so, in 5-7 degree Celsius, with 3 adults and 2 dogs in a city with a lot of small hills, and moderate stop and go traffic it gives about 36kms on full electric, in the same city , with same temp and no traffic (early morning) it gave 40 kms for a full charge. I am sure it will give a longer range in places with better temp. Hope this helps Update, so 1100 kms done , yet to put gas in :) driving about 25 to 40 kms a day . Remaining range is still 200 kms !
There is 20% battery reserved when you hit 0 ev mile. I start to charge from gasoline engine when I go on highway and change to normal mode when enter city again. The gas engine is also very efficient on highway.
Thank you for a truly fair and honest review. Just the other day I drove my CX90 PHEV to work for the first time in all electric mode. I drove around 5 mpg over the speed limit (65 and 75 mph respectively) and I still got around 27 miles of range. Unlike Tesla, Mazda is more realistic with their range. Just like you said, they I under promise and then they over deliver.
How quick is it in EV mode? I'm coming from a Mach e GT because I need a 3rd row, and plan to drive in EV mode as much as possible but nervous that it's going to be painfully slow in EV mode.
@@phillipmaloney5364it is not quick… at all… but for road and highway cruising it is fine. The only issue I have with driving all electeic it takes 2-3 seconds for the engine to kick back in when you try to floor it… that is why a lot of people just keep it in normal mode and let the drivetrain figure it out. As long as you drive reasonably it will default to electric until the battery runs out.
I’d be really interested to see a true city/suburb stop and go. Doesn’t necessarily have to be bumper to bumper, but traffic that flows between lights. Cruising kills electric range, so in stop and go and bumper to bumper you may see 40+
I would like to know the same, but nobody does city testing. Our driving is 95% city and lots of hard bumper to bumper traffic. Every single ICE vehicle I've owned I always get like 6 mpg les average that the oficial city EPA. As a reference, my current cx5 is tsted at 26 city and I average 18-19 mpg. One local dealer is offering me a cx90 PHEV for $440 a month all taxes included with $4100 down. I'm tempted to go for it, but not a lot of info regarding city mpg
I have this car, weirdly enough, it acts pretty much like ICE for consumption, on highway I get 39 kms ( I live in a Canada , temp below 10 degrees all the time) in traffic I get 33 kilometres. love the car :) edit: I live in a city with a LOT of hills and climbs
Great Review and big fan of PHEV here (currently driving a Kia Sorento PHEV Prestige here in the US). My EPA pure EV range is 32 miles but I exceed that quite often if I drive in moderate speed.
Agreed. If you have a place to charge at home and can only own one car, PHEVs make the best vehicles for most people. On road trips, you get hybrid level mileage and no range anxiety. In fact, DC fast chargers cost so much that mile for mile, it is generally cheaper to use gas on a hybrid vehicle than to DC charge any BEV, even a Tesla. BTW, I own a PHEV and I only run the gas engine every so often on short road trips. 85% of miles are EV. They're fantastic vehicles but got a bad rap because they were bought in huge numbers in Europe as corporate vehicles because of incentives. The companies paid the fuel so employees rarely bothered charging them, which just made them heavy HEVs.
I average 30 in my PHEV CX-90. What I think is missing in the Analysis is the CX-90 is still charging during this time helping to extend the range depending on the drive style and driving environment.
We're averaging 1.8 miles per kwh (27 miles of range) with regen breaking on high. From what I heard, the battery only lets you use 15kwh of the 17.8kwh so that it's never fully depleted.
The Mazda owners, do you guys charge it to 100% every time? My salesman told me it’s better to charge to 80% for the longevity of battery, but i charge to 90% everyday.
Your salesman probably doesn't own one. I drive a Kia Sorento PHEV for two years now and charge to 100% all the time as there is alway a 20% reserve battery remaining.
Thanks for a great video. It is good to see this car being offered. PHEVs are a great way to get into electric vehicles. I bought a Honda Clarity PHEV about 4 years ago and it was the best decision I ever made in a car. Like the Mazda, I can drive pure EV mode in city or highway and it will kick on the gas engine if/when the tank of electrons runs dry. And I can drive across country on regular gas - so never any range anxiety. I am fortunate that I can charge it in my garage and live only a few miles from where I work, so I only see a gas station once a year or so. But if I didn't, I'd just put it into gas/hybrid mode when on the interstate and fill-up as needed. Great technology. I only wish the industry had gotten behind PHEVs from the beginning !
I was really interested in getting a PHEV, but living in an apartment building there is no way a PHEV can be charged up, so essentially I’m sticking with a gas or hybrid car.
Did you mention the ambient temperature? That's something to record as well. Since you set the HVAC to 72 degrees, I'm thinking it's warmer than that out, but that's an assumption on my part. Thanks for doing this video. Oh, wait, I am commenting while watching, so you just said it's 94 degrees out. That makes the range you got even more important! Nice!
You guys do such a good job of these PHEV range tests. I would love it if you could do a range test on the 2024 BMW X5 xdrive 50e. I am very interested in this vehicle, but confused by the range estimates. European and US both spec the battery at 29.5kWh gross and 25.7kWh net capacity, but WLTP estimated range, which is usually higher than EPA, gives it 94-110kms and the EPA estimate is only 40 miles. That is a HUGE difference. Only someone like your controlled test will tell us the real world range. Thank you
Any idea what the mpg is in pure hybrid mode? Also does this car offer the option to only charge at a certain time of day? Like id like to plug it in when i get home but it only starts charging at midnight because i have a mucg lower electric rate then
You can schedule when to start and stop the charge. You must schedule it first then plug it in. If you plug it in first, it will start charging immediately.
I have a 2023 Mitsubishi outlander phev. Its rated at 38 miles per charge. Im constantly getting 45 with the regen. But it has a super slow on board charger. I like the Mazda
@@Brian_Eugene_Lee coz they are pretty reliable , I have colleagues with Mitsubishis clocking over 180k kilometers and not a single problem ( I am in Western Canada). I drive this Cx 90 myself but the Outlander was the only other alternative here, (price and practicality considered). Plus in Canada they provide insane warranties, look at their website!
wow! that's what iw as hoping for. Do you live somewhere warm, that isn't hilly, avoid highways, and drive conservatively? I live in SC and the 4xe wrangler was rated at 21 miles of range but i routinely get 28. If i put the heater on, drive over 50mph the range goes down considerably.
Does anyone know how long a charge lasts while driving in the hybrid mode? Let's say i drive 20 miles a day. How long before i have to charge it again? I have to rely on public charging.
So when I purchased mine I drove it off the lot with 30 miles of charge on the battery. I have yet to get it back to that since like 2 weeks after I purchased it. I am assuming it is going off the average miles I drive, which is town miles. My full charge now is 17 miles. I am having to charge it every night and it wasn't like that at the beginning. Wondering if everyone else is having this issue or am I not doing something correctly? My app says it is fully charged every morning.
It doesn't need to run 100% on electricity. When it's using the gas engine, it's still a hybrid. If the engine is on for 10% of your daily commute, you'd end up burning 93% less gasoline than if you had a gas model.
Thanks for your very informative video! A couple of comments. I wonder how well the base PHEV will do because it has smaller/narrower tires. Toyota maximizes efficiency by installing really small and skinny tires on their HEVs and it is well known that all BEVs lose significant range if bigger wheels/tires are optioned. Thus, the base model is likely to add 10-15% of EV range and improve HEV mileage on already impressive numbers. On that note, do you plan to do a real world test on HEV mileage after the battery is depleted?
Did you have trouble remembering to move the gear shift to the left to put it back in park? I've heard other people say they are mistaking reverse for park.
It's unnatural feeling for the first few days but we adapted to it. It's harder if you switch between different kinds of cars frequently to rewire your brain
Im debating between this vehicle or the Santa Fe PHEV. As a person who just got fed up with my fuel mileage do to the fact that i do 90% city driving and like 20%of hard core bumper to bumper traffic I could benefit from a hybrid or PHEV( Full electric is out of the question becauee i travel once a year in a 3k mile trip where theres no charging stations (mexico). I need some help as both vehicles i got offered the same deal. My current Mazda CX5 im averaging 18-19 mpg.
I have the equivalent 22' Kia Sorento PHEV top of the line Prestige and I'm currently at 76 mpg! Sometime don't fill up for months since most of our commutes are 30 miles or less.
THanks for the info guys, question for you both. My mazda cx-90 phev is set up to charge only 50%, how do i change so it can chargest to 100%? thank you.
For a PHEV what matters is City Range. You will use gasoline for long trips. All BEVs have enough City Range. What matters is how far will it go on the highway before needing to stop and charge.
Shocked me! Pure EV range is around 30 miles ? ! It's really really SHAMEFUL 🤣🤣🤣 Lynk & Co 08 EV mode is about 200km, total navigation range (electric+fuel) is about 1200 km.
so, in 5-7 degree Celsius, with 3 adults and 2 dogs in a city with a lot of small hills, and moderate stop and go traffic it gives about 36kms on full electric, in the same city , with same temp and no traffic (early morning) it gave 40 kms for a full charge. I am sure it will give a longer range in places with better temp. Hope this helps
Update, so 1100 kms done , yet to put gas in :) driving about 25 to 40 kms a day . Remaining range is still 200 kms !
There is 20% battery reserved when you hit 0 ev mile. I start to charge from gasoline engine when I go on highway and change to normal mode when enter city again. The gas engine is also very efficient on highway.
Thank you for a truly fair and honest review.
Just the other day I drove my CX90 PHEV to work for the first time in all electric mode. I drove around 5 mpg over the speed limit (65 and 75 mph respectively) and I still got around 27 miles of range.
Unlike Tesla, Mazda is more realistic with their range. Just like you said, they I under promise and then they over deliver.
way better than over promising and under delivering, just like BMWs they are usually faster than they say the are.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience!
How quick is it in EV mode? I'm coming from a Mach e GT because I need a 3rd row, and plan to drive in EV mode as much as possible but nervous that it's going to be painfully slow in EV mode.
@@phillipmaloney5364it is not quick… at all… but for road and highway cruising it is fine. The only issue I have with driving all electeic it takes 2-3 seconds for the engine to kick back in when you try to floor it… that is why a lot of people just keep it in normal mode and let the drivetrain figure it out. As long as you drive reasonably it will default to electric until the battery runs out.
I’d be really interested to see a true city/suburb stop and go. Doesn’t necessarily have to be bumper to bumper, but traffic that flows between lights. Cruising kills electric range, so in stop and go and bumper to bumper you may see 40+
I would like to know the same, but nobody does city testing. Our driving is 95% city and lots of hard bumper to bumper traffic. Every single ICE vehicle I've owned I always get like 6 mpg les average that the oficial city EPA. As a reference, my current cx5 is tsted at 26 city and I average 18-19 mpg.
One local dealer is offering me a cx90 PHEV for $440 a month all taxes included with $4100 down. I'm tempted to go for it, but not a lot of info regarding city mpg
I have this car, weirdly enough, it acts pretty much like ICE for consumption, on highway I get 39 kms ( I live in a Canada , temp below 10 degrees all the time) in traffic I get 33 kilometres. love the car :)
edit: I live in a city with a LOT of hills and climbs
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Great Review and big fan of PHEV here (currently driving a Kia Sorento PHEV Prestige here in the US). My EPA pure EV range is 32 miles but I exceed that quite often if I drive in moderate speed.
Agreed. If you have a place to charge at home and can only own one car, PHEVs make the best vehicles for most people. On road trips, you get hybrid level mileage and no range anxiety. In fact, DC fast chargers cost so much that mile for mile, it is generally cheaper to use gas on a hybrid vehicle than to DC charge any BEV, even a Tesla. BTW, I own a PHEV and I only run the gas engine every so often on short road trips. 85% of miles are EV. They're fantastic vehicles but got a bad rap because they were bought in huge numbers in Europe as corporate vehicles because of incentives. The companies paid the fuel so employees rarely bothered charging them, which just made them heavy HEVs.
Thanks for the review I have a Mazda CX60 plug in I got 69 km and still have 5% left in the battery now a similar drive in Australia
Thanks for sharing!
I average 30 in my PHEV CX-90. What I think is missing in the Analysis is the CX-90 is still charging during this time helping to extend the range depending on the drive style and driving environment.
We're averaging 1.8 miles per kwh (27 miles of range) with regen breaking on high. From what I heard, the battery only lets you use 15kwh of the 17.8kwh so that it's never fully depleted.
How much does a kwh cost? I'm looking at people get excited about 30 miles, and that is less than a gallon of gas for me.
@@joelbrimm3660 we pay $.09 per kwh.
@@joelbrimm3660I'm in Canada where I pay 7.3¢ per kwh, so at 1.8 kwh per mile, it works out $1.05 CDN (or 77¢ US for you ) for 26 miles.
@@joelbrimm3660very little
The Mazda owners, do you guys charge it to 100% every time? My salesman told me it’s better to charge to 80% for the longevity of battery, but i charge to 90% everyday.
My salesman told me the same thing, I charged it at 90%, but now I'm charging it up to 100 .😅
to 100% all the time, dealer said there is auto cut off so nothing to worry about!
Your salesman probably doesn't own one. I drive a Kia Sorento PHEV for two years now and charge to 100% all the time as there is alway a 20% reserve battery remaining.
A made in Japan inline6 rear wheel SUV! Only Mazda 🎉
Actually, the PHEV version has a 2.5 liter normally aspirated SkyActive inline 4.
I like it it's nice on the inside and out I would buy it
Same. All I’m lacking is money. Otherwise I’m sold!
In a year or two battery technology will improve. Sixty will be amazing. I am going to really keep my eye on these phevs
Thanks for a great video. It is good to see this car being offered. PHEVs are a great way to get into electric vehicles. I bought a Honda Clarity PHEV about 4 years ago and it was the best decision I ever made in a car. Like the Mazda, I can drive pure EV mode in city or highway and it will kick on the gas engine if/when the tank of electrons runs dry. And I can drive across country on regular gas - so never any range anxiety. I am fortunate that I can charge it in my garage and live only a few miles from where I work, so I only see a gas station once a year or so. But if I didn't, I'd just put it into gas/hybrid mode when on the interstate and fill-up as needed. Great technology. I only wish the industry had gotten behind PHEVs from the beginning !
I was really interested in getting a PHEV, but living in an apartment building there is no way a PHEV can be charged up, so essentially I’m sticking with a gas or hybrid car.
Did you mention the ambient temperature? That's something to record as well. Since you set the HVAC to 72 degrees, I'm thinking it's warmer than that out, but that's an assumption on my part. Thanks for doing this video. Oh, wait, I am commenting while watching, so you just said it's 94 degrees out. That makes the range you got even more important! Nice!
During long school pick up lines, would the EV mode keep the AC on without engaging gas engine???
Absolutely
Yes or heat if it's cold out
I have one, It doesn't consume gas when on pure electric mode. It's been a month now since i got mine, and I only refueled it once.
You guys do such a good job of these PHEV range tests. I would love it if you could do a range test on the 2024 BMW X5 xdrive 50e. I am very interested in this vehicle, but confused by the range estimates. European and US both spec the battery at 29.5kWh gross and 25.7kWh net capacity, but WLTP estimated range, which is usually higher than EPA, gives it 94-110kms and the EPA estimate is only 40 miles. That is a HUGE difference. Only someone like your controlled test will tell us the real world range. Thank you
Thanks! Hopefully we will be able to soon
Any idea what the mpg is in pure hybrid mode? Also does this car offer the option to only charge at a certain time of day? Like id like to plug it in when i get home but it only starts charging at midnight because i have a mucg lower electric rate then
You can schedule when to start and stop the charge. You must schedule it first then plug it in. If you plug it in first, it will start charging immediately.
The EPA hybrid mode highway is 28 MPG and 25 combined mpg same as the inline 6
Would have been good to exhaust the battery in the city and then do a separate test on the interstate.
For scientific and comparison purposes, we run the same route for all the cars we test but thanks for the feedback
I have a 2023 Mitsubishi outlander phev. Its rated at 38 miles per charge. Im constantly getting 45 with the regen. But it has a super slow on board charger. I like the Mazda
@@Brian_Eugene_Lee
Thanks for the support
I'll let you know when i have any problems
@@Brian_Eugene_Lee coz they are pretty reliable , I have colleagues with Mitsubishis clocking over 180k kilometers and not a single problem ( I am in Western Canada). I drive this Cx 90 myself but the Outlander was the only other alternative here, (price and practicality considered). Plus in Canada they provide insane warranties, look at their website!
I’m getting 41 ev miles on my cx-90 so far. Less than 1000 miles
wow! that's what iw as hoping for. Do you live somewhere warm, that isn't hilly, avoid highways, and drive conservatively?
I live in SC and the 4xe wrangler was rated at 21 miles of range but i routinely get 28.
If i put the heater on, drive over 50mph the range goes down considerably.
It was warm here in NY. I’ll see how to it perform when it gets cold
Great review with the range test . . I'm going to have to test drive one of these.
Does anyone know how long a charge lasts while driving in the hybrid mode? Let's say i drive 20 miles a day. How long before i have to charge it again? I have to rely on public charging.
Please do 2024 x5 e plug in
So when I purchased mine I drove it off the lot with 30 miles of charge on the battery. I have yet to get it back to that since like 2 weeks after I purchased it. I am assuming it is going off the average miles I drive, which is town miles. My full charge now is 17 miles. I am having to charge it every night and it wasn't like that at the beginning. Wondering if everyone else is having this issue or am I not doing something correctly? My app says it is fully charged every morning.
I have one as well. I think in my case the weather is cold and that decreases the battery efficiency. I expect mine to increase as the weather warms.
I only get about 1.3 miles per kwh what are other people seeing in all EV mode?
loved your video, buying my cx 90 phev in December!
Thanks! Congrats on your upcoming CX-90!
Fantastic video!😸
Thanks! Have a great weekend
It doesn't need to run 100% on electricity. When it's using the gas engine, it's still a hybrid. If the engine is on for 10% of your daily commute, you'd end up burning 93% less gasoline than if you had a gas model.
I was about to turn this off due to the amateur hour zoomies in the opening, but then I saw that fine UK logo and settled in.
Thanks for your very informative video! A couple of comments. I wonder how well the base PHEV will do because it has smaller/narrower tires. Toyota maximizes efficiency by installing really small and skinny tires on their HEVs and it is well known that all BEVs lose significant range if bigger wheels/tires are optioned. Thus, the base model is likely to add 10-15% of EV range and improve HEV mileage on already impressive numbers. On that note, do you plan to do a real world test on HEV mileage after the battery is depleted?
Thanks! We plan to talk about overall fuel economy in the upcoming Full Review
Did you have trouble remembering to move the gear shift to the left to put it back in park? I've heard other people say they are mistaking reverse for park.
It's unnatural feeling for the first few days but we adapted to it. It's harder if you switch between different kinds of cars frequently to rewire your brain
Im debating between this vehicle or the Santa Fe PHEV. As a person who just got fed up with my fuel mileage do to the fact that i do 90% city driving and like 20%of hard core bumper to bumper traffic I could benefit from a hybrid or PHEV( Full electric is out of the question becauee i travel once a year in a 3k mile trip where theres no charging stations (mexico).
I need some help as both vehicles i got offered the same deal.
My current Mazda CX5 im averaging 18-19 mpg.
I have the equivalent 22' Kia Sorento PHEV top of the line Prestige and I'm currently at 76 mpg! Sometime don't fill up for months since most of our commutes are 30 miles or less.
Just bought one and waiting for delivery! Also, C-A-T-S CATS CATS CATS!!!!
Congrats! And go Cats!
Great testing method. Pretty good video!
Thank you!
Great review guys!
Thanks!
THanks for the info guys, question for you both. My mazda cx-90 phev is set up to charge only 50%, how do i change so it can chargest to 100%? thank you.
You can find that in the vehicle settings in the infotainment system. Thanks!
I think manufacturers under rate now to beat epa standards as they are always working against each other
Awesome “ real world” test guys!
Thank you!
Can this be charged on the fast chargers at electrify america?
No
To bad, do models with memory seats remeber the side mirror settings as well?
Nice
Great video. Impressive hybrid SUV.
Thanks!
For a PHEV what matters is City Range. You will use gasoline for long trips.
All BEVs have enough City Range. What matters is how far will it go on the highway before needing to stop and charge.
Is the x5 50e on the agenda for this test?
We are hoping to find one to test soon
My Mazda tech can confirm Mazda does reserve battery for acceleration and what not even at 0 percent battery left
If you're vehicle reads 0% the actual reading is usually 10 - 15% (Mazda Master Tech)
Excellent SUV for young modern couples!
Is it apple carplay touchscreen
Yes
I did 33 miles ev on the freeway driving like an old grandma lol
56 MPGE excellent
I think its 14.8kwh usuable
Not bad for an overpriced Mazda.
Looking forward to when you do a range test on the BMW X5 xdrive 50e!
Shocked me!
Pure EV range is around 30 miles ? ! It's really really SHAMEFUL 🤣🤣🤣
Lynk & Co 08 EV mode is about 200km, total navigation range (electric+fuel) is about 1200 km.
They also only 5 passengers