@@MiloLinesGolf a few days ago I watched a video of yours where you mention that a baseball batter does not take the bat inside. And so on the range yesterday I did like baseballers do and tapped an imaginary plate both sides with the head of my club and then I took it back like a batter over my shoulder. And bam just like that I had the club in the correct position on top. This in turn allowed me to come from the inside with my left arm above my right, while at the same time being able to clear my left side. I'd never felt that dynamic in my swing before. It feels natural and athletic. But I think the real key is the left elbow facing the target, which allows for the correct takeaway and for the correct wrist hinge. From there it's go time.
I have watched from the 8:30 minute mark to the end of this video countless times. For me, a million dollar lesson. Fun to see Kevin throw the ball down to the ground after Blake's compliment. All I can imagine is Kevin thinking...damn, why didn't I work with Milo in the first place!
This is so good & why teaching is so tough. People want to do & not listen to understand. He got it, but teaching is difficult. I love when Milo says, no I WANT you to feel this, not what you think this is! So hard for teacher & student. Great process video!
Good stuff! I like when you describe “feels”. It really gets the point across. And you are right about not being able to play golf if you don’t drive it well. Drive for show putt for dough my A%#
The concept of letting the club stay back and behind was very foreign to me until I started watching your videos. I have a seemingly incurable straight pull and I'm hoping this concept (along with your other concepts) will allow me to rotate without pulling the ball. Ideally I'd like my stock shot to be a baby fade. Time will tell. Great stuff as always Milo, you're my go-to guy on RUclips now amongst a crowded field of instructors.
Going to watch this with interest as my 1st game after the lockdown( having hit 1000s of mid-irons in my garage) resulted in hitting pull draws on every iron/hybrid I hit over the 1st 6 holes! It is a shot Ive hardly ever hit b4!. My Driver on the other hand which I hadn't hit for 7 weeks (due to height of grg) was monster long and straight (for me 240 carry) and I could even hit a controlled draw! Golf doohhhh!
The other guy talking sounds like SVP! Lol, nice transformation getting him to feel his way with the swing change. Its amazing when we become confident in what we are doing and TENSION is released. Probably the #1 killer in the golf swing is TENSION. :)
I am so glad I found your channel. I’m an 8 handicap and you changed my swing and my accuracy is better and I’ve gained 15 yards on my irons.... you ROCK MY MAN!!!
This was fun to watch. The one comment I will leave is that you would make changes much faster and better (most of the time) if before trying to fix with drills or exaggerations or feels if you have them hit the shot in their mind.... most of the time they will also do it when they just imagine it, if that is there it shows that it is a less than volitional pattern and if we don’t address that first we will be working uphill and the changes may not be long-lasting. There are some easy strategies for removing the mental patterns instantly and then teaching the feels is much easier, because it’s not going on top of a faulty pattern. BTW I love the concept and your driver swing.... thing of beauty. Keep the videos coming! Thanks! Alan
I will say as a person who was a handsy arm swinger this is very hard to transition too. But all the right advice is here. Would be a dream to have one of these lessons lol
*9:50** - **10:07** That's it trust it TAKE ALL TENSION OUT NO HANDS in setting that shaft plane involved gives you repeatable control IRONY! And off you go lesson done at **14:33*
Milo can we change levels to much ? Or will pushing back into the ground help whip it through. At first I ran into hitting the ground but then I started using the ground and it’s great. I’m just worried it looks like I’m changing levels to much.
Heard Milo say when they put in the rotation part the day before, it was really bad. That one cut me deep. I need catchers equipment and a motorcycle helmet if I make contact at all, making changes. Then I tee the ball up on the first tee, right back square one!!
With this pivot technique i played a lot of pull hook or pull shots. So I suppose (I have no coach !!) that I do not shallow the club as it would do. If i understand well I should train to play push draw or push shots (avoidance stick behind the ball).? bruno
When i try to "take my hands out" of the driver or even irons i feel like i get mor of a pull shot. Im able to hit a cut/slice when i speed the hands up at least thats what it feels like. Am i way off on this?
I think I picked up in the video that you go to the top with no tension in your arms or wrists and you just turn to start the downswing. There is no feeling of swinging the arms. Am I correct? I have been working on the on line lesson you did for me. I will be back in March for another look.
The pull everyone is talking about is simple, at least in my mind. Look at 11:00 forward. It seems so simple why it is going left, you are swing with the arms instead of rotation. I figured this out in one minute. Think about it. The arms are outracing the body in a rotational swing? DUH! simple dimple
Sam Snead hit a pull draw, which is a powerful shot, especially into the wind. I watch videos of Snead and it's obvious he came over the top a bit, and the ball flight would draw. A pull draw is a good shot, if you are strong enough to control it.
Adam Martin Sneads feet were closed to the target line but his shoulders were not and took the club and his hands back inside on the Backswing and his hands returned on a wonderful path and the shaft was extremely shallow and the club approached the ball from inside the target line not from the outside. He was famous for low spinning high draws.
@@MiloLinesGolf Well I'm no swing analyst, but I do note his shoulders were square compared to his closed feet as you said. I do the exact same thing with my path being inside, and returning back on the same arc, which is correct in terms of natural arc. An intentional pull draw is useful imo for playing into soft fairways and into stiff wind, as well as the intentional pull, which is another story altogether. I don't think a pull draw is useful practically for hitting greens, but with driving it is a good shot to have. A low draw is also good in these situations. As I said I'm no swing analyst, I'm self taught, and just hit the ball with a shut or open face and change my path to suit. The game's easy once you know what to do.
Great lesson interaction. Sweet to see these pros catch on to your instruction! It seems like this out to in swing path draw stems from swinging the club head instead swinging the club handle...and the only way to swing the club handle on the right path is to have a pivot driven swing, not an arm driven swing with the intention to deliver the club head into the ball. With a pivot driven swing, there is that wait or delay of the arms as the body rotates correctly, whereas thinking of swinging the club head into the ball often disrupts this with the arms moving too soon and out of sync with the body. The same seems true with the opening of the chest. With a pivot driven swing, I assume you can open the chest as much as possible because it is happening at the right time, after the hip turn and after the slight arm delay. But, with too much of an arm swing, trying to open the chest more would probably make the pull even worse. Is this close to what you are teaching here? Thanks!
For the life of me I find this almost impossible to accomplish. After rewatching I wish he would move away from the ball just a tad align the ball on the toe of the club, but that’s just me. I know this might be tough but can you redo this type of lesson with shot tracer so we can see where the ball goes? Or is he hitting most bad shots with a low pull?
@@MiloLinesGolf I’m sure it will. Just played the best 18 of my life driving accuracy wise hit all but one fairway (slight draw under a tree) best part was it went 30 yards longer than my usual stuff. I attribute this in large part to Milo videos the baseball swing really gets me feeling the club dropping behind. Thank you Milo Lines you are my golfing instructor guru the Doctor!
I missed the names of the two tour pros....who were they? And, how did you work with Mike M for so long? It seems as if you promote a move he doesn't agree with..
Blake Cannon is the tall lefty. He is just one year out of college and worked with MM and Jim Hardy and just couldn’t make it work. Last summer I started working with him and he started winning everything on the mini tours and will be playing the PGA Tour Latino America as well as PGA Tour Canada. Kevin Giesbrect is his friend who has seen Blake’s recent success and this is our second session. Kevin will be playing the PGA Tour Canada.
Not a knock on Milo because he is posting some great stuff, but following the RUclips golf gods is getting soooo confusing: Malaska says tip it. Quinton says just rotate hips and release, do NOT turn shoulders. Milo says don't tip it, turn shoulders. I might take up tennis.
Listen to Milo and the laws of physics. There is no contradiction there. Also, this student is tipping the club “too much,” which they are focused on to correct. All Milo is saying is the club is tipping out so much it is always coming into impact on the outside of the ball, which is not good. There is always a happy medium.
It's kind of both. A guy like Jon Rahm lays it off early. Laying it off tips the shaft. A guy like brooks koepka looks like he's laying it off and flattening it, but at some point it will tip and get on top of the plane. Milo is actually telling you to do the same thing as malaska, but Milos is earlier in the swing, and Malaskas is later.
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Best swing coach on the tube.
You are too kind!
@@MiloLinesGolf a few days ago I watched a video of yours where you mention that a baseball batter does not take the bat inside. And so on the range yesterday I did like baseballers do and tapped an imaginary plate both sides with the head of my club and then I took it back like a batter over my shoulder. And bam just like that I had the club in the correct position on top. This in turn allowed me to come from the inside with my left arm above my right, while at the same time being able to clear my left side.
I'd never felt that dynamic in my swing before.
It feels natural and athletic.
But I think the real key is the left elbow facing the target, which allows for the correct takeaway and for the correct wrist hinge.
From there it's go time.
Once again, I’ve come back to this video. Thank you, Milo!
You welcome!
I have watched from the 8:30 minute mark to the end of this video countless times. For me, a million dollar lesson. Fun to see Kevin throw the ball down to the ground after Blake's compliment. All I can imagine is Kevin thinking...damn, why didn't I work with Milo in the first place!
This is so good & why teaching is so tough. People want to do & not listen to understand. He got it, but teaching is difficult. I love when Milo says, no I WANT you to feel this, not what you think this is! So hard for teacher & student. Great process video!
Thanks for watching Steve
This is the most informative video on pulling the golf ball from better players I’ve viewed.
Really helpful….. thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just came across your videos this week and I must say they are fantastic. Genuine understandable golf instruction....please keep them coming!
Hunter S I’m glad you find my content easy to understand. Keep watching and spread the word
Good stuff! I like when you describe “feels”. It really gets the point across. And you are right about not being able to play golf if you don’t drive it well. Drive for show putt for dough my A%#
It's a blend for sure, thanks for watching Jason!
This is EXACTLY what I’ve been working on.
The concept of letting the club stay back and behind was very foreign to me until I started watching your videos. I have a seemingly incurable straight pull and I'm hoping this concept (along with your other concepts) will allow me to rotate without pulling the ball. Ideally I'd like my stock shot to be a baby fade. Time will tell. Great stuff as always Milo, you're my go-to guy on RUclips now amongst a crowded field of instructors.
Here to help! Face angle could also be causing your pull, but would need to see.
Going to watch this with interest as my 1st game after the lockdown( having hit 1000s of mid-irons in my garage) resulted in hitting pull draws on every iron/hybrid I hit over the 1st 6 holes! It is a shot Ive hardly ever hit b4!. My Driver on the other hand which I hadn't hit for 7 weeks (due to height of grg) was monster long and straight (for me 240 carry) and I could even hit a controlled draw! Golf doohhhh!
The other guy talking sounds like SVP! Lol, nice transformation getting him to feel his way with the swing change. Its amazing when we become confident in what we are doing and TENSION is released. Probably the #1 killer in the golf swing is TENSION. :)
Top video love these lesson vlogs can learn so much👍
Wow, amazing - I wasn't able to see the ball flight but the results speak for themselves
I am so glad I found your channel. I’m an 8 handicap and you changed my swing and my accuracy is better and I’ve gained 15 yards on my irons.... you ROCK MY MAN!!!
Eric Freeman thanks keep it up
This was fun to watch. The one comment I will leave is that you would make changes much faster and better (most of the time) if before trying to fix with drills or exaggerations or feels if you have them hit the shot in their mind.... most of the time they will also do it when they just imagine it, if that is there it shows that it is a less than volitional pattern and if we don’t address that first we will be working uphill and the changes may not be long-lasting. There are some easy strategies for removing the mental patterns instantly and then teaching the feels is much easier, because it’s not going on top of a faulty pattern. BTW I love the concept and your driver swing.... thing of beauty. Keep the videos coming! Thanks! Alan
I will say as a person who was a handsy arm swinger this is very hard to transition too. But all the right advice is here. Would be a dream to have one of these lessons lol
You'll have to come out to AZ! or you could join our online academy at milolinesgolf.com
13:54 when that lady says “I haven’t had a beer in ten days” “maybe that’s your problem” haha
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*9:50** - **10:07** That's it trust it TAKE ALL TENSION OUT NO HANDS in setting that shaft plane involved gives you repeatable control IRONY! And off you go lesson done at **14:33*
How have I not seen this video until tonight? What touring pro is this?
Milo can we change levels to much ? Or will pushing back into the ground help whip it through. At first I ran into hitting the ground but then I started using the ground and it’s great. I’m just worried it looks like I’m changing levels to much.
Heard Milo say when they put in the rotation part the day before, it was really bad. That one cut me deep. I need catchers equipment and a motorcycle helmet if I make contact at all, making changes. Then I tee the ball up on the first tee, right back square one!!
Taking new motions to the course is a process.
With this pivot technique i played a lot of pull hook or pull shots. So I suppose (I have no coach !!) that I do not shallow the club as it would do.
If i understand well I should train to play push draw or push shots (avoidance stick behind the ball).?
bruno
When i try to "take my hands out" of the driver or even irons i feel like i get mor of a pull shot. Im able to hit a cut/slice when i speed the hands up at least thats what it feels like. Am i way off on this?
If he sits into the hip and rotates a bit more, it goes straight draw. Just did this yesterday
Love to hear it Eddie, thanks for watching!
I think I picked up in the video that you go to the top with no tension in your arms or wrists and you just turn to start the downswing. There is no feeling of swinging the arms. Am I correct? I have been working on the on line lesson you did for me. I will be back in March for another look.
James E Heck II pretty much.
If he’s coming at the ball from the outside, what would happen if he moved the ball further back in the stance?
I haven't watched the whole video but wouldn't the feel of pushing the handle away at p4 & p5 most likely help?
The pull everyone is talking about is simple, at least in my mind. Look at 11:00 forward. It seems so simple why it is going left, you are swing with the arms instead of rotation. I figured this out in one minute. Think about it. The arms are outracing the body in a rotational swing? DUH! simple dimple
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So the correct feel is let your arms and the club free fall while you rotate?
For Kevin that’s the feeling. The idea is to get the tension out so you’re not pulling the arms down.
Probably would be a good feel for me as well since I’m also coming from the other pattern and a little steep.
Sam Snead hit a pull draw, which is a powerful shot, especially into the wind. I watch videos of Snead and it's obvious he came over the top a bit, and the ball flight would draw. A pull draw is a good shot, if you are strong enough to control it.
Adam Martin Sneads feet were closed to the target line but his shoulders were not and took the club and his hands back inside on the Backswing and his hands returned on a wonderful path and the shaft was extremely shallow and the club approached the ball from inside the target line not from the outside. He was famous for low spinning high draws.
@@MiloLinesGolf Well I'm no swing analyst, but I do note his shoulders were square compared to his closed feet as you said. I do the exact same thing with my path being inside, and returning back on the same arc, which is correct in terms of natural arc. An intentional pull draw is useful imo for playing into soft fairways and into stiff wind, as well as the intentional pull, which is another story altogether. I don't think a pull draw is useful practically for hitting greens, but with driving it is a good shot to have. A low draw is also good in these situations.
As I said I'm no swing analyst, I'm self taught, and just hit the ball with a shut or open face and change my path to suit. The game's easy once you know what to do.
Many greats of the game have taken it inside then back on-plane.. Jones, Nelson, Snead, Lietzke, Daly and many more..
Great lesson interaction. Sweet to see these pros catch on to your instruction! It seems like this out to in swing path draw stems from swinging the club head instead swinging the club handle...and the only way to swing the club handle on the right path is to have a pivot driven swing, not an arm driven swing with the intention to deliver the club head into the ball. With a pivot driven swing, there is that wait or delay of the arms as the body rotates correctly, whereas thinking of swinging the club head into the ball often disrupts this with the arms moving too soon and out of sync with the body. The same seems true with the opening of the chest. With a pivot driven swing, I assume you can open the chest as much as possible because it is happening at the right time, after the hip turn and after the slight arm delay. But, with too much of an arm swing, trying to open the chest more would probably make the pull even worse. Is this close to what you are teaching here? Thanks!
Jim George your explanation is right on
@9:45 "Apparently it doesn't." LOL
For the life of me I find this almost impossible to accomplish. After rewatching I wish he would move away from the ball just a tad align the ball on the toe of the club, but that’s just me. I know this might be tough but can you redo this type of lesson with shot tracer so we can see where the ball goes? Or is he hitting most bad shots with a low pull?
It will come =)
@@MiloLinesGolf I’m sure it will. Just played the best 18 of my life driving accuracy wise hit all but one fairway (slight draw under a tree) best part was it went 30 yards longer than my usual stuff. I attribute this in large part to Milo videos the baseball swing really gets me feeling the club dropping behind. Thank you Milo Lines you are my golfing instructor guru the Doctor!
Yep, keep that chest moving a long the arc, works every time.
Good video BUT, what if, I'm already swinging with ZERO hands, still pull draw left, doing it like this.
I would have to see your swing to offer you the best feedback. You can book a lesson with me or join my online academy at milolinesgolf.com.
Do you know what driver he is hitting?
In the video he was hitting a Callaway rogue, But he Was getting better numbers and had more control with my old M3 so he took it
What was his handicap?
haha +6 probably for being a tour player
Good to see a lesson with advanced players. Would like to have seen the rehearsal moves, demonstrations, etc that happened off camera.
JD Stubbs Wish I had someone recording the whole thing
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This is Moe Norman stuff.
hands back everything open. Counter balancing forces.
I missed the names of the two tour pros....who were they?
And, how did you work with Mike M for so long? It seems as if you promote a move he doesn't agree with..
Blake Cannon is the tall lefty. He is just one year out of college and worked with MM and Jim Hardy and just couldn’t make it work. Last summer I started working with him and he started winning everything on the mini tours and will be playing the PGA Tour Latino America as well as PGA Tour Canada. Kevin Giesbrect is his friend who has seen Blake’s recent success and this is our second session. Kevin will be playing the PGA Tour Canada.
He is smashing the &$”@ out of the ball
Not a knock on Milo because he is posting some great stuff, but following the RUclips golf gods is getting soooo confusing: Malaska says tip it. Quinton says just rotate hips and release, do NOT turn shoulders. Milo says don't tip it, turn shoulders. I might take up tennis.
FatJack We’re all right depending on a bunch of different variables😂
I agree ha ha. So confusing.
Listen to Milo and the laws of physics. There is no contradiction there. Also, this student is tipping the club “too much,” which they are focused on to correct. All Milo is saying is the club is tipping out so much it is always coming into impact on the outside of the ball, which is not good. There is always a happy medium.
It's kind of both. A guy like Jon Rahm lays it off early. Laying it off tips the shaft. A guy like brooks koepka looks like he's laying it off and flattening it, but at some point it will tip and get on top of the plane. Milo is actually telling you to do the same thing as malaska, but Milos is earlier in the swing, and Malaskas is later.
Looks like he just closed his stance to hit those draws.
Brian ???
Why do you make the swing so hard and complicated?
why do you think he makes it complicated? lower body loading pattern, same as gankas
Who's the guy in the background giving conflicting advice
Not sure what you’re talking about
Wauw.... your mate think he is the teacher. It is impossible to have two teachers. Just listen to Milo
Golf is so easy! Just do this and don’t do that, match these together and make it feel like this! Killing bad habits is so frustrating!
Craig Bynog sure can be, but it’s satisfying when you get it done!
Golfletics, yes it’s definitely an incredible game and when you put in the work and it clicks - game time!