Good question! What has become known as a "Knee Drop" is generally regarded as the attacker going to both knees when doing a throw. An "Otoshi" dropping movement is generally done when the attacker drops to one knee or extends his leg in a way similar to Tai Otoshi.
I wonder if a good level of squat style seoi nage is required to learn the drop knee Seoi nage?? Or maybe It's ok to learn squat and drop knee style Seoi nage at the same time??
Actually, they are two different approaches. Both work so experiment on the mat to see which works best for you. I would not work on them at the same time. Analyze and work on each separately.
Hi Scott. The corkscrew tip applies to standard seoi nage as well? I haven't tried it yet, but i kinda think that's the way to do it. May you share your opinion on it? Thanks!
some say the first step level should be the same as the level after your turn. There's also saying that after you turn, when hip facing the front, you drop lower then bounce. While your corkscrew bit seems to put everything in place. it's easier to keep the balance and squart lower more easliy. Basically are the three pointers actually talking about the same thing?
By using this corkscrew method, you are not attempting to squat but rather to spin under your opponent and as you do, the momentum created by the turning of your body under his center of balance forces him to be thrown forward over you. In reality, you don't want to keep your balance and squat or land straight down on your knees while under him-instead you want to spin or corkscrew while under him. Hope this helps. We have several other videos on knee drop throws on our channel, so check them as well.
welcomematstevescott I will start trying it. Because by going over I'm not stopping the rotation for hip toss throws an such as effective. I'll keep working seems ya gotta expose one thing to prevent another gotta keep them guessing and go back an forth between the two ways.
I've been doing it this way for 50 years as have my athletes in all levels of competition from local to international tournaments and none of us have ever suffered a toe injury, knee injury or any type of injury.
Japanese Judo the kids aren't allowed to drop knee. For Japanese adults one knee is the way but as we say in Japan sometimes you have to drop with 2 knees to get low. Good video
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Can't stop watching this, one of the best instruction on Seoi out there.
Thank you Taras!
Steve Scott is a wealth of knowledge in judo and grappling in general.
omg this is amazing, I really needed this
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Very Good!
Thank you!
awesome!!!!
Thank you!
is there a video where you explain the drop part in more detail? whatever i try i seem to still drop from too high.
Check our channel's playlist titled Knee Drops and Seoi Nage.
Hi, thanks for nice video. May I ask what is the difference between "Knee Drop Ippon Seoi Nage" and "Seoi Otoshi"?
Good question! What has become known as a "Knee Drop" is generally regarded as the attacker going to both knees when doing a throw. An "Otoshi" dropping movement is generally done when the attacker drops to one knee or extends his leg in a way similar to Tai Otoshi.
I wonder if a good level of squat style seoi nage is required to learn the drop knee Seoi nage?? Or maybe It's ok to learn squat and drop knee style Seoi nage at the same time??
Actually, they are two different approaches. Both work so experiment on the mat to see which works best for you. I would not work on them at the same time. Analyze and work on each separately.
Thank you so much😄😄
Hi Scott. The corkscrew tip applies to standard seoi nage as well? I haven't tried it yet, but i kinda think that's the way to do it. May you share your opinion on it? Thanks!
some say the first step level should be the same as the level after your turn. There's also saying that after you turn, when hip facing the front, you drop lower then bounce. While your corkscrew bit seems to put everything in place. it's easier to keep the balance and squart lower more easliy. Basically are the three pointers actually talking about the same thing?
The corkscrew applies to any form of Seoi Nage. We have some other videos on knee drop Seoi Nage using different grips on our channel.
By using this corkscrew method, you are not attempting to squat but rather to spin under your opponent and as you do, the momentum created by the turning of your body under his center of balance forces him to be thrown forward over you. In reality, you don't want to keep your balance and squat or land straight down on your knees while under him-instead you want to spin or corkscrew while under him. Hope this helps. We have several other videos on knee drop throws on our channel, so check them as well.
By grabbing under the arm I kept getting coller choked so I have learn to only go over the arm.
Control your opponent's shoulder more when grabbing his lapel.
welcomematstevescott I will start trying it. Because by going over I'm not stopping the rotation for hip toss throws an such as effective. I'll keep working seems ya gotta expose one thing to prevent another gotta keep them guessing and go back an forth between the two ways.
my problem that i do it slowly
The good thing is that you are doing it-keep working, you will improve on your speed.
Yo break your damn toes, if u drop like that
I've been doing it this way for 50 years as have my athletes in all levels of competition from local to international tournaments and none of us have ever suffered a toe injury, knee injury or any type of injury.
South korean judo doesnt teach like that and recommend dropping with your toes thanks
Japanese Judo the kids aren't allowed to drop knee. For Japanese adults one knee is the way but as we say in Japan sometimes you have to drop with 2 knees to get low. Good video