Should You Buy 2024 Mazda CX-90 Plug In Hybrid? A Mechanic's Review
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- A Mechanic Reviews the 2024 Mazda CX-90 Plug In Hybrid. Should You Buy One?
In this video we take a look at the Latest Mazda CX-90 Plug In Hybrid.. We start with a proper technical review under the hood then underneath the car.
Then we look at the exterior and interior. Then we talk about some things we don't like about it.
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0:00 Intro
0:53 Under The Hood
18:25 Under The Car
23:20 Exterior and Interior
30:10 Things I Don't Like About It
32:40 Should You Buy One? 
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I leased one of these last week, and my wife, kids, and I love it. I did notice some of the "clunkiness" that you mentioned, but coming from driving a Prius v, the ride quality is much better overall. I'll tolerate the clunkiness. I haven't noticed it being overly loud, either, but maybe that's because I'm used to driving MHEVs and gas engines. I've gotten up to 32 miles on the electric motor, if I turn off climate control. After seeing you completely eviscerate the inline 6, I was almost afraid to watch this video, but now I'm glad I went with the CX-90 PHEV.
Bought our first Mazda last year ourselves. I had to say it is the nicest driving vehicle and interior quality car I have ever owned. If we ever need something else I will be going back again to this brand what nice cars.
I have a 2020 Mazda CX30 owned since brand new. It still drives like the day I drove it off the lot! @@jdub976
@@jdub976which Mazda did you get?
We ended up with the Mazda 3. Wife loves it.@@Nordestada
The same for me. I always be a fan of Honda but I drive pilot which drives like a wagon and this beautiful cx90 drives like a master.
Great review and hybrid system explanation. I recently took my CX-90 PHEV to a recall when Mazda improved the transition from EV to gas, and it works much better now.
When was this recall issued?
This channel is an absolute gem, this is exactly what tech-savvy peopleI want to know when buying a vehicle.
I dont think any other channel goes over the tech under the hood. Thanks for all your efforts.
I still think Honda does Hybrids the best, that e:HEV system is just so smooth.
Check out Savage Geese..I think you will be impressed.
BUT.......there is no one out there doing indepth technical reviews like this guy, and I hope he gets listened to by the car companies.
@@jeffreyjeziorski1480 Already subscribed to them :) Thanks anyway.
i love mazda they just keep improving
Mazda is still beautiful and timeless!
If you want to overtake frequently you should be driving in normal mode, the engine will be engaged instantly unlike in EV mode. The transmission is silky smooth unlike the L6 model.
This car is definitely a great step into the PHEV world for Mazda. There are still many things to improve, but for the price, it's one of the best large PHEV SUVs in the market.
I work on my own cars. Something breaks I take a week figure it out and repair it. AMD takes a week and figures out how any new model of car works. Very impressive sir. Thank you for the review these are my favorites.
Great review, AMD. As a Mazda owner, and former Toyota owner (though two of my sons drive Camrys and the other a 4Runner), I was hoping to hear that Mazda had used Toyota's plugin-hybrid tech. Still hoping that both manufacturers continue to grow the relationship and have a good "marriage". Thank you, AMD!
Nice car but wish it had more EV range. 26 is not enough, really needs to be in the 35-50 range.
I agree
If only they had a model between the size of the CX-50 and CX-90 with a polished version of this powertrain. Alas, the CX-70 is just a CX-90 with a rear seat delete and similar weight/efficiency...
Mine has been showing me 30-33mi on 80%. I avoid going below 20% or bout 7-8mi left. Enough to get me to and from work on a 30min commute each way. And level 2 charger takes it from around 20-30% up to 80% in bout 60-90min. I have been going 3wks on same tank of gas. I really wish it had 30-40 miles from 20-80% but that would require a bigger and heavier battery.
Drive slower
It's for emissions over anything else goofball
There is a software update for transmission. My car has very smooth shifting
Was the update OTA (Over the Air) or was it done at the dealer?
@@ztech-consulting I think dealer did it in their shop
Love this channel! Thank you for always sharing your knowledge and giving us such in depth information on vehicles.
This is the best car review channel out there. I feel like you are actually reviewing the car part of it all. It brings out the actual differences between brands and models. Great job man!
I don't experience the clunkiness or the slow transitioning.. i do occasionally get a "kick in the rear end feel" on low speed, EV only. I am bringing in for the transmission TSB.. remember its a first year model.
I do wish the range is more than 26 miles EV... could be the weight (PHEV is 5200lbs).. but comparable PHEV like the Jeep GC 4xe also only 26 mi EV range.. aren't many 3 row PHEV out there.
VERY detailed review of the engine/PHEV setup!
In real world use, "clunkiness" may not be a big deal for most. I think he is comparing to more mature hybrid brands that have put a lot more time into PHEV powertrain refinement.
The TCU update made the transmission feel much better and it even feels like it accelerates better in EV only.
Fantastic Review on the car. Thank you for not yelling at the camera and being extremely inforrmational. Fantastic!
Terrific must watch review by an expert not some car reviewer trying to get a free vacation to some exotic local on the manufacturer’s dime.
Thank you for the fantastic review! I'm eagerly anticipating the review of the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV 2024. I hope you'll include it in your future discussions and reviews.
The best car I’ve ever owned. Some quirks for sure, but overall an incredible car for the money.
This is the best technical breakdown of this vehicle I have seen. Great job! We leased a CX90 PHEV about six months ago, and we really do love it. I agree. The driveline system is a little clunky, but we live with it for the greater efficiency. I think it has gotten a little better learning our driving styles.
I hope Mazda listens to your feedback too, AMD. I love watching your car reviews. I am more interested in what's under the hood and servicability and how it drives. I'm in the market for a new family car and I really take your word into consideration. Keep it up!!!
Again another superb review by AMD, excellent!
My request is: please review the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.
Best regards!
Quite a few things I disagree.
1. the power switch is very smooth in normal mode, but in EV mode, you have to push to pass the kick point and there are a few seconds delay.
2. The transmission is also very smooth, it needs about 1k miles to learn your driving behavior, it smooths out after that range.
3. The shifter is actually fantastic, it may look strange in the beginning, but it only takes a day to get used to it. It will be better if it switches to P when you turn off the car.
4. You need to enable touch for 12.25" screen in setting and it only works in CarPlay and Android auto which is enough. I do hope they provide touch capability in 10.25" screen too. (Canadian model doesn't get 12.25" screen).
I do have a big complaint, when you switch to sport mode, it has a long delay to finish, and you will not get the power you want until then. Hope they will fix it. Of course, I wish it has longer EV range, but it works for me as I drive most in city.
You can see they save cost on minor details but considering the cost of the car, it's not an issue.
I have the car for over 6 months, absolutely loves it. I park my Cayenne in garage most time now. I have only only filled up gas tank once in 6 month, saving me at least CA$250/month.
The gas mileage only apply in the warmer weather. In the winter still need to fill up often. Summer is great, as you said, very good on gas.
@@BrianDIYChannel It depends on your daily routing. I work from home and only drive to carry kids and grocery shopping. It's about 27KM EV range in winter but is still enough for me. Once I get back home I charge again.
Still sounds like you're more getting used to the car than the other way around. Not saying its a bad car, but car reviewers usually have a broader experience than consumers. So relatively they might be harsher. The dual clutches also most likely means more maintenance down the line, if you're planning on owning it.
also you really need to get gas more often than that, go on a minor road trip like once a month. old gas will kill your engine faster than anything but bad engineering
@@The_Noticer. it’s not a dual clutch and it’s not get used to your car, it’s know your car, wether it’s cx90 or any other car.
I've been waiting for this review!
Me too after seeing the inline 6 review which was totally germanish mechanically. Hopefully this is built simple like a japan product.
I was looking for this review yesterday and was disappointed there wasn't one. But I was pleasantly surprised to see it today!
13:30 Your press vehicle might not have the TCU updates. It’s not jarring unless you’re trying to drive in EV only mode and then floor it to engage the motor. If you’re driving in Normal mode it’s way more fluid and uses EV until X amount of throttle pressure. If you drive it in Sport mode it’s fluid.
Really great review! Would also be great to see you driving the car
Great channel, very informative.
My wife leased one of these and loves it. She went from a Volvo XC90 refueling almost every week to now refueling every 3 1/2 months. Yes, I noticed those engine transition he mentions here but she doesn’t care.
Excellent explanation as always but we found this to be way more refined than expected. Of course you could catch the system off guard but for the most part transitions were pretty seamless. Slow speed parking lots are when you could tell some things were transitioning but in most driving you could hardly tell. Sport mode was the real surprise. With MPGs low priority the gas engine stays on and with the electric assist the car is lively and fun to drive. While you may save some on gas if you charge, your charging costs and real world ev range may neutralize any pump savings. Great mechanical overview. But again, we found this much more refined than many reviewers have reported.
Great review. Once again as a guy who works on his own vehicles I I’m appreciate your channel so much. It is giving me the insight to make sound buy decisions. I really love how this car looks but I just can’t get behind any of the powertrain decisions they made. Looks like I’m going with the CX nine.
Brilliant review thanks.
Thank you to reviews the Mazda CX-90 PHEV, I have been looking forward for this “mecanic” reviews for a while.
As usual, you have done a great reviews ! 😊
Great review! Could you do reviews on entry level cars like The Mirage? Loved your review on the Nissan Versa.
I applaud Mazdas take and find this car very special as well. Looking forward if you have a chance to review Mitsubishi’s take on the Outlander PHEV.
@21:09 I believe you used the word packaging in context of finished product of car for the first time in your video.
That is how you are improving the quality of you content. Keep it up.
Been seeing them on the road lately, and damn do they look good 😎
Will keep this on my short list for MY2025/6 maybe.
GJ! Pls review more Nissans especially the Sentra, the Leaf and the X-trail. Also the Toyota Yaris. Appreciated!
I'm a fan of Mazda! I was introduced to them in 2018 when my daughter's old Honda Odyssey van got t-boned so they totaled it. She wanted a Nissan Roque but I found a nicely used 2016 Mazda CX-5 at my Toyota dealership. What a great car for DIY's to work on...even the transmission service wasn't a big job! (She traded it in for a 2021 Hyundai Palisade last year so I'm, still, undecided on that thing!! :-)
Another great video
Some RUclips reviewers found that the first press cars were jerky, but after the software update was rolled out, the PHEV was touted to be smoother than the in-line 6!
Eagerly waiting for LX TX PHEV in-depth review. Specifically on the heat pump, looking to heat the cabin in chicago winters without opening garage door.
Mazda is on a roll, great looks, nice interiors and modern tech. I've had a 06 (ford based) 6, a 15 6 (manual) and currently a 17 6 (auto), all have been excellent with the exception of the ford v6 oil leaks (front timing and valve coves). the 2.5 has been an excellent engine as has been the mazda designed 6 spd auto. The 15 manual was not my cup of tea and I grew to dislike it enough to trade to an Auto. Currently sitting just under 70K on the 17 and not a single issue to be had. no leaks, no oil consumption and good mpg.
Own a 2016 and a 2021 cx5. Great vehicles, no complaints. Plan on keeping each til 250k miles
Thank you, Car Care Nut (would be better to address by name though :)) I'm glad you did this review, based on the other reviews this car is almost perfect! I actually called to your shop and left a message to ask you to do this review :) Thanks again!!! I have mazda 3 2013 and I also have "clunkiness" on low speeds (looks like a family issue). It bothers a little but I rarely use 'low speeds' :))))) But! I LOVE my mazda even though I rented many cars, mazda is one of the best, I love it more than our Lexus RX350...
so just say AMD ?
I have owned my 2024 CX-90 PHEV for about 5 months now. I can say that the electric motor (in my opinion) is not that loud but I actually love the sound it makes and I love hearing the shifting gears but with an electric sound instead of mechanical sound. It definitely CAN be clunky but I feel like it has gotten less clunky over time. I do wish it got more than 26 miles range and that is mostly because I have never seen more than 23. But with a 220 outlet and 40 amp charger now installed, its less of an issue to me. We absolutely love this car. Definitely less storage than our caravan but still pretty good. And it turns heads too which is always nice.
Very interesting review. Could you please review Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV
On the sound issue... there are reports that pedestrians are being hurt in higher numbers by EV's than ICEV's - in part because of the silence of the EV. Mazda is a safety oriented company - so I"d suggest that the electric motor noise could help to mitigate this risk.
Finally the CX90 PHEV! Thanks A7med!
12.5" is touch screen for Android Auto and Car Play. Non touch for the Mazda native UI
Infiniti Q50 hybrid has two clutches a wet and dry clutch. The dry clutch is to engage and disengage the motor from the transmission. The wet clutch is use to change ratios/gears in the transmission. The electric motor is where a normal torque converter is usually located.
Hey Buddy, I really like what you are making on this channel so could you please make one review on Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV ? I would really appreciate it. Thanks!
Sounds just like the hybrid system at Lexus it's very nice to have that recharge option
Sounds like it's not nearly as smooth as the Lexus version, albeit Toyota and Lexus have been refining it for many years now.
@@ytj22agree my Toyota crown does it’s smoothly
Thank you so much for your concise teachings AMD. Do you think going PIH is really worth the supposed gas savings and the inconvenience of charging? I ask this because of the electric rates I see here in NY. Not to mention the higher costs of buying PL IN Hybrids vs their Hybrid counterparts.
There should be a setting in the infotainment center to change to touch screen vs knob only. There may also be a setting in there to unlock front doors vs all doors.
MSRP ranges from $48,000 to $56,000 depending on trim level. MPG is mid 20s on gasoline, low 50s highway running as hybrid, per the EPA.
I've owned the PHEV version of the CX-90 for a few months now (about 13,000 km) and only experienced the "jarring" effect of the transmission once. Other than that it's been very smooth and just as good as my old 2011 BMW X5 Diesel. I towed my trailer (2600 lbs) to Florida and back with it and it performed fine. Since I couldn't charge the battery during the trip I kept the engine in Charge mode most of the time so I'd have enough power when I needed it. This resulted in about 13.2 litres/100 km mileage. The BMW diesel was better than this.. 12.5 litres/100 km.
I agree. Drove lexus 450H+, Rav4 Prime, .. this looks significantly nicer than all of them. But clunckly feeling is a bit turn off.
Looking forward for your review of 2024 Hyundai Santa Fe
Mazda is an engineering-oriented company. They’ll get it figured out.
They remind me of Lotus of old. Neat stuff.
Can you review the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV?
This drive system seems like the 2023 KIA Sportage that I bought in Mar 2023. There is no clunking going from EV to ending start. In fact, most times I can't tell that the engine started ! I am very pleased with it. I would like to watch a review of the KIA.
Can you please add the Price and Horsepower of the vehicle you are testing, always good to know right off the bat. Thank you and keep up the great videos.
AMD, As the former owner of an extremely humble 323 hatch, I will be very interested to see how Mazda's move into the world of 'premium' cars unfolds over the next few years. 🤔 One thing is for sure, my 4 on the floor 323 shifted gears much more smoothly than this luxury model. 😉
I would love to see the Honda Ridgeline V6 reviewed-PLEASE!
I bought a CX-90 inline 6. I get average 34 miles per gallon. Inline 6 is simpler than Plug-in hybrid, it should last longer.
Great review! Finally. One thing I wish it had was the 2.5T engine. The low end torque when low battery is not enough for such a big car.
He was mistaken, it is the 2.5T from the CX9. That's how it still makes over 300 hp
@@gingercap4803 it’s not. I am the owner the phev. It’s the NA 2.5 with no turbo.
There are 2 systems that make sense to me in the hybrid phev world.
1-The Alpha Romeo/Dodge hornet R/T phev setup.
2-The Nissan E-Power setup.
Both are very simple, easy to diagnose and service and super straightforward concept.
Does it have a sway bar? Your inline 6 review pointed it didn't have one. Does this have one? I believe in having a sway bar for how the car handles.
Can you do a review on Mitsubishi outlander phev
Sorry idk if I missed it but what would the mpg be with the hybrid system turned "on" vs it turned "off"?
I know nothing about hybrids and am in the same boat about how unique the cx90 is.
I’m waiting for the CX-70 PEHV, which will be the same but two rows and I think they will fix all the issues that you mentioned in this video.
If you are an absolute Mazda fan, I would say lease the CX-90 and buy the the 2027 year model.
It will be soooooooo refined, I promise.
The inline 6 is less complicated than the PHEV. Not sure where that came from…
A timing chain being in the back is literally the only “complication” in an otherwise super simple engine.
How would you compare this to Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV 2023 and later.?
I've had some rough shifting occasionally because the transmission uses a single wet clutch instead of a torque converter. However, the car transitions very smoothly between electric only to hybrid if I'm not explicitly driving in the ev drive mode. So, I don't know where the emphasis on the rough engine transition is coming from in this video.
Get the TCU update at your dealership.
Please also review Volkswagen electric models such as ID4, 5 and 7
Hyundai and Kia have also a gear transmission on their PHEV. Is it the same thing for the use of the electric motor and the transmission then this Mazda.
You think a computer update could fix the clunkiness? I really like the looks too and a PHEV is on our list. Im going to try to test drive one of these soon.
Love this show!
We are interested in the Mazda CX-90 PHEV. We like the Mazda’s interior, efficiency and that it offers a better than avg SUV driving experience. As pointed out in this review,however, when it first came out the engine was not fully baked, a little clunky and glitchy. Is this something that can be fixed by over the air updates? Or, are these issues that are more likely to be addressed through engineering fixes between model years (and, therefore, should we wait to see what the 2025 has to offer)? Or, is the engine (and performance) that came out with the launch of the CX-90 2024 mostly what we should expect? Finally, if the over-the-air updates are significant - should we be asking dealerships to be sure their cars are fully updated before we test drive one?
Thanks for your help!
34:55 Isn't that kind of how the German PHEVs have been doing it for a while? With the electric motor working through the transmission as well? I feel like that's not new or groundbreaking, unless I'm missing some aspect of the implementation.
Carcarenut please do a review on the nissan frontier. Thank you!
Might as well pretend the 3rd row isn't there and review the CX-70 as well!
Two birds with one stone hehe
I got this model when my cx-5 went in for service. It is an amazing car but also experienced chunkiness and didn’t feel as solid as my cx-5
my CX 90 keep having issues with bluetooth connecting to Android phone. Every time when I try to connect the my phone, the car monitor screen goes black and freezes. is this a known issue? mine is CX 90 turbo s premium plus version
Seems the challenge is getting your hands on a PHEV at a good price. Although without govt incentives, PHEVs aren't (yet??) really as desirable a technology as regular hybrids. Maybe works for big cities
I wish they would re-design the rear end. It just looks off compared to the front-end.
Nope, looks great from every angle :)
Since both this vehicle in its 6 cyl and hybrid form can compare with a Toyota 4runner Limited or SR5 with 7 seats - which one would you all recommend in terms of ease of ownership?
Love the Metallica choice on the radio!
I noticed it too, good job Car Care Nut! And not just any song but one of their best, The Call of Ktulu!
You mentioned once that , if you don't drive much, owning a hybrid can be a bad idea because the hybrid's battery will degrade with low use and give you problems down the road. Is this also true with PHEVs? Do they have a "battery tender" function for the hybrid battery if you leave them plugged in which would prevent that?
For some time now I have thought that the most reliable version for this platform is the CX-60 with the Skyactiv-G 2.5 [PY-VPS] which is mainly sold in Japan and other Asian countries; with the only defect of being the one with the lowest power (HP)
I'd love to see this powertrain crammed into a CX5 as a way to get rid of the turbo 4. Redo the dash and reintroduce a tunnel in the cabin, from front to back to make it sit and fit.
Love the covered catalytic converter, everyone should be doing that. The clunky driving, goofy shifter, conventional transmission (maybe some people would love that, I like eCVTs just fine) & transfer case to maintain, mediocre thermal systems, etc would completely turn me off. EV range is pretty poor too, it's almost not worth having unless you make really short trips between places it can be charged. Coming up on two year wait for Rav4 Prime so I guess I need to look at other PHEVs at some point.
Nice listening to good metallica the 80's metallica
The only Metallica as far as I'm concerned! 🤘
@@AWMJoeyjoejoe same those are the best years by far
X in Mazda stand for Experimental. I leased the PHEV instead of buying. If Mazda refines it more in 2 years I might consider buying one.
Hi AMD, Kindly review 2024 Mitsubishi Outlander
Crap! Avoid.
Love the looks! But my CX-60 design is still not completely fixed by Mazda. Still has issues... So the CX-90 probably has the same issues.
Good point on the clunkiness. I have the same exact issue with my 23 Grand Cherokee Overland Plug-in. I am very disappointed. I love the car very much, hate that concept. I will never lease one again. Either V6 or fully EV, one day. Not going to happen.
Would u ever talk about a gm brand? Checolet/gm/ buick suv?
Can you feature the Mitsubishi Outlander 2024 PHEV?
I have one of these, and I am curious about break-in times...In the past, it was recommended to drive 1000k before redlining an ICE. In this car you have no idea how many of the miles are driven in EV mode vs ICE. Given that it is direct injected and has a risk of carbon build up, when can I do an "Italian tune-up"?
Can you please do a review for the Elantra N