@@shadynas7y were the previous metas really “model meta”? The model was good but I don’t remember it dominating enough to call the previous metas a model meta. And what’s sas?
I’m plat 3 and played against y’all about a week ago while solo queueing. Nice to see what kinda comms are going on that got us melted in .5 seconds every fight
reminds me of D2 comp, even with all the options in that game the matches always boiled down into a select few metas, shame this game has the problem but worse, the teamplay is mint tho
Honestly D2 is extremly worse, stasis, lord of wolves, last word, prismatic hunter, main ingredient, le monarqe, felwinter's lie, hard light, deadman's tale, the inmortal... at least on the finals you need to have some level of skill, in D2 all metas are freekills for braindead people
There's no way in hell you think the finals is worse then D2?? It takes literal years for metas to fully change in d2, and playing meta is far more oppressive in d2, it's not even close. I remember just playing cloudstrike/smg triple bubble titans with an exotic that could literally block supers every game for so long. If you played trials at this time, you know how aids this was. Let's not forget about shatterdive, striker titan, etc...
Always triple Healbeam/demat-defib-double movement-Model/Pike. About as entertaining as watching s*** dry on a the wall. This is why I will never give a damn about any ranked structure. It strips away the fun and replaces it with dictation. What's even more disheartening is that you have the ghost charm which means that you at least play other things but I don't think I've ever seen it.
i run whats meta, ive played any gun any specialization u can think of in this game. I'm forced to run the model because its the only gun worth running in ranked lmfao. dont blame me, blame embark.
@@lycommit I'm not angry at you I am angry at embark. However it would be far more entertaining to watch somebody achieve rank and express far more skill to use something off meta.
I played you guys in a final round the other day we got a cash out on you guys and wiped you a couple times felt pretty cool to give a bit of a challenge to some of the top guys
Why do you need 3 mediums carrying Jump and Zip? Wouldn’t it be more beneficial to have something like even one medium switch out just one of those for mines, for example, or frags? Either of those are perfect for zoning out teams camping rooms.
sometimes situationally someone might swap one movement gadget. i see other high ranked teams have one person run glitch mine or something instead of zip it's mostly preference
Nice, just something I noticed, I run the OP18k purple frost and even tho it's really good I'd recommend some gecko tapes, makes the damn thing even better for basically no money!
I just started playing this game and have the AK. It seems like there's no point in using a weapon that requires you to ADS when people can just sprint up and kill you in 2 shots while having fast movement.
At 11:34 you can actually jump off of the railing you’re standing on and mantle above that first window you’re looking at instead of going to the zip line like you did 👍
@@encozinelol i dont think this is the case. At least not actually, though he may believe it. New gen wireless mice are guaranteed to perform equally, unless its that one mouse with the weird actuation trigger that allows for faster physical inputs
@@pokeman123451 I might be the case because not everyone has your opinion and your thoughts. I'm a wireless user myself and I do get small lags once in awhile
Still meta? And I have a question: what do you think about good devices(keyboard+mouse+pad) for casual players? Will this boost them in fps games? p.s. Is square crosshair has some special secret?)
Mouse and having a big enough mouse pad is most important, but honestly, it doesn’t change. You don’t need the most expensive stuff, any half decent equipment will suffice. What is more important would be to have a good pc/monitor so you can have good fps. But anything over 60 fps is nothing to care much about for casual play.
@zoroverse8358 thanks for the answer. I wasn't a fan of fps games coz of bad pc, stressful and self-skill priority that it has. But rn I updated my PC to 7500f+3080ti+32gb ddr5 6400 cl32 xmp, also have 144hz fullhd IPS monitor. So I want to collect information that can improve my results in fps comp games. Rn I have asus m4 tuf wireless mouse(not that good but ok), random not mechanical 100% keyboard and red square nvidia gtx collab pad. Tried cheap mechanical keyboard, didn't like it
@GeGeza That is probably enough. If you want to maximize performance, upgrading your network could also help, especially if it is currently bad. Also try to use wired instead of wireless, though almost all wireless devices offer cable too. But once again, this is completely minuscule, and you probably won’t even notice a difference with these changes, especially for casual play, so it is nothing to stress about.
@@zoroverse8358wondering if you can help me out, I have a pc and it has such a hard time booting up the finals and handling itself after matches. It usually ends in a crash and unreal engine message. I have intel i5-13400f and 32 gb of ram and a 1000 gb ssd and it still just has so much trouble. I’ve tried deleting it and downloading it again, rebooting system everytime it happens, and deleting all temp/unnecessary files in the system. Nothing works and it still has the same issues. Some days it’s worse than others, some times I can’t even get into the game I literally tried for 2 hours yesterday and nothing. And then some days it works fine with like one minute delay on start up and frozen screens and stuff like that. Any idea what it could be? I’ve considered contacting the cpu company and asking for a warranty replacement because it’s just so bad and the finals is my favorite game but I can’t play it how I want to and can’t play with people because they get mad about me crashing.
It's sad to see that there are only medium players at the top of the ranking because this class is too overpowered due to the defibrillator. Edit : When I say the defibrillator is too overpowered, I'm talking about when there are multiple medium players on the team. It literally feels like playing 3v6.
I agree but I just think the other classes need easier ways to provide more utility. So in many ways, imo, it’s just that the other classes are underpowered.
i feel like even the current spread nerf did nothing. i tested it in the range and u can still 2-3 tap mediums and lights consistently up to 20 meters, which was the case even pre-nerf. essentially, nerf did absolutely nothing. between the gutting of the xp-54 damage AND buffing the falloff (they shouldve just nerfed the falloff), and this pointless on-paper nerf to model just to shut the players up; im not sure what embark is smoking anymore. deagles and pike are still broken as well. lights are straight up unviable, all their weapons are bad compared to other classes. cloak is just bad. dash is mid af. grapple is situational. stun-gun purely exists to deny reses and steals, extremely situational. any team will bait u and knock u once u swing for the interrupt. if u try to force duels to frag, even with off-angles ull lose %90 of the time. demat shouldve been introduced as a light gadget instead of medium gadget. with demat existing, theres no reason to play light ever aside from the gateway (even then picking light is throwing lol). just pick medium and force non-logical off-angles whenever and wherever u want. role-lock needs to be introduced. with the current balancing mental of the devs, light will never be a viable class ever. wont matter if they can plug or play to obj if at the end of the day they cant win a gunfight ever, theyll lose that cashout or wont be able to steal if needed. picking a light is just throwing pronto. its just boring fighting against MMM-HMM-HHM %90 of the time. and when i see any enemy team having a singular light, i just know theyre a free win lmao.
Now compare forearm movement (pc users) to only hand movement (console users) Dude has to move his forearm to get that crazy movement where as to console users only have thumbs 🤣
lol and computer players say they have worse movement and aim than console. YEA, OK. 😂😂😂 every game computer players are the best because of their frame rate and movement control, more gadgets to help than skill most the time when it comes to PC players.
@@mr.potato244 they need to revert the stupid dash nerf and bring back 5 second dash cd so you can actually escape all of the bs one shots in the game now.
And this shit is why The Finals players have dropped off from 250k allllllllll the way down to 20k. If it wasn't for console players, Nexon would have pulled the plug on this unbalanced shit-show. This is so boring to watch.
It is sad to see the state of the balance of the game, all skilled players have to play the no skill model, please commit try to communicate with the devs, u r well heard in the community, we need the ARs, LMG and SMG to be the main guns on this game not some niche weapons be the best (pike, model)
honestly pc is easier to hit shots especially with the model i feel like i play console but ppl who hit me with it are always pc players and i mean HIT me lol
@@jackprot351why do you need to comment this? The finals is one of the most fun games that have came out and it’s refreshing compared to other games. The whole meta thing sucks but that’s in every game
@@brandenr5937 It’s very fun and polished. But it doesn’t have the growth to keep going. Just giving advice to a young kid to stop wasting a fourth of his life on nothing. I wish it was bigger- maybe then the devs would be quicker to fix blatant terrible metas. But it is what it is. Just trying to keep it real. This is coming from a S4 diamond player. Granted I only played probably 20-30 games in ranked this season. It’s just the same thing over and over. You either get a lobby of platinums and scrape them, or you have to sweat your balls off against the same groups of 17 year old kids spamming pike and model. Not trying to hate at all. ❤️☮️
this is no more The Finals, it's The Models
@@tien5855 we love the model don’t we?
@@lycommit I dont
@@lycommit best weapon
I hate that piece of garbage
@@lycommit I main heavy so...
Wow 6 models with defibs? Feeling unique tonight i see.
It got him to rank 1, what's your rank? 🤷♂️ you care so much about what other people use on a free game its hilarious 🤣
Model v Model fights. So fun. So engaging.
@@shadynas7y hey man, i’ve been advocating for the model getting nerfed for 3 seasons i just run what’s meta
@@lycommit I feel you. Enjoyed the vid as always. Just saying the meta sucks
@@shadynas7ywhen does the meta not suck? People cry for everything 😅
@@podimegwu12 we're on our 3rd season of model meta and 4th of sas meta.
@@shadynas7y were the previous metas really “model meta”? The model was good but I don’t remember it dominating enough to call the previous metas a model meta. And what’s sas?
I’m plat 3 and played against y’all about a week ago while solo queueing. Nice to see what kinda comms are going on that got us melted in .5 seconds every fight
Nice Tony pfp
Much respect
So satisfying to watch 2 teams with mirrored strats pitted of against each other. Pure chaos. Love it 😄
reminds me of D2 comp, even with all the options in that game the matches always boiled down into a select few metas, shame this game has the problem but worse, the teamplay is mint tho
Honestly D2 is extremly worse, stasis, lord of wolves, last word, prismatic hunter, main ingredient, le monarqe, felwinter's lie, hard light, deadman's tale, the inmortal... at least on the finals you need to have some level of skill, in D2 all metas are freekills for braindead people
There's no way in hell you think the finals is worse then D2??
It takes literal years for metas to fully change in d2, and playing meta is far more oppressive in d2, it's not even close. I remember just playing cloudstrike/smg triple bubble titans with an exotic that could literally block supers every game for so long. If you played trials at this time, you know how aids this was. Let's not forget about shatterdive, striker titan, etc...
I have more respect for a team being rank #10 but being original and interresting to watch than the rank #1 just using the meta
they we're running the same exact comp what r u on about lmfao
@@lycommit You can still beat them and your win will be even more spectacular!! lets goo
sweatest gameplay i have seen
top of the top gameplay
Always triple Healbeam/demat-defib-double movement-Model/Pike. About as entertaining as watching s*** dry on a the wall. This is why I will never give a damn about any ranked structure. It strips away the fun and replaces it with dictation. What's even more disheartening is that you have the ghost charm which means that you at least play other things but I don't think I've ever seen it.
i run whats meta, ive played any gun any specialization u can think of in this game. I'm forced to run the model because its the only gun worth running in ranked lmfao. dont blame me, blame embark.
@@lycommit I'm not angry at you I am angry at embark. However it would be far more entertaining to watch somebody achieve rank and express far more skill to use something off meta.
@@lycommitwas the vid pre or post model nerf? And do you think the nerf was enough? Curious what a sweat thinks.
@@clintshidwood4511im pretty sure its pre-nerf. Otherwise, he'd have ruby rank
@ nerf wasn’t enough and this was pre nerf
I played you guys in a final round the other day we got a cash out on you guys and wiped you a couple times felt pretty cool to give a bit of a challenge to some of the top guys
@@PIMPhasbulla was fun!
Wow who would’ve guessed! Two MMM teams all running the model! This meta is honestly so much worse than season 1 nukes, and those were instant death.
Model is such a gay weapon now.
Dang you guys don't miss. Great video! It's fun to see how the best do it.
Why do you need 3 mediums carrying Jump and Zip? Wouldn’t it be more beneficial to have something like even one medium switch out just one of those for mines, for example, or frags? Either of those are perfect for zoning out teams camping rooms.
For being fast af boiii
sometimes situationally someone might swap one movement gadget. i see other high ranked teams have one person run glitch mine or something instead of zip it's mostly preference
One was running goo grenade at one point
Because metas don't let you make choices.
This can't possibly be fun to run triple medium model defib every match dawg
Whats wrong with ur fingers??
the battle of the models 😂
such diverse loadouts
Nice, just something I noticed, I run the OP18k purple frost and even tho it's really good I'd recommend some gecko tapes, makes the damn thing even better for basically no money!
10:47 who tf let this guy have #1. 😂😂
bro whiffs once and guys already hating🤦
Wait is that jump pad manipulation tech consistent? Like I saw you just place a jump pad near but not touching the cashout to move it up 20:18
Yes. If you place it near the top of the cashout it will launch. It has to be the top.
Cashout, surprisingly, has a very tall hitbox, so it allows these shenanigans
Wait you have a RUclips channel?! Let’s go
sick af
is that the drunkdeer keyboard?
Please take note that these are all Steam (probably M&K) players. How do console players compete with this?
take the note they are the 0.1 of the player base. aim assist already killed cod so we dont need another broken input in here.
ur def enjoying ur skills
Played you guys in a round 2 yesterday. Absolutely smoked us. Love the gameplay and thanks for keeping all of us humble 😂
Great video man!! Have you done any wt, if so what rank are you?
1887 domination in new season there will be another strong shotgun....
Any chance you could share your reticle settings?
I just started playing this game and have the AK. It seems like there's no point in using a weapon that requires you to ADS when people can just sprint up and kill you in 2 shots while having fast movement.
This video was recorded before The Model nerf. Right now the AK has better time to kill than The Model on medium (it requires 3 shots now)
At 11:34 you can actually jump off of the railing you’re standing on and mantle above that first window you’re looking at instead of going to the zip line like you did 👍
You can't shoot while you mantle though soooo
2:01 vape getting low
that shit was kicking my ass lowkey
What a professional gameplay
You are standing no chance against my random lights man
That rank update below your cam, how did you get that? I wanna switch content up and start making videos on this game and it looks really cool
WAIT HE HAS HIS SPECIALIZATION ON THE MOUSE!!!
I KNEW THAT WASN’T STUPID
the shotgun def needs a range nerf...the pellets are supposed to spread no?
Heal beam or dematerializer?
What keyboard do u use ?
Which medium weapon is the best in your opinion
The model
Is killing composition diversity rn
this game has changed a lot in only 3 seasons, i'm gonna ask but based off this video i should already know the answer, is light viable at all
If you’re really good with it but that’s the problem you gotta be good then it is but for 80 percent of the player base use heavy or medium
What’s better pike or fcar?
Model
Model
model
pike 😬
How to make that crosshair?
Ignoring the model hate for a second, you slayed king. WP.
What sensetivit u use?
why'd you switch to a wired mouse ?
It guarantees good performance without lags
@@encozinelol i dont think this is the case. At least not actually, though he may believe it. New gen wireless mice are guaranteed to perform equally, unless its that one mouse with the weird actuation trigger that allows for faster physical inputs
@@pokeman123451 I might be the case because not everyone has your opinion and your thoughts. I'm a wireless user myself and I do get small lags once in awhile
@ what mouse
@@pokeman123451 OP1 8k Gaming Mouse - Purple Frost Limited Edition (looks like this mouse)
whats ur crosshair settings?
Still meta? And I have a question: what do you think about good devices(keyboard+mouse+pad) for casual players? Will this boost them in fps games?
p.s. Is square crosshair has some special secret?)
Mouse and having a big enough mouse pad is most important, but honestly, it doesn’t change. You don’t need the most expensive stuff, any half decent equipment will suffice.
What is more important would be to have a good pc/monitor so you can have good fps. But anything over 60 fps is nothing to care much about for casual play.
@zoroverse8358 thanks for the answer. I wasn't a fan of fps games coz of bad pc, stressful and self-skill priority that it has. But rn I updated my PC to 7500f+3080ti+32gb ddr5 6400 cl32 xmp, also have 144hz fullhd IPS monitor. So I want to collect information that can improve my results in fps comp games.
Rn I have asus m4 tuf wireless mouse(not that good but ok), random not mechanical 100% keyboard and red square nvidia gtx collab pad. Tried cheap mechanical keyboard, didn't like it
@GeGeza That is probably enough. If you want to maximize performance, upgrading your network could also help, especially if it is currently bad. Also try to use wired instead of wireless, though almost all wireless devices offer cable too.
But once again, this is completely minuscule, and you probably won’t even notice a difference with these changes, especially for casual play, so it is nothing to stress about.
@@zoroverse8358wondering if you can help me out, I have a pc and it has such a hard time booting up the finals and handling itself after matches. It usually ends in a crash and unreal engine message. I have intel i5-13400f and 32 gb of ram and a 1000 gb ssd and it still just has so much trouble. I’ve tried deleting it and downloading it again, rebooting system everytime it happens, and deleting all temp/unnecessary files in the system. Nothing works and it still has the same issues. Some days it’s worse than others, some times I can’t even get into the game I literally tried for 2 hours yesterday and nothing. And then some days it works fine with like one minute delay on start up and frozen screens and stuff like that. Any idea what it could be? I’ve considered contacting the cpu company and asking for a warranty replacement because it’s just so bad and the finals is my favorite game but I can’t play it how I want to and can’t play with people because they get mad about me crashing.
The square crosshair outlines the 1887 pellet spread. If the entire square fits into a players character model, then you will hit all pellets.
Bros melting with a wired mouse 💀💀💀💀💀
I’m only plat 2 and I’ve had to play Leo and Spoons a couple times now, got rolled
what's the mouse?
Is this before the nerf?
lamp the goat
Hey what do you think about the model tweak? Still your go to?
@@CEO458 model is still king after nerf
Gone against you a couple of times😅
It's sad to see that there are only medium players at the top of the ranking because this class is too overpowered due to the defibrillator.
Edit : When I say the defibrillator is too overpowered, I'm talking about when there are multiple medium players on the team. It literally feels like playing 3v6.
I agree with medium being op, buy the defib isnt the problem.
As a medium player, I agree the defib is REALLY good, but other classes are crazy in their own right, like lights with their SMG and sniper
I agree but I just think the other classes need easier ways to provide more utility. So in many ways, imo, it’s just that the other classes are underpowered.
@@TH3INI7IALIST5 light isnt even in the conversation In this meta💀
@@strafe8293 I was giving an example of why other classes can still be good
This is cool as hell but man I'm glad I'm low rank so I can do stupid stuff lol
bro you're gonna get carpal tunnel if you keep playing with that mouse of yours 😅
i feel like even the current spread nerf did nothing. i tested it in the range and u can still 2-3 tap mediums and lights consistently up to 20 meters, which was the case even pre-nerf. essentially, nerf did absolutely nothing.
between the gutting of the xp-54 damage AND buffing the falloff (they shouldve just nerfed the falloff), and this pointless on-paper nerf to model just to shut the players up; im not sure what embark is smoking anymore. deagles and pike are still broken as well.
lights are straight up unviable, all their weapons are bad compared to other classes. cloak is just bad. dash is mid af. grapple is situational. stun-gun purely exists to deny reses and steals, extremely situational. any team will bait u and knock u once u swing for the interrupt. if u try to force duels to frag, even with off-angles ull lose %90 of the time.
demat shouldve been introduced as a light gadget instead of medium gadget. with demat existing, theres no reason to play light ever aside from the gateway (even then picking light is throwing lol). just pick medium and force non-logical off-angles whenever and wherever u want.
role-lock needs to be introduced. with the current balancing mental of the devs, light will never be a viable class ever. wont matter if they can plug or play to obj if at the end of the day they cant win a gunfight ever, theyll lose that cashout or wont be able to steal if needed. picking a light is just throwing pronto.
its just boring fighting against MMM-HMM-HHM %90 of the time. and when i see any enemy team having a singular light, i just know theyre a free win lmao.
hey, how do you get your crosshair to not move with your movement ?
Static crosshair in settings
Static reticle -> length = 2 , inner offset = 13, thickness = 26. adjust as per your taste ~
hey, i was actually talking about the "in world crosshair" settings which i didnt know existed until 2 days ago lol. thanks for the info anyway
is this before or after model nerf?
"nerf"
its before, model is still crazy after nerf
How do you get ur crosshairs like that
in the settings
set static crosshair to off
ggs
Model gonna nerfed again.
saw this on bilibili
Now compare forearm movement (pc users) to only hand movement (console users)
Dude has to move his forearm to get that crazy movement where as to console users only have thumbs 🤣
Might be one of the best fingertip gripping FPS players I’ve seen. Salute 🫡
Battle of Meta slaves
Why do you bag so hard against a sword that's 24k less elo than you?
cuz sword is cringe
@@lycommit You run triple stack model and one plat sword light pisses you off that much, please, be quiet.
@@RolliePollie454 yes it does.
bro's aim💀
Playing medium models and calling it pros. I got bored of medium that I play light crossbow and I'm pretty decent with it.
lol and computer players say they have worse movement and aim than console. YEA, OK. 😂😂😂 every game computer players are the best because of their frame rate and movement control, more gadgets to help than skill most the time when it comes to PC players.
Triple model meta is just disgusting and lame
Who cares what guns they got?! They are nasty with these shots! Keep up the work 💪
frfr
W's
im a simple man. i see 3 dudes playing meta i dislike
Meta slaves are not fun to watch.
people like frog and ronin are fun to watch
they all use the same weapons
Is this after model nerf
No, before - otherwise they would be all rubies instead of diamond rank
@@RobderBoblol Oh yeah true I forgot they just added that
i really hate how triple medium is meta, i really hope they figure out how to nerf medium so people stop stacking mediums
the true answer is buff the heavy and light
@mr.potato244 agreed
@@mr.potato244 they need to revert the stupid dash nerf and bring back 5 second dash cd so you can actually escape all of the bs one shots in the game now.
@@oneiwon the game less destructive just worng, it should be building falling all of the place
triple medium with models is lame as hell
And this shit is why The Finals players have dropped off from 250k allllllllll the way down to 20k. If it wasn't for console players, Nexon would have pulled the plug on this unbalanced shit-show.
This is so boring to watch.
Model nerf incoming...
what is this cringe meta non skill just monkey
welcome to the finals, meta is never fun to play against.
It is sad to see the state of the balance of the game, all skilled players have to play the no skill model, please commit try to communicate with the devs, u r well heard in the community, we need the ARs, LMG and SMG to be the main guns on this game not some niche weapons be the best (pike, model)
ive been trying to bro most people dont realize how much ive tried to get the mesh reverted, model nerfed ARs buffed but i can only do so much man
Reminds me of the good old arena shooters back in the day with insta gib rail guns and shit, UT and Q3A
@@lycommitnah what we need to worry about is riot shield my boy 😢
Cheaters vs cheaters wow fun
idk what is more gay - gl or modal
Go live bro
honestly pc is easier to hit shots especially with the model i feel like i play console but ppl who hit me with it are always pc players and i mean HIT me lol
pc is generally better for fps games, console is really only good for platforming and driving games.
@ you could not have said it any better i 100% think about this on a daily basis
Yoooooooooooo
Losing all their 3v3s yall are terrible, especially that Bizzy kid getting dogged constantly. Play all day that’s the only reason ur #1
bro did you even watch the video
such a cringe shotgun meta
"i'm not gonna play 12 hours a day this season"
proceeds to play 24 hours a day this season 😂😂😂
dude is doing tricks on it
also model zzzzzzzzzz almost fell asleep just trying to make this comment
@@Treyfuwu i play 6-8 hours a day get ur facts straight blood
@@lycommitYou need to find something else to do. This game is bleeding out, your time wasted will not pay off. Praying for you brother 🙏❤
@@jackprot351why do you need to comment this? The finals is one of the most fun games that have came out and it’s refreshing compared to other games. The whole meta thing sucks but that’s in every game
@@brandenr5937 It’s very fun and polished. But it doesn’t have the growth to keep going. Just giving advice to a young kid to stop wasting a fourth of his life on nothing. I wish it was bigger- maybe then the devs would be quicker to fix blatant terrible metas. But it is what it is. Just trying to keep it real.
This is coming from a S4 diamond player. Granted I only played probably 20-30 games in ranked this season. It’s just the same thing over and over. You either get a lobby of platinums and scrape them, or you have to sweat your balls off against the same groups of 17 year old kids spamming pike and model. Not trying to hate at all. ❤️☮️
whats the mouse sensitivity?