Reviewed: 2022 Pappy Van Winkle 15, 20, 23, and 13 Year Rye
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- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2022
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Fred reviews this year's Pappy Van Winkle line.
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Can always rely on Fred for blatantly honest reviews. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying it's extremely enjoyable to hear these overpriced/hyped releases are nothing to chase and empty our pockets over. Cheers!
Fred, I appreciate your content, honesty and expertise! I’ll stick with my Knob Creek 12 as my “high end” pour. I have blinded it against some allocated expressions and it’s come out on top every time. I think that 12-15 years is the sweet spot on almost all bourbons.
Knob creek 12 is a great everyday drinker. Really enjoyed every bottle ive had
Great analysis - thanks for doing this! One video I'd be interested in is a tour of your personal bar / stash. What are the bottles you always have on hand just for you or for you to mix or drink everyday? Not the bottles you have for the job or because people sent them to you but the bottles you go to a store and pick up when you see you're getting low because you always want them on hand.
Any Pappy will never be worth the money that it costs.
I appreciate these reviews Fred. I’m prepping myself for next years lottery where if drawn we get to pick one bottle off the table full of allocated stuff from BTAC, Pappy, Coy Hill, Birthday Bourbon, etc etc. Super tough decision this year getting drawn relatively early with a lot of options on the table.
I have had a handful of pours of these. The rye is always feels like the most consistent pour. I always think it has an almost agricole rum quality to it with a more complex palette.
Thanks for another great video and review. I was fortunate enough to score my first bottle of Pappy (20 year) in the 2022 TW BTAC lotto. Sounds like I got the best of 'em. Cheers, Fred!
I bet the 20 is AMAZING! GREAT score my friend. Be proud you have it. Quick story, I've been a lover of whiskey for over 20 years but only in the last 10 years have I been exposed to this "whiskey" hype, the genre, allocated bottles etc etc. I got in good with my local big box liquor store and routinely get offered allocations. I became aware of the Pappy craze when Bourdain first started it and never had a pour until 2020. That year the store that I now have an excellent relationship with just opened a new location and I was one of their first customers through the door. Fast forward to the BTAC release that year, my guy offered me, get this, GTS, VW Lot B and a Weller 12 year. This I can tell you....
The Lot B was a special taste. I'm in over 20yrs already drinking spirits and appreciating them, and that Lot B stood out as special. It just didn't taste like any other bourbon I had ever had. Delicious. Reminded me of a nice cognac. Raisin, fig, dates, all wrapped up in a caramel taffy. Superb. The next year a friend got the OR 10 and I really believe it was some of the tastiest bourbon I've ever had, next to the 12.
Last year, I was awarded the Pappy 15 for my loyalty. Immediately i went on youtube to see some thoughts on the product. Came across Fred who I had already become aware of through some interviews with The Russel's and Van Winkle's. I saw this video of him shitting all over the line. I initially was bumbed out and thinking, "Damn. The one year I get a Pappy and the whiskey guru just wiped his ass with the entire line. Then I cracked my 15...............................................
This is the finest whiskey that I have ever tasted. It's so fucking unique. It tastes NOTHING like Weller products. NOTHING. It reminded of the first time I tasted a 2019 Willet Family Rye in the sense that it stands alone on flavor profile. Fred might be a very knowledgeable guy when it comes to whiskey, but he is NOT the be all end all on what's tasty as fk and what aint. Opinions are like........
This is the creme de la creme line of wheated bourbons and I'm kind of jealous of you for scoring the 20, because that's the one I asked for. lol. Cheers dude!!!!!
Thanks for the review. I have been fortunate to have been able to get a taste of Pappy’s at a few bars and through a friends collection. It is a joy to be able to try them and certainly would love to secure a bottle at MSRP!!
Being able to get an honest opinion is something rarely seen with these as one can’t help but be biased by the pure inability to get them.
Really appreciated the recommendation of similar whiskeys to the taste profile.
This is why I'm so glad that cheaper stuff tastes better..lol... I only want to get Pappy for a collectors item!
I watch your reviews for the same reason people watch professional sport... It's entertaining and very informative. There is virtually 0% chance I'll find some Pappy in Europe, but it's fun to watch the experience of it. Keep it up! It's fun :D
I know in the poll I said I didn't care for it, but I'm here as a fan watching it. I really like this more candid style of review for these. So many channels do a high production episode when they do Pappys/BTAC.
Was in Kentucky this past week and tried the Russell 10 as a warm up for the Pappy 23. Thought the Pappy 23 was miles better. Didn’t think the oak was that strong. If anything it kind of felt strangely “clean”. I totally get the rose note, but also the tobacco came through at the end. I always find Van Winkle do be very balanced. This review did make me glad that I have a sample of Michter’s 20.
Yay, love bourbon season Got a 15 last year, crossing my fingers for the same this year.
You definitely sold me on the Liquid Death. 😁 And I want that glencairn.
I'm glad you did this. I will never be able to afford these expressions and you are the closest I'm going to get. Thanks Fred!
I used to get the pappy 15 for $60. Never cared for it and was befuddled when the hype train began.
I was unable to Attend the USO charity. But my buddy Got me The Glass. I still wish I was able to attend. But it's nice to think of you and this community as I have my Bourbons...."and fried chicken"!
Possibly Turkey...
Great vid, I get the apricot marmalade note on the George T Stagg 2019, I love that one.
Thank you Fred.
The replacement for Pappy 15 is another bottle many can never get? I travel quite a bit and am always on the hunt for bourbons I can’t find at home. Only ever seen Weller Special Reserve.
I really like heavy oak. But then again I’m a Texas funk kind of guy (being from Texas). However, I really like to listen to Fred’s thoughts on these.
Fred M thanks so much for all you teach up, love your post…
65% of the people just wanted you to open the bottle LOL!!!
Fred, great video and content per the usual! Thanks for doing this one. I think it's important for people with palates similar to yours (from watching your channel/reading your reviews) to watch this. As we all know, the Pappy hype train is very real!
Not surprising the Rye came out on top, that seems to be the common consensus usually. Too bad it’s the rarest one 😂
None of these do anything for me anymore… These are waining shadows of a time that no longer exists in my personal whiskey playbook. Old legacy names that people continue to look for because they don’t know any better…with all the amazing craft, an independent juice out there, people miss out on what truly amazing whisky tastes like. Just my humble .02
Fred it seems Ike these bottles are just not for you, if you’d like I can take some of them of your hands….😜 interesting to hear your thoughts, I agree, of the ones I have had the 15 is usually my favorite. The Rye was shockingly great, considering I am not a rye fan typically. However I have yet to try the 20 or 23 year. Love the channel, happy holidays🥃
Thanks Fred. I've enjoyed your videos. Cheers.
Liquid Death ironically kept me alive during the St. Louis Bourbon Festival
What a great time that was!!!
Huge thanks Fred. I certainly wouldnt hold it against hunters to seek the Pappy line nor those that love it however its nice to hear an honest and detailed review from an educated palate. Love it.
Makes sense to me. I'm a R.R. 10 yr. fan. Great review. Thanks, Fred.
When you say worth the price are you referring to secondary price or msrp?
Thanks Fred for telling the truth 🙏
For some reason my state didn’t have a lottery this year
The Smoke Wagon Rye is 51/49, not the normal 95/5.
Thank you for what Hype tastes like😂
Are the 20 and 23 yr old expressions from Buffalo Trace?, Or are they from the pre BT stock?
what are you reaching for lately? just as a daily drinker or on a nice weekend night
Wow you have the whole bottle. Are they authentic??
yes. bought from highly reputable retailer, who got from distributor, who got from distillery.
It needs to open up
Sounds like a drain pour! 😂
Ill take all the ones your not fond of! Very surprised
Wife got me a 15 for Christmas.
Hey Fred ,, how bout trade me the rest of that pappy 20 year for 3 bottles of Russell 10 ????
Pappy 12 is by far the superior bourbon in their line up. Weller 12 is better and much cheaper. Both are really hard to come by though and neither worth chasing. I've had them all and I'm sorry to say, they are only worth purchasing (at retail) to flip. Just not that good. Never were.
Price in the whiskey would doesn't equal flavor.. its all about rarity
Have you tasted or reviewed the 2023 Pappy 15??
Good bourbon is bourbon you can actually find at reasonable prices. This stuff isn't gold! It's not a commodity! It's meant to be opened and enjoyed!
The amount of jealous haters out there is comical 😂
OLD FITZ 17 is a Buffalo Killer all day.
Personally, all the BT Pappy's are a miss for me. I was completely blinded (didn't know what any of the pours were while I was tasting them) and even the 4yr Castle and Key bourbon beat the 15yr Pappy. I think it's all highly overrated and mostly living off the hype.
Fred, what's the point? Can't get em, can't afford em 😕
Some people get lucky and can get them. Others wanna know since they’ll never get them. If you look past your own nose you’d figure that out…
You said you were sending us samples first. What gives man.
wait you didn't get them? damn fedex!
As suspected, you’re paying for the hype & status of the label
Many past releases were well worth the hype. Not this year’s
Seems like you got screwed.
I will never truly trust any Pappy review that isn't done as a blind. I do not believe anyone can remove their bias knowing they're drinking Pappy. Yes, I popped in to make a comment. No, I didn't actually watch the review. Don't care. I'll very likely never own a bottle. If I ever get the chance to buy one at a fair price I'll do it regardless of any review just because it's Pappy and I imagine that's the case for most anyone else.
Confused...why are u commenting on a video you didn't watch and why did you get 11 likes. This seems odd 🤔
What a strange comment
Thank you!
@@TheMNbassHunter this comment was the embodiment of “well if I can’t do it; no one else can!” In reference to being unbiased. Fred basically had unlimited access to any bourbon he wants if he really wanted. So pappy isn’t gonna be nearly as big of a deal for him as opposed to someone like you who will never find one
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Sorry Fred, but the general public can't get this....I won't watch...
Ok
Uh should still watch. Might be surprised.
I thought this year's 15 was better than 2021 but not as good as 2020
Old grand dad the best ever
No offense to Fred who is awesome, but reviews like this are ABSOLUTELY ASININE. No average Joe is EVER going to be able to obtain any of these. EVER. I live in NC and travel a lot - have been to 200+ plus liquor stores in the past year in 11 states - and have never seen a Pappy less than $1000 😂😂😂😂😂
Well, I was on the fence about reviewing them after I bought them. but I get as many requests to review these as I do everyday products. So either I am a reviewer or I am not. Thus, I reviewed them. Also, if you watch it, well, maybe, just maybe, I save you some $ and FOMO for this year's products.
@@FredMinnick Didn't mean any disrespect. Just totally unattainable. Merry Christmas though 🎄😊, maybe my kids love me enough to give me a Pappy for Christmas!
The current bourbon market is driven by hype and FOMO. I’m sure the distilleries laugh every day about the $20 bottles that sat on the shelf collecting dust 25 years ago now fetching thousands on the secondary market. Pappy and the other unicorn bottles are just the modern day beanie babies for middle aged men, who value the prestige of owning a bottle for Facebook photos, more than the whisky in the bottle. Lucky for us whisky drinkers, there are plenty great bottles under $100 commonly available.