NOTE: This theme is not unique to these characters, it can play during other sections of the game as well. But will always play during their fight. The tone change at 4:28 will also always happen when one of the brothers are killed. That theme plays at other sections throughout the game too
Kill Hyperius first, and Tovarus mocks his defeat and says that Hyperius got what he deserved. Kill Tovarus first on the other hand, and Hyperius is actually heartbroken and vows to defeat you. Nice little touch in the difference of character.
The potential of these two was absolutely wasted. At the very least, they needed some sort of introductory cutscene. Every other boss gets a cutscene introducing them except for them and these are supposed to be some of the best the Banished have to offer. Listening to this, I could imagine the encounter playing out something like this. Chief is descending from the last AA gun, there are Banished troops all over the place, searching for him and the Echo-216. You start taking them out and a grunt at some point says, "We're done for! Where are the Spartan Killers?" A brute or elite may yell at them to hold their ground until the Tovarus and Hyperius arrive. Then, after you kill maybe half of the group there, a cutscene plays and we first see Hyperius' Chopper cutting through the terrain and leaping over rocks before coming to a halt at the edge of one of the cliffs on the island , the Chopper swerving the side to allow Hyperius a good view of the battle below. In my head it would sync perfectly with the music at 1:20 Tovarus follows just behind on a phantom. The two exchange some lines, I could imagine Tovarus chastising Hyperius for bringing his modified Chopper and considering it dishonourable, based on his supposed affinity for Elite culture and his lines if you kill Hyperius first. Hyperius then responding with something else before hurtling down the cliff with his Chopper towards Chief's position with Tovarus' phantom right behind and so the boss fight would commence. Furthermore I probably would have given the two more presence in the Banished cutscene's as well and have them talk and interact with each other and the other leaders of the Banished. Would help to flesh them out more as well as the other characters. Perhaps have one of them survive the battle and attempt to escape in a cutscene only for Jega to assassinate them for their failure.
Yes! I pictured something similar to you but instead of the phantom have a cinematic shot of Tovarus landing in the pod and screaming something at Chief and have the camera pan out like all the other boss fights do
I feel that way too these guys I looked up on google because they sounded scary and I was disappointed on how they were not on a cutscene and were easy to kill
I kinda wish these guys weren't killed off so early. There was also a concept art for a Skirmisher spartan killer. Imagine if we got that too. Imagine if Arby and Blue Team fought against the Hand of Atriox, meanwhile Escharum and Chief had their own 1v1 battle.
@@scrapper70 Yeah. Hopefully we get an origin story comic for Escharum like we got for Atriox. The comic could show how Escharum trained Atriox, witnessed the rise of the Banished, trained Jega and the other Spartan Killers.
Sounds really cool, like maybe these two would’ve have their own squads who have unique looks and are probably tougher than your usual Banished. It all could just be a way to make more money though.
@@contrapposto4636 which I didn't do. I just stayed Mobile with the Grapple hook, it did still take me a few tries, but he was still Nothing compared to the chieftain Ultra just before the Harbinger
I love that at around 4:31, it smoothly transitions from imposing terror to a more upheat, heroic tone, I think that starts after the death of one of the brothers. It REALLY helped set the tone of that, while these guys have earned the name of Spartan Killers by ruthlessly hunting down and killing several UNSC personnel on the ring, Spartans included of course, Chief was a Spartan among Spartans, and his reputation is even more fearsome than theirs - and it was his time to instill fear into the heart of the Banished, like they've been doing to the human survivors ever since they landed on Zeta Halo.
How to ruin a villain - place Locke's helmet and chest armour on the shoulder pad of a brute - let Mega Construx toys be the first to reveal this brute and begin speculation - reveal these characters as "Spartan killers" - say nothing else - wait an entire year for the game to come out - just when maximum hype and speculation is achieved, don't do any cutscenes, leave vague dialogue that doesn't truly explain lockes helmet, tease even more instead of actually delivering then kill these two off like they were nothing 343 ladies and gentlemen
You would think that it’s implied that Locke was killed, but there’s a figure of him in 4? Why do they have his helmet? Sounds like some fraud Spartan Killers.
They f*cking cut half the story about the Spartan Killers and etc, this game should've taken 6 literal years instead of just saying the game was in development for six years. It was obviously 3 or 2 years. They should've just delayed it to 2022 or 2023, we could've gotten a better release.
It sucks how their bodies despawn shortly after you kill them. I really wanted to get a closer look at them, like how one of them has some of Locke’s armor on his shoulder piece. That unique chopper should’ve been an unlockable vehicle too. Edit: Typo
Yeah I wish we unlocked that chopper too, I got too look at Hyperius's body after the fight to look at Locke's helmet but unfortunately the shoulder pad was shoot off 😂
Just beat these two on LEGENDARY in 5 minutes using the S7 Sniper Fifle and the Arcane Sentinal Beem. It was amazingly simple. "Spartan Killers? Please, you make it look easy"
If you kill the chopper brute first the scrap cannon brute will say “That coward deserved what he got! Now face ME Spartan!” But if you kill the scrap cannon brute first the chopper brute will say “BROTHER! NO! I’ll kill you for that Spartan!” Nice touch on their different personalities
I get the feeling their cutscene and dialogue were cut... I get the feeling they were gonna have lines mentioning Locke's fate but with his negative reputation from fans and fragile 343 not knowing how to handle critisms, they made his fate vague and not follow up his story...
It’s the only boss battle to take place outside I loved it. Thought it was really cool how you arrive and they are just tearing up the scrapyard and the pilots fate unknown
@@icommentandsunscribe yeah I was surprised when we kind of just stumbled upon them. I actually had a similar experience during my first play through fighting Bassus, no cutscene played out so every-time I turned around he was just standing there , I thought he was just a regular Chieftain.
NOTE: This theme is not unique to these characters, it can play during other sections of the game as well. But will always play during their fight. The tone change at 4:28 will also always happen when one of the brothers are killed. That theme plays at other sections throughout the game too
Kill Hyperius first, and Tovarus mocks his defeat and says that Hyperius got what he deserved.
Kill Tovarus first on the other hand, and Hyperius is actually heartbroken and vows to defeat you.
Nice little touch in the difference of character.
They seem to be the opposite of Pavium and Voridus
The potential of these two was absolutely wasted.
At the very least, they needed some sort of introductory cutscene. Every other boss gets a cutscene introducing them except for them and these are supposed to be some of the best the Banished have to offer.
Listening to this, I could imagine the encounter playing out something like this.
Chief is descending from the last AA gun, there are Banished troops all over the place, searching for him and the Echo-216. You start taking them out and a grunt at some point says, "We're done for! Where are the Spartan Killers?" A brute or elite may yell at them to hold their ground until the Tovarus and Hyperius arrive.
Then, after you kill maybe half of the group there, a cutscene plays and we first see Hyperius' Chopper cutting through the terrain and leaping over rocks before coming to a halt at the edge of one of the cliffs on the island , the Chopper swerving the side to allow Hyperius a good view of the battle below. In my head it would sync perfectly with the music at 1:20
Tovarus follows just behind on a phantom. The two exchange some lines, I could imagine Tovarus chastising Hyperius for bringing his modified Chopper and considering it dishonourable, based on his supposed affinity for Elite culture and his lines if you kill Hyperius first. Hyperius then responding with something else before hurtling down the cliff with his Chopper towards Chief's position with Tovarus' phantom right behind and so the boss fight would commence.
Furthermore I probably would have given the two more presence in the Banished cutscene's as well and have them talk and interact with each other and the other leaders of the Banished. Would help to flesh them out more as well as the other characters. Perhaps have one of them survive the battle and attempt to escape in a cutscene only for Jega to assassinate them for their failure.
Yeah I agree with everything you said. Very underwhelming bosses
Yes! I pictured something similar to you but instead of the phantom have a cinematic shot of Tovarus landing in the pod and screaming something at Chief and have the camera pan out like all the other boss fights do
I feel that way too these guys I looked up on google because they sounded scary and I was disappointed on how they were not on a cutscene and were easy to kill
@@cynthiasvambera51 I wouldn’t say easy to kill on legendary 💀
This comment is just so good. I agree, these brutes deserved better
I kinda wish these guys weren't killed off so early.
There was also a concept art for a Skirmisher spartan killer. Imagine if we got that too.
Imagine if Arby and Blue Team fought against the Hand of Atriox, meanwhile Escharum and Chief had their own 1v1 battle.
I wish we saw them more in general. Kinda came outa now where, killed them. And didn't even mention lockes helmet. Pure wasted potential imo
@@scrapper70
Yeah.
Hopefully we get an origin story comic for Escharum like we got for Atriox. The comic could show how Escharum trained Atriox, witnessed the rise of the Banished, trained Jega and the other Spartan Killers.
Sounds really cool, like maybe these two would’ve have their own squads who have unique looks and are probably tougher than your usual Banished. It all could just be a way to make more money though.
"They're sending out spartan killers. This is crazy Chief."
Spartan IV killers cause they got nothing on Spartan IIs, you would need someone like Atriox
@@alvzcizzler
But weren't the Spartan Killers trained by Escharum? The Brute who also trained Atriox?
@@WhyTho525 shhhh
The most rage inducing boss fight
No this title belongs to bassus
@@contrapposto4636 Bassus and these guys... Ive heard this music so many times due to me failing so many times
@@contrapposto4636 Bassuss was a piece of cake compared to these guys and Esharum
@@Boom__6678 psssh, yeah, if u place a bunch of fusion coils where he spawns and shoot them
@@contrapposto4636 which I didn't do. I just stayed Mobile with the Grapple hook, it did still take me a few tries, but he was still Nothing compared to the chieftain Ultra just before the Harbinger
I love that at around 4:31, it smoothly transitions from imposing terror to a more upheat, heroic tone, I think that starts after the death of one of the brothers. It REALLY helped set the tone of that, while these guys have earned the name of Spartan Killers by ruthlessly hunting down and killing several UNSC personnel on the ring, Spartans included of course, Chief was a Spartan among Spartans, and his reputation is even more fearsome than theirs - and it was his time to instill fear into the heart of the Banished, like they've been doing to the human survivors ever since they landed on Zeta Halo.
How to ruin a villain
- place Locke's helmet and chest armour on the shoulder pad of a brute
- let Mega Construx toys be the first to reveal this brute and begin speculation
- reveal these characters as "Spartan killers"
- say nothing else
- wait an entire year for the game to come out
- just when maximum hype and speculation is achieved, don't do any cutscenes, leave vague dialogue that doesn't truly explain lockes helmet, tease even more instead of actually delivering then kill these two off like they were nothing
343 ladies and gentlemen
343 can't create stories, they somewhat tried with 4 but please...
343 has zero creative taste.
You would think that it’s implied that Locke was killed, but there’s a figure of him in 4? Why do they have his helmet? Sounds like some fraud Spartan Killers.
They f*cking cut half the story about the Spartan Killers and etc, this game should've taken 6 literal years instead of just saying the game was in development for six years.
It was obviously 3 or 2 years.
They should've just delayed it to 2022 or 2023, we could've gotten a better release.
But Jega wasn’t wasted,he is in a new halo book we’re he did pretty mess up things
4:42 this part goes unimaginably hard
The fight was bad ass I just wish there was a cinematic with these two and more build up leading to the showdown
It sucks how their bodies despawn shortly after you kill them. I really wanted to get a closer look at them, like how one of them has some of Locke’s armor on his shoulder piece. That unique chopper should’ve been an unlockable vehicle too.
Edit: Typo
Yeah I wish we unlocked that chopper too, I got too look at Hyperius's body after the fight to look at Locke's helmet but unfortunately the shoulder pad was shoot off 😂
Just beat these two on LEGENDARY in 5 minutes using the S7 Sniper Fifle and the Arcane Sentinal Beem. It was amazingly simple. "Spartan Killers? Please, you make it look easy"
And that one liner from chief afterwards was the icing on the cake basically saying “skill issue” if you beat them fast enough
This boss has no right to have music this good.
Never knew these were a boss.
Would've been nice to see them more
@@scrapper70 would've been nice if that had an intro
If you kill the chopper brute first the scrap cannon brute will say “That coward deserved what he got! Now face ME Spartan!” But if you kill the scrap cannon brute first the chopper brute will say “BROTHER! NO! I’ll kill you for that Spartan!” Nice touch on their different personalities
I get the feeling their cutscene and dialogue were cut...
I get the feeling they were gonna have lines mentioning Locke's fate but with his negative reputation from fans and fragile 343 not knowing how to handle critisms, they made his fate vague and not follow up his story...
“Behold Your Enchroaching Death”
These knuckleheads, take it eassy
Fight was good a lot of people hate it but I don’t:) welcome to halo hyperius and torvarus!
It’s the only boss battle to take place outside I loved it. Thought it was really cool how you arrive and they are just tearing up the scrapyard and the pilots fate unknown
@@Kyzer4124 agreed
I just wish we had a cutscene w them in to flesh them out a bit, only bosses who don’t get at least 1
@@icommentandsunscribe yeah I was surprised when we kind of just stumbled upon them. I actually had a similar experience during my first play through fighting Bassus, no cutscene played out so every-time I turned around he was just standing there , I thought he was just a regular Chieftain.
@@lambdaweaponscache5394 that’s because you’re Bassus bro