I just upgraded a month ago from Mark III to IV. It might not be worth the money for people on a budget but if you're an enthusiast, it's definitely a fun upgrade to make. The touch screen is totally awesome. Very fast and very intuitive like I would never expect from a niche product like this. It's almost if not as much as responsive as an iPhone. I also wanted to have a GPS for many years but hated the fact that the external one uses the hot shoe. The wifi is also very worth it. I now peacefully sit on my sofa and presort my pictures while watching TV, pixel peeping on my iPad before I transfer the files to Lightroom. I've heard so many rant on the mark IV it's almost convinced me not to upgrade. BUT... it's still way better than the mark III AND and it's a Canon with an EF mount!!! You don't get that with a A7RII, do you?
6:29 - You CAN do it on 5DIII! Just not with AF-ON, but One-Shot\Servo switch could be assigned to DoF preview button (the one on the front, beside the lens). Pretty much the same convenience.
The mark 3 is amazing. The full frame is a must. But what separates it from lesser cameras is the great iso numbers. You can go really high on iso numbers, and get very little graininess. The fact that you can go high on iso and get great picture quality means you don’t need large aperatures to take low light photos; you only need large aperture lenses to have good bokeh now. Sure the mark3 doesn’t have an automatic focus for video, but with the high iso capabilities, just put the aperture of your lens to a high number, and everything will be in focus, with the auto iso increasing as needed to make e correct exposure setting. I do like he gps feature of the new mark 4, bc it will allow you to easily track where your photos were taken, and view them on a map, if viewing them on an iPad. But is t really worth the extra $1,000?-I don’t think so. And as for WiFi, it really doesn’t take much effort to transfer photos without WiFi. As for 4K video recording-besides the mark 4 having it, the crop factor is terrible, and I hear the file sizes make it unusable for non professionals, unless you have amazingly large hard drives. If I was on a budget, I’d get the mark 3. You won’t regret it. It takes amazing photos, is ergonomically amazing, and very easy to use. I hope this helped! But then again, I’m replying to your comment a year late. You must have already bought a camera. If you did, what did you buy?
Chris P thanks for the information, very helpful! I know I am very late but should I stick with the 5d mark iii or should I get the new 90d. My budget is around $1,000-$1,300. I want to invest on lenses because I think it’s more important.
@@davidg3664 a full frame for the price of a aps c size sensor is always a better option. in this case the 90d vs the mark 3 is really up to wether you're looking into video or photography. if its video then the 90d and if its photography then the mark 3.
+Marek Kunicki I completely agree, I rented the Mark IV for 3 days and shot NYFW and the images were brilliant using higher ISO's , I even tested 32000 and for online purposes they were surprisingly usable and most important the client was happy with all images they requested. Its a definite upgrade for images but I didn't test it enough to comment about the 4K yet.
The autofocus in video mode on the Mark IV is worth it for itself for anyone doing video, if you're going to compare mark iii to mark IV. The autofocus is soooooo handy for self filming situations especially when you don't have a landmark or object to set the focus upon and want to get a quick shot. Something that is even more difficult when you're shooting wide open.
Ive been shooting with the MKII for about 6 years now. Its been my workhorse. I honestly feel like upgrading to the MKIV makes sense for me, would be another reliable work camera that I could trust for the next few years
I like how they haven't changed the design. I went from a 5dmrk1 to a mrk3. I just picked the mrk3 up and I new exactly where the basic buttons and their functions were. I can see why they haven't changed the design its so you dont have to fiddle with all these new buttons. 5dmrk1 had that one for about six years, mrk3 for almost 5 years now. They have never let me down. Been shooting with them for private and work. Will sure be looking in to the mrk4 at the store. :)
smokey267 I agree.. I have the mark 3, and was envious when I saw the m4 showing 4K video... that was until I saw the file sizes were ridiculously high, and the crop factor is terrible. I do wish my m3 had gps so I can track where I took my photos, and I wish it had video autofocus, but other than that, I can’t see upgrading the camera. And with the high price differences, it would make the M4 a bad choice. I’m not sure if I would need the WiFi..I assume it makes it better to transfer photos, but direct connect of memory card to computer is very easy and extremely fast.
iam a wedding photographer. I switched from mark3 to 5dmk4. It is a fantastic tool. It offers nice slowmo, contimous focus in events like dance, sangeet. better dynamic range than mark 3
I've been shooting with the original 5D for a couple years now. It makes great photos but there are some limitations, especially in low light. Can't wait to upgrade to the mark iii finally!!
30.4 MP vs 22.4. processing power, wifi, nfc, gps, dual pixel raw, viewfinder 2, 4k, 1080 @ 60fps, hdr video, timelapse, auto focusing in video mode. just to name a few upgrades and you say it's not worth it. getting this camera you wouldn't have to upgrade for a very long time. it is definitely a worthy upgrade especially for those who want the best and not looking to upgrade for a long time. think of it as a long time investment.
well i was use to taking pictures only on my phone i never use the camera before so my uncle gave me his old camera a canon 400d 10.1 megapixel and i was using that and i learn the camera and i took some great shots. but then i realize my pictures wasn't looking sharp like the girl pictures who lived next door to me. i was using the tamron 18-200 lens that came with the camera and i notice in low light situations the camera didn't take a good picture and i had the iso at the max which was 1600. the camera don't record video and i notice all of this by using another camera that excels in everything that's what i meant by that. what i meant to say was i wanted a camera with a better auto focus and better in low light and can record video when i want to do that. a couple of people told me to go full frame and look at the canon 5d mark 3 and the canon 6d mark 2 i just want to choose between the ywo and call it a day lol.
I think I would want the Canon 5D Mk IV since I need the upgrade from my Canon 40D. I shoot interiors, but I'm starting to shoot more events so I would also like to learn how to shoot videos, too (will get both video guides when I'm upgrading).
I have a 5D Mk II - Amazed by the Mk IV so far. There are so many features that make it an incredible upgrade. The touch screen alone adds immediate value - Pinch zoom, pick focus area, delete confirm. GPS, WiFi - adjust settings/taking pics through my cell phone will be a big benefit to my photography needs. The MK III isn't even on the radar I use my cameras for photos 99% of the time. Video is nice, but not a defining reason for making the purchase. If video is 70% of the reason you're buying a camera, there are much better DSLR's than even the MK III.
Thanks for the video! Just saw I can get a factory refurb 5D IV for $1399 and considering upgrading from my 10 year old 70D. Looks like I'm gonna be re-learning my camera again. 🙂
Hey Jared!! Hope you well. The canon 5d3 can in actual fact do the single focus to af servo option, but the button that would be remapped would be the aperture button for the 5dmk3👍🏻
As a hobbyist, I still love my 5dII but it won't last forever so an upgrade is somewhere in my future. I shoot time lapse, landscape and portraits so a good all around camera would be nice. Video is fun to play with but not a requirement. I'm thinking a 5dsr would be a good choice.
Reference 6mins 40secs... You can remap the DOF preview button on front of camera on the 5Dmkiii to change focus option between alservo and oneshot focus. I have it set so focus is normally in oneshot and when i hold down the DOF preview button it will select alservo mode for as long as its held down.
Im a Photographer in Philadelphia... i was using the 6D form2 years and upgraded to the 5D IV. I shot a Wedding with the IV the next day and it was almost like day and night... the handling and performance, that is. It was so fun and easy to shoot with, that i ran out of space on my sd card. first time i ever did that. P.S. I would love to meet you one day... since youre here in the same city. Youre like a superstar but I havent run into you yet. Thanks for the video. Peace.
Why not mentioning Magic Lantern that have a timelapse option, many other tools and of course 24p raw video (looks like the mark iv will not increase the writing capabilities). You have shirt that says "I shoot raw". the exsitance of Magic Lantern software was missing here...
I bought the Mark iii in December and now I'm looking forward to upgrade to 4K. When I saw that canon released Mark IV, my brain froze for a second. It's was the same feeling when you get a cook gadget but a week later, a better version is released and you just want to turn back time. Thank god, 5D Mark IV didn't change that much and I can move on to a GH4 or just move to a RED and still get to use the Mark III for photos and some cool videos. I hate that canon won't enable this DSLRs to shoot RAW just so you spend much more money for another one who does. Great review, man.
I'm retired and I shoot all the time. I have 2 5D Mark III's and I was thinking of going with the Mark IV but I think I'll stay with what I have. I have a ton of "L" glass too. I'm not making money, only on a rare occasions. There's also the raw incompatibility with my CS6 and Lightroom 6.7 versions. That's a no go because I'd have to go with CC's then. Great video, it helped me decide.
when I upgraded from 5D2 to 5D3 it was worth it (although I still shoot with the mk2 sometimes), but this upgrade is not worth the price difference IMHO, at least not for the kind of pictures I take (I rarely shoot vid). The 5D3 does everything I expect it to do and hasn't let me down (yet), so I'll wait it out until something new comes along worthy of my hard earned cash.
I'm going to keep my 5D III, it is really a working-horse, lovely piece of equipment! In my opinion the 5D IV, is not worth the swop if you already own a 5D III, use some money on good glass instead👌
The MK IV, but I have already bought the 5DsR. I have seen the 5D IV taking video's, and one thing what is very positive, it doesn't easily overheat. And the images (jpeg) are really good what you take from the 4K stream. And that is one of the reasons why they didn't compress the film stream, JPeG is already compressed. The only drawback is the file size. But he, a single picture of the Hasselblad H5D can be as big as 1.2Gb. In comparison with that, the film files are not that big. But when our friends are ready with the adjustments of Magic Lantern, you shoot RAW film with this camera and you decide if you want to have 4K or not. And how many camera's can shoot film in RAW! The Dual Pixel is as good as on the 80D, it works flawless, no other DSLR is that smooth with focusing in film. What you already noticed is the older card slots, but you can use the newer cards and you notice really a big difference. I have asked my friends @ Canon Netherlands for some comments and they said that the card slot is in fact fast enough.
I wouldn't upgrade from the 5dmkIII for photography, but if I was buying from scratch I'd go for the 5dmkIV Same as the 1Dx and 1DxmkII, I wouldn't upgrade, but from scratch I'd go for the latest version.
Another great video Jared. Did you know that in the UK where I live, the 5D MK4 costs £3599?!! It's actually cheaper for me to fly to New York on British Airways (£390 return) and by the MK4 from B&H in Manhattan. I would be saving my self £500. I think I've just talked my self into a mini break to the USA 👍🏼
In March, moved to full frame. Bought Canon glass and adapted it to Sony a7rii anticipating using the 5D mark iv as a primary and the Sony as a backup/video camera. Now, probably going to buy the 5D mark iii and two or three e-mount primes. Why? The 5D was going to be primarily for stills. The card tech and buffer is what gets me. I don't need a huge buffer, but my Sony blows the Canon away with resolution and dynamic range so I was looking for the 5D to have speed. At this price, it shouldn't even be a question. Cards are not that expensive when dealing with a $3,500 body. The mark iii has the same card tech, is within splitting hairs with autofocus, and has a bigger buffer frame count. I can deal with everything else and I'm doing it so I can wait and see what Canon does next. If they continue on the current path, I may go Nikon and I know what it would cost. Don't think it's happening? I watched a guy drop around $8K in my local shop while I was comparing the mark iii and mark iv. He was investing in the Nikon D810.
my free advise for people who currently own cropped censor :-if you are using cropped censor and want to upgrade to full frame then wait for another 6-7 months for price of 5d mark 3 to fall further and upgrade to 5d mark 3. mark 4 has nothing exciting. no point jumping to 5d mark 4. instead wait for few months and invest in better lenses.if you already have 5d mark 3 then shut up and keep shooting with 5d mark 3. you will be a fool to upgrade to 5d mark 4. it seems canon has just launched 5d mark 4 for heck of it3-4 years after 5dmark 3 and still both cameras look the same. it would have been better if they could have changed some of its design. its funny that cropped censor like 80d has a articulating screen but the full frame version of canon does not have this feature.. I have no clue what has canon been thinking while designing 5d mark 4. Fuji's and sony are constantly coming up with top features but canon is still stuck to ali baba's time..
"its funny that cropped censor like 80d has a articulating screen but the full frame version of canon does not have this feature" pro bodies need to be rugged & weather sealed the 80D is a cheaper plastic camera. Got nothing to do with the size of the sensor!
Asking you since you seem to have some good advice - looking to move to full frame, but looking at the new 80D and Mark III. 80D is cropped but has more MP + the articulating screen is beyond helpful. Does the overall MP on the 80D makeup for the lost information that I'd get on the full frame on the Mark III?
I have two 5D M3's - I bought my last one when B&H dropped the price to $2k before discontinuing them for good. Yes it's 6 year old camera, but the photo and video quality out of it is still very respectable, and it's a proven workhorse. The 5D M3 was a HUGE improvement over the 5D M2. Wish I could say the same for the M4 - yes, I like several updates like the dual pixel autofocus and touchscreen on the M4 and other refinements. But waiting 4 years for this successor that has no articulating screen, and a horrible codec on it's CROPPED 4K video - give me a break! Too little too late. Still love canon glass, but for 4K video I guess I'll have to mount them on a C300 M2-- please Canon, pay attention to what Sony and Panasonic are doing and get your technology up to date!
I no joke gasped when you brought up the dual pixel raw technology. I have been sitting comfortably with my 5d mark ii for years (until recently as i've been filming more) and am way behind the game on keeping up with new tech. I had no clue that they were working on that kind of technology. Holy shit
I made a conscious decision and bought a used 5DmkIII when I upgraded from a 60D last August. The mkIII is still a splendid DSLR, maybe legendary in some respects. Ofcourse the jump from a 60D was very noticeable, as a still shooter I don't find myself wanting a mkIV with the price tag it has.
Thanks Jared, I just purchased the 5DIII last evening, it is an upgrade as I wanted to step up to full frame; I don't shoot video so the MK III will be perfect for me...plus the MK IV $3499 price tag is too high for minimum upgrades...I have WiFi on my 7ODs, Great post!!
I don't know, I shoot landscapes mostly. It would be nice to have better autofocus than my 6D for the occasional cycling event or other fast moving subject but I don't absolutely need it. The 5Dsr and D810 seem rather attractive to me.
This guy said you can't switch the af from servo to one shot on the mark 3, which is not true technically because you can customise the buttons in the menu and mine is set up to switch af using the depth preview button up front. It's much more realistic to have this at the front anyway as I can keep my eye on the viewfinder as I shoot and switch
5D Mark iii is rocking it for me right now. Though, I wouldn't mind using the 5D mark iv for just photography, and switch to my Mark iii for just video.
Since I do mostly landscapes, I'll stick with my 5DMk3. I didn't see any revolutionary changes over the mk3 that would be worth the money to upgrade. It looks like they were simply parsing around the edges to try and keep up with the Sony cameras.
I already have the Mark 3 and not being a pro plus the fact you can never keep up with changes i'm gonna stay with what i have. I have had it since 2013 and am very happy with it
Sony is the only company that puts seemingly every single bit of tech in every camera they put out but it has only been like that for a couple of years. And to be honest, sony cameras are a nightmare to use for professional photography. For some reason and I cannot for the life of me understand why, but the internet seems to think that Canon owes them some sort of super camera. They want every single thing packed into 1 camera.
Mirrorless is worthless for high speed and event still photography. I am not talking about Video, which to be honest, the Sony a7sii is incredible at for the value.
i disagree that this 5Dm4 is a worthwhile upgrade for current mk3 users. the feature set is to similar, this should be for new cannon shooters, crop to full framers, and or full replacements/ backups. i say if you have mk3 wait for mk4 price drops
Have you used the camera? A blanket statement like that deserves some background, what kinds of photographers? I am shooting a wedding next week and you can bet your house that I would much rather have the 5f4 than the 3. Why on earth why would I pass up on an extra stop of clean DR and noise control?
+Jared Polin i just have a hard time believing a true cost benefit analysis for the minor updates wouldnt suggest an upgrade. if you dont plan on editing much then maybe the new built in wifi/ NFC can save you some time, but as far as producing images with a discernable difference in quality i would say no way. this is why im saying the camer is purchase is better for those moving from a mk2 or similar or looking to move into full frame for wide angle use.
+Michael Andrew you need for 1 extra stop of DR may be more desireable than most. but in my opinion the act of shelling out $3500 to get images that are 98% the same as those you can create on the mrk 3 with little to no work flow improvement seems wasteful. just my 2 cents
I've been waiting for a review like this to come out for the last few weeks - so let me start by saying thank you. There seems to be this preoccupation with saying that Canon didn't catch up to industry leaders like the A7r II or the D810 in terms of dynamic range or resolution. Secondly, the current reviews out there (I won't mention who) have this tendency to mark features such as video crop or the limitations of Dual-pixel raw as deal breakers for those shopping around. For myself, I am astrophotographer who has enjoyed the 70D, 5D Mark III but was looking for something to enter the full frame market for canon that would improve on shadow, and low light noise that was an ongoing issue that had to be addressed in post with my 5D Mark III and 70D. You honestly, yet critically discussed what this camera can do and what it should have done better while not throwing out the baby with the bathwater. For that, I tip my hat to you Jared. Cheers man
I know a couple of canon landscape photographers who waited for the mk4. and a studio shooter who is making the most of the mk3 price drop. maybe the new sensor tech is a factor with the landscape guys.
5D mk IV is a well-rounded & truly amazing camera ... if it came out 2 years ago. At this point, it's only worth an upgrade if you're heavily invested in Canon glass & don't like the performance of adapters onto a Sony camera. Nikon FF has IMHO the best selection of FF DSLR cameras. For mirrorless, go Sony. They're lens selection is finally being expanded & will likely have a more complete line-up by the next year or so.
I have a few reasons why I'm moving away from Canon. I'm a hybrid shooter, need to be able to switch from photo to video and back to photo quickly with good features for both. Canon adding 4K is funny to me without putting in their C-Log and some video features like while-filming zebras and peaking (not sure if it has histogram while filming as well, but in case that's missing, it's missing!) Not to say the 4K is useless, it's useful, but limited, where other cheaper cameras have 4K without these limitations. I worked with the mkiii for 3 years and the quality is amazing in both video and photo. BUT, that was 4 years ago, and the mkiv did not mature 4 years I feel, if you know what I mean.
I'm not a full time pro, but I picked up a new 5D Mk iii a couple months back for around the price of the refurbished and I love it. I mainly use it for stills and it does a fine job. If I want to shoot 4K video I just use my GH4. :)
Anybody can read off some specs and "compare" any two cameras. Give us insights and real world performance tests to see the difference, that's be a real comparison.
sina wada... I think you better if with a 5d mark 3 ... yeah like frodude said if you know what you doing any camera will be good but also depends on what is you need the camera to do best... thats why frodude has the best of the best... he is already using it
I've been shooting with my 5D Mark III for the last few years. Really Great in low light. I shoot alot of weddings, Portfolios, and different functions I don't really do too much video. After listening to this review and seeing it some pics, Not really worth the Upgrade for me at this time especially with the older card format still being used on it. Thanks Jared.
I think u can assign the DoF preview button to act as a switch bw af servo and single in the 5d3.. But yes adding the option to assign the back button helps :)
My 70D has an articulated touchscreen which is extremely practical. And it has an inbuilt flash - which I don't use THAT often, but it IS awfully nice in some situations. These cameras don't have any of this, so I'm afraid none of them are for me.
As much as you bashed the Lytro, the new disk pixel Raw has the potential to increase the number of keepers for subjects in motion by an order of magnitude
I mostly shoot photos so not much interested in video modes. I am Buying a used 5dm3. With 17-40 f4, 24-105 f4, 70-200 f2.8, 50 f1.8 STM, 85 1.8. I found all used. I am upgrading from the 70d as of focus issues. I seriously invested in it thinking it will last with me for a long time. But all the Canon apsc bodies with dual pixel af are having this issues. It better to move up.
If I was deciding to get a full frame DSLR for the 1st time; for about the same price range, I think the D810 would be better value then then both 5D cameras.
curious what Magic Lantern will 'hack' out of the mkIV :) the RAW out of the 5DmkIII is absolutely stunning... (and big, and cumbersome, but... now with the current compression ,... the filesize is big anyway ) ...
Question: Without a focus assist light built into the camera (mark III or mark IV), and without being able to use the Canon speed light on the hot shoe b/c you need to use the hot shoe for the Profoto Air Remote to fire the B1 Kit, should I be worried that this camera may fail to achieve auto focus in dynamic low light conditions, such as a wedding reception venue.?
I got my new refurb D5 Mk III for $1899 from the Canon store on 12/23. They had extra discounts for a week. Upgrading from my trusty 5D. The Mk IV is just not worth the extra price to me. I was fine with the 5D but wanted a better AF system which is the ONLY weak point of the 5D to me. I wish Canon would make a 5D with the AF system of the Mk IV and leave the video function entirely out of the cam to reduce price. That would be the optimal cam for me!!
I think your overall conclusion makes sense - it's worth upgrading from the mk iii if your income depends on the photos you produce, but if you're an amateur with a low or average income (like me) then it probably isn't worth it. Also, I note that the USA RRP in USD is less than what the Canon store is selling it for in GBP. This means that the mk iv costs just shy of US$5000 if you buy it in the UK through the official store! I'm not planning on upgrading right now, but I think when I do it will be to the mk 3 as it seems better value for money. However, my 600D still has plenty left to give if I treat it to some nice glass ;-)
I will end up getting the Mark 4 later - once the upgrade to Photoshop and Lightroom has been completed. Hopefully the price will drop also., The specs overall on the Mark IV suit my Photographic style and goals. I don't know enough about video but it's probablt good enough for me. I shoot RAW and mostly manual.
I sold my 5D-III in July. The price is a bit higher than I'd like at the moment so considering gettin the 80D in the meantime. How much better is the 30MP sensor than 24MP sensor in the 80D? Would need low light performance from time to time...
Honestly I would love to have anything good. but I can't complain. I recently went from a Canon Powershot sx530 hs to a Canon Rebel T5. and I'm loving that camera. one day in the future if i can save up enough I would love to get a 7d mark ii. but that will all come in time. For Right now I'm just out shooting anything and everything I can just to practice at getting better.
I know how you feel. Started out with canon eos 1000 loved it until I ran it over with my car. Then was looking for a new camera, came on youtube to look at some reviews. The nikon and sony users thought their cameras were the best. But after watching videos and reading comments I found that sony had heating problems and nikon oil spots. Myy 1000 had no hardware problems just dust on sensor which was a easy fix. So stuck with canon now own 1300D and 80D both I love. Just want a camera you can shoot anytime anywhere and know it will work. Don't see anything in other systems that will make leave canon, especaily now I have more canon glass. Happy shooting.
yeah I'm looking for glass now. I have the 18-35mm and the 75-300mm but looking at the 50mm 1.8 and but need some suggestion on glass for a person on a budget
James Sanders I'm also on a budget but am patient and disciplined I bought a 24-70 and 70-200 which took me three years to save up. If I could do it again I think I would go tamron or sigma, lots of savings. The tamron 70-300 is a good cheap lens I hear, it has image stablization Which the canon 75-300 doesn't at least on mine.
James Sanders Mine came as kit with EOS 1000 I think thats t3 in the states not sure. But tamron or sigma recommend on a budget. I'm buying one macro and the tamron 150-300mm 5.6 to go with my 11-24, 24-70 and 70-200 all at f4 then I'll be satisfied I've covered most bases. when finally done it would've taken ten years.
I just upgraded a month ago from Mark III to IV. It might not be worth the money for people on a budget but if you're an enthusiast, it's definitely a fun upgrade to make. The touch screen is totally awesome. Very fast and very intuitive like I would never expect from a niche product like this. It's almost if not as much as responsive as an iPhone. I also wanted to have a GPS for many years but hated the fact that the external one uses the hot shoe. The wifi is also very worth it. I now peacefully sit on my sofa and presort my pictures while watching TV, pixel peeping on my iPad before I transfer the files to Lightroom. I've heard so many rant on the mark IV it's almost convinced me not to upgrade. BUT... it's still way better than the mark III AND and it's a Canon with an EF mount!!! You don't get that with a A7RII, do you?
I'm not using my camera (5dIII) for video at all, I just wanted a camera to take pictures (not videos) so sticking with my 5DIII for now :-)
6:29 - You CAN do it on 5DIII! Just not with AF-ON, but One-Shot\Servo switch could be assigned to DoF preview button (the one on the front, beside the lens). Pretty much the same convenience.
I have to decide Buy my 1st profesional camara. I think that Canon 5 D Mark iii will be good start. Thank you
The mark 3 is amazing. The full frame is a must. But what separates it from lesser cameras is the great iso numbers. You can go really high on iso numbers, and get very little graininess. The fact that you can go high on iso and get great picture quality means you don’t need large aperatures to take low light photos; you only need large aperture lenses to have good bokeh now.
Sure the mark3 doesn’t have an automatic focus for video, but with the high iso capabilities, just put the aperture of your lens to a high number, and everything will be in focus, with the auto iso increasing as needed to make e correct exposure setting.
I do like he gps feature of the new mark 4, bc it will allow you to easily track where your photos were taken, and view them on a map, if viewing them on an iPad. But is t really worth the extra $1,000?-I don’t think so. And as for WiFi, it really doesn’t take much effort to transfer photos without WiFi.
As for 4K video recording-besides the mark 4 having it, the crop factor is terrible, and I hear the file sizes make it unusable for non professionals, unless you have amazingly large hard drives.
If I was on a budget, I’d get the mark 3. You won’t regret it. It takes amazing photos, is ergonomically amazing, and very easy to use.
I hope this helped! But then again, I’m replying to your comment a year late. You must have already bought a camera. If you did, what did you buy?
Chris P thanks for the information, very helpful! I know I am very late but should I stick with the 5d mark iii or should I get the new 90d. My budget is around $1,000-$1,300. I want to invest on lenses because I think it’s more important.
@@davidg3664 a full frame for the price of a aps c size sensor is always a better option. in this case the 90d vs the mark 3 is really up to wether you're looking into video or photography. if its video then the 90d and if its photography then the mark 3.
Just got an used 5d mk iii. Im pretty happy with it, dont bother it being a bit old if I can buy if for less than 50% of mk IVs price
Sticking with my 5D Mark III... Not enough here worth upgrading really. Especially with 5 grand price tag in Australia...
+c0pyimitati0n lmao good one
+Marek Kunicki I completely agree, I rented the Mark IV for 3 days and shot NYFW and the images were brilliant using higher ISO's , I even tested 32000 and for online purposes they were surprisingly usable and most important the client was happy with all images they requested. Its a definite upgrade for images but I didn't test it enough to comment about the 4K yet.
Marek Kunicki
+Marek Kunicki agreed. I just bought mines. 👌
+Marek Kunicki agreed. I just bought mines. 👌
The autofocus in video mode on the Mark IV is worth it for itself for anyone doing video, if you're going to compare mark iii to mark IV. The autofocus is soooooo handy for self filming situations especially when you don't have a landmark or object to set the focus upon and want to get a quick shot. Something that is even more difficult when you're shooting wide open.
Ive been shooting with the MKII for about 6 years now. Its been my workhorse. I honestly feel like upgrading to the MKIV makes sense for me, would be another reliable work camera that I could trust for the next few years
Mark IV it is.
Upgrading from a 70D
I like how they haven't changed the design. I went from a 5dmrk1 to a mrk3. I just picked the mrk3 up and I new exactly where the basic buttons and their functions were. I can see why they haven't changed the design its so you dont have to fiddle with all these new buttons. 5dmrk1 had that one for about six years, mrk3 for almost 5 years now. They have never let me down. Been shooting with them for private and work. Will sure be looking in to the mrk4 at the store. :)
Man the MK 4 is making the MK 3 look pretty good especially when you consider the age and price differences.
smokey267 I agree.. I have the mark 3, and was envious when I saw the m4 showing 4K video... that was until I saw the file sizes were ridiculously high, and the crop factor is terrible. I do wish my m3 had gps so I can track where I took my photos, and I wish it had video autofocus, but other than that, I can’t see upgrading the camera. And with the high price differences, it would make the M4 a bad choice. I’m not sure if I would need the WiFi..I assume it makes it better to transfer photos, but direct connect of memory card to computer is very easy and extremely fast.
Chris P i heard mk 3 shoots 4k now. is that true. is that newer release or just a software update?
iam a wedding photographer. I switched from mark3 to 5dmk4. It is a fantastic tool. It offers nice slowmo, contimous focus in events like dance, sangeet. better dynamic range than mark 3
do you use 4k? and how does it freeze your computer when you edit due to the large size?
What about photography I'm interested in photography. Would you go with 6d ii or Mark iv
I've been shooting with the original 5D for a couple years now. It makes great photos but there are some limitations, especially in low light. Can't wait to upgrade to the mark iii finally!!
30.4 MP vs 22.4. processing power, wifi, nfc, gps, dual pixel raw, viewfinder 2, 4k, 1080 @ 60fps, hdr video, timelapse, auto focusing in video mode. just to name a few upgrades and you say it's not worth it. getting this camera you wouldn't have to upgrade for a very long time. it is definitely a worthy upgrade especially for those who want the best and not looking to upgrade for a long time. think of it as a long time investment.
well i was use to taking pictures only on my phone i never use the camera before so my uncle gave me his old camera a canon 400d 10.1 megapixel and i was using that and i learn the camera and i took some great shots. but then i realize my pictures wasn't looking sharp like the girl pictures who lived next door to me. i was using the tamron 18-200 lens that came with the camera and i notice in low light situations the camera didn't take a good picture and i had the iso at the max which was 1600. the camera don't record video and i notice all of this by using another camera that excels in everything that's what i meant by that. what i meant to say was i wanted a camera with a better auto focus and better in low light and can record video when i want to do that. a couple of people told me to go full frame and look at the canon 5d mark 3 and the canon 6d mark 2 i just want to choose between the ywo and call it a day lol.
I think I would want the Canon 5D Mk IV since I need the upgrade from my Canon 40D. I shoot interiors, but I'm starting to shoot more events so I would also like to learn how to shoot videos, too (will get both video guides when I'm upgrading).
I have a 5D Mk II - Amazed by the Mk IV so far. There are so many features that make it an incredible upgrade. The touch screen alone adds immediate value - Pinch zoom, pick focus area, delete confirm. GPS, WiFi - adjust settings/taking pics through my cell phone will be a big benefit to my photography needs. The MK III isn't even on the radar
I use my cameras for photos 99% of the time. Video is nice, but not a defining reason for making the purchase. If video is 70% of the reason you're buying a camera, there are much better DSLR's than even the MK III.
Thanks for the video! Just saw I can get a factory refurb 5D IV for $1399 and considering upgrading from my 10 year old 70D. Looks like I'm gonna be re-learning my camera again. 🙂
Hey Jared!! Hope you well. The canon 5d3 can in actual fact do the single focus to af servo option, but the button that would be remapped would be the aperture button for the 5dmk3👍🏻
As a hobbyist, I still love my 5dII but it won't last forever so an upgrade is somewhere in my future. I shoot time lapse, landscape and portraits so a good all around camera would be nice. Video is fun to play with but not a requirement. I'm thinking a 5dsr would be a good choice.
Reference 6mins 40secs... You can remap the DOF preview button on front of camera on the 5Dmkiii to change focus option between alservo and oneshot focus. I have it set so focus is normally in oneshot and when i hold down the DOF preview button it will select alservo mode for as long as its held down.
Im a Photographer in Philadelphia... i was using the 6D form2 years and upgraded to the 5D IV. I shot a Wedding with the IV the next day and it was almost like day and night... the handling and performance, that is. It was so fun and easy to shoot with, that i ran out of space on my sd card. first time i ever did that.
P.S. I would love to meet you one day... since youre here in the same city. Youre like a superstar but I havent run into you yet. Thanks for the video. Peace.
No one is better than you when it comes to good honest information!
Thanks for your feedback Jared.
Why not mentioning Magic Lantern that have a timelapse option, many other tools and of course 24p raw video (looks like the mark iv will not increase the writing capabilities).
You have shirt that says "I shoot raw".
the exsitance of Magic Lantern software was missing here...
STOP YELLING AT ME PLEASE! IT'S KIND OF ANNOYING. BUT THANKS FOR THE VIDEO!
I bought the Mark iii in December and now I'm looking forward to upgrade to 4K.
When I saw that canon released Mark IV, my brain froze for a second. It's was the same feeling when you get a cook gadget but a week later, a better version is released and you just want to turn back time.
Thank god, 5D Mark IV didn't change that much and I can move on to a GH4 or just move to a RED and still get to use the Mark III for photos and some cool videos.
I hate that canon won't enable this DSLRs to shoot RAW just so you spend much more money for another one who does.
Great review, man.
I'm retired and I shoot all the time. I have 2 5D Mark III's and I was thinking of going with the Mark IV but I think I'll stay with what I have. I have a ton of "L" glass too. I'm not making money, only on a rare occasions. There's also the raw incompatibility with my CS6 and Lightroom 6.7 versions. That's a no go because I'd have to go with CC's then. Great video, it helped me decide.
when I upgraded from 5D2 to 5D3 it was worth it (although I still shoot with the mk2 sometimes), but this upgrade is not worth the price difference IMHO, at least not for the kind of pictures I take (I rarely shoot vid). The 5D3 does everything I expect it to do and hasn't let me down (yet), so I'll wait it out until something new comes along worthy of my hard earned cash.
I upgraded from the Mark ll to the lV, and that is quite a difference, especially now that a refurbished M lV can be had for $2,500.
I'm going to keep my 5D III, it is really a working-horse, lovely piece of equipment! In my opinion the 5D IV, is not worth the swop if you already own a 5D III, use some money on good glass instead👌
Fuji ? Nikon? Switch now or get jobbed again in 4yrs sent back my mark Iv..... Staying with the mkIII for now...
The MK IV, but I have already bought the 5DsR.
I have seen the 5D IV taking video's, and one thing what is very positive, it doesn't easily overheat. And the images (jpeg) are really good what you take from the 4K stream. And that is one of the reasons why they didn't compress the film stream, JPeG is already compressed. The only drawback is the file size. But he, a single picture of the Hasselblad H5D can be as big as 1.2Gb. In comparison with that, the film files are not that big.
But when our friends are ready with the adjustments of Magic Lantern, you shoot RAW film with this camera and you decide if you want to have 4K or not. And how many camera's can shoot film in RAW!
The Dual Pixel is as good as on the 80D, it works flawless, no other DSLR is that smooth with focusing in film.
What you already noticed is the older card slots, but you can use the newer cards and you notice really a big difference. I have asked my friends @ Canon Netherlands for some comments and they said that the card slot is in fact fast enough.
I wouldn't upgrade from the 5dmkIII for photography, but if I was buying from scratch I'd go for the 5dmkIV
Same as the 1Dx and 1DxmkII, I wouldn't upgrade, but from scratch I'd go for the latest version.
I've a MK III that I've had from new and am normally an early adopter - I think I'll go the the IV - Looking forward t the full review
I never looked at your subscriber count before but looking at it now makes me feel you deserve far more
I learn so much from you . Hope you get to 1million soon
Another great video Jared. Did you know that in the UK where I live, the 5D MK4 costs £3599?!! It's actually cheaper for me to fly to New York on British Airways (£390 return) and by the MK4 from B&H in Manhattan. I would be saving my self £500. I think I've just talked my self into a mini break to the USA 👍🏼
So don't be surprised when they add sales tax to the quoted US price and then customs charge you duty when you bring it back to the UK.
+Calvin Chann I'm not sure I'll be making it common knowledge that the camera around my neck is new.
I'm a Brit working in HK and was quoted the equivalent of £2500 for the 5D MK4 and £1500 for the 5D MK3. I hope it's legit...
sugarcane1984 I doubt it
or you can just buy it from hongkong for £2331 that's with tax and import charges included
The Mark III is still my dream camera, thanks for the update Jared.
Staying with 5Diii because it has paid for itself many times over, and I have better video options. If it were less $ I’d upgrade.
In March, moved to full frame. Bought Canon glass and adapted it to Sony a7rii anticipating using the 5D mark iv as a primary and the Sony as a backup/video camera. Now, probably going to buy the 5D mark iii and two or three e-mount primes. Why? The 5D was going to be primarily for stills. The card tech and buffer is what gets me. I don't need a huge buffer, but my Sony blows the Canon away with resolution and dynamic range so I was looking for the 5D to have speed. At this price, it shouldn't even be a question. Cards are not that expensive when dealing with a $3,500 body. The mark iii has the same card tech, is within splitting hairs with autofocus, and has a bigger buffer frame count. I can deal with everything else and I'm doing it so I can wait and see what Canon does next. If they continue on the current path, I may go Nikon and I know what it would cost. Don't think it's happening? I watched a guy drop around $8K in my local shop while I was comparing the mark iii and mark iv. He was investing in the Nikon D810.
my free advise for people who currently own cropped censor :-if you are using cropped censor and want to upgrade to full frame then wait for another 6-7 months for price of 5d mark 3 to fall further and upgrade to 5d mark 3. mark 4 has nothing exciting. no point jumping to 5d mark 4. instead wait for few months and invest in better lenses.if you already have 5d mark 3 then shut up and keep shooting with 5d mark 3. you will be a fool to upgrade to 5d mark 4. it seems canon has just launched 5d mark 4 for heck of it3-4 years after 5dmark 3 and still both cameras look the same. it would have been better if they could have changed some of its design. its funny that cropped censor like 80d has a articulating screen but the full frame version of canon does not have this feature.. I have no clue what has canon been thinking while designing 5d mark 4. Fuji's and sony are constantly coming up with top features but canon is still stuck to ali baba's time..
O think mk iv is just the hook to fool people who can't afford it into buy the 6d mk ii when it will be out...
"its funny that cropped censor like 80d has a articulating screen but the full frame version of canon does not have this feature" pro bodies need to be rugged & weather sealed the 80D is a cheaper plastic camera. Got nothing to do with the size of the sensor!
MrKdr500 I don't see any reason why that screen cannot be provided ..
Asking you since you seem to have some good advice - looking to move to full frame, but looking at the new 80D and Mark III. 80D is cropped but has more MP + the articulating screen is beyond helpful. Does the overall MP on the 80D makeup for the lost information that I'd get on the full frame on the Mark III?
Yes! Please keep complaining about the specs of the Mark IV, I keep getting higher offers for my inferior Mark III!
I have two 5D M3's - I bought my last one when B&H dropped the price to $2k before discontinuing them for good. Yes it's 6 year old camera, but the photo and video quality out of it is still very respectable, and it's a proven workhorse. The 5D M3 was a HUGE improvement over the 5D M2. Wish I could say the same for the M4 - yes, I like several updates like the dual pixel autofocus and touchscreen on the M4 and other refinements. But waiting 4 years for this successor that has no articulating screen, and a horrible codec on it's CROPPED 4K video - give me a break! Too little too late. Still love canon glass, but for 4K video I guess I'll have to mount them on a C300 M2-- please Canon, pay attention to what Sony and Panasonic are doing and get your technology up to date!
I no joke gasped when you brought up the dual pixel raw technology. I have been sitting comfortably with my 5d mark ii for years (until recently as i've been filming more) and am way behind the game on keeping up with new tech. I had no clue that they were working on that kind of technology. Holy shit
I made a conscious decision and bought a used 5DmkIII when I upgraded from a 60D last August. The mkIII is still a splendid DSLR, maybe legendary in some respects. Ofcourse the jump from a 60D was very noticeable, as a still shooter I don't find myself wanting a mkIV with the price tag it has.
And that is a four year jump in technology and innovation.. Way to go Canon.
Thanks Jared, I just purchased the 5DIII last evening, it is an upgrade as I wanted to step up to full frame; I don't shoot video so the MK III will be perfect for me...plus the MK IV $3499 price tag is too high for minimum upgrades...I have WiFi on my 7ODs, Great post!!
Am waiting to see what the 6d mk2 has to offer. more focus points will be a huge upgrade.
I don't know, I shoot landscapes mostly. It would be nice to have better autofocus than my 6D for the occasional cycling event or other fast moving subject but I don't absolutely need it. The 5Dsr and D810 seem rather attractive to me.
This guy said you can't switch the af from servo to one shot on the mark 3, which is not true technically because you can customise the buttons in the menu and mine is set up to switch af using the depth preview button up front. It's much more realistic to have this at the front anyway as I can keep my eye on the viewfinder as I shoot and switch
Look forward to the in-depth look on the dual pixel raw functionality - hopefully there are plans to do this?
I come from Mark II as second camera (first C300) , Mark IV can be a good to me. Regards from Moscow
Mark VII is kinda far away in time buddy. Maybe in 8-9 years. Put down the vodka, is not helping you.
5D Mark iii is rocking it for me right now. Though, I wouldn't mind using the 5D mark iv for just photography, and switch to my Mark iii for just video.
Since I do mostly landscapes, I'll stick with my 5DMk3. I didn't see any revolutionary changes over the mk3 that would be worth the money to upgrade. It looks like they were simply parsing around the edges to try and keep up with the Sony cameras.
I already have the Mark 3 and not being a pro plus the fact you can never keep up with changes i'm gonna stay with what i have. I have had it since 2013 and am very happy with it
Typical Canon trying to play it safe and not kill it's other products. #StepUpCanon
Name one company that deliberately kills their own products? Not defending Canon, BTW.
Sony literally killed their DSLR market at the beginning and then eventually ended up replacing almost all the DSLRs with Mirrorless.
Sony is the only company that puts seemingly every single bit of tech in every camera they put out but it has only been like that for a couple of years. And to be honest, sony cameras are a nightmare to use for professional photography. For some reason and I cannot for the life of me understand why, but the internet seems to think that Canon owes them some sort of super camera. They want every single thing packed into 1 camera.
Michael Andrew that's what competition is for. You can't expect half assed products to compete in today's market.
Mirrorless is worthless for high speed and event still photography. I am not talking about Video, which to be honest, the Sony a7sii is incredible at for the value.
i disagree that this 5Dm4 is a worthwhile upgrade for current mk3 users. the feature set is to similar, this should be for new cannon shooters, crop to full framers, and or full replacements/ backups. i say if you have mk3 wait for mk4 price drops
yea I don't agree with that at all especially since ive used the new camera.
Have you used the camera? A blanket statement like that deserves some background, what kinds of photographers? I am shooting a wedding next week and you can bet your house that I would much rather have the 5f4 than the 3. Why on earth why would I pass up on an extra stop of clean DR and noise control?
ok but can i get a huuhhhhyeah?
+Jared Polin i just have a hard time believing a true cost benefit analysis for the minor updates wouldnt suggest an upgrade. if you dont plan on editing much then maybe the new built in wifi/ NFC can save you some time, but as far as producing images with a discernable difference in quality i would say no way. this is why im saying the camer is purchase is better for those moving from a mk2 or similar or looking to move into full frame for wide angle use.
+Michael Andrew you need for 1 extra stop of DR may be more desireable than most. but in my opinion the act of shelling out $3500 to get images that are 98% the same as those you can create on the mrk 3 with little to no work flow improvement seems wasteful. just my 2 cents
I've been waiting for a review like this to come out for the last few weeks - so let me start by saying thank you. There seems to be this preoccupation with saying that Canon didn't catch up to industry leaders like the A7r II or the D810 in terms of dynamic range or resolution. Secondly, the current reviews out there (I won't mention who) have this tendency to mark features such as video crop or the limitations of Dual-pixel raw as deal breakers for those shopping around.
For myself, I am astrophotographer who has enjoyed the 70D, 5D Mark III but was looking for something to enter the full frame market for canon that would improve on shadow, and low light noise that was an ongoing issue that had to be addressed in post with my 5D Mark III and 70D.
You honestly, yet critically discussed what this camera can do and what it should have done better while not throwing out the baby with the bathwater. For that, I tip my hat to you Jared.
Cheers man
I know a couple of canon landscape photographers who waited for the mk4. and a studio shooter who is making the most of the mk3 price drop. maybe the new sensor tech is a factor with the landscape guys.
Have a 5d mark 3 looked at the 5d mark iv also heavily considered the 5dsr mainly shoot landscapes
5D mk IV is a well-rounded & truly amazing camera ... if it came out 2 years ago. At this point, it's only worth an upgrade if you're heavily invested in Canon glass & don't like the performance of adapters onto a Sony camera. Nikon FF has IMHO the best selection of FF DSLR cameras. For mirrorless, go Sony. They're lens selection is finally being expanded & will likely have a more complete line-up by the next year or so.
I have a few reasons why I'm moving away from Canon. I'm a hybrid shooter, need to be able to switch from photo to video and back to photo quickly with good features for both. Canon adding 4K is funny to me without putting in their C-Log and some video features like while-filming zebras and peaking (not sure if it has histogram while filming as well, but in case that's missing, it's missing!) Not to say the 4K is useless, it's useful, but limited, where other cheaper cameras have 4K without these limitations. I worked with the mkiii for 3 years and the quality is amazing in both video and photo. BUT, that was 4 years ago, and the mkiv did not mature 4 years I feel, if you know what I mean.
I'm not a full time pro, but I picked up a new 5D Mk iii a couple months back for around the price of the refurbished and I love it. I mainly use it for stills and it does a fine job. If I want to shoot 4K video I just use my GH4. :)
Anybody can read off some specs and "compare" any two cameras. Give us insights and real world performance tests to see the difference, that's be a real comparison.
sina wada... I think you better if with a 5d mark 3 ... yeah like frodude said if you know what you doing any camera will be good but also depends on what is you need the camera to do best... thats why frodude has the best of the best... he is already using it
Thanks for the 5d4/5d3 comparison; I have decided to buy the 80d to suppliment my 760d
So basically the 5d mark III for photography, and 5d mark IV for video , not gonna lie that 120fps and 720p is pretty sweet
Am in love with the review of the Mark IV, I think am upgrading
I would rather save the cash and get more glass..
glass is always a good option.
I've been shooting with my 5D Mark III for the last few years. Really Great in low light. I shoot alot of weddings, Portfolios, and different functions I don't really do too much video. After listening to this review and seeing it some pics, Not really worth the Upgrade for me at this time especially with the older card format still being used on it. Thanks Jared.
What a co-incidence for you to mention upgrading from a 60d to a mk3, cos that's still my go to camera!
Nah, i'll wait for the 5d mark 10 to come out.
If you shoot more narrative content and want a budget full frame camera, the 5D MKIII with Magic Lantern Raw is a really good bet.
just bought the Canon 5D mark iii with 135mm f2
I have a Canon 5D MK3, but I can not afford the 5D MK4, so I'm looking at the Nikon D810 and D4s, I use to be a Nikon shooter with the D3X.
For 2021 - I Purchased a 5d Mark iii after seeing your review
I suspect the the 2 ounces lost on the mk4 are due to a little less of the metal in the body to make room for the wifi/NFC/gps chips....
I think u can assign the DoF preview button to act as a switch bw af servo and single in the 5d3.. But yes adding the option to assign the back button helps :)
My 70D has an articulated touchscreen which is extremely practical. And it has an inbuilt flash - which I don't use THAT often, but it IS awfully nice in some situations. These cameras don't have any of this, so I'm afraid none of them are for me.
I gave up waiting on a good portrait / jack of all trades camera from Canon and switched to a Pentax 645Z.
As much as you bashed the Lytro, the new disk pixel Raw has the potential to increase the number of keepers for subjects in motion by an order of magnitude
*dual pixel Raw
no, it doesn't work at all B-)
I just got a new mark 3 for 400 bucks as a gift. mark 4 is still like 900+ bucks, may as well get a mirrorless at that point
In both of them, which camera is better to shoot under the street lights in night and also in dark.
Thanks as always Jared for taking the time!
I mostly shoot photos so not much interested in video modes. I am Buying a used 5dm3. With 17-40 f4, 24-105 f4, 70-200 f2.8, 50 f1.8 STM, 85 1.8. I found all used. I am upgrading from the 70d as of focus issues. I seriously invested in it thinking it will last with me for a long time. But all the Canon apsc bodies with dual pixel af are having this issues. It better to move up.
If I was deciding to get a full frame DSLR for the 1st time; for about the same price range, I think the D810 would be better value then then both 5D cameras.
Hey, I am loving your videos and that you share the raw pics, TKS!
Upgraded last week. More megapixels and added wifi were my bigger selling points, and I like that I don't need all new cards
curious what Magic Lantern will 'hack' out of the mkIV :) the RAW out of the 5DmkIII is absolutely stunning... (and big, and cumbersome, but... now with the current compression ,... the filesize is big anyway ) ...
Question: Without a focus assist light built into the camera (mark III or mark IV), and without being able to use the Canon speed light on the hot shoe b/c you need to use the hot shoe for the Profoto Air Remote to fire the B1 Kit, should I be worried that this camera may fail to achieve auto focus in dynamic low light conditions, such as a wedding reception venue.?
I got my new refurb D5 Mk III for $1899 from the Canon store on 12/23. They had extra discounts for a week. Upgrading from my trusty 5D. The Mk IV is just not worth the extra price to me. I was fine with the 5D but wanted a better AF system which is the ONLY weak point of the 5D to me. I wish Canon would make a 5D with the AF system of the Mk IV and leave the video function entirely out of the cam to reduce price. That would be the optimal cam for me!!
Had 5D Mark III ... after your video moving to 5D Mark IV thanks!
when it comes to cameras, Jared is the Best
I thank a 80D is the one for me . thank you for your videos
I think your overall conclusion makes sense - it's worth upgrading from the mk iii if your income depends on the photos you produce, but if you're an amateur with a low or average income (like me) then it probably isn't worth it. Also, I note that the USA RRP in USD is less than what the Canon store is selling it for in GBP. This means that the mk iv costs just shy of US$5000 if you buy it in the UK through the official store! I'm not planning on upgrading right now, but I think when I do it will be to the mk 3 as it seems better value for money. However, my 600D still has plenty left to give if I treat it to some nice glass ;-)
The US price does not include sales tax whereas the UK price includes VAT.
Jared Thanks a lot me am getting the 5DS over the mark 4 because it is cheaper for me here in Dubai
I will end up getting the Mark 4 later - once the upgrade to Photoshop and Lightroom has been completed. Hopefully the price will drop also., The specs overall on the Mark IV suit my Photographic style and goals. I don't know enough about video but it's probablt good enough for me. I shoot RAW and mostly manual.
I sold my 5D-III in July. The price is a bit higher than I'd like at the moment so considering gettin the 80D in the meantime. How much better is the 30MP sensor than 24MP sensor in the 80D? Would need low light performance from time to time...
Honestly I would love to have anything good. but I can't complain. I recently went from a Canon Powershot sx530 hs to a Canon Rebel T5. and I'm loving that camera. one day in the future if i can save up enough I would love to get a 7d mark ii. but that will all come in time. For Right now I'm just out shooting anything and everything I can just to practice at getting better.
I know how you feel. Started out with canon eos 1000 loved it until I ran it over with my car. Then was looking for a new camera, came on youtube to look at some reviews.
The nikon and sony users thought their cameras were the best. But after watching videos and reading comments I found that sony had heating problems and nikon oil spots.
Myy 1000 had no hardware problems just dust on sensor which was a easy fix. So stuck with canon now own 1300D and 80D both I love.
Just want a camera you can shoot anytime anywhere and know it will work. Don't see anything in other systems that will make leave canon, especaily now I have more canon glass. Happy shooting.
yeah I'm looking for glass now. I have the 18-35mm and the 75-300mm but looking at the 50mm 1.8 and but need some suggestion on glass for a person on a budget
James Sanders I'm also on a budget but am patient and disciplined I bought a 24-70 and 70-200 which took me three years to save up. If I could do it again I think I would go tamron or sigma, lots of savings. The tamron 70-300 is a good cheap lens I hear, it has image stablization Which the canon 75-300 doesn't at least on mine.
I got my 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III for $60 used but it was like new on amazon.
James Sanders Mine came as kit with EOS 1000 I think thats t3 in the states not sure. But tamron or sigma recommend on a budget. I'm buying one macro and the tamron 150-300mm 5.6 to go with my 11-24, 24-70 and 70-200 all at f4 then I'll be satisfied I've covered most bases. when finally done it would've taken ten years.
We were all very exited about this release, canon let us down big time with the 5DM4, looking at nikon options
Love the MK IV. Thanks for the video, this is great!
What happened to the nice Montblanc pen? Or well.. I guess Fro was not actually writting..