I absolutely love my mt09 sp! I’ve had the bike for 3 days now and already have 700miles on it. Hit 600 miles in 48hours :) I couldn’t get enough of it! Everything was in check during my first maintenance besides the chain which was to be expected, had to tighten it a touch, and oil change of course. Manual states for break in 0-600miles (1000km) to avoid prolonged operation above 5300rpms and 6300rpms from 600-1000miles (1000-1600km) so with that said… drive it like you’re going to normally drive it, just avoid WOT for more than 20 seconds. My only complaints is second gear is so painful till 6k rpms, needs a tune. And if I get really picky I could say the QS between first and second decided to not work twice, but was during WOT acceleration so I’m sure there was some operator error there lol. But other wise this QS is the shit at a solid 10/10 can’t beat it. Fantastic bike again. I would highly recommend getting one if you’re on the fence.
It’s the inevitable minute metal shavings that are sheered off during break-in, why manufacturer recommend a certain rpm range. Engines are tested to much higher rpm in the factory prior to being installed , but, that’s not real world conditions with a load on the frame, load on the chain, pot holes, sudden bursts of high rpm and engine braking by a meat suit pilot 😅 The engine doesn’t ‘learn’ anything about your riding style. Electronics can. It’s not true that if you stick to the manufacturers guidelines for first 1000km that the engine won’t perform as well after. My SFV4s certainly runs to full capacity (on private tracks of course) and I didn’t once go over 8k rpm for first 1000. It redlines 15k to 16k rpm for reference. You’re correct that gong over a little isn’t going to do any damage. It’s just at higher rpm during that period there are little fragments floating around. Manufacturers are covering their asses incase you damage anything.
Just a clarification, 2nd gen MT09s do have ride by wire throttle, which is why you can fit a blipper to them. Yamaha just opted to keep the old style throttle grip and cables to operate the APS (accelerator position sensor). You'll find that the cables go to the APS on the throttlebodies, but don't open the throttle butterflies with the engine off. Had a 2019 MT09SP with woolich race tools. Sold it on sadly. My biggest gripe with the 18-21 models is the 14 litre fuel tank, and the front forks while fully adjustable, actually need springs and compression valving changes out of the box. Crappy dual rate springs, compression damping way too stiff for a lightweight like me.
I tried it out a few days ago. For me it definitely needs the comfort seat (standard seat has pressure points right at the sciatica nerve---Painful) and a windscreen.
After a Pro-tune along with a full exhaust system swap it transforms into an entirely different beast - without the factory limitations and optimized fuelling 😅🔥🏁
I have the infamous MT07 but Im a really tall and big rider so Im thinking about upgrading to one of those next year, I feel my 07 is a bit underpowered for my size do you think I should go for the 09 SP or the 10? :D
Ride by wire and cable throttles are completely different. The first is linked to your ECU which allows for multiple riding aids and a quick shifter that can auto blip going down the gearbox. The older style cable throttles can provide some features however the main one is a more direct to engine feedback. Glad you’re enjoying your new bike. Was expecting a bit more based on the title instead of wheelie information and brake lights.
Cycle News says that 70% rpm, 70% load, and 70% throttle for relatively brief bursts and then let off throttle is great for the precess. Ride normal for a while again and then, repeat. Let the bike cool down and then keep repeating this process over and over until you are through the break-in period. Don't abuse the bike but, definitely don't baby it either.
@@INFAMAS yeah I just rode home from work and used it. It was smoother than I can change manually. Coming from a Harley to an MT is extremely foreign lol
Hi bro, I want to buy a mt09 sp and I am tall like you (I’m 6,2’ tall). When i got on in the store, i see that my knee was rubbing against an edge of the side plastic tank cover...will raising the footpeg be able to correct that? Another question, driving with traffic through the city does it get very hot and does the hot air in your legs? thank you! wonderful machine😃!
I don't think it gets too hot, though i haven't rode it in summer yet! As for the legs. Raising the footpegs will only bring your knees up higher. Hope that helps!
I’m 6’4 and at that height every bike is small. Unless you get something like an Africa twin. I have 21 mt09 and a 24 mt09 sp and while small like every other sport bike I absolutely love it. I have owned around 20 different bikes from just about every major manufacturer and the mt09 just speaks to my soul.
I'd play around with the LIF control settings to get used to the wheel coming up. But if you want to clutch up properly you'll need to turn it all off otherwise the TCS will drop the wheel on you.
I've been thinking of buying a 765rs or a gen4 mt09 (base), both are almost the same price (in Costa Rica) I'll be using the bike as an daily driver and the roads here are not that good, because of that I'm leaning towards the mt a bit more because of the softer suspension, but the triumph has a 3 year warranty without a limit of miles (don't know if an exhaust fucks the warranty, if so i won'tget it), it will be aswell my 1st ever big bike, im coming from a 450, I've heard that if i start in the 765rs I'll get spoiled with the nicer suspensión and nicer breaks that i won't even use to their 60% capability The Mt what i don't like is the prices is listed at, the same or almost the same as the steet triple which is a better bike all around, just concerned about reability for being a daily driver doing around 13k miles a year (or more) Have you tried the triumph?
I have ridden and own euro & jap bikes and for reliability wise I would lean towards Japanese for my taste. If you don't mind spending more then Euro bikes. Depends your lifestyle, workshops and dealership.
Well I had KTM Super Duke, later jump on Honda cb1000, and said on first highway, whata hell?! No power xd...same I think mt10.vs mt 09. Just wonder that Agile and light weight. And also was testing with this engine tracer 900....was horrible...no power at all..
I have 1200 kilometres with this bike I think you’re wright the bike needs a tune 2nd and 3rd gear are not torquey enough for me I come from mt 07 I also notice the chain is noisy and the engine makes a weird sound sometimes in almost every gear from 2 to 5000 rpm the dealership told me this is normal they can’t fix it it’s something about cylinder timing other than I love the bike and the brakes are amazing.
...sounds like it's a lemon. The engine should not make "a weird sound." There is no such thing as "cylinder timing." There is ignition timing, and that doesn't make weird noises.
He's right. This engine does have louder cam chain noises than a lot of bikes also a slight tick sometimes. Heard it from a few people. It's completely normal.
Mt-10 is a lot more of a touring bike and it's a lot bigger and heavier. I sat on one at the dealer and I just did not find it comfortable but it's personal preference
@@jackofalltrades1582having owned both an mt-09 and a brand new mt-10 I have to say that is perception only, and not how the bike actually rides. Everything about the mt-10 is better than the mt-09 in my experience. It’s more aggressive, more agile, better with a passenger, better in the wet, better on the track, a far better bike overall.
@@Snotroggel453I agree, the mt-09 is a lot less powerful than the mt-10 and has more street/beginner-friendly power delivery than the mt-10 because of that. But it is not a better bike overall.
I absolutely love my mt09 sp! I’ve had the bike for 3 days now and already have 700miles on it. Hit 600 miles in 48hours :) I couldn’t get enough of it! Everything was in check during my first maintenance besides the chain which was to be expected, had to tighten it a touch, and oil change of course. Manual states for break in 0-600miles (1000km) to avoid prolonged operation above 5300rpms and 6300rpms from 600-1000miles (1000-1600km) so with that said… drive it like you’re going to normally drive it, just avoid WOT for more than 20 seconds. My only complaints is second gear is so painful till 6k rpms, needs a tune. And if I get really picky I could say the QS between first and second decided to not work twice, but was during WOT acceleration so I’m sure there was some operator error there lol. But other wise this QS is the shit at a solid 10/10 can’t beat it. Fantastic bike again. I would highly recommend getting one if you’re on the fence.
It’s the inevitable minute metal shavings that are sheered off during break-in, why manufacturer recommend a certain rpm range. Engines are tested to much higher rpm in the factory prior to being installed , but, that’s not real world conditions with a load on the frame, load on the chain, pot holes, sudden bursts of high rpm and engine braking by a meat suit pilot 😅
The engine doesn’t ‘learn’ anything about your riding style. Electronics can. It’s not true that if you stick to the manufacturers guidelines for first 1000km that the engine won’t perform as well after.
My SFV4s certainly runs to full capacity (on private tracks of course) and I didn’t once go over 8k rpm for first 1000. It redlines 15k to 16k rpm for reference.
You’re correct that gong over a little isn’t going to do any damage.
It’s just at higher rpm during that period there are little fragments floating around. Manufacturers are covering their asses incase you damage anything.
Just a clarification, 2nd gen MT09s do have ride by wire throttle, which is why you can fit a blipper to them. Yamaha just opted to keep the old style throttle grip and cables to operate the APS (accelerator position sensor). You'll find that the cables go to the APS on the throttlebodies, but don't open the throttle butterflies with the engine off. Had a 2019 MT09SP with woolich race tools. Sold it on sadly. My biggest gripe with the 18-21 models is the 14 litre fuel tank, and the front forks while fully adjustable, actually need springs and compression valving changes out of the box. Crappy dual rate springs, compression damping way too stiff for a lightweight like me.
I had a blipper and auto warm up on my Gen 2
I love how u do ur videos. Short fast, to the point. Keep going, u doing great
And i love this bike
Thank you!!
I tried it out a few days ago. For me it definitely needs the comfort seat (standard seat has pressure points right at the sciatica nerve---Painful) and a windscreen.
After a Pro-tune along with a full exhaust system swap it transforms into an entirely different beast - without the factory limitations and optimized fuelling 😅🔥🏁
@@SirMountainpass yeah don’t want that factory optimised fuelling
Where you buy the mirrors?
I have the infamous MT07 but Im a really tall and big rider so Im thinking about upgrading to one of those next year, I feel my 07 is a bit underpowered for my size do you think I should go for the 09 SP or the 10? :D
Man, I would love to try the gen 4 MT09. Jumping up from the first gen to the fourth gen will be like night and day!
Should definitely try it!
Ride by wire and cable throttles are completely different. The first is linked to your ECU which allows for multiple riding aids and a quick shifter that can auto blip going down the gearbox. The older style cable throttles can provide some features however the main one is a more direct to engine feedback. Glad you’re enjoying your new bike. Was expecting a bit more based on the title instead of wheelie information and brake lights.
Yeah I couldn't remember exactly which one it was. Definitely ride by wire on the previous MT of mine.
good vid. Looking for bar end mirrors for my 24 SP. Which mirrors are you using? Do you have a link where you bought?
Thank you.
Cycle News says that 70% rpm, 70% load, and 70% throttle for relatively brief bursts and then let off throttle is great for the precess. Ride normal for a while again and then, repeat. Let the bike cool down and then keep repeating this process over and over until you are through the break-in period. Don't abuse the bike but, definitely don't baby it either.
1:00 The V4 tune is much better giving a smoother throttle & quick shifter 💯
Hey buddy whats your height? Im 6 foot and wondering if the bike is too small for me.
Do you use the quick shifter going up from 1st to 2nd gear? I’ve heard from some people not to do that, but they do own the last gen
I do
@@INFAMAS yeah I just rode home from work and used it. It was smoother than I can change manually. Coming from a Harley to an MT is extremely foreign lol
I use the clutch from first to second but I think it's more of a personal preference since there's no harm using the QS from first to second.
The stock mirrors vibrate so much on this bike that above 3k rpm you can't see anything in them, are bar ends any better?
Are they STILL working on the Royal?
I moved to NSW two years ago and it was being worked on then.
Hi bro, I want to buy a mt09 sp and I am tall like you (I’m 6,2’ tall). When i got on in the store, i see that my knee was rubbing against an edge of the side plastic tank cover...will raising the footpeg be able to correct that?
Another question, driving with traffic through the city does it get very hot and does the hot air in your legs?
thank you! wonderful machine😃!
I don't think it gets too hot, though i haven't rode it in summer yet!
As for the legs. Raising the footpegs will only bring your knees up higher.
Hope that helps!
what mirrors is that on the bike =?
How much was the first service? $$
Can I ask about the bike size or more like fit? I'm 6.4 and my most tried nakeds were small
I’m 6’4 and at that height every bike is small. Unless you get something like an Africa twin. I have 21 mt09 and a 24 mt09 sp and while small like every other sport bike I absolutely love it. I have owned around 20 different bikes from just about every major manufacturer and the mt09 just speaks to my soul.
Should o get the regular or sp
Is it worth the extra upgrades!? Im 5050
Check out my video about if the SP is worth it!
Im about to change oil and service, i just hit 4700miles
I enjoy my 2017 MT09. But have to sell it. Need the $$$
5:01 If I am a newbie in wheel stunts, which setting should I use on this mt09sp so that I can do it without raising the front wheel too high?
I'd play around with the LIF control settings to get used to the wheel coming up. But if you want to clutch up properly you'll need to turn it all off otherwise the TCS will drop the wheel on you.
I've been thinking of buying a 765rs or a gen4 mt09 (base), both are almost the same price (in Costa Rica) I'll be using the bike as an daily driver and the roads here are not that good, because of that I'm leaning towards the mt a bit more because of the softer suspension, but the triumph has a 3 year warranty without a limit of miles (don't know if an exhaust fucks the warranty, if so i won'tget it), it will be aswell my 1st ever big bike, im coming from a 450,
I've heard that if i start in the 765rs I'll get spoiled with the nicer suspensión and nicer breaks that i won't even use to their 60% capability
The Mt what i don't like is the prices is listed at, the same or almost the same as the steet triple which is a better bike all around, just concerned about reability for being a daily driver doing around 13k miles a year (or more)
Have you tried the triumph?
Don't buy a Triumph. Their "warranty" is "if it can leave the dealership under its own power, it's fine."
I have ridden and own euro & jap bikes and for reliability wise I would lean towards Japanese for my taste. If you don't mind spending more then Euro bikes. Depends your lifestyle, workshops and dealership.
What Mirrors do you have and is it stock exhaust? 😊
Stock exhaust for now. Fake Arrow CRG mirrors
@@INFAMAS where did u buy bro? Ali?
Well I had KTM Super Duke, later jump on Honda cb1000, and said on first highway, whata hell?! No power xd...same I think mt10.vs mt 09. Just wonder that Agile and light weight. And also was testing with this engine tracer 900....was horrible...no power at all..
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I have 1200 kilometres with this bike I think you’re wright the bike needs a tune 2nd and 3rd gear are not torquey enough for me I come from mt 07 I also notice the chain is noisy and the engine makes a weird sound sometimes in almost every gear from 2 to 5000 rpm the dealership told me this is normal they can’t fix it it’s something about cylinder timing other than I love the bike and the brakes are amazing.
Same here. Chain is a bit loud and the engine makes a slight tick. But a new exhaust will cover that up hahaha
...sounds like it's a lemon. The engine should not make "a weird sound."
There is no such thing as "cylinder timing." There is ignition timing, and that doesn't make weird noises.
He's right. This engine does have louder cam chain noises than a lot of bikes also a slight tick sometimes. Heard it from a few people. It's completely normal.
Every bike needs a tune in my opinion. To many restrictions from factory.
Is there specific kinds of tunes ? I’m getting a 24 mt09 sp this month and want to tune it
I already have 1600 :)
Congrats!!
Why u not get mt-10. Is mt-09sp better then mt-10
Mt-10 is a lot more of a touring bike and it's a lot bigger and heavier. I sat on one at the dealer and I just did not find it comfortable but it's personal preference
Mt09 is more playful to hoon around with you can use all of its power at almost all times..
@@jackofalltrades1582having owned both an mt-09 and a brand new mt-10 I have to say that is perception only, and not how the bike actually rides. Everything about the mt-10 is better than the mt-09 in my experience. It’s more aggressive, more agile, better with a passenger, better in the wet, better on the track, a far better bike overall.
@@Snotroggel453I agree, the mt-09 is a lot less powerful than the mt-10 and has more street/beginner-friendly power delivery than the mt-10 because of that. But it is not a better bike overall.
Cheaper
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