Xiaomi M365 Battery Issues - Diagnose And Repair
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2024
- In this video I’ll show you - how to diagnose and repair Xiaomi M365 electric scooter faulty battery.
Found bad BMS - replaced with new one.
Found 9 dead LG LGGBM261865 cells - replaced with Panasonic NCR18650PF
For this repair I used equipment and products:
Xiaomi M365 BMS - shorturl.at/awCF0
Panasonic NCR18650PF 18650 cells - goo.gl/S75c3s
Imax B6 AC v2 charger - shorturl.at/cQWX9
Malectrics spot welder - malectrics.eu/
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This video really helps a lot. My scoot recently stop working and I brought it to the service center. The service center informed me that my scooter's warranty is voided due to liquid damage and was charging me for control board and battery replacement costing at around 250usd which is too expensive. After watching this I tried to diagnose the parts by myself and It was just only a bms error. I just reset the bms and it works. Thank you for sharing your knowledge
You should name the specific service center and its location so they can have pride in the fact they are ripping people off. (Assuming you thoroughly tested the scooter and this was the only issue).
@@kevinsellsit5584 I bought my scoot at technigent in Makati. Hinatid ko sa technigent mismo ung scoot na pinick up Ng "service center" which is grimalkin corp. Located along Quezon city. I still have our conversation (with the Xiaomi representative) via Viber 😉
@@kevinsellsit5584 I bought my scooter at technigent in Makati Philippines. When it start to have problems I brought it to where I bought it and the service center pick it up which is grimalkin corp. Located in Quezon city Philippines.
@@amazingmotivation1344 same prob din po sakin, bought it from shopee and I contacted the seller, sabi po nila i ship to manila at ipa service center nila (cebu po ako). Nagbayad lang po ako ng 800 for battery reactivation fee. Akin na din po yung SF. Skl keke
@@kevinsellsit5584 qq
He makes it look so easy haha.
He has so much knowledge and soldering skills and spotweldding and more needed equipment.
Perfect video left nothing out. Extremely detailed and thorough explanation
Very high quality video. I really appreciate you speaking in English!
Yeah, he might have an accent but he's very easy to understand. :D
Matias Langaard You’re kidding he’s rubbish at English
@@kentcyclist What part of the video did you have trouble understanding?
Cult Watch then your literally deaf
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A very well made diagnostic video. Not many will put the time and effort into one. Thanks
If you really want to fix anything you really need to spend time money and effort. Otherwise...forget it. When it comes to get anything repaired nothing is easy.
This was the most informative video that I've found on the matter, thanks!
Great Video and Good explication about troubleshooting a faulty battery . You can get the rest off the cells unbalanced gest beacouse it’s impossible to perfectly match used cells with new cells . But you can grab out a good cell and make a discharge test and see how many mAh you can get and after that you can put new ones or used ones as close in capacity possible .
Good job on the spot welding, I was wondering if you would do that! It's difficult for me to suggest to anyone to attempt to solder these batteries. Too much heat is required and the solder is quite prone to mechanical failure. Really pro video. What would the final repair bill for a customer bringing this scooter in the shop??
He bought it.
Hi, thanks for the excellent video. Quick questions, what is your spot welder? Full details would be greatly appreciated.
Amazing video and tutorial. In case the voltage is good but battery won’t last long, does it mean batteries need to be changed? Thank you
This tutorial is very accurate 🥰 my battery same there is 3 dead , it needs to replace new battery ❤️ thanks for the video
Thanks, you helped me with that bsm modul reset button! Baterry showed on output 16v, but on the cells (before the bsm modul) showed 33v (discharged). I reseted the bsm modul and now flashing blue light and showin 33v on output. Many thanks
Best video so far from someone who understands battery technology
Shit, that looked easy, but I know is FAR FROM EASY IN 'REAL LIFE' 😂 you are a genius!
It's honestly not that hard you just have to be educated on lithium batteries
Not easy very hard for me better the bring service
Last time I got out of my depth was with a pioneer DJ nexus 2000.. If you are unsure bite the bullet and pay for a proper service by a qualified engineer..... better then being left with a 13 kg paperweight.. 🤬😱😱😱
Its very easy. You just have to use your brain. And smoke a bob Marley
You make an amazingly good video. Thank you. Hope to see more. 1 tip: your english is exceptional, but your accent is thick, maybe just slow down the speaking a little. I have a very similare issue with my ewheels scooter. When I get to trouble shooting it would it be possible to get some feed bcack from you directly?
Depending on how long the "bad" cells were totally discharged for it might be possible to recover them. I have had luck with using a lab bench power supply to bring them slowly up to around 2.9v and then using an intelligent charger set to 100mA to go to their storage charge voltage. By this point I'd strongly recommend if the cells do take charge at this point that you then sit them for a couple days and regularly test the cell voltage to ensure they are not internally shorted before then fully charging them at their rated charging current. These cells of course may not be quite as reliable as new cells due to the over-discharge but again, I have had super good luck recovering flat 18650 cells this way.
I have tried this but is seems that my imax charger refuses to start charging since it detects too low voltage... :(
@@PumpkinOnWheels yeah, you have to revive the battery with another battery or a DC power supply with set voltage of the battery. There are tutorials online on how to do it. ruclips.net/video/EuutXrOgFroh/видео.htmlttps://ruclips.net/video/EuutXrOgFro/видео.html here is one, but there are many more.
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@@PumpkinOnWheels that's exactly why you gotta use a bench PSU with limitations on current and voltage. Dead cells should be charged veeeeery slowly up to 3v.
Thank you for this great video. Where can I find a spot welder like yours?
Hi
Thanks for educating us. I have a scooter that looses charge quickly when climbing up the slopes. How to troubleshoot the problem?
I watched the full videos it’s good sir nice tips now I have the idea to fixed may scooter too
Wow, super many thanks. Mine I not charging properly. I think I need to check the cells
Just bought a solder gun this morning to fix a few lose solder joints on my battery, I sure hope it's just the top solder joints so I don't have to take it too far apart.
Danke für die sehr gute Hilfe bei meiner Roller-Reparatur 💪👍
Hi Sir, I am very impressed by your video. My starter does not work. My battery is full but it doesn’t start. Any recommendations are appreciated
Hi .. with my happened the same !! And the wheel it's not spinning well !!!
Check throttle signal or hall sensor in motor
Great video, no useless small talk.
Very well made video. In-depth. Highly informative. Thank you for this well thought video
Good video, thanks! One question: can I use the charging port to OUTPUT voltage from the battery? I want to use my scooter as a powerbank, outputting voltage to a buck converter.
Do you maybe know what would be the problem with my battery. It has 36V but the scooter does not turn on, it does not even beep. If I connect battery from other scooter, it works normally.
Nice video
Thank-you this video helpful, how to add on external battery without error code.
Doesn't the bms 7:08 balance all the cells? So why charge them individually? 😅 Nice video anyways so informative. I just need guidance because I'm doing the exact same thing, but I don't have the charger
Great video!!Can I find out more about replacing the rear cable?Does it need to be soldered? Or can you just change it?
most likely soldered
Great video. Wish I had your knowledge of BMS and 18650's. I fool around with small lighting projects, but maybe one day I will take the leap and try something like this repair.
Your video just helped me not have to spend 200 plus dollars on new battery
You are a very smart Guy... 10/10
Thanks for an excellent video, with good camera work and narration. I have to check out your channel.
Great video , could you tell me model of charger for this scooter , I purchased one recently cheap with no charger thank you
Nice video, very very useful indeed but.... Question: where did you buy your spot welder from? What make and model number is? and how much it cost please ? Tnx.
happy little scooter , very little . is it still running?
Hello my friend, you seemed very experienced so I would like to ask you if its possible to brake the batteries to individual cells without cutting every cell out of the plastic. I understand i will have to rip of the spot welds but looking at the plastic shell i believe there must be some mechanism to held in place the cage on each side? Would you know how to? What else would you suggest while doing so? Thanks in advance
Sorry if wasn't listing, but we're the LG cells the same capacity, great video aswell, very inspiring to people to fix there own packs!
ADSlammer they certainly should be
This is one of the best quality videos i've come across on this matter, thank you very much for the detailed explanations !
عمل رائع وجميل انته عبقري 😍👍
Nice video. Please, I live in a city where there are limited number of people who render this service (electric scooter repair.). I would love to learn how to repair. I already have an idea on how to change tyres. what are the tools i need to get. like a complete kit.
please, a guide and suggestions would be highly appreciated. thank you.
Good afternoon, I have a question for you and I think you are the best one to ask. I don't have the battery pack myself so I can't inspect it. Could you please tell me what would be the best way to dismantle the whole package and I mean the plastic holder so it all goes apart. Apart of removing the nickel tabs what's woul be next step? How does it hold together? Thank you for your answer ahead.
you, my friend, are the man !
You shouldn't wear a ring when playing with battery packs!
it would be neat if you could just 3D print a casing for the battery such that you didn't need to spot weld the cells themselves, and have all of them on springs. I know things out there exist but from what i've seen they're impractical for retrofitting at best.
Cool. What are the cell types in this? Apologies if its covered in the video I must have missed. Are they good cells?
Hi. May i know what tools did you use to open the battery cover? I just use my allen wrench and it ruins the screw. Please help thanks what is this screwdriver you use? Thank you
Thank you 🙏 man... I thought my controller was bad and I ordered another one only to discover your video
Thks.
When you change some dead cells after about 3 000 km... Which is the comon time, how much extra km do you get.
After those extra km, do you recommand to dispose completzly the battery EOL.
Pretty sure you should be building rockets rather than scooters.
Use side/edge clippers to remove the plastic tabs much more control and safer.
Can I ask you if the 18650 cells are protected or the shorter unprotected cells?
Hi! Could you recommend a video on replacing the m365 side lines. I hit a nail and one got mangled.
Very useful information. Great thanks
thanks for the video
which kind of spot welder machine are you using ? it seems very efficient....
sorry i didn't read all your complete description..... thanks..
Renaud Bay I use the same spot welder and it works great! I highly recommend it!
Great video. Thank you for the information. It was most helpful.
I have 2 packs showing 1.6V instead of the 3.6V I have on the other packs, do you think I can use that imax charger to try to get those 2 packs back to the normal voltage?
Simply you are a genius
Amazing tutorial. Thank you!
Thank you for enlightning video - keep up good work!
How do you know that cells are bad? BMS was bad and was draining batteries. BMS changed, batteries could be in working order, or did you missed some tests in video?
Hi there , nice video … I had an issue with my battery I think is the BMS , if u check the voltage coming through the BMS connector it’s just giving me 3.4v … if I check the battery directly it give mes 37.8v and if I check the cells all the cells give me 3.7v …. The led on BMS is dead .. it only give me 3 red flashes and 1 long red flash when i try to reset or connect to the charger … any idea ?
Well done 👏
Covered every aspect i need
Subscribed
Would it of been easier to replace the battery pack? I’m not the best with all this technical stuff.
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Amazing video. You are a Pro for sure.
This would be so nice,if this was realistic to do for me or any mechanic in my area.
Nice video! I have a question, on the new BMS did you solder back the Z fuses?
there are fuses in the new bms
@@TheBaregel thanks for the reply! Because I didn't see them in the video!
@@TheodoreAdemis they looks different on the fake one. but there are 2 fuses as well
@@TheBaregel ok thanks I will check it out...
I wish someone with your knowledge would do a video about overclocking m365 ant it's effect on the battery
Just drains battery faster. The main problem with overclocking the power would be burning mosfets on the circuit board and the bridge.
RUclips: m365 mosfets
Excellent. Thank you very much.
thanks so much fot this video. My scooter will not turn on unless i have the DC power adaptor plugged in. in this case, when it does turn on it shows full charge. so then i unplugg the dc adaptor and the scooter turns off straight away as soon as i use throttle and load is applied to scooter. can you help with any clues on whats wrong with it ? thanks you.
Leaking battery cell, probably caused water damage
Thank you from bottom of my hart it realy helped
Is there a sealing on a battery compartment cover? I'm driving it under rain, wondering if I should do additional sealing ouside..
It's sealed in plastic so will be fine in puddles , but don't submerge it obviously, if you're worried go check the screws to make sure they're all still tight👍🏽
Do you know what size tool you need to take the battery cover off?
My cover broke it snapped after I took it off my brother ran it over with his car where can I buy a new one ?
Nice, please make the video for external battery mod!
Hi great video thanks, I have a ? I have a 365 replica pro and it turns on fine & full battery etc but when I push the throttle it beeps & I get error 53 code any ideas please. Also should the light beep red on the computer next to the battery? Thanks in advance
Hey cool video. I wonder if you could help?
I'm building a DIY electric scooter using the parts from a m365 I ordered online.
The parts I have (new):
Battery
Controller
Display (pro)
Throttle
Wheel/motor
I can't seem to have any joy getting them to work together. I get power to display but no power to throttle or wheel.
I'm getting the error code 21.
Do I need to link my battery up with my controller and if see how?
Do I just need to press the DMS reset button?
Thanks for your time
Russ
great video thank you. Where can I find those nickle strips ?
brico or gamma!
Just plugg in the charger it worked for me
@Well done Tips , I like the video, thank you for the value : )
I will glad to get advice from you .
I'm going to take flights with my Scooter often . I'm planning to separate the battery from the scooter and carry it on with me in a bag , and the E scooter I'm planning to check it .
Did you take a flight successfully with Xiaomi M365 ?
How was it ? did It go smooth ?
If not yet , Did people you know that made it successfully ?
From experience please
The known TSA Statements are that :
2 Lithium batteries are permitted.
Lithium batteries from 0 -100 watt-hours are allowed.
from 100 - 160 wh may be allowed with airline approval, only in carry-on bags .
and from 160 + wh batteries are not allowed at all.
I read new TSA information that :
" One spare Lithium battery, not exceeding 300 watt hours, or two spare batteries, not exceeding 160 watt hours each, are permitted in carry-on bags. "
:) If that's true, the problem is solved as the Xiaomi is 280 wh !! : )
So I'm asking what is the best way to flight with the Xiaomi M365 ? just simply separate the battery ? to divide the battery to 2 so that every battery will be 140 wh and get the airline approval ?
Thank you very much for your Reference brother !
Wish you the best
Are the screws to access the battery compartment Torx T10 or something else? Thank you
The screws for the bottom battery cover plate are indeed Torx T10. Cheers.
Hi, if I need to replace 12 cells, do I need to disconnect the BMS? or I can just remove the faulty cells, replace with the new once, and charge them to balanced 4,2v?
Thanks, great vid btw!
disconnect first.
thank you rely help my scooter thank you
Very informative
What kind of screwdriver do u use for take off the stage
Ciao ti volevo chiedere un tuo parere visto che mi si è allagato il garage dove c'era anche il mio m365 e non parte più. Secondo te cosa potrebbe essere? centralina o batteria da sostituire? ti ringrazio
Hello there. Your batteries' amperage is 10a. Can I put a higher amperage battery for the pro 2 instead of 10a? 3.7v.
Молодец. Все подробно разжевал. И бмс нашёл. Круто! Жалко что не на родном языке)))
can we replace entire battery set with one or two big size maintenance free batteries? the one which is used in motorcycles.
Great tutorial, expert touch
Thanks for that all fine now ,
Thanks for the video. Very helpful and well explained. Subscribbed 🤗
Recently bought a dead m365 and I'm only measuring 2.7V on the main connector... Safe to assume I got some loose connectors in there
Amazing work bro.
Did the charger work after this process or not as I've had the same problems but I've tested cells ok found faulty bms changed this scooter now powers up and works but does not charge 😑
Awesome diagnosing work! 👏
good video about the m365 scooter, thank you
hey there fellow techy! I found myself doing some repair work on a m365 in a tire change and when done i power on scooter to find the throttle now gives a little reverse spin in braking. QUESTION is how to fix this problem of throttle breaking?
please and thank you
good job mate. kudos.
Great repair video but a bit overkill, you might as well just get a new battery than mess around with a new BMS, replaced cells, external chargers, if doing 1-2 repairs its not even worth all the tools, just buy a new scooter lol.
For battery issues I usually replace the entire battery pack before replacing part by part.