Hasselblad XCD 4/28P + X2D 100C: The best $10,000 camera!
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
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Tony & Chelsea Northrup review the Hasselblad 28mm f/4 lens, which is a 22mm f/3.2 equivalent prime lens. It's the perfect walking around/general photography lens, and combined with Hasselblad's 100 megapixel medium format mirrorless camera, you can do DEEP crops, allowing it to function like a more versatile zoom lens.
Tony & Chelsea review it for design, handling, sharpness, contrast, flaring, bokeh, and portraits. They also demonstrate how the 1/4000" leaf shutter is superior to a traditional focal plane shutter. This is really a camera review and a lens review all-in-one.
PSA: A Lamborghini is a beautiful car, but I don’t need one to get to work 😊
No, but if you have a Lamborghini, you definitely have several other cars in your garage.
Some people with a Lamborghini might probably not even need to get to work…
Then why post useless comment
I only have one Lambo...
@@gurugamer8632ahhh all the poor me comments
so this is the ONLY Hasselblad video that convinced me to buy! you guys are great
“Bentley” vibes when you touched the metal lens 😂
😂😂 that lady whispering Bentley while maintaining eye contact
@@mikelay5360 Haha that’s the one!!
The small print at the beginning labels this as advertisement. I think that label should have been larger. Question: with what other lens was "smearing in the corners" described as a good thing because it emphasized the center of the image?
Adorama sponsored the video, not Hasselblad. We have never accepted money or free gear from any camera or lens manufacturer. I promise, if we were sponsored by Hasselblad, they would not have wanted us to point out the smearing in the corners.
FWIW, I love your channel. The production seemed commercial like and perhaps contradictory to some of your other comments on the Hasselblad System. Look forward to your next video.@@TonyAndChelsea
I am amazed how small the entrance pupil is.
Hasselblad making a push right before the new GFX100 next month
If you have to choose, GFX 100 II or X2D?
GFX for work and the X2D for fun.
Interesting video. I would suggest when you compare the two pictures side by side in the minute 9:03, you would postprocess the Hasselblad one so you can show in real life how much dynamic range of the picture you can recover. For example, just brightening the shadows would show a much more comparable picture to the Nikon one. Thats just my suggestion, you could do more if you want of course.
I had a flash-related question with the X2D but I think you confirmed my thoughts…. I shoot sony, with sony-centric flashpoint strobes (many!). I also use the Sony-branded Flashpoint R2 wireless trigger.. IF I purchase a Nikon-branded Flashpoint R2 trigger CAN I mount the Nikon-R2 trigger to the X2d and fire my Sony-centric Flashpoint strobes?? I don’t want to buy into a different flash system; love the Flashpoint system.
Way back in the film days I used to shoot with a
Mamiya RB67 Pro-S Medium format camera also had Kowa six medium format cameras. But now we’re in the digital age, so I have a Sony a7Riii with 4 prime lenses.
Nice vid
FYI - Max sync speed of Z9 is 1/200 not 1/160th and there is also 1/250 TTL FP (which deploys a slightly different flash process). The same can be said for the A1 when using electronic shutter and full frame (obviously the A1 offers faster sync speed shooting crop mode or using the mechanical shutter.
Clearly Tony if you bought better strobes than the "lousy cheap" Godox you used (unless it was the AD600 series -- and yes I do mean Profoto or Broncolor strobes) then you would not have "suffered" the lack of flash power issue you did using the leaf shutter (and yes obviously no speed light can deliver the power to support such shutter speeds - not even the 76Ws A10) - a B10X or D2 (in studio) with 500Ws and 100Ws can. You loose 2 stops with the light modifier you used as well and could easily have moved the light closer or changed to a more reflective and less diffuse modifier, with obvious downsides; but ok. Point made. One can freeze action/movement with 1/4000th that one can most certainly not using HSS or 1/200th or even 1/400th
It would be interesting to see if the X2D or any of your other cameras suffer banding when using HSS at 1/2000th or faster and your godox.
What is "interesting" to me at least as an owner of an X2D-100C and most XCD lenses (including the 4/28P as soon as it arrives) is the fact that Hasselblad appears to have "fixed" whatever the issue was with the new shutter design that it can be deployed and deployed cheaply in a new lens like the 4/28P, while we are still YET to see the first delivery of the 2.5/90V -- launched over a year ago but plagued by "not good enough for Hasselblad to release".
Lots of pathetic rumours that DJI is dumbing down H and the X series in particular, that we have not seen what other V or P lenses will be coming and endless complaint that H has not delivered promised firmware that allows LV while tethering OR hoped for features like continuous AutoFocus (because this is why we are buying the new V and P lenses -- they autofocus faster (albeit in single AF mode only currently)
I assume that the issue of reduced flash power at fast shutter speeds is not due to flash duration but due to lag of the wireless transmitter (so called "propagagation time"). At least at low flash powers = fast flash durations). Do you have more details about this? At what shutter speeds to you see a reduction of flash power? (At what flash duration?) And yes: I also do not understand why the 2.5/90mmV ist delayed so much.
Amazing video. It was informative and you tried different settings all well done. What im also quite shocked at is what camera are you using when you were walking @2:35. Amazing crystal clear footage.
This lens + camera will go great with my Rolls Royce Spectre.
In the brief exposure to the Hasselblad camera I see it as a studio and portrait specific camera. I am impressed with the crisp and detailed photos this camera takes, along with the crop ability, and retaining the sharp image. If Sony had a medium format camera with a 100mp sensor, it would take photos in the same caliber of presentation as the Hasselblad camera. Each camera is designed for its purpose. I have not ever encountered the bubble bokeh until I have viewed this video, if it is the effect you are going for awesome! The Hasselblad has its strengths, however it also has its limitations.
Not unless Sony made leaf shutters with it
You guys love your Sony.
It's a stunning landscape camera and the Hasselblad Natural Color Solution has no equivalent in Sony. Even with a 100mp MF camera, Sony would not match the IQ.
Excuse my ignorance. Does it mean that with the Hasselblad camera, one could take photos in sunlight with just a flash without a Flashpoint XPLOR 600 R2 like you would with the Nikon?
I love that trigger, so small and easy to use.
I’ve never made photos using anything more sophisticated than an iPhone. But, strangely enough, I enjoy videos about Hasselblads or Leicas. They look so cool 😎
Since the z9 / z8 don't have a mechanical shutter could Nikon design a line of lenses w leaf shutters?
What a great job you two have done of explaining the "why" of it all. The folks @adorama are wise to have teamed up with RUclips's best photo edutainment power couple.
Even in the latest version, it also has feature that no video mode, so you will focus more on photography.
aGREED.
4x3 not 10x8.
Use better flashes like Profoto B10X plus OR Broncolor would would face less issues.
Other than that I agree.
Hi guys,
What camera are you filming yourselves on? 😊
A7S III with 24 F1.4 and 35 F1.4.
I'm sure a camera like this will give camera snobs a warm fuzzy feeling but will it produce images that are significantly better than a camera 1/3 the cost?
Yes.
There are some scenarios where you will see a difference and many where you will not see a difference. However I think making it about simply technical image quality misses the point of the Hasselblad system. Every time you pick up the camera, you feel the differences in the thoughtful, minimalist design.
Driving a car isn't always about simply getting from point A to point B. Sometimes, a car's design can be beautiful. The sound of the engine can be inspiring. The feel of the materials can be luxury.
Photography, for most, is not just about capturing beauty but also experiencing beauty.
Yeah. Much better.. but only if you're a competent photographer...
Well, you can get a used full-frame DSLR and lens for like a tenth of the price and get much better results in any use case.
I doubt this camera and lens combo could even compete with a $400 APS-C combo.
Just overpriced pretentious "luxury" nonsense like Leica.
If you like those cameras/brands, fine, but don't try to rationalize that irrational purchase when you try to position yourself as a "professional, unbiased review channel that has never accepted any money from any manufacturer"
I have a X1DII and often rent the latest flavor of canon as a back up, and the difference between the two is quite noticeable
bye@@bugostare
I am so wanting to buy into the Hasselblad system, but am so torn up about missing focus. I wear contacts and sometimes glasses and still have a hard time doing manual focus well. Can you speak to the auto focus issues with the X2D?
We only shot still subjects with the single AF point using focus-recompose but it never missed focus. However, that's the technique I would use with a 20 year old SLR, too. I really miss eye detection; that's the one feature that's kept me from buying it. Especially when shooting portraits it really slows everything down and will make me miss moments.
@@TonyAndChelseaI think a firmware update has just added eye detection AF. The lack of that is the main thing that holds me back from purchase. Would be interested in a follow up to see if it can keep up with other mirrorless cameras and prime lenses (currently use an R5).
I shoot with x1d and don’t miss focus but I’m patient
Thank you @TonyAndChelsea I apprachate the quick review about the 28P. I was recently about the purchase the 45P and now rethinking to pay more and get the 28P... any thoughts/prefrence compared to the 45P?
Get both
Guys you look great! Happy to see you and your work as always!
Thanks so much!
The correct comparison between Z9 and H2D would have been to use the same speed (1/640th) with both cameras (HSS mode for Z9)...
For the streets of Paris, would the 28p be a better choice than the new 38? Love your reviews, thank you
question. How do these images compare to a Sony A7R V w/or w/o flash particularly with moving subjects, cropping etc.
Hasselblad blows it out of water. Its sensor being so huge just captures really beautiful images though not for moving subjects
Nice mini-tutorial with the high-sync portraits in this "gear review."
Love my x2d it’s a game changer
...which lens
Good review of the lens and the system, just a curiosity of mine, which brand and model of trigger and strobe did you use in the last part of the video?
SSD NAND storage is a part that wears out depending on how much you write to it additionally to the general aging of electronic components. Sure hope that Hasselblad doesn’t use the very same user-accessible SSD as the location for their camera operating system.
I'm sure the OS is on separate flash memory the same way their previous cameras without internal storage worked. But computers and phones use similar storage for their OS's and we don't see constant storage failures from them.
@@TonyAndChelsea Apple’s latest MacBook Pro models have moved their basic EFI firmware (the stuff that manages everything from the moment the system powers on even before the regular operating system) from being on a separate chip to the general user-accessible SSD. When the SSD NAND fails the MacBook can be thrown into the trash, unlike earlier you can’t boot off external storage since the basic EFI firmware is then gone, too. Disgusting electronics design.
Wouldn’t be surprised if other manufacturers made similar cost-cutting decisions, too - “The SSD is in there anyway, why not just use it just by itself to save space on the logic board and cut cost at the same time?”
Very enjoyable. I especially liked the demonstration of the advantages of a leaf shutter over a focal plane shutter with outdoor fill flash. I also loved the way you used a 28 mm lens with a high resolution sensor to get longer lens effects.
Video quality looks so nice!
Thank you! Until the last segment in our yard where we were lit entirely by the green grass and everything got really gross.
Same lens cap system was on my Sony RX1R
The beautiful lens hood was also on my Sony RX1R
Where can I find a place where this couple display their photographs?
Are the any channels dedicated to lower $$$ photography. It’s nice to see this crazy gear, but I’ll never get to use it.
6:10 - those diffraction grating flares are fun artifacts
Fuji GFX100s II !!!!!!!!!!!!! updated sensor to the X2D (both use Sony)
I'm a bit confused and concerned about this new lens offering. If I'm understanding this correctly, you are saying this lens isn't as good optically as the other XCD Lenses. I'm in the market for a lens in this focal range for my Hasselblad X1D ii but now I'm thinking it may not be the lens. Secondly, why would Hasselblad make a lens like this if it's not optically up to par with their other lenses? It doesn't make sense to pair this with a $8200 100 MP camera.
Every camera system has some lenses optimized for image quality and some optimized for size and weight. I didn't have the 30 on hand so I'm not really sure how it might compare... it's more expensive and a bit faster but also older.
Wait did you use the same trigger on both the nikon and hassleblad?
The X2D is fully compatible with Nikon flash system, so…
I take pictures of dancers and gymnasts. 1/200 or 1/250 is often too slow to freeze the motion. Leaf shutter lenses solve this problem.
This lens has no in lens stabilization, and when I attach it to my X2D 100c, and try to take a photo, it says this lens is not compatible with the IBIS and I have to turn it off to get the camera to work, am I missing something?
Yes
switched teams from KEH to Adorama huh
Are the Arial shots taken with the Hasselblad?
DJI drone using Hasselblad true color tech.
I cannot afford the Swedish masterpeace X2D with 100 MP, but the predecessors go down in price ...
Then a X1D II in combination with the 45 and the now - October 23, new introduced 28, will be realistic ...
4:03 That metal sounded like aluminium (aka aluminum in America).
I'm waiting for the 90mm lens to see how they look for professional headshots
Very interesting review, thanks for sharing! In the OCF section, I think you forgot to mention that you can get great results that are not overexposed with cameras like the Z9 by using ND filters.
Yes, though again that also requires more flash output.
@@TonyAndChelsea Oh yes I forgot about that! As many stops as the ND blocks, as long as ISO and aperture remain the same, right? So, it would mean you could work with a AD200 or similar.
@@luisdiegosalas It all has to do with the balance of power between the strobe and the natural light... An ND filter does not modify that balance, it does not weaken the strobe vs the natural light like the HSS mode would do...
Is the Hasselblad XCD 4/28P the camera?
The camera is X2D 100C.
I really miss the older content when it wasnt just a infomercial for tour various vendor's and equipment manufacturers
Use a speedlight. Damn weak but damn fast.
Darn it now I want a hasselblad!!
Asmr segment was 👌👌👌
60p looks great for video
Yeah we love it.
OK - you have sold me & I have talked my wife into it. What is the sharpest lens I can put on this that Hasselblad makes?
You’re going to love it! We have to try more lenses
@@chelseanorthrup8787 I think I'm going to start with the new 90mm & the new 28mm to start.
Thanks for all the hard work you put into your videos. It really shows!!
Well, honestly, carrying any "not compact" camera will make you look like a photographer
I didn’t even know that angles of view had specific years, great to learn such crucial details!
You're being sarcastic but we've discussed how the preference for different angles of view has changed over the years: ruclips.net/video/PHcb_UugiPo/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/8etFWgTPSaA/видео.html
8:00 1/60 or 1/160?
It's 1/160, which is kinda weird to say.
Crazy how there's a reverse crop factor to the medium format. The strange effects at edges and behavior with sun stars are likely for the sensor just being so large. Im assuming of course.
so no video capability?
Swedish top quality. Amazing camera. For stills.
Yeah it doesn't do video at all.
Time to watch a video about a camera that i will never be able to afford
Work work work, save...it can be yours.
@@MichaelRichards983I don't know if you've noticed the cost of living lately....
Yes, Biden has ruined the economy and everyone knows it, that's why it's important to vote but that doesn't change anything; when there is something that you desire you work and save. That's life. @@HappySlappii
Luxury gear, overkill
Not the best, Tony. 1st, Eyecup and EVF resolution of all Hasselblad XCD Series was a big mistake, or -joke, right from the start. 2econd, did i say slow? AF Speed is horrible, compared to Fujifilm GFX Series. Fujifilm really brought Medium Format to the masses - albeit for those, who are wealthy. 🙂 Last, but not least 3rd - the GFX 100 Mk. II comes soon, rumored with the fastest AF of *any* MF setup, a new 102 MP Sensor, and also IBIS with 8 (!) stops. Times are interesting.
/fixed typo
troll
But the Fuji will still give you Disney colors you do not want.
sample images with fill in flash did not work some images too dark has nothing to do with flash camera was severly underexposed. Not good advice or example.
If flash is properly synced, exposure does not change with shutter speed. With properly synced flash, shutter speed controls ambient light exposure while foreground lighting remains constant. Check our Flash Video Training at Northrup.photo.
It is called balanced flash with ambient light get the daylight exposure correct and use a small amount of flash as fill in.
perhaps Nikon & Canon have this wrong
@@TonyAndChelsea
@@johngabris9690Somebody got it wrong.
great UX from a company with a smaller budget to do all this than the majors.
Yeah, I really attribute it to having a different cultural background from the other big companies.
It’s literally a giant Chinese tech company.
We all know what this video actually is... final excuse for Tony to grab a hassy 😅😁 hey I love my gfx100s. Go for it!
Those flares, the bokeh, the smearing are atrocious. I think we can stop sucking up to hasselblad (or leica for that matter) and labelling every piece of crap lens with its aberrations as "character". You know what characteristic people who pay 10k for fashion items want? Perfection, inside and out. I dont believe for a second any of those are "desirable". Apologist nonsense for a 1700usd lens.
1:52
I want one 😅
Photos looks like a 100 megapixel webcam
I stopped watching when bad optics was spun as "helping to focus the eyes on the center of the image".
yea, I'm gonna watch a review on a $10,000 camera ..... not worth it with all the cell phones, AI and all the editing software... you guys keep pricing me out of your blog
Wtf
Why can't other camera makers design like this?
It's a good question. They only seem to care about cramming in every feature.
Because Scandinavians and Japanese have very different mind settings in design and ergonomics.
Wow! Amazing lens and camera. Sure. That video tho… Excellent video and sound. Major props for the beauty of all the walking shots. Shot on a top secret lens, maybe…?
Sony 24 F1.4.
what kind of flash are you using , looks expensive but works like shit , i use Yongnuo 658 i think , and i can perfectly use it in high speed sync , so i can get things done on Canon 5D classic . I think its not the camera its your bad or not utilized properly flash , i really doubt it cant do the same thing it done on Husselblad on nikon , shit it can with chinese flash and 5D classic , how cheaper can you go and it all works fine no problems what so ever , except that i usually forget to put it in high speed and i get overexposed shots , until i figure out what's wrong . I think this is your sale thing on Huselblud and i really do hate those phase detect pixels , its juts looks bad , pretty much ruins all your photos for landscape where you have sun in front or strong light , yeah you can correct everything in post even blown out sky you can replace it , and you can shift the color cast and make skin look good even in that picture . But i dont see the point , for1 my clients dont need more then 2 mpix , or 4 mpix . Everyone is on their phone or printing small 6by4 inches prints or smaller . And even with 5D classic there is plenty detail there . And yes it has better 3D effect then Husselblad , a lot better , but you can downsample the image from Husselblad to 12mpix and get that pop , or most of it , but then why have 100mpix , i cant figure it out , cant imagine one scenario where you need it even if your picture needs to cover a sky scraper , people are going to look at it from far , so 12mpix is still good enough , i watched magnum photographers work , no they dont need 100 megapixel nor such a big camera . And i would hate processing 100mpix , that takes time .
Super light metal: aluminum
😂😂😂 yaassss i love this 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Hi from Finland = in between sweden and russia often invaded by both, not really scandinavian. I really like many of your videos but this one is a full on commercial. I sincerely hope people get some other brand medium format camera should they need it. Hasselblad used to be brand that could sell their products on the back of their quality, not some disguised advertisement bs.
Well, it does seem that the MF camera market is heating up between Hasselblad and Fuji at least. Which is good for consumers because I think the two will drive prices down in a race to the bottom so to speak. With bodies costing $5000 to $10,000 that's a bit more feasible than what they used to be (like some of the PhaseOne models, which could easily cost $15k or more for the body). So this in a way is good news, but still far too expensive for my tastes (and probably most people's) as it seems FF is still a very good option for 90% of people out there.
Hasselblad is a luxury brand so I don't see it becoming commoditized and devalued... Any more than Rolls Royce and Bentley have driven prices down. The Fuji medium format cameras actually feel terrible in the hands, IMO. The menu systems are archaic and overly complex.
Does that change the images? No, but for many photography is more about the journey than the results.
@@TonyAndChelsea I'm not saying it was going to be. It's just become more affordable to the masses than it used to be, which is a good thing in a way. I, at least, don't see that as devaluing in any way. MF is still considered a "premium" format regardless of the actual price to get into it, in many people's minds.
@@TonyAndChelsea I switched from Fuji GFX to Hasselblad because of that.
So the camera body is truly a work of art....but weak AF and so-so IQ from the lens keep me from reaching for my credit card
Chaina camera
This is 80% bull ,. This camera is a dog ,. I have the X2D 100c ,a 45p
Lens , a 55v lens and a 65 mm,. They are all dogs I can’t get any decent performance ,. The image turns to mush at the slightest crop,.. every time I put the camera to my eye I get a different screen ..
And then,..I bought everything at the Hasselblad store .
They , send me a 65 mm lens in a pre-opened box I sent it back they sent me another 65 mm lens in a pre-opened box and they refuse me to return it . Not only is the camera, a dog but the company and the people working for them. They’re all dogs.
Dear tony in Europe the only things we have propaganda and lying . If you believe god if you gives me hundred hasselblad I will never change to my z9 . At least I have 8k video resolution
Supports a genocidal government though, big nope from me
The X2D 100C is awkward, clunky, slow.... and makes beautiful images.... could not accept, and got rid of it.
F4 is so dark thats crazy, the lowlight will be ass lol, phones have 1.8.
F4 on a MF is not F4, multiply by, I think, 0.79 to get your F number on 35mm standards. Phone's 1.8 is not real 1.8 btw. Hope that helps.
@@artphototechit is f4, f4 is always f4. Even if it wasn’t, f2.8 is so dark. The multiplication of f stop is only relevant for blurry background and not for absolute light value.
You need more glass to make f4 for either a longer focal length or for a larger imaging circle but the intensity of light is the same.
Check it out on RUclips, people take the same picture on apsc and full frame at the same f stop and you get the same brightness.
And yes, every phone has 1.8 and it is in fact 1.8
See sdp.io/crop for more info. A phones f1.8 is equivalent to f7-f/16, depending on the sensor. This camera is equivalent to f3.2.
@@TonyAndChelsea thanks.
@@TonyAndChelsea a phones lens is equivalent to f7- fx for depth of field but not for intensity of light. This at f4 will be much darker than a full frame at f3.2
Misinformation
🤣 "The best $10,000 camera", it is just about the only $10,000 camera !
$8200
Yes I know, but the headline says $10,000 !
Perfect for capturing the utterly banal, already seen a million times, pictures taken by 99.99% of enthusiast and 98% of professional photographers
It's like saying a Bentley is perfect for commuting. Photography isn't just about the end result for everyone. It's okay to enjoy the experience. Photography is supposed to be about appreciating beauty and having fun.
@@TonyAndChelsea "Photography is supposed to be about appreciating beauty and having fun."
Truf
I bet you're a real scream at parties!
The Hasselblad picture was not tact sharp, the eyes were not focussed. So does that mean the 10K Chinese camera has shitty AF?
How would the flash pictues looked on another camera with a mechanical shutter? Probably very similar but with "better AF"
My question is why Mr. Northrup picked up Nikon Z9 to make the comparison with Hassleblad medium format cam? As you are a Canon or Sony lover why stops you tell the same thing that fullframe Canon R5 or Sony A1 portraits do not look as professional as Hassleblad one. Will they stop paying you money for bashing Canon or Sony fullframe cams? Seeing this I can 100% say that you are biased reviewers
Nikon has always been known to have superior image rendering to Sony and canon… you have to admit his reviews are actually full of relevant concise info with no fake jazz tracks or attention seeking prologues.
The Z9's sync speed is 1/160, the R5's sync speed is 1/250 (with e-1st curtain), and the a1's sync speed is 1/400 (mechanical shutter). The Z9 is the weakest of the high-res flagships in this area and that made the function of the leaf shutter easier to demonstrate.
I don't think it's completely correct statement that nikon z9's max sync speed is 1/160s. It should have been said as the default sync speed for Z9, however it could be tweaked in the settings menu to set it to 1/250s also as far as I know. So terming it as weakest of the competition I don't think would be the right statement.
@@18yearsoldnot, I do not know in which world you come from? But I used Nikon for over 6 years. But Sony was better in color realism and much sharper as well. And Sony also has a more 3D image regarding the level of depth compared to Nikon. But Hasselblad overrules them both in color accuracy and sharpness. This is why I bought the X2D and will sell all my Sony gear after 12 years of using Sony.
@@bobbykingma4109 I come from the human world. I’m sure Sony takes brilliant portraits if you are a reptile with the green and overly denoised skin.
nothing can justify a 10,000 $ camera. nothing.
How about a $8200 camera?