I greatly appreciate the shoutout! W vid btw! I have to say, the loadouts are all something I agree with. The Pike and Model are definitely the star of the show right now. The Pike launched completely OP and is better then every gun in the game, and the nerf hasn't changed that significantly at all. All it effectively did is make headshots less valuable and the range fall off matter a bit more when hitting shots/griefing from afar. And the model, well, the model is a victim. A victim of power creep. The model has received 0 changes and was always a very good weapon, even when it wasn't meta. Not nerfing the ranged damage fall off by the same % that they reduced EVERY SINGLE viable ranged weapon across L/M/H is just a big oversight on Embark's part since the range of the Model was meant to compete with those old ranged values. Some say a spread nerf is needed, and I would prefer it to stay a precision based weapon that can be effective at different ranges. A ranged drop off nerf, reducing the max damage hit from what I believe is 20m to a value of 12-15m would probably be best. As of right now, the weapon is definitely too oppressive and needs adjustments to bring it in with the rest of the pack. That all being said, I hope both of these weapons don't get the FCAR treatment and just get gutted to the point of not being viable against the more meta arsenal of weapons.
@@colinmcmasters5819yeah except role que would make the game boring as shit. Plus it’s not like the games that currently have role que are even doing well.
Hey guys, Andrewstown here. One of my Favorite loadouts to use with Medium is: Charge N Slam, MGL32, RPG, Pyro Mine, and finally, Dome Sheild! Enjoy. ;)
@@Andrewstown I’m very sorry I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings please forgive me! You are the best heavy player, heavy will get nerfed again single handedly because of you!
One of the most fun medium loadouts I’ve used has gotta be any AR with demat, flashes, data reshaper and defib (obviously) For light, using glitch and frags is really effective, alongside a gateway thats my go to loadout always
I'm currently running AK as main with Demat,, Jumpad, Def and Glitch/Gas mines, while having Model, Pike, Zip and Turret as backup, its been a ton of fun and this video only made me feel like I know what I'm doing.
Out of curiosity, what's your opinion on possibly doing similar sets of videos but for different aspects of the game. Like medium loadouts for low and starting out ELO, or even a more fun concept "Appoh's crazy off-meta loadouts that shouldn't work but do" Where you get a 3 stack for WT an try to run a total fever dream team comp idea and see if it works. I.E. something like 2 riot shields and a spear heavy (the yolo sparta comp) or and all light comp that focus on visibility impairment and gateway chaining. Like all go stealth, vanish, gateways an sonar/smokes.I dunno, just a funny idea. But I love this vid an finally showing some respect for reshaper.
@@HasturBeta i have some plans for all these ngl. Its all in the works. The like class guides are coming soon. Off meta is also in the pipeline just wanna get some educational stuff done first. Off meta is hella fun ngl
@@Appoh What would you say is your favorite off meta build for jus pure fun factor? Mine so far has been Grapple/bow/smoke/thermal/Sonar. But I play it as I fire my bow from inside the smoke till they know what I'm doin, then use the smoke as a distract
i really want them to make the defib a specialization, kinda like the turret or healing beam. No matter how you balance it, everyone on your team having defib+healing beam, or defib+demat is gonna be broken. Then they can make the defib pretty strong, its an inherently strong gadget, so therefore it shouldn't be a gadget.
I’ve always thought defib would suit light better. Would make light more viable. One class having both a quick revive and a heal is already overkill, never mind running multiple of the same.
Defib should just make you rez a little quicker when holding E. Anything else is simply too broken. Watching 3 mediums constantly insta rez and heal is so lame. Most boring way to win too.
You'll never hear these light main creators say light is extremely strong and annoying to deal with. It's either heavy or medium being the meta problem
Akm or weapon of choice. Defib, goo grenade, and aps. With jump pad, glitch trap, and gas grenade in reserves depending on teammates, map, and enemy play style
While I think the triple defib stack is frustrating to fight I think its only made worse by the close range potential of both the pike and 1887. I personally feel that the medium should be a more supportive role than what the 1887 and pike allows the role to be, which is all-around menace. I feel the player attacking a medium should be rewarded for getting in close and ultimately incentivised to do so. But with the 1887 and pike this close range fight is incredibly frustrating, with high dps potential on their end and sudden ability to keep reviving.
Hey Appoh. Great vid, interesting solo queue build with a mine(but I think his teammates hate him for no defib loadout). I wanna ask - what fov are u using rn? And at the footages. I saw It was 87, but It still the same? On 87 I feel like my model's shots land better, but the game looks like little bit slow for me. Now Im trying "Balise's old" 95 fov. Interesting, but I want to find my own fov. What should I look for it?
Defibs really need to be switched to a specialization instead of a gadget. Alternatively they could make it so that a team shares the same cooldown for defibs. So if someone on your team uses a defib then all teammates' defibs also go on cooldown to avoid defib chaining
@@undzad been struggling with this idea because medium is just so strong and straight forward but i might find someone for another interview in the future
Hey Appoh do you need a video editor because I'm trying to learn how and gain experience. I will do it for free, but please keep in mind I am learning, so if you want to take me up on this offer, please don't expect professional standard. I just wanna help the channel grow and improve my skills.
I still hate that they took away any scanning abilities from the medium. It was an over reaction from the recon senses days. I feel like the medium should have the proximity sensor or sonar grenade since information is a support thing.
7:44 Now you can't make red barrel with Data reshaper Cycle changed into explosive - smoke - goo - fire - gas - glitch - random, which makes you cannot pull out red barrel like a magic😭😭😭😭
@@Appoh Oh yeah that's right you can make a bunch of barrels in first place so RNG will helps.... But I'm still sad that I can't change gas barrel to smoke or goo barrel 😭😭It was great to use in defence........
I'm not good with demat so I usually run heal and sometimes the turret! usually its heal, model, frag, defib, and zipline tho. then my reserve are pike, fcar, famas , and aps turret (sometimes I add dual blades cuz those annoying riot shield abuser are getting on my nerves)
While Demat can be very useful if used correctly, it requires great game sense and mechanics for it to shine Right now I'm in gold and I swear I run into a Demat medium in my team every single game that just does not know how to use it, basically resulting in them not having any specialization and putting the entire team at a disadvantage because of it
Do you have tips for finding team mates? I'm 39k rn and the people in the official discord lfg are atrocious. In s1/s2 there was a competitive lfg but that seems to have died. I have genuinely had more success solo queueing with no comms than playing with a team with comms.
ive been playing this game forever as a solo never with a team and it really sucks when you get thos teammates that dont even know the finals is. Whenever I try to get a team too it always you suck and im like wtf
I run a decent amount of soloque demat and I 100% see the logic of not running defib. If you have a second medium on heal or two light teammates it can be good, but if you have a heavy teammate its better just to slowrez instead of waiting 10-15 years for their health to regen from half. I personally dont run zip and instead have goo nades. I keep it in reserves for if I have double heavy teammates but generally andgled jumppads are enough. The ability to goo off a doorway and force people to mantle over it blind into a mine is really strong, as is the ability to lift or launch cashout with jumppads
For me it depends on comp, but I solo q. So If we got another medium or two and we all are running jumppad, then yeah. I'll go goo. But if it's just me, then double movement is a must
This isn't a great guide for high Elo, because ranked mode in this game doesn't let you access your reserve loadout. I ALWAYS have glitch traps equipped because there MIGHT be a sword light in the lobby.
Those who are dying while reloading with model
click the melee button when u have enough bullets cancels the animation works with any gun
life saver
Daaaamn, thank you
I greatly appreciate the shoutout! W vid btw!
I have to say, the loadouts are all something I agree with. The Pike and Model are definitely the star of the show right now.
The Pike launched completely OP and is better then every gun in the game, and the nerf hasn't changed that significantly at all. All it effectively did is make headshots less valuable and the range fall off matter a bit more when hitting shots/griefing from afar. And the model, well, the model is a victim. A victim of power creep. The model has received 0 changes and was always a very good weapon, even when it wasn't meta. Not nerfing the ranged damage fall off by the same % that they reduced EVERY SINGLE viable ranged weapon across L/M/H is just a big oversight on Embark's part since the range of the Model was meant to compete with those old ranged values. Some say a spread nerf is needed, and I would prefer it to stay a precision based weapon that can be effective at different ranges. A ranged drop off nerf, reducing the max damage hit from what I believe is 20m to a value of 12-15m would probably be best. As of right now, the weapon is definitely too oppressive and needs adjustments to bring it in with the rest of the pack.
That all being said, I hope both of these weapons don't get the FCAR treatment and just get gutted to the point of not being viable against the more meta arsenal of weapons.
The real question is why do devs hate revolver so much? The lever action is better in every way.
The jump pad at the end was hilarious. Good vid!
What’s crazy is the speed that it came at him. 😅
amazing the hit them self and then bounceat him, how unfortunate
1:54 felt like watching some kind of train in a cartoon driving into a wall and explode for no reason lmao
not first apparently
@@Jinko_ rip
@@Appoh fr
the end clip was everything XD I never expected a jump pad to get a kill so swiftly
MMM defib cycling is definitely something i hope they address
How would they even fix it 😂
I feel like HHM is even more infuriating. Especially with winch + deagle team shooting and bubble stacking. But yeah, MMM is ridiculous too.
@@HawaiianRolls808role based matchmaking, like other class based shooters use. HML on every team.
@@colinmcmasters5819yeah except role que would make the game boring as shit. Plus it’s not like the games that currently have role que are even doing well.
Ranked needs to be role que @@HawaiianRolls808
Hey guys, Andrewstown here. One of my Favorite loadouts to use with Medium is: Charge N Slam, MGL32, RPG, Pyro Mine, and finally, Dome Sheild! Enjoy. ;)
I kinda forgot you played with appoh Ngl
@@Calamitious :(
@@Andrewstown I’m very sorry I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings please forgive me! You are the best heavy player, heavy will get nerfed again single handedly because of you!
One of the most fun medium loadouts I’ve used has gotta be any AR with demat, flashes, data reshaper and defib (obviously)
For light, using glitch and frags is really effective, alongside a gateway thats my go to loadout always
I'm currently running AK as main with Demat,, Jumpad, Def and Glitch/Gas mines, while having Model, Pike, Zip and Turret as backup, its been a ton of fun and this video only made me feel like I know what I'm doing.
Out of curiosity, what's your opinion on possibly doing similar sets of videos but for different aspects of the game. Like medium loadouts for low and starting out ELO, or even a more fun concept "Appoh's crazy off-meta loadouts that shouldn't work but do" Where you get a 3 stack for WT an try to run a total fever dream team comp idea and see if it works. I.E. something like 2 riot shields and a spear heavy (the yolo sparta comp) or and all light comp that focus on visibility impairment and gateway chaining. Like all go stealth, vanish, gateways an sonar/smokes.I dunno, just a funny idea. But I love this vid an finally showing some respect for reshaper.
@@HasturBeta i have some plans for all these ngl. Its all in the works. The like class guides are coming soon. Off meta is also in the pipeline just wanna get some educational stuff done first. Off meta is hella fun ngl
@@Appoh What would you say is your favorite off meta build for jus pure fun factor? Mine so far has been Grapple/bow/smoke/thermal/Sonar. But I play it as I fire my bow from inside the smoke till they know what I'm doin, then use the smoke as a distract
@@HasturBeta dash throwing knives or dash m26
i really want them to make the defib a specialization, kinda like the turret or healing beam. No matter how you balance it, everyone on your team having defib+healing beam, or defib+demat is gonna be broken. Then they can make the defib pretty strong, its an inherently strong gadget, so therefore it shouldn't be a gadget.
@@jacquesbautista-plante5497 could work
I’ve always thought defib would suit light better. Would make light more viable. One class having both a quick revive and a heal is already overkill, never mind running multiple of the same.
Defib should just make you rez a little quicker when holding E. Anything else is simply too broken. Watching 3 mediums constantly insta rez and heal is so lame. Most boring way to win too.
Hey guys, resident medium main and tier 3 brick sugi here.
The top medium build is: grapple, 93r, frags, glitches and gateways.
the second to last cashout play was tough, good stuff
Ok the model movement tech is helpful thank you
1:36 „Baerly untouched in Years“ the Game came out not even a Year ago 😂
You'll never hear these light main creators say light is extremely strong and annoying to deal with. It's either heavy or medium being the meta problem
light is the weakest to be fair, those creators are correct
Don’t worry as long as your playing medium your winning
Seriously, medium is easy mode right now so this is hardly impressive.
I’m glad your feeling better g
Love your vids, good stuff man 👍
I always bring an x-mine in case of a sword light, dance around it and they dance too :^)
3 heavy loadouts when? Would appreciate if one of them had the Lewis. Keep up the good work!
@@xsorph0812 monday
That last clip is amazing, new defense strategy
AKM, Defib, Frag, Jump Pad
The REAL meta since day 1
That last clip is HILARIOUS
Akm or weapon of choice. Defib, goo grenade, and aps. With jump pad, glitch trap, and gas grenade in reserves depending on teammates, map, and enemy play style
4:32 I feel personally attacked (we may be pesky but we have a great personality)
Had a dude tell me the other day that not a single top ranked medium run healing beam anymore was absolutely wild
What the hell u just did in the first 2:13 minutes of the video dude… that was insane ❤
“This is movement medium”
“Appoh this is the 7th week in a row you’ve shown us movement medium”
I use turret when I solo queue bc it helps do some good plays when my team aren’t there
Is the Pike still good after the nerf?
As a casual I say yes. You just can't out damage heavys up close anymore unless you hit all headshots and they miss a few shots.
@@xPookinator yeah its still s tier
It went from 59 damage to 52 damage. It's still quite strong especially if you're accurate.
While I think the triple defib stack is frustrating to fight I think its only made worse by the close range potential of both the pike and 1887. I personally feel that the medium should be a more supportive role than what the 1887 and pike allows the role to be, which is all-around menace. I feel the player attacking a medium should be rewarded for getting in close and ultimately incentivised to do so. But with the 1887 and pike this close range fight is incredibly frustrating, with high dps potential on their end and sudden ability to keep reviving.
Great video
Hey Appoh. Great vid, interesting solo queue build with a mine(but I think his teammates hate him for no defib loadout). I wanna ask - what fov are u using rn? And at the footages. I saw It was 87, but It still the same? On 87 I feel like my model's shots land better, but the game looks like little bit slow for me. Now Im trying "Balise's old" 95 fov. Interesting, but I want to find my own fov. What should I look for it?
@@GeGeza i use 87, no clue just use whatever feels right to you
can we get a remake of this vid for season 5?
My go to demat loadout is Model, Jumppad, Zip or grenade, defib
Turret, gas mine, gas grenade, aps with ak...can't beat it
Sorry to ask but does the dough Wrangler skin help ?
Defibs really need to be switched to a specialization instead of a gadget. Alternatively they could make it so that a team shares the same cooldown for defibs. So if someone on your team uses a defib then all teammates' defibs also go on cooldown to avoid defib chaining
medium guide next w/ a high tier medium 🔥
@@undzad been struggling with this idea because medium is just so strong and straight forward but i might find someone for another interview in the future
Instructions unlear i became a Riot shield main.
Everyone sleeps on the Famas
Hey Appoh do you need a video editor because I'm trying to learn how and gain experience. I will do it for free, but please keep in mind I am learning, so if you want to take me up on this offer, please don't expect professional standard. I just wanna help the channel grow and improve my skills.
could heal, ak, frags, gas mines, defib work to get to gold?
Nr 1: M1887, Defib, Defib, Defib
Nr 2: M1887, Defib, Defib, Defib
Nr 3: M1887, Defib, Defib, Defib
what does "playing drop" mean? like tanking damage?
Another tip - if you don't run the defib as a medium, the game is free to uninstall.
Can you do heavy please
Am having trouble figuring out a loadout for it
@@KINGnickmutebi2011 monday
@@Appoh thanks you so much
Just started playing.The only thing I could complain about is the high ttk 👍
I thought you couldn't get red barrels from data reshaped anymore. When they added glitch barrels, it broke the cycle and now you can't get to red.
@@TheBestcommentor u can reshape random objects to it
never sleep on data reshaper, it saved me from so many mines and turrets
thats why i mentioned it
How dare you not include riot shield! Lol
I still hate that they took away any scanning abilities from the medium. It was an over reaction from the recon senses days. I feel like the medium should have the proximity sensor or sonar grenade since information is a support thing.
only me have problem with Pike aim consistency? Sometimes it feels i'm aiming right but it doesn't hit, even at close range.
7:44 Now you can't make red barrel with Data reshaper
Cycle changed into explosive - smoke - goo - fire - gas - glitch - random, which makes you cannot pull out red barrel like a magic😭😭😭😭
@@SUDDENROCK you can reshape random objects and get them still
@@Appoh Oh yeah that's right you can make a bunch of barrels in first place so RNG will helps.... But I'm still sad that I can't change gas barrel to smoke or goo barrel 😭😭It was great to use in defence........
@@SUDDENROCK yeah they should make it so you can right click to swap between options then use reshape to get something you want
Pike pike pike pike pike pike pike
I GOTTA RELOOOAHD
Hate that they thought the F-Car was too strong but then they drop the bow and pike. The balancing in this game is going to shit.
@@AceL1801 the bow?
How goes Graphic Design?
@@lobefish5006 its good, i like it
I'm not good with demat so I usually run heal and sometimes the turret! usually its heal, model, frag, defib, and zipline tho. then my reserve are pike, fcar, famas , and aps turret (sometimes I add dual blades cuz those annoying riot shield abuser are getting on my nerves)
id love to grind this game if it had fsr 3. i have a good amd gpu but the outdated fsr is horrible performance :( please share this message
Today the model took a nerf to range
still s tier
So lame how embark decided to nerf the pike and the model like a week after u posted this
We gotta work on your healing
Man just dissed the best player in the lobby "guardian turrets "i cant believe
While Demat can be very useful if used correctly, it requires great game sense and mechanics for it to shine
Right now I'm in gold and I swear I run into a Demat medium in my team every single game that just does not know how to use it, basically resulting in them not having any specialization and putting the entire team at a disadvantage because of it
I like my cheese drippy bruh
Do you have tips for finding team mates? I'm 39k rn and the people in the official discord lfg are atrocious. In s1/s2 there was a competitive lfg but that seems to have died. I have genuinely had more success solo queueing with no comms than playing with a team with comms.
Add embark id
@@bobrobrules not kany discords outside of private ones, you just gotta know people
ive been playing this game forever as a solo never with a team and it really sucks when you get thos teammates that dont even know the finals is. Whenever I try to get a team too it always you suck and im like wtf
so model 1887 or pike
the pike isnt really it anymore, any ar of your choice is a good alternative now
@Appoh so should I use model 1887?or akm
@dhuhchanel4558 model 1887 is the best but for ar i prefer famas or fcar, akm was pretty bad before the nerf this season so its just not good
Balls
To say medium was barely touched you may forget recon sense
"the pike can still be used up close with success" *next clip pike up close: dies* (no hate, it was just ironic lol)
Its hard to reach higher ranks in asia server if you're a solo gamer. Asia server is built different. Too many good players, sometimes cheaters.
I’ll play with you I’m a medium Fcar or pike. Dcvenom420
Honestly Mediums being able to see through walls felt less broken than the defib
Model mentioned I’m leaving
Womp womp
First comment! W video, I haven't even watched it all yet but I already know
I personally love the turret, may not be meta but it’s gotten me to Diamond so I can’t complain :)
Get rid of turret and make defibs a specialization.The constant defibs is awful.
So naturally, Embark will nerf heavy again.
I run a decent amount of soloque demat and I 100% see the logic of not running defib. If you have a second medium on heal or two light teammates it can be good, but if you have a heavy teammate its better just to slowrez instead of waiting 10-15 years for their health to regen from half.
I personally dont run zip and instead have goo nades. I keep it in reserves for if I have double heavy teammates but generally andgled jumppads are enough. The ability to goo off a doorway and force people to mantle over it blind into a mine is really strong, as is the ability to lift or launch cashout with jumppads
For me it depends on comp, but I solo q. So If we got another medium or two and we all are running jumppad, then yeah. I'll go goo. But if it's just me, then double movement is a must
why you playing bots in this lobby? they legit see you and just do a 180 and turn around...
I’m like 4th lol
The game play is too good I can't focus on what he saying.
jump pad and zipline is so boring 🤹🏻♂️
BORING
@@AmareloStudios welcome to the meta
@@Appoh zip should be given to light imo, idk why they think medium needs two amazing mobility options
@@AmareloStudios meh i think its fine on med as they are support. Light has good utility already
Light already has the grapple hook for themselves + teleport gadget for the team. it's fine how it is imo @@AmareloStudios
First
This isn't a great guide for high Elo, because ranked mode in this game doesn't let you access your reserve loadout.
I ALWAYS have glitch traps equipped because there MIGHT be a sword light in the lobby.
@@colinmcmasters5819 you can swap your reserves before each round, you just cant swap mid round.
You can access your reserve between rounds which is still very useful, especially when going into the final round.
Gimme a Medium build for Low Elo lol I wanna riot shield troll 🫡
@@komborekt7016 low elo / beginner guides and off meta content is in the pipeline, subscribe so you dont miss it ;)
Yesterday i didnt qualify by 40 dollars😂😂
19,500 to their 19,540