Although the Incinolet is awesome and my personal choice for my tiny house, there are other options that make sense in a tiny house setup. Check out this video to see what other options are out there: ruclips.net/video/kIhGTT_uj9k/видео.html Thanks for checking out this video and my channel.
We are debating to add a propane style to our Incinolet. I had thought to attempt a gasifier to supply the gas inlet on the propane style toilet. A lot of thinking to happen before we make any decisions on purchasing one. Hoping to find one used on Craiglist or Marketplace to test out the theory of it all.
@@americanearthling9671You anit doing the environment or your money’s any justice with these.. needs electricity plus 400 of the liners are $55. Runs for an hour, plus super high price tag= upside down investment bust Look at much better options
@@peckerpeter2078 that didn’t answer my question. I wasn’t asking for cost. Liners could be made at home. My question didn’t ask about greenhouse gases either. I just wanted to budget energy consumption. But thanks anyway
@@americanearthling9671 You conveniently skipped over the electricity consumption part and running for over an hour. You Wanted to know how much it will cost per flush lol 😂 It’s a bust you wanna spend $4000 + and then pay electricity fees go for it..
We have had an Incinolet toilet for 9 months - the very basic model. Items that they shared in this video that differ from our experience... We have to empty the ash tray after one day's use for 1-2 people or it doesn't fully burn the waste, which is really gross and not as advertised. Also, there will be a "burning pee" smell outside where it vents and if you're down wind of it, you'll wonder what the funky smell is. We feel when the unit is burning/working it's loud, louder than anticipated. We took to heart the reviews on Incinolet's website and were very excited to get one of these for our lake place, because there wasn't an indoor bathroom and this was much more cost effective than installing septic, but now we're looking into septic. This product just isn't operating as hoped - the not fully burning everything and pulling a pan that isn't all ash has been difficult to handle. Also, we were disappointed that when we reached out to the company about this issue, we got no response back. Also, we can't leave a review on their site - reviews are only by invitation only, it seems!
Hmm. That's not been my experience at all. Is it possible that your toilet's internal temp setting is too low? I saw that when I did a deep clean on the toilet that there is a dial in the toilet that adjust the temp it runs at. Also, are you running the vent tube up high or just out at ground level? If you are bothered by any scents, I would recommend that you vent the exhaust tube up towards the roof line. Check out my deep clean video here to see what I'm talking about regarding the temperature setting: ruclips.net/video/AxGRLBDStFo/видео.html
The unit is really designed to empty the ash bowl every day, but check the manual on how to set the temperature and burn time, they may be set incorrectly. If you are still getting incomplete burns, increase the burn time from 1 to 1.5 hours. Also the manual details how the unit uses a catalyst to remove odor from the exhaust. The catalyst works after it heats up, so you might try starting the burn cycle when you first arrive at the toilet to let it heat up some and then press start again to reset the cycle after pressing the foot pedal to dump the contents. Good luck.
It appears to be a venting issue, if the vents is plugged,unproperly installed or too narrow, then it will not evaporate liquids properly and one will see chunks instead of dust.
Yes, the biggest drawback is the odor! We had one in our floating home for 20 years. The smell always bothered me. We had a composting toilet previously and with a woman in the house it wouldn’t compost fast enough !
Bought one at a yard sale several years ago for only $250! Had never even heard of them before, just took a chance. It appears everything is there & it seems it will be very easy to install once the micro-cabin is finished. Thanks for the tips!
Yup, can use it while it's burning the previous usage in the burn chamber. Toilet just emits the humming sound of the vent fan extracting smoke to the outside. It's a great toilet solution. What is your particular implementation that you are looking to use one of these in?
@@TinyIndustrial Why not just wait to "run the cycle after there's more sh*t collected in it?" I mean....everything in this life...comes down to cost and money.
I’m just tossing out ideas; but maybe increased volumes of unburnt waste might cause incomplete burns, when you activate the burn process later... sort of similar to what would happen if you tried to broil a 4” thick steak, as opposed to a more normal 1” thick steak, in an oven. The outside would be burnt to a crisp; but the inside might still be raw. Another thing is that, if you don’t burn the waste immediately, the foul odors (which none of us enjoy) might begin to run rampant.
Well I'm glad it was helpful. It's worked great for my situation and purposes. Very happy with my choice (still...years later). You have more of a tiny house or more of a standard RV as a 5th wheel?
@@pressureflipin1992 41'!!! Damn. That's a big tiny house for sure. I think a 36 footer is the largest I've seen. You need something like a F-650 or similar to tow that, no?
Great video. Our outhouse service is going away so we are considering this product. $2000 may seem high, but I think the price is far less than installing a septic system, especially when our cabin is on a large hillside. Thanks for this great video. I have been skeptical about this product, but this really looks good.
Yes, it's a great septic alternative for sure. Especially true if you live in a tricky spot where septic is even more difficult and cumbersome (expensive) to install. This toilet has performed better than expected and I definitely highly recommend it. My assumption is that you have easy access to electricity?
Also helps if you are trying to conserve ground water being aquifer levels. I’m considering buying one for a 5th wheel camp site rec center so no septic and no crapping with coyotes 😂. However, @TinyIndustrial I have a good question: If you run out of paper liners could you us Junk Mail and old Bills to crap on and burn? If so, there are a whole bunch of Politicians I want to make printed copies of so I can Delicate on their face and then burn it 😂. Just kidding, my days of urinal target practice jokes are long over but Bills and Junk Mail I have plenty of to burn. Could you try this out for me and see if it works? I’m very interested. Also, could you run this off a 50amp service if you wanted one in your RV as well or running a camp site off 50 amp service? Thanks for your time.
Propane or hydrogen could be a much quicker burn. But man for 2000 bucks it by far beats the price of the newest model out at 15,000. The new ones have only a 15 min burn. I guess burn time shouldn’t be that much of an issue if a person can go and another person can go while the other one’s burning and they can drop it in the mist of the burn so other person can go etc. I’m sure this isn’t possible but it would be cool if it was.
@@EmpoweredPercussion from my research, another person can use it immediately after someone else did, you just have to restart the cycle, and you may have to possibly run a 2nd cycle due to the additional "load" size.
You mean the draft from it pulling air out of the structure and that creating a draft somewhere else? If so, yeah, it does do that. I usually minimally open a window in the bathroom for it to draw air in.
@@TinyIndustrial thats some true vid dedication to answering everyone when you decide to answer the person who wants to give you details on their day to day of their bowels. I salute you, but not them for sharing their unnecessary comment.
For apartments or on the road rv,trailer or van life I think this this is best option but for a house with a good amount of yard space I prefer the compost method.
At the end of the day, it's partly your environment and it's a personal preference thing. I totally get that some folks prefer a composting toilet. This toilet was right for ME though and I've been very happy with it. Thanks for the comment!
Yes, definitely. You and use it and not flush...then use it again later and then flush. That works fine for wizzes. Cuts the electricity usage in half that way. :)
Yes, sorry. Didn't think that people would find that interesting. Maybe I misjudged the interest. Apparently "Off Grid Philosophy" shows that in their video.
Thanks Kevin! It's a great product that has provided me with many problem free years of operation. That's exciting that you are working on a new model. Would be happy to review. Do you have a timeline for when it is likely to be released? What are the main features/changes to the existing Incinolets?
They're great, as long as you've got mains power or another way to feed it a full kilowatt hour for every burn. If there's ANY unburned ash, either the thermostat is defective, or your use requires increasing the burn time, which is adjustable. Could also be an exhaust constriction, or if there's a bathroom exhaust fan, it will fight against the fan in the Incinolet. You need positive air flow into the bathroom.
I think that it's lower than that since once it hits temp, it just cycles. Much like an oven does. Initial usage high and then it tapers while cycling through the remainder of the burn/flush cycle.
If you found a power meter that fits into that outlet you could. I uses one of those single outlets that has the sideways slot. I have no idea what they are called. It would be easier to run the toilet and nothing else and see what happens right at the power meter level. That's how I would approach it.
I found that (where I live) rust can develop on the fan since the heating and cooling effects taking place in the toilet can cause condensation (leading to rust). That said, I have had very minimal maintenance issues aside from cleaning the toilet on a regular basis.. I have heard of heating coils going bad and that type of thing, but it's pretty rare and the toilet is VERY well made and constructed.
Wait so it requires an exhaust even though your model is fully electrically powered? What about the propane gas/electric hybrid models? Do those require multiple vents? I'd imagine they're harder to install and you'd have to procure a second utility resource but it would be interesting to compare how much more efficient a gas burning model could be.
Right, the exhaust is what expels the smoke from the burn process out of your structure. Think of it as doing what your range hood does over your stove. Incinolet I think used to make a propane model, but they don't anymore. I know that there is some company that I think still does do a propane version. If they send me one of their toilets, I'd be happy to test it out. :)
Thanks for this and I have 2 questions please. 1. How often should I turn it on? Per single use or every so often? 2. How often do I need to empty it? Thanks!
Hi, thanks for the comment and the questions. 1) If you just pee into it, you can use it twice before 'flushing' and running a burn cycle. Everything else, I would suggest you flush every time. 2) Emptying it depends on amount of usage. I would suggest emptying it every 10 flushes or so. That could be 3 days or two weeks. if you only spend part of your time at the location where the toilet is. Depends how long it takes you to use it 10 or so times. Make sense?
Cost of Electric toilet vs. water toilet on a monthly basis, Electric bill vs. Water bill. I am interested to know the difference between traditional vs. electric. Is there any cost savings either way?
Water toilet would likely be cheaper. It's not so much about cost to operate. Rather it comes down to what you have available to you that will determine what kind of toilet makes sense in a given scenario. An incinerating toilet makes a lot of sense if you don't have running water but have an electricity source. Even if an electric toilet might be more expensive to acquire and operate. Know what I mean?
I think they have a propane option. Kind of a bulky and cumbersome thing to have in a van too. You would have to install it on rails with a flexible vent tube or similar. Likely not your best option. How far along in the van build are you?
@@TinyIndustrial I’m still at the sketching and research phase. I’ve been binge watching tons of videos on which toilet is the best. And I can say that your video is the most informative
I'm looking at options for a tiny house on land that I own, and it is well water out here that requires an electric pump, now im wondering on the energy comparison of this burning vs the energy used from the electric water pump to fill the toilet up. I d9nt know how you wouod even test it.
Put a plastic bag in your traditional toilet, add some peat moss, take a dump, tie it up, and dispose as trash. Pee into your black tank only. Drain into a bucket, pour on trees in nature as urea fertilizer. Not on Redwoods or Sequoia. Done.
@@lass-inangeles7564 pouring pee on ur trees and such with taint ur soil which is a question for the health department in ur county. E coli is a big problem with sewage now a days
Great video. So in the case that people are in a cabin bigger than a tiny cabin and many people have to go at once, perhaps there is a better design? I’m thinking if people go and they do the flush; the paper could slide out of the unit into a outdoor incinerator near by. It could be much bigger and burn much hotter with propane or another alternative gas. The military must have invented something like this?
Yes, there is likely a better way or at a minimum a different model/mechanism to suit a larger group of people/users. Part of the appeal though is that the whole thing is self contained and that you 'can' travel with it as long as you wind up somewhere where you have a source of power.
Nice. At the present, I'm almost totally off-grid. If I ever get into a sticks & bricks scenario (ya never know), I'd consider it a worthwhile investment. Thanks, Chris! Your daughter is adorable. 😃
Ah, yes, and off grid scenario does not work for this kind of toilet (unless you want to buy a lot of very expensive solar equipment). So, are you using a composting toilet at the moment?
Yes. It's kind of a Luggable Loo deal, using an RV commode with a liner instead of a bucket. I use cedar chips or equine bedding ($5.99/40 lbs) as the compost.
But what if you lived in say, a shed. 10x20. And had a dedicated solar panel system for it, or maybe a generator? It is expensive but man, imagining it seems like such a payout.
So those come in 120v and 240v variants. The 120v model uses 2000 watts and the 240 uses 3500 watts. Is it always a 90 minute cycle time? If one went with the 120v model that would use 3kwh on a 90 minute cycle. Totally doable for me in the summer with my 8 kw of solar panels but I don't know about during the winter with the short and overcast days. Don't want to run my battery bank out for when my fridge needs to run or I need to cook or bake something on the electric range.
That sounds about right. Right. Solar with this might not be the best solution...unless it's the only solution. In that case it can be made to work but requires some pretty heavy investment in panels and batteries as you were able to figure out. What's your scenario?
I do not have a backup source of power. If the power goes out that can be a problem. Would have to head into town and use a public toilet or similar. Really bad is when the power goes out during the burn cycle since it stops venting to the outside and can lead to a smoke situation in the tiny house. Not dangerous, but not pleasant. Fortunately that doesn't happen very often. Hope that helps. Do you have a tiny house that you are looking for a toilet for?
I think it’s worth the price. You don’t have to worry about sewage and trying to figure out how to get rid of it. I hope the papers are from recycled sources. That’s really my only concern
Just two questions: 1. You burn the toilet paper with the humanure as well? 2. Can you use a squeeze bottle bidet with the system, or is there another recepticle for that? Thanks in advance for your reply.
1. Yes...it all burns (or evaporates) including urine. 2. Squeeze bottle bidet may add too much moisture to the system (w/urine). I would be a bit nervous about doing that. Will impact the overall efficiency of the system. I'm not sure how much moisture you would be introducing via the bottle.
Exactly. Seems very polarizing though for some reason. Some people hate it without ever having used one seemingly. It all comes down to your personal situation and if this kind of toilet would be helpful for you or not. That's how I see it at least. Thanks for the comment.
Hi there. I have a 110V version. There is also a 220V. The additional power leads to a shorter run time. Have I answered your question? Are you thinking of getting one?
Thanks for the very honest , balanced review. You said it wouldn't work in an off grid scenario? Even with 8 solar panals and a generator? Just looking at all options... thanks Andy
Hi Andrea. Thanks for the kind words. I won't go so far as to say that it can't work in an off grid scenario. It's more about whether it's the best option for an off grid scenario and if you want to invest in the additional infrastructure (generator, solar panels, batteries) to make it happen. Does it make sense to have a $10,000 solar set up to power a $2,000 electric toilet? Do you want to run a generator for 90 minutes every time you use the toilet? It can be done, but if you watched my other video on toilet options: ruclips.net/video/kIhGTT_uj9k/видео.html it's more about choosing the toilet that makes the most sense for your budget, needs and environment that the toilet will be used in. So all that being said, can you, for example, have a standard flush toilet in a school bus conversion? Sure, but it mostly would only make sense if the bus is permanently parked in the back yard of a house that has ample water and sewer availability...you get the idea.
Yes, a new liner is needed for every flush. You can pee in there though and not flush...pee again a bit later and then use a single flush/burn cycle to eliminate two pee sessions. If you get what I mean.
@@TinyIndustrial If used once per day??? its about $1 per use though this depend on your E costs. here its 22c/kwh its going to consume 1.8 to 2.7kwh per "burn" and 15cents per liner. if used twice daily its going to cost about $60 a month in E and Liners. IF you live in cali double that. if you get hydro power maybe halve that. depends on what your power costs you.
No. The wax paper liners that the toilet uses do not absorb or let liquids and moisture through. A newspaper would and you wouldn't want that. If you want and have the time and energy to do so, you can fold the liners yourself. Incinolet sells a template that makes folding them pretty easy. I find that they are affordable enough so that I don't feel a need to do that DIY step of making them myself.
I'm sure it could be done, but I'm guessing ample amounts of electricity are hard to come by on a sailboat. Doable, yes. Best option, likely not. What do people on those round the world sailing trips do? Doesn't the waste ultimately just have to go into the ocean? Whales poop, no?
@@TinyIndustrial Ocean Cruisers are allowed to discharge raw swage 3 miles out. Garbage too as long as the trash has no plastic. Larger boats have huge holding tanks with treatment devices so the sewage is a bit cleaner. Chinese fishing boats are notorious for not following any rules & some have ‘heads’ that are a toilet with a hole into the ocean on a deck that hangs over the stern. Thank you! I will go with a composting head for now!
How do you clean it? Can you wash it down the toilet seat with regular soap and water or is there a special spray? Do you have to disconnect it when washing it?
I generally just wipe it down the cleaning wipes. Since the all of the usage of the toilet winds up the in the paper liner, it keeps the interior of the toilet rather clean (all the metal parts). Are you considering getting one?
Yes, it would work. The bigger question is if it would make sense to run it that way. I get the question of if it could be run off a solar set up often too. The answer is 'yes' again, but with the very large caveat that there may be a better solution than this toilet in scenarios where you don't have easy access to electricity. What is your particular scenario?
Yes, you can do that. My girlfriend will sometimes pee in it before bed and then again in the AM. It's at that point that she 'flushes' it and runs the burn cycle. Upside is two uses before the burn and the humming sound the toilet makes doesn't disturb getting to and staying asleep.
@@TinyIndustrial thanks. It just says it is a large energy consumption. So I have several people that could care less. The electric would break me, lol.
I suppose that could work, but do you really want to run the generator every time you 'flush' the toilet? Seems a bit excessive. I'll let you decide, but I predict there may be a better toilet option out there for you given that you don't have a dedicated source of electricity.
Aside from emptying the ash out of it every now and then, it is pretty much self cleaning. This is because you use a paper liner each time and that gets burned as well. It's part of what makes it a great solution.
No worries. It's all self contained. The toilet doesn't get hot to the touch or eminate any heat. It's just hot in the burn chamber where it needs to be and no where else. Pretty remarkable product in that way.
Hi. You know, that's likely the toilet option I know the least about. Is that a propane fired toilet? I'm not sure what they would use electricity for other than the ignition and the venting fan. If that is the case, you could likely use it quite well with a solar set up, but like I said, I just don't know enough about it. It's pretty pricey too, no?
Considering installing in a cabin that will be used for Airbnb. My thought is that some renters will neglect to use the paper liner. What will happen if waste is incinerated without the liner?
If you don't use a liner you create a huge mess. Liquid will simply run into and through the unit and come out in a puddle on the floor. Remember that while you are sitting on the toilet, the burn chamber is sealed closed. It only opens when the foot pedal is pressed down. I would NOT recommend this kind of toilet for for a rental situation. Get a 'Dry Flush' toilet if you are going to be renting out the house/structure. Hope that helps!
I think that at some point I worked it out to about $0.25-$0.50 a flush (depending on where you live) plus a few more cents for the liner. It's not cheap, but also not crazy costly.
You mentioned off the grid power being an issue. How do you guys make it work when travelling in the trailer? Is it powered off a gas generator or something else?
I don't travel with this tiny house. It is very much 'parked' on the land that I own. If you wanted to travel with this toilet, then yes, you would need a generator or other source of electricity (not solar) to power the toilet.
Funny, I went to the countryside, they have this setup like a diy incinolet but made from marble, with an exhaust connected to it going high up the ceiling. Inside the "incinolet" bowl is like a wide metal pot hanging with like small coals burning inside of it and underneath it like 24/7 and is filled with coal every 6 hours. There's a lot of wood around so no problem with making coals. Poop capacity would be like a bucket full of poop and coal, so probably 3-5 days. They take it out when the poop doesnt smell anymore and completely burned out, like a huge pot full of poop lol and use it as fertilizer after grounding the now toasted poop to ash. No wonder the veggie that I ate there taste a little bit earthy...
I see that the price is $2900 on the incinolet.com site. Is that what you are referring to? Yes, prices went up a bit, plus I got a good deal on the original toilet I acquired.
Yes I get it totally and no I would be mad ! Lol Thanks for your straighness all makes sense, ps your daughter is so lovely and a credit, did a fab job when so many kids would be like noooo I'm not reporting on that lol :)
Yes. You can use the toilet while it is in the middle of a burn cycle as well. Just hit the start button again and it effectively starts a new burn cycle. If you just pee in there, you can choose not to 'flush it' and do so after using the toilet a second time. That's an option. Does that make sense?
It turns everything into dust. Liquids are evaporated. The fine dust that remains can be easily disposed of every so often. Not sure if it would have a high value as a fertilizer or similar.
Some years ago when I first saw this brand of incinerating toilet, they had electric, propane, and kerosene models (not sure if they still have all three types -- I'll have to look). To combat any exhaust smell they had a catalytic unit that installed in the vent pipe and removed the smell, otherwise run the vent pipe up to above roof level and attach a rain/snow cap. On the electric model that you have, what is the amperage requirement (assuming 120 VAC/60 Hz line)? Is it 15, 20, 30, 50...Amps? Nice review. :)
Thanks! Yes, I've seen some of the other incarnations of this as well. I believe that mine is hooked up to a dedicated 10AMP breaker...possibly a 15. Not sure. I run the whole house on 30AMPs. That works for the most part with only occasional tripping of the breaker when I'm using too many things.
@@tegan71969 he could have the temp turned down. Whatever the rating for wattage use is, it's always based on max settings, this is required by law. So if his heat isn't tuned up to max, this could easily operate on a 15 amp breaker. I also have multiple 1,500 watt space heaters that I have ran on 15 amp circuits (15 amp rated wire and 15 amp breakers). It's easily doable.
Yes, I keep it lower so that I don't exceed the overall amps. Would rather have an individual breaker pop than all the lights going out at once. Ten seems to work fine for the most part.
Hi. You run a burn cycle after every use. If you use the toilet during a burn cycle (that's fine to do), you simply hit the start button again and it resets the clock on the burn cycle and starts a complete burn cycle again. Hope that answers your question?
I’m wondering is you can use this with a fixed structure. Meaning can I put this in a fixed cabin and just use a grey water tank for my other plumbing?
Good question... I'm not sure. I have some royalty free music that I purchased and I grab whatever I feel works for the video. Thanks for reaching out.
Definitely. I'm not sure I'd want to spread that ash on my lettuce or similar, but yes, the ash is inherently good for the soil and the kind of application you are referencing.
Appreciate you sharing this review. I have planned on buying this toilet for my tiny home which is in the planning & financing stages . I did not know how much energy they consumed. What kind of set up would it take to use it off grid?? is it possible at all?
Hi. Yes, it is 'possible' to use it off grid. It comes down to whether or not it still makes sense to have this toilet in that kind of scenario though. A flush on the incinolet is about 2Kwh of power. From there you can figure out what that would take in regard to batteries and solar cells to charge those batteries. Figure maybe two flushes (night) as a conservative nightime/no recharge scenario. I think you'll find that it will require big money in batterie$ and panels. As I said, there is likely a better option for your off grid set up. Hope that helps.
in my estimation you will need a 300ah battery (better would be 3 100ah batts in serious to increase the voltage maybe 4 as 48v is more common than 36v) higher power systems work better at higher voltages. that is enough power for ONE FLUSH (4x100ah is enough for 2 flushes) then depending on where you live for example here in NM I bet I could get away with 3x400w solar panels or 4x330w solar panels. IE use the toilet at night. then in the morning solar panels charge up the battery in about 3 hours then you can use it again. every 3 hours with good sunlight. go with a couple more solar panels and during the day the solar will almost match power consumption. The toilet is crazy expensive at $2300 but the CONSUMABLE cost (E and liners) is also quite high almost $1 per use. so twice a day is $60 a month. around $800 a year if used twice daily. so the ROI on the solar battery setup at least won't be too long especially with used panels. around 3 years I would guess which is not such a bad ROI actually.
I'm not sure of my electric amps..etc? With my home, what if my home isn't 20amp..lol I know I'm dumb but do you think an electrician can install more amps if I don't already have 20 amps..in my circuit breaker.?
I'm not sure how equipped I am to answer your question, but think of of the level of electrical service as being a theoretical maximum of power you can use at one time. Power needs go up and down depending on what we are using. If you have a lot of things that have high power consumption (AC, toaster oven, electric baseboard heat, electric clothes dryer, electric stove, hair dryer, etc.) they all compete for the available power. If you have an insufficient amount of overall power (that's that amp service rating), you'll get to a point where somethings got to give and you will either trip an individual circuit breaker or the main circuit breaker. The Incinolet just happens to represent one of those high usage devices I listed out. If you don't have too many of those things, you should be just fine, but if your electrical service is already marginal for the amount of stuff you are running off of it, well then adding something like an Incinolet will not lead to a good outcome. It's best to get an electrician involved and discuss your specific scenario with them and they'll be able to offer up custom solution for your situation. Hope that helps!
As you said the Cinderella is really expensive and therefore never really made it onto my radar. That said, the Cinderella is a nice toilet. Just not sure it's worth the extra money. Would love to do a comparison video on the two of them...
Different toilets have different advantages for different situations. I love the Incinolet since it was the best solution for my particular house setup. The smell is minimal. If the combustion smell bothered you, you could always run a longer exhaust pipe up to the roofline of the house. That would eliminate all odor. It doesn't bother me, so I have done that.
Welp..my only disappointment is with the urine. It kust seems to have problem evaporating liquid, but that is because surface heat can burn solids but cannot readily get the pan hot enough to boil and evaporate urine. That needs to be done by heating the bottom of the pan like boiling water on the stove (however I have secured a netter option). BUT i will say this, for what I can do with the unit it works great on #2 with paper NOT wipes, but paper. The ash works great for garden and other fertilizer uses, because it is completely sanitized. Hope this helps.
@@hmmm2564 Never seen a bidet in a tiny house. If the question is: Could you add a bidet toilet seat to an Incinolet? The answer to that would be 'no'.
@@TinyIndustrial Thank you for replying. I meant, instead of toilet paper, most people in the world wash their privates with water after relieving oneself (by pouring water). We have a "water can" that we fill with water. Bidet is only in rich countries. So I guess..the answer is that these toilets cannot tolerate having water taken in?
Yes, that's the vent fan that you are hearing. Pulls the smoke out of the house and vents to the outside. Without an active fan extracting air, this toilet would smoke up the house pretty bad... It is a bit loud, true. I can sleep fine though even with it running. Kind of like white noise.
I would say that using solar to power this toilet is not impossible, but it's highly impractical given the massive amount of equipment needed to do so. There is likely a better toilet scenario for you if you have only solar to depend on for powering this device.
Yes, that's a popular one for sure. Definitely the winner in the 'ease of use' category. Lots of people complain about the cost of the cartridges though.
Hi. The toilet needs a dedicated vent. Exhaust exits the back of the toilet and needs to be routed to the outside. Simply having a vent in your bathroom would not suffice. You need to run the exhaust from the back of the toilet to the outdoors. Hope that helps.
Would it still get enough power if you have solar Is on a cloudy day or if it's raining? I'm really interested in incinerator toilets butts but I'm not sure if they would get power during snow season or rainy days.
It all comes down to how many panels you have and how much storage capacity (batteries ) you have available to you. Anything is possible in this regard. It's just that it doesn't always make sense to do it a particular way. You know what I'm saying?
Installed for my grandmother. Had to put over old toilet flange and rubber pads to lift it level off floor. Connection to pvc with rubber union seems weird. Ran straight through. My dryer vent was cracked from incinolet so had to buy a new one at HD. Do you know if flushable wipes are okay for this?
Hi. Nice of you to get one of these for your grandmother. In regard to flushable wipes...I would imagine that it would work. That said, I wouldn't recommend doing it. 1) they will burn less readily since they are wet. 2) they may contain some form of alcohol, which would definitely be bad if that were the case. 3) not sure how 'clean' they burn. Scent, odor, toxic fumes, etc. 4) not sure what and how much residue they leave behind. May lead to adhesion to burn chamber. More frequent need to clean and so on. Bottom line is it could go fine for a while, but I wouldn't do it. You can check on their site to see if they have an official answer to that particular FAQ. Hope that helps. What prompted the switch to electric for her?
@@TinyIndustrialthsnks!! Her cottage on lake septic problematic. So we switched over to this seasonal solution. Dedicated 240v, seems to work well. I wanted to ask company also if pvc and flange min distance as this is a cottage, my pipe is literally 8" to outside with dryer vent. Was worried it would blow buring debris. Blower seems way stronger than I thought. I assume screen prevents that inside unit.
Great. 240V is likely a much better experience than my 110V. I think that the burn cycle is shorter overall on the 240. They are built like tanks and I haven't had any issues with mine in the years that I've had it (intermittent use). I have never seen any debris or similar be expelled from the pipe. Mine (as you can see in the video) points down at a 90 degree angle with a guard to keep vermin out. This has always worked fine. Emits a bit of smoke at the beginning of the burn cycle and then that's about it. Hope your grandmother is as happy with it as I am.
Hi! Thanks for your video. I have seen your comment regarding Airbnbs and that you wouldn't recommend in that scenario. I live in Hawaii where we don't have sewer systems so, to be environmentally conscious, I am trying to avoid adding anymore toilets to the cesspool. I think this would be a good solution but am also worried about the guests not using the liner. My setup would be outdoors so my first question is: if the guest forgot to use the liner could I just hose the whole thing down and let it drain off the wood platform? 2. Does the liner really catch all the waste? We have a household member with IBS (which can be kind of explosive sometimes) it seems that the bowl and lid would need to be hosed down regularly to stay clean since there's no water passing through and the paper liner doesn't look like it's a perfect tight seal fit. Any thoughts on that?
Thanks for the comment. Not using a liner is a disaster. An ex girlfriend of mine peed into the unit without a liner. Urine ran out the bottom of the unit and I needed to take it apart and did a clean out. Since it has electrical components "hosing it down" is not an option. In regard to the second part of your question, the liner catches 98% even in dire situations. The remaining two percent can be eliminated with some 409 spray and some rubber gloves and a few paper towels. Not fun, but you'd have to clean a conventional flush toilet in some way on occasion as well at some point. Yes, in the end lack of liner use would be my main concern with Airbnb guests...
Hmm. No, never had a problem with that. Sometimes my house is not perfectly level since it settles over time and needs to be re-leveled occasionally. I've never had that have any impact on the toilet however. What issues are you having?
Sorry to be commenting on a 3 year old video lol But would you still recommend this today? My thought is to install an incinerator toilet in a semi truck. The Cinderella brand offers a travel model, will this cheaper one be alright bumping around nearly 24/7?
Yes, yes and yes. Not sure about the Cinderella travel model. Can you provide a link to that? I'm not familiar with it. Also not sure if any of these toilets would work well in a truck. I have not seen that implementation. Air pressure from driving in conjunction with the vent process from this kind of toilet would likely cause some undesirable results.
Good question. 1) the smell during burning is really not that bad 2) I'm not sure that burning anything other than what it's intended to burn is a good thing. My vote would be not to do it. If you have an issue with the smell while burning, I would suggest a taller vent stack, ie. up to the roof line. That way you won't smell a thing. Are you pondering buying one of these?
Your daughter was very funny! Did you coach her to give that funny stare look when you asked her what's in the burnt chamber? That literally had me rolling in laughter 🤣
Thanks! Dax Shepard, I've gotten that before and consider it to be a big compliment since he's a few years younger than me. ;) On a sadder note, would strongly advise against using one of these in a wet bath. Electricity and water are not a good combo plus running one of these in a van would require a some form of electricity to be available on a broad and abundant basis. Wouldn't recommend for your situation. :(
An hour and a half??? What about days when you have diarrhea? It needs its own generator! I thought this would be great for my camper but I don't know if I can supply that much energy. How much would you say this thing weighs?
Yup, about 75 to 90 min. You can use the toilet again during those 90 minutes. You don't have to wait for it to finish the burn cycle before using again. Just add a new liner, use, hit the foot pedal and hit the start button again. That resets the timer and a new 90 minute cycle starts. Unless you have a reliable and dedicated supply of electricity, I would not recommend you use this toilet. It's pretty heavy...about 30 to 40lbs I would guesstimate. Not for everyone, but perfect for my situation and needs. In a camper you may just want to go the RV toilet route or composting. Hope that helps!?
2 Incinerators.. $4000ish. Installing a septic system $8K-$12K. Seems like a good alternative to me. Anyone know if one of these can be ran while connected to a generator?
Totally agree. Plus, some places aren't even really suited for a septic install. Dealing with grey water is a whole lot easier than black and this gets you pretty far down the field to the goal. Thanks for the comment.
Not sure when or how that will happen. For what it does, it's already pretty efficient. Not sure what you mean regarding the water comment? There is not water with this toilet. It burns/steams off any and all urine as well. Is that what you were referencing?
Although the Incinolet is awesome and my personal choice for my tiny house, there are other options that make sense in a tiny house setup. Check out this video to see what other options are out there: ruclips.net/video/kIhGTT_uj9k/видео.html Thanks for checking out this video and my channel.
We are debating to add a propane style to our Incinolet. I had thought to attempt a gasifier to supply the gas inlet on the propane style toilet. A lot of thinking to happen before we make any decisions on purchasing one. Hoping to find one used on Craiglist or Marketplace to test out the theory of it all.
I’m curious how much energy it uses per “flush”/ burn
@@americanearthling9671You anit doing the environment or your money’s any justice with these.. needs electricity plus 400 of the liners are $55. Runs for an hour, plus super high price tag= upside down investment bust
Look at much better options
@@peckerpeter2078 that didn’t answer my question. I wasn’t asking for cost. Liners could be made at home. My question didn’t ask about greenhouse gases either. I just wanted to budget energy consumption. But thanks anyway
@@americanearthling9671 You conveniently skipped over the electricity consumption part and running for over an hour. You Wanted to know how much it will cost per flush lol 😂
It’s a bust you wanna spend $4000 + and then pay electricity fees go for it..
We have had an Incinolet toilet for 9 months - the very basic model. Items that they shared in this video that differ from our experience... We have to empty the ash tray after one day's use for 1-2 people or it doesn't fully burn the waste, which is really gross and not as advertised. Also, there will be a "burning pee" smell outside where it vents and if you're down wind of it, you'll wonder what the funky smell is. We feel when the unit is burning/working it's loud, louder than anticipated. We took to heart the reviews on Incinolet's website and were very excited to get one of these for our lake place, because there wasn't an indoor bathroom and this was much more cost effective than installing septic, but now we're looking into septic. This product just isn't operating as hoped - the not fully burning everything and pulling a pan that isn't all ash has been difficult to handle. Also, we were disappointed that when we reached out to the company about this issue, we got no response back. Also, we can't leave a review on their site - reviews are only by invitation only, it seems!
Hmm. That's not been my experience at all. Is it possible that your toilet's internal temp setting is too low? I saw that when I did a deep clean on the toilet that there is a dial in the toilet that adjust the temp it runs at. Also, are you running the vent tube up high or just out at ground level? If you are bothered by any scents, I would recommend that you vent the exhaust tube up towards the roof line. Check out my deep clean video here to see what I'm talking about regarding the temperature setting: ruclips.net/video/AxGRLBDStFo/видео.html
The unit is really designed to empty the ash bowl every day, but check the manual on how to set the temperature and burn time, they may be set incorrectly. If you are still getting incomplete burns, increase the burn time from 1 to 1.5 hours. Also the manual details how the unit uses a catalyst to remove odor from the exhaust. The catalyst works after it heats up, so you might try starting the burn cycle when you first arrive at the toilet to let it heat up some and then press start again to reset the cycle after pressing the foot pedal to dump the contents. Good luck.
It appears to be a venting issue, if the vents is plugged,unproperly installed or too narrow, then it will not evaporate liquids properly and one will see chunks instead of dust.
Yes, the biggest drawback is the odor! We had one in our floating home for 20 years. The smell always bothered me. We had a composting toilet previously and with a woman in the house it wouldn’t compost fast enough !
Do you let the let it run for an hour and a half after each use???
Bought one at a yard sale several years ago for only $250! Had never even heard of them before, just took a chance. It appears everything is there & it seems it will be very easy to install once the micro-cabin is finished. Thanks for the tips!
Wow! Lucky find! Glad that this video was helpful to you!
Love that you said this can be used after it's flushed.
I thought you couldn't use it, until the timer was done.
Yup, can use it while it's burning the previous usage in the burn chamber. Toilet just emits the humming sound of the vent fan extracting smoke to the outside. It's a great toilet solution. What is your particular implementation that you are looking to use one of these in?
@@TinyIndustrial in a mobile home.
@@tuliofigueroa8184 That's a good plan if you have access to electric.
@@TinyIndustrial Why not just wait to "run the cycle after there's more sh*t collected in it?" I mean....everything in this life...comes down to cost and money.
I’m just tossing out ideas; but maybe increased volumes of unburnt waste might cause incomplete burns, when you activate the burn process later... sort of similar to what would happen if you tried to broil a 4” thick steak, as opposed to a more normal 1” thick steak, in an oven. The outside would be burnt to a crisp; but the inside might still be raw.
Another thing is that, if you don’t burn the waste immediately, the foul odors (which none of us enjoy) might begin to run rampant.
I'm planning on moving into a 5th wheel fulltime and I've always wanted one of these so this video has convinced me that I do really need one! Thanks.
Well I'm glad it was helpful. It's worked great for my situation and purposes. Very happy with my choice (still...years later). You have more of a tiny house or more of a standard RV as a 5th wheel?
@@TinyIndustrial it's more of a tiny house. It's 41 feet and it has three bedrooms techinally lol. It's a monster
I think its more of a house than an RV
@@pressureflipin1992 41'!!! Damn. That's a big tiny house for sure. I think a 36 footer is the largest I've seen. You need something like a F-650 or similar to tow that, no?
@@pressureflipin1992did you get
I've had mine for 37 years and it's my daily driver with no issues ! Make my own liners with freezer paper
Wow, that's crazy but not surprising. They are built to last. Really high quality product. That can't be said about most things these days.
Do you mean that you travel with it
Yes, not sure what was meant by that as well. Either way it likely speaks to the longevity of this high quality toilet.
@@hmmm2564 It just means that this is his main toilet.
Do you have it in a tractor?
Super excited to install in our tiny house. My husband just found one, new in box, for $200 at an estate sale!🎉
Think of a toilet with a disposer ... ruclips.net/video/LSmG6VgxI1k/видео.html
That's a great find! Have you installed it yet? What are your thoughts on it?
Your daughter is so cute and has a great personality, your obviously a great dad. Well doing! From Dad to Dad
Thanks! She is pretty awesome. I agree. I'm very lucky. I appreciate the kind words.
Is that ash on the base boards?
Not sure what you are referring to? Do you have a timestamp I can reference?
I'd never heard of an incinerating toilet until I watched a Tony Home video today. It's a great idea. Your daughter is adorable.
Hi Linda. Thanks for the comment. Glad the video was helpful. Are you considering a tiny house?
Great video. Our outhouse service is going away so we are considering this product. $2000 may seem high, but I think the price is far less than installing a septic system, especially when our cabin is on a large hillside. Thanks for this great video. I have been skeptical about this product, but this really looks good.
Yes, it's a great septic alternative for sure. Especially true if you live in a tricky spot where septic is even more difficult and cumbersome (expensive) to install. This toilet has performed better than expected and I definitely highly recommend it. My assumption is that you have easy access to electricity?
Also helps if you are trying to conserve ground water being aquifer levels. I’m considering buying one for a 5th wheel camp site rec center so no septic and no crapping with coyotes 😂. However, @TinyIndustrial I have a good question:
If you run out of paper liners could you us Junk Mail and old Bills to crap on and burn? If so, there are a whole bunch of Politicians I want to make printed copies of so I can Delicate on their face and then burn it 😂. Just kidding, my days of urinal target practice jokes are long over but Bills and Junk Mail I have plenty of to burn. Could you try this out for me and see if it works? I’m very interested.
Also, could you run this off a 50amp service if you wanted one in your RV as well or running a camp site off 50 amp service? Thanks for your time.
Propane or hydrogen could be a much quicker burn. But man for 2000 bucks it by far beats the price of the newest model out at 15,000. The new ones have only a 15 min burn. I guess burn time shouldn’t be that much of an issue if a person can go and another person can go while the other one’s burning and they can drop it in the mist of the burn so other person can go etc. I’m sure this isn’t possible but it would be cool if it was.
@@EmpoweredPercussion from my research, another person can use it immediately after someone else did, you just have to restart the cycle, and you may have to possibly run a 2nd cycle due to the additional "load" size.
So did you ever get it? Or did you go septic ?
I had a incinolet four 4 years. Once you got the draft right it worked great.
You mean the draft from it pulling air out of the structure and that creating a draft somewhere else? If so, yeah, it does do that. I usually minimally open a window in the bathroom for it to draw air in.
I do 2 number 2 within 30mins of each other.
Im glad you can do multiple 2’s while the system is running.
That's right. It's not limiting in that way.
@@TinyIndustrial thats some true vid dedication to answering everyone when you decide to answer the person who wants to give you details on their day to day of their bowels. I salute you, but not them for sharing their unnecessary comment.
Hahah I love how she giggles 🤭 lol. Great video and awesome idea having a youngin help out. Helps promote such a cool option for all ages!
Thank you. Yes, we had some fun with this video.
For apartments or on the road rv,trailer or van life I think this this is best option but for a house with a good amount of yard space I prefer the compost method.
At the end of the day, it's partly your environment and it's a personal preference thing. I totally get that some folks prefer a composting toilet. This toilet was right for ME though and I've been very happy with it. Thanks for the comment!
Lololol, i love the daughter's reaction to "how often do you empty it?"!!!🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍
Right?! :)
Could you use this for urine most of the day, and run in the evening or do you have to let it run 1.5 hours every time you take a whiz?
Yes, definitely. You and use it and not flush...then use it again later and then flush. That works fine for wizzes. Cuts the electricity usage in half that way. :)
This would be perfect for our family's cabin. Although, I wonder if you can let urine collect...say overnight. I'd hate to run it just for liquids.
Yes, you can definitely do that. My daughter uses it in that fashion. Perfectly fine to do so.
Fun fact, if you add a splash of white vinegar to the pee, it will not smell. This could allow you to wait until you need to poo.
@@Steven-gv1ke That's interesting. I wonder what the science is behind that.
Good advice. Thanks!
Likely kills the bacteria that causes the smell in the first place?
This young lady’s smile brightened my day😀very informative Thank you for sharing.
Ahh. Thanks! She brightens my day all the time. :)
I wish you'd shown what the ashes look like. It's just a weird concept for me, I never knew this existed.🤔 But thank you for posting this video.
In my video the ashes are shown and dumped.
Yes, sorry. Didn't think that people would find that interesting. Maybe I misjudged the interest. Apparently "Off Grid Philosophy" shows that in their video.
Best video I have seen. When we get our new model ready we would like you to review the new one.
Thanks Kevin! It's a great product that has provided me with many problem free years of operation. That's exciting that you are working on a new model. Would be happy to review. Do you have a timeline for when it is likely to be released? What are the main features/changes to the existing Incinolets?
We are trying for end of 2021. The new toilet will be quieter and use 35% less electricity.
@@incinolet868 That sounds great. Will the form factor be the same? More color options? I really like the white ones that you do.
They will look the same and we will continue to have the powder coated white and the polished stainless. I will make sure you get a white one.
@@incinolet868 Well I hope that all goes well with the development. Look forward to seeing the end result!
They're great, as long as you've got mains power or another way to feed it a full kilowatt hour for every burn. If there's ANY unburned ash, either the thermostat is defective, or your use requires increasing the burn time, which is adjustable.
Could also be an exhaust constriction, or if there's a bathroom exhaust fan, it will fight against the fan in the Incinolet. You need positive air flow into the bathroom.
more like 3KWh at 1800W for 1.5 hr
Yup, have to have a dedicated source of electricity.
I think that it's lower than that since once it hits temp, it just cycles. Much like an oven does. Initial usage high and then it tapers while cycling through the remainder of the burn/flush cycle.
@@TinyIndustrial From what they told me directly, yes it cycles to maintain the correct heat, but the total consumption is about one kWh per cycle.
@@Muonium1 £1.50 a flush? May as well go back to water. Well 50p if 1kwh.
Can you plug a power meter into the outlet and see how many kWh it uses?
If you found a power meter that fits into that outlet you could. I uses one of those single outlets that has the sideways slot. I have no idea what they are called. It would be easier to run the toilet and nothing else and see what happens right at the power meter level. That's how I would approach it.
Is there maintenance on the fan or other components of the toilet? I read that maintenance can be difficult and expensive.
I found that (where I live) rust can develop on the fan since the heating and cooling effects taking place in the toilet can cause condensation (leading to rust). That said, I have had very minimal maintenance issues aside from cleaning the toilet on a regular basis.. I have heard of heating coils going bad and that type of thing, but it's pretty rare and the toilet is VERY well made and constructed.
Wait so it requires an exhaust even though your model is fully electrically powered? What about the propane gas/electric hybrid models? Do those require multiple vents? I'd imagine they're harder to install and you'd have to procure a second utility resource but it would be interesting to compare how much more efficient a gas burning model could be.
Right, the exhaust is what expels the smoke from the burn process out of your structure. Think of it as doing what your range hood does over your stove. Incinolet I think used to make a propane model, but they don't anymore. I know that there is some company that I think still does do a propane version. If they send me one of their toilets, I'd be happy to test it out. :)
Thanks for this and I have 2 questions please. 1. How often should I turn it on? Per single use or every so often? 2. How often do I need to empty it? Thanks!
Hi, thanks for the comment and the questions. 1) If you just pee into it, you can use it twice before 'flushing' and running a burn cycle. Everything else, I would suggest you flush every time. 2) Emptying it depends on amount of usage. I would suggest emptying it every 10 flushes or so. That could be 3 days or two weeks. if you only spend part of your time at the location where the toilet is. Depends how long it takes you to use it 10 or so times. Make sense?
@@TinyIndustrial Urinate outside...when circumstances are ok; male and female. Keeping costs down is important...even if you're not cash strapped.
Totally agree.
Cost of Electric toilet vs. water toilet on a monthly basis, Electric bill vs. Water bill. I am interested to know the difference between traditional vs. electric. Is there any cost savings either way?
Water toilet would likely be cheaper. It's not so much about cost to operate. Rather it comes down to what you have available to you that will determine what kind of toilet makes sense in a given scenario. An incinerating toilet makes a lot of sense if you don't have running water but have an electricity source. Even if an electric toilet might be more expensive to acquire and operate. Know what I mean?
High Energy consumption? Guess my hopes for not having to clean waste for the up and coming van life is ruin 😭😰 Great video
I think they have a propane option. Kind of a bulky and cumbersome thing to have in a van too. You would have to install it on rails with a flexible vent tube or similar. Likely not your best option. How far along in the van build are you?
@@TinyIndustrial I’m still at the sketching and research phase. I’ve been binge watching tons of videos on which toilet is the best. And I can say that your video is the most informative
I'm looking at options for a tiny house on land that I own, and it is well water out here that requires an electric pump, now im wondering on the energy comparison of this burning vs the energy used from the electric water pump to fill the toilet up. I d9nt know how you wouod even test it.
Put a plastic bag in your traditional toilet, add some peat moss, take a dump, tie it up, and dispose as trash. Pee into your black tank only. Drain into a bucket, pour on trees in nature as urea fertilizer. Not on Redwoods or Sequoia. Done.
@@lass-inangeles7564 pouring pee on ur trees and such with taint ur soil which is a question for the health department in ur county. E coli is a big problem with sewage now a days
Great video. So in the case that people are in a cabin bigger than a tiny cabin and many people have to go at once, perhaps there is a better design? I’m thinking if people go and they do the flush; the paper could slide out of the unit into a outdoor incinerator near by. It could be much bigger and burn much hotter with propane or another alternative gas. The military must have invented something like this?
Yes, there is likely a better way or at a minimum a different model/mechanism to suit a larger group of people/users. Part of the appeal though is that the whole thing is self contained and that you 'can' travel with it as long as you wind up somewhere where you have a source of power.
Nice. At the present, I'm almost totally off-grid. If I ever get into a sticks & bricks scenario (ya never know), I'd consider it a worthwhile investment. Thanks, Chris!
Your daughter is adorable. 😃
Ah, yes, and off grid scenario does not work for this kind of toilet (unless you want to buy a lot of very expensive solar equipment). So, are you using a composting toilet at the moment?
Yes. It's kind of a Luggable Loo deal, using an RV commode with a liner instead of a bucket. I use cedar chips or equine bedding ($5.99/40 lbs) as the compost.
@@donnaarmstrong1193 Sounds like a good solution. Everybody has to figure out what works best for them.
But what if you lived in say, a shed. 10x20. And had a dedicated solar panel system for it, or maybe a generator? It is expensive but man, imagining it seems like such a payout.
Could work. Bit tricky though. Could also be cost prohibitive or simply not make sense.
So those come in 120v and 240v variants. The 120v model uses 2000 watts and the 240 uses 3500 watts. Is it always a 90 minute cycle time? If one went with the 120v model that would use 3kwh on a 90 minute cycle. Totally doable for me in the summer with my 8 kw of solar panels but I don't know about during the winter with the short and overcast days. Don't want to run my battery bank out for when my fridge needs to run or I need to cook or bake something on the electric range.
That sounds about right. Right. Solar with this might not be the best solution...unless it's the only solution. In that case it can be made to work but requires some pretty heavy investment in panels and batteries as you were able to figure out. What's your scenario?
Does it need 240 Volt electricity oer 120V regular house hold current?
They have both models. The 240 is faster since it can burn hotter (and faster). The 110 is what I have and I'm fine with it.
Thank you for this review. If you lose power/electricity due to a storm or something, do you have a backup toilet source?
I do not have a backup source of power. If the power goes out that can be a problem. Would have to head into town and use a public toilet or similar. Really bad is when the power goes out during the burn cycle since it stops venting to the outside and can lead to a smoke situation in the tiny house. Not dangerous, but not pleasant. Fortunately that doesn't happen very often. Hope that helps. Do you have a tiny house that you are looking for a toilet for?
I think it’s worth the price. You don’t have to worry about sewage and trying to figure out how to get rid of it. I hope the papers are from recycled sources. That’s really my only concern
That's right. The source of the paper liners I'm not sure of. They are a kind of wax/parchment type paper since it has to be resistant to liquids.
Just two questions:
1. You burn the toilet paper with the humanure as well?
2. Can you use a squeeze bottle bidet with the system, or is there another recepticle for that?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
1. Yes...it all burns (or evaporates) including urine.
2. Squeeze bottle bidet may add too much moisture to the system (w/urine). I would be a bit nervous about doing that. Will impact the overall efficiency of the system. I'm not sure how much moisture you would be introducing via the bottle.
@@TinyIndustrial About half a cup or 120ml if you're metric.
Could likely handle that. Would lead to a less efficient burn though.
Incinolet toilet is a super idea, neat clean, no spilled anything.
Exactly. Seems very polarizing though for some reason. Some people hate it without ever having used one seemingly. It all comes down to your personal situation and if this kind of toilet would be helpful for you or not. That's how I see it at least. Thanks for the comment.
whats the voltage on this? I am looking at the manual and dont see it
Hi there. I have a 110V version. There is also a 220V. The additional power leads to a shorter run time. Have I answered your question? Are you thinking of getting one?
That young lady is absolutely adorable.
Thank you. She is. I agree.
Thanks for the very honest , balanced review. You said it wouldn't work in an off grid scenario? Even with 8 solar panals and a generator? Just looking at all options... thanks Andy
Hi Andrea. Thanks for the kind words. I won't go so far as to say that it can't work in an off grid scenario. It's more about whether it's the best option for an off grid scenario and if you want to invest in the additional infrastructure (generator, solar panels, batteries) to make it happen. Does it make sense to have a $10,000 solar set up to power a $2,000 electric toilet? Do you want to run a generator for 90 minutes every time you use the toilet? It can be done, but if you watched my other video on toilet options: ruclips.net/video/kIhGTT_uj9k/видео.html it's more about choosing the toilet that makes the most sense for your budget, needs and environment that the toilet will be used in. So all that being said, can you, for example, have a standard flush toilet in a school bus conversion? Sure, but it mostly would only make sense if the bus is permanently parked in the back yard of a house that has ample water and sewer availability...you get the idea.
It works off grid. You just need a beefy system. Check out my Incinolet in my van👍
@@TinyIndustrial thank you , you answered my posted question, ill check out your other video, thank you. great video. your daughter is a doll
I'm interested in this could you possible run a generator once a week while burning it and doing laundry
Once a week is not going to cut it unless you only use a toilet once a week...
Question. Do you have to use a freash liner everytime for urine only ?
and also incinerate everytime. for just urine
Yes, a new liner is needed for every flush. You can pee in there though and not flush...pee again a bit later and then use a single flush/burn cycle to eliminate two pee sessions. If you get what I mean.
Nicely done review. Can you give us a rough estimate of what this would cost to run for one month? I know it varies a lot but just a ball park?
Hard to say. Maybe $25 if you use it pretty regularly.
@@TinyIndustrial If used once per day??? its about $1 per use though this depend on your E costs. here its 22c/kwh its going to consume 1.8 to 2.7kwh per "burn" and 15cents per liner. if used twice daily its going to cost about $60 a month in E and Liners.
IF you live in cali double that. if you get hydro power maybe halve that. depends on what your power costs you.
Thanks
Power pricing is key.
Could you concievably use newspaper as a liner?
No. The wax paper liners that the toilet uses do not absorb or let liquids and moisture through. A newspaper would and you wouldn't want that. If you want and have the time and energy to do so, you can fold the liners yourself. Incinolet sells a template that makes folding them pretty easy. I find that they are affordable enough so that I don't feel a need to do that DIY step of making them myself.
Aloha, Thoughts on installing the Incinolet on my sailboat? We are always careful with flames on boats. Mahalo for the great tutorial & review....
I'm sure it could be done, but I'm guessing ample amounts of electricity are hard to come by on a sailboat. Doable, yes. Best option, likely not. What do people on those round the world sailing trips do? Doesn't the waste ultimately just have to go into the ocean? Whales poop, no?
@@TinyIndustrial Ocean Cruisers are allowed to discharge raw swage 3 miles out. Garbage too as long as the trash has no plastic. Larger boats have huge holding tanks with treatment devices so the sewage is a bit cleaner. Chinese fishing boats are notorious for not following any rules & some have ‘heads’ that are a toilet with a hole into the ocean on a deck that hangs over the stern.
Thank you! I will go with a composting head for now!
Yuck. Stay away from Chinese fishing boats in that case.
How do you clean it? Can you wash it down the toilet seat with regular soap and water or is there a special spray? Do you have to disconnect it when washing it?
I generally just wipe it down the cleaning wipes. Since the all of the usage of the toilet winds up the in the paper liner, it keeps the interior of the toilet rather clean (all the metal parts). Are you considering getting one?
Would this toilet work if plugged into a portable generator?
Thanks for the review 👍🏼
Yes, it would work. The bigger question is if it would make sense to run it that way. I get the question of if it could be run off a solar set up often too. The answer is 'yes' again, but with the very large caveat that there may be a better solution than this toilet in scenarios where you don't have easy access to electricity. What is your particular scenario?
Anything can run on a generator...given enough power generation/amps/watts.
That's right.
Say you want to use it more than once, before you water an hour and a half of electricity. Is it just as effective burning the water?
Yes, you can do that. My girlfriend will sometimes pee in it before bed and then again in the AM. It's at that point that she 'flushes' it and runs the burn cycle. Upside is two uses before the burn and the humming sound the toilet makes doesn't disturb getting to and staying asleep.
@@TinyIndustrial thanks. It just says it is a large energy consumption. So I have several people that could care less. The electric would break me, lol.
Yes, it's a showstopper for some folks. Completely understand.
Is it possible to use it off-grid with a 120-Volt 20-Amp Portable inverter Generator?
I suppose that could work, but do you really want to run the generator every time you 'flush' the toilet? Seems a bit excessive. I'll let you decide, but I predict there may be a better toilet option out there for you given that you don't have a dedicated source of electricity.
Thanks for testing it out. Is it self cleaning?
Aside from emptying the ash out of it every now and then, it is pretty much self cleaning. This is because you use a paper liner each time and that gets burned as well. It's part of what makes it a great solution.
I plan on putting a vinyl floor under the toilet. Will it get to hot and burn the floor. Do I need to fire proof the floor and surrounding walls??
No worries. It's all self contained. The toilet doesn't get hot to the touch or eminate any heat. It's just hot in the burn chamber where it needs to be and no where else. Pretty remarkable product in that way.
I have an Eco Johnwhich supposedly uses 20 -30 watts. Haven't hooked it up yet but would a 200 watt solar panel work then?
Hi. You know, that's likely the toilet option I know the least about. Is that a propane fired toilet? I'm not sure what they would use electricity for other than the ignition and the venting fan. If that is the case, you could likely use it quite well with a solar set up, but like I said, I just don't know enough about it. It's pretty pricey too, no?
Considering installing in a cabin that will be used for Airbnb. My thought is that some renters will neglect to use the paper liner. What will happen if waste is incinerated without the liner?
If you don't use a liner you create a huge mess. Liquid will simply run into and through the unit and come out in a puddle on the floor. Remember that while you are sitting on the toilet, the burn chamber is sealed closed. It only opens when the foot pedal is pressed down. I would NOT recommend this kind of toilet for for a rental situation. Get a 'Dry Flush' toilet if you are going to be renting out the house/structure. Hope that helps!
How hard is it on your electric bill $ and how much do the liners cost ?
I think that at some point I worked it out to about $0.25-$0.50 a flush (depending on where you live) plus a few more cents for the liner. It's not cheap, but also not crazy costly.
@@TinyIndustrial Thats not bad at all for how well it works and not dealing with compost !
You mentioned off the grid power being an issue. How do you guys make it work when travelling in the trailer? Is it powered off a gas generator or something else?
I don't travel with this tiny house. It is very much 'parked' on the land that I own. If you wanted to travel with this toilet, then yes, you would need a generator or other source of electricity (not solar) to power the toilet.
Super father daughter vid. thanks
Thank you.
Funny, I went to the countryside, they have this setup like a diy incinolet but made from marble, with an exhaust connected to it going high up the ceiling. Inside the "incinolet" bowl is like a wide metal pot hanging with like small coals burning inside of it and underneath it like 24/7 and is filled with coal every 6 hours. There's a lot of wood around so no problem with making coals. Poop capacity would be like a bucket full of poop and coal, so probably 3-5 days. They take it out when the poop doesnt smell anymore and completely burned out, like a huge pot full of poop lol and use it as fertilizer after grounding the now toasted poop to ash. No wonder the veggie that I ate there taste a little bit earthy...
Interesting. Yes, I suppose that's an option. Would be good to hire a person to ensure that the fire never goes out. :)
Do you have a link for that toilet I saw another one but it was triple that price
I see that the price is $2900 on the incinolet.com site. Is that what you are referring to? Yes, prices went up a bit, plus I got a good deal on the original toilet I acquired.
Yes I get it totally and no I would be mad ! Lol Thanks for your straighness all makes sense, ps your daughter is so lovely and a credit, did a fab job when so many kids would be like noooo I'm not reporting on that lol :)
Ok, glad that made sense. I'm pretty biased in regard to my daughter, so it's nice to hear that other people think she's pretty awesome as well. :)
Ur such a white mom. Kids would love this.
Do you have to run the burn cycle every time?
Yes. You can use the toilet while it is in the middle of a burn cycle as well. Just hit the start button again and it effectively starts a new burn cycle. If you just pee in there, you can choose not to 'flush it' and do so after using the toilet a second time. That's an option. Does that make sense?
What happens with liquids, does that burn/evaporate as well? Is the leftovers usable as fertilizer or anything??
It turns everything into dust. Liquids are evaporated. The fine dust that remains can be easily disposed of every so often. Not sure if it would have a high value as a fertilizer or similar.
Where do I order I want one since 2007 Prox even now no info to own
Hi. You can go to www.incinolet.com to check out the current models and pricing on these.
Some years ago when I first saw this brand of incinerating toilet, they had electric, propane, and kerosene models (not sure if they still have all three types -- I'll have to look). To combat any exhaust smell they had a catalytic unit that installed in the vent pipe and removed the smell, otherwise run the vent pipe up to above roof level and attach a rain/snow cap.
On the electric model that you have, what is the amperage requirement (assuming 120 VAC/60 Hz line)? Is it 15, 20, 30, 50...Amps?
Nice review. :)
Thanks! Yes, I've seen some of the other incarnations of this as well. I believe that mine is hooked up to a dedicated 10AMP breaker...possibly a 15. Not sure. I run the whole house on 30AMPs. That works for the most part with only occasional tripping of the breaker when I'm using too many things.
@@TinyIndustrial It states on the site that it needs a dedicated 20amp breaker.
@@tegan71969 he could have the temp turned down. Whatever the rating for wattage use is, it's always based on max settings, this is required by law. So if his heat isn't tuned up to max, this could easily operate on a 15 amp breaker. I also have multiple 1,500 watt space heaters that I have ran on 15 amp circuits (15 amp rated wire and 15 amp breakers). It's easily doable.
Yes, I keep it lower so that I don't exceed the overall amps. Would rather have an individual breaker pop than all the lights going out at once. Ten seems to work fine for the most part.
How often do you burn it? Once a day? After X number of uses?
Hi. You run a burn cycle after every use. If you use the toilet during a burn cycle (that's fine to do), you simply hit the start button again and it resets the clock on the burn cycle and starts a complete burn cycle again. Hope that answers your question?
I’m wondering is you can use this with a fixed structure. Meaning can I put this in a fixed cabin and just use a grey water tank for my other plumbing?
Sure! Why not? As long as you have a source of power to run the thing you'll be fine in a fixed structure or a tiny house on wheels.
May I ask what song is playing in the background throughout the video? Love it!
Good question... I'm not sure. I have some royalty free music that I purchased and I grab whatever I feel works for the video. Thanks for reaching out.
Does it get hot? if not i will consider buying it.
The exterior of the toilet does not get hot. It's all very well insulated and contained.
Here’s a tip even though I’ve never used one.
Always have those liners set up and ready Incase of emergency
They are always close by. Don't take long to get in place...
I think the ashes can be used on gardens and turned into the soil, as plants need ashes.
Definitely. I'm not sure I'd want to spread that ash on my lettuce or similar, but yes, the ash is inherently good for the soil and the kind of application you are referencing.
She's super Cute!!! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Appreciate you sharing this review. I have planned on buying this toilet for my tiny home which is in the planning & financing stages . I did not know how much energy they consumed. What kind of set up would it take to use it off grid?? is it possible at all?
Hi. Yes, it is 'possible' to use it off grid. It comes down to whether or not it still makes sense to have this toilet in that kind of scenario though. A flush on the incinolet is about 2Kwh of power. From there you can figure out what that would take in regard to batteries and solar cells to charge those batteries. Figure maybe two flushes (night) as a conservative nightime/no recharge scenario. I think you'll find that it will require big money in batterie$ and panels. As I said, there is likely a better option for your off grid set up. Hope that helps.
@OC Strangest There are propane option which uses 12 volts for ignition
in my estimation you will need a 300ah battery (better would be 3 100ah batts in serious to increase the voltage maybe 4 as 48v is more common than 36v) higher power systems work better at higher voltages.
that is enough power for ONE FLUSH (4x100ah is enough for 2 flushes) then depending on where you live for example here in NM I bet I could get away with 3x400w solar panels or 4x330w solar panels. IE use the toilet at night. then in the morning solar panels charge up the battery in about 3 hours then you can use it again. every 3 hours with good sunlight. go with a couple more solar panels and during the day the solar will almost match power consumption.
The toilet is crazy expensive at $2300 but the CONSUMABLE cost (E and liners) is also quite high almost $1 per use. so twice a day is $60 a month. around $800 a year if used twice daily. so the ROI on the solar battery setup at least won't be too long especially with used panels. around 3 years I would guess which is not such a bad ROI actually.
Cinderella I believe.
Thanks for doing that math.
I'm not sure of my electric amps..etc? With my home, what if my home isn't 20amp..lol I know I'm dumb but do you think an electrician can install more amps if I don't already have 20 amps..in my circuit breaker.?
I'm not sure how equipped I am to answer your question, but think of of the level of electrical service as being a theoretical maximum of power you can use at one time. Power needs go up and down depending on what we are using. If you have a lot of things that have high power consumption (AC, toaster oven, electric baseboard heat, electric clothes dryer, electric stove, hair dryer, etc.) they all compete for the available power. If you have an insufficient amount of overall power (that's that amp service rating), you'll get to a point where somethings got to give and you will either trip an individual circuit breaker or the main circuit breaker.
The Incinolet just happens to represent one of those high usage devices I listed out. If you don't have too many of those things, you should be just fine, but if your electrical service is already marginal for the amount of stuff you are running off of it, well then adding something like an Incinolet will not lead to a good outcome.
It's best to get an electrician involved and discuss your specific scenario with them and they'll be able to offer up custom solution for your situation. Hope that helps!
@@TinyIndustrial yes! Thank you
You are welcome.
1 kw per flush per the mfg. in michigan at this point, out the door cost is like .25 cents per flush
Yup, that sounds about right. Not bad right?
How does it compare to the newer Cinderella Incinerator that is crazy mor expensive? Would you recommend its propane option?
As you said the Cinderella is really expensive and therefore never really made it onto my radar. That said, the Cinderella is a nice toilet. Just not sure it's worth the extra money. Would love to do a comparison video on the two of them...
Thanks for the great video. One question: Did you purchase in the US or Canada?
Hi there. I bought this unit in the US. Why do you ask?
Have been looking at composting toilet for my tiny home. Not sure about incinerator approach. How about smell?
Different toilets have different advantages for different situations. I love the Incinolet since it was the best solution for my particular house setup. The smell is minimal. If the combustion smell bothered you, you could always run a longer exhaust pipe up to the roofline of the house. That would eliminate all odor. It doesn't bother me, so I have done that.
Welp..my only disappointment is with the urine. It kust seems to have problem evaporating liquid, but that is because surface heat can burn solids but cannot readily get the pan hot enough to boil and evaporate urine. That needs to be done by heating the bottom of the pan like boiling water on the stove (however I have secured a netter option). BUT i will say this, for what I can do with the unit it works great on #2 with paper NOT wipes, but paper. The ash works great for garden and other fertilizer uses, because it is completely sanitized. Hope this helps.
Yup, completely agree. Thanks for the comment.
Question: Can one use water to clean oneself after using this type of toilet? Where I´m from, we always use water whether it´s number 1 or 2.
Not sure what you mean? If you mean washing your hands, yes, that is still recommended after you use this toilet.
@@TinyIndustrialI think they mean a bidet
@@hmmm2564 Never seen a bidet in a tiny house. If the question is: Could you add a bidet toilet seat to an Incinolet? The answer to that would be 'no'.
@@TinyIndustrial besides the bidet seat, there is bidet sprayer. It is not attached to the seat but next to it.
@@TinyIndustrial Thank you for replying. I meant, instead of toilet paper, most people in the world wash their privates with water after relieving oneself (by pouring water). We have a "water can" that we fill with water. Bidet is only in rich countries. So I guess..the answer is that these toilets cannot tolerate having water taken in?
Does it make that noise for the whole hour/burn cycle? Sounded pretty loud to me. Great vid! Thanks!
Yes, that's the vent fan that you are hearing. Pulls the smoke out of the house and vents to the outside. Without an active fan extracting air, this toilet would smoke up the house pretty bad... It is a bit loud, true. I can sleep fine though even with it running. Kind of like white noise.
How many watts does it use?
Please go to www.incinolet.com for all the various specs of the unit.
So is the solar panel option completely out of the question for the source of the toilet or would I have to increase the amount of solar I get
I would say that using solar to power this toilet is not impossible, but it's highly impractical given the massive amount of equipment needed to do so. There is likely a better toilet scenario for you if you have only solar to depend on for powering this device.
The "Lavio" would be much safer -- it wraps everything up into a neat little pavkage for easy and sanitary disposal.
Yes, that's a popular one for sure. Definitely the winner in the 'ease of use' category. Lots of people complain about the cost of the cartridges though.
@@TinyIndustrial Right you are. The Lavio is expensive to use.
Yup...
I have a bathroom fan at the top of my restroom. Will this suffice or do I need to cut a hole into my tiny home?
Hi. The toilet needs a dedicated vent. Exhaust exits the back of the toilet and needs to be routed to the outside. Simply having a vent in your bathroom would not suffice. You need to run the exhaust from the back of the toilet to the outdoors. Hope that helps.
what is the cost for this kind of toilet?
They are about $2500. Cheaper than drilling a well and putting in a septic system. :)
i just got an incinolet and it DOES smell up my tiny house..... sucks. i should have just installed a septic system
Sorry to hear that. Not the case for me. Is it venting properly to the outside? Maybe there is some sort of leak in your vent set up?
Would it still get enough power if you have solar Is on a cloudy day or if it's raining?
I'm really interested in incinerator toilets butts but I'm not sure if they would get power during snow season or rainy days.
It all comes down to how many panels you have and how much storage capacity (batteries ) you have available to you. Anything is possible in this regard. It's just that it doesn't always make sense to do it a particular way. You know what I'm saying?
Installed for my grandmother. Had to put over old toilet flange and rubber pads to lift it level off floor. Connection to pvc with rubber union seems weird. Ran straight through. My dryer vent was cracked from incinolet so had to buy a new one at HD. Do you know if flushable wipes are okay for this?
Hi. Nice of you to get one of these for your grandmother. In regard to flushable wipes...I would imagine that it would work. That said, I wouldn't recommend doing it. 1) they will burn less readily since they are wet. 2) they may contain some form of alcohol, which would definitely be bad if that were the case. 3) not sure how 'clean' they burn. Scent, odor, toxic fumes, etc. 4) not sure what and how much residue they leave behind. May lead to adhesion to burn chamber. More frequent need to clean and so on.
Bottom line is it could go fine for a while, but I wouldn't do it. You can check on their site to see if they have an official answer to that particular FAQ. Hope that helps. What prompted the switch to electric for her?
@@TinyIndustrialthsnks!! Her cottage on lake septic problematic. So we switched over to this seasonal solution. Dedicated 240v, seems to work well. I wanted to ask company also if pvc and flange min distance as this is a cottage, my pipe is literally 8" to outside with dryer vent. Was worried it would blow buring debris. Blower seems way stronger than I thought. I assume screen prevents that inside unit.
Great. 240V is likely a much better experience than my 110V. I think that the burn cycle is shorter overall on the 240. They are built like tanks and I haven't had any issues with mine in the years that I've had it (intermittent use). I have never seen any debris or similar be expelled from the pipe. Mine (as you can see in the video) points down at a 90 degree angle with a guard to keep vermin out. This has always worked fine. Emits a bit of smoke at the beginning of the burn cycle and then that's about it. Hope your grandmother is as happy with it as I am.
Hi! Thanks for your video. I have seen your comment regarding Airbnbs and that you wouldn't recommend in that scenario. I live in Hawaii where we don't have sewer systems so, to be environmentally conscious, I am trying to avoid adding anymore toilets to the cesspool. I think this would be a good solution but am also worried about the guests not using the liner. My setup would be outdoors so my first question is: if the guest forgot to use the liner could I just hose the whole thing down and let it drain off the wood platform? 2. Does the liner really catch all the waste? We have a household member with IBS (which can be kind of explosive sometimes) it seems that the bowl and lid would need to be hosed down regularly to stay clean since there's no water passing through and the paper liner doesn't look like it's a perfect tight seal fit. Any thoughts on that?
Thanks for the comment. Not using a liner is a disaster. An ex girlfriend of mine peed into the unit without a liner. Urine ran out the bottom of the unit and I needed to take it apart and did a clean out. Since it has electrical components "hosing it down" is not an option. In regard to the second part of your question, the liner catches 98% even in dire situations. The remaining two percent can be eliminated with some 409 spray and some rubber gloves and a few paper towels. Not fun, but you'd have to clean a conventional flush toilet in some way on occasion as well at some point.
Yes, in the end lack of liner use would be my main concern with Airbnb guests...
We have one of these toilets but I wonder if you you ever experienced problems with it like not working properly when out of level?
Hmm. No, never had a problem with that. Sometimes my house is not perfectly level since it settles over time and needs to be re-leveled occasionally. I've never had that have any impact on the toilet however. What issues are you having?
Sorry to be commenting on a 3 year old video lol But would you still recommend this today? My thought is to install an incinerator toilet in a semi truck. The Cinderella brand offers a travel model, will this cheaper one be alright bumping around nearly 24/7?
Yes, yes and yes. Not sure about the Cinderella travel model. Can you provide a link to that? I'm not familiar with it. Also not sure if any of these toilets would work well in a truck. I have not seen that implementation. Air pressure from driving in conjunction with the vent process from this kind of toilet would likely cause some undesirable results.
1.5 hour of burning? What is it running on please?
It's running on electricity. Like a mini oven. All that enters it turns to dust after 90min.
90 minutes to bake a piece of sh1t? Why don't you just compost it? That's my POV
@@adrianbachorec6526 having ish in your house
Ash is better than ish.
Did you know that any poo will turn to compost after 6 months, so this toilet is a complete nonsense to me.
That would be great for a House Boat living docked . You would need one with a holding tank too.
True. Great for a lot of solutions. Shed conversions and auxiliary dwelling units as well.
She is going to grow into a Knowledge-Abled Young Lady! Fantastic!!
She already is. Thanks!
How many inserts do you get?
They sell them in boxes of 400 I believe. About $20 for a box.
I am wondering if adding baking soda, vinegar with lemon/orange peel and/or used coffee grounds before each flush can improve the smell during burning
Good question. 1) the smell during burning is really not that bad 2) I'm not sure that burning anything other than what it's intended to burn is a good thing. My vote would be not to do it. If you have an issue with the smell while burning, I would suggest a taller vent stack, ie. up to the roof line. That way you won't smell a thing. Are you pondering buying one of these?
Your daughter was very funny! Did you coach her to give that funny stare look when you asked her what's in the burnt chamber? That literally had me rolling in laughter 🤣
Cute kid...really down to earth and she knows it is her weekly chore to empty the pan.
No coaching involved. I did edit out a lot of her 'I don't know' responses to my questions though.
Thanks. Actually, that would be me that empties the pan. Not sure she know how to do that...although it's not a big deal to do so.
@@TinyIndustrial Daddies...do the work...that's what daddies do.
That's right.
Great content! I’d love to do a van install with this. Not sure how it would work in a wet bath though? You’ve got that Dax Shepard vibe going on.lol
Thanks! Dax Shepard, I've gotten that before and consider it to be a big compliment since he's a few years younger than me. ;)
On a sadder note, would strongly advise against using one of these in a wet bath. Electricity and water are not a good combo plus running one of these in a van would require a some form of electricity to be available on a broad and abundant basis. Wouldn't recommend for your situation. :(
In a wetbath , should be electrifying. 😅
Yes, not a good idea for sure.
An hour and a half??? What about days when you have diarrhea? It needs its own generator! I thought this would be great for my camper but I don't know if I can supply that much energy.
How much would you say this thing weighs?
Yup, about 75 to 90 min. You can use the toilet again during those 90 minutes. You don't have to wait for it to finish the burn cycle before using again. Just add a new liner, use, hit the foot pedal and hit the start button again. That resets the timer and a new 90 minute cycle starts. Unless you have a reliable and dedicated supply of electricity, I would not recommend you use this toilet. It's pretty heavy...about 30 to 40lbs I would guesstimate. Not for everyone, but perfect for my situation and needs. In a camper you may just want to go the RV toilet route or composting. Hope that helps!?
2 Incinerators.. $4000ish. Installing a septic system $8K-$12K. Seems like a good alternative to me. Anyone know if one of these can be ran while connected to a generator?
Totally agree. Plus, some places aren't even really suited for a septic install. Dealing with grey water is a whole lot easier than black and this gets you pretty far down the field to the goal. Thanks for the comment.
All of a sudden, baking becoming a very popular hobby ! I want to use that new air fry oven !
Yes, this is the same concept as an air fryer. I would only use it in that way brand new out of the box. :)
Yeah eventually someone will come up with same kind of idea but more energy efficient. I didnt understand about the water to the toilet though
Not sure when or how that will happen. For what it does, it's already pretty efficient. Not sure what you mean regarding the water comment? There is not water with this toilet. It burns/steams off any and all urine as well. Is that what you were referencing?
Do you have to incinerate after every use or can you wait until you've used it 2 or 3 times ???
You can pee in it a couple times and then run one burn cycle.