SCAMMED by A Local Chevy Dealer.
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2023
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Georgetown, In. 47122
A Chevy Dealer local to use sold a GMC Yukon XL. When it arrived we found suspicious items on and in the vehicle that were red flags of them selling it and having a customer return the vehicle. WE BUSTED THEM and got the ultimate revenge.
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Mike, I'm a small family used dealer. My vehicles I sell for $3900 or lower, I only drive them 10 or so miles plus extended time sitting at idle to check cooling system. The other vehicles, $5000 to $50,000,we drive a minimum of 50 miles. I have my employees take turns taking them home and errands. I can relate to the franchise stores getting over on the used dealers. Some of my worse mechanical purchases were from the big stores. ATB and keep pushing. People like you and I will change the way customers look at car salesmen. Honesty!
I love this!! More people like you in this industry will make it great.
Cause there buying trans from same company that makes them for other companies and are very cheap😢
In your video you mentioned explorers have transmission problems you know how to fix them. Could you share how you fix them. I bought a 2011 explorer from another dealer to sell. Drove it for 100 miles now the transmission is shifting strange.
Yukon-lifter problem???
I have been a car salesman for many many years . Always wheb I traded in car on another I drive with the car . I told my customers : I would be a bad salesman If I traded in your with problems . They always understood . And the other thing what always bothered me : People think that we try to scam every customer . We don’t want those people complain and warranty etc etc. We want happy customers , earn a few bucks and no complaints !
Mike as a used dealer you should know better that there is a reason why a franchise dealer is sending one of their vehicles to auction!
Transmission issues. I really wish we could still get a manual transmission in new vehicles. I’m not lazy I’ll drive a stick anywhere in any traffic. I know it’s not going out on me for the most part.
The father and son duo at Car Edge are discussing all sorts of dealer and automaker scams and issues these days.
Bubble market breeds fraud and deception.
A busy shop is a good shop. A busy mechanic is a good mechanic. Never take your vehicle to a shop that has mechanics waiting around for work.
Or, maybe those guys get their work done and out the door instead of making videos '-)
He buys a GM without looking at it, and he's surprised that he doesn't have a great experience? Hahahaha
When you trust somebody this shouldn’t happen, but these days dealers like the one he purchase the vehicle are as trusted as a ‘3 dollar bill’🤷🏽♂️
I like how you go the extra mile to make sure your cars are functioning properly. You obviously care about your customers and the reputation of your dealership.
Still don’t see the scam. It was acquired at the auction which means "as is," I believe.
@johnvenuti3245 Please inform me. I’m not a car business,an and don’t understand the whole matter.
Maybe figure it out before posting your nonsense@@tommoran236
IKR. "The car is burgundy and yesterday was Tuesday and the radio was on..." therefore...SCAMMED!!
There are different lanes at car auctions. Green lane, arbitration. Yellow lane, arbitration limits, red lane no arbitration "as is". More than likely this was ran thru green or yellow since its so new.
More deceptive than “scam”. Shady business either way. But it’s a dealer. I expect nothing less
I kicked that auction website to the curb for this exact reason. There is no way to do a thorough inspection without a road test. And they run the other way when you try to arbitrate them
You’ve been in the business long enough to know all the junk goes to the auctions.
You're a really solid and trustworthy guy ...i'd buy from you in a second .
You should check the vehicle out in person before buying any auction vehicle. Auctions are a good place to drop junk. The good vehicles are sold on the lot most of the time.
Transmission issue wouldn't have shown up on an inspection. Need to be able to drive it.
@vicarod he would have seen the temporary tags on the vehicle at the auction and gone from there.
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Good point. Very hard to only look at vehicles in person at auction and keep inventory numbers up.
People aren’t always available to check out cars across the country. There are independent services that you’ll pay to do that for you. Anyone can pull a Carfax on a car they’re interested in to get a better overall picture of the vehicle.
Why didn't he see the temp tag in the auction pictures?@@glenshepard6960
Rarely does any vehicle I have get to the lot before I have driven it 50 to 100+ miles.
I am confused on how you were scammed, and how you "made" the dealer take it back? You're around E-ville so it's likely it came thru Wolfe's. It's just another used truck and you've got an hour after the deal is made to drive it, if it was LG or R&D. Or the auction will do it for you. Personally I rarely trust anyone to do it for me. Regardless, after that hour it's yours barring title issues and a few other rare items. Been that way at every other auction I've used...so how are you making anyone take a truck back after you or yours missed problems?
Yeah...the 8 speed transmissions that they hurried up to put together and put in trucks because their 10 speed transmission wasn't ready yet is something people need to know about.
Dodge was told by ZF the 9-speed automatic transmission for testing was to be ready, but was not so ZF sent 6-speed for testing.
9-speed was ready year later to debut in 2015 Chrysler 200.
I have 2016 200 very good transmission.
The 8 and nine speeds have been a disaster since Introduction. Too many choices for the computer.
Mike I appreciate all the knowledge you share. Been watching since you worked at your former Chevrolet dealership.
An honest car dealer is like a unicorn. Very rare. Lon from Ohio...
Notice that most trans problems are associated with the increase of drive gears. Whether mechanical or hydraulic combination, the gears are not as strong as the 5spd's w/od. Even the GM work truck had problems with the 6L80 series
If you ever saw some of the trans parts, you'd keep rebuilding the ones using trans bands forever. I worked security in a parts plant; got to see some of the tiny parts and assemblies they made. I wouldn't use them in a golf cart, let alone in anything larger. One of the quality checks was to take a particular part, hold it off the work table a certain height, and drop it. If the parts didn't explode all over it was put together properly. Nothing like having springs shoot past me as I walked past that work table.
I love the content because it gives me a lift on what to look forward to and seeing how the game is with buying a car 🚘
People can take shots at Mr Chevy here, but I learn something I can use from every video. Thank you, Mr Dude!
Love your content Mike💪
Great content..thank you. Maybe a steady cam for your face shots....you're shaking all over my tv😂
My local dealership worked with me to unwind a deal, I will forever buy my cars from them. I understand this case was a scam but dealership truly wanted to help me out. Nothing wrong with the car I took back. There are good dealerships that work with people! Love your channel
Did you attend the auction in person or buy from the comfort of your office on computer, just curious. Going off condition reports is a real risk. It's a tough business
In this market a yukon with less than a 100000 miles from a new car dealer at auction is a big red flag
Many good comments about this video. It still amazes me how a company such as GM cannot engineer & build a quality transmission. It isn't rocket science.
Follow the money. GM IS A "FOR PROFIT CORP"....
profit!!!!!
And notice since taxpayers bailed them out several years back, that now they are a
LLC..... NOT an S or C corp!!!!!
Look it up!!!
That's because Manual transmissions are best and they are being added out...
Your first mistake was thinking any dealership is honest and ethical lol
Everything have transmission issue these day. Me, looking at my 4runner. Thank god i have an ancient suv.
In Mt Oliver Pittsburgh, there is an honest dealership, called Beckman Plymouth.
The only advertising Beckman does is the license plate frame on the back of the cars they sell.
Beckman Plymouth is not located on the main street Brownsville Rd, but in a back a street of Mt. Oliver.
One day I was talking to a man and I noticed that he had a Beckman license plate frame on his car.
I asked him about Beckman. He said that they were the best dealership in the area.
He said, "If you took your new Plymouth in for service. Beckman would do all the warranty work necessary, and recall work without asking " Beckman only serviced cars bought at Beckman.
Beckman lost its Plymouth dealership when Plymouth was shut down.
Beckman doesn't have a new car brand, now. Beckman is surviving as a Used Car dealership. I still see Beckman license frames on used cars Beckman sells.
Carfax? Autocheck? I believe their is a bulletin that you exchange the transmission fluid with different updated fluid 😮
That ford has the slowest trunk open close ever😂
Question: why can all this be corrected via manufacture warranty? Is it used and past the window?
Great job mike glad u caught on to that dealer trying to scam u and cost you thousands of dollars to get that yukon fixed and its sad that its bas lal the issues its got because that was a beautiful suv. Anyways i love how you go the extra mile to make sure that all the vehicle's you get or have is in good shape and if they need fixing you get en fixed and i onow that you care about your customers and everything. Anyway keep up the great work much love to ya man have a good one take care god bless and i will see ya on the next one see ya later
The dealer didn't try to scam anybody. The found a problem and sent it to the auction. It is up to the buyer to check it out before they buy it. The internet has made dealers lazy and expect other people to do their due diligence for them.
That's a seat belt cutter
What a shock, a dishonest dealership! Truthfully that is the norm. Just like the ages old up sell when you hit the finance Dept after your new car purchase.
The dealer sent the vehicle to auction where its sold as is to people that supposedly know what they ate doing . Then there is this idiot
Been reading about used car dealerships. Over 40% of vehicles have speedometers turned back.
Transmission issues, DOD worn cams/lifters, magna ride-When you see one, no matter what part of the country, run or be willing to roll the dice because it's a crazy gamble.
My Subaru laughs...and then needs it's diaper changed
Every dealer is un honest to customers nothing new.
Ain't that the truth???
Transmission "Life Time" fluid could be a factor
As an Indiana resident that’s a temp tag that you get from the bmv. So customer probably had it longer than 45 days
Another great video. Thank you. 👍 👍 👍
9:00 I like how you casually call it a Ford Exploder...ha ha ha! Thats what we called them in the 2000's after they had some rollover issues. It really wasn't an explosion thing though 🤣
So it’s not covered by warranty?
Enjoy all you’re videos you are a good person.
So, I am an auto tech, I have in my bay RIGHT NOW a Red 2017 GMC Yukon WITH A 6.2, iT HAD A 80K on the clock. I put a torque converter in it (yep pulled trans, NOTE; ITS AN 8L90 8 speed , NOT6L80 6 speed) and flushed out trans and cooler lines and put LOW VISCOSITY fluid (as recommended by GM) and the converter shudder is gone. GM put wrong fluid in it from the factory. If its a converter shudder, under 100k, a fluid change and converter will fix it. Negotiate.
Not all of the cars at the auction are junk but all of the junk cars are at the auction. So beware of what you buy.
Get'em Chevy Dude! Grrrrr
It's a great thing that you're doing Toys for tots. However why would I want to spend $20 for shipping when I can just bring it to my local toys for tots drop off.
Please do that! You don’t need to donate to use directly. With Amazon I have never paid for shipping.
if the buyer had purchased an extended warranty on this would it have paid to fix it ?
I know a lot of people who end up with transmission problems on today's cars by 80,000 miles. It is all part of government regulation where cars today have to be built lighter for fuel efficiency. I also know a couple of people who have driven several Suburbans from many generations, and they tell me they get a rebuild at 85,000 miles. They have reported the shops find stuff inside the transmission even though they thought the shifting was still normal.
Some of the epic trans problems were due to bad designs and cheap manufacturing. Like the GM THM200 ("Grenade Gearbox") because they tried converting a US measurement transmission to metric without understanding ALL the issues with trying to do it that way. Or Ford Taurus transmissions going back to at least 2001 (I owned a used one; 2nd time it needed trans work I junked it; failures common even below 80K).
It is not just todays cars. In the '90's I avoided cars with around 80,000 miles because I got a string of bad transmissions at 80K.
Black Hawk UH 60 I had a fly over real close the other day, Chevy dude! 🫡🤠
had a Esclade like that gm store did a trans flush and reprogram and its perfect now
You thought that a car dealership was honest and ethical? That was your first mistake.
There would be less issues if there were more manual transmissions.
You the man good catch.
Sounds like the issues I'm having with my 2021 Expedition Max Limited. Actually almost returned it to the used car dealer which was Echo Park. Decided to keep it and give it a try but the Tans and Suspension were bad. Gonna trade it soon hopefully. Going in for the 4th time in the 10k miles I've had it for the trans.
But what is to stop them from shipping it across the country.
I use to go to auctions. I know that you know more and have greater insight on these things. One thing that could be happening is, either new bidders or phone bidders and each has an off camera rep making the call. Then the bids start going so quickly and next thing you know someone’s saying, “hold on!!! I said yes to 27300 NOT 27600 pull that bid!!!” Then it gets retracted and at times it’s a domino effect! 🤷🏻♂️
Wow. You make videos that make you look good and fair and honest. Sounds like a car dealer. LOL.
How’s it feel to be on the other end now?
Great job Mike. I think your videos are getting better. Thanks
I’d really consider using your dealership to purchase my next vehicle. One problem, I live in Florida and would need it shipped and curious how the warranty would work. Do you get involved with Class A,B,C motorhomes?
Like always great advice 🙌🏽
That's my comment!!! Thanks Chevy Dude!!!
Hell yeah. It truly helped us. So thank you for making that comment. 🥰
@@ChevyDude You are so welcome sir! Glad to be of service. You know I love how they look, but the issues have given me endless headaches. Best of luck!!!
At least your were able to recover most of your loss from the selling dealer and avoid arbitration with the auction house.
2015 gmc yukons and chevy have bad transmission and engines. Do a video on the feel of the market at auctions right now plz
Torque converter shudder can be fixed with software. We use HP tuner
Wouldn't the transmission be under warranty?
Can you do a video on the explorer transmissions and how you fix them...
1. Take hand grenade. 2. Pull grenade pin. 3. Throw grenade at Explorer. 4. DUCK!! 5. Profit!
Which one? 6f35 or 6f50. 6f35 is found in the 4 cylinder turbos and 6f50 in the v6 ones. 6f50 is a solid trans. 6f35, torque converter goes and contaminates the trans. For both, change the fluid often with a drain and fill and use Mercon LV
My buddy bought one in August in Peoria IL and used it 8 days. That's it, he took it back and bought a truck across the street.
I bet I have a good idea which dealer you're talking about. I also live in S Indiana.
I put 381,000 miles on an '06 Mercury Grand Marquis. Still runs like new. Never had any problems with the transmission.
I am trying to program my new key fobs from tom's key but don't know how to get a qr code program. I am at a loss on how to program my Chevy Malibu (2019). What is a vin code, where do I plug t he adapter in. At 81 I need help and need to find some one to programm my new keyfobs. HELP, HELP
I still don’t get it? What was the problem with the trans?
that only leaves about 2-3 other Chevy dealerships in So. IN/Lou area and one has a worse rep than the others
Lol honest and ethical salesman
My 07 F-250 has a 4 speed automatic transmission. Never had a problem. The new ones have a 10 speed. Nothing but problems.
Nobody changes their transmission fluid. These newer 8 and 10 speed transmissions are finicky and less forgiving than older transmissions. You have to stay on top of fluid changes or you will have problems early on.
Yup. Friend has a 2019 Colorado with 50k. 8 speed had major torque converter shutter. I swapped out the fluid with the Mobil 1 hp fluid according to the Gm tsb and it’s much better
I would love to buy my future next car from you but I’m in Houston, Texas. Not sure if you ship?
We ship all over. We just shipped to McAllen, Tx so Houston won't be a problem.
I got really confused on why you would return the Ford "Exploder" 8:59 when everything was good and seeing it leave the lot a few seconds later. But, I guess that was the Yukon that was leaving the lot and not the Ford.
The Yukon went back, not the Explorer.
Are sellers required to disclose known problems? I’ve always assumed auction cars where there because they had issues.
Who can programm a new keyfob for 2019 chevy Malibu near Salem Mo. HELP I have no clue where to plug the adapter or what scannaing the "QR" code on my Iphone. I want to get my keyfobs programmed and needd help.
Cars are being sold at auction because they have issues
The new car prices keeping going up and the quality keeps going down.
If they are so slimy, why did they take the vehicle back from the previous buyer?
How many cars have you ever seen accepted back to the dealership?
There are red flags all over that car. Why would you buy it in the first place?
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. My 2016 Ford Explorer sport has never been to the shop for anything other than regular maintenance
I like those. Pretty torquey too.
Well he did say gmc Yukon not ford
@@Chalateco913 Well..... re-watch the video. When he sees the ford that he has, he mentions it. "These infamously have transmission issues" 🤔
I personally like the Explorer/Taurus platform. I get older/higher mileage ones though and do plenty of repairs.
My 2017 Explorer XLT has been flawless.
Only thing worse than Chevy dealers are the Chevy's themselves 😂
Hi, so I am in the process of getting a new car I have never purchased or owned a new car and I am very nervous about the dealership process. I was looking into getting a Toyota GR 86, The original plan was to go with a 2023 because of doing research and finding that these cars don't depreciate much over time for their value, that I was going to go with a new one just to get one with less miles and less worries of breaking down with a used one. Now I know it's always better to utilize better used cars when possible but again with the pricing being a couple thousand difference and these cars are getting more popular as of recent. But lets start from the top, I went to the dealership just to see what they had in their inventory for this car because of my area as well they aren't the easiest thing to find, and was told they do not have any on the lot so it would have to be held from the manufacture if I was really interested in the car. Because this has been my dream car for a few years now with of course of looking at similar cars like the BRZ and the FRS I still have come back to this car every time, I did the hold on the car from the dealer in November. We are now in February and I have just gotten a call from the dealership saying that they have a car to my liking but I was then informed that they are no longer making the 2023 model anymore because of the release of the 2024, Which is also not really a problem because of again the value not changing much even when it comes to the newer models either due to the fact the interior stays the exact same even from the 2019 models. But now my fear is that I will be up charged for a newer car just because of the year it was made and I wasn't made aware of the fact they were no longer making the 2023 when I did the hold until this month. So far the dealership has been very open to answering questions and helping when I have had issues with things due to my research I have been doing for months for this car. I have really been diving into how to get the best price for what I am getting but because the car is so new I don't really have a base line to go off of other then previous models and was wondering if you had any advise about maybe some questions I could ask or more information I could find so that when it comes time to talk numbers with the dealer I know my information that I am going in with? So far what I know is the car is a base model, which I stated I would like a premium mostly for the heated seats in winter which the base does not have, and I am a music lover so the base model I will get will also not come with the 2 extra speakers either. These are things I will be bringing up when it comes to the cost of the car. But another question I had was have you ever heard or a popularity charge? I had asked about it when we looked over brief numbers when I went to look into the car in the first place and I asked about this charge and the explanation given to me was as follows "That is just an extra charge because of how fast this car sales from our lot" or something close to that statement. I know this is something I probably should have put more thought into but at the time I wasn't aware of how dealers work and I am more informed currently, but I was also just wanting to see if you have any tips on that as well. Thank you!
I am coming to Louisville oct 17-21 for the equip expo, coming from vegas, i plan to stop by to stay hi if that is ok? Also plan to get a toy for toys for tots.
absolutely. Can't wait to meet you.
It is a really pretty SUV
Could you determine if the car ran over something causing all these issues
Or just poor GM quality
I don't buy cars from large dealer groups that would normally sell those trade in's. There is a Nissan/Hyundai store that sells their 2004-2012 trade ins that most other franchise stores would send to Mannheim or sell on Backlotcars. When those type of stores sell a 2015, I think to myself "why aren't they selling it themselves?". I just don't bother looking at em....
I bought an 2003 Toyota from a used car lot; the car still had a Carmax inventory sticker on the windshield. Carmax didn't want to lot anything that old. I've got a Nissan dealer just south of Chicago that apparently will sell anything; when I was looking they had some seriously old and damaged vehicles on the lot, must have thought they'd make a little profit on the trade-ins (2001 GMC Yukon SLE at $2,494 today).
@@markh.6687 franchise stores or throwing their "quality" out the door for profit. They used to care about the type of cars they sold and pit profit behind quality. Post COVID exposed their greed.
If they are scammers why not put them on blast? They should be taken out of business! Who knows if they are scamming their customers as well!
Ford "Exploder"? Why do you call it that? I have a 1999 Ford Explorer with 247,656 miles on it and apart from the driver seat needing 2X4s to keep it upright, it looks and runs great!
I believe that THIS GUY is the scammer.
Isn't it always a risk when you buy at auction? I thought auction pieces didn't come with any guarantees or warranties. You win some you lose some.
Well you thought wrong.
I'm a little confused. If there are transmissions/suspension/etc issues.. can't you just get them fixed via the manufacture's warranty? The last car i got, I made sure to ensure the manufacture's warranty was still good. I ran into problems and the dealership fixed everything even though I got the vehicle from 3rd party lot.
This vehicle is out of factory warranty
@@ChevyDude Ahhh.. ok, my bad. I wasn't listening closely enough. I thought you said that it had 80 miles on it, not 80,000.
@@chrismast2790 Thanks. I was confused too. This helps.
Whats the SCAM exactly? Does the Dealer claim that the vehicle is 100% perfect with zero issues? I would always be suspicious when a big dealer is wholesaling a vehicle that they would normally retail on there own lot. I get they don't normally retail older, higher mileage cars but in this case it looks like an ideal canidate for there lot yet they are wholesaling it, red flag for me. Anyway glad you're able to unwind your purchase and aren't stuck with huge repair costs and a potential loss.
So…..I didn’t see a single Nissan at that transmission shop 😏
If the owner of a transmission shop can afford a C8, yo know his prices are not low.