CANON R6 WORTH BUYING? Canon R6 versus Canon 5D MK III
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- Опубликовано: 21 фев 2021
- In this video, I compare images from a Canon R6 to my Canon 5D MKIII
Last week my great pal lent me his Canon R6 to use for the day. I was really looking forward to using it and pitting it up against my current camera. I use the Canon 5D MKIII.
Whistles & Bells
He knew I was looking to upgrade my camera this year and because he loved it so much he thought I would too! He's right, It is an amazing camera but is it good enough for me to part with my hard-earned cash?...
you'll have to watch the film to find out 😁
Malham, a village located in the Pennines, a very picturesque district of the Yorkshire Dales.
One of the many things Malham is famous for is it's ever-changing limestone infused hills, it's amphitheatre shaped cove and it was even mentioned in the doomsday book!
For me and countless other Landscape Photographers, it's probably best known for a certain lone tree. A tree that stands very proud on a limestone pavement.
Photographing a location previously never puts me off revisiting. It just fuels the inner creative in me. Right, time to grab the classics and then work the composition.
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Year 2032 - Canon 5D Mark III versus Canon R6 Mark IV - “Meh, I wasn’t blown away, I’ll stick with the 5D.” ... Gary G. 😁
lol I'd be more than happy with that 😁😁
@@GaryGough 😀. All in good fun. I’m glad you got I was kidding and not being nasty.
You made some excellent points. I'm a professional photographer, in the U.S., specializing in people photography; portraits, gr. seniors, models, glamour, at at one time weddings. Studio and non studio work. I'm not into specs on a camera much either. My first digital camera was the Canon EOS 20D, then the 30D and the 40D. I've shot thousands of images with these various cameras. Ultimately I upgraded to the 7D and the 5DMKII. Which I used extensively . I now use a couple of 5D MKIVs. Being a people shooter I've enlarged images from the 20, 30 and 40D to 20x24 with no problems. And the 7D and 5D MKII produced equally good results with enlargements. I do have a Canon EOS R. And I use it on occasion, but I see no real difference between it and the 5D MKIVs. And I like the controls on the MK IVs better than on the R. I think most of the improvements most camera makers, including Canon, have made in recent years is in their video capability. I very much doubt I will move to the EOS R6 and certainly not the EOS R5. I think the cost is too high and the value isn't there for the work I do. This race to have more megapixels has become kind of ridiculous. And, like you, as a working photographer (I also teach classes and workshops as you do) I simply want a camera that has good ergonomics, great color (which Canon is known for) good glass, (which Canon is known for) and when I do my part helps me to produce excellent images. I too use the Canon EOS 24-105 extensively in my people photography and have no complaints about its sharpness at all. Actually many years ago, studio photographers used to encourage using softer lenses for studio portraiture because of the results they yielded. There's a limit to when sharpness becomes too much. Anyway, I just wanted to say I think you made an excellent video and it's good to see someone talking about how the photos look rather than all the specs and how good or bad video performance is. I've never had a client that wanted video and I'm not a RUclipsr or Instagram Vlogger so I have no use for video. There are still a bunch of us photographers who could care less about video.
Cheers Guy, great points well put 👍👍
Yes the Eos R shares the same sensor as the 5D mkiv so the IQ is expected to be very similar. These sensors in the new Canons have made a generational leap as far as how much information they can record. The files are no longer CR 2, they are designated CR 3, after 16 years. Thats Canons way of telling us there's been a massive shift. As for the megapixel "wars", just remember the only reason digital cameras started off with low mpx counts was due to technology limitations. Subjects in the real world have infinite resolution , if you get what I mean. It's logical to try and record as much of that detail as possible to attain the highest IQ. This also allows us freedom to crop our photographs and hence have less nessecity to buy expensive longer lenses. For some reason, some photographers have this illogical, ideological thing against higher mpx counts, hence this "war" rubbish. Its not needed as much for some types of photography, but for other types its a very useful and welcome improvement . So if you you don't need a more accurate and lifelike photo, and the benefits it brings, then that's fine. But please don't assume that as camera manufacturers aspire to higher resolution sensors that its just some marketing race. It sort of is, but there's a reason in terms of actual photography behind it as well.
You had a 20d, a 30d, a 40d, a 7d and a 5d Mark iii. Yeah! You'll upgrade to the R6, or the R6 Mark ii or iii!! It's in your DNA!
@@markrigg6623 So you avoid buying expensive lenses by buying expensive, high resolution, cameras!! In the prints most people make (8×12, 16x20) no one is going to tell the difference between an image taken with 20 mpx and one taken with 45 mpx. The only place you will see a difference is in huge prints or, as you say, when you crop a small section and blow it up. If you need it, you need it. Most people don't.
@@alansach8437 Yep absolutely. 20 mpx is plenty for a final result in an image for 95% of people's purposes. Regarding camera bodies, there's high mpx bodies available relatively cheaply , at a fraction of the cost of esoteric telephotos. Second hand camera bodies depreciatiate fairly quickly, but lenses hold their value much, much better so even In the used market they cost an arm and a leg.
I went from a 700d to a 5d MK3 in the last year and I love it! It's honestly made a huge difference to me being able to find focus in low light when doing weddings and events. I've also added the 24-70 f2.8 mk1 to my kit which has also made a huge difference from only having a 50mm f1.8 and 400mm f5.6.
Great review. I’m still using my 5D3 for fashion work. Can’t wait to see your review of the R5.
I agree with you Gary. That’s why I still have my 6D, because it takes beautiful pictures. But, I did buy the EOS R for the electronic viewfinder. It allows me to see the final exposure before I take the shot. Yes, it means nothing when taking long exposures. Now, I have 2 great cameras and I still use my EF lenses. I also think the 30MP image size is a sweet spot between 20MP and 45MP.
Truthfully, I was sad that they didn't come out with the 5DMV as well. I took a baby step 2 yrs ago and bought the RP as a "backup" to my 5DMIII, however I quickly learned that I miss some features from my 5DMIII which is why Im now researching the R6 or R6MII. I LOVE my 5DMIII and even when I do upgrade, I will not be parting with it. Ive had it for over 12 yrs and its a workhorse of a camera :)
I have the same situation with my 6D and the RP. I do love the way of working with the mirrorless but, in reality, any quality difference is marginal. Indeed, you can lift the shadows better on the 6D file!
@@deanrobertnoble138 I ended up taking the leap and getting the Canon R6MII! SO happy I did. My 5DMIII I can now see had major focusing issues, as Mt 70-200 works incredible with my new R6MII. I can also very clearly see why the R6MII VS the RP is much more comfortable for me too. I've so far kept the RP, for the resale value it's not worth it to me to loose $500 off what I paid! Plus, even though it doesn't compare to the bigger models, it is a great quality camera and images!
Great video Gary - really enjoyed it. The results didn't surprise me. I have a 5D Mk 4 and an R6. Which one I use depends on what I'm shooting, but the R6 really scores with faces (the eye detection is out of this world) and in low light when I can't use flash.
I absolutely love my R6... but the main point is: this guy is amazing :D
For what he is doing all he needs is something that can accurately give him what hes seeing, I could tell when he was sharing the images that he wouldnt go with the r6. Nothing wrong with that. Great video Gary, I moved from mark3 to r6, it ended up being a no brainer for me cause I shoot portraits with shakey hands and needed the IBIS (essential tremors). Again well done video lovely imaging.
Also looking forward to this. Deciding whether the move or part move to the R system is right for me!
Hi Gary, unprocessed the image of the 5D is definitely softer, but the difference is not the body, but the lenses. To be a bit soft unprocessed is not a bad thing, since you can sharp it during the processing, if there is enough resolution which are basically the same for both cameras. If you are only worried about the quality of the images, than there is no reason to upgrade, unless if you go to an R5, but it’s way more expensive. Or you should try the 5Ds that delivers an astonishing 50Mpix as a DSLR, since the main advantages of a mirrorless, image stabilization, auto focus on the eye, moving display, don’t make much difference taking pictures of a static landscape on a tripod. Thanks for posting this, great place to shoot and great images, congrats!
Oh bloody hell Gary! all the Canon 5D MKIIIs have all gone on Ebay none left, thanks mate!!!
Great stuff! If you get another chance to test R6, it would be awesome to see you use the same lens (say 24-105) on both cameras, so it’s more of oranges to oranges comparison.
And yes, R5 for landscapes certainly makes more sense. Excited to see what you’d do with it... although those new cameras often put more demand on computers and we end up forced to upgrade both... ehhh
How refreshing to hear an established pro photographer not bowing to manufactures hype, well done Gary,
Just saying it as it is Stu 👍👍
Thanks for this video. I'm thinking of upgrading my 5d3 - but in my case that is mostly for video use, so it's great to hear your opinion on that aspect. The video footage you got of yourself was amazing so if that was taken on the R6 I'm very impressed.
Great video Gary. Just goes to show , if it ain’t broke , don’t fix it! I use a Fujifilm X-T2 and I’m really pleased with the results I get and yet I’ve still got one eye on the X-T4 for some reason!
Thank you for the review. I too shoot with the 5D Mark III and have been wondering if I should upgrade. However I would love to have the Mark IV for the simple enhancement it offers and hoping for a bigger price drop in new/used. Thank you Gary for this video!
Gary, great video, glad to know that you are a Canon Man!! regards.
Thanks for the comparison of the two. Can’t wait to be able to get back out myself.
Gary, thanks a down to earth quick appraisal and worth its weight in gold /R6s ! I have had my 5D Mk3 for about 5 years and couldn't justify going up to a Mk4 but was/am looking at the R5/6 as a possible upgrade in the future. I was surprised that the new 28-70 f2 lens wasn't much better as everyone seems to rave about their sharpness and its price. So like you I will stay with my Mk3 and 24-105 F4 for the moment and see how 2021 develops.
I enjoy your videos Gary! More so that I get a lot of learning from you since I am a landscape enthusiasts on long exposure as well. As long as your gear answers your expectation, stick to it. If money is not an issue, upgrading would only be "gas" perhaps. Still using my D800 and my XT-1, XE2, XE1
What a refreshing change, great down to earth video, worth a subscribe :-)
Totally agree with your review , been a Canon 5D mkiv user & loving it , plus the cost just doesn’t justify the change for such tinny improvements.. keep them coming Gary .. 👍
Just purchased a 5D mk iii myself, upgrading from a canon 650d! Can’t wait to finally utilise full frame
Thumbs up, Gary! My favourite part was the “making of” the thumb nail 😮
Great review Gary, love the passion! Personally, i would take the natural sharpness of the R6 if price wasn't a consideration, but agree that if you just need to shoot killer landscapes then R6 is not the camera for you. Probably worth mentioning 5ds over the 5d4 if landscape really is all you're after, and for the aspiring photographer who might be just starting- what a great time to be buying in to the EF system, finally some bargains will be had..! I'd keep your fingers crossed for a 5dmk5- Canon started the hybrid revolution with the 5d and i think they're going to let the SLR have one last hurrah....
I admire your honesty and integrity sir. Always a pleasure to watch and learn from your teachings. Thank you so very much.
Thankyou Gary. My 10 year old camera gives quality results to challenge my newer stuff. In fact just the other day i was marvelling at pictures from an old G1 ( yes, a sunny day ).
Hi Gary great video and happen to agree with your honesty & unbiased opinion on what is best to use, my judgment has always been that it’s not how good your equipment is, but the person behind the equipment that makes the difference to taking good images whatever kind of pictures you take, in other words spending more money on gear doesn’t make you a better photographer and especially now with the cost of cameras & lenses whether DSLR or the market aiming more to Mirrorless gear, there is only a limit to what most people can spend, so just take whatever gear you have and enjoy the love of Photography as I do, because there are too many snobs in this game with expensive equipment who in the end know very little!
Both cameras are great. I use my R6 for video (4K is stunning!) but in my own comparison with my 5D Mark IV, it more than held up for landscapes. Gary didn't discuss shadow recovery, but I saw more shadow detail in my own R6 images, and I could see it in Gary's too. Eventually I'll get an R5 to replace the 5D Mark IV. In the interim, my 7D Mark II is gathering dust as it doesn't come close to the R6 in any way.
I got the R6 two weeks ago, I’m mainly a wildlife guy and the AF is incredible. I took it out at dusk a few days ago, it focused on a male Mandarin duck as it moved across the water in terrible light, I was very impressed. I upgraded from the 7D Mk1 which my 9 year old will now get along with my 100-400. I haven’t tried and landscape stuff yet, it’s been raining for days, I’m itching to got to a park I know of about 25 miles away which has swathes of spring crocus which will look great at this time of year, then the bluebells will be next.
Depends on what I'm shooting. Sports? Can't beat the R6 with 20 fps (digital shutter) and eye focus. Wildlife? Either one is great. Landscape? I prefer my 5D Mk IV. Canon has a policy of making lenses for specific camera types (Full frame, APS-C, M, and now R). I bought a couple of R adapters and can use APS and APS-C lenses.
y yo todavia aqui con mi T5i anhelando una 5D Mark IV
@@CalicheCz3D si tu T5i hace lo que necesitas, guárdala.
Hi Gary, nice to watch a video that just states the facts, really surprised you haven't mentioned the 5DSr which I would of thought would be your go to choice for Landscapes.
I love the theme - "Its not about the gear its about the pictures" - how very true !! Im sticking to my Nikon D750 for another 10 years :) Your dead right - if it doesn't blow your socks off it aint worth the money - and I'm not even a Yorkie.
The pictures are made by the gear remember. Some photography is easy, and the gear is relatively inconsequential. But some isn't. There's a huge difference between being a bird photographer and a portrait photographer for example. So beware of clever sounding but specious generalisations.
Im a D750 love it for what I do generally but I do need a bit of video AF action - so Im trying to choose between a R6 and a Z6 II.
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Thanks for your perspective Gary. I just upgraded from my 8 year old 6D to the 5D MK4. I debated going with either the 5D or R6 because at the time, Jan 12th, both were at the same price point here in the US. I know mirrorless is the future, Canon may not ever release a new DSLR, but in the end, I reasoned the DSLR is a mature platform while mirrorless is still evolving. Canon released the EOS R in 2018 and 2 years later the R5 & R6. If I got the R6 I can envision the R6 MK2 being release in 2022.
Thanks Gary for a great and very helpful video. I too have a 5D Mkiii with 28-105L lens plus a few others and do all sorts of photography and it is an amazing camera.I don't think the R6 is
as well built and I too was hoping for a 5D Mkv but will probably get a Mk iv as a second body. I also prefer an optical viewfinder. One shot taken on my 5D Mkiii is on the 2021 Countryfile
calendar this year in September and I've had photos published in many books and magazines and made very large prints which are pin sharp. So if it ain't broke.......Cheers mate.
Well, for me as a hobbyist landscape photographer, the Canon 5D Classic and 5D Mark II are ultimate DSLRs that produce outstanding results. Don't foresee the need for a new camera at all. Rather I would spend the budget to get some lenses that are missing in my arsenal.
FYI, I've shot with Canon 5D Mark III as well. It's another fantastic camera undoubtedly. However, I nourish a deep liking for Canon 6D. It's a gem of a camera.
Thank you for the video.
Gary you inspired me this time last year to get in to photography I bought a 6d mk1 but lock down has restricted my visits to great locations . Cambridgeshire fens are not the best for dramatic landscapes.
I look forward to all your videos every week and they have been and real comfort in these dark times. I will book one of your photography workshops when life is a bit more normal. Take care Gaz all the best Darren
Looking forward to meeting up Darren 👍👍 Thank you btw xx
Great video Garry. As a 5D mkii and Mkiii user myself I’ve been waiting for a video like this. I recently did a video talking about why I don’t see any point in upgrading, and I noticed while you were in the field you did exactly as I alluded to in my video. The R6 didn’t change the way you take an image. And that’s it for me. Cameras go out of date so fast these days it’s hard to keep up. But do the new systems (unless it’s medium format or an upgrade from APSC) change how we take images? I don’t think they do. Well done, great video 👏
Cheers Dave 👍👍
Great video. I love my 5D mark 3. I have the eos r and I can tell you I prefer to take photos with my mark 3. The colors and the way it renders is so much better than my R
Great honest review, well done Gary.....awesome job buddy .
Thanks 👍
Thanks for the video Gary, I always watch them. I took the opportunity to accept your offer to download the files, I was a 4 colour printer for over 50yrs & a hobby photographer. I compared the tree shot on the left shot mainly, found they were both sharp but felt the CR3 had the edge. The CR3 images are also warmer than the CR2 files......I have just upgraded from the 5D Mk II to the R, haven't had much chance to use it at the moment but there looks like light at the end of the tunnel......Stay Safe.....
those are some beautiful shots!
Very useful video. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Just bought the R5 a couple of weeks ago. I’m primarily a wildlife shooter and so far results are excellent and the animal eye detect is fantastic! I’m a Canon 1DX shooter and so far I’m liking the R5 better.
the reason I didn't upgrade to the 1dxmkii, and the mkiii is a awful price, im going r6 for wildlife, as it seems a good bet, with many benefits of the r5, but a lower pixel count, 20mp is perfect for me, and the eye detect is similar to the r5 I think if ive done the research right, as a wildlife person id like to hear you opinion, it might be a eye opener to me, look forward to your reply
Fair play Gary, you have avoided the dreaded GAS disease..haha. It's not a surprise, plenty of Canon shooters swear by the 5D Mk3 and that sensor and rightly so. You are also right about the R6 though, I have the dreaded GAS so have two R6's but as pointed out by you, matching the camera to the job is all you need. I shoot weddings and the R6 is a game changer no question. Size and weight (nope not using that 28/70 F2) low light AF (insanely good) and for lenses like my L series 50 f1.2 / 24 f1.4 /135 f2 they have literally come alive on this camera. There are many other improvements but could I shoot a wedding on a 5Dmk3 with a 24-105 F4 lens, course I could and it would be totally fine. Thx again, always love your no nonsense videos. cheers Mark
Thank you. I still shoot a 5D3 and the R5 was a little out of my range. I considered the R6 but I struggled with whether it would be enough of an improvement in tech to compensate for the lower resolution. I print A3+ at home and the 5D3 works perfectly to get me 300 dpi prints. Even with a $2999 28-70 f/2L, the R6 really isn't blowing me away. This video really helped me on that subject. The downloads let me do a detailed comparison in LR and I think I really would have been disappointed. The R6 images are slightly sharper, which is really the result of the glass. Canon really should have made the R6 26-30 megapixels. Thanks again for this video. It was exactly what I needed.
Well R6 has 1dx iii sensor, so you are basically saying 5dm3 is better than 1dx iii.
For anyone watching in 2024: You now have to take into consideration the CRAZY cheap price point at which the 5D III sells for nowadays on the used market. I‘ve seen bodys for under 400€ (living in Germany) which is just bonkers for that kind of a bullet proof, professional camera.
However, I remember many times editing my 5D III photos back in 2013~2018 when I was frustrated by the limiting dynamic range of the sensor, especially in comparison to the Nikon cameras a few of my colleagues were using back then. And I’m glad to report that this frustration is gone with the newer generation R-Line Canon sensors. I own the R8 and when I first looked at the files from that 24MP sensor I was REALLY blown away by the amount of detail and the great dynamic range. Having tried Fuji, Nikon, Sony and Lumix FF cameras, this is the best sensor (in that megapixel range) that I‘ve ever used. And I believe it’s a good amount better than the sensor found in the original R6.
Fantastic, honest review, Gary. Wanting to upgrade my Mk 3. It looks like I'll be investing in a Mk 4. I shoot landscape and just want great images. Thank you
This is Sean in Atlanta. I have been a faithful follower of yours for several years and I enjoyed this video and I have to say I agree with you! I am looking forward to your review and comparison with the R5. But I think you did the right thing with this R6.
Sean
Cheers Sean xx
Great video Gary. Fully agree, been considering taking the jump but cant bear to part with my 5DMk III. Subscribed !👍🇦🇺
Great vlog Gary. I upgraded from the 7Dmk1 to the 5Dmk4 just before lock down part 1 and just about got to some nice locations before every thing was shut down again. I was blown away by the difference mostly the dynamic range. The question on my mind is at what point do you draw the line on image quality. When does it get to a point that can't be betterd? There's always going to be new features granted, but other than actually being there and seeing things with your own eyes do you see a difference. Are more pixels to play with creating an A3 print going to differ that much but, then we start a whole new argument about printers, ink, paper etc etc.
Cheers Colin 👍👍
I have the 5D MKIII and the 7D MKII and now I am a proud owner of the R6. I mainly shoot journalist and street but also very often landscape and fine art. Also the lone tree you juts photographed has been on my bucket list for quite some time and on my next trip to the North East I will surely go and shoot it.
Gary , you are the only photography blog that I watch, love your work mate,
Very kind Matt, cheers 👍👍
I’m glad I watched this I am just recently looking to upgrade from my rebel XTI which I found was a power horse (for me) for the last 15 years, so I’ve been looking to see what to upgrade to and I’m glad the 5D Mark iii it’s still a great camera it will save me at least 2000 bucks over the R6!
Thank you for the review👍
Great , honest and no holes barred Gary review, love it. I shoot using the awesome canon 5DSR which is an awesome bit of kit with a huge sensor that sucks all the detail, colour and vibrancy in onto it. I tHought of upgrading but like you there is nothing in the R5 and R6 or the R or RP that would want to make me swap. Rarely do I shoot above iso400 and always on a tripod so don’t see the need of all the gadgets within the body. Post processing has become an art now and with so many upgrades to the Adobe frame work it just doesn’t warrant the cost of 6k for R5 and RF lens.
Great vlog mate and yours is the second vlog that makes me see sense and stick with the canon 5DSR which is in effect a medium format sensor.
Take care and stay safe mate and great vlog📸❤️👍🤓🇬🇧
on the 5Dsr do you see any limitations in shadow/highlight recovery in post process as it has a lower dynamic range compared to the 5DIV and R5. I have the 6D mark I which has very similar DM profile to the 5DSR and there is certainly a large recovery penalty in post.
As a confirmed peeper I've looked at the raw images and to my eyes the R6/28-70 f2 is noticably better than the 5Diii/24-105 f4. However I bet I would struggle to tell the difference if you were using a 24-70 2.8. The 28-70 f2 seems like an odd lens to me.
Fantastic location by the way. You find some gooduns and make good use of them. Love the drone footage.
Liked the video Gary. Nice pictures what so ever. I couldn't see any difference either. 🍀
Great comparison. I also have the 5D Mk III and have been asking the same questions. Your analysis has validated my gut feeling. I would have like to had seen the comparison using the same lens on both cameras so that any difference in image quality is a result only from camera differences. It's hard to justify the extra cost going to R6/R5 and getting new lenses. Like many I would probably continue to use my EF lenses on mirrorless. This then raises a new consideration. As I believe Canon EF lenses with an adapter could work on a Sony Alpha a7R IV Mirrorless with its 62MP sensor would that get the quantum leap in quality that would justify the cost? Looking forward to your R5 comparison.
Great review Gary. Thank you.
I am still using my Canon 5D Mk2 . It just does a good job and earned my living through 10 years+ of being a wedding photographer and locationscout. My camera didn't catch a bullet but it went through a lot over the years. I love it when the metal is shimmering through, so the patina is great. Somehow I am even emotionally attached to this camera.
What one have to consider when investing in another camera is, that you almost always have to adjust your software and harddrives to the newer camera. Don't change a running system ...
Keep up the good work!👍
Excelente 😮 yo acabo de comprar la 5d mii y estoy contento, me podrías dar tu Instagram para hecharle un vistazo a las fotos ?🙏
Hey Gary that was just what I needed. I own a 7D II and it is very good, however the low light..... So I was looking for an improvement. Being an amateur, not doing it for a living, budget is always a thing to consider. I did however spent much money on EF-L lenses and keep on using them is paramount (without a connector but of course). The 5D IV is still a very expencive camera, if you want to buy it in good condition. So here it is: I put the 5D III into the puding and call it a day. I could not care less. Besides these new lenses are not only extremely expensive, they are very bulcky to. So thanks, this is what I needed to know. Roland from good old Germany.
Well done, and thanks for your thoughts on this “issue”.
Im still using a 30D 🤭 and want to upgrade......leaning towards the 5D Mark IV since I still like my EF lenses and would like to keep them.
Lens adapters work very well, even the cheap ones, enabling full use of EF lenses on r cameras.
That was yet again a straight forward and to the point simple review. As a fellow Yorkshire man I don't see the need to jump on the bandwagon of all the hype for new technology. I currently use a 7d mk2 and looking to add a full frame camera possibly the 5d mk4 as prices are falling. I also think that its the glass that makes the images stand especially in landscapes where detail matters. There are still some very good quality EF glass out there which can be used on the new mirror less bodies. Prices need to drop dramatically for me to invest currently. Cheers Gary
The 7D MKII is an excellent camera. As you say the 5D4 is possibly a great addition. Cheers xx
Thanks Gary, I have two 5D MK lll's... Which I use for action marine photography, surfing, kiteboarding, sailing etc, on their second set of shutters now, been hammered too death, as far as I'm concerned they are the Toyota Landcruiser of cameras. I too was thinking of upgrading but after seeing your video I think I'll just stick with my original cameras, I also find that once one has had a camera so long it becomes part of you and you can really make it talk. Wishing you all the best from Down Under.
It's a great feeling when you know the cameras owe you nothing. The MKIII's truly are awesome. Cheerrs Dave 👍👍
Hey Gary, thanks for the video ... My perspective comes from doing photography as my hobby since the 1960's. Like so many of us, I started out with 35mm film cameras (unless you count my Kodak Brownie when I was really young). A camera is basically a dark box with a lens on one end and a 24mm x 36mm area at the other end where the image is focused, either on film or a sensor. You control the exposure by adjusting the aperture and shutter speed, focus your image, and press the shutter button. The camera lets in the light, and the picture is taken.
When switching between digital cameras, you're just swapping one sensor and processor for another. It's like switching between Panatomic X and Plus X. Sure, the Panatomic X image will be less noisy than the Plus X image ... but in good light, well exposed, who cares?
So I'm not surprised that two full frame cameras in the hands of an experienced landscape photographer will both produce excellent images. Cameras don't create photographs - photographers do. Ansel Adams with a Kodak Brownie will produce better landscapes than a rich hobbyist with the most state-of-the-art equipment. Every time!
BTW, to do a real scientific test, you should remove a variable: use the same 24-105 lens on both cameras (you could have done this with an adapter). Had you made the comparison with the same lens, I don't think anyone but the most obsessive pixel-peeper could have discerned any difference whatsoever.
In my mind, the two best advantages of digital are these: there's no such thing as "wasting film" and you'll never have to deal with dust in the darkroom.
I upgraded from the 5D MkIII to the EOS R and I’ve been thrilled with its performance. Specifically, when using ND filters. It will autofocus in scenes that the 5D MkIII can’t. The 28-70 is fantastic! Thanks again for your videos.
Great camera eos r love mine
@@hillsrgood1 me too
That 28-70 is one of the best lenses ever created by canon.. or by anyone really.
Got the R5 in July and absolutley love the flexibility of it. The AF is astonishing and the Dynamic range is a massive surprise for me when I shot a few sunrises in October using the RF 70-200MM F2.8L.
Its a bit more money but I think worth it.
Jealous as hell :)
Hi Gary, Great comparison between 5D Mk3 & R6. For Landscape photography only not much difference in image quality between the two but then again your not using much of the R6’s full potential if it’s for landscape only. Question is your probably gonna upgrade sometime and mirrorless seems to be becoming the natural choice now for DSLR users. The R5 is a fantastic camera to upgrade to for landscapes because of the high MP count and that would be my choice but you need deep pockets to justify the cost. Or maybe wait till they become more reasonable or grey import. But the EOS R is still a good proportion to get into upgrading into canon mirrorless. Ok if it’s just image quality alone the Canon 5DS R is still an awesome camera but ofc you probably already worked these options out yourself. I enjoyed your video keep up the good work:)
Quality Vlogs as always. And beautiful images.
I can't really comment knowledgeably on the comparison factor between your camera 5D Miii and the R6.
As I am a beginner and am using two entry level cameras currently. What I can say though is from the comparison of the photos I genuinely wasn't blown away at all.
Richie.
Just goes to show we shouldn't all listen to the hype 👍👍
@@GaryGough very true. I have only ever used my entry level cameras. And haven't had the opportunity yet to use an upgraded camera with higher specs etc.
I believe if what your producing is good enough for you then that's what matters. There will be a camera you upgrade to but is that time right now ? I don't think it will be for you.
Richie
I just purchased an 5d3 for $600 dlls, I have used an Ae1program, A2e, 30d, 50d, 7d, 7d2 and I was debating going to mirror less after see your review I’m very happy I did not upgrade. Thanks for that amazing comparison.
You've got yourself a real workhorse 👍👍
Great video i was thinking of upgrading to the new Sony A1 from the Sony A7ii, most of my landscape is done at night. Looking closer everything i need is still in the A7ii, so ive decided to spend my money on new lenses
I also got a Sony A7II recently, upgraded from a Nikon D2x, haha. I love the A7II.
You're right Gary. It's all about how to use your gear and to the needs.
Great Vlog, Interesting comparison, I've always prefered the R5, mainly because of the sensor, I would have thought the true comparison for the R6 would be one of the 1D's great drone work, video and music, the R glass seems to be a different issue, as i am sure it's sharpness is equal to the L series lenses, and they are faster. A great challenge Gary
Good work Gary fully understand your thoughts. For me l do landscape but have started some wildlife for some fun so l got the R6 & it is brilliant for that. I absolutely love the R6 as l enjoy using the tech not just the results so l just find it so enjoyable to use but next to the Z6 for landscape just a matter of whether prefer Nikon or Canon colors. Use what you enjoy eh👍.
Absolutely, cheers Scott 👍👍
Not a Canon guy Gary, but still enjoyed the Broll and drone footage, and of course your thoughts on the comparison between camera's, thanks for sharing and stay safe.
Thanks, you have just helped me with my somewhat similar situation
Glad I could help 👍👍
Great video!! I use the 5DS( and love it) out here in Utah. . Always been a Canon guy. Couldn't see myself upgrading . But canon either way puts out superb camera's and glass. The 5D mark iii is an awesome camera. No matter the age. " Sony's menus are disgusting" 😂😂😂 so accurate.
Great video Gary, I use the 5D mk iv so would like an honest comparison with that. I love my mk iv and don't really see the point of changing to the R6 . As Steve Foreman has already said, in live view the 5 is mirrorless.
Hi Gary, great Video! Thankss for your work.
I totally see your point. As a landscape photographer the 5d ii is perfect. But how about Animal, Kid and soprtsphotography...there i miss a lot of shots with my 5d. The AF of these newer cameras seem to be so much better. I think about switching....
Great Video, thanks! Looking at the R6 vs. the A7RIII. Kids & Landscape, similar price-points with 3rd Party lenses on the Sony... As a pianist I loved the music in this one, well done!
great video and very informative, makes you think about upgrading
I like the honesty, I keep looking to upgrade my system, I’m shooting with a Nikon D7500, but like you can’t find anything that shown a massive improvement in image quality for the right budget.
That video helped me a lot. I own the 1D X, which is very much just a 5D Mark III with a little lower resolution, a higher frame rate and an larger body. My focus are architecture shots and now I am confident that my old 1D X can still compete. Of course when it comes to moving subjects, the R6 blows my camera away.
I had a 5d mark iii and switched to an r6. I was not impressed at first but when I started using the right settings I got blown away. The resolution is better on the r6, way sharper with r lenses than the 5d. I didn't see it at first because I was using the mechanical shutter and it blurred my pictures around 1/100th s. The dynamic range is way better, the tilt screen saves me a lot of lying on the floor to get some shots and the main one: I don't have portrait pictures where eyes are slightly out of focus with prime lenses anymore. Where I was taking 10 pictures with my 5d I m now down to 1. For landscape photography the r6 is not as much of a jump as I thought it would be (except for DR) but for action and portrait it s huge jump forward.
All the boys seem to be upgrading, they seem to be in a gear lock. Love the bit about click bait, keep up the good work mate.
Interesting review Gary. I'm currently using a Canon 80D and I have been thinking about upgrading. However i have very little interest in video except very occasionally. Thanks for adding clarity.
It's still a great camera and worth adversary to the 80D. FYI I still believe the best camera I ever bought in terms of value for money was my M50. It uses the 80D sensor. It's an excellent all-round camera.
I bought a second hand 80D at the beginning of lockdown as a back up to my 5D mk3 and have thoroughly enjoyed it. Flip screen and weight have been the two key advantages for me but the images are just fine.
I use the Canon 5d mkiii and the 5d mkiv and I will never change over unless I have to.
Basically if I switch over will it make me a better photographer?
I don’t think so.
Thank you Gary for your comparison.
Why do you list 5d iv in your camera gear if you use 5d iii. I was thinking of an upgrade thanks for the info. Great as always
Great video Gary - although using an f2 lens set at small aperture for landscape is not a useful comparison. Both excellent cameras but for flexibility of different shoots R6 and R5 win hands down
Agree Colin but it was the only lens I had for the R6. Having said that, I shot the scene with an apereture I would normal choose.
I've enjoyed watching this again. I have a bit of a dilemma I'm upgrading from my 700d to a canon eos r or a r6. Just can't decide.. any advise at all.?
That's a toughie! They're both excellent cameras. There is very little difference between them but the "R" is much cheaper. You could buy the "R" and put the money saved towards a lens maybe?
Upgraded to the R5 from 5DIV last year - the image quality and dynamic range is much better, not to mention the high-res 45Mp images. I wouldn't upgrade to the R6 for landscapes, but I'm very happy with the R5 so far.
R5 Great choice and one I would certainly opt for 👍👍
Very interesting, I was expecting the R6 pictures to be noticeably sharper due not so much the different sensors but the RF28-70 lens which is massive (in size & price!). I'd echo what others have said about the EOS R, if you're not bothered about action, then it's excellent & the RF24-105 is very good and the RF24-70 is better still. The RF15-35 is very nice too & EF glass works faultlessly with the adaptor. Very happy with my EOS R but I am trying to convince myself that I need the R5 as well though ;)
Excellent content ! Well done 👍
I fully agree with your comments in the video - the 5dmk3 & mk4 are excellent pieces of kit ideal for landscape photography but are limited for wildlife or sports action when compared against the new R6 with its excellent new focus system and faster frame speeds... Just sold my 7dmk2 & 5dmk4 for the R5. & RP..being used with my old L lenses with the eos/rf adapter.. But If it aint broke don't feel the need to fix it
I am adore Canon 5D mark lll i plan to use this camera to earn money in my profession next 5-6 years)) I am wedding and fashion photographer. Thank you very much for this video!
Well done Gary. Although you have bucked the trend of always going for the latest gear, his podcast is encouraging to those of us who don't have money falling out of our pockets👍
Just saying it as it is :)
Hmmm, very interesting. I admire your honesty Gary. Due to the fact that I part exchanged my D500, I never got the chance to do a comparison side by side with the Z7ii. Do you think there would be a notable difference from a crop sensor to full frame ( 20meg to 45meg)??
R5 if you need the extra megapixels for larger prints/cropping. Expect the R6 had the edge on DR for shadow recovery plus the ibis of course but only of use off the tripod. Using the original R & would propose that over a 5d Mkvi for the better af sensor coverage, evf etc. use both EF & RF glass so best of both worlds. I’d move to the R5 but not being a professional couldn’t justify the outlay not to mention the higher megapixel probably needs the RF glass to get the best out of it. Great video Gary 👍🏻
Hi Gary. Great review... I just discovered your channel 1 hour ago.. THE question is : Did you compare 5DIII / R5 ??
I agree with the assessment! My 5DSr is good for me. I own the 24-70 II, 100-400 II, 17-40, it's a big deal to replace the kit. It's about the shot, not the gear anyway... As you said!
Love your pragmatic advice and approach! 🇭🇲🇭🇲😄😄
Cheers Rob 👍👍
@Gary did you by any chance use the mechanical shutter on the R6? if yes this will most likely blur detail when using a tripod, the best is Electronic first curtain I must admit the photo R6.2 is pretty soft here especially on the tree. I came from the 5D4 and I'm really enjoying the quality from the R5. As a mainly wildlife shooter the Autofocus was a game changer for me, but i also recently did a bit of portrait work with the RF 85mm 1.2 and I was gobstruck by the quality that that lens produced wide open, the Eye AF was bang on every single time, and crazy detail and micro contrast, something a DSLR user could only dream of.