Blown Jasper Remanufactured 5.4L 3v Triton Engine Made it Whole 98k Miles!
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Almost bought a jasper once. My mechanic highly recommended them. After spending hours of reading jasper bad reviews I ended up getting a different motor and mechanic
@@Tomaato55 I got a remanufactured motor from LKQ it was 2100 with a separate 500 dollar core charge. I've put almost 2000 miles on the new motor and it's still running great
@@derekderekison3241 2000 miles? lol wtf thats literally nothing
@@bobymo101 no its 2000 miles literally nothing would be zero miles. You will figure it out
As a former Ford Tech, I never had a great deal of trust in Jasper engines. The strangest things would fail, usually due to improper rebuilding by the third shift Monkeys with Crescent wrenches and sledge hammers.
Dudes in Pakistan can do a better job at the roadside, in the dirt.
Hasn’t been a third shift at JET since 2004.
@@stevehicks8944Talk about not "getting" the joke ;-)
Lol, why did the fomoco pos need rebuilt in the first place?
is there a ford reman motor company you recommend?
I had a dream this dude gave me a hug and told me my truck was going to be alright lolol
Saw the SL trademark on the piston fragment. Silv-o-Lite cast piston now made by UEM. Super cheapo replacement used by most big rebuilders.
I saw that also... Silv-o-Lite used to be good quality. We used them at Motor Replacement way back (70's 80's) when I was a machinist/builder. There were worse pistons back then. Miss those days!
"Ya, fresh gloves!"
Proceeds to dig right back into the sludge that made him change his gloves.
I had to get camera equipment
Just thought it was funny. Keep up the great vids and thanks!
@@FordTechMakuloco I have a 2010 F350 with 5.4 it's on its 3rd Jasper. Lol
@@johntaylor2380 how many miles? my 05 expo. is at 185k original engine.
@@mbtech2003 Ford motor lasted 175,000 and was treated bad. Those Jasper's been babied and don't make it to 100,000. Truck now has 380,000
It didn't sound that bad. Throw some lucas in it.
I second adding Lucas and ship it
And don't forget to flex seal the block!
@@Bereft777 Haha
Lmao! Almost spit my beer out!😆
If a guy was inclined, he'd give it an Eye-talian tuneup with some lucas...then you'd do the right thing and ignore it.
The 5.4 : “Taka -taka -tac -tac”
Piston: “I don’t like the noise I’m out guys.”
lmbo
It's not a piston it's bad exhaust manifolds I had the same problem I replaced the manifold and it stopped the tick tick now it runs like a beast first on race day
Ford reman s is a 3-year unlimited mile warranty transmissions and engines
Mike Durnell Ford remans are also poop. Especially the Powerstroke Remans they are
Poop10X
Powerstroke back in the day was not made by Ford who was made by international now Ford has the patent on the engine and I haven't heard any problems with the new power strokes 6.7 or below or above I used to drive one for Effingham equity very fertilizer company and it was a 2012 with a small power stroke and it ran like a striped ass gorilla
Way back in the days I bought a Jasper Ford 5.0L for my bronco. While checking the head bolts, 2 broke. Turned out all the head bolts were severely rusted with deep pitting. I ended up replacing all the head bolts. Also a lot of rusting in the water jackets. Never bought a Jasper engine again.
If your 5.4 is making noise tick tick tick try changing the exhaust manifolds
Is that tick tick tick is loose exhaust Manifolds works every time
@@mikedurnell They crack. Get new one from the dealer. Parts store manifolds almost fit.
Wen I was a Saturn dealer tech we had an S series come in with a jasper engine that was leaking oil. Between planing the head, decking the block, and doing a line bore the timing cover would not line up with the oil pan and the top of the head. We had to send the timing cover and have them take about .030 off of the top and bottom so the oil pan and valve cover would seal up. We tried to explain to their field engineers that came out that Saturn does not want you decking the block or line boring the engine. If it’s that bad they wanted you to replace the block. That was back in the early days of lost foam casting.
"Once the piston came apart and it hit the head.... all downhill from there..."
LOL great description of engine failure.
Remanufactured in what way? 98,000 miles is a short life for any engine that has been well maintained. This is a great Automotive RUclips channel. Thank you for the great content.
Remanufactured in a way where it goes boom at around 100k.
made it about as long as the factory original engine...
Connecting rods are there means the piston shattered. I've seen that happen before on well maintained engines. Also we don't know if those were new OEM or aftermarket or re-used pistons when Jasper rebuilt it.
Head gaskets let loose possibly, Water doesnt compress, got in the cylinders and the pistons were the weak point in the system and boom
The 5w-20 hydraulic oil they say to use is crazy .
willing to bet it dropped that valve at decent rpm is what started the whole mess. about the only way i've seen pistons fall apart
That was my first thought as well. Blown many a small block chevy circle track engines that way.
Not only do I agree with you but I wonder if the reman was short block only. In which case Jasper isn't responsible. I think the dirty valve cover indicates a short block ONLY purchase. I have this Jasper short block engine. I took my heads in and rebuilt them myself. Fingers crossed the bottom was done correctly. Only at 60K now. Will see what happens. But yes, that valve started the sequence, Brian says "bad rebuild of bottom end" then sees the farled valve and fails to rescind his belief that is was a bad bottom build.
@MGD 60D Only difference is: a pickup truck, you pull over on to the apron; an airplane, you die.
I got 30k out of my last Jasper. They replaced it, I sold the truck 😁
Got a 95 F150 5.0 now with almost 200k on the clock. After checking everything (compression, vacuum, cooling etc.) Only replaced plugs, leads, cap and rotor, water pump, thermostat and fitted new brakes. This truck is a champion!
Almost 100,000 for a jasper reman....... best I've ever seen!!!!
Lol'😅
I love the forged crankshafts in these. They're a work of art, pretty trick for a truck engine!
I bet that was surprising. Amazing thing is that it actually started and sputtered a while!
My dad Ford Original 5.4 3 Motor lasted over 543,000 miles on his Lincoln Mark Pickup truck and he sold it for 1800 hundred dollars. Not aloud to drive anymore.
Wow 543,000 miles that is amazing.
are you sure it was a 3 valve? Lincoln had the 4 valve engine (and dealer/service department "kissing up" - since it was a lincoln)
@@brianstough5286 I had F 150 & he had the Lincoln Mark Pickup with the 8 cylinder like mind 5.4
Well I guess I've been lucky. I have a 08 F150 with the 5.4 . Bought it new and have kept the oil changed and so forth and it has 235,000 with no major problems. Most major thing I've done is replace the alternator once. 😎👍👍👋🇺🇸🤙
Same except I have a 05 with 218,000
I have had several 3V 5.4’s no issues. Good.
I have a 2v with 235,000 did the chains at 205, coils plugs and a alternator at 230 that's it.
I've had 2 fail right about the mileage you are bragging about :) Go find some wood to knock on and fast lol.
Yep, very lucky. The Ford 3V paid for my last house. In that respect, I love them.
Burned by them to many times back in the day, started doing my own rebuilds because of it, too time consuming so the machine shops that did my work got the daily driver rebuilds. Then manufacturer's replacement engines became more affordable and usually sold a customer on that route.
I have a 2009 F150 5.4 Triton with 307,000 miles that has never been touched. I have a slight knock when at full temp coming from the passenger side cam phasor. I have been anal about oil changes and other required maintenance. The truck runs like a top, no engine codes, no oil usage and no leaks. The entire drive train is all original. Best truck I've ever had. I just bought a used 2017 ecoboost but kept my 2009 as a farm truck and I really want to see how far it goes before it lays down on me. No sign of failure yet!!
👍🏿 was wondering about frequent oil changes
@@ptolalibertad I changed at least every 5,000 miles and many times closer to 4,000. Since 300,000 I switched from 5:20 to 5:30 because I thought that with 300,000 miles of engine wear it might be a good idea.
@@l-cranchjustthinking8302 i changed oil every 3000, 240,000 on my v10 engine is quiet but burns oil. 1 Qt + between oil changes No smoking though Has a lazy lifter.. i just put trans fluid before a oil change whenever it comes back
If you want to keep it running change the oil cooler. When it blows you will pump all the oil into the coolant side and the engine will run dry on oil. The oil cooler will fail very soon
@@whirlwind8825 thanks for the heads up👍
I decided to call various large ford dealerships and talk to their engine guys. They all say the oil pumps aren't the problem with the 5.4 3v, and it was the cam phasers which they've redesigned along with other parts which solves the issues but the oil pump is the same even on a new ford reman and was not found to be the problem. Everyone of them recommended just doing a timing set and stay with the ford oil pump. It's so nuts all the varying information out there on this motor.
I have a 2011 expedition with 170k. Still running great. Strongly suggest you change oil frequently on Ford 3v engines. Jasper is the Dollar General of engine remanufacturing.
Jasper engines fired an employee for offensive speech. They don't stand for 1st Amendment rights.
@whiskey builder got 228K on mine only issue the plastic intake manifold crack…
@@troymattingly3071 He got to say what he wanted to say and he got to experience the consequences of his statements. That's as free as it gets.
@@troymattingly3071 You silly clowns done understand the difference between the mean old government and private citizens....The First amendment protects you from that mean old government....Private citizens are free to retaliate....just like when I come on to your private property...and and tell you what a dunce you are ...I have no protected speech there...
When I am employed by you...I have no constitutional right to insult you or your customers...Sad that so many like you have no idea about The Constitution...
@@erikhilsinger9421 I wonder what he said. Yeah, If I say something like "I work for Jasper and they suck" I'd probably be fired. haha.
I am not a mechanic, clueless when it comes to this stuff. That said, your channel has allowed me to learn a ton. I am about to buy an engine to go in my 2001 F150 Supercrew with 245k miles. The reason is, it is my only means of transportation. I use it for work travel, fishing, camping, around town everything, etc. So the new engine will be much lower mileage, and be the main as long as it runs as good as this original 5.4L V8 Triton. We rebuild the original with my neighbor guiding me along. Great video. Thx.
get a reman
When i was redoing the timing on my moms 2010 expedition i found out it was a 7 year old jasper engine. Everything appeared to be ok but i also had a valve spring look like that on the passenger side, 3rd cylinder back, intake. Had to buy a special tool so i could remove the old valve spring and install a new one. So far everything has been okay got all the timing components from ford
Oil and water don't mix, Ford "Hold my beer"
Glad I went with transmission shop rebuild using Ford OEM parts vs buying Jasper reman on my 6R80.
My shop always uses jasper transmissions, we haven’t had a issue with them yet. They seem to be quality pieces.
Their transmissions have served me well
@@Michael_J_M14 Finding a used wrecked and low mileage car anymore is just impossible. Where else do you think everyone gets used motor and trannies at? You can’t find stuff for my 93 Jeep 4.0 or my 95 Tbird or my 01 Jetta. That’s why I say it’s important to find someone who can rebuild your engine or transmission properly. They can correct and update a lot of problems it will be way better then a remanufactured one.
No such thing as Ford OEM Transmissions unless you buy a new vehicle. Even then "Ford" didn't make it.
In my experience with Jasper rebuilt Ford motors is that they usually came without the cam covers installed, and we'd have to swap them over from the blown engine. That's typically why they would look gross on a freshly painted block lol.
Yes it varies with each batch as is the same with other rebuilders hence the comment. It was a general comment and not about Jasper specifically. This is why Jasper was not mentioned in the same sentence. It’s just something to look out for and keep in mind when choosing a rebuilder.
@@FordTechMakuloco Gotcha, love the channel, keep up the good work!
If a guy didn't know any better, you'd think they had a little too much boost, and way too much NOS...LOL
It amazes me that Jasper is still in business after all these years...
98,000 miles from Jasper isn't all that much different than the mileage you can expect from a FACTORY 5.4 3Valve!! Perhaps you should replace "Jasper" with "Ford" in your "still in business" post above???!?
@@brianstough5286 My 5.4 lasted 199k miles before I had Brian replace the motor. It wasn't even bad/blown, it was preventative so I didn't have to trailer it to him when it did blow. Almost 200k on a factory Ford, I am the second owner, not bad Id say.
@@brianstough5286 Vast majority of 5.4 3Vs went beyond 200k miles with proper maintenance. Granted they're still not a great engine by any means but most problems were caused by poor maintenance
@@brianstough5286 No doubt GM has made some solid motors, Ford has as well. The 5.4 is just not one of them haha
With the new motor and updated parts it is more dependable, and I needed that for my wife and daughter. The truck is otherwise like new and I had Brian do some other needed work at the time to make it right.
I am no fan of the Triton line of motors though, never had good experience with them in the past, this one so far hasn't been bad, but I prefer others if I could choose haha
But sure, mine could have maybe made it another 100k, or not, maybe more if I had been able to maintain it since new(but I bought it at 140k). I just like my stuff to last long enough not to owe me, and sounds like you are the same!
@@AdmiralDG Completely understand the need for "piece of mind" if having your wife and daughter in it. Just remember, the ford "service intervals" were developed by the sales department, NOT the engineering department. Frequent maintenance!!!!
The Jasper engine that I had put into my 1995 Escort had over 190K miles on it when I junked the car last year.
88 escort.. 280,000 before i got rid of it.. read some had over 400,000 miles
You sure it was an escort, odometer couldnt be rite...
Many Ford Escorts last a very long time. And yes I bought the car new in October 1995 and junked it in September 2020 when the original automatic transmission went at 265K miles.
@@s99614 manual.. not 1 issue.. they had issues like every car but they lasted
I have a 2002 Ford Escort zx2 that I bought new from dealer. I have 290k on it. Ive done 3timing kits , Gates, done 3 transmissions, tore the original up when I was stuck in the ice. Done one fuel pump before it went out. I use A little lucas in it. Put in a little Marvel mystery before I flush oil. Purrs like a kitten, had it on the west side of Chicago,I like to ghetto cruise ,its rusted so they dont try & hi-jack me. They go after status symbol cars. I'm unworthy , so yes I ghetto cruise to my Dunkin donuts for coffee.
A couple of comments. The 4.6, 5.4 at Triton v10's were at one time manufactured for Jasper by Yamato Engines in Bellingham Wa. I worked there for 3 years. Yamato built all of the overhead cam engines for Jasper and shipped to Jasper Indiana. Looks to me like the head gasket failed and had a hydraulic lock and broke the piston and kicked the rod out the side of the block. This didn't happen overnight. It's been leaking a while. They use a MLS gasket where the head and block need to be finished to spec for the gasket to seal .If I remember correctly their engines had a 3 year 36000 warranty
It was a valve failure it was pretty clear cut.
@@FordTechMakuloco You may be right.
I have another engine failure video that shows the same end result but shows how it happens.
Proud to say I've had 2 5.4 3v go 350k + without having to open them up besides standard maintenance...remember regular service is cheaper then new motors.
Some people even avoid maintenance and go for luck
And buying an LS to begin with is cheaper than regular maintenance
As in maintenance do you mean oil changes?
@@anthonyhelfert9852 oil changes are the most important but all standard interval maintenance is important. When something broke I got it fixed asap. Also keep an eye on the oil in a 5.4 they start to burn oil as they age. My last one had just around 297k on it and it would burn a quart of oil every 1200 to 1500 miles.
@@devinmanderson so other than oil changes what else should I be doing to make sure my engine lasts a long time
That’s one way to deactivate cylinders. 🤣🤣
With fuel the way it is… you have to. The 5.4 is thirsty
My 05 with 3valve 5.4 has just tripped 250000 miles. Had 203000 when I bought it! Took it straight and had had the timing chain tensioner guides changed and cam phasers locked out. Think I wasted money. For all the bad rep these engines get it seems like half of the old trucks are still on the road. See dozens of them every day if I go to town. Sometimes I walk up to the wrong truck cause there are several just like in the small town I shop in!
My guess is that valve dropped and destroyed the one rod/piston which the pieces then flew around and broke the other piston/rod.
i would say you called it, engine lasted a long time before it failed , shame.
Now the question is did they overrev this engine causing that valve spring to float(and break) OR was it a defective part?? either way, rebuilder didn't fail his work was good enough to run on watoil mix
I'm thinking the fit up from valve guide to valve stem was always a little tight, the builder let it go and it let go.
@@rickdarris6152 That could do it too either way...
@@MDAdams72668 I was thinking this the whole time. I'm not really a big fan of jasper, but the endless bagging on them gets old. If the engine was going to fail from poor quality would have in the first year.
I personally think the customer did something harsh causing major damage. Or someone borrowed the truck and did some damage. This looks self inflicted not fault of the parts
Your deadpan delivery in this video is a natural comic gift. If you ever get tired of working on cars and trucks, you've got a shot at the Improv. Stay positive! Stay family-friendly!
""So this all looks pretty darn good...you know, on the front cylinders."
"So that's where the piston came from...."
"And you can see the piston down in there...WAAAY down in there...and half a connecting rod right there...and there's the other half...wedged in between the counterweight and the block."
"Hey! The thrust washer's OK!"
It seems the destruction began with the broke #7 exhaust valve which in my opinion is a very random event. We have probably used 50 Jasper Marine Engines for past 20 years with only a single failure on a 4 cyl "Iron Duke" and Jasper not only paid labor to replace it but gave us 2 additional hrs to retrieve the boat from another marina. Marine Engines endure 10-20 times the average load of a full size V8 truck engine. Ex: My 24' V8 5.7 boat engine consumes 11.5 GPH @ 28 mph on the water. My V8 5.3 truck towing the boat consumes average 6.75 GPH @ 65 MPH.
Their cooling and warm up cycles are more consistent than on the road engines, I have never torn down a marine engine with a dirty crankcase, that helps alot
Own a 2010 F350 it's on it's fourth motor. Has it's third Jasper motor in it right now. They don't last no matter how much you change the oil.
I hope you're getting these changed under warranty.
There is a company out of Maryland. I think it's called Powertrain Specialties. They make much better remanurfactured Ford engines.
No jasper does not warranty them
Jasper warranty says you have to send them the motor and pay them $800 to check it and see if it's something they warranty
wow that company spends more on advertising than it does in quality control
Yes Ford certainly does.
This is 98,000 on a rebuilt (Jasper) 5.4 engine. Not a new engine.
Mine is an 07 it has a 107 it has a 170000 miles on it and it don't leak and it don't leak transmission doesn't leak nothing leaks
@@mikedurnell i got an 07 with 207k original engine
My 2007 has 173,000 original engine The only thing I've done is tires brakes and exhaust manifolds
I'm not doubting you, but I can't recall a Jasper engine that came with valve covers installed from Jasper. Usually it's the installer that has to swap those from the old engine to new so dirty valve covers would be on the guy who put that in, probably not Jasper that did the rebuild.
Damn that thing is tore up !!! But it still ran.
My friends Jasper rebuilt t-case on his 2000 Dodge Ram 1500 worked twice before the big loud thud and now its a 2wd truck.
Our shop hasn’t purchased a jasper engine in years. My main beef is huge oil leaks at low miles
What is a jasper engine? Is jasper the name of the company remanufacturing them?
@@DLITINTHEHOUSE yes
Located in Jasper Indiana. About 50 miles north of my shop. We have seen quality suffer in last few years. Not sure why though.
Just out of curiosity, what does your shop go with? Are there any good aftermarket rebuild providers?
@@randalhill6283 I’ve been retired from the rat race four plus years. I don’t think OEM rebuilds are trouble free per my brother’s input. My son in law in Alabama recommends engines from NAPA. I think he said ATK but I don’t have experience with them
Just looking through these videos and me thinking man I wish he was local. Quick google search and your 6 minutes from my house! Small world.
So, a new piston, valve job, BG engine flush and...
SHIP IT!!!!!!!
You forgot JB WELD for the block....
David G That’s just a “ported block”
A little flex seal on the block should do then give it the krylon touch.
😂😂
When engines create their own crankcase ventilation systems. This may not be a bad reman, but a case of over-revving the engine.
The ECM will most likely prevent over reving
@@Obamaistoast2012 so much damage however. Usually, the pistons break from stretching-due to over-revving.
@@Obamaistoast2012
The ECM Can only prevent over rev with the rev limiter on the throttle side of the equation, the truck road speed driving the engine rpm thru the drivetrain on a ugly downhill in a lower gear pulling a trailer could take that rpm miles past the ECM limiter with your foot off the gas completely and brakes getting a bit toasty which is my guess. Or something like that
Used to work with a ford guy. He says 5.4 a good motor they just have a lot of problems. Lmao
@@marktiitto7616 Just like a Land Rover's a great vehicle, except it's a lemon.
2 yr jasper engine here barely got 100k miles with tons of issues the entire time it ran. timing changed 2/3 the life it had. crank was turned to the point I cant even get new replacement main bearings. yea I found out the bearings had been slipping and thats why my timing kept getting off
I just bought a reman Jasper 5.4, I’m pretty sure their warranty is 100k miles. Hopefully if anything happens they can replace. 🤞
That engine sounds fine just like a 1914 model T engine.
We fired Jasper and Reviva over a lot of blown engines and brought the process in house. We ended up having to hire a bunch of people but it worked in the end.
it's funny, i've always heard jasper does a good job on rebuilds. i've never messed with them and always opted to go with the used option of fix what i had. i'm cheap like that lol. it does make me worry though about quality of parts off the shelf. i know parts stores have to be somewhat picky on the parts they sell so there's some filtering going on there. otherwise they'd be selling the absolute cheapest garbage they can get and returns would would be through the roof. i'm not saying there's much but if a company is making parts that have a very high failure rate, they're gonna move on to the next guy. then even it's not uncommon to get bad parts..
That is why the shop I work for stays away for AutoZone....
They do great work
Put a jasper 5.4L in a customers F-150 about 3 months ago. Engine lasted 24hrs before it Grenaded on itself. They are quick to pay for warranty work though! Especially compared to LQK/Keystone. Powertrain products seems to be pretty decent. Rollers were just laying inside of the valve covers when we pulled the covers off. 24 hours later...
My 05 fx4 is in the shop now getting new phasers timing chain tensioners upgraded oil pump spark plugs coil packs, the list goes on lol ! I bought it with 70k in 2010 fast forward 11 yrs /100k later now it's in the shop 😂 !
Imagine that from your quality Ford product lol
My 05 f150 5.4 3v had over 244,000 miles on it. Never had to replace anything but the alt. I had to get rid of it because the frame was rotted out
@@shannonp922 it’s 17 years old...
My original 20 year old engine is still running. Only 125k. Just now needs an intake manifold. I couldn’t be happier with it.
I've had excellent luck with Jasper products in the past . My 2002 Explorer has both a Jasper engine and transmission . 247,000 miles on both . 4.0 SOHC engine , 5r55w trans (early build had w instead of r trans ) . Installed about ten years ago. Looks like things have changed at that company.
I hope your right I just bought one last week I didn't know about their history
@@garyscott9766 Did you look up the website? They started the entire industry back in the 1940's.
I just lost my 3V. This video fails to give me a warm and fuzzy. Every shop I talked to swears by Jasper.
@Dean Gullberry it's becuase they're the only place you can get a Ford motor besides picking the junkyard 🤷♂️
@@MadMetalShop powertrain products does them too... supposedly with a 5 year or million mile warranty....but I guess you'd hafta pay to ship their broken motor back
Wowwwwwww😯that's some carnage and it still managed to drive in the shop😎
Lucky me , my 2004 5.4 3v has been good to me.
I’m going through a warranty claim right now on a reman 5.4 3v from Autozone (Newtek). Engine is a year and a half old with about 40k miles and has a cracked head. From the first oil change, coolant has had to be added each time I’ve had the oil changed. I had that looked at but they couldn’t find a leak. The last time I had the oil changed, the tech who is a friend of mine said hey you’ve got an oil leak on the back side of the engine. Took it in to a different shop than where I had the engine installed and they found a crack in the rear of the drivers side head near the freeze plug. Said it looked like they got a little too aggressive putting the freeze plug in. Also said it was a bad reman job in general. We’ll see how well they stick behind their 3 year/100k warranty.
did Newtek sent you another engine?
@@crazeguy26 finally. About 3000 miles on it and it’s not running right.
Someone is going to need a whole lot of JB Weld! ROFL 🤣
All I can say is that I'm glad I own a 2002 5.4 Triton 2 valve
Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it!
Nice!
Lmfao!!!😂 Ok spicoli
Haha, Spicoli.
What's a television repairman ??? 😜
You can't fix this car Spicoli !!! 😲
Accesses the situation. "I can fix it." 😁
Turns out, he can't fix it..... 😱
Years ago, a friend of my little sister drifted her Honda into the curb. Uh, serious camber problem, about 30 degrees, both wheels.
What did she tell her friend? My brother has the ultimate set of tools.
We had a good laugh at that.
We were a Jasper sponsored shop...We installed many engines, transmissions and differentials...they even flew the shop owner to the factory.. I worked there for 12 yrs and started installing Jasper 3 yrs before I retired...no probs at the time I left.. this was 2016... They could be covered in warranty work by now for all I know...I was considering putting a Jasper trans in my Dakota...may rethink that.
So glad mine has the 4.6 2v. 250k and she runs like new.
I have 99 2 valve with 25400 on it runs great
My 08 GT has the 4.6 3v (pretty much the same as the 5.4 engines) but its very well maintained, I just changed out both the phasers and have new timing components lol. I'm at 212k and drive it hard every time
@@SangheiliSpecOp The 4.6 3v seems to hold up very well. Never heard of one failing on ExplorerForum.
@@alb12345672 yeah I think its a very capable engine if you maintain it well. Its modular and variants of it have been used in a lot if different types of vehicles. I have heard if taxis with over a million miles on their 4.6 engines lmao. The phaser design isn't perfect, but at the same time, its not at complex as the newer engines out there. I also realize how lucky I am when I look at other cars because their engine bay space is so limited, but the 05 to 09 GTs have so much room to work under the hood. I'm about to do my 2rd clutch job and I'm throwing in some harder bmr poly engine mounts and a ford aluminum driveshaft while I'm there this time
@@SangheiliSpecOp according to AAA the Ford 4.6 is the no. 1 engine for 300k plus.
WHOA! Everybody ease up on Jasper engines. Poor Jasper is out there building them all by himself!!!
are you sure this motor didn't come from the neutral drop guys 🤣🤣
What's it got stuntman!!!
Had an ATK engine on my 2006 f250 5.4 that lasted almost 3 years had about 10k on the rebuild. Lost oil pressure on a very cold winter day. One more month for my warranty to expire. Seems like some paint got pulled into the oil feed tube. Paint from what, who knows. The replacement engine i spent some money on Ford cam phasers, High volume melling oil pump and some other parts. my oil pressure is almost always at 60 to 80 psi starting out cold and steadys at 40 when warm. Seems to have more hp than the last crate engine, Im pretty sure its the oil feeding to make those phasers work right.
WOW! I have never seen an engine come apart like that!
It came apart and how at 5000 rpm
Man when you showed the valve covers vs the camshafts not the same, just to show you what these quick flush and go engines you get from jasper. Thats for sharing.
I'm just wondering how long he drove it when it first started making noise. It looks like it's been driven many miles after the problem started.
If it runs and drive why not keep driving it. Who wants a tow fee. Lol.
I had a Jasper 5.4 , 2 valve installed in my 2000 F-150 XLT Flareside, 4WD... the factory 5.4 lasted 170k, the Jasper lasted 70k until the plug popped out of the head a second time, and compression was lost in the #2 cylinder.
Not a fan of the sluggy 5.4 Triton, but absolutely LOVE the 5.0 Coyote that's in my 2016 F-150 King Ranch 4WD... Strongly considering having Ford install a Whipple.
My friend just replaced his 4.0 in his '06(?) Ranger because of the timing chain problem. He got a Ford re-manufactured engine and says it's almost as bad (sound) as the original one after only about 5K miles.
Does anyone rebuild engines right?
CAn anyone get quality parts anymore
Yep hard to do when the oem parts aren't made anymore, even manufacturer using chinese bearings and etc
Most engines are rebuilt by a 3rd party Rebuilder - even OEM. There is one in Dallas and one in Houston that I know of.
@@jeffdenig705 wow that's depressing
Its a ford, the engine is junk to begin with, how can you expect any rebuilder to have a good one, when the factory can't in the first place
Think about the guy who spends years blueprinting his engine making sure everything is perfect. His rebuilt engine will last longer than OEM. This engine build is the opposite of that guy.
Great video, Brian. I always thought Jasper engines were pretty good; until now. Our Jasper rep used to call on us all the time, wanting us to buy their engines. We didn't. Probably a good decision. Keep up the good work.
There was a time when Jasper engines were good products. They also came up with a good Remanufactured E4OD transmission for the big ford duallys. Ford couldn't come up with a solution. Jasper package was a trans , torque convertor , and a set of larger diameter cooling lines , trans to radiator.
ATK remans good Engines they have a 3yr unlimited mileage warranty
They also reimburse labor if the Engine would fail!!
@@ronniecox109 Jasper engines fired an employee for offensive speech. They don't stand for 1st Amendment rights.
Jasper rebuilt transmission I had on a Taurus didn't even make it 80k . . .
80k is a lot of miles for ANY Taurus transmission!! Especially the first 5 years of Taurus/Sable platform!!
@@brianstough5286,
I wonder why Ford has had so much trouble over so many years building reliable transmissions?
@@ArcoZakus trying to beat GM to the punch...? Why do you think they went to the overhead cam craze? GM "lured" them in with the Lotus ZR1 Vette - AND the Cadillac Northstar - trying to beat GM to the punch....
@@brianstough5286 I've seen 3 slipping at exactly 102k miles on their odometers. They were all early Tauruses w/Vulcan 3.0l engines. It's probably that a Taurus is to the larger size of what those transmissions can handle. Minivans are probably worse. Still in those days 50-75k miles was what to expect, most people got more. The earliest ones rusted out horribly fast as well the clock was ticking. Still the best of the big 3.
@@brianstough5286 The ZR-1's made 50% more power by breathing better that's why they did it. GM sucked at making them that's why they got out of that game. Lotus and Mercury Marine HAD to make the LT5's for them. The SHO DOHC 3.0l could keep up with a OHV 5.7l Vette, not the ZR-1 though. Sure Ford has made a few bad OHC engines the 5.4l 3v being one of them. The 5.4l 4v wasn't a bad one ended up in the Ford GT. 4.6 2v in millions of service cars and Mustangs, 4v Terminators. Then the Coyote/Voodoo/Roadrunner engines are all pretty damn awesome. Look back some of the best most memorable GM cars were OHC, DOHC at that. Beretta GTU, Calais 442, with the Quad 4, Z34 with the DOHC 3.4l.
It hurts me to see a well taken care of engine fail catastrophically. Like you said, no signs of neglect on the owners end.
Back in the 80's I put a jasper junk engine in customers car lasted 3 days came back knocking put in another jasper junk. 1 week started knocking I decided to pull pan. full of shaving from boring cly. got another jasper junk put it in see customer month later. He said it started knocking again. He said he sold the car. We had it more than him. He did not blame us.
Wow, I never knew that about Jasper engines.
When you were reaching around in the bottom of the oil pan, it looked like when they opened the safe from the Titanic after resurrecting it from the bottom of the ocean 🤣
I worked in their warranty group years ago. What a soul-sucking, God-awful place. When I hear "Jasper remanufactured engine," I run the other direction.
Sounds like you had personal issues with Jasper , would you care to elaborate on why Jasper is a horrible choice for a remanufactured engine ?
Name of few of your co-workers. I was in production at JET from 1997-2002
Just cut the 2 rear cylinders off and you have you a v6. I've found the best way to prevent 5.4 problems is to not own one in the first place
Just avoid anything ford f 150 from 04 to 10 and expedition/navigator 07 to 14. The 3.5 ecoboost is way better than the 5.4 Triton, timing chain and valve coking problems aside.
@@brentneahring2797 Except for turbos that crap out. The timing + oil pressure issue is the root cause of most of the 5.4L 3v problems. There are plenty of folks who made it past 300k miles on original parts, though.
@@SevenSixTwo2012 I do agree if a 5.4 3 valve maintained well can last a long time, but I am biased lol cause I own a Taurus SHO with the ecoboost, and the shop I go to on average has to do a timing job on a 5.4l at least once a week. I see a gen 11 truck outside and it always needs a new timing set. But I will say the shop also upgrades the oil pump at the same time.
@@brentneahring2797 Keeping in mind that the F150 is the best selling vehicle (not truck... vehicle!) in the US / North America for the last 30 years and that the 5.4L does indeed need a timing job half way through its' life cycle, it's perfectly normal to see a lot of these timing jobs around shops. There are more F150s out there than any other vehicle, by far... many still rock the 5.4L 3v.
@@SevenSixTwo2012 very true
My buddy had a Jasper reman trans put in his Jeep and 5th gear blew out in less than 30k miles.
I bought a 2008 F150 with a 4.6 that had a broken crankshaft at 115k. Still ran and drove fine. I rebuilt the engine myself, drove it for a month and sold it. Made a good profit.
The push rods on a Jasper for my 59 Bel Air were breaking immediately. Very brittle wimpy things. This was in 1987.
Coming up on 200k on our 2003 5.4 2v
Definitely starting to show its age. About to do the intake manifold replacement to cure the passenger side crossover leak, and what I believe is an air leak as well as Bank 1 started throwing a lean code and the fuel injector o-rings on that rail were replaced last year.
its amazing with all the shattered piston parts in two cylinders with the pick up tube full of parts and two holes on either side of the block... that's limp mode at its finest
im guessing a good flush of the cooling system helped as well with all that burn off in the exhaust system , good job on that repair
Learning about the 3v fords and the spark plug issues that went from 1997-2015 shook my faith in ford. Will buy GM from now on after owning fords for years
I made that mistake, going back to GM.. Never again. I buy used now. If I do get new, I'll buy a Toyota.
I suddenly have a craving for a
butterscotch milkshake…
my 5.4 just died last month had around 544,000 kms sometimes she would shake when it was hot out, she finally packed in one day just would not start just kept cranking.
JB weld the block throw a new piston and spring on it, it'll be fine...
Leave that cylinder empty. Worked on my 50 chev.
@@LuciFeric137 I saw that before on You Tube with 12cyl Jaguar engine 🤣🤣🤣. Now is a 11cyl Jaguar
Yup worked for my van engine
My 08 has 140,000 on it still original cam phasers and everything the only thing I had to replace was vct solenoids. But I’ve put 5w30 synthetic in it from day 1 and change it every 7,500 miles and it runs like a top no noises
I'm glad you let us hear the sound of it running....I'm still laughing
We had a new Jasper that was running rough. One of the guys pulled it apart and found it had 1 over bored piston in it.
TOTAL Carnage!! I am surprised it last as long as it did, being a jasper engine.
They do great work if you know how to install and break in properly.
The oil looks like chocolate milk. Save it now to use as a mosquito fogger! Lol
Did you ever find the missing piece of the valve? I don't know why but , my gut tells me that's where it all started.
Yep, sucked a valve, mayhem starts. It’s all downhill from there.
I have a 05 f150 with a Jasper rebuilt engine. I have over 100k on the Jasper and over 300k on the truck. Guess I got lucky.
5.4 are tough. Running with 2 holes in the block
5.4s are junk from day one
@@robflammia4716 3 valve, yes no argument there.. 2valve not so much they are solid engines. Plenty out there with 3-400k I'm driving one with 325k strong no problems.
@@josephf593 Some of my 5.4 3Valve delivery trucks have over 300k on them also. They've had a few accessories fail like starters, pullies, and alternators, but nothing to the engines except spark plug replacement. Arent as quiet as they used to be, but damn they've been thru it. So not all of them are junk.
5.4 3v in my truck has 193000 miles still going strong.
@@robflammia4716 mine had 274k before it went out. If not for my radiator blowing out and overheating the engine it eould still be running
Always entertaining when these come in. Oh well, money too be made thanks to Jasper.
When I started wrenching on cars in the 1970s, Jasper was a very respected name in engine/transmission remanufactures. I don't know what changed, but around 2000, the quality of their products went on a downward spiral fast! I would never recommend them to anyone.
My guess is that in an effort to remain competitive they started skipping steps and using the cheapest parts possible. Probably taking a it just has to make it past warranty approach, and fail in a way we can blame the customer if it doesn't.
Like if a bearing fails, was it out of spec to begin with, or did they not change the oil? We can guess which they'd go with.
I worked at JET from 1997-2002. If you were to look at our warranty numbers during this time period( we were made to) you would see the vast majority of warranty claims were for leaking gaskets, not catastrophic failures. Back then, any catastrophic failure was taken to R&D, disassembled and examined under a microscope to determine the cause of the failure.
@@stevehicks8944 Jasper engines fired an employee for offensive speech. They don't stand for 1st Amendment rights.
@@troymattingly3071 You are aware that employers have the right to set what is and what is not acceptable speech in the work place? What plant? What shift? What department?
@@stevehicks8944 Crawford county, first shift, Distribution.
I have had 3 engines,from them 2 eyes and a 427 dump truck ,all were good
She needs some of that special Scotty Kilmer Cat cleaner 😂😂😂😂
rev up your enginessss
Scotty would just say "buy a Toyota...you'll never ever buy another car for as long as you live"
Scotty says Ford trucks are better than even a Tundra! Sorry Scotty, my 2000 Sierra with 180k still runs like a top, motor never been touched! Give me GM any day!
@@elmerwilliamson1970 Well...I am a GM Guy from days past. My Tahoe has about half a million miles on it ('99)...but that pales in comparison to some of the guys I work with...over 1 Mil on some F-series...maintenance is something they just 'do'...sure they've had issues over that million, head gaskets, worn out rings, etc. Some of these guys are on the same block, with just a rebuild....same trans, just rebuilt...crazy stuff. I think it does come down to what are you doing, and are you taking care of it.
those rods and mains are the at the end of the oil pressure circuit . My advice to you guys that buy rebuilt short blocks, etc YOU have to take em apart and check everything, heck Ive found screwdrivers in the oil pan, those mass produced cast aluminum pistons, let go all the time at the wrist pin