummer!
Oh well...
So do I charge the deep cycle 12 v battery in the "normal" 12 volt mode?
Thanks!
I don't think they've been on their website very long.
Here ya go>
no.co/products/charging/multipurpose
@@dandettmann595 If your batteries are flooded then yes you will be charging on the 12V normal mode. If your running sealed AGM series in there then you're going to be using the AGM mode.
How long it takes to charge the battery... Can you use this unit to charge your jumping start like GB70 Unite...
One thing about noco charger products loke the g10 is if you live in the northern cold and it stays in the cold, the cables get extremely bridle and break very easy. I've had one break like that, and it broke right where the cables come out of the body. So just be careful if they are cold. Have a good day.
What should My noco genius 10 read on my multimeter when charging a 12 v lithium battery
Great review! Thanks for sharing.
What happens if my battery stands for 8 amps, does this charger adapts to the battery to supply 8 amps? Battery is earthx ETX18F with bms integrated system
Are you sure that this is an 8AH battery? based on that part number I believe it should be an 18AH unit.
My charger cycles up to green all charging led's still flash including green sits there for about 5 seconds and then starts over . Is this normal or do i have a defective charger.? Thank you.. After an hour passed it is no longer cycling. 3 solid bars and green pulsing only. I know believe the intial period may have been some kind of maintanance mode t but i didnt initiate it. Might be an important thing to include in the manual lol.
Do you have another battery that you can try the charger on to see if you can replicate the problem? I have seen this once before and it was an actual battery issue, but if the same thing happens on another battery you know is good (like your everyday driver) then its time to start looking at the charger.
What mode should i use for a marine deep cycle battery?
You will want to select the charging mode that corresponds with the chemistry of the battery, so if its a flooded choose the standard 12V mode
If your battery needs to be repaired will it automatically detect this and do it for you or will you have to select it? And if you’re unsure if you put a perfectly fine battery on repair mode will it damage it the battery?
The charger will detect sulfation during its regular charge mode and begin the repair process as part of the algorithm. I always caution people to not overuse the repair mode. Due to the higher charging voltages used in that mode, it could shorten the life span of AGM batteries if used excessively.
@@HighTechBatterySolutionsInc thanks for the response
@@HighTechBatterySolutionsInc wouldn’t this become an issue if the battery is still in your car while in repair mode?
I have an Interlock Device in my car and it drains my battery. I bought this Noco and charge my car 3-4 times a week. However, I needed a jump today as my battery was at 8.9v
Any suggestions would be so appreciated!
I would recommend getting the battery tested ASAP to eliminate the battery as being the issue first and foremost. If the battery is testing good, then I would suggest contacting the company that installed the interlock to see why the drain is so high. We have seen this a few times, sometimes customers are able to take the vehicle back in to get an adjustment made to the interlock to either draw less, or not draw at all until the key is engaged.
Does this maintainer shut off when maintaining a battery stored attached to vehicle when battery doesn't need more tricle charge
Hi there, a quick question. If the battery in my car is drained, will I be able to connect the Noco Genius10 and have it charge the battery back to full, then start up my car? I mean without taking the battery out of the car? Or would that work at all?
The pictures in the manual suggest when it's at full charge, the first 3 orange lights are off. Is that correct? Also, as soon as it hits full charge, it'll probably go into maintenance mode right away. I don't think we'll ever see the solid green at all.
I've been charging my 12V 60Ah car battery since last night and 12+ hours later, I'm looking at 3 solid orange and pulsing green. Just hoping this is the expected behavior and it's in maintenance mode.
Let the charger continue through its charging process - you will see the solid green when it's done. When the light is solid green then it hit its maintenance mode and charge as needed.
My son give me the Noco Genius 10. I have a 2019 Camaro SS. Planning to store it for the winter months, at least three to four months. How do I use this charger to keep my battery charged? Great video, by the way.
Did you end up getting this charger just wondering because I have a 2016 SS Camaro that I store for the Winter I had a CTech charger but it burned up so I'm looking in to one of these noco's
this went right over my head...so, quick question. I opened the box, plugged it in for three days. Nothing changed on the lights to indicate it was full. I suppose I'm old school. I need to put a charge on my car that has been sitting for a few months...someone told me to put it on a slow charge for a few days to get it back working as the battery is only a yr old. Help please....
Did you hit the mode button to engage the charger?
Excellent review. Well done!
Haven’t made my purchase yet. Perhaps it’s clear to everyone but me but I have a question related to the Genius 10. When charging a 12 V battery do I always have to select “repair” mode when I start charging (or does routine charging begin after simply selecting “type” of battery)? Is “repair” mode ONLY selected when reconditioning a battery is necessary?
You would only select repair mode if you know the battery is sulfated. When you're going to charge a 12V battery you would start by selecting the proper battery type - you do not have to select repair mode to begin charging any battery.
What does a green light mean that pulsates off and on slowly?
That means the battery is at the 90% charge level and is being trickle charged up to the 100% state of charge level.
Its hard to tell, but can I use this to jump start my old Maxima 2000 car battery? Its completely dead and hasnt run in a few weeks. I just need to get it to the point where I can move it to another location within a 100 yards
You cant jump start a car with 10 amps
when you mgetnthe battery pack out of the box do you have to charge it
Thanks for all the explanations. Can repair mode be used on an AGM battery? I keep getting Battery Not Hold Charge error. Should I try the Repair mode? Thx.
If you keep getting the No Hold Charge error then you have nothing to lose by trying the repair mode. If it errors out in the repair mode then your looking at more than just capacity loss as an issue with the battery. I always recommend the repair mode be used only necessary with AGM series batteries. The reason being is that the repair mode can cause gassing in the battery and as you know with a sealed AGM series - you can't replace that lost water.
Fantastic review.
great video..thanks
Does it have to be plugged in an outlet to charge a battery or work?
Yes, the NOCO GENIUS10 charger does need to be plugged in to function. Keep in mind that this is an AC powered battery charger - its not a jump starter and does not have an internal battery.
I can't get my noco 10 to start charging all it does is LED shuffle back and forth then goes to power light. I just bought it used one time and done as it should but now it's not what am I doing wrong
So how do you know when it's done repairing the battery. I threw a good battery in repair mode supposedly but all it does is beep red forever. Charged it and it charged pretty but I don't know how to know when repair mode is complete or done proper.
It should be blinking - thats a sign the repair mode is engaged. It takes about 4 hours to complete and once its done the charger will return to standby mode.
Is it safe for car electronics and for the unit itself, to leave it ON in a charging mode while working on a car(ignition ON engine OFF type scenario during reprograming or troubleshooting electrical issue) thank you for review.
This is a perfect time to use the dedicated supply mode of the charger - its designed specifically for this scenario.
what setting do I use as a battery MAINTAINER?
All of the standard charge modes have the maintenance mode built into them - as soon as the battery is fully charged then the unit will automatically act as a battery maintainer.
I ve been using the 3500 to trickle. The marine battery I have is just over 1 year old and used twice. I got lazy with the trickle maintenance and now the 3500 has that triangle yellow exclamation point when I try to use it. Would this one you demo help this battery situation?
Does the charger need to be charged when you receive it. How long for a full charge. Thank you.
Just to confirm there is no internal battery in the GENIUS10 unit - this battery charger must be plugged into a wall outlet in order to charge a battery.
Hi,I’ve just used this device to recharge a new deep cycle marine battery, which I bought a couple of months ago, but haven’t yet put into use. Is it to be expected that it would have run down to less than 25% charged in that time, and how could I tell if I needed to employ the repair mode?Thank you.
Deep cycle batteries will lose a % of their charge every day when sitting idle, so depending on how long it sat it's certainly possible. Since the battery is so new I would not worry about using the repair mode. This is for batteries that are on the older side and heavily sulfated.
Thanks for the review 👍
In the detail description of charger it states that it can charge deep cycle battery,
What setting should I use for charging deep cycle battery ?
For deep-cycle batteries, you will not have to select a special setting other than the correct battery chemistry mode.
Can this be used for 2022 Porsche Targa for maintenance of its battery
I plugged the battery into the wall out let, but it seems it's not charging, am i doing something wrong here?
Just to confirm, the NOCO GENIUS10 is not a jump starter with an internal battery - this unit is strictly an AC powered battery charger.
Yeah man, you know your product, awesome awesome review!
Hi thanks for the video could you tell me do I have to disconnect the battery to use repair mode
Good question, I'm not 100% sure on this so I would recommend only using the manual repair mode on batteries that are disconnected from the vehicle. The problem is a lot of the newer cars have computer systems built in that I would assume could be affected by high voltage spikes - better to play it safe than sorry.
Before plugging in the A.C. plug, put on the battery clamps. Then plug in the A.C. Put the unit into the Repair mode. The red LED will flash on and off. for around 4 hours and then the unit automatically switches out of the Repair mode. However, if the battery is too badly damaged, the Repair mode will end early. Not all batteries can be "Repaired".
I'm charging my car battery (12V, Lead/Acid) with the NOCO Genius 10. The Charge LED's (25% & 50%) blink red then go solid, then the 75% blinks orange, but then, usually, it goes back down to the 25% and starts over again. Once it did go to the 100 LED, turned green, but then again went back to the 25%. Is this normal when charging?
Thats not normal, I have seen this happen to us when attempting to charge batteries that were either to far gone and not able to retain a charge or from batteries that had a constant drain on them while charging. Either way I think its worth taking the battery into a shop to get tested to see whats going on.
Nice review. What voltage does the charger allow the battery to drop to before it kicks in and starts charging again? I had mine get my battery up to about 14V and when I checked on it a couple of weeks later it had dropped to 12.5(ish)V and the green light was solid, indicating full charge still. I switched the charger off and on again and it started the charging process and had the battery back up to 13V in a few minutes. Is there an issue? Battery only a few months old. Thanks.
I ran your question by NOCO, here is their official response: It sounds like the battery may not be holding a good resting voltage, and the charger may be timing out.
The maintenance trickle charge should start when the voltage drops below 12.7V, and the LED should be pulsing green. If the battery is not holding a good resting voltage, the charger will timeout and stop applying the charge to prevent overcharging the battery. If the voltage drops below 12.4V the charger will start the full charge over.
Thanks for getting back to me - I’ll double check the voltages during the same situation again to see if I can pin point any issues.
so the what's the difference between all these noco geniuses? they charge faster the higher number it is?
Yes, the higher the number the higher the charge rate. You also get access to more charger features such as supply / repair mode the higher up the chain you move.
Thanks for the informative review, do you happen to know what the output is in supply mode? I.e would be suitable for when reflashing/coding ecu's? Thanks.
The output for the supply mode is listed as: 13.6V @ 25°C | 10A | Max 12A. I have never tried reflashing with this charger
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My charger is alternating the battery level lights its go 25% > 50% > 75% > 100% then do it over again any ideas on why?
Not sure on this one, I have seen some of the NOCO GB series jump starters do this when they are ready to jump start a battery but not on a GENIUS line charger.
what is the difference between the genpro 10 and the genius 10 ?
The GENPRO10X1 charger is a completely sealed version of the GENIUS10 for marine use. The GENPRO series will not have the supply mode that the GENIUS10 series has.
How do you know when to enter the repair mode? Do you try this when nothing else works? Is this where you do the battery desulfation at?
We use repair mode for batteries that are having issues maintaining a fully charged state (voltage drop with no draw), low CCA output, or capacity loss. I will typically engage the repair mode on a battery experiencing one of the above after completing a charge cycle on the charger. The repair mode will work on desulfation of the battery.
great review.. maybe the product i need..
can i leave it charging my car battery overnyt on a -40 weather? im having a problems with my car starting it in the morning…
Unfortunately not, the operating temperature for this unit is -4F. The lowest operating threshold for a charger that we are knowledgeable on is the CTEK MUS 4.3 Polar model which can operate in -22F. www.techbatterysolutions.com/ctek-mus-4-3-polar-battery-charger-56-958/
Confusing..do u need to hook it up with AC to charge this?
Its an AC powered battery charger, there is no internal battery - it must be plugged into the wall to function.
A nice review. How do you get the 12V repair function to work? I switch to it and it just blinks red. I’m trying to figure out how to get it to solid red/activate.
The blinking red is what you're looking for, the light will continue to blink red throughout the whole repair process. Once it's completed you will get the solid green LED on the charger.
This is the same question I had! The manual said solid red everything else I saw said solid red and mine is just flashing.
@@HighTechBatterySolutionsInc how do you know if your battery needs the repair mode if you can get the car to start with the charging mode only with one or two red lights across the bars and it has not reached the green light yet? When I select the Repair mode it just flashes red.
@@cheryllinford443 We recommend using the repair mode if the battery is not performing as it should, or if it's been left in a discharged state for longer than 30 days. If you accidentally drain your battery and its not been left in a discharged state for 30+ days then we recommend hitting it with the standard charge mode.
Will this unit function properly plugged into a Honda 1000 watt generator
as soon as my charger is plugged in the olny thing it does is all lights flash all the time does nothing else?
Well thats a first for us. Is the charger connected to a battery while it's flashing?
Great video man,thanks
Just tell me how to get my Transit running ..?
Hi, i need a good affordable and portable battery charger for my ford escape 2014. My battery is completely dead and cant find someone to charge at the moment. I need one that can withstand all weather. Thank you !
How does float mode work? Or float charging?
It's based on the voltage of the battery. Once the battery is fully charged then the charger will monitor the voltage and charge as needed. From the manual: "After the battery is fully charged, the charger will continue monitoring the battery, and provide ongoing maintenance and optimization. The 100% Charge LED will pulse “on” and “off” slowly during these cycles. The charger can be left connected to the battery indefinitely."
Does this only bring up the surface charge
No, this charger is designed to fully charge a battery up to 100%.
I just bought this, I have in plugged into a wall outlet. How do I know if this charger if fully charged?
The charger itself does not have a battery in it, and will not be able to retain a charge. In order for this charger to function it needs to be plugged into a wall outlet. I just want to be clear that this is not a jump starter -
If you are asking how to determine if the battery you are trying to charge is fully charged, just wait for the single solid Green LED to light. If it is lit but pulsing on and off, just wait and leave everything alone. Some batteries can take a couple of days to reach full charge. (Solid Greed LED lit and not blinking) Car batteries need care. They need to be kept charged or damage occurs.
@@charlesmcgehee3227 You answered my question. Thank you.
Great review, I just got one and wanted to know if you charge your 12v battery and just leave it hooked up does it then work as a trickle charger ??
Yes, once the charger has brought the battery up to fully charged it will then go into its maintenance mode automatically.
A follow on, as I am using it now on some old agm's: When will you know when charging is completed? I've had one on my noco10 for about 5 hours and the green light just keeps pulsing slowly. When it switches to maintenance mode, does the color ribbon do something differently, essentially telling you when best effort charging is completed?
My battery is totally flat. I connected this charger and it was slowly pulsing on red the first bar, then about 5 minutes later it went all the way to green and that started pulsing. Not sure why as the car battery is totally flat so not sure why it’s saying it’s almost full?
When I have seen this in our shop it either means the battery itself has an issue such as a weak cell, or the battery heavily sulfated. You will probably see that green light blinking for a long time before going solid. I recommend either getting the battery tested or putting the charger into repair mode to see if that helps.
Great video- thank you for the information. Couple of questions: Can this be connected to two 12V AGM batteries connected in parallel arrangement? If so, do you connect to the + terminal on one batter and - on the other?
Yes, you can connect this charger to a pair of 12V batteries wired un in parallel without an issue. You can place the charger clamps on the posts of the very first battery. You would split the clamps between the two batteries if they were wired up in series, no need to do this in parallel as the charge will flow from the first to the second without an issue.