I Just Bought Three Van Winkle Bourbons and Pitted Them Against Elite Michter's 10 year and 25
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- Опубликовано: 18 дек 2020
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In the question of, is Fred Smoking Crack?, he spent way too much money on Pappy Van Winkle 15 year, Van Winkle Lot B 12 year old and 10 year old Old Rip Van Winkle. He then put them up agains the gifted bottles of Michter's 10 year and Michter's 25 year old. Who wins in this blind battle?
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excellent tasting- I've only had the Michter's 10 and Lot B myself - hoping to get my hands on the Pappy 15 or older Michter's one of these days. I really appreciate that you do the super high-end tastings as well as the everyday bourbon tastings. I dig the range. Thanks Fred
Glass A - 1st - Pappy Van Winkle 15 year
Glass B - 5th - Van Winkle Special Reserve 12 year Lot B
Glass C - 4th - Michter's 10 year
Glass D - 2nd - Michter's 25 year old
Glass E - 3rd - Old Rip Van Winkle 10 year
Don’t understand how you don’t have a bigger following. You are one of the best in the game👌
that's kind of you, Cole. I have only been doing RUclips for a year, but I've been covering whiskey for 15 years and have written 7 books. I find that RUclips is a new world and when people find the channel, they have a blast. So, welcome to the community. Let's drink some bourbon!
I had to pause this before it even started and give it a like because it's a great title.
I loved your timed analysis and description of the finish on the Pappy 15. Great work!
thank you, Kevin
never thought I would like something like this, but I did
What a phenomenal tasting. I have 3 of these. Thanks for the amazing content Fred! Truly amazing.
Interesting reviews. I may get a chance to try one of these in my life...You have some palate.My opinion you’re the best. I followed your older video on how to make a mint julep and ,once again,perfect.Thanks also for the advice on less expensive great bourbons.I met a person who told me to check you out on RUclips and he was spot on. Thanks again man keep those values coming to those of us who can’t get the quote rare and expensive stuff.Michters is my favorite bourbon.Of course there are many that I consider close but that stuff is just special to me. Keep em comin’ Fred you’re the best.Gotta pick your book up
Love this video but unfortunately even when I lived in KY/TN I had never even seen any of these bottles on a shelf
Great review. Definitely searching to add a bottle of PVW15 year and Michters 25 to the collection.
Stumbled across this after picking up Michters 10 today, cheers
cool high end review. amazing you where able to get these. great review. thanks for sharing.
What a wonderful lineup! Great video-happy holidays!
thank you!!!!
What Jeff said...we like these “high end “reviews.and and also appreciate when you review the more affordable good whiskies.This one would have been tough for the most refined palate.Thanks for making me feel better about the Michters 10,as it was the most expensive I intend to spend.Thanks Fred..I look up to you in this particular endeavor.Even though you won’t ever respond.You give the feeling that we are sitting right there with you.
I’m so responding to this!!!
Thank you for the kind words. My favorite videos are when I can shed light on a good bourbon you may not be thinking of. Cheers!!!
My question is that how do you get your hands on them.
I would have LOVED to be in on that tasting flight! Never had Mich 25!
I've had PVW 23, 20, 15, M10, M20, M25. M20 is the best tasting bourbon my mouth has enjoyed. PVW 20 would be second, followed by PVW15. M25 & PVW23 is way too busy and oakey to enjoy at the levels they deserve.
Stumbled onto this video recently. I picked up an M20 last winter. I have been trying to decide if I want to open it or trade it for a PVW15 or two. EC18 while a good bottle, isn't my favorite, but I don't think Heaven Hill does older bourbon very well. Just don't want to open M20 and find it an oaky mess.
I’m enjoying the review but I always catch myself gazing at what you have on the shelf behind you. Any rhyme or reason in your organization? Love the timed finish and it’s explanation….this vid was very well done!
Having just begun my bourbon journey in April of this year. Finding Old Rip, & Lot B side by side on a shelf last week at $200 for the pair. Needless to say I almost fell over while scooping them up!!
Thumbs-downing your comment because of jealousy
@@cfor1950
HAHA.... that’s ok. I only commented because I have seen the dark side in some local shops. George T. $750, Weller Full Proof $450, Pappy (not sure which, red velvet bag) $2,500! Another shop you could buy those same bottles as pkg deals with 10-15 bottles of garbage (my opinion) at still $1000 plus price tags. I do believe I have been very lucky in my very young 8 months of Bourbon love (tho it may be regional) . My mom & pop convenience store has been the biggest boon so far. OWA, Blantons, Weller Special Reserve, Buffalo trace have been frequent. So yes when I saw Old Rip, & Lot B at “reasonable” mark up over msrp. I did have a moment of Twilight Zone. Cheers, and enjoy the Amber liquid of the Gods with the ones you love & respect.
@@whatsinaname6745 haha, I read you loud and clear - cheers to you also!
Yesterday I also saw the Old Rip and Lot B side by side... $499 and $599, what a joke!
@@100puremustard5
The 2 I bought were not from my Mom & Pop convenience store. BUT..... that store has since gotten an Old Rip, Lot B, & a George T...... prices as follow (same order listed above) $399....$449..... $499...... SMH!!!!!!
As a new Bourbon drinker, I enjoy your videos!!! Just tried Buffalo Trace today for the first time. It was good.
Thank you so much!!! I am excited for you in this journey!!!
I have had the oppurtunity to buy both the 15 and the 23 year old Pappy, (still have some 23 left) the cost for the 23 was NOT worth the improvemnet over the 15 year old bottle. I think the 15 year old was perfect!
Well said
@@FredMinnick I Wish I could find a Bottle of 15 for a the price I paid a few years ago. Here on Long Island they are just insane right now.
Hi Fred, I enjoyed watching you do this tasting. Just wondering what year the Michter’s 10-year-old was?
The 2019 ive tried was exactly how he describes... once aired out its very vanilla tobacco for me,i loved it personally.
For me I will settle on getting a glass here and there of these when I can, plenty of great bottles that are on the shelf.
On my 50th Birthday I had some Pappy 10 year and Old Fitz 8 year.....
Enjoyed both very much, but Old Fitz won the day, just excellent....
YMMV
I'll also take a Sample please Sir. Great tasting mate. Just found Rip 10 bottle. 🎅🏾
Send me some Van Winkle samples! Merry Christmas! 😇
Based on your descriptions and my personal knowledge of the Van Winkle line that I love and having had the M10 but not the M25, I guessed 1 and 2 to be VW15 and M25. Not having had M25 I had know way of knowing which one was what. In third I had VW12 since it was in the running. Note, this is the first video of yours I have ever seen. Now knowing your proof preference I can see the ORVW in 3rd. 4th I had M10 based on your description and I was certain I had that right. Last I picked ORVW but easily see why you ranked them the way you did.
My take away based on your descriptions and proof points would rank 1-PVW15, 2-M25, 3-VW12, 4-ORVW, last M10. The only one I don't have and probably never will is the M25 and probably won't miss is. The M10 I could do without completely. My go to is PVW20 for nose and pallet. The VW12 is next. As soon as I want to add the proof point PVW15 is King and I do love me some ORVW. I was surprised how close I was considering I couldn't smell, taste or feel any of them in the video!
you may become a tasting handicapper if ever such a thing exists
Are you still doing your value bourbon championship? Loved that series.
planning to bring things like that back, yes. glad you loved it!
@@FredMinnick you're the man! Great!
Thank you!
Your sounds of silence are impressively deafening and informative. Sometimes more is said during the quite, followed with your thought filled explanation.
Here's me not being able to get any of these. Fred, you have the best "Job" in the world.
No arguments here.
I love my gig!
Local place for me had a flight of the 10, 12 and 15 I think it was. 1oz samples for $185. Couldn't justify it yet. Would need a healthy bonus or stimulus check to be in the mood to spend that on a few ounces of whiskey. Maybe some day.
I would wait. I have a place near me that would let people do that, but in 2oz pours, and for more like $135 or $140.
what unit did you serve in the US Army?
@fredminnick is that a military boots on the shelf ?
Yes. Those are the pair I wore in Iraq. Or one of the pairs.
Fred I’m new to the channel, love it so far. I don’t see any Scotch on you wall. Do you do Scotch reviews?
thank you, rick. yeah, I've done quite a few. need to do more!
I love High Park 18 and spent the last two years appreciating whisky after only drinking wine for 25 years. Built a wine seller which is now converting to whisky. I’m getting into it the same way as wine
Well, I've had plenty of ORVW and Lot B. I have a 2018 PVW15 with a couple ounces left. It so happens I came into possession of a M20 last winter. Have spent a year trying to decide if I want to open it or maybe find someone with a couple PVW15s they'd like to trade. If the M25 isn't an oaky mess maybe the M20 would be ok? PVW23 never seems to do well against the 15 and EC18, while drinkable isn't my favorite. I wonder how consistent the M20 and 25s are from year to year.
Good video
Had a bottle of Pappy 15 gifted to me for my birthday. It is very good, really well balanced, checks all the boxes etc. And I like how I got different things out of the glass over time. But it just didn't quite have that "WOW" factor for me. Honestly I wouldn't pay over $200. Now obviously if I saw it on the shelf for $500 I'd grab it because I know what I could flip it for! Glad I have a bottle... but for the price there's definitely better stuff out there for me.
I'll keep my Old Rip 10 , 79.95 Jewel-Osco pappy drawing.
that's awesome
Had 'em all, and that one is still my favorite.
I won orvw 10 at jewel also!
Whatever that means
Wondering how someone without pull can "buy" some of these. Lol
secondary market is brutal,not just price but unavailability.i just saw my first in person bottles of pappy at a local high end italian restaurant bar that sells pours for decent prices.so I'm excited to go there and spend a little for tasting I may never get the chance to buy a whole bottle of.
Hell I can’t even acquire Michters 10 year old much less 25 yo
Can you recommend some other bourbons with that thick buttery mouth coating effect…
I been debating trading my pappy 15 for a wlw and gts. Or a eht 18 year. You might have just changed my mind Fred
I love pappy 15, but it has finished WLW & GTS for me on a couple occasions.
@@smithsoncpa when you say finished what do you mean?
@@dennisp362 Sorry it placed behind them in blind flights
@@smithsoncpa oh ya I figured. I'm a proof guy so they'd prolly win for me too
Thanks for the blind tasting review. I appreciate it.
Frankly when I see a well stocked background of bottles like yours I think it's great except there are no Single Malt Scotch and I get this sense of some kind of limited viewpoint. I feel sad. Someone who can appreciate whisky, but I guess only a limited corner of the spectrum. I see this on other channels also. I think of this as a phenomenon. This strange situation is maybe more interesting than the taste comparison.
Folks who don't know Scotch probably also don't know that probably 85% of single malt choices have no peat, yet I'd bet whisky folk who have no contact with Scotch probably tried some peaty Scotch and then they just assumed they're not into Scotch. Oh well. We are all free to pursue our interests. Whatever you enjoy.
Cheers!
Thanks for the great testing. But, why would you use such a large mic. on such a set? It's crowded already without the metal thing in front on you.
Jealous as hell you could get your hands on all these. One day ill get my hands on something in the Pappy Line.
I walked into my local liquor store last week just to see what they had on the shelf and there sat a bottle of Pappy 10 year and 12 year! I jumped on the 10 year for $450 and they would not let me buy the 12 year when I wanted to later that day. They said one per customer per day. Of course when I went back it was gone.
@@brettrun8575 thats awesome. Its a lottery here in PA, its probably 20 bottles and about 40K people enter. So the odds are not in my favor!
@@brettrun8575 One customer per day? The bastards!
Red Dot Liquors in Frankfort, Ky has Pappy 15 and Van Winkle 12
When I visit family in Frankfort, Red Dot is a must stop.
2022 michters barrel strength rye
You must get a buzz after these videos??LOL
it's nice to know that the only one of those five I have tasted also won.
So let me get this straight. One of the premier bourbon enthusiasts in the world cannot get his hands on 2 of the premier bourbons in the world. Seems legit. #2020
I wish I could put the South Park gif here, .... " and it's gone."
@Jason, he's had those bottles before, and may even have a bottle in his bunker somewhere. But they do a fresh batch every year. All he is missing is the 2020 version. But he has absolutely had these bottles ,previously.
@@trackvol I know I was just goofing off. Cheers!
You disgust me man! Why didn't you send me any of those? Yeah, I know you haven't got a clue who I am but you should have intuited in advance that I would find your channel and sent me an invitation to join you before I actually found you. Use the force, man!
I will work on my skills. Hahaha
No matter how many favors? Did you try sexual favors? If not, you did not really try.
Respectfully Fred, I find this entire concept very hard to take seriously . I imagine a palate as dialed in and refined as yours knows if not exactly but an extremely close idea of what your drinking, especially knowing what the choices are going into it. How do you grapple this going into a tasting and does this not include some sort of inevitable bias?
how do we really know its blind, personally i think you know
Ok q
are you shill for the distillers? How come I see so much bonded Evan Williams in the market? They hire you?
Do some basic googling you tool. He’s legit.