I’m Not Moving to LA // EP 15 - Pretty Lonesome
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- Опубликовано: 14 янв 2024
- This week, Madeline has had a change of heart about moving to LA and wonders if a caravan would be a more peaceful way to spend her youth.
She discusses her struggle with self respect and toxic cycles, and questions why she feels obligated to be on a journey of constant self improvement.
The episode takes an unexpected turn when she recounts a significant encounter with an Instagram critic that led to personal growth. Follow and connect with all things @PrettyLonesome across Instagram, TikTok, and RUclips.
I'm officially in a one-sided romantic relationship with this girl considering the amount of time I've spent watching her videos not even listening to what she says but just watching her speak because she's just too pretty
Same😭😭
one sided *romantic* relationship just sounds creepy tbh
@@user-np8yf8fj2w It‘s long distance anyway
@@user-np8yf8fj2w pretty sure the meant a parasocial relationship
but shes so smart
I'm Japanese and it's my second day studying English. I couldn't hear what you were saying at all, but I understood that you were beautiful.
Me too... i'm learning English,i 'am argentinian
I’ve generally never listened to someone speak that thinks so similar to me just the way she jumps from different topics and her opinions on everything is exactly the same as me and it’s nice not to see someone similar when u feel out of place in “normal” society x
I’ve been super obsessed with the 16 personalities for yearssss it’s so interesting and I found diving into it really self-affirming too! One thing I will say tho, as an INFP that has typed also in the past as ENFP and INFJ, is that your core personality does not change. What is most likely happening, and this has been the case for me too, is that in your 20s your type mixes with some of your more background traits, because as you mature your personality starts to balance out a bit. This goes into the cognitive functions, which is a major rabbit hole 😂😭 but is really interesting and helped me figure out for sure what my personality type was and how to use it to my advantage. Bare it in mind, no one is 100% introverted, intuitive, etc… your personality type will affirm your ‘core characteristics’ but it will be naturally balanced out by the opposite over time with your personality type’s unique blend of cognitive functions. Just see it as having an ESTP baby (the opposite of your personality type) living in your subconscious and it slowly maturing and coming to the forefront to joint forces with your INFJ driver 😂😭 This is also why the tests are more of a ball park and not 100% accurate and results can change quite often. I will also say that not one personality type guarantees being good at having a job, etc… 😂 as an INFP I was always jealous of ‘J’ types for being more ‘organised’, etc… and felt like that meant I wasn’t a good worker, but finding my type allowed me to realise my strengths that and it was really self-empowering knowing how I work and I’ve never looked back (and nowadays I feel like I work really well after some trial and error😄). I hope I’ve explained it all okay 😂😭
Also omg I just realised during this podcast how much you look like Billie Eilish :ooo
Yay, a fellow rabbit hole explorer!
Personally I see way more Ne & Fi in Madeline than any evidence of INFJ. I’m INFJ myself btw
Honestly I was thinking the same thing! I just felt that I was not familiar enough with INFJs to rule it out but yeah for sure I see INFP in her as one myself :ooo
madeline you put into sepcific words everything that goes so fast in my head or in my life that I did not catch it myself. It's amazing. love your videos
literally cant explain how much you make me feel seen and understood. i can relate to so much stuff that you say on your podcast, i finally can stop bullying myself and just realize that i’m not the only person who thinks this way. most likely because i have adhd.
anyway madeline you have my heart
i didn’t think i’d be digging up my childhood memories at this hour but you talking about camping threw me into a memory spiral to the point i couldn’t even hear what you were saying 🎉
Personality types don’t change, just levels of self awareness (which affects how accurately your test responses reflect how you actually are), and which cognitive functions you develop over time.
I got INTJ on the official test when I was 16, and since then, I’ve gotten INTP, ENFP, and now only consistently INFJ.
Also, not all tests are created equal. Most of the mainstream online MBTI stuff are only based on the dichotomies (like Thinking vs Feeling) and not cognitive functions, which are the true inner workings of the system. I’d recommend taking the Michael Caloz MBTI test, as it’s pretty informative on the cognitive functions.
Anyway, I’m pretty sure you’re ENFP, not INFP. At least based on your way of expressing yourself, the Extroverted Intuition function is pretty prominent. Keep in mind that cognitive extroversion has nothing to do with social extroversion, it’s just based on the orientation of the dominant function in your cognitive stack. ENFPs tend to feel pretty socially introverted, and conversely, tons of introverts might be pretty outgoing.
Regardless, you totally vibe xNFP not xNFJ. ENFP and INFP have the same cognitive functions in a diff order; but INFJ have completely different stack.
I disagree with that commenter’s reasoning, although the advice was spot on. Si is the inferior function for ENFP, so his conclusions about routines still stand.
Being changed by your social surroundings is just a universal human trait, it’s not specific to one personality type. That’s what they call the law of averages, right? You’re the average of the 5 people closest to you, so choose your company wisely.
Also, the INFJ’s cognitive functions are the same as the ENFP’s unconscious “shadow” functions (5-8 in the stack), so it’s entirely possible that an unhealthy ENFP would vibe or even test more INFJ
I also believe she could be ENFP! The advice of “mundane routines” to keep balance really may gravitate to madeline because it’s very ENFP relevant. They’re rather eccentric and have trouble sticking to routines seeing as routines don’t stimulate deep feelings or they take away time from reaching/understanding a “bigger picture ”. I also believe these types, like Madeline experience burn out more than other types because they’re always pursuing ideas due to their overactive mind. I also find these types may see “stable” as boring because they’re so existential LMAO. As far as feelings they’re rather logical and philosophical although coming off a bit aloof. ENFP types could be prone to taking on other people’s ideologies as their own. But only after reviewing it threw their own minds lens for the sake of learning and deciding it may be a new revelation. This increases possibility that they change personality types overtime. This however isn’t out of malice it’s only because their minds are ALWAYS looking for the connection between things and ideas.
@@kayy592 indeed. Btw is the 592 in your name your enneagram tritype? lol
the being nostalgic about bad things is so real omg i literally find my self thinking about HORRIBLE moments of my life and being like ahh i want to go back soo bad. like?????its so weird
Madeline I want to tell you how much I love you and you mean everything to me! I remember years ago I found you and you were always in the back of my head and I would wonder what you were doing and most of my devices broke so I had to restart with finding you again and I can honestly say you're still everything to me and I wish I've could've met you , everything you have said in every one of your videos I really feel you on a soul level. Hearing you speak brings me peace and always have, you're just so lovely in every way Madeline ❤❤😊😢xoxo
Thanks for the update maddy
Much as I'd love to claim you for the US, I'm glad you're not moving to LA. Hope you enjoy your trip though. You're right about childhood memories--sometimes the things we hated so much become our most cherished memories.
Okay I also hated caravan holidays at the time but have now convinced myself I loved it and am desperate to go on a caravan holiday! I’d probably still hate it, but nostalgia can be very misleading. Haggerston castle was my fave - anxious the elephant was the mascot.
Have a great time in LA! 🙃
I read that super long, strangely insightful comment about infj because I actually watched it lol. I took that test years ago & now I want to take it again to see if it changed. Looking forward to the caravan podcast.
This episode spoke to my soul. I’m going to do some research on INJFJ because literally everything you said is me, and I feel so validated. I’m like giddy because I feel like a understand myself better.
This dropped at a time I needed it
This is a perfect time of the morning to watch your super beauty on this amazing video that I am sure that I will enjoy it so much 🤗
the rant beginning around 22:00 is SO ME
The first 14 minutes of this podcast have sent me spiraling and I think I desperately need to get a therapist. We are far too much alike and it's frightening me
No way I used to be INFJ and now I'm INFP, this is epic 😎
Inf’s are often diagnosed with autism
Personality types don’t change. You can get different results on tests just because you gain self awareness or develop certain functions so you have a broader and more holistic view of yourself later on in life.
@@themischa yeah u right
Samee!!!
@@themischagood point u have to study the cognitive functions because the test is completely inaccurate and mistypes most people that take it.
not me hearing this newest episode and realizing omg we are so similarrrr. i’m working on this same thing in therapy. like why do self sabotage 😭
It makes so much sense that you wouldn’t like a caravan holiday but it also makes SO much sense that a caravan trip wld be heavenly for you.
Completely contradictory statements. But it makes perfect sense to me. (i say rent a converted van for the weekend, perhaps a vintage/retro style one- take yourself and bugs to the lakes for a weekend and see how you like it and if you would do it again - avoid the ADHD impulse purchase - I too have spent a deal of time looking up converted vans- thankfully I did not have the funds to carry that impulse through though- oh also remember cars/vans depreciate in value so not the best investment either.)
not to be annoying but i feel like astrology/ur birth chart is such a key to understanding yourself too, i was obsessed w sun sign astrology from 12 till like 18 when i discovered actual birth charts (timepasssages is the BEST bc it gives u a breakdown of each placement & aspect) n i've never gone back, i think seeing how different aspects n placements in my chart interact helped me understand myself sm more. not in the sense of oh i'm a horrible manipulative person bc i'm a cancer just in the sense of oh like this isn't well placed i need to be careful of reflecting the 'negative' traits of that thing.
it's more of a guide for me than a rulebook and its always cool to see astrologers observations or horoscopes (so to speak) n they actually resonate or come to fruition! also fyi never read ur sun sign for a horoscope always ur rising
yess this, people love to make fun of astrology but I genuinely feel like it does help you learn more about yourself
I used to be an infj but now am an infp and I can say that we share a lot of the same view points, and both are adhd girlies and sometimes when I watch you it can be like hearing a British version of myself haha.
Me too, I wonder if our adhd plays a role ? This is what I was thinking!
I love these videos.😢❤
I used to be an infj too back in middle school, but in high school i became infp and ever since i'm an infp.
Being an infp we r very self critical and i feel so much shame of myself for no good reason.
It's actually horrible because i let people dissrespect me, literally everyone has lost their respect for me cause i let it happen over and over again , and there are people who till this day blame me when it comes to breakups because i was the one to apologize and point out my flaws meanwhile they were in the wrong and i never called them out on the horrible things they did.
I am always the villain cause i don't want to hurt people by making them think they hurt me💀
INFPs need to develop Te to stop being doormats
I knew that you were an Infj!!!! Me too. I always wanted you to start a club for us infj”s 🥰🙏
I don’t know if you read comments Madeline, but can you please consider making merch for pretty lonsome? idk why but I really enjoy the simple logo for it (& the podcast ofc)
16:24 the way i kinda teared up at this exact moment cause i relate so bad
Thanks a lot for sharing.
Have a good Night.👏👏👏👍
I’m Korean so I know well, Mbti changes according to mood because we choose according to mood as we recognize the question
I feel like you’re more fit to infp tbh but also can shift between INFJ and infp because of adhd I am the same. The awkwardness and social anxiety is fitting for both of those types. Also INFJs are far more organised and routines in cleanliness and their environment where as infp are more like yourself kinda can leave it messy for a time or forget to tidy up or do practical things (also adhd symptoms) ❤ samesies infp here I have always thought you are infp since I started watching you! And I’m obsessed with researching mbti and getting people to take the personality test. Please get Oakley to do it
i love this episode
I'm an INFJ too, and have been consistently every time I take the test for many years. we're the same age and have a lot of the same struggles. Basically, we're too internal and need to do physical things to ground ourselves both in the forms of routine and hobbies. I also have ADHD lol! So doing things with your hands like even crocheting or, sounds weird but whittling, helps. Also, I'll be real self-respect comes from seeing yourself as a person who has to prioritize themself over other people. You almost see yourself as an idea; STOP. Also the empathy is very real and so save it for the right people.
also, READ!! I forgot how safe and healthy reading is to be a way. to retreat and recharge and find self through others in a. waythat isn't life-ruining
I read that comment!! I'm an INFJ too and I resonated with it way too much for my liking
23:02 omg, i relate so so much
this is my favourite thing ever :p
I got INFJ-A and am scared to take the test again and inevitably get something different, this will throw me off and hurt my personality
types don't change but you could think that you're infj before you were diagnosed with adhd and now that you're more self aware and you understand yourself better you can type yourself more accurately (I had a similar situation but went from enfp to intp)
True true - I think disorders kind of throw things off in MBTI
this, I thought myself a lot more extroverted than I actually was but found out I was really just masking and kinda was forcing myself to be more extraverted. really it was draining me so much lmao
@@shzhzjshhshd7994 exactly!!!!
also when you grew up with undiagnosed adhd, you kinda internalize the idea that everyone seem to "know things in life" except you, so you end up always thinking you might be wrong in everything you do. You end up constantly over analizing yourself because of that subconscious feeling
if you rent a car through TURO i believe you can rent one under 25 since youre renting a persons car and not from a company.
I love how pretty much everything you say resonate with me, but like poor us! Thank you Madeline
the way i immediately went to google personality test
Obviously this is two months old but you don't need to be 25 to rent a car. There's just an added fee. Usually around $20 per day. You can also use your own insurance if you already have a car. I will admit that I am a first time viewer but if you're not a US citizen it might be different but I don't think it is.
Where’s the vlog?
Oh!
man got them mixed up, we r literally the same person im not even joking everything u go thru mentally i relate AS FUCK
mirroring peoples emotions is literally Fe ( extroverted feeling )
while Fi ( introverted feeling ) is being intact with ur own feelings and not putting others in mind
i think u should read more about mbti because mbti types don’t change u only develop or downgrade
which then makes u a toxic or a healthy person
i am an entp and ive been so all my life because i fully know that mbti types cannot change
so us being so similar means we have similar cognitive functions
u would understand if u read about them
which i highly recommend doing so. typing urself might make u more organised and help u understand urself more
also might i add
yes u r an infj
infjs cognitive functions r Ni Fe ( the extroverted feeling function i literally wrote all this for ) Ti Se
if u search and understand each one im sure ur gonna realise ur auxiliary function is Fe
INFJ here, and I don’t think she’s INFJ. She vibes way more Ne (ENFP, I think) than anything (the way you say y’all literally the same person confirms this lol). I understand where you’re coming from, but we’re all affected by our social environment. The way INFJs mirror is very particular to leveraging this to facilitate the goals of their Ni. ENFPs can also mirror by virtue of Ne cycling through endless possibilities of what their Fi might latch onto in any particular setting. This is why using behavioral observation for personality typing is quite inconclusive. It’s less about what’s cognitively driving things internally than about what’s observable on the surface.
You keep me alive 0:12
Lol as soon as I watched the pod and found out that it was a Joke after your CLICK BATE, MADELINE
I was even relieved. I'm from the US and I'm begging you not to make such a mistake as moving to LA lmao
it would be cool a video of you telling funny or embarrassing stories from your childhood
Uh oh she's about to go off the grid! 😅
INFJ here, he was a real one :')
LMAO MADELINE I DID GET ANNOYED!! But I also didn’t watch the video because I was too sick to do anything😂😂
The first test that pops up on google (16 personalities) is not accurate. I believe you do have the 2nd cognitive function Ne (extroverted intuition) But I believe yours is in the 1st position making it dominant in your stack. Each time you have a dominant function you also have an inferior function that’s opposite to your main. So if Ne is your first Si is your last and Si (introverted sensing) could possibly be why you had a fear of sick. There’s a lot that goes into it and it’s deeper than you think! I’m excited for you :). Michael Caloz’s MBTI test is pretty accurate ❤
Yessss!! Preach! This is what I’ve been SAYING. Every single video I comment this girl is def an ENFP. Madeline is NeFi af
And +100000 to the Caloz test. I love that one - it really helped me dispel the misconceptions I had about certain functions. I fancied myself a Te user (there were a lot of environmental factors that made me value Te) but thanks to the helpful examples the test provided involving real-world scenarios, I was able to realize I’m absolutely Ti > Te.
Luv u 💕
Oh I thought you were moving to LA. I washed my sheets. I live in Australia.
I feel like we both just got read.. scary!
that car looks so nice
OMG WE ARE THE SAME INFP!!!!
Everyone on here saying your personality doesn't change. Meanwhile I've been doing the test since 2014 and I'm constantly being made aware of how I would've responded last year, but how I respond now because I have changed and do not relate to the old answers. I always get a different personality. Your personality does change.
It really doesn’t though :) I would recommend studying cognitive functions, loops, grips, the role of the shadow/unconscious , and so on. There are many explanations for why a type might act or respond differently under different circumstances. The key is to observe how things change between periods of turbulence vs stability, and pinpoint your blindspots and weaknesses - only then will you get a sense of what your type really is.
Any parent can attest to the fact that children exhibit certain intrinsic traits, and as they grow, they only become more and more of who they already were to begin with.
This suggests that there clearly is a core of personality, although it’s likely that it doesn’t become more cemented until your mid 20’s.
I've never been this early to anything, lol
Ah, No, “ No Humanoid Is A Mind Reader”, None of Them, Madeline❤
I knew u were not gonna move I’m in love with u
omg i used to be an infp but i took it again and now im infj… i wonder what that means
Maybe the man hasn’t seen all your podcast episodes but considering the amount of times you’ve mentioned being horrible at keeping up a routine and stuggling with management,those are kind of on opposite spectrums of an intj/infj or any “j” really, you’re definitely a “p”,i’d say somewhere along enfp or infp but definitely a feeling type and definitely perceiving,look into it! I recommend the sakinorva mbti/cognitive functions test!!
Mads have u sorted out ur apartment situation ? ❤️
You're much better off living in a European city where you can walk or bicycle everywhere. I suggest Nice, or Cannes where joie de vivre is an important way of life.
apparently your personality type rarely changes in you life, so theres a very good chance that you are still an INFJ, but the choices you make in like are different. also i realised that you are so hard on yourself and the things that have happened to you. i noticed that you always talk about what YOU could’ve done differently or what YOU did to make that happen, but if someone else is doing you dirty, that’s not on YOU. other peoples bad choices are not YOUR fault. you didn’t cause them. i know its really hard to get out of this mindset of blaming yourself for bad things that have happened to you.
We’re literally the same person oh my god
As an Infj and European whos lived in LA, I can say, not a great place for us energetically.
Only One : Well Held Zfort : Madeline : God❤
If I had a Mercedes I’d live in it too.
APB for all Aosakians?
5:10 I SAW THAT COMMENT it did exist
ENFP over here 😅
youve convinced me to do a personality type test and at the end it told me i had to pay for the answers like fck off im not going through all those questions in a free one now...
I use to get INFP and now I consistently get INFJ
Over 25 yrs to hire a car is standard in most countries
Noooo I was going to meet you there
:45 we did LISTEN😂 you just titled it “moving to LA” one day before you released the actual episode
99% of this is seems to berooted in adhd- I have adhd and have been researching and learning about the adhd brain for the past five years and there are so many adhd symptoms and so many things that branch from adhd that most people don't know about (even people with adhd) because the common societal beliefs of adhd have been rooted in misconceptions and over-simplifications that have lead people to downplay how paralyzing adhd can be- it is so multifaceted and can have an extreme influence on all of your thoughts, feelings, and actions in so many ways
Should probably watch this second, story wise you know
Most of us don't have time to hear you talk about growing up. You're not a licensed therapist. But I am interested in seeing what comes of Gen Z influencers as they age.
Lol then why do you comment on all her stuff
infp - t & inattentive adhd.
Crazy how much i relate to alot of this , where are you people in rl :'( ?! im such an outcast , ugly tho , so that doesnt help 🙃
It looks like LA is moving to Blackwater.
I'm a new tour guide.
And that's probably a good thing. All that sun tanning can cause lifelong effects on the skin.
if you really dont reply im not cool
thanks!
i do listen to you , when are moving to LA ?
Madeline: I did the mbti test.
The mbti community: She's one of us now. 😂
Infp gemini here 😊 I originally thought estj leo. Can see Fi Ne.
Haha don’t worry. You wouldn’t have to pay all 30,000. You pay for the damages past 1000 which would have to be a pretty big crash. A fender bender would cost you a couple a hundred per car. If the other person is at fault, you’re Gucci. But yeah, I forgot about the 26yo rule. That’s a bummer.
You swear most of us sit around here and listen to you yap 😅… where here for the pretty face and voice that makes a brotha 🥜.
girl he got u a carrrrrr
I only “listen” for 5min
Must have missed the comments of people calling you out for clickbait then. Prolly got some thumbs down for that one
Trick people to listen to you talk ...🤔... No need.. love the way you talk.😄
at turo u have to be 21 for car
Why don't you get a camper van if you like living in a car?
Wanna Game Of Roast Me And Make A Charcuterie Bored Out Of Me At one and the Same Time Chris?: Madeline.