Steve Gadd needs no defense, but I will add my two cents to this discussion, having had the amazing opportunity to be at the Power Station the day they recorded this track (I was working as a video assistant for DCI.) When Steve arrived at the studio, someone said "How are you feeling, Steve?" and he said "Scared to death!" Everyone laughed, and of course he was sort of kidding, but a lot of the famous drummers who were asked to play a chart out of Buddy's book had a similar feeling about it. When you compare any of the Burnin' for Buddy tracks to the original recordings by Buddy Rich, you know immediately why - Buddy was and still is incomparable, and all those charts were written specifically for him and his unique style of playing. From a technical standpoint, there was a "sweet spot" for drums at the Power Station, where all the drummers set up to record their tracks, and the band was on the other side of the room, which wasn't ideal - there were some time problems with a lot of the drummers due to the distance between the drums and the band. During the practice take there were some time issues, but Gadd was so solid he pulled the whole band together and locked it in. He played Love For Sale like Steve Gadd, rather than trying to imitate Buddy. It was awesome to behold, and few drummers can drive a big band as well as Gadd.
Steve, thank you for sharing your story. High pressure, no doubt. I believe Neil recounted a similar remark but exclaimed 'but you are Steve Gadd'! I recall in Steve Gadd's ~95' interview how he want to have the feeling that the band is on fire when they are broken in on the road but it wasn't quite captured given the situation. Humble as Steve is, he sounded super grateful to have that opportunity and to play Love for Sale as a childhood dream. I also recall a Buddy interview, who could be brutally critical, named only Gadd as the 'new kid' that he was diggin' for drums lately (mid 70s I believe). Even though Buddy was a virtuoso, he seemed to always have an ear for musicians that could support a band. Steve plays with no ego and completely selflessly...I find it hard to be critical when I hear his intent. But again, everyone is human too.
I dont get how people are hating on him this much lol - This aint him (as you stated) trying to imitate Buddy, rather Gadd is playing Gadd. He has made the track his own so of course when people state "Buddy would burn him" or "Buddy Rich he aint", no he definitely isnt, but in the same way you could say that about any drummer playing a song Gadd played on, cause there is really no one like Gadd... He doesnt want his version to sound like Buddy's (no one professional drummer should want that) - he wants his own take on it, and I think he definitely got that... People saying he is "too tight" and "should loosen up" my humble opinion is that he cooks the track and makes it work :)
I just commented on another video of this DVD- I lived near Matt Sorum when I lived in LA, he said he same thing about these sessions about being scared to death (jokingly, but a hair of truth in there...)....these drummers are not trying to imitate Buddy- it's to hear how drummers of a later generation would interpret these charts- so any negative criticism is pointless....its a bummer they didnt get Colaiuta on this....i know they tried
This man seems to have just limitless technique and imagination. I love the "Bonham triplet" fills he throws in here and there just (seemingly) for the hell of it! Love it and love Gadd!
Nice to see Andy Fusco and Steve Marcus. Both gone now. Gadd is amongst the top few session drummers of all time and my personal favorite. But no one can play like Buddy. No matter how good a drummer is, it sounds wrong replacing Buddy Rich. I’ve seen all of the analysis of his playing, particularly left land. Give it up everyone. It can’t be done.
No could do Buddy better and no one could do Gadd better themselves. Gadd doing what he does beat sitting in the pocket, very unique time feel. Would love to have seen Tony Williams have a go at some of these tunes, that would have been amazing!
The fact that he's checking the chart as much as he does shows "hey I kinda know this arrangement of a standard". And he's just shredding it. One of my favorite albums growing up and its fun seeing the recordings up here now
Sometimes I read what some of the comments are , and Dang , there are some heavy critics on Steve's interpretation of this Song and arrangement . I just notice THIS about his take on that Tune . he has the Big picture in his heart and mind about it . The way he plays behind the 1st soloist , the alto. opens it up and let it pop while being a unit with the piano . same for the trumpet solo , for my ears just slightly different ,as it should be ! driving the bus while paying attention to all of it. then behind the Tenor barely accents just driving that baby safely home with backbeat on 4 in the second half of tenor solo and tight 4's on the Ride ,pushing and pushing the band . Brilliant . while adjusting headphone mix .
Every drummer should see this video... Gadd is the best for playing simple and musically... I love Dennis Chambers but Steve Gadd is an expert of music... No need to be fast, technical, just groove is enough and Steve is the best for that!
Interesting -- more "in the pocket" than Buddy, who drove it more on top of the beat. Nice job, but honestly, Buddy's take on this on Big Swing Face is so killer, it can't be topped.
Nelson Montana It wasn’t meant to be “topped”. All of these great drummers were gotten together by Neil Peart (RIP) for a project to pay homage to the great Buddy Rich. They all injected their own personalities into the recordings as it should be; no one was trying to outplay Buddy or do a note for note transcription. Drumming is not a competition
@@sharper9009 He didn't have to outplay him. Check out Gregg Bissonette. You can tell that Steve doesn't have the same love for the big band style. If he did, it would not have allowed him to take his approach. Gregg put in his own style but his love and decades of immersion helped him play, contextually, in the traditional style of the big band masters. Steve went somewhere else. We can call it "his approach" or "his personality" but I just say this - if he really really craved and loved that style, which I think was Gregg's favorite, he could NOT have plugged in this rendition here. It sounded weird.
These concerts and possibly the recording of this album were partly sponsored by manufacturers. In 1989 when the first Buddy Rich memorial concerts took place and were filmed, and later with the filming and recording of this studio session, Steve Gadd along with Weckle and Vinnie were Yamaha and Zildjian's biggest salesmen. They all switched from the Yamaha recording series to Maple Customs around the time of the filming of this studio session. I don't mean to be cynical as these guys are all amazing musicians, but part of their job was selling product and the the way in which they played sold drumsets , sticks and cymbals to the kids. The same for Omar Hakim, Bissonette, Chambers and Smitty Smith with Pearl and Steve Smith with Sonor. I agree, I would love to hear some of these drummers playing on vintage equipment sometime.
wish I could play as bad as Gadd??? everyone's a critic, Gadd has done it and delivered, just enjoy it people and remember that when you are playing your next gig to 10-15 people
Theres a reason for Gadd to be there, as well as guys like Tommy Igoe and Benny Greb, as next generation great drummers. The keyboard drummer warriors are usually in their bedrooms pointing the finger to history making musicians. I wish I could play at this level... I don't consider myself untalented, but I know my place :-)
Burnin' for Buddy is obviously highlighting drummers, but it's interesting to note the drummers that played best "with" the band. Gadd is easily top 3. My fave are Ed Shaughnessy, Steve Gadd, & Joe Morello simply because they didn't overplay & had that swing feel.
For those criticizing this performance, you all should be as stiff or be as off as Gadd is in this performance. In my view, this is a brilliant performance.
In addition to Gadd's interesting take on this classic Buddy chart, I thought the trumpets sounded pretty sharp. No wonder- I think that's Dave Stahl and Ross Konikoff on the left. I don't recognize the two on the right.
Does anyone know if Steve ever had a chance to play with the Tonight Show band? Or did he and Ed Shawnesy ever get to play along side each other like Buddy Rich and Louie Bellson did on occasion?
Gadd: Hey kid, I got some love for sale, you wanna buy? Buddy: Listen here, I got some love for sale, you're gonna buy it, otherwise we're gonna go outside and I'm gonna show you what it's like
By the time this compilation was cut, Gadd had a 30yr studio experience knowing what fits or not, but at the end of the day it all comes to ones musical taste... As far as I'm concerned, the straight 4 works just fine coz he seems to play ahead of the time through the whole piece, hence the tightness youre experiencing.. Regarding the speeding at the end, perhaps he was asked to? It was written on the LS? Bad headphone mix? Who knows... Either way, quite a token of Gadds unique approach..
Everyone has bad days. This was a rough one for Gadd. Just look at his face at the end of the tune, he knows it was far from perfect. Just cause someone is a famous player doesn't mean everything they play is genius.
No bigger Gadd fan than me! But I'm not really fond of the straight eighth notes on the ride in this. I think it would swing just a bit more with a standard ride pattern.
You are certainly correct...quarter notes and yep that straight pattern is sort of Steve's trademark...and he certainly needs no help from me. But still, I think this kind of mainstream straight ahead big-band chart would swing better with a swing pattern on the ride
I agree! It bothered me, also with the quarter hihat chick from the beginning. But he had solid groove and got most of the hit right. It's just a matter of musical taste.
i don't care for his approach. As I said, if he really loved the big band masters, his love for them would have prevented him from taking this approach. It would have been impossible. He studied them, I am sure, but he didn't love them like a Gregg Bissonette did.
Steve Gadd is a monster. There's no denying that. But, let's face it, NOBODY could drive a big band like Buddy. Compare this "Love For Sale" with Rich playing. Buddy always melted into the ensemble with an unsurpassed harmony of rhythm and swing. Never over-emphasizing anything like Gadd or dozens of others who try this kind of style. They all, consciously or unconsciously, overplay every time. When will they ever learn. Just sit back and swing man. Knock off the overplay!
How the hell can you say that Gadd is overplaying here? Backing the soloists letting do their thing and when called upon for the ensemble part he does some tasty fills (again not overplaying compared to Buddy). If you wanna talk about overplaying (or playing a lot) actually go listen to Buddy play lol - Overplaying isnt only about putting in too much stuff, its also about just playing too many notes... The amount of notes Gadd plays compared to Buddy is allllllllways less... oh and btw most people say Gadd underplays so I dont know where your idea of overplaying comes from lol "Just sit back and swing man" wtf is Gadd doing here? Jesus lord almighty
You are entitled to your opinion my friend, as am I, this is called democracy you know? There is no need to be offensive in what you write, and name calling is for children, then again judging by your poor grammar and punctuation maybe you are a child just trying to play at being "grown up"!
+peter grueneis So perhaps that's why he sound so much better than usual here? Especially the intro was nice, quite unlike Gadd's usual stiff and unresponsive style.
Exactly. Which surprises me. Because he practiced his a&& off for many, many years, and he HAD to go through a phase where he immersed himself in the big band masters. But they did not get him off, and that is why he doesn't sound like them. He COULD have, because he can do anything, but his love and instincts did not lead him to emulate them. And I am surprised. Check out Greg Bissonnette on the same sessions. Check out "In a Mellow Tone". You can tell that the big band masters grabbed him and he HAD to play like Buddy or Sonny Payne. He could NOT have done quarters with his LF or LH or RLF RLF triplets. No way. Because it is out of context, and he knows better, or his love or instinctive mimicking of the style he loves would not let him. Steve doesn't have the same love even though he is as great as any other drummer in the BFB sessions.
@@peanutter99 I just re-watched this. I guess what made me say he wasn't swinging is the way he's doing straight crotchets on the ride when playing time - imo it's a bit wooden
@@laneyAAA Fair enough man but that is just his sound and what he is legendary for. Some people like it some dont, but from what i've seen around and about Gadd is one of the only drummers where there is practically no hate which id say is cause he plays only for the band and to make it swing/groove and just sound great which imo this definitely does. But each to their own!
I would be terrified to play this in public because I know it would be pathetic, just like this, and I'd be sorry I'd done it. I skipped to the break because I KNEW he'd do the same stupid double bass drum thing that he does everywhere, every time, and sure enough... Bih Dih Buh Buh, Bih Dih Buh Buh,... Deliver me!
Right. He is an absolute monster but it seems like every time I check one of his videos he is forcing that lick in. Just like Vinnie and the R F L F and all its permutations forced into traditional big band songs out of context. These guys are 100 times as good as I am, and absolute monsters, but they don't love this genre or don't live and breathe it, otherwise they would never choose those licks that none of the great big band drummers would EVER do, even though they could.
Gadd is just too tight here, only in the last 30 seconds or so does he begin to loosen up, also the straight four cymbal method does not work here, it just stops it from swinging and makes the whole piece feel forced. Also, is it just me or does Gadd start to speed up during and after Steve Marcus's solo? All in all a bit disappointing really.
Steve Gadd is drumming perfection. Love his style.
Sooo tight. Gadd is great but so is everyone else on this recording. This is what music for people who appreciate professionalism is all about. BRAVO
Steve Gadd is so good that he just need to play a simple groove and the song sounds amazing.
Horn section is killin and the soloists are absolutely tearin it up!
His touch, sensitivity, Feel and Groove are just Amazing.
Steve Gadd needs no defense, but I will add my two cents to this discussion, having had the amazing opportunity to be at the Power Station the day they recorded this track (I was working as a video assistant for DCI.) When Steve arrived at the studio, someone said "How are you feeling, Steve?" and he said "Scared to death!" Everyone laughed, and of course he was sort of kidding, but a lot of the famous drummers who were asked to play a chart out of Buddy's book had a similar feeling about it. When you compare any of the Burnin' for Buddy tracks to the original recordings by Buddy Rich, you know immediately why - Buddy was and still is incomparable, and all those charts were written specifically for him and his unique style of playing. From a technical standpoint, there was a "sweet spot" for drums at the Power Station, where all the drummers set up to record their tracks, and the band was on the other side of the room, which wasn't ideal - there were some time problems with a lot of the drummers due to the distance between the drums and the band. During the practice take there were some time issues, but Gadd was so solid he pulled the whole band together and locked it in. He played Love For Sale like Steve Gadd, rather than trying to imitate Buddy. It was awesome to behold, and few drummers can drive a big band as well as Gadd.
Steve, thank you for sharing your story. High pressure, no doubt. I believe Neil recounted a similar remark but exclaimed 'but you are Steve Gadd'! I recall in Steve Gadd's ~95' interview how he want to have the feeling that the band is on fire when they are broken in on the road but it wasn't quite captured given the situation. Humble as Steve is, he sounded super grateful to have that opportunity and to play Love for Sale as a childhood dream. I also recall a Buddy interview, who could be brutally critical, named only Gadd as the 'new kid' that he was diggin' for drums lately (mid 70s I believe). Even though Buddy was a virtuoso, he seemed to always have an ear for musicians that could support a band. Steve plays with no ego and completely selflessly...I find it hard to be critical when I hear his intent. But again, everyone is human too.
I dont get how people are hating on him this much lol - This aint him (as you stated) trying to imitate Buddy, rather Gadd is playing Gadd. He has made the track his own so of course when people state "Buddy would burn him" or "Buddy Rich he aint", no he definitely isnt, but in the same way you could say that about any drummer playing a song Gadd played on, cause there is really no one like Gadd... He doesnt want his version to sound like Buddy's (no one professional drummer should want that) - he wants his own take on it, and I think he definitely got that... People saying he is "too tight" and "should loosen up" my humble opinion is that he cooks the track and makes it work :)
I just commented on another video of this DVD- I lived near Matt Sorum when I lived in LA, he said he same thing about these sessions about being scared to death (jokingly, but a hair of truth in there...)....these drummers are not trying to imitate Buddy- it's to hear how drummers of a later generation would interpret these charts- so any negative criticism is pointless....its a bummer they didnt get Colaiuta on this....i know they tried
Overheard in 18th century Vienna, "That Haydn ain't no Mozart."
Steve Holloway thanks for this great story!!!
This man seems to have just limitless technique and imagination. I love the "Bonham triplet" fills he throws in here and there just (seemingly) for the hell of it! Love it and love Gadd!
Nice to see Andy Fusco and Steve Marcus. Both gone now. Gadd is amongst the top few session drummers of all time and my personal favorite. But no one can play like Buddy. No matter how good a drummer is, it sounds wrong replacing Buddy Rich. I’ve seen all of the analysis of his playing, particularly left land. Give it up everyone. It can’t be done.
No could do Buddy better and no one could do Gadd better themselves. Gadd doing what he does beat sitting in the pocket, very unique time feel. Would love to have seen Tony Williams have a go at some of these tunes, that would have been amazing!
I haven't listened to this record in a decade, but I still know it by heart...
The fact that he's checking the chart as much as he does shows "hey I kinda know this arrangement of a standard". And he's just shredding it. One of my favorite albums growing up and its fun seeing the recordings up here now
No stellar comments. I just loved it!
I'm scoring for a drum because that is the very version that got me started listening to jazz drumming. This the best version
absolutely fantastic
Sometimes I read what some of the comments are , and Dang , there are some heavy critics on Steve's interpretation of this Song and arrangement . I just notice THIS about his take on that Tune . he has the Big picture in his heart and mind about it . The way he plays behind the 1st soloist , the alto. opens it up and let it pop while being a unit with the piano . same for the trumpet solo , for my ears just slightly different ,as it should be ! driving the bus while paying attention to all of it. then behind the Tenor barely accents just driving that baby safely home with backbeat on 4 in the second half of tenor solo and tight 4's on the Ride ,pushing and pushing the band . Brilliant . while adjusting headphone mix .
eric Wilhelm I completely agree with you
Agreed.
He's playing awesomely lightly!
Every drummer should see this video... Gadd is the best for playing simple and musically... I love Dennis Chambers but Steve Gadd is an expert of music... No need to be fast, technical, just groove is enough and Steve is the best for that!
Interesting -- more "in the pocket" than Buddy, who drove it more on top of the beat. Nice job, but honestly, Buddy's take on this on Big Swing Face is so killer, it can't be topped.
Nelson Montana It wasn’t meant to be “topped”. All of these great drummers were gotten together by Neil Peart (RIP) for a project to pay homage to the great Buddy Rich. They all injected their own personalities into the recordings as it should be; no one was trying to outplay Buddy or do a note for note transcription. Drumming is not a competition
@@sharper9009 He didn't have to outplay him. Check out Gregg Bissonette. You can tell that Steve doesn't have the same love for the big band style. If he did, it would not have allowed him to take his approach. Gregg put in his own style but his love and decades of immersion helped him play, contextually, in the traditional style of the big band masters. Steve went somewhere else. We can call it "his approach" or "his personality" but I just say this - if he really really craved and loved that style, which I think was Gregg's favorite, he could NOT have plugged in this rendition here. It sounded weird.
Love it!!
Gadd is a master. Nailed it.
Absolutamente genial Steve!!!!!
No me gusta comparar!!! Cada quien tiene lo suyo!!!
Just perfect
Damn! That 3/4 pattern comping fill in the beginning of this tune is absolutely ridiculous, the way he fuses with the piano blows me away.
Have never seen a guest drummer at these Buddy concerts, playing Slingerland...Buddy’s favourite.
These concerts and possibly the recording of this album were partly sponsored by manufacturers.
In 1989 when the first Buddy Rich memorial concerts took place and were filmed, and later with the filming and recording of this studio session, Steve Gadd along with Weckle and Vinnie were Yamaha and Zildjian's biggest salesmen. They all switched from the Yamaha recording series to Maple Customs around the time of the filming of this studio session.
I don't mean to be cynical as these guys are all amazing musicians, but part of their job was selling product and the the way in which they played sold drumsets , sticks and cymbals to the kids.
The same for Omar Hakim, Bissonette, Chambers and Smitty Smith with Pearl and Steve Smith with Sonor.
I agree, I would love to hear some of these drummers playing on vintage equipment sometime.
I've said it before and I'll say it again..........stop reading and start PLAYING!!!!!!!!
The parts he's reading is when the trumpet pops happen. You can't "feel" when that's gonna happen.
Almost there...
Perfectttttttttttttt
Great!!
Damn! What a brass section!
画を見ずに聴くと…すごい!!!!!☆
wish I could play as bad as Gadd??? everyone's a critic, Gadd has done it and delivered, just enjoy it people and remember that when you are playing your next gig to 10-15 people
+Mike Roberts 10-15 people that are all family members!
Theres a reason for Gadd to be there, as well as guys like Tommy Igoe and Benny Greb, as next generation great drummers. The keyboard drummer warriors are usually in their bedrooms pointing the finger to history making musicians. I wish I could play at this level... I don't consider myself
untalented, but I know my place :-)
Listen to all those Berklee School of Music musicians....they cook!
Ah Steve Gadd
Exactly!!!! No competition!!!!
I don't like to compare between great musician!!!!!? In all Instruments the same way!
Nice 💥💢💫
Buddy Rich band arrangement. Steve Marcus on tenor solo
Gadd is phenomenal. But the horn section is ridiculously tight.
Great ! I love the sax player ! ( sorry! Forgot his name!my bad!).Love Steve Gadd!
@@musopaul5407 Oh! Thank you !!! I appreciate it very much!👍❣🙂
Tone of Gadd's drums are great. Not the usual dead sound he seems to like.
Burnin' for Buddy is obviously highlighting drummers, but it's interesting to note the drummers that played best "with" the band. Gadd is easily top 3. My fave are Ed Shaughnessy, Steve Gadd, & Joe Morello simply because they didn't overplay & had that swing feel.
Some top drummers today...but they know they can’t match Buddy...no one can.
「クロスオーバーな『ラブ・フォー・セール』」というガッド印！☆
god
For those criticizing this performance, you all should be as stiff or be as off as Gadd is in this performance. In my view, this is a brilliant performance.
In addition to Gadd's interesting take on this classic Buddy chart, I thought the trumpets sounded pretty sharp. No wonder- I think that's Dave Stahl and Ross Konikoff on the left. I don't recognize the two on the right.
at 1:08 Doesn't like something in the phones plays with a few knobs and comes right in with the Hits. He's Unbelievable.
Does anyone know if Steve ever had a chance to play with the Tonight Show band? Or did he and Ed Shawnesy ever get to play along side each other like Buddy Rich and Louie Bellson did on occasion?
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Gadd: Hey kid, I got some love for sale, you wanna buy?
Buddy: Listen here, I got some love for sale, you're gonna buy it, otherwise we're gonna go outside and I'm gonna show you what it's like
Alto improv is great -- all those fffffs... fffrafa-fftftahhh
By the time this compilation was cut, Gadd had a 30yr studio experience knowing what fits or not, but at the end of the day it all comes to ones musical taste... As far as I'm concerned, the straight 4 works just fine coz he seems to play ahead of the time through the whole piece, hence the tightness youre experiencing.. Regarding the speeding at the end, perhaps he was asked to? It was written on the LS? Bad headphone mix? Who knows... Either way, quite a token of Gadds unique approach..
I love how someone sitting at a computer can criticize STEVE GADD's ability to swing.... smh
Everyone has bad days. This was a rough one for Gadd. Just look at his face at the end of the tune, he knows it was far from perfect. Just cause someone is a famous player doesn't mean everything they play is genius.
Anyone criticizing Gadd is just a hater!
I would like to have seen Steve go for that powerful superfast single stroke roll at 3.46 but nevertheless I think he did a great job
Me too, but I'm sure Steve thought that was one comparison he didn't want to try to make. Buddy's hypersonic ssroll was absolutely dynamite.
Maybe Steve couldn't play a fast single stroke roll like Buddy-- but who cares?
his fill was his own & nailed the
arrangement.
Drummers are better than the original musically. Buddy’s band had a unique sound and style with buddy.
all these fucking adds are fucking everything up.
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WHICH SNARE IS HE PLAYING????
He was playing Ludwig Supraphonic 400 snare drum at that time.
A different &;more modern approach
than Buddy who would have I'm sure
dug it; Rich didn't like copy cats.
No bigger Gadd fan than me! But I'm not really fond of the straight eighth notes on the ride in this. I think it would swing just a bit more with a standard ride pattern.
You are certainly correct...quarter notes and yep that straight pattern is sort of Steve's trademark...and he certainly needs no help from me. But still, I think this kind of mainstream straight ahead big-band chart would swing better with a swing pattern on the ride
I agree! It bothered me, also with the quarter hihat chick from the beginning. But he had solid groove and got most of the hit right. It's just a matter of musical taste.
i don't care for his approach. As I said, if he really loved the big band masters, his love for them would have prevented him from taking this approach. It would have been impossible. He studied them, I am sure, but he didn't love them like a Gregg Bissonette did.
Buddy would eat gadds lunch. And did
They're playing Love for Sale, he's playing 50 Ways....
Хватит играть пионерские сбивки. Отвыкни раз и навсегда)
Steve Gadd is a monster. There's no denying that. But, let's face it, NOBODY could drive a big band like Buddy. Compare this "Love For Sale" with Rich playing. Buddy always melted into the ensemble with an unsurpassed harmony of rhythm and swing. Never over-emphasizing anything like Gadd or dozens of others who try this kind of style. They all, consciously or unconsciously, overplay every time. When will they ever learn. Just sit back and swing man. Knock off the overplay!
How the hell can you say that Gadd is overplaying here? Backing the soloists letting do their thing and when called upon for the ensemble part he does some tasty fills (again not overplaying compared to Buddy). If you wanna talk about overplaying (or playing a lot) actually go listen to Buddy play lol - Overplaying isnt only about putting in too much stuff, its also about just playing too many notes... The amount of notes Gadd plays compared to Buddy is allllllllways less... oh and btw most people say Gadd underplays so I dont know where your idea of overplaying comes from lol "Just sit back and swing man" wtf is Gadd doing here? Jesus lord almighty
vamos Steve, no te juntes con esta chusma
You are entitled to your opinion my friend, as am I, this is called democracy you know? There is no need to be offensive in what you write, and name calling is for children, then again judging by your poor grammar and punctuation maybe you are a child just trying to play at being "grown up"!
Gadd is a verry good drummer - no doubt! BUT this is not his music...And thats OK. it does not mean any classification..right?
+peter grueneis
So perhaps that's why he sound so much better than usual here? Especially the intro was nice, quite unlike Gadd's usual stiff and unresponsive style.
Exactly. Which surprises me. Because he practiced his a&& off for many, many years, and he HAD to go through a phase where he immersed himself in the big band masters. But they did not get him off, and that is why he doesn't sound like them. He COULD have, because he can do anything, but his love and instincts did not lead him to emulate them. And I am surprised. Check out Greg Bissonnette on the same sessions. Check out "In a Mellow Tone". You can tell that the big band masters grabbed him and he HAD to play like Buddy or Sonny Payne. He could NOT have done quarters with his LF or LH or RLF RLF triplets. No way. Because it is out of context, and he knows better, or his love or instinctive mimicking of the style he loves would not let him. Steve doesn't have the same love even though he is as great as any other drummer in the BFB sessions.
Not Steve's best effort. You could say WEAK !! If Buddy was alive he'd probably say, "Steve, take the chains off and LET LOOSE !! "
Many drummers call this their favorite track on the entire compilation, including Neil Peart.
@@joeday4293 No - "In a Mellow Tone" by Gregg Bissonnette mirrors BR the best and swings the most.
Buddy Rich he ain't.
Steve Gadd he aint. Hes not trying to be buddy rich
The band is swinging, Steve Gadd is not.
This comment is ages old but come on... Do you have ears fella?
He is swinging, I guess, but the approach and choice doesn't get me off at all.
@@peanutter99 I just re-watched this. I guess what made me say he wasn't swinging is the way he's doing straight crotchets on the ride when playing time - imo it's a bit wooden
@@laneyAAA Fair enough man but that is just his sound and what he is legendary for. Some people like it some dont, but from what i've seen around and about Gadd is one of the only drummers where there is practically no hate which id say is cause he plays only for the band and to make it swing/groove and just sound great which imo this definitely does. But each to their own!
I would be terrified to play this in public because I know it would be pathetic, just like this, and I'd be sorry I'd done it. I skipped to the break because I KNEW he'd do the same stupid double bass drum thing that he does everywhere, every time, and sure enough... Bih Dih Buh Buh, Bih Dih Buh Buh,... Deliver me!
Right. He is an absolute monster but it seems like every time I check one of his videos he is forcing that lick in. Just like Vinnie and the R F L F and all its permutations forced into traditional big band songs out of context. These guys are 100 times as good as I am, and absolute monsters, but they don't love this genre or don't live and breathe it, otherwise they would never choose those licks that none of the great big band drummers would EVER do, even though they could.
Gadd is just too tight here, only in the last 30 seconds or so does he begin to loosen up, also the straight four cymbal method does not work here, it just stops it from swinging and makes the whole piece feel forced. Also, is it just me or does Gadd start to speed up during and after Steve Marcus's solo? All in all a bit disappointing really.
Total crap - what an insult to the great Buddy Rich.
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