Dorsal Scapular Nerve Entrapment Syndrome
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- Опубликовано: 14 сен 2020
- Entrapment of the dorsal scapular nerve (DSN) is an under-recognized cause of neck, upper back, and scapular pain. Symptoms are often similar to other conditions and can be mistaken for rib pain, cervical disc herniation, or shoulder pathology.
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Holy crap. I'm dealing with this right now. I've had x-rays and MRI's and been told I have scapular impingement, but no one has ever suggested this. My pain aligns 100% with your explanation and I'm taking this to my doc. You rock dude.
But what's the solution? surgery?
hey bro tells us what happen ?
Feels like this been dealing with it for 3 months it’s a nightmare and it just boost my anxiety
Wow!!!!! You are the first person who identified my problem!
Thank you so much for information
Slip in shower tried to grab curtain (arm outstretched came down on edge of small tub) resulted in 4 broken ribs healed 4 months later next, frozen shoulder 18 months, next, opposite frozen shoulder 15th months. Shoulder (trapeze & shoulder blade area pain) 10 years later and many many drugs & specialists ( final orthopaedic surgeon ) referred to a physiatrist diagnosed with central sensitisation syndrome (CSS). Disgraceful diagnosis ends up after YEARS of trying to get to the bottom of the burning pain etc this looks like what has been going on, thank you
thank yo for clearly explaining this issue! Was just diagnosed today with this after two years of seeing back specilists, PT, chiros etc. No one could figure it out until today!!
how do you treat it?
good diagnostic skills, thanks
Been dealing with this for years! Glad to know what it’s called. Gonna look into your exercise videos for it and will tell my chiro about it. Thanks!
Me too. Has anything helped your situation yet?
@@nakul696, I actually did 2 of the exercises that he gives in the second video and it’s helped! Just gonna continue doing the exercises/stretches.
Me too had this for 12 years and could never describe even what it is. Feels like you wanna rip your shoulder blade off to get to it. Mine is right side. I struggle with over head lifting and even things like using a Xerox with my arms out in front cab bring on the pain
I have had rhomboid spasms for the past year because of this. Ever since I stopped going to the gym it began. It completely goes away when I gym.
Thank you so much for such a clear explanation. I've been dealing with this since I was younger, but I barely gave it a notice until recently when I carried something on the affected side and it started to tingle on my shoulder and arms. I was afraid I'd drop what I was holding. Figured out it was caused by my bad sleeping position, where I lie down on my stomach and wake up with a neck pain that lasts for 2-3 days.
Again, thank you for giving us some clarity. I hope to watch more videos relating to it from your channel.
How is your back pain now
WOW -This is a (probably) an amazing insight into my problem. I have had a shoulder issue, with pain around the scapular and an originally weak serratus anterior muscle for over 3 years now. The correlation of the way the pain manifests and the link to the neck is a perfect diagnosis. I had been to 7 physios, chiros etc trying to find the problem, and some MSK specialists through healthcare. I have also had X-Rays. No one has offered me a logical diagnosis and the 3 years of stretching and improving the strength around the rear of the shoulder to pul the scapular back has helped only slightly. I used to powerlift before the onset of this problem.
So here is a QUESTION, when I fond out about this possible diagnosis I went to a new specialist (I had stopped paying money for no progress) I was told it's unlikely to be this as nerve problems are always worse at night, and my problem is not. Is this true? The professional then focused on the spine, and a lack of mobility in the thoracic region
Yes and they did surgery on my neck!!! They didn't fix this nerve its on left side im gonna lose my mind!!! Its annoying and hurts so bad. 2 years now
well, gotta say thanks! now I have a better understanding of what might be the problem ([olympic] weightlifting and desk job for me probably lol). plus, at least something to go to a local doc with
Is there a second part to this video?
Good so how do we fix it
what app did u use. it is so neat to see the muscles removed layer by layer!
I have a crack in the shoulder pad with the clavicle and triceps muscle and a muscle spasm, what should I do
THERE IS A SECOND PART GUYS:
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What anatomy program is that?
Is numbness typical on the surface on the skin as well?
Was you able to see or find this by using Ultrasound? Thank you
Does the nerve lie under the rhombids?
What's the treatment, Sir?
I do flooring and mine has been feeling like a rock sticking into it…bicycle wreck has made it worse.
Can this nerve cause "throat" pain/burn as well? I have been dealing with snapping scapula since 2016! Well at least dealing with the symptoms. My chiro office has great folks but they haven't been able to help. I get massages, PT , had some accu and now injections. I want to be cured already. It's a horrible feeling. Anyway, I feel like I have "gerd" but just on the side of my scap issue. And they come together. Any thoughts, insight are GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!
What's the best method of identifying this nerve entrapment? Ultrasound or MRI?
When sleeping on either side or my back, my left shoulder blade develops a numbing pain right at the infraspinatus. I cannot lift a blanket using left arm until I get up and massage that area. Could I have dorsal scapular nerve entrapment? Thanks
Can this cause pins and neddles down the arm?
What do you think about DSN type pain and symptoms accompanied with pain radiating through the ulnar region in the arm... Could this be solely due to DSN?
You literally nailed what I'm feeling on the head but it's only when I'm laying on it would that make sense?
This conditon can cause headache?
Had this over the last few weeks, the pain is unbearable; stabbing sharp pains in my lower part of my scapula. Even causes pain around one particular rib which extended almost to my front. I cannot sleep on that side but no problem sleeping on the other. Any advice?
Can this come from heavy lowbar back squatting? If that's the case, is there a way to prevent it?
Can this cause more of a aching pain, my pain isn’t really sharp
Doc. Quick question if I may. My mother in law had has bad pain on left side at bra line level like you're describing for 2 years. It's starts after she gets out of bed for the day. While laying down there is no real pain. After she's on her feet for 5 minutes the pain starts. She's had 10 plus shots and nothing has worked. Can it effect her left arm/hand. Her left arm is weaker and hand as well. She's 79 years old and walks with shoulders hunched over. I think this is making matters worse. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
I think I have this but there is no pain just chronic dull ache
im having this intense pain in my neck and back pain.. the pain triggers by a sudden movement and whenever I lay down at bed its even hard for me to switch positions when Im laying down since its too painful.. its been 3 days now
Might be Costochondritis...were in a same boat but thanks god been 3 weeks never suffer this...try the deep massage as well it might be frozen muscle or nerve...specially this winter time
Hi! This kinda sounds like what I'm going through.. I'm an LMT, and one day It just started to hurt in my rhomboid area.. it's been a month now and I feel tingling down my arm and into my thumb and pointer finger.. but only when I stand or sit. It subsides when I'm laying down. Could this be the cause??
Cause this cause cold feelings in the back and in between shoulder blades randomly and sporadically for different but not constant length of times. If that makes sense. Thanks for any insight.
Wondwr if this id reason for my TOS and compression of subclavian vein. They want to do surgery but im worried it will make me worse and its other issues related to my bad posture and severe stress over the years causing it to be stuck and tight causing slouching and forward hesd. Got so much worse after going back to desk job
Does this nerve hurt when swallowing cold? I am dealing with pain in left side when swallowing.
This is exactly what I have after my whiplash accident. I don't know what to do. I'm so frustrated; it's been almost a year.
Did you find a way to fix your issue ?
I've had a for a yes ror so these pains through my neck to shoulder and when I massage under the shoulder blade it kills. I do reach and wash window cleaning so arms up most of the door and looking up. I massage with a throbbing massage tool but it hurts alot. What shud I do??!!! Dean. England.
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I. Have shoulder line muscle knot which causes extreme ain
I am experiencing pain that makes me think is dorsal scapular nerve pain. Doctors I have seen are telling me that it isn't nerve pain because I'm not experiencing numbness/tingling in my fingers. Is that accurate? Would I only experience this pain in conjunction with numbness/tingling in my fingers?
I have the same symtoms that I’ve been experiencing for more than 2 months now. And the pain and tighhtess to ny neck is connected to my chest that sometimes tightness on my chest cause difficulty of breathing. This becomes even worst when lifting something heavy. Do you have any recommendation to alleviate this suffering. Thanks in advance.
Did you find any relief?
@1:15 _ whats the name of that 3D model system and where can a person obtain such?.🤔
I think that may be BioDigital Human.
Could I ask what app/program you are using there? That would be so helpful.
Essential Anatomy
Hi, I am having this nerve entrapment from last 9 months and it had happened during bench press. I always feel a dull pain while doing deep breathing. Can you please suggest some stretches and exercises ?
SAME as you!!! my shoulder creaked doing bench presses 9 months before and since then I have not been able to train pushing again and I have no money for physical therapists ... I am only 21 years old ..
@@guimil7898 even if you go wont help... i am going right now and it's getting worts just rest for 4,5 month and then start training againg
I need the next video I am a dog musher. I race dogs so my arms are always being pulled forward
How likely is it for this nerve to cause headaches or just general muscle tension that would manifest as headaches? I feel like this might be an issue I am having as I definitely feel the pain when putting my head in the mentioned positions and have had these issues for over a year now and can't seem to resolve them. What kind of therapy is recommended for this?
Hey man, going through the exact same thing. Have you found anything helpful?
Headaches may be from cervical nerve problems. You can see a chiropractor and get full spinal xrays
@@cloudypac probably late to the game here, but I get headaches from this issue, I have been able to resolve them for the most part by keeping the arm on the headache side DOWN by my side. dont elevate the shoulder at all, even when you sleep, keep your arm straight down, like you were a soldier, and sleep on your back...since its been a while have you found another solution?
@@Antonio-wj7fb Thanks for your input. It's very interesting to know how you managed it. For me yes it did resolve completely, but took a while to fix the whole body posture from pelvic tilt, to lengthening chest/pec beside strengthening shoulder blade and neck.
Hey! What is this anatomy program that you use? Thanks.
Essential Anatomy
I have Erbs palsy due to birth complications and have recently gotten into weight lifting. I have begun feeling this pain in this area. I am glad I have an idea of what it could be!
I regret weight lifting... it caused my injuries, not worth ir
I had this pain for 8 years thinking is chostocondritis, thoracic outlet syndrome or trigeminal nerve
Are you pain free now?
@@benjaminderam346 nope
Does your pain ever occur in the middle scalene of the neck?
I actuali feel pain streching that nerve
Do you ever see this with the pain being much closer to the spine?
It’s my case... I have this pain for 6 years and I was searching the treatment thinking the pain had it centered on my spine, and now I can see the problem is that nerve. Did you have any luck finding a solution for this problem?
@@rafaelmacedo5133 No luck yet. I've tried everything under the sun, from a TENS unit, to topicals, to PT, to prescriptions. It just won't quit. Any solutions that have worked for you?
@@hotmessmomtv4117 I went to the chiropractor and he hit the nerve on my neck and knew it was this right away, I feel my pain and have a lump right next to my shoulder blade which always has been affecting my spine! Not sure if you have a lump near it as well?
@@rafaelmacedo5133 you said it also affected your spine? Cause my upper back and then later in the day, my spine starts to hurt.
@HotMessMom TV @Nicholas DiPalma how u guys got this pain?
I was doing a bench press and felt a snap right into my spine wich came with a great pain. 2 days later the pain was gone, but I’ve started to fell it once again 1 month later and it hurts even now, six years later.
I’ve went to many professionals and did many treatments but i’ve got no success with any of them.
I did some exams on my spine and the doctors have said that I don’t have any problem on it... and the pain I feel is very strange because it looks like it’s placed on the side of my right shoulder blade but also placed on my thoracic spine (the pain is even greater there).
The pain looks like it is a knife and I don’t have any position that I can get ride of it even for a minute.
I am starting to think that it really have something to do with this nerve thing, but I don’t even know what kind of professional I should search for.
Got it from backpack
This is my problem...its very very painful...having this pain for quiet long time sometimes thinking am i having a heart attack?coz the pain radiates to my chest😢
I have been dealing with this pain for the past 6 years and everytime it radiates my chest and feel like I am getting a heart attack.
Did you find any solution?
@@samwd5039 yes its costochondritis two doctors diagnosed me this..They do a lot of blood test Clotting screening,FBC,Tropolin or troponin etc,ECG all is normal...But what do is i ask someone to massage me a deep massage and thanks god not suffering this pain for 3 weeks now...i think its frozen muscle as well...
@@chetzmartinezrodriguez2253 in my case they did ecg, tropolin, ETT, echopgraphy, all was normal. Then referred to gastro then he did endoscopy again Normal. Then went to neuro he did cervical MRI but normal. after 6 year you are the first person you told me this disease name.
Its sharp radiating pain on the left side which goes from sternum to left upper chest limb.
@@samwd5039 google or you tube COSTOCHONDRITIS..I suffered a lot with this pain i promise you,almost every week i go to ED thinking im going to die ir having heart attack...I commented one of the video in you tube and and explain my pain and he straight away told me its costochondritis but doctors here in London didn’t diagnosed me yet that time then after 2 weeks i go back again to ED then came out its Costochondristis
@@samwd5039 i have the same loads and loads of blood test,ECG,troponin,clotting screening,FBC,etc but doctors cant find any serious
Too much theory, what is the therapy?
That what I have
I have this !! And I have it down my arm
Did you find a way to fix this issue ?