3 Heavy Loadouts For High Elo

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @inflatablefish921
    @inflatablefish921 25 дней назад +31

    meanwhile, light remains a detriment to their team in 90% matchups

    • @lobefish5006
      @lobefish5006 24 дня назад +2

      I wish this wasn’t true… but it is. :(

    • @ABZTRXT
      @ABZTRXT 24 дня назад +1

      I play light with m11 grapple gateway glitch nade and stun, gateway and grapple guarantees plug real quickly glitch nade for all the mesh on other teams and defib + heal beam stun to stop steals and to get a quick pick not too bad tbh, medium would prob be better but teams aren’t used to lights running around and stuff works for my team 🤷‍♂️

    • @stableben
      @stableben 24 дня назад

      not really bro if u run into these guys or any high mmr stack on kyoto they’ll have a light running mm rifle on top of the buildings. its pretty aids to play into ngl

    • @SmokinTonic
      @SmokinTonic 23 дня назад +1

      @@stableben rather deal with that than triple M pike imo

    • @stableben
      @stableben 23 дня назад

      @@SmokinTonic yeah both are not very fun to play against lol

  • @EliteCustodes
    @EliteCustodes 25 дней назад +36

    I reached diamond with winch + sledge, prox sensor, rpg and dome. I often swap prox sensor for either pyro mine or C4 depending on what I need, and I got the SA12 in reserve for last round where sledge is often too hard to make it work. Last reserve slot is either barricade or goo grenade, though I honestly prefer the goo grenade more and more. It feels more consistent than barricade in high pressure situation, cuz you can't place a barricade if there's just a tiny pebble blocking it. Goo grenade doesn't have this issue.

    • @EarthVasawat88
      @EarthVasawat88 24 дня назад +1

      Nice loadout! What situations make you choose between prox sensor, pyro mine, and C4? Also, which slot do you swap for goo grenade/barricade? And on what round?

    • @EliteCustodes
      @EliteCustodes 24 дня назад +3

      @@EarthVasawat88 in premade with my usual mates (good players) I take prox sensors cuz it's very good to set up fights when defending. Having a free wall hack while the other team don't know where you hide makes it easy to choose when to engage and pick the first kill. It's also a good gadget to have if you get 3rd party often, it can give you an edge in chaotic situations. Especially with the sledge where you can hide behind a wall and ambush RMB to ohko lights/mediums.
      If I'm not playing with my usual mates and/or worse players, I take C4. It's better for solo carry cuz you can play passively and pop it to move the cash safely. You can basically defend a cash alone if you play well, or at least gain enough time for your team to come help you or even respawn.
      Lastly I use pyro mine either when I solo Q in casual cashout (not ranked), or if my mate wanna play heavy so he can take C4 or prox. I think pyro mines are awesome and underrated asf, they're really good to use if you can move the cashout somewhere where it can't get dropped down the floor. You can put 1 mine on the cash and 1 close by where you think a team might come from. If they shot them, the fire will still annoy them if you fight them near the cash. And if they don't shoot them, you can just rpg the cash and proc both mines yourself.
      And for your 2nd question, I usually swap my 1st slot for goo/barricade. I never play without dome regardless of the loadout, and I rarely remove the RPG either. The few times I remove RPG for goo / barricade, I always have the C4. I believe having destruction in your gadget is kinda mandatory on heavy, even if you play sledge. You can also replace RPG for HE grenades and just forget about RPG/C4, but then you shouldn't do it with a winch/melee build. This would work better with a charge loadout that you spec around 1v1 gun fight. Something like charge + deagle/lewis/M60, with HE nades, Dome, and last gadget any of the 3 I mentioned above.

    • @EarthVasawat88
      @EarthVasawat88 24 дня назад

      @@EliteCustodes Thanks a lot for such a detailed explanation! Really helpful info about how you adapt your loadout based on team comp and situations. Especially appreciate the breakdown of when to use prox sensor with premade teams vs C4 for solo carrying.

  • @RightClickGamers
    @RightClickGamers 24 дня назад +15

    Do you ever wonder how much of a meta is psychological? People that play a lot at the same ELO for a long time in games tend to get stuck with a certain image in their head or a mindset of how things "should" be. In Counter Strike a gun suddenly got popular because someone "discovered" it was good. Do you think there are any habits in The Finals that are similar? Do you think any of this effects what they think the meta or design direction of the game should be? Like if someone said nerfing something could be healthy for the game, but it's been strong for so long, would they disagree on principle?

    • @МилеевМатвей
      @МилеевМатвей 24 дня назад +1

      Well, the balancing is based mostly on what FEELS balanced and not what is balanced. Even things like sound of the gun shooting might impact how balanced it will feel (thompson in Wolfenstein:enemy territory). Some people just go of how the gun feels to shoot. Two of my friends absolutely HATE shotguns in Finals, and one of the them uses sr 84 and other the revolver. So it kinda safe to say that the guns in Finals are MOSTLY balanced, so it just comes down to preferences and team composition

  • @CalamityShreds
    @CalamityShreds 25 дней назад +35

    We're in for a "heavy" time running these loadouts in high elo. Get it, Appoh?

    • @burdenforever2564
      @burdenforever2564 25 дней назад +5

      I don’t lol I’m sorry but I just don’t get the pun

    • @AitkenAintDead
      @AitkenAintDead 25 дней назад +1

      Ziiiiiing

    • @William_Asston
      @William_Asston 24 дня назад

      ​@@burdenforever2564it was a little heavy handed.

    • @burdenforever2564
      @burdenforever2564 24 дня назад

      @@William_Asston been waiting for someone to help my dumb ass figure it out. Thank you.

    • @SmokinTonic
      @SmokinTonic 23 дня назад

      @@burdenforever2564 you're not dumb, it was a bad joke

  • @Andrewstown
    @Andrewstown 25 дней назад +21

    Hmm, very interesting video! Very useful loadouts! Only issue is… I don’t see the most meta loadout mentioned in this video. Where is the Charge N’ Slam, MGL32, RPG, Pyro Mine, Dome Shield loadout?

    • @runnin_myles8098
      @runnin_myles8098 24 дня назад +4

      That's a terrible build

    • @H_NGM_N5771
      @H_NGM_N5771 24 дня назад +2

      That's probably top 3 worst build heavy has.

    • @psychocat2607
      @psychocat2607 24 дня назад +3

      Im doing my part except I swap c4 for dome shield.

    • @einsamerkeks5977
      @einsamerkeks5977 24 дня назад +7

      Show those doubters andrew! Prove them wrong

    • @psychocat2607
      @psychocat2607 24 дня назад

      @einsamerkeks5977 yeah fuck the meta. Play what you like and win with it

  • @figgens123
    @figgens123 25 дней назад +7

    BIG BOISSSS HEREEE

  • @DARKwrldMJ
    @DARKwrldMJ 25 дней назад +3

    First load out but change shield for charge and slam and then it’s perfect

  • @mistawintaz
    @mistawintaz 25 дней назад +6

    6:50 wait, my man is canadian too?!

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  25 дней назад +1

      i sure am

    • @junkysnack486
      @junkysnack486 20 дней назад

      Hilarious, I looked at this comment right as he said that. Dead giveaway

  • @M17ch619
    @M17ch619 23 дня назад +1

    Never really tried The Finals properly but feel like I want to. Any beginners guide videos you'd recommend?
    Great content on builds for each class! I've got much to learn before picking though 😂

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  23 дня назад

      i have some stuff in the future, not many beginenr guides out atm but ill work on one hopefully soon but these vids take a while to plan and record etc

    • @M17ch619
      @M17ch619 23 дня назад

      @Appoh that's fair man. Only looked at the ones a month to 3 months old assumed the older ones are out of date.

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  23 дня назад

      @@M17ch619 yeah game changes a lot so content gets dry fast sadly

    • @M17ch619
      @M17ch619 23 дня назад

      @Appoh appreciate the replies

  • @argotheslicer1654
    @argotheslicer1654 25 дней назад +5

    3 fatman diets for high cal intake

  • @Ic3Man_Gaming
    @Ic3Man_Gaming 24 дня назад +6

    Pretty crazy with how strong the deagles feel to play against they dont even crack a primary slot in the high end matches.

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  24 дня назад +2

      the bloom holds it back from primary slot

  • @brisv9924
    @brisv9924 23 дня назад +4

    goo gun is the best.

  • @RyanHarnerMCF
    @RyanHarnerMCF 23 дня назад +1

    Do any of you have any tips for ranked this season? Me and my teammates usually run 3 mediums. I sometimes play with 2 of my teammates with comms but the rest of the time I only play with one teammate with comms. I am stuck between gold 3 and gold 2. I really wanna reach diamond but I cannot manage to rank up at all. Any tips?

  • @OmniscientPC
    @OmniscientPC 25 дней назад +1

    Honestly I’ve been switching between the SA126 / Lewis / and Deags all feel pretty good to use as long as you got a team to support you.

  • @theflare6306
    @theflare6306 25 дней назад +2

    The deconstructor
    Mgl, frag, rpg, c4. Dumb fun

  • @ShaoShaoMienshao
    @ShaoShaoMienshao 25 дней назад +16

    Is there some kind of secret with dealing damage with the SA-1216 shotgun? The thing fires marshmallows, the tiny ones you find in hot cocoa packs.
    I know you're supposed to use it within 5 meters, but it feels like the most garbage-tier Destiny 2 rapid fire shotgun ever made. Why not just Sledgehammer at that point???

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  25 дней назад +7

      sa1216 kills almost all classes faster than sledge

    • @wisp7741
      @wisp7741 25 дней назад +4

      So, you know how light can shred you with the M11 after decloaking? Yeah, the SA1216 does more DPS than the M11 with all headshots. Try it out in world tour where you can get easy shots on newer players

    • @OmniscientPC
      @OmniscientPC 24 дня назад +1

      If you have a team you run with, focus on snagging a pic and then making a coordinated dive because a heavy up close is far more dangerous than a heavy at range. Also keeping your reticle center for your shots plays a huge part as well. If you’re off center and half your spray misses you’ll lose a ton of damage.

    • @armintor2826
      @armintor2826 24 дня назад +3

      Treat it like a flamethrower. Its really only effective at flamethrower range, but it deals WAY more dps than the flamethrower ever can; so long as you can land those precious 4 shots per tube.

    • @noahrichesin6349
      @noahrichesin6349 24 дня назад +1

      Guess I’m the problem too 😂

  • @sucettebleu346
    @sucettebleu346 25 дней назад

    Started playing sa16 mesh after your interview with the heavy pro, very good tips, works well against the model medium meta as model is bad at breaking mesh
    Havent bothered using this loadout when it was op so now when I perform with it it makes me wonder how strong it really was

  • @unknownxiiv5269
    @unknownxiiv5269 23 дня назад +1

    Could I request a video where you play Ranked Tournamet from Gold 4 (or Lower) to Diamond in Solo Queue.
    Just like to see which Loadout is actually viable for Solo Players

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  23 дня назад

      I dont know about this one. I'm not much of a "smurf" type of player. I could potentially find a solo queue player and maybe collab

  • @RyanHarnerMCF
    @RyanHarnerMCF 25 дней назад +2

    Are you playing ranked with Andrewstown this season?

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  25 дней назад +1

      not really, we play wt sometimes. but the meta isnt very friendly atm, if im in ranked i only play with my team or else i tilt

  • @sSteppingStones
    @sSteppingStones 25 дней назад +1

    I use charge, lewis or deagles, RPG, frag, barricade.
    I preferer lewis over the M60 because the recoil is still fine on lewis and it has better range. The mag is also enough.
    Frag is my strangest pick but i can drop cashout with RPG and/or charge, then secure the room at the top with barricades and drop frags down on any team below.

  • @vins1769
    @vins1769 24 дня назад +2

    Guys, I'd like to know why lewis instead of M60?, the spray patter is alot clearer for m60 imo, anything else?

    • @gentlemanscarecrow5987
      @gentlemanscarecrow5987 24 дня назад

      Lewis is more accurate at longer ranges, at least IMO. Tap firing can do a surprising amount of damage and sometimes compete with longer range options like Famas and Pike users.
      Otherwise it's all preference.

    • @vins1769
      @vins1769 23 дня назад

      @ ok ic tysm!

  • @ellisfleming9972
    @ellisfleming9972 23 дня назад

    I’ve begun playing charge n’ slam, spear, barricade, c4 and rpg and I’m having good success. But it relies on my teammates a lot too

  • @kevinhowlett7126
    @kevinhowlett7126 23 дня назад +1

    Is M60 not better than Lewis anymore?

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  23 дня назад +2

      it never has been

    • @seengh
      @seengh 17 дней назад +1

      A lot of people are using it with the red dot and say that with the new recoil reduction, it is a lot easier to shoot at range than the Lewis. I can’t make my mind up though.

  • @Firmament66
    @Firmament66 25 дней назад +1

    great video

  • @StinkyMick99
    @StinkyMick99 25 дней назад +1

    HELL YEAH

  • @FelixRehkopf
    @FelixRehkopf 24 дня назад +8

    I am in top 200 and i see ZERO heavies running mesh and sa1216 i dont know what ur thinking but its copium

    • @user-ne9sd4ow1o
      @user-ne9sd4ow1o 24 дня назад +1

      It's not fun at all to play either. I'm casual, see absolutely no reason to use a boring shield and "the most OP gun". Charge n slam + KS23 = fun with a challenge! 😊

    • @psychocat2607
      @psychocat2607 24 дня назад

      ​@@user-ne9sd4ow1o I'm with you on this. Never had fun with mesh shield. So been playing charge and slam with mgl and ks23, my 2 favorite weapon. Better to get good while having fun.

    • @natemate454
      @natemate454 24 дня назад

      what would u recommend? im a relatively new player and i want to try playing heavy too

    • @psychocat2607
      @psychocat2607 24 дня назад

      @@natemate454 imo, just play what you find interesting. Try a bunch of weapon, stick with what you like and get good with it

    • @FelixRehkopf
      @FelixRehkopf 24 дня назад

      @@natemate454 my main is lewis gun or m60 with goo/baricade rpg dome and in resevere deagles c4 and nades

  • @PSYCHOMADTV
    @PSYCHOMADTV 24 дня назад +2

    I wanna get matched up again with Appoh 😢 💯
    THEFINALS❣️

  • @nou8830
    @nou8830 15 дней назад

    i'm only plat but i'm getting higher and higher with charge and slam, ks23, rpg, c4, dome. Mastering the ks can yield great results in combos but it's a loadout that does require me to be locked in, rpg can be swapped for frags, ks can be swapped for preferred heavy weapon but lewis or sa work best. Most effective with another heavy, but can work with mediums or even medium light if yo fight with a rabid dog mentality of kill them before they can kill you.

  • @SomeGuy-qd3li
    @SomeGuy-qd3li 24 дня назад +2

    Sad to not see ks32

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  24 дня назад +2

      yeaaa ks23 honestly not bad i just dont like the bloom, kinda why the deags are mid, but lewis and sa12 are pretty solid. ks23 is really good too though, just feels more niche

    • @SomeGuy-qd3li
      @SomeGuy-qd3li 24 дня назад

      @Appoh ks32 is strange because because I genuinely think it reigns supreme in TA. I think its one of those weapons that you have to spend a ton of time to get amazing results with it. Similar to mgl32, revolver and dagger. I'd love to see your take on high elo terminal attack loadouts but I would not subject you to the torture of downtime hell lol

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  24 дня назад +1

      @@SomeGuy-qd3li lol i did when ta mattered, im done with it for now

  • @agedgouda8809
    @agedgouda8809 25 дней назад

    Is the Lewis gun better than the m60?

    • @MERCHUNTS
      @MERCHUNTS 25 дней назад +2

      I just hit Platinum using M60, RPG, Grenade, and Dome shield. But to answer your question I’d say no. M60 had 70 rounds compared to 47 on Lewis. M60 has a red dot making it easier to view targets when shooting. M60 also is much easier to control during sustained fire (especially after the 4th shot it’s almost flat). Also better rate of fire. Lewis does slightly more damage, for ex in killing a medium the Lewis kills faster by only a few milliseconds. M60 just better option imo.

    • @deegee6062
      @deegee6062 25 дней назад

      they each have separate strengths and weaknesses, the lewis gun has better range and less recoil, and the M60 has its insane mag size, the TTK values for both of them are within milliseconds so pick your poison, the lewis gun is better at 1v1 duelling and the M60 is great for breaking shields or laying down a lot of suppressive fire for your team

    • @agedgouda8809
      @agedgouda8809 25 дней назад +1

      @@MERCHUNTS interesting, good to know

    • @MERCHUNTS
      @MERCHUNTS 25 дней назад

      Negative. M60s recoil is better compared to the Lewis gun. That’s not an opinion that’s a fact. Just look it up. But I do agree at the end of the day use what feels better for you. And duels will depend on who lands better/more hits. If you land them first. You’ll win

    • @agedgouda8809
      @agedgouda8809 25 дней назад

      @@deegee6062 tbh the m60 recoil feels slightly easier to control for me than the Lewis. They both feel good tho, interesting that the Lewis seems to be the “meta” pick still

  • @TROOPERG
    @TROOPERG 23 дня назад +1

    Where's the spear loadout appoh

  • @SmokinTonic
    @SmokinTonic 23 дня назад

    great vid. light buff when

  • @ShaoShaoMienshao
    @ShaoShaoMienshao 25 дней назад +1

    C4: What does "play for drop" mean?

    • @lowly309
      @lowly309 25 дней назад +4

      basically putting a c4 on a cashout and then detonating it to drop it a floor when the enemy starts to capture it

  • @ronin_fps
    @ronin_fps 24 дня назад +2

    Absolutely called that mesh would still be good after nerfs and that everyone was overreacting

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  24 дня назад

      yeah mesh still goated, although ngl sword is kinda ruining its strength sadly

  • @p00pie
    @p00pie 25 дней назад

    Heavy needs a Black Ops 3 Jetpack. Like and subscribe if you agree.

    • @mistermorgan
      @mistermorgan 23 дня назад

      Nah that’d be crazy. Heavy using a jet pack and breaking through a window with a sledge would be terrifying

  • @USConnexion
    @USConnexion 16 дней назад

    Lot of legit players in this game 😂

  • @tx9chris8
    @tx9chris8 24 дня назад

    i agree with all but the c4 its just for some reason i cant seem to time it right by the time i throw and detonate im almost dead 😅also i love the deagles but there bad close range

    • @gentlemanscarecrow5987
      @gentlemanscarecrow5987 24 дня назад

      Once you learn the approximate throw distance of C4, you can start to use it a bit like a slow, chunky grenade. If an enemy is chasing you down, you can set a trap for them. You always wanna make sure you're not in the radius because the self-damage is huge, and using it reactively rarely works. It's best to place it preemptively and to remember that shooting your gun, grenading, or RPGing will always be more immediate damage, but the C4 can really add to your versatility.
      Also don't forget that you can still place two C4 charges after it cools down, so putting two on a cashout or one on on each of the two floors below the cashout can significantly help you out.

  • @TheEnemy10225
    @TheEnemy10225 24 дня назад

    Why no m60 in the lewis loadout?

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  24 дня назад +1

      @@TheEnemy10225 i think lewis is better

    • @TheEnemy10225
      @TheEnemy10225 24 дня назад

      @Appoh fair enough. I always thought m60 was way better bc of the huge mag, red dot, and practically identical ttk

    • @sSteppingStones
      @sSteppingStones 24 дня назад +1

      Lewis is better cuz the mag is still very big, it has much better range and the iron sight is not bad

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  24 дня назад +3

      @@TheEnemy10225 ITS RANGE IS ASSSS

    • @zsideswapper6718
      @zsideswapper6718 24 дня назад

      ​@@Appohreallll, the M60 shoots nerf darts at range loll

  • @SomeGuy-qd3li
    @SomeGuy-qd3li 24 дня назад +1

    Didn't swako say that mesh is pretty worthless rn?

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  24 дня назад +2

      in comparison to the old one sort of, but like I said as time has gone on slowly people are crawling back to it because it jsut took time to adapt, seems theres a good even split of users on diff specs but i see more mesh users in high elo, but honestly not a lot of heavies in general

  • @keinstein69
    @keinstein69 24 дня назад

    Whats your take on the winch? Am i the only one who thinks its completely overpowered and basically a free kill?

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  24 дня назад +1

      @@keinstein69 vs good players you often adapt to this, playing range or baiting winch etc. Its good but not op

    • @Ic3Man_Gaming
      @Ic3Man_Gaming 24 дня назад

      I still think the best part of winch is just the cashout manipulation. Like having that extra option on top of just killing someone to just pull a Patrick and "take it and push it somewhere else" is so valuable.

  • @snaggyak
    @snaggyak 24 дня назад

    No m60?

    • @gentlemanscarecrow5987
      @gentlemanscarecrow5987 24 дня назад

      M60 is good but honestly it comes down to preference. I like Lewis better because I can squeeze out damage at further ranges than the M60. After playing with both a lot this season, it becomes noticeable how hard it is to do any meaningful damage with the M60 from further out.
      The red dot sight and the huge magazine are very nice though so if you're only really playing at close to mid-range then you might prefer M60

  • @Durzza
    @Durzza 24 дня назад

    i played light today for the first time in 3 seasons just to se ehow much easier it waws
    whole lobby quit
    we won by just going for TDM
    light is the reason why people dont play the finals
    light isnt fun to paly against
    its horrendous that invisibility was given to the class with the strongest guns and fastest movement tech.
    the finals WILL die a slow and uneventful death and i LOVE the game. im not stupid to its faults though. and light is something you encounter every single game and its reductive to the gameplay loop of the finals. i will never get off this soap box

  • @yashuab.2979
    @yashuab.2979 24 дня назад

    You're on PC, but half way through this video I was convinced you were on console and was thinking "DAMN! The console has some insane lock on!" because the aiming was just that perfect. Your aiming is impeccable, dude!

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  24 дня назад +1

      @@yashuab.2979 awwwe ty ty

  • @user-ne9sd4ow1o
    @user-ne9sd4ow1o 24 дня назад

    What does "Elo" even mean? 😅

  • @ALEXZANDER_YT
    @ALEXZANDER_YT 16 дней назад

    After lots of heavy kill nerfs, i abondoned this garbage

  • @bluorange7697
    @bluorange7697 25 дней назад +1

    5th

  • @mr.cookiezgaming9686
    @mr.cookiezgaming9686 25 дней назад +1

    second lol

  • @shahshank
    @shahshank 20 дней назад

    I completely disagree with the "meta". People just ride the over powered weapons. These load outs are boring

    • @Appoh
      @Appoh  20 дней назад +1

      @@shahshank dw i have some off meta / low elo stuff coming soon. I cover it all

    • @shahshank
      @shahshank 20 дней назад

      @Appoh let's goooo

  • @GoferON144hz
    @GoferON144hz 25 дней назад

    First

  • @Saltykernel
    @Saltykernel 20 дней назад

    Feels like the game devs hate anybody who doesn't want to play light right now. They keep nerfing everything I used to counter them. It's not even a fun game to play anymore unless you actually have a team

  • @swako4694
    @swako4694 25 дней назад +5

    sa1216. dome. rpg. c4.

  • @alialali571
    @alialali571 23 дня назад

    Try winch claw + flamethrower it's really fun and deadly..