TwisteDxBoi Maybe not mastery, but he knew the weaknesses and strengths of the bow, especially including the dragon pierced and used his slinger/traps to his advantage to maximize the amount of damage he could with it, I wouldn’t say mastery, but he knows damn well what he’s doing
Well if I remember correctly the top of the Anjanath is somewhat weak, and is a good vulnerable spot. While it isn't the best spot to attack as an archer using the arch shot (possibly?) give an advantage; however, that being said I might miss on some technical aspects of his bow play and not acknowledge it right away and if that's the case well props to him because either way he's damn well good with that bow, from his dash charges to his power shots. But of course, that's what I've seen from only this small portion
Great aim , great set-up, great skill, was super fun to watch. Seems almost flawless. Looking forward to your future records of bow game-play when the game is finally out :D ! (Subscribed)
Nabi well, I didn't like it as much as bow in other games at first just because it felt very different. that said, I'm really looking forward to trying it again and to use my lovely LBG some more :D
Im pretty sure this is the fastest Anjanath run that exists out of all weapons. It's too bad the beta was short, not enough experimentation time with the weapons.
This is a bow video I found. Time is 2:39!! They Take a different route at start that can shave a lot of time. ruclips.net/video/2Vzfati4YFQ/видео.html
that's just the dragon piercer. It doesn't do shot damage. It's either fixed damage effected by positioning (Being too far away weakens it) with tail cutting properties, or it's cut damage that seemingly ignores hitzone values
It definitely does not ignore hitzone values in the slightest. Try hunting a Diablos with it and you'll see anything from 10-30 / proc depending on where you hit.
I main Bow since 4U and this was impresive but people claiming "Dragon Pierce" is super good need to be aware this player in the video exceed at setting up the traps and positioning since the time you wast charging it is really high and you can't re-aim while doing it, once you start you can't change it or aim again, and I feel it even slower than Charge Blade's super Amped discharge. By no means I say the Bow is bad, I am loving it, I can't stress enough how good I feel it is since it is my main weapon, but this guy is really good at playing it like he did, my respects.
I main bow in 4U as well. I wholeheartedly agree with you on this... He's really good at the trap positioning and foresighting, and also make use of the flash pod to buy him time for dragon piercer. To be exact, Dragon Piercer requires almost 4 seconds to release. Pretty long charge time in exchange for no crit distance, cutting damage, and no stamina required. Wouldn't spam it unless I'm sure I can hit it without getting hit back for 4 seconds, and that's what the traps n slingers are for.
No you can't, that is why it is "worse" than Amped Charge Blade attack, since this one is a straight line. You need to aim ASAP and THEN execute the Dragon Pierce, even when you see the monster moving away you can't do anything more than wait for the shot to get released helpless
I think you can move your aim for dragon pierce by holding down the left trigger and using an analog stick. I think you only get about 45 degree movement to left/right, but it is good for small adjustments. That being said, this is amazing and makes me realize I don't use enough items. Going to pick bow back up in beta this weekend and try it some more.
I did watch his entire life, actually. Legolas is a fictional character. You can find the non-existent evidence in the books and movies he's been part of.
I don't have to do that. He's never used traps nor flash grenades in any book he's mentioned in. That means it's not a characteristic of Legolas and doesn't apply at all to what happened in this video. If instead the hunter kept mounting the Anjanath and sliding around constantly doing perfect shots while sliding and jumping without ever getting hit (which is actually perfectly possible in Monster Hunter World), you'd have a point comparing that to the character Legolas. As it stands, your implication is at best highly inaccurate.
False. Dragon Piercer in conjunction with traps/flashes is insane (always get the full pierce hits from front to rear). Everything else about the bow is below average damage wise, although it's still one of the best mobility weapons (behind dual swords).
Imo ranged weapon wise the HGB is just as fun. It received so much cool stuff with all the new ammo types and sniper/gatling, it's ridiculous. Plus you can stagger your whole team (if melee) with artillery shots when you feel like trolling. :D
Only if you trap/flash cheese as seen in this video for clear time, which will probably only work on low-rank monsters. Bow damage isn't that high if you can't spam Dragon Piercer on perfectly positioned targets.
You are so fucking boss with the bow. I pity the monsters you will be slaying in the full game when it comes out. What an inspiration to bow users current and future.
Ben Sarm Chuqui There is no meta (most efficient strategy for highest win percentage) in Monster Hunter and no downside to using the weapons you like, as you can be perfectly fine and win every encounter with every weapon available. Unless you're talking specifically about the small speedrun community of course.
You still take more damage with a gunner weapon. There's no Gunner/Blademaster armor, but using a melee weapon increases your defense, and using a ranged increases your elemental defense. It's quite a substantial amount.
Also 90% of the damage in this video came from max hits Dragon Piercer shots on a constantly immobilized target through trap/flash cheesing. The tradeoff of Dragon Piercer is that it immobilizes you for a long period of time. Without a constantly immobilized target, Bow becomes alot weaker DPS wise, because everything else about the bow is below average damage-wise.
Not really GS has Slashes, Slash => Strong Slash => True Slash, each slash having its own charge lvl 1 => 2 => 3. So Dragon Piercer isn't comparable to a Strong Charged Slash lvl 3 or True Charged Slash lvl 3. Landing in the right spot can deal 160 dmg on a Slash Charge lvl 3.
right, but you have to think about dps and viability too. most often than not will not be able to hit all of them. at least with dragon's piercer it is really easy to get it off and aim. If someone can present this fast of a GS time then by all means its just as strong but until then the demo's bow is wreaking more havoc
Mochi Mane Right, I already considered that when I wrote my comment. That's why I used the first slash lvl 3 as an example because it is the weakest charge and quickest to use.
I am not sure if you are referring to the dragon pierce being more powerful than a random lvl 3 GS charge or the bow in general being more powerful than any random GS, please clarify. In the time it takes to shoot 1 dragon pierce you can land a lvl 3 charge. 1 dragon pierce doesn't deal as much damage as lvl 3 GS charge all things considered. If you want to talk about DPS, then bring all the flash bangs, traps (no bombs) you can and see which one kills Anjanth first. Bow is a great weapon but like I said you can't compare the dragon pierce to a lvl 3 charge, and you still never specified which lvl 3 charge.
So it's typically not a good idea to spam one powerful attack, take the longsword's big giant thrust followed by a leap, it depletes a spirit bar, so not best to spam, but this. This is fucking insane lol. I do absolutely love the new bow tho
remember that beta mons HP and such are lowered. I think its good especially when you're against Rath, Diablos, and Anjanath. other mons are kind of easy though, just because they're attack patterns are so slow
Ok i have to ask, even though this guy did some impressive shit and basicly spedrun this monster, just how long an averagr person will take per hunt? And does the game reward you well enough to keep going?
I consider myself a decent but not that hardcore monhun player and I often took about 10-11 minutes for this monster in the beta. That said I didn't fully optimise my timing by making use of all the bombs and traps and stun grenades like he did and just went at it "normally". From past games, hunts usually take around 10~20 minutes, and yes gradually gaining mastery over each new monster and making weapons and armours out of them is immensely satisfying. Most people sink in around 300~700 hours per monster hunter game
So the best way to deal damage with the bow is to spam the shit out of that attack? then the bow's kind of disapointing in design... I like the flashy moves and shit, but now as I know this is the way to get the most dps, if I ever pick up the bow again I'll just spam the shit out if this or feel like loosing dps by trying to use the flashy stuff that for me's cool...
Dark God In this specific instance, yes. Keep in mind though that this is a low rank monster (with reduced HP for the demo) and trap/flash cheesing is far from being a viable/possible strategy everywhere. The only time Dragon Piercer is the best move is when the target is either immobilized or if you can anticipate the monsters next move will be a long one, as Dragon Piercer itself is a really long-winded move (especially with charge) and aiming with it isn't efficient on a moving target. On fast and/or small targets, using Dragon Piercer is very likely a loss of DPS. The same obviously goes for getting hit while using Dragon Piercer (which is likely to happen alot if the target isn't immobilized). What you see in this video is not representative of the vast majority of the full release.
Yeah, anjanath is just good for that. Rath and barroth not so much. I am sad that the bow shot types are gone, bows are more bland in that regard. But dragon piercer isn't always spammable. Especially when we have actual TA run where no items are allowed
Phemeto are bow shot types gone? I haven't looked into it but Imma check it out now that the beta's up, but it'd be fucking lame. For bow users anyway, I sometimes pick one up but I'm not usually that into them, it'd be a pity either way...
It seems that way in the demo. I haven't heard anything official in that regard (there might be some statements from capcom I'm unaware of), but the Bow you get in the demo doesn't feature inherent shot types specific to that bow. It's at least not listed on the bow itself.
If you play with the bow a little you notice the pierce is the dragon shot thingy, the spread is the circle shot, the normal is the R2 and the arc shot can be shot with circle. I think all bows will be the same, a shame though I really enjoyed pierce shots in bows for basarios and stuff like that, it was so gratifying to pierce threw them
That's really really cool I respected that you took him down quickly with a bow now can you convince me that you can fuck up rathalos with the same weapon then ill use a bow more of a switch axe guy just started a new female character with long sword
Insane! Awesome job on the setups and traps. Knew that dragon piercer was super good to spam
Who is that as your profile pic?
you have totally mastered bow , congratulations !!! it was absolutely awesome !!!!
Well... I'd say he created a great strategy for this monster in this map... It is awesome, but mastery?
TwisteDxBoi Maybe not mastery, but he knew the weaknesses and strengths of the bow, especially including the dragon pierced and used his slinger/traps to his advantage to maximize the amount of damage he could with it, I wouldn’t say mastery, but he knows damn well what he’s doing
I'd say mastery
If not mastery, tell me how he could improve?
Well if I remember correctly the top of the Anjanath is somewhat weak, and is a good vulnerable spot. While it isn't the best spot to attack as an archer using the arch shot (possibly?) give an advantage; however, that being said I might miss on some technical aspects of his bow play and not acknowledge it right away and if that's the case well props to him because either way he's damn well good with that bow, from his dash charges to his power shots. But of course, that's what I've seen from only this small portion
Great aim , great set-up, great skill, was super fun to watch. Seems almost flawless. Looking forward to your future records of bow game-play when the game is finally out :D ! (Subscribed)
The definition of amazing bow hunting!
Dadayum O_o
And here i was shrugging off the bow as "meh" in this game
Mr Classica that was your first mistake (jokin). I loved the bow! It’s great👍🏿
honorbound12 did you actually use it in the beta? Hbg is good but that last comment shows me you think it’ll be the same as the last time..
Nabi
well, I didn't like it as much as bow in other games at first just because it felt very different. that said, I'm really looking forward to trying it again and to use my lovely LBG some more :D
Im pretty sure this is the fastest Anjanath run that exists out of all weapons. It's too bad the beta was short, not enough experimentation time with the weapons.
another beta is coming again this week
No >.> sadly someone beat me by 1.5s....ill do better next beta
oh. any link to the video? Bow as well?
Can't wait for The next Beta :)
This is a bow video I found. Time is 2:39!! They Take a different route at start that can shave a lot of time. ruclips.net/video/2Vzfati4YFQ/видео.html
Didn't know shots could cut tails now. Hot.
Yeah the new Dragon Piercer shot can cut tails
that's just the dragon piercer. It doesn't do shot damage. It's either fixed damage effected by positioning (Being too far away weakens it) with tail cutting properties, or it's cut damage that seemingly ignores hitzone values
Same here I was quite surprised.
It definitely does not ignore hitzone values in the slightest. Try hunting a Diablos with it and you'll see anything from 10-30 / proc depending on where you hit.
The dragon Piercer does all 3 types of hits. Cutting, Impact, and the standard arrow piercing
I main Bow since 4U and this was impresive but people claiming "Dragon Pierce" is super good need to be aware this player in the video exceed at setting up the traps and positioning since the time you wast charging it is really high and you can't re-aim while doing it, once you start you can't change it or aim again, and I feel it even slower than Charge Blade's super Amped discharge.
By no means I say the Bow is bad, I am loving it, I can't stress enough how good I feel it is since it is my main weapon, but this guy is really good at playing it like he did, my respects.
I main bow in 4U as well. I wholeheartedly agree with you on this... He's really good at the trap positioning and foresighting, and also make use of the flash pod to buy him time for dragon piercer.
To be exact, Dragon Piercer requires almost 4 seconds to release. Pretty long charge time in exchange for no crit distance, cutting damage, and no stamina required. Wouldn't spam it unless I'm sure I can hit it without getting hit back for 4 seconds, and that's what the traps n slingers are for.
huh I thought you can still aim the dragon piercer, what you cant do is moving
No you can't, that is why it is "worse" than Amped Charge Blade attack, since this one is a straight line. You need to aim ASAP and THEN execute the Dragon Pierce, even when you see the monster moving away you can't do anything more than wait for the shot to get released helpless
Agreed. People really needs to see what he does outside of the completion time. Utilizing everything like this is really hard.
I think you can move your aim for dragon pierce by holding down the left trigger and using an analog stick. I think you only get about 45 degree movement to left/right, but it is good for small adjustments.
That being said, this is amazing and makes me realize I don't use enough items. Going to pick bow back up in beta this weekend and try it some more.
Best Video I have seen so far on RUclips 👍🏼
Jesus Christ it's Jason Bourne!
qnzman578 just wait MHW came on PC and someone MOD that arrow into a Fuckin Pencil...
You know what i mean...? :P
i'd download that mod
Wow that was amazing to watch! You had that fight down and figured out for sure. Nice timing on traps and those power charged shots.
Are you going to do a bow guide for monster hunter world? :-)
yes, and LBG/HBG too. gunner stuff basically
Phemeto Im thinking of making a Long range only Squad. Wanna join? Lol
@RagingThunder There's always one 🙄
Are you Legolas?
Legolas neither used traps nor flash grenades.
and you watched him his entire life? you have no proof he didn't
I did watch his entire life, actually. Legolas is a fictional character. You can find the non-existent evidence in the books and movies he's been part of.
find me where he says "I don't use traps nor flash grenades" i'll wait *looks at watch* I can wait
I don't have to do that. He's never used traps nor flash grenades in any book he's mentioned in. That means it's not a characteristic of Legolas and doesn't apply at all to what happened in this video. If instead the hunter kept mounting the Anjanath and sliding around constantly doing perfect shots while sliding and jumping without ever getting hit (which is actually perfectly possible in Monster Hunter World), you'd have a point comparing that to the character Legolas.
As it stands, your implication is at best highly inaccurate.
Learnt a good deal of lesson. Thank you for that awesome run!
holy f***k!!! the bow is insane
False. Dragon Piercer in conjunction with traps/flashes is insane (always get the full pierce hits from front to rear). Everything else about the bow is below average damage wise, although it's still one of the best mobility weapons (behind dual swords).
Jesus Christ the best bow player I have seen my BODY IS READY FOR U.
This video just solidified me as a bow main, good work!
Imo ranged weapon wise the HGB is just as fun. It received so much cool stuff with all the new ammo types and sniper/gatling, it's ridiculous.
Plus you can stagger your whole team (if melee) with artillery shots when you feel like trolling. :D
This is goddamn beautiful mate. Great job.
I strive to be half as good as you one day. Well done and happy hunting ^-^
Monster hunter... does it mean you're a hunter that hunts monsters... or you're a monster of a hunter?
I don't know anymore D:
No your a monster hunter
HBGxGRM it was a joke and wrong your bud
Long T. How am i wrong dude they are monsters and your a hunter simple as that so a monster hunter this dont make sense😒
HBGxGRM the original comment was a light joke, you took it too literally lmao
HBGxGRM and I said you’re using the wrong "your" it’s you’re but it doesn’t matter that much
Wew, that was fast.
Amazing hunt as expected from mighty Phem.
One of the best videos!
Not a single shot wasted, very impressive!
Wow thats pretty amazing!
Nice work!!
the real use of that new piercing shot... wow wp!
why does the monster sometimes just stand around doin nothing?
you can capture monsters without tranq bombs?
i'm feeling that ranged weapons are so much better than melee
Only if you trap/flash cheese as seen in this video for clear time, which will probably only work on low-rank monsters. Bow damage isn't that high if you can't spam Dragon Piercer on perfectly positioned targets.
Feuerbringer But that simply isn't true. Bow has always been very good. It's a strong weapon just like all the others.
PurpleTrident I didn't state that bow hasn't been good or not strong like all the others.
Good work! That was an awesome hunt!
This is the true HUNTER
This game is going to have a very vibrant community if we're already doing speed-runs in beta.
Jesus, that was absolutely fucking immaculate. Well done!
Damn insane skills there mate
Whats the bow u using and the armor?
You are so fucking boss with the bow. I pity the monsters you will be slaying in the full game when it comes out. What an inspiration to bow users current and future.
I never seen such art at using the bow
Hey guys, any tips on doing the hit and dash thingy ? the one where you slide and attack?
I tried it but after sliding, I didn't attack. Any idea?
dash with X and hold R2 then you can release R2
I want to know how much hp these monsters have bc damage numbers are useless with out that lol
Fucking yes!!!! Cant wait for this game.
Awesome run!
2:10 how it not chop his head off?
Nice work!
Suprised you can finally cut tails with a bow now. (without going in melee)
I'm really impressed
That was really good bow usage.
This is amazing.
It can be powerful even if monster isnt stationary with Focus armor skill and some Dash Juice. Both are confirmed to be coming back in MH World.
Armor and bow pls can someone tell me.
Incredible.
Do you stream on twitch? I'm going to play bow and would love to watch more skilled bow gameplay
i havent due to most recent MH games being on the 3DS, but i probably will with world
Wow, you're crazy good with a bow. Felt like i was watching green arrow in action.
Well, this concludes it...bow wyvern shot gonna be new meta
Ben Sarm Chuqui There is no meta (most efficient strategy for highest win percentage) in Monster Hunter and no downside to using the weapons you like, as you can be perfectly fine and win every encounter with every weapon available.
Unless you're talking specifically about the small speedrun community of course.
Care to share your bow and armor skills sir?
Holy shit, the nostalgia
How did you cut the tail off?
Whats the name of your bow
now thats a pro hunter
WoW, Respect!
Very smooth!
That was some good arrowing!
How you can be hited in a bow load
Just insane
Guys apparently Gunner armor is gone or that's what i heard so this power has no trade off
You still take more damage with a gunner weapon. There's no Gunner/Blademaster armor, but using a melee weapon increases your defense, and using a ranged increases your elemental defense. It's quite a substantial amount.
Also 90% of the damage in this video came from max hits Dragon Piercer shots on a constantly immobilized target through trap/flash cheesing. The tradeoff of Dragon Piercer is that it immobilizes you for a long period of time. Without a constantly immobilized target, Bow becomes alot weaker DPS wise, because everything else about the bow is below average damage-wise.
that dragon piercer is so gooooooood D: basically a lv 3 slams from the gs
Not really GS has Slashes, Slash => Strong Slash => True Slash, each slash having its own charge lvl 1 => 2 => 3. So Dragon Piercer isn't comparable to a Strong Charged Slash lvl 3 or True Charged Slash lvl 3. Landing in the right spot can deal 160 dmg on a Slash Charge lvl 3.
right, but you have to think about dps and viability too. most often than not will not be able to hit all of them. at least with dragon's piercer it is really easy to get it off and aim. If someone can present this fast of a GS time then by all means its just as strong but until then the demo's bow is wreaking more havoc
Mochi Mane
Right, I already considered that when I wrote my comment. That's why I used the first slash lvl 3 as an example because it is the weakest charge and quickest to use.
right. but until GS has been shown to out cheese dragon's piercer in the demo then its not as powerful
I am not sure if you are referring to the dragon pierce being more powerful than a random lvl 3 GS charge or the bow in general being more powerful than any random GS, please clarify. In the time it takes to shoot 1 dragon pierce you can land a lvl 3 charge. 1 dragon pierce doesn't deal as much damage as lvl 3 GS charge all things considered. If you want to talk about DPS, then bring all the flash bangs, traps (no bombs) you can and see which one kills Anjanth first. Bow is a great weapon but like I said you can't compare the dragon pierce to a lvl 3 charge, and you still never specified which lvl 3 charge.
The Anjanath is the only one who disliked this vid
What bow were u using ?
This was poetry
Aye looks like we got a veteran here good job
So it's typically not a good idea to spam one powerful attack, take the longsword's big giant thrust followed by a leap, it depletes a spirit bar, so not best to spam, but this. This is fucking insane lol. I do absolutely love the new bow tho
Great job!
So doing the initial charge before the dragon piercer makes it more powerful?
Dragon Pierce gains extra charge just like any arrow. you can shoot after a charge for a +1 or after a slide for a +2
Phemeto does Dragon Pierce gets stronger for example you slide 2 times?
Good job, lol its the opposite for me, he stun locks me with roars and attacks
I have heavily, HEAVILY misjudged the Bow.
Wow awesome stuff!
What bow is that
Dood that's some intense bow demonstration. Holy fak
that long charge attack, how did you do it ?
Triangle and Circle. its Dragon Pierce
I've found what I'm gonna main
Didn't get a chance to play the beta is the difficulty good or too easy?
remember that beta mons HP and such are lowered. I think its good especially when you're against Rath, Diablos, and Anjanath. other mons are kind of easy though, just because they're attack patterns are so slow
thanks appreciate the input
ColtJ yeah it was easy you have 150 health and stamina and decent gear to start and the monster difficulty is decreased
Which bow is that?
damn you are amazing with bow. Happy to see good hunters on ps4 already
Ok i have to ask, even though this guy did some impressive shit and basicly spedrun this monster, just how long an averagr person will take per hunt? And does the game reward you well enough to keep going?
I consider myself a decent but not that hardcore monhun player and I often took about 10-11 minutes for this monster in the beta. That said I didn't fully optimise my timing by making use of all the bombs and traps and stun grenades like he did and just went at it "normally". From past games, hunts usually take around 10~20 minutes, and yes gradually gaining mastery over each new monster and making weapons and armours out of them is immensely satisfying. Most people sink in around 300~700 hours per monster hunter game
The sweats! Lmao good hunt my dude
Bow Kai in vindictus!
Dude you a beast
So the best way to deal damage with the bow is to spam the shit out of that attack? then the bow's kind of disapointing in design... I like the flashy moves and shit, but now as I know this is the way to get the most dps, if I ever pick up the bow again I'll just spam the shit out if this or feel like loosing dps by trying to use the flashy stuff that for me's cool...
Dark God In this specific instance, yes. Keep in mind though that this is a low rank monster (with reduced HP for the demo) and trap/flash cheesing is far from being a viable/possible strategy everywhere.
The only time Dragon Piercer is the best move is when the target is either immobilized or if you can anticipate the monsters next move will be a long one, as Dragon Piercer itself is a really long-winded move (especially with charge) and aiming with it isn't efficient on a moving target.
On fast and/or small targets, using Dragon Piercer is very likely a loss of DPS. The same obviously goes for getting hit while using Dragon Piercer (which is likely to happen alot if the target isn't immobilized).
What you see in this video is not representative of the vast majority of the full release.
Yeah, anjanath is just good for that. Rath and barroth not so much.
I am sad that the bow shot types are gone, bows are more bland in that regard. But dragon piercer isn't always spammable. Especially when we have actual TA run where no items are allowed
Phemeto are bow shot types gone? I haven't looked into it but Imma check it out now that the beta's up, but it'd be fucking lame. For bow users anyway, I sometimes pick one up but I'm not usually that into them, it'd be a pity either way...
It seems that way in the demo. I haven't heard anything official in that regard (there might be some statements from capcom I'm unaware of), but the Bow you get in the demo doesn't feature inherent shot types specific to that bow. It's at least not listed on the bow itself.
If you play with the bow a little you notice the pierce is the dragon shot thingy, the spread is the circle shot, the normal is the R2 and the arc shot can be shot with circle. I think all bows will be the same, a shame though I really enjoyed pierce shots in bows for basarios and stuff like that, it was so gratifying to pierce threw them
crazy time man
nice skills mate, i bet it's really hard to do that with a controller. +1 sub
Wow just wow...
Wow
I'll never trash talk the bow again 0.0
Amazing! :D
Impressive!
Holy fuck that was flawless
This is cool!
You’re a god
It's animal abuse
Woah! Nice its amazing 🖒
"tutututututu" feel so good xD
That's really really cool I respected that you took him down quickly with a bow now can you convince me that you can fuck up rathalos with the same weapon then ill use a bow more of a switch axe guy just started a new female character with long sword
i like rath. ill do some rath runs sure
Phemeto thank you kick his ass he's almost dead when I fight him then he kills me and runs away maybe switch axe is too slow
If only MH Generation's controls were as forgiving
God Damn