There were three ICW wrestlers involved ... Thats why Savage was bold enough to sucker punch Bill Dundee .... you did not have to work hard to get Dundee to fight you ....
The difference is football players still get paid even if they’re hurt and not playing. Back in the day if a wrestler couldn’t work he wasn’t getting paid so they’d work hurt.
@@herbs275 Soccer? Sure they pretend to get hurt to try and win an advantage but they get straight back up, when soccer players genuinely get hurt it's normally torn muscles/ligaments, concussions (from clashing heads), broken bones ect... Playing on contract from age 16-38, they have to heal injuries properly for the sake of their careers, same goes for all competitive athletes, look at an average wrestler's life span, they die very young because of the punishment they put their bodies through. Working through injuries isn't though, it's plain stupid.
Bill Dundee said this when interviewed by GNW Hannibal " I left the gym and saw Savage and I asked him how are you doing? Savage replied you don't give a fuck. Dundee replied you're right I dont. On a different day I left the gym and saw Pistol Pez Whatley and another wrestler and got talking to them when outta nowhere Savage sucker punches me Savage had his car parked on top of a hill and it was packed with guys so me and Savage are rolling around like a couple of women and it being a 3 on 1 situation I get to my car hoping it's not locked so I can pop the trunk to get my briefcase that has my gun hoping that the case isn't locked when Randys dad Angelo comes out of nowhere so I get to the trunk and thankfully the case isn't locked and I get the gun and put it to Angelo Poffos head and tell them that until they go away my gun stays. When I get home there is a warrant for my arrest so I go to court and Angelo comes up to me and says we need to go Broadway with this and I said no way because I will win so I go to a payphone and call Jerry Jarrett and ask him what he wants because it will affect his territory and he says it's up to you and I say no it's up to you it's your territory and long story short me and Savage are up before a judge and we both say we want to drop the charges against each other so the case gets thrown out" That is Bill Dundees version of what happened it's not Verbatim of what he said and I don't know if it's true or not but I will link it when I find it so you can watch for yourselves. Bill Dundee on Macho Man Gun Incident The Hannibal TV GNW ruclips.net/video/W7bQyVCpRHw/видео.html
Lee Fear the only guy on the ICW side who might even show up to face Billy Robinson would have been Bob Roop. As accomplished a shooter as Roop was he would have his ass handed to him by Robinson under any circumstances
J.R. Benson I agree, Roop had been a college football player, collegiate wrestler, amateur Greco-Roman wrestler and an Army Special Forces medic. He would have stepped up to Billy Robinson ... and would have gotten destroyed. Billy Robinson was the real deal, as tough and skilled as anyone.
The fact that anyone was/is capable of enjoying a Hogan match over a Savage match, seriously makes me question how intelligent we supposedly are as a species. At their match at WM where the mega powers collided, Savage jumped damn near 3/4 across the ring AND had sustained hang time. Hogan being invincible, kicked out, hulked up, hit the big boot & leg drop, and Saved got the 3 second tan. Life is beyond unfair. #ripmachomanrandysavage BTW I do believe he took a page out of the legendary James Brown's book and "hit it & quit it" as far as Stephanie is concerned.
I still can't understand why Jim doesn't see that Trump is just a 90's Democrat. He always has been a business Dem. You'd think someone as intelligent as Jim would be able to see through the media's bullshit, but whatever. I'm so tired of having politics injected into every facet of my life
Get used to having MAGA politics injected into every aspect of your life. No more rights, no more polio vaccines, no more Tik Tok, no more voting, no more trade with the rest of the world, no more protecting women from bleeding to death in hospital parking lots, no more religious freedom, etc. @@matthiasthulman4058
8:55 Cornette: "Yes, of course Dundee could have pressed charges." Cornie's bias is sometimes dizzying. I don't think he even pays attention to himself when he gets into these promotion war rants. Dundee, to cops: "I pulled a gun on this guy in a parking lot. He wrestled the gun away and punched me in the face. I want him arrested!!!"
What part of "He was outnumbered in the parking lot" did you miss? Three or four guys against one guy with a gun the guy with the gun could very easily claim self defense. Especially in the southern part of the USA.
Dear sirs may I be your intern or work for ya. I am from London ky I liked wrestling sine 1980 at age 4 Stayed in wrestling till gimmick wwe mandsaur I was getting laid driving fast getting wild hi drunk Came back nitro start. Superstion shows were awesome.
@The Shape Mask Right now we're talking about Bill Dundee. He has a better chance to make it to the WWE HOF. Randy Savage and Ms. Elizabeth should've been in the 1st 3 induction ceremonies!!
@MemphoWrasslin1 said flair 1 hogan 2 savage 3...Ive been following wrestling since the late 70s nobody cared about memphis guys except people living in that area..Lawler and his cronies were a joke to the NWA,WCW,WWF,WWE..Sorry its the truth..
@MemphoWrasslin1 selling out a couple hundred seats in a high school is alot different that selling 93,000 tickets in detriot..Midget dundee wouldnt even be seen in that arena..Listen I dont like Hogan never did..But you have to give him his due for carrying the business and exploding it all those years..My personal favorites were Sting and HBK..But neither even close to the impact and accomplishments that Flair,Hogan and a distant 3rd Macho Man did..
That is not the true story. I was a member of American Fitness Center there in Goodlettsville Tn. I have know realized that Mr Cornette is just full of BS in these post. I was there when this happened and this the facts. Steamboat Patterson distracted Dundee then Randy Poffo ran from behind a car a sucker punched Dundee with a pair of brass knucks. It broke the bone above Dundee's eye and not his jaw as cornette says. And they did go to Nashville court and the judge dismissed the case due to it being a he said he said situation. Get the facts straight before you tell a story please
Steamboat? Patterson? This was what 83? Steamboat was working in the Carolinas and Patterson NYC. Guarantee you they weren't anywhere close to Nashville at that time
He did say it was "as he heard it". Meaning he probably heard it from a reliable source and he is just repeating what he was told. I've found Cornette to be one of the only reliable sources for these kinds of stories.
"went two out of three with the police dog."
That was hilarious!
Nordath1 I love Jim Cornette
Jim is a nut! 😂
Cornette, Macho and Honky Tonk .... Good times
Yes
I've spent my whole quarentine listening to Jim lol he's very interesting and funny
I've been going back yrs just to listen.. In my Vince voice such good shit
U & me both!! 😂
TJ Rector Vince stories are the best
@@Steve-mx6lz oh ik
Same😂
Jamie dundee claimed that papa dundee took a punch and pulled a gun. then again who would believe Jamie dundee.
There were three ICW wrestlers involved ... Thats why Savage was bold enough to sucker punch Bill Dundee .... you did not have to work hard to get Dundee to fight you ....
I believe Jamie's version
Broken jaw and wire through the ear, I'll need 2 weeks to recover. Pro Wrestler
I sprained my finger I'll be out 6 weeks: NFL Player
apply your comment to soccer.
nfl plays with hernias, torn biceps, and the famous cut the tip of my finger off and back on field.
The difference is football players still get paid even if they’re hurt and not playing. Back in the day if a wrestler couldn’t work he wasn’t getting paid so they’d work hurt.
Sorry that you have to wrestle and not make as much money in the soap opera and play
@@herbs275 Soccer? Sure they pretend to get hurt to try and win an advantage but they get straight back up, when soccer players genuinely get hurt it's normally torn muscles/ligaments, concussions (from clashing heads), broken bones ect... Playing on contract from age 16-38, they have to heal injuries properly for the sake of their careers, same goes for all competitive athletes, look at an average wrestler's life span, they die very young because of the punishment they put their bodies through. Working through injuries isn't though, it's plain stupid.
NHL players are the most ballsy out of all athletes. Dudes take 90 stitches to the face and only miss a shift or 2.
"Bill never got the payback" because there was no way for him to beat up Randy Savage lol
Pugiron You know Bill Dundee knew what time it was in regards to the Macho Man.
What makes you think Randy Savage was a tough guy ? Every punch he is said to have land was a cheap shot .
Marcus McDonald don’t kid yourself about how good Jerry Lawler and Superstar Bill Dundee were back in the day. Both could really work a live audience.
@@MortonT1958 Lawler had two moves. His right hand, and defending a pedophilia charge
@@guyincognito5706 you mean people that arent covering up for him?
Good thing Cornette saw it.
The Legend of Randy Savage!!!
Cool opinion
80s were a hell of a decade
And cocaine was a hell of a drug…
Did Billy Robinson ever wrestle in the WWWF/ WWE
Bill Dundee said this when interviewed by GNW Hannibal " I left the gym and saw Savage and I asked him how are you doing? Savage replied you don't give a fuck. Dundee replied you're right I dont. On a different day I left the gym and saw Pistol Pez Whatley and another wrestler and got talking to them when outta nowhere Savage sucker punches me Savage had his car parked on top of a hill and it was packed with guys so me and Savage are rolling around like a couple of women and it being a 3 on 1 situation I get to my car hoping it's not locked so I can pop the trunk to get my briefcase that has my gun hoping that the case isn't locked when Randys dad Angelo comes out of nowhere so I get to the trunk and thankfully the case isn't locked and I get the gun and put it to Angelo Poffos head and tell them that until they go away my gun stays. When I get home there is a warrant for my arrest so I go to court and Angelo comes up to me and says we need to go Broadway with this and I said no way because I will win so I go to a payphone and call Jerry Jarrett and ask him what he wants because it will affect his territory and he says it's up to you and I say no it's up to you it's your territory and long story short me and Savage are up before a judge and we both say we want to drop the charges against each other so the case gets thrown out" That is Bill Dundees version of what happened it's not Verbatim of what he said and I don't know if it's true or not but I will link it when I find it so you can watch for yourselves.
Bill Dundee on Macho Man Gun Incident The Hannibal TV GNW
ruclips.net/video/W7bQyVCpRHw/видео.html
Bill Dundee is full of shit. He's just embarrassed Macho slapped him around like a bitch.
Dundee told this story.. it's on RUclips
This is funny as hell. The Maniac vs The Midget
5:42
Only 'a week or two off'?
Damn, Dundee's a badass.
No one challenged billy robinson no surprise there one of the toughest men ever
Lee Fear the only guy on the ICW side who might even show up to face Billy Robinson would have been Bob Roop. As accomplished a shooter as Roop was he would have his ass handed to him by Robinson under any circumstances
J.R. Benson I agree, Roop had been a college football player, collegiate wrestler, amateur Greco-Roman wrestler and an Army Special Forces medic. He would have stepped up to Billy Robinson ... and would have gotten destroyed. Billy Robinson was the real deal, as tough and skilled as anyone.
@@MortonT1958 he was an Olympic wrestler
It was Savage and dem, lol.
I thought only black folks talked like that lmao
I grew up watching ICW. It was awesome for the time and what is was.
is this when Pez W. got the name Pistol??
Nobody fucked with Billy Robinson. True English Hardman.
“$10,000 and a ham sandwich” ... LMAO
Jesus, it's like something from 'The Outsiders', lol
There will never be anything like outlaw wrestling promotions.
Randy must have been riding that "supplement" lightning bolt...
You guys understand that this argument is exactly what Corny was tryn to get started right?
Assuming this story is true if I were Dundee I would have gotten a receipt one way or another .
Love These Campfire
True Stories of Pro American WorldWide Wrestling
He said Savage hit him before the gun then Savage called the cops on him for pulling the gun
What a coward
When men could be men
Spot on 👌
As far as I remember Dundee himself said they went to court... 😂
yeah he did.Said Savage team called the police 1st.
When pro wrestling in the South went to Def-Con 5 😂😂
Dundee’s version: ruclips.net/video/W7bQyVCpRHw/видео.html
Savage and them
I believe the superstar side of the story.
Over a pair of underwear
I'm from Lexington and I always heard Stories about Savage stealing Steaks from the Krogers on New Circle Road.
The fact that anyone was/is capable of enjoying a Hogan match over a Savage match, seriously makes me question how intelligent we supposedly are as a species. At their match at WM where the mega powers collided, Savage jumped damn near 3/4 across the ring AND had sustained hang time. Hogan being invincible, kicked out, hulked up, hit the big boot & leg drop, and Saved got the 3 second tan. Life is beyond unfair. #ripmachomanrandysavage BTW I do believe he took a page out of the legendary James Brown's book and "hit it & quit it" as far as Stephanie is concerned.
Hogan was a scumbag and never put Randy over... Macho was buy far the Better Wrestler and BETTER MAN!!
WOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
It wasn't Candi Divine, it was Debbie Combs.
Oooooohhhhh yeah dig it!
I can’t hear Candy Divine’s name without thinking of that Prince of Wrestling promo from Women’s Championship Wrestling.
10:12
Imagine if Cornette has called the cops when the was jumped by Paul E. and the Original Midnight Express.
Explanation of the fight starts at 2:58 your welcome.
This is the Cornette I like. Talking about old school wrestling...not his Orange Man Bad bullshit.
I still can't understand why Jim doesn't see that Trump is just a 90's Democrat. He always has been a business Dem. You'd think someone as intelligent as Jim would be able to see through the media's bullshit, but whatever.
I'm so tired of having politics injected into every facet of my life
Get used to having MAGA politics injected into every aspect of your life. No more rights, no more polio vaccines, no more Tik Tok, no more voting, no more trade with the rest of the world, no more protecting women from bleeding to death in hospital parking lots, no more religious freedom, etc. @@matthiasthulman4058
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was bill dundee related to crocodile dundee
6:35 Yet, when Santino confronts him, Cornette cries out for help.
Relax, Santino.
That's not what happened...
These would all be infinitely better if the interviewer was Conrad instead of the annoying cohost Corny has on his show...
I'm surprised anyone likes Conrad. He is unbearable. Brian Last is infinitely better
I think the exact opposite. I’m not looking to get my debt restructured with Conrad’s data’s.
Conrad is one annoying fuck, my friend.
And a con man.
8:55
Cornette: "Yes, of course Dundee could have pressed charges."
Cornie's bias is sometimes dizzying. I don't think he even pays attention to himself when he gets into these promotion war rants.
Dundee, to cops: "I pulled a gun on this guy in a parking lot. He wrestled the gun away and punched me in the face. I want him arrested!!!"
What part of "He was outnumbered in the parking lot" did you miss? Three or four guys against one guy with a gun the guy with the gun could very easily claim self defense. Especially in the southern part of the USA.
@@cptnmrgnkid Savage hit him before the gun.thats why Dundee got the gun out of his car
I thought that Dundee was a shooter.
Dear sirs may I be your intern or work for ya. I am from London ky I liked wrestling sine 1980 at age 4 Stayed in wrestling till gimmick wwe mandsaur I was getting laid driving fast getting wild hi drunk Came back nitro start. Superstion shows were awesome.
Bill Dundee lived longer than Randy Pofo. So I guess he won.
@The Shape Mask Right now we're talking about Bill Dundee. He has a better chance to make it to the WWE HOF. Randy Savage and Ms. Elizabeth should've been in the 1st 3 induction ceremonies!!
Constipated in sin city Savage is the 3rd best ever behind flair and hogan..Dundee is only a legend in midget wrestling
@MemphoWrasslin1 said flair 1 hogan 2 savage 3...Ive been following wrestling since the late 70s nobody cared about memphis guys except people living in that area..Lawler and his cronies were a joke to the NWA,WCW,WWF,WWE..Sorry its the truth..
@MemphoWrasslin1 selling out a couple hundred seats in a high school is alot different that selling 93,000 tickets in detriot..Midget dundee wouldnt even be seen in that arena..Listen I dont like Hogan never did..But you have to give him his due for carrying the business and exploding it all those years..My personal favorites were Sting and HBK..But neither even close to the impact and accomplishments that Flair,Hogan and a distant 3rd Macho Man did..
That is not the true story. I was a member of American Fitness Center there in Goodlettsville Tn. I have know realized that Mr Cornette is just full of BS in these post. I was there when this happened and this the facts. Steamboat Patterson distracted Dundee then Randy Poffo ran from behind a car a sucker punched Dundee with a pair of brass knucks. It broke the bone above Dundee's eye and not his jaw as cornette says. And they did go to Nashville court and the judge dismissed the case due to it being a he said he said situation. Get the facts straight before you tell a story please
Steamboat? Patterson? This was what 83? Steamboat was working in the Carolinas and Patterson NYC. Guarantee you they weren't anywhere close to Nashville at that time
You didn't understand, I didn't say steamboat and Patterson. There was a guy in the ky area using the name steamboat Patterson, one person not two
Don Julio oh haha sorry my bad
No problem, thanks
He did say it was "as he heard it". Meaning he probably heard it from a reliable source and he is just repeating what he was told. I've found Cornette to be one of the only reliable sources for these kinds of stories.
thats not the way it happened! randy suckerpunched bill in the begining. check dundees video!
Dundee also is full of shit most of time.
Randy would of beat the shit out of Superstar