Man this is the best breakdown I've heard and I'm going to order your book once I'm done with the physical symptoms. I'm on day 6 right now and I'm feeling better than days 1-5 but still having some shitty symptoms
@Nolanwrites 3 weeks tomorrow man. 3 weeks totally clean and never going back. I did get the book and am working my way through it, it's got some brilliant stuff in it and I've recommended to loads of people wanting to quit on reddit. Thanks for the support I appreciate. One day at a time
When I’ve stopped I’ve used L Tyrosine during day for energy. Started this amino acid before I stopped Kratom. I used Resful Legs supplement at night for legs. Benadryl at night to sleep. Immodium for diarrhea.
Day 19 here CT. Feeling infinitely better, but still having some shitty sleep and I can’t seem to shake the brain fog, pressure in my head feeling. Oh that, and trash energy. But I’m proud and I’m not going back. Cool video, pretty spot on. Cheers!
I remember Days 2 and 3 feeling so insane that all I could do was just laugh. It was just so funny to me I got hooked on something so stupid and it was beating my ass 😂
@@mohdpaijam9630 usually after the 1st week the yawning and restlessness will start creeping away. By 2 weeks, you should be back to mostly normal. At that point, it’s more of a psychological issue but that’s for any drug tbh. If you’ve stopped, keep going. It’ll get better I promise. Time moves slow but it catches up fast.
@@TheDiversifiedFarmer good advice - find your base line - decrease usage from there. no benefit to quitting cold turkey and tapering is so much easier!
I got a medication for that called Requip a few times and still have it. I was hopeful because I read it's a dopamine agonist, and the addict pseudoscience knowing bit of me thought it had potential. Not sure if it helps or not really it's a strange feeling drug, and I was on a cocktail of other comfort meds being taken at the same time that did more for my rls probably.
Well done. You seem like a really good dude. I appreciate your effort to convey a very helpful message through your personal experiences. (I’m getting ready for sober October). Cheers.
Picked up your book and began fast tapering and will slow it down possibly when in single digits. Down to 17 gpd with lots of symptoms. I’ve tried several times but in the past climbed back up. I need support!
It's been a few weeks since your comment, but we've all got you, get what you are going through, and I am PERSONALLY rooting for you. If you're back on the kratom train, your life is going to be so much better without kratom in it, and I want you to be able to come back to this comments section and tell us all that you did it and it's gone for good! Just keep trying, embrace it, and reach out if you need anything.
@@Nolanwrites I am going slow and low as that seems the best option for my schedule and body/brain. I am tuning into your book, videos and reddit etc to keep me on track. Down to 10 gpd (from up over 30) and 30 days of daily tapering, continuing until I'm ready to jump which will most likely be by end of 2024. Keep up the good work to help support others on this journey as you are appreciated and no one can do this alone!
@@mysticgardener2704I’m at the same spot. I was well over 30g a day and I’m down to 11. I logged my usage, and took 1 less pill per day. I’m at a third of what I was taking and I haven’t had any withdrawal symptoms or negative effects yet. I’m prepared to feel like crap for a few days at some point. But so far so good. Wish me luck
So glad I've found your channel. There really isn't much support out there for Kratom addicts. I've been able to succesfully taper off from heavy use like two times but I always end up caving after a couple months kratom free. One spoonful of powder and I almost instantly go back into full blown addiction.
I really thought I could get away with kratom forever. I let myself get addicted the last 4 months. Was able to take on and off for years with long breaks and no issues. I’m in it deep now and it seemed to of come out of nowhere.
@Mayas.Palace because you can't control yourself. Your blaming a medicinal lherb???? Geezus this page is for dummies. KRATOM = PURE ALKALINE. TOO MUCH OF SOMETHING IS NEVER A GOOD THING. Humans as recently discovered a pure alkaline beings. NIH.gov.
The worst problem for me is that Ive had insomnia well before Kratom and unfortunately, Kratom has been the one thing that allows me to sleep throughout the night. Although it makes it hard to get up. But I have given it up
I just quit all drugs and alcohol cold turkey. Day 16 sober October. I’ve been a daily weed smoker for 15 years. I don’t even care about the weed I want kratom so bad. I actually ordered some so that on November 1st (Friday) I can take some again. Can’t wait.
Very excited to see what you think. Hopefully it helps you and has the information you need. If you're so inclined, if you like the book, leaving a review on Amazon is always welcome and appreciated!
Any advice with the tapering when you aren’t sure how much you take? I went from powder to concentrate and chewables and didn’t really keep track of how much I’ve been taking and now that I’m in a hole financially I’m like oh my, I need to stop. I wake up sweating looking for my drink with concentrate or chewable 😢 ordered the book and watched all the videos already am doing less but feeling flu like symptoms. Took half a chew this morning and am drinking water which is helping from taking more. But not sure what my baseline would be, I was guessing to note what I can handle doing today where I’m not great but not feeling like death while working. Any advice would be amazing. Thanks, and seriously your videos have been so inspiring and informative I can’t wait for the book. I turn 40 Friday and have been using a year and a half and want to live again and not just coast anymore. It’s lovely to see all the strong people going through it and seeing it to the other side ❤ I want to join you all
You have all the makings of someone who is definitely going to be successful. Seems like you genuinely want to stop and have put a ton of effort and thought into it. Kudos to you for your strength, seriously! But it makes me really happy to know my videos have been inspiring and it means a lot that you ordered my book. I hope it helps and I'm excited to hear what you think! In terms of advice: concentrates and chewables are super hard to regulate when it comes to tapering, and I feel for you wanting to reach for it and struggling through the first part of your withdrawals. If it were me, and I didn't have any powder on hand, I would go entirely by feel: based off of the fact that you wake up sweating, you are HEALING and doing so great. The more you feel exactly that way, the more your body is adapting to less kratom. Again, if it were me: try and make it as far as you can into the day without taking anything at all, suffer through work to the best of your ability, and then take it only at night so that you can sleep. It won't be easy, but it'll make it a lot faster and you'll really pat yourself on the back in a weeks time.
Nolan, this is a great post, Sir. 👍 I cycle. I will say, I noticed that making tea and limiting the plant material consumed is better for overall use. Avoided many side effects I saw while doing dry toss and wash. I drink a gallon of fluid with my teas a d that helps alot as well. Goodluck to all trying to better their life habits. ✌
Hi, Can you please explain a bit more? Making tea vs dry - did you use the same amount? Got the same effect? How did you make the tea? Length of brew? No withdrawals from tea or just less? What was your daily dosage? Thank you, your post has very very curious.
@@GDuncs I can't go into detail as advice. There is a video by Botanical Queens that talks about the reasoning behind particulate. Modulation of body systems, elimination pathways(including emotional) and being in an environment that isn't causing you to become dependent on something is all very important. This plant leaf is really not much different than Matcha Green Tea Powder. The cultural significance is met with financial adversity and if we had been in the time of Canabis prohibition they would have steamrolled legislation in and started the oppression immediately.
I had a terrible experience with the PAWS. I was using 75mg/day and it took me 6 months to feel normal again. Not trying to scare anyone, I just wanted to let people know it does get better. I’m close to 1 year clean now and I feel better than I ever did with kratom.
@@Vance82go check out MaliMalz how to quit opiates painlessly. I’m 13 days off right now and tired only. The program that she has put together took away 50-60% of the withdrawals for me. It was horrible when I tried cold turkey. Do it before it destroys your organs and health. I knew something was up a couple years ago when I drank a half a beer and got wasted, but just found out that I had cysts covering my kidneys still waiting to talk to the doctor about what my future looks like.🥴👎🏻good luck my friend
Slow, long taper is the best way off. Depending on your reasons for use will depend on comfortable transition. I have chronic abdominal pain undiagnosed with over 20k in medical tests. They wanted to put me on opiate pharmaceutical pills and an acid blocker (now showing major health issues) . Sometimes there is no answer.
So I was addicted to heroin and whatever mixed been clean for two years. However I'm completely sick of the crippling anxiety since getting clean. I've tried Kratom for a week. Anxiety gone. Now I'm confused on what I should do. Go back to being miserable or use Kratom.??? Advice appreciated
if the struggle with anxiety is not getting any better, in my opinion it is still 1000x better to be taking krtm or maybe try to look for some other natural alternatives rather then anything like herin etc.if you are gonna stick with krtm just make sure to try to keep the doses low and not make them higher and way too frequent and take breaks for tolerance, anyways you have my respect for getting rid of your addictin you are strong
Run as far as you can from Kratom bud if you got a addictive personality because it destroyed my organs, I’ve done everything there is possibly to do in life, but Kratom took me down quicker than anything else. I have cysts covering my kidneys still waiting to hear from the doctor about what my next move is but eventually killed my organs. If you are going to use it, please stay on a low-dose. Don’t keep kicking it up a notch.
I cut down from 5 times a day to 2 twice a day and have feeling super shitty a ll the systems you mentioned, when Is it ok to cut down even more to minimize withdrawal symptoms?
I just posted a video about how to taper and some of the different methods you can use: definitely check out the 'Day Taper' section of the video and it might help!
Praying for you and hope you stuck it out man. You're a beast and even if you have to try again, everythign else in your life will seem like a cake walk after this
@@Nolanwrites thank you man, I did stick out. Monday will be 4 weeks and I'm feeling much better. I promised my wife and brother I would quit so I had no choice.
Hey Patrick: unfortunately, everybody's physiology is so different that it varies from person to person. The odds are that, if you were to use 5g a day consistently for months, that you would most likely have some symptoms (thoguh nowhere near as severe than they would be if you were taking more). Of course, there is no way to truly tell until you take a 48 hours break from it. Hope this helps!
I quit cold turkey in January and a few months ago the pain was bad and I started using again. Only week days during morning but I have to quit again now or ima be fucked again lol. Was using an oz a day previously. Now using 8-12. Today is day 1…again 🫤
@@Nolanwrites almost 2 weeks out and we good. Sleep is a tad weird but withdrawal was only bad 3 days this time. No more for me until the pains outta control. Thanks fam ❤️
Go check out MaliMalz on how to quit opiates painlessly. and took away 50 to 60% of the withdrawal symptoms for me. I’m on about a week and a half and I’m just tired as heck. Try to cold turkey one time before for five days and it was HE double hockey sticks.
Man this is the best breakdown I've heard and I'm going to order your book once I'm done with the physical symptoms. I'm on day 6 right now and I'm feeling better than days 1-5 but still having some shitty symptoms
6 days is absolutely huge, remember to pat yourself on the back. Glad you liked the breakdown! Excited to hear what you think of the book.
@Nolanwrites 3 weeks tomorrow man. 3 weeks totally clean and never going back. I did get the book and am working my way through it, it's got some brilliant stuff in it and I've recommended to loads of people wanting to quit on reddit. Thanks for the support I appreciate. One day at a time
When I’ve stopped I’ve used L Tyrosine during day for energy. Started this amino acid before I stopped Kratom. I used Resful Legs supplement at night for legs. Benadryl at night to sleep. Immodium for diarrhea.
This is a fantastic breakdown. You really did a good job with this video.
Thanks Alexandra!
Day 19 here CT. Feeling infinitely better, but still having some shitty sleep and I can’t seem to shake the brain fog, pressure in my head feeling. Oh that, and trash energy. But I’m proud and I’m not going back. Cool video, pretty spot on. Cheers!
It took me a month to sleep right when I quit cold turkey. Oz a day for a few years.
I remember Days 2 and 3 feeling so insane that all I could do was just laugh. It was just so funny to me I got hooked on something so stupid and it was beating my ass 😂
how are you now??get better.how many day it stop yawning and restless without sleep??
@@mohdpaijam9630 usually after the 1st week the yawning and restlessness will start creeping away. By 2 weeks, you should be back to mostly normal. At that point, it’s more of a psychological issue but that’s for any drug tbh. If you’ve stopped, keep going. It’ll get better I promise. Time moves slow but it catches up fast.
Restless legs are freaking horrendous
Exercise helps, just going back to homeostasis.
@@TheDiversifiedFarmer good advice - find your base line - decrease usage from there. no benefit to quitting cold turkey and tapering is so much easier!
Definitely not dinner and a movie that's for sure
I got a medication for that called Requip a few times and still have it. I was hopeful because I read it's a dopamine agonist, and the addict pseudoscience knowing bit of me thought it had potential. Not sure if it helps or not really it's a strange feeling drug, and I was on a cocktail of other comfort meds being taken at the same time that did more for my rls probably.
Well done. You seem like a really good dude. I appreciate your effort to convey a very helpful message through your personal experiences. (I’m getting ready for sober October).
Cheers.
lenny if you can make it all of october without using kratom but then use it on november 1st, that would be SO dumb
@@guntherwheeler_ 100%
How's it going now bro@@guntherwheeler_
I really appreciate it. The kind words are what makes this worthit. I hope your sober october has been sober and I'm wishing you luck!
Great video. Thanks for providing more resources as well with your book.
Picked up your book and began fast tapering and will slow it down possibly when in single digits. Down to 17 gpd with lots of symptoms. I’ve tried several times but in the past climbed back up. I need support!
You got this! Keep the reason you’re quitting in the front of your mind. The person who has a why can get through any how!!
It's been a few weeks since your comment, but we've all got you, get what you are going through, and I am PERSONALLY rooting for you. If you're back on the kratom train, your life is going to be so much better without kratom in it, and I want you to be able to come back to this comments section and tell us all that you did it and it's gone for good! Just keep trying, embrace it, and reach out if you need anything.
@@Nolanwrites I am going slow and low as that seems the best option for my schedule and body/brain. I am tuning into your book, videos and reddit etc to keep me on track. Down to 10 gpd (from up over 30) and 30 days of daily tapering, continuing until I'm ready to jump which will most likely be by end of 2024.
Keep up the good work to help support others on this journey as you are appreciated and no one can do this alone!
@@mysticgardener2704I’m at the same spot. I was well over 30g a day and I’m down to 11. I logged my usage, and took 1 less pill per day. I’m at a third of what I was taking and I haven’t had any withdrawal symptoms or negative effects yet. I’m prepared to feel like crap for a few days at some point. But so far so good. Wish me luck
So glad I've found your channel. There really isn't much support out there for Kratom addicts. I've been able to succesfully taper off from heavy use like two times but I always end up caving after a couple months kratom free. One spoonful of powder and I almost instantly go back into full blown addiction.
there is a website i found that helps with all things related to kratom. its called QuitK . com also love his resources above!
Kratom is a nasty one and I'm glad these videos are helping you. Stay strong, and I hope you can kick this stuff for good!
This
I really thought I could get away with kratom forever. I let myself get addicted the last 4 months. Was able to take on and off for years with long breaks and no issues. I’m in it deep now and it seemed to of come out of nowhere.
I’m spending hundreds of dollars a month on extract shots. Shit has got to stop. Your videos have come at the right time bra!
I think I've found the cheapest alternative to taper without the powder @@Mayas.Palace
@Mayas.Palace because you can't control yourself. Your blaming a medicinal lherb???? Geezus this page is for dummies. KRATOM = PURE ALKALINE. TOO MUCH OF SOMETHING IS NEVER A GOOD THING. Humans as recently discovered a pure alkaline beings. NIH.gov.
The worst problem for me is that Ive had insomnia well before Kratom and unfortunately, Kratom has been the one thing that allows me to sleep throughout the night. Although it makes it hard to get up. But I have given it up
I just quit all drugs and alcohol cold turkey. Day 16 sober October. I’ve been a daily weed smoker for 15 years. I don’t even care about the weed I want kratom so bad. I actually ordered some so that on November 1st (Friday) I can take some again. Can’t wait.
Just bought the book. I look forward to reading it.
Very excited to see what you think. Hopefully it helps you and has the information you need. If you're so inclined, if you like the book, leaving a review on Amazon is always welcome and appreciated!
Any advice with the tapering when you aren’t sure how much you take? I went from powder to concentrate and chewables and didn’t really keep track of how much I’ve been taking and now that I’m in a hole financially I’m like oh my, I need to stop. I wake up sweating looking for my drink with concentrate or chewable 😢 ordered the book and watched all the videos already am doing less but feeling flu like symptoms. Took half a chew this morning and am drinking water which is helping from taking more. But not sure what my baseline would be, I was guessing to note what I can handle doing today where I’m not great but not feeling like death while working. Any advice would be amazing. Thanks, and seriously your videos have been so inspiring and informative I can’t wait for the book. I turn 40 Friday and have been using a year and a half and want to live again and not just coast anymore. It’s lovely to see all the strong people going through it and seeing it to the other side ❤ I want to join you all
You have all the makings of someone who is definitely going to be successful. Seems like you genuinely want to stop and have put a ton of effort and thought into it. Kudos to you for your strength, seriously! But it makes me really happy to know my videos have been inspiring and it means a lot that you ordered my book. I hope it helps and I'm excited to hear what you think! In terms of advice: concentrates and chewables are super hard to regulate when it comes to tapering, and I feel for you wanting to reach for it and struggling through the first part of your withdrawals. If it were me, and I didn't have any powder on hand, I would go entirely by feel: based off of the fact that you wake up sweating, you are HEALING and doing so great. The more you feel exactly that way, the more your body is adapting to less kratom. Again, if it were me: try and make it as far as you can into the day without taking anything at all, suffer through work to the best of your ability, and then take it only at night so that you can sleep. It won't be easy, but it'll make it a lot faster and you'll really pat yourself on the back in a weeks time.
Epsom salts. Restless legs. Take magnesium. Magnesium citrate will help with the stone stool syndrome.
Nolan, this is a great post, Sir. 👍
I cycle.
I will say, I noticed that making tea and limiting the plant material consumed is better for overall use.
Avoided many side effects I saw while doing dry toss and wash.
I drink a gallon of fluid with my teas a d that helps alot as well.
Goodluck to all trying to better their life habits. ✌
Hi,
Can you please explain a bit more?
Making tea vs dry - did you use the same amount? Got the same effect?
How did you make the tea? Length of brew?
No withdrawals from tea or just less?
What was your daily dosage?
Thank you, your post has very very curious.
@@GDuncs I can't go into detail as advice.
There is a video by Botanical Queens that talks about the reasoning behind particulate.
Modulation of body systems, elimination pathways(including emotional) and being in an environment that isn't causing you to become dependent on something is all very important.
This plant leaf is really not much different than Matcha Green Tea Powder.
The cultural significance is met with financial adversity and if we had been in the time of Canabis prohibition they would have steamrolled legislation in and started the oppression immediately.
A magnesium supplement or spray can help with restless legs.
I had a terrible experience with the PAWS. I was using 75mg/day and it took me 6 months to feel normal again. Not trying to scare anyone, I just wanted to let people know it does get better. I’m close to 1 year clean now and I feel better than I ever did with kratom.
Incredible
Do you mean 75 grams per day?
Please help me!
@@Vance82go check out MaliMalz how to quit opiates painlessly. I’m 13 days off right now and tired only. The program that she has put together took away 50-60% of the withdrawals for me. It was horrible when I tried cold turkey. Do it before it destroys your organs and health. I knew something was up a couple years ago when I drank a half a beer and got wasted, but just found out that I had cysts covering my kidneys still waiting to talk to the doctor about what my future looks like.🥴👎🏻good luck my friend
@@Vance82hey vance, we can quit this!
Slow, long taper is the best way off.
Depending on your reasons for use will depend on comfortable transition.
I have chronic abdominal pain undiagnosed with over 20k in medical tests. They wanted to put me on opiate pharmaceutical pills and an acid blocker (now showing major health issues) .
Sometimes there is no answer.
So I was addicted to heroin and whatever mixed been clean for two years. However I'm completely sick of the crippling anxiety since getting clean. I've tried Kratom for a week. Anxiety gone. Now I'm confused on what I should do. Go back to being miserable or use Kratom.??? Advice appreciated
if the struggle with anxiety is not getting any better, in my opinion it is still 1000x better to be taking krtm or maybe try to look for some other natural alternatives rather then anything like herin etc.if you are gonna stick with krtm just make sure to try to keep the doses low and not make them higher and way too frequent and take breaks for tolerance, anyways you have my respect for getting rid of your addictin you are strong
Run as far as you can from Kratom bud if you got a addictive personality because it destroyed my organs, I’ve done everything there is possibly to do in life, but Kratom took me down quicker than anything else. I have cysts covering my kidneys still waiting to hear from the doctor about what my next move is but eventually killed my organs. If you are going to use it, please stay on a low-dose. Don’t keep kicking it up a notch.
Consider beta blockers from the doctor
Kava kava and coffee gets you through RLS.
Also staying moving.
Still all better than Coffee headache.
I cut down from 5 times a day to 2 twice a day and have feeling super shitty a ll the systems you mentioned, when Is it ok to cut down even more to minimize withdrawal symptoms?
I just posted a video about how to taper and some of the different methods you can use: definitely check out the 'Day Taper' section of the video and it might help!
Did you do a taper plan first and what did that look like?
I’m on 3 weeks kratom free and my withdrawals lasted 7-10 days. Acute lasted 4 days
Proud of ya
honestly i took some kratom for about two weeks and stopped because i was feeling anhedonia and depersonalization..... shits garbage
On day 5 ct My rls feels like blood pooling up in my legs then tingly and electric zaps. Pray for me guys. Going through it
Praying for you and hope you stuck it out man. You're a beast and even if you have to try again, everythign else in your life will seem like a cake walk after this
@@Nolanwrites thank you man, I did stick out. Monday will be 4 weeks and I'm feeling much better. I promised my wife and brother I would quit so I had no choice.
4 years daily use
Do you have any hair left??
Does someone who takes about 5g a day have these symptoms?
Hey Patrick: unfortunately, everybody's physiology is so different that it varies from person to person. The odds are that, if you were to use 5g a day consistently for months, that you would most likely have some symptoms (thoguh nowhere near as severe than they would be if you were taking more). Of course, there is no way to truly tell until you take a 48 hours break from it. Hope this helps!
Nah fam nowhere near the same as 14+ in my experience
@@BirdieBlrrrd thank you. What is 14+?
@@patrickfujimoto1608 14+ grams per day
That's around how much I do... wds are bearable but I haven't tried it yet
😅
Is everybody taking this everyday?
Some of us take it 2-4 times a day in large doses. Some also use extracts.
Unfortunately yeah
But 4 grams I feel good with it. And no wd in the morning
@@kennys9644 I have been taking once every week sometimes two weeks. I couldn’t imagine taking it everyday.
What this isn’t her ion
I quit cold turkey in January and a few months ago the pain was bad and I started using again. Only week days during morning but I have to quit again now or ima be fucked again lol. Was using an oz a day previously. Now using 8-12.
Today is day 1…again 🫤
You've got this!
@@Nolanwrites almost 2 weeks out and we good. Sleep is a tad weird but withdrawal was only bad 3 days this time. No more for me until the pains outta control.
Thanks fam ❤️
Go check out MaliMalz on how to quit opiates painlessly. and took away 50 to 60% of the withdrawal symptoms for me. I’m on about a week and a half and I’m just tired as heck. Try to cold turkey one time before for five days and it was HE double hockey sticks.