Everyone is missing what Bond did in this scene ! When Bond was handed the PPK, he only pretended to put it away, then as he took his hand out of his jacket and back down to his side, he actually had the PPK hidden behind his hand. He used is 007 slight of hand to pocket the 418, he then slipped the PPK under the box to make it seem as if he was attempting to sneak the 418 out that way, knowing full well M would ask for it back. He gave back the PPK, M did not glance once, he was absent
James Bond originally used a Beretta 418 until a fan of the novels (and small arms expert) wrote to Ian Flemming criticizing it as "a woman's gun". When Flemming had Bond switch to his iconic Walther PPK in Dr. No, he wrote the fan into the scene as MI6's armorer
And that’s the moment the Walther PPK sales went through the roof. I own three Walther. The PP in .380. That was my dad’s. It stays home. I have a PPK/S in .380 in stainless and a P99 in 9mm. Some of the best guns I own.
@@tonycampo1325 I carried a Glock 22 for 16 years after my department switched from Smith & Wesson. I also own a Glock 36 , a Glock 23, and a Glock 42. Maybe I’m the exception. I’ve had good luck with both brands.
I carry a PPK everyday and as a back up to my 226 on the job. Is a Glock more practical? Yeah probably. But if anyone says a Glock has style they are lying.
"Managing" spies and knowing anything at all about field-craft are two completely different things... Talk to some of the people who have to put up with some of their boss's orders (as I recall Aldrich Ames' first supervisor thought he was a failure as a field officer so they made Ames a manager). PS - Every day Ames was a double agent he fooled his boss's...how many years was it?
I remember watching Dr No at the cinema as a child, it seems like yesterday but that was nearly 60 years ago. Time flys but no one has come close to Sean Connery James Bond.
In the Fleming novels, Bond’s Beretta is significantly modified by him to be as concealable as possible. His reluctance to give it up is understandable
I'm saying if you have a pocket pistol in 1962, and gave you a choice between .32 ACP or .25 ACP which would you prefer? You can have a .22 LR and if you train like crazy you can be deadly with it. I'm just saying a choice between a .25 ACP with 50 grain Bullet at 760 ft/sec, vs. 32 ACP with a minimum 60 grain bullet and 925 to 1100 ft. per second. Which would you want? Any calibre can be deadly. Just getting any edge in Bond's profession I think would be advantageous.
Yeah, played here by Peter Burton. Desmond Llewelyn was actually a replacement because Burton was unavailable for "From Russia with love". The rest is history.
It's interesting to note that Bond pushed the Beretta back towards M on his desk with the muzzle pointing towards the recipient, a subtle mark of contempt or dissatisfaction?
To be fair, the Beretta in question was a .25 ACP and had a much shorter barrel length. So it actually is a fairly significant upgrade in both power and velocity. The novel and the film for Dr. No were set in a time before modern, polymer 9mm sub compacts after all.
@@oddish4352 A .32 is sufficient when you can shoot the nuts off a flea at 100 yards firing a double action semi with 2 1/2 inch barrel and iron sights.
@@ijustawannaprivicie8031 Except no .32 pistol will shoot that accurately. From a rest, 3 inch groups at 25 yards are more realistic. That's just due to loose tolerances in the barrel or action, and individual differences in the cartridges. With a good gun, you can reliably hit a man in the chest at 50 yards. Anything beyond that, you should probably use a rifle.
Fleming did steal his Browning .25 , issued to him, at wars end, it was part of his estate . Fleming later hinted that the gun was his father's, however the gun issued was manufactured after his Father's death in WW I ... I suspect Fleming wrote this scene in part based on what would have happened had he been caught, with his issue Browning .25, by his superior...
Great scene a true british masterpiece I seen it for the first time with my dad in London when it first came out. Iam now 63 oh my how times have changed who remembers the lady walking around the seats with a tray of sweets and snacks good times . ( Thinking of you Dad )❤❤
Any gun will get the job done and that goes for the bullet caliber as well. Some rounds are more effective. Having said, neither gun or bullet will do you any good if you can't shoot.
Yeah, stopping power doesn't seem like an issue for Bond. He's not hunting deer and he's skilled enough to get the job done even with a smaller caliber. But still, we all have to evolve with the changing times.
@Frank Sinatra If you can get the target to cooperatively sit still while you shoot him through the brainstem, yeah, any bullet will do. But in a real life gunfight, I'd rather have 17 9mm bullets at my command than eight .32's.
.25 really is a terrible and unreliable caliber. Even .22 is better. The Walther did come in .380, quite a step up from .32. The idea that a .32 hits hard is laughable, but of course any gun can kill you. If trouble is brewing, I want a shotgun.
@@oklahomahank2378 The P99 that Brosnan used was a 9mm and held 17 shots. It was infinitely superior to both the Beretta (trash) and the PPK (a decent backup gun).
I love how M doesn't look up when he tells Bond to "leave the Beretta" it's like he knew he would try to pull a fast one, and he wasn't the least bit surprised.
+betatalk357 You nailed it. Lot of people tend to not realize that at the time there really were no small concealable semi autos in a caliber larger than .380. Once you go to 9mm luger, you step into the realm of full size handguns. A .32 to the head would do the job just fine (though it is quite amusing imagining Bond use a full size .44 magnum, oh wait Live and Let Die)
That's not the case at all. If you have any knowledge of ballistics you will see that our development of different powder burn rates, bullet design, experimentation of different cartridge sizes to get the most efficient output and change in warfare styles have all dictated the shift in calibers. Sure the older stuff can work, but it is by no means equal or better than the modern stuff.
This is the .32 ACP version...NOT the .380 "7.65 mil" CLEARLY spoken by the armorer is .32 ACP .32 has good penetration but little tissue disruption. Modern fluted solid .380 bullets can be devastating to soft tissue. Lehigh and Underwood .380 ammo is amazing.
Well, M said it jammed, and Bond spent half a year recovering from surgery as a consequence. Gun manufacturers make or break their reputation on combat reliability. A gun that jams even once in normal use isn't tolerated for regular police and military, let alone a spy like Bond. Beretta spent a lot of money redesigning their pistols for the United States Army. Slides that cracked, magazines that jammed, sand and dust problems, etc.
In the books, the reason he had to give up the Beretta is because it got stuck in his holster in From Russia With Love. We see that scene in the movie version. But the books were filmed out of order. At the end of the book, Dr. No, Bond considered writing a flippant note to the armorer about the Walther PPK being ineffective against an armored vehicle with a flamethrower.
The holster Bond was using with the Beretta was a soft pouch of Chamois not a hard sided holster. The Berns Martin holster was for revolvers only but had a molded semi hard form. later autoloader Bianchi holsters followed the same idea as do modern Galco holsters.
except he used a .38 s and w airweight against the swamp dragon not the walther.oddly fleming changes his gun due to fans protests especially boothroyd who was an armourer in oss during the war.yet a look at actual operatives pistols from the imperial war museum shows they almost exclusively used .25 self loaders like the beretta.they used heavier weapons on specific missions obviously but a small pistol was quiet easily concealed much easier to dispose of if searched and intended not as an attack weapon but purely for defense at very close range or even self destruction.an ideal spies weapon.the walther in the clip is not milled for a supressor and if used like the fn substituted for it later with the silencer screwed into the rifling would blow your hand off ! why they never gave bond the same size but more powerful .380 ppk is a mystery.oddly the very reason cited for changing the gun ie jamming was a constant problem on the bond set.in from russia with love during the gypsy fight connery is seen recycling it by hand after every shot.
I agree. I own the .380 version. It's a nice small CC handgun. I think back then an MI operative needed a somewhat small profile gun as he carried it with him always. Remember Bond was an expert shooter, so it was assumed his placement was key :)
That is the trade-off with firearms.......smaller concealed guns tend to be of smaller caliber. A full size gun could probably be carried under a tuxedo, but not comfortably.
+Masa Back when women were women and not hard core man hating feminists. Like 80% of them are today. Courtesy of Oprah Winfrey telling them for 30 fucking years that they don't need a man and their kids don't need a father. Feminism has caused more destruction in America than all the guns ever produced.
I'm going back to the novels on this one. "From Russia With Love" came immediately before "Doctor No". Furthermore, "From Russia With Love" was intended to kill off Bond, since at the end Col. Klebb did succeed in poisoning him, so the novel ends with him seeing the others rushing to his aid as he lost consciousness. The subsequent novel "Doctor No" began with M taking away Bond's preferred Beretta, citing its not having saved his life.
IIRC he had Bond equipped with two new guns, one of them the Walther; I forget what the other was, and why it was issued. Bond was then ordered to go and get them "fired in".
A well known WWII favorite. Berreta had a great reputation until cheap copy’s ruined the market. Walther PPK was the little version...from an even darker SAS purpose...German personal pocket protection. Also very reliable. British adopted most other guns.
- Updated for 2021- M: "Yes, I thought so. This damned hand cannon again. You tell him, Armorer." Q: "Too big to conceal, too heavy, loud as a howitzer, not enough rounds." Bond: "I've used the Deshert Eagle for ten years, sir. And I've never mished with it yet."
Actually if you look at the engineering, there really isn't all that great stuff about german firearms. They tend to have a high part count which leads to higher maintenance and cost. If you look at modern German firearms, they have abandoned the original roller lock and burst fire trigger groups for more American/Russian style forms. I think the leaders of small arms are probably Americans, Russians, and Chinese.
first time i watched this, couldnt help but think to myself "the guns look really wimpy" then i realised that was the point, easily concealed, perfect for someone who works in the shadows
The early Bond films were much more faithful to the original novels by Ian Fleming which had little action in them. As the years went on, the series started to go its own way and not follow the source material by adding a bunch of action set pieces.
Far better for eveything, we were about to have the worst winter since 1649, but the explosion of creativity and satire with the Beatles and That Was The week, plus Tom Jones in the cinema etc etc. Golden days indeed, everyone worked no benefits dependant class and we had a core culture. How it could make one weep for our loss of freedom.
Fleming ran off with his issue .25 Browning, at wars end. Just like in this scene. The gun wound up in his estate. Gun could have been a Colt ,.25 1908, serial number matches, or a FN, 1906, basically the same gun ...
Goldfinger. 1. Aston Martin 2. Oddjob 3. Pussy Galore 4. Ft. Knox 5. Royal and Ancient 6. Rolex 7. Fountainbleau Miami 8. Rolls Royce Phantom II gold plated 9. Ejector seat 10.Scrap yard How can that be beat?
There were very few small autos in those days, and tbe PPK and PP were nice and flat. Relatively light too, for being all steel (alloy frames were still a pretty new idea, starting with the Colt Commander in 1949). For a small auto, 32 or maybe 380 were the choices back then. Remember how in The Man From UNCLE a few years later, they used customized cut down P-38's? And in the 70's the ASP conversion of the S&W 39 was big? Again, because of the lack of compact autos in 9mm and above. That started to change in the late 70's and early 80's with the Detonics and the Star PD (both 45's) and later on things like the S&W 3913 (preceded by the 469 in the 80's). In fact, Bond used an ASP in the first couple of John Gardner novels in the 80's. He also had a Ruger Redhawk in a hidden compartment of his Saab for heavy dury needs.......
M may seem a bit cold and distant with Bond in the earlier days but make no mistake, he did, in his own way, care for 007. The novels often show that M would grow somewhat worried about Bond when he hadn't heard from him in the field, though upon Bond's arrival he'd snap right back into that ex Royal Navy cold as steel exterior. I have a boss just like Bernard Lee's M.
The fact that he said there was a 40% reduction in double O casualties during his tenure is his fatherly way of subtly stating, "I've grown rather fond of you, & really prefer not see you get killed, old chap.".:)
Mike, I think at that time the .32 was more common than the .380. And in the book, James Bond was a pistol expert so his shot placements were supposedly excellent.
7.65x25 is one heck of a Cartridge! Designed for use in the Mauser C93 - affectionately known as the "Broomhandle Mauser" and used by Han Solo as his Blaster - this 7.65mm round came screaming out of the barrel of that Walther PPK a heckuva' lot faster than the .380 with a fireball as BIG as a Cantaloupe!!! 😆
@@mickthegeek875 They're great, until the slide breaks and hits you in the face. ;p lol. J/K, I give friends crap about that all the time. It's been a long time since I shot one(and I think the civvy one is just "92FS"), IIRC, that's the gun where CCW people covert the safety to a decocker. Kind of a nice option to have.
Beretta 418: 25 ACP, 9 shots. Walther PPK: 32 ACP, 8 shots. Walther P99: 9mm, 17 shots. I know what I'd choose. For the PPK, I'd trade up to 380 and pack it for backup.
@@phoenixmichaels in the hands of an expert like Bond is portrayed, either will do the job with ease. There were no mini 9mm, .40 or .45 pistols the size of the PPK back then. .32, .380 and .38 Special were as good as it got in the concealed carry game back then. .38 Special was and still is relatively hard to come by outside of the United States with a few exceptions and revolvers, with the exception of the Russian Nagant, usually cannot be suppressed. Bond cannot always rely on MI6 for resupply of ammunition so that leaves .32 and .380. Both calibers then and today can be found nearly anywhere on Earth with minimal fuss as a lot of countries forbid the sale of "military calibers", ruling out even .380 in some countries back then, not so much nowadays. One of the first tenents of espionage is not to attract attention.
@@RedEyePergo Bond DID use weapons like this when called for. He was issued a .44 magnum in Moonraker. This scene was about the gun he would carry ALL the time. It is harder to conceal a 1911 or a full-sized revolver; not to mention the added weight. Even a pocket revolver would mean fewer rounds and either slower reloading one at a time or carrying bulky speed loaders.
James Bond (Sean Connery) is assigned a 7.65 mm "Walther PPK" by M, ordering him to hand over his Beretta (which M accuses of being underpowered, despite the 1934's Italian 9mm Corto being superior to the replacement PPK's 7.65mm chambering; this is a relic from the novel, where the Beretta in question was, as noted below, chambered in .25ACP). However in the film he actually uses a longer-barreled Walther PP chambered in .380 ACP (same as carried by the Metropolitan Police in 1961). Felix Leiter (Jack Lord) also carries a Walther PP, even though he's a CIA agent and, according to M, would use the PPK.
One of my first guns was a Walther PP-Super, originally made for the German Polizei. I still have it- an odd caliber (9x18), but sweet piece, accurate and gorgeous. And now that there is hollow point ammo for it, a much better round overall.
A 7.62mm is a .32ACP. Stopping power? What a joke. I used to work in a gun shop and I've had customers ask for a 7.62 cuz it "goes through a window like a brick." I would pull out a .45 ACP hollowppint then pull out a .32 and place the .32 into the nose cavity of thr .45. The customer saw the error of his ways.
Bond Handed in a 25 acp. originally He got a new 32.acp.PPK. I Have a n.i.b. from 1967 This came out in 1962, Had to get one from the day I saw it.Great movie Great little guns.
1:30 - A gunsmith friend of mine once told me that you never 'slap' a magazine into the butt of a semi-automatic like this, as the violent 'slap' can easily deform the top of the magazine and affect round delivery - just saying...
Don't get an older PPK. Buy the PPK/S which changed the rear portion so produce LESS slide bite. If you hold the gun proper you won't get bite. Also, if you have really BIG hands you may have a problem but I don't think so. Second, mine hasn't jammed and I haven't heard any jamming. Keep your gun clean and use good ammo and you should be fine.
Yes, shot placement is a very important factor. I always tell someone whom I teaching to shoot that it's better to hit with a 22 than miss with a 44. Having said that, I would still prefer a heavier, larger caliber bullet than a small one. I have a PPK/S in 380acp as well, it's a very nice little gun and quite accurate at close distances. Modern 380acp ammo has some fairly good choices of self defense ammo available to the public.
perfect double entendre' for Moneypenny "the old coot wants you to keep hold of my guns box, Moneypenny." This movie is a classic and even back then, in the 60's, people thought it was timeless.
The Beretta was the proper concealed weapon for a secret agent to carry. Fleming had it correct and Boothroyd screwed it up with this German Walther nonsense. The Beretta was the gun of James Bond.
Bah! In .25? Good in a ladies handbag or for an ambush, but nothing to fight with. With a good hit .32 ball will reach your spine with devestating consequences, merrily perforating everything in between.
@chrismc410 .380 a bit more powerful, but he said plate glass window, 1 pane. They didn't have double/triple paned windows like today LOL. I have the .380 PPK/S. It's a nice conceal and carry. Remember these guns were for close combat. Bond was a spy/assassin, others have commented about this here. As always, thanks for the comments and thumbs up on the video. It's Bond's 50th anniversary, they released the new blu ray set recently, and SkyFall in a few weeks!
M: "007...just leave the Beretta."
Bond: :(((
Lol XD
That look on Connery's face! What a good actor!
Bond looks like such a child in that shot, I love it.
Everyone is missing what Bond did in this scene ! When Bond was handed the PPK, he only pretended to put it away, then as he took his hand out of his jacket and back down to his side, he actually had the PPK hidden behind his hand. He used is 007 slight of hand to pocket the 418, he then slipped the PPK under the box to make it seem as if he was attempting to sneak the 418 out that way, knowing full well M would ask for it back. He gave back the PPK, M did not glance once, he was absent
@@callsignsheik You're reaching. The vid is unclear and doesn't show what you're saying happened.
James Bond originally used a Beretta 418 until a fan of the novels (and small arms expert) wrote to Ian Flemming criticizing it as "a woman's gun". When Flemming had Bond switch to his iconic Walther PPK in Dr. No, he wrote the fan into the scene as MI6's armorer
His name was Geoffrey Boothroyd
He also informed Ian Fleming the Berns-Martin shoulder holster was incorrect because it was only made for revolvers!
xreturnwthhonorx HOW DO YOU KNOW ALL THAT?!
The Guns of James Bond short clip with mr Boothroyd tells the story .
MrPh30 Well, it's true: "...you learn something new every day!"
And that’s the moment the Walther PPK sales went through the roof. I own three Walther. The PP in .380. That was my dad’s. It stays home. I have a PPK/S in .380 in stainless and a P99 in 9mm. Some of the best guns I own.
the Glock 43x is way more reliable. I have both. the walther jams and you know it.
@@tonycampo1325 I carried a Glock 22 for 16 years after my department switched from Smith & Wesson. I also own a Glock 36 , a Glock 23, and a Glock 42. Maybe I’m the exception. I’ve had good luck with both brands.
I have the PPK/S in .380. and a concealed carry permit
I carry a PPK everyday and as a back up to my 226 on the job. Is a Glock more practical? Yeah probably. But if anyone says a Glock has style they are lying.
@@TobyPitcairnGlocks are work horses nothing more nothing less. The Wather PP/PPKS is Class…..
LOL, Bond trying to fool his boss -- a guy who manages spies all day, everyday.
It would be unprofessional to not give it a go.
And said boss invented half the scams Bond tries here
"Managing" spies and knowing anything at all about field-craft are two completely different things... Talk to some of the people who have to put up with some of their boss's orders (as I recall Aldrich Ames' first supervisor thought he was a failure as a field officer so they made Ames a manager).
PS - Every day Ames was a double agent he fooled his boss's...how many years was it?
@@aplato8576 one boss, two bosses*, their bosses' * orders ...
M probably was like Bond in his younger days.
I remember watching Dr No at the cinema as a child, it seems like yesterday but that was nearly 60 years ago. Time flys but no one has come close to Sean Connery James Bond.
Is your name Rip Van... sorry, know what you mean, time flies , make the most of it
Connery's near-silent performance in those last 20 seconds exudes more charisma and personality than almost any actor I can think of.
Absolute class
I like how he has some sort of sentimental attachment to his Beretta. Its like he lost his partner. But the PPK will cheer him up eventually.
It is a tool and what somebody likes. Not necessarily always the best.
In the Fleming novels, Bond’s Beretta is significantly modified by him to be as concealable as possible. His reluctance to give it up is understandable
Yes, “cheer him up”, nicely put!
I'd prefer the Beretta too.
@@jackwoods535 I'm talking about the one they are using in the film not the 418.
The entire scene is pure class, right down to the body language.
What class are you at school
Stfu
@@jaylinstpierre9141 what is said *pure class* and I thinking what class he is in at school if he goes to school
@@MarioFan-ht5hi stfu
you tacky man
"Nice And Light... In
A Lady's Hand Bag."
The novel says he carried a Beretta 418 in .25 ACP, its under 6" long, so extremely easy to conceal, but yes that would be very underpowered.
I'm saying if you have a pocket pistol in 1962, and gave you a choice between .32 ACP or .25 ACP which would you prefer? You can have a .22 LR and if you train like crazy you can be deadly with it. I'm just saying a choice between a .25 ACP with 50 grain Bullet at 760 ft/sec, vs. 32 ACP with a minimum 60 grain bullet and 925 to 1100 ft. per second. Which would you want? Any calibre can be deadly. Just getting any edge in Bond's profession I think would be advantageous.
Sean Connery. Pure class act. No question he was the best Bond ever.
❤he is Bond
Receives gun that the American CIA swears by, six years later he's the only man known to carry such a weapon by S.P.E.C.T.R.E.
Those Yankees and their Colts :)
I think the armorer was referring to the silencer not the gun .
chinablue who POSSIBLY.
I am so glad someone besides me noticed this.
Yes, I think you are right, he meant the silencer not the Walther itself. BTW M looks kinda like Caroll O'Connor.
RIP Sean Connery 1930-2020. The best Bond of all...xxx
Can't beat the early Bond films, though they were made in a different world!
"Thank you Major Boothroyd." So, that is Q, technically.
Yeah, played here by Peter Burton. Desmond Llewelyn was actually a replacement because Burton was unavailable for "From Russia with love". The rest is history.
@@kuribayashi84 Desmond Llewellyn's dad was the first person ever to own a Bentley. Silly useless but true fact for you there.
License to kill not get killed, greatest boss in the world.. genuinely telling bond for his own good.. pure class..
In Italy the Italian dubbing deleted the word Beretta using the word "pistola"
The father son dynamic is excellently played out here, I loved the part where he tells him to take his jacket off.
"just leave the Beretta".🤣
M to James Bond:
"Take the gun. Leave the Beretta".
I understood that reference!
Cannoli.
It's interesting to note that Bond pushed the Beretta back towards M on his desk with the muzzle pointing towards the recipient, a subtle mark of contempt or dissatisfaction?
Bond preferred the Beretta
"Take the gun, leave the gun."
"The berretta has no stopping power"
*Gives him a .32*
Lol.
To be fair, the Beretta in question was a .25 ACP and had a much shorter barrel length. So it actually is a fairly significant upgrade in both power and velocity. The novel and the film for Dr. No were set in a time before modern, polymer 9mm sub compacts after all.
Really. It wasn't until "Tomorrow Never Dies" that Bind was officially issued a gun I would trust for my protection.
@@oddish4352 A .32 is sufficient when you can shoot the nuts off a flea at 100 yards firing a double action semi with 2 1/2 inch barrel and iron sights.
@@ijustawannaprivicie8031 Except no .32 pistol will shoot that accurately. From a rest, 3 inch groups at 25 yards are more realistic. That's just due to loose tolerances in the barrel or action, and individual differences in the cartridges. With a good gun, you can reliably hit a man in the chest at 50 yards. Anything beyond that, you should probably use a rifle.
@@oddish4352 uh, I was poking fun at the unrealistic accuracy Bond has in the films.
I love it when Bond tries to steal the Beretta back.
Fleming did steal his Browning .25 , issued to him, at wars end, it was part of his estate .
Fleming later hinted that the gun was his father's, however the gun issued was manufactured after his Father's death in WW I ...
I suspect Fleming wrote this scene in part based on what would have happened had he been caught, with his issue Browning .25, by his superior...
R.I.P love from scotland you will forever be in our hearts, absoloutely iconic and the greatest
R.I.P. from an American with Scott heritage!
Connery best bond ever
Connery said the best was Brosnan.
Jes
The father of Indiana?
Jürgen Kraise he really said that? Props to him, I like Connery even better now
Rodger was
Great scene a true british masterpiece I seen it for the first time with my dad in London when it first came out. Iam now 63 oh my how times have changed who remembers the lady walking around the seats with a tray of sweets and snacks good times . ( Thinking of you Dad )❤❤
I remember when you entered a lady with a torch would show you where empty seats were.
67, yes those were fun times back then 👍
This is a defining moment in bond history
I like how you can see Moneypenny's concern as he leaves, when he gives her the empty gun box, and she knows that he has a chance of getting killed.
Any gun will get the job done and that goes for the bullet caliber as well. Some rounds are more effective. Having said, neither gun or bullet will do you any good if you can't shoot.
So a sawed off 10 gauge semi auto doesent differentiate? You don't know guns do you?
That reply seems to be a non sequitur.
Friend said something a long time ago, " a 22 to the head does alot more damage than a 45 whistling past your ear."
My preference would be to use the 45 aimed at center mass. After the first shot hits, you have more leisure to aim between the ears.
Yeah, stopping power doesn't seem like an issue for Bond. He's not hunting deer and he's skilled enough to get the job done even with a smaller caliber. But still, we all have to evolve with the changing times.
Compared to the .25 ACP used by the Beretta, the .32 PPK really does have stopping power. But neither compares to the P99 that Brosnan used as Bond.
Hell even .380 would be an upgrade.
@Frank Sinatra If you can get the target to cooperatively sit still while you shoot him through the brainstem, yeah, any bullet will do. But in a real life gunfight, I'd rather have 17 9mm bullets at my command than eight .32's.
@@kyrozudesoya1829 lets just assume the bigger the number the better it is :)
.25 really is a terrible and unreliable caliber. Even .22 is better. The Walther did come in .380, quite a step up from .32. The idea that a .32 hits hard is laughable, but of course any gun can kill you. If trouble is brewing, I want a shotgun.
@@oklahomahank2378 The P99 that Brosnan used was a 9mm and held 17 shots. It was infinitely superior to both the Beretta (trash) and the PPK (a decent backup gun).
I love how M doesn't look up when he tells Bond to "leave the Beretta" it's like he knew he would try to pull a fast one, and he wasn't the least bit surprised.
A valiant effort, Mr. Bond
It's the acting and direction that makes the scene
You can just feel the disgust from bond.
Thats pretty much true of every scene.
Back when they made films. Not movies.
"Standard intelligence duties" means desk work so Bond wasn't going to go for that.
funny, in that time .32 ACP was normal duty round, now people are bitchnig about weakness of any calibre except 10 mm Auto and .44 Magnum.
+betatalk357 You nailed it. Lot of people tend to not realize that at the time there really were no small concealable semi autos in a caliber larger than .380. Once you go to 9mm luger, you step into the realm of full size handguns. A .32 to the head would do the job just fine (though it is quite amusing imagining Bond use a full size .44 magnum, oh wait Live and Let Die)
+betatalk357 .32 ammo is expensive where you are? In New York it's only 18 bucks for a box of 50.
+betatalk357 He's a spy, not going into a military camp and killing every one.
He's a spy. Not Dirty Harry.
That's not the case at all. If you have any knowledge of ballistics you will see that our development of different powder burn rates, bullet design, experimentation of different cartridge sizes to get the most efficient output and change in warfare styles have all dictated the shift in calibers. Sure the older stuff can work, but it is by no means equal or better than the modern stuff.
This is the .32 ACP version...NOT the .380
"7.65 mil" CLEARLY spoken by the armorer is .32 ACP
.32 has good penetration but little tissue disruption. Modern fluted solid .380 bullets can be devastating to soft tissue.
Lehigh and Underwood .380 ammo is amazing.
The .32 ACP is the 7.65 mm version. The .380 is 9mm kurz.
I really like this scene. Can anything get more cooler than this dialogue?
9mm shot is not the 9mm Para. 9mm short is 9x17mm Short/.380 ACP. The one in this video is PP 7.65x17mm Browning SR/.32 ACP
Yes, the 9MM kurz is .380. I own one.
"I'll trust you with global security but not to know sidearm you work best with"
Well, M said it jammed, and Bond spent half a year recovering from surgery as a consequence.
Gun manufacturers make or break their reputation on combat reliability. A gun that jams even once in normal use isn't tolerated for regular police and military, let alone a spy like Bond.
Beretta spent a lot of money redesigning their pistols for the United States Army. Slides that cracked, magazines that jammed, sand and dust problems, etc.
In the books, the reason he had to give up the Beretta is because it got stuck in his holster in From Russia With Love. We see that scene in the movie version. But the books were filmed out of order. At the end of the book, Dr. No, Bond considered writing a flippant note to the armorer about the Walther PPK being ineffective against an armored vehicle with a flamethrower.
The holster Bond was using with the Beretta was a soft pouch of Chamois not a hard sided holster. The Berns Martin holster was for revolvers only but had a molded semi hard form. later autoloader Bianchi holsters followed the same idea as do modern Galco holsters.
except he used a .38 s and w airweight against the swamp dragon not the walther.oddly fleming changes his gun due to fans protests especially boothroyd who was an armourer in oss during the war.yet a look at actual operatives pistols from the imperial war museum shows they almost exclusively used .25 self loaders like the beretta.they used heavier weapons on specific missions obviously but a small pistol was quiet easily concealed much easier to dispose of if searched and intended not as an attack weapon but purely for defense at very close range or even self destruction.an ideal spies weapon.the walther in the clip is not milled for a supressor and if used like the fn substituted for it later with the silencer screwed into the rifling would blow your hand off ! why they never gave bond the same size but more powerful .380 ppk is a mystery.oddly the very reason cited for changing the gun ie jamming was a constant problem on the bond set.in from russia with love during the gypsy fight connery is seen recycling it by hand after every shot.
Dr. No ended with Bond using a .38 on Crab Key.
I agree. I own the .380 version. It's a nice small CC handgun. I think back then an MI operative needed a somewhat small profile gun as he carried it with him always. Remember Bond was an expert shooter, so it was assumed his placement was key :)
That is the trade-off with firearms.......smaller concealed guns tend to be of smaller caliber. A full size gun could probably be carried under a tuxedo, but not comfortably.
You muppets do realize that 007 was a fucking MOVIE CHARACTER and NOT a real person right?
He was always undercover as an exporter of goods right?
its almost impossible to find such a charming lady like her. the good old days...
+Masa Back when women were women and not hard core man hating feminists. Like 80% of them are today. Courtesy of Oprah Winfrey telling them for 30 fucking years that they don't need a man and their kids don't need a father. Feminism has caused more destruction in America than all the guns ever produced.
Hayley Atwell as agent Carter....
Nowadays she'd have tattoes and a nose ring.
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 neon dyed hair and unshaven armpits
I'm going back to the novels on this one. "From Russia With Love" came immediately before "Doctor No". Furthermore, "From Russia With Love" was intended to kill off Bond, since at the end Col. Klebb did succeed in poisoning him, so the novel ends with him seeing the others rushing to his aid as he lost consciousness.
The subsequent novel "Doctor No" began with M taking away Bond's preferred Beretta, citing its not having saved his life.
IIRC he had Bond equipped with two new guns, one of them the Walther; I forget what the other was, and why it was issued. Bond was then ordered to go and get them "fired in".
It was the Smith & Wesson Centennial .38 special. Hammerless
A well known WWII favorite. Berreta had a great reputation until cheap copy’s ruined the market. Walther PPK was the little version...from an even darker SAS purpose...German personal pocket protection. Also very reliable. British adopted most other guns.
*copies
Not copy's
ffs man
Didn't Luftwaffe crews carry the ppk
@@TheGhost-gx5vdYes as well as SS.
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M: "Yes, I thought so. This damned hand cannon again. You tell him, Armorer."
Q: "Too big to conceal, too heavy, loud as a howitzer, not enough rounds."
Bond: "I've used the Deshert Eagle for ten years, sir. And I've never mished with it yet."
Lol
Fitting then that it was being taken for "jamming up". Desert Eagles are very prone to it. Accurate though.
I owned a PPQ and that was too big for a spy. Concealment not penetration power was what spies want.
A lot of people seem to be missing the point. It is about making Bond trade Italian form for German function.
people aren't that clever. i get it tho :)
German guns are best anyway.
Steven King German, Russian, Hungarian, Finnish, British, Italian, American...
Actually if you look at the engineering, there really isn't all that great stuff about german firearms. They tend to have a high part count which leads to higher maintenance and cost. If you look at modern German firearms, they have abandoned the original roller lock and burst fire trigger groups for more American/Russian style forms. I think the leaders of small arms are probably Americans, Russians, and Chinese.
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It was a man's world back then. You have to appreciate the respect these men show each other.
Still is. Equality is an illusion.
Nowadays people feel too sensitive and emotional. Too much drama!
They’re characters…
It’s a movie. Get over it.
@@douglasskaalrud6865 it is reflective of real life. Or at least, life ais it should be.
first time i watched this, couldnt help but think to myself "the guns look really wimpy" then i realised that was the point, easily concealed, perfect for someone who works in the shadows
I always loved how much Dr No was more about spywork than flash.
The early Bond films were much more faithful to the original novels by Ian Fleming which had little action in them. As the years went on, the series started to go its own way and not follow the source material by adding a bunch of action set pieces.
Likewise with From Russia with Love.
1962 what a totally different time era and for espionage a far better one than today
Western culture has lost it's bottle. Today the west is too scared to criticize China.
Far better for eveything, we were about to have the worst winter since 1649, but the explosion of creativity and satire with the Beatles and That Was The week, plus Tom Jones in the cinema etc etc. Golden days indeed, everyone worked no benefits dependant class and we had a core culture. How it could make one weep for our loss of freedom.
Fleming ran off with his issue .25 Browning, at wars end. Just like in this scene. The gun wound up in his estate. Gun could have been a Colt ,.25 1908, serial number matches, or a FN, 1906, basically the same gun ...
Dr. No, my favorite Bond movie. Miss Moneypenny was a hottie.
Currently she's dead so she's downgraded to a "coldie"
Goldfinger.
1. Aston Martin
2. Oddjob
3. Pussy Galore
4. Ft. Knox
5. Royal and Ancient
6. Rolex
7. Fountainbleau Miami
8. Rolls Royce Phantom II gold plated
9. Ejector seat
10.Scrap yard
How can that be beat?
There were very few small autos in those days, and tbe PPK and PP were nice and flat. Relatively light too, for being all steel (alloy frames were still a pretty new idea, starting with the Colt Commander in 1949). For a small auto, 32 or maybe 380 were the choices back then. Remember how in The Man From UNCLE a few years later, they used customized cut down P-38's? And in the 70's the ASP conversion of the S&W 39 was big? Again, because of the lack of compact autos in 9mm and above. That started to change in the late 70's and early 80's with the Detonics and the Star PD (both 45's) and later on things like the S&W 3913 (preceded by the 469 in the 80's). In fact, Bond used an ASP in the first couple of John Gardner novels in the 80's. He also had a Ruger Redhawk in a hidden compartment of his Saab for heavy dury needs.......
There were tones of small autos back in the day. Probably more then than now.
M may seem a bit cold and distant with Bond in the earlier days but make no mistake, he did, in his own way, care for 007. The novels often show that M would grow somewhat worried about Bond when he hadn't heard from him in the field, though upon Bond's arrival he'd snap right back into that ex Royal Navy cold as steel exterior.
I have a boss just like Bernard Lee's M.
In Moonraker (the novel), Bond worries about M.
The fact that he said there was a 40% reduction in double O casualties during his tenure is his fatherly way of subtly stating, "I've grown rather fond of you, & really prefer not see you get killed, old chap.".:)
I always loved his interaction with Miss Funnyfanny.
wish the walther p99 always use for future movies(my favourite 007 weapon really)
SpiderNoirGames really? I never liked it myself. Great gun just too bulky looking.
Max Frankow It’s good for when Bond does a heavy assault into a terrorists base & he needs the extra firepower.
The newer Walther PPS or new compact PPQ would be better today.
P99, that I tried the trigger is horrible. Way to mushy and and long of a pull. The PPQ is crisp, and is a joy to shoot.
leftcoaster67 I have a P99 too. I got used to the trigger and for a full sized handgun, very compact and very easy to shoot
I've owned both. I prefer the Walther. I now have a Walther PPS 9mm.
Mike, I think at that time the .32 was more common than the .380.
And in the book, James Bond was a pistol expert so his shot placements were supposedly excellent.
Maybe so but Bond was a spy (sometimes assassin) so he didn't need to reach out and shoot someone at long distances.
Add to that that the only people armed with the .380 were police.
@@mikeking7470 Why do you say that?
@@bertroost1675 because he is mostly right.
No one that knows pistols would ever carry a ppk. It gets snagged on stuff way too easily with that giant bird beak hanging off the back.
I carried a PP .380 for 40 years. Just switched to a CZ 75 P-01.
just love thos original bond movies
7.65x25 is one heck of a Cartridge! Designed for use in the Mauser C93 - affectionately known as the "Broomhandle Mauser" and used by Han Solo as his Blaster - this 7.65mm round came screaming out of the barrel of that Walther PPK a heckuva' lot faster than the .380 with a fireball as BIG as a Cantaloupe!!! 😆
The PPK has 7,65x17 . A totally different cartridge.
Seriously: It's not the size of the gun, it's who gets the drop. I'd never bet against Bond.
He wanted to keep his Beretta pistol 😏 Bond knows quality
Miss Moneypenny looked so yummy early on.
As a 44 yrs LE officer I have carried a Walther ppk stainless for years, off duty and trust it to this day.
I thought it was a tough call between the Beretta and the PPK...
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so I just got a .357 *Magnum* :)
My favourite pistol is the Beretta M92FS, reliable, packs a serious punch and looks gorgeous in black!
@@mickthegeek875 They're great, until the slide breaks and hits you in the face. ;p
lol. J/K, I give friends crap about that all the time.
It's been a long time since I shot one(and I think the civvy one is just "92FS"), IIRC, that's the gun where CCW people covert the safety to a decocker. Kind of a nice option to have.
Beretta 418: 25 ACP, 9 shots.
Walther PPK: 32 ACP, 8 shots.
Walther P99: 9mm, 17 shots.
I know what I'd choose.
For the PPK, I'd trade up to 380 and pack it for backup.
New Vegas theme plays in the background!
"What are you doing still with that Berretta 007? don't you know that's a gun for woman and Homosexuals?" - the original draft for Dr. No
I like this scene a lot it is much more believable than many of the Bond franchise scenes.
Should have kept both... The PPK for the shoulder holster and the beretta goes on his ankle.
You must have missed the part where M tells him to leave the Beretta.
For paperweights maybe. Get a fucking real gun.
@@phoenixmichaels in the hands of an expert like Bond is portrayed, either will do the job with ease. There were no mini 9mm, .40 or .45 pistols the size of the PPK back then. .32, .380 and .38 Special were as good as it got in the concealed carry game back then.
.38 Special was and still is relatively hard to come by outside of the United States with a few exceptions and revolvers, with the exception of the Russian Nagant, usually cannot be suppressed. Bond cannot always rely on MI6 for resupply of ammunition so that leaves .32 and .380.
Both calibers then and today can be found nearly anywhere on Earth with minimal fuss as a lot of countries forbid the sale of "military calibers", ruling out even .380 in some countries back then, not so much nowadays. One of the first tenents of espionage is not to attract attention.
or just carry a caliber that isnt weak af like a 357 revolver or 1911 in 45 acp at the time these movies were made
@@RedEyePergo Bond DID use weapons like this when called for. He was issued a .44 magnum in Moonraker. This scene was about the gun he would carry ALL the time. It is harder to conceal a 1911 or a full-sized revolver; not to mention the added weight. Even a pocket revolver would mean fewer rounds and either slower reloading one at a time or carrying bulky speed loaders.
James Bond (Sean Connery) is assigned a 7.65 mm "Walther PPK" by M, ordering him to hand over his Beretta (which M accuses of being underpowered, despite the 1934's Italian 9mm Corto being superior to the replacement PPK's 7.65mm chambering; this is a relic from the novel, where the Beretta in question was, as noted below, chambered in .25ACP). However in the film he actually uses a longer-barreled Walther PP chambered in .380 ACP (same as carried by the Metropolitan Police in 1961). Felix Leiter (Jack Lord) also carries a Walther PP, even though he's a CIA agent and, according to M, would use the PPK.
CalculusVariations99 I think the 1934 beretta was in the film because it was easier to see the one .25 he carries in the book
I noticed that he and Felixes "PPKs" were PPs.
Bond's Beretta was a morel 418 in the books, with the grip panels removed for maximum slenderness.
A 32 has a delivery like a brick through a plate glass window?
In Dr No. It was actually a walther pp. the ppk did not come till the next film.
He was actually handed a Walther PP, which has a slightly longer barrel. Bond started carrying the PPK in "From Russia With Love".
One of my first guns was a Walther PP-Super, originally made for the German Polizei. I still have it- an odd caliber (9x18), but sweet piece, accurate and gorgeous. And now that there is hollow point ammo for it, a much better round overall.
A 7.62mm is a .32ACP. Stopping power? What a joke. I used to work in a gun shop and I've had customers ask for a 7.62 cuz it "goes through a window like a brick." I would pull out a .45 ACP hollowppint then pull out a .32 and place the .32 into the nose cavity of thr .45. The customer saw the error of his ways.
0:01 - Holy crap, it's the painting of the 'Bloody Big Ship' from Skyfall! Well played, continuity guys. Well played.
Good eye
No, it’s a different painting, different ship.
Bond Handed in a 25 acp. originally He got a new 32.acp.PPK. I Have a n.i.b. from 1967 This came out in 1962, Had to get one from the day I saw it.Great movie Great little guns.
I've always liked Walthers over Berretas, to me they just seem better made (even if the more recent Walthers look the EXACT SAME FROM ONE ANOTHER).
"Only three men I know used such a gun; I believed I killed two of them."
Lucky me.
Man, he couldn’t even smooze with Money Penny,, tyrant.
"Hey, how's about we cast the guy that was just singing in a Disney movie two years ago?"
"To play a deadly secret agent? Are you nuts?"
Meh!
Both Bruce Willies and Mel Gibson has redeemed the Beretta since "Dr. No" :)
Those were Beretta 92Fs, 9mm 15 round full size pistols.
1:30 - A gunsmith friend of mine once told me that you never 'slap' a magazine into the butt of a semi-automatic like this, as the violent 'slap' can easily deform the top of the magazine and affect round delivery - just saying...
RIP - Sean Connery
"You spent six months in a hospital in consequence."
Seeing what happened to Hank in Breaking Bad, this line hits differently now.
The Best James Bond! RIP Sean Connery.
And here we witnessed the beginning of a beautiful friendship :)
Don't get an older PPK. Buy the PPK/S which changed the rear portion so produce LESS slide bite. If you hold the gun proper you won't get bite. Also, if you have really BIG hands you may have a problem but I don't think so. Second, mine hasn't jammed and I haven't heard any jamming. Keep your gun clean and use good ammo and you should be fine.
I have a PPK/S and it jams all the time. My gunsmith says it isn't broken in.
The S&W made models were prone to jam.
Yes, shot placement is a very important factor. I always tell someone whom I teaching to shoot that it's better to hit with a 22 than miss with a 44. Having said that, I would still prefer a heavier, larger caliber bullet than a small one. I have a PPK/S in 380acp as well, it's a very nice little gun and quite accurate at close distances. Modern 380acp ammo has some fairly good choices of self defense ammo available to the public.
He just gave Moneypenny an empty box 🤣
I can see why his relationships never lasted.
No it was symbolic of his concern for her that had he been allowed time by M, it would have contained his heart...
I sure Bond filled her empty box more than once.
perfect double entendre' for Moneypenny
"the old coot wants you to keep hold of my guns box, Moneypenny."
This movie is a classic and even back then, in the 60's, people thought it was timeless.
The Beretta was the proper concealed weapon for a secret agent to carry. Fleming had it correct and Boothroyd screwed it up with this German Walther nonsense. The Beretta was the gun of James Bond.
Bah! In .25? Good in a ladies handbag or for an ambush, but nothing to fight with.
With a good hit .32 ball will reach your spine with devestating consequences, merrily perforating everything in between.
Leave the Beretta take the cannoli
When passing over a weapon one should show the other person the empty chamber. M.
It is amazing that the 2 calibers of the firearms that they are arguing over are the 25 acp vs the 32 acp.
Love my Walthers.
Love my interarms PPK
Love my Berettas. Even the one in 7.65x17. Wish we could get Walters in commiefornia.
The .380 PPK had more felt recoil than a KelTec PF9, and with the PF9 weighing only half as much...
Great scene . Have wanted a walther ever since . Nice compact pistol
RIP to Connery the legend.
Yes he mistakenly says MI7, but you can read a little tidbit on it in a wiki link in the description above.
I never get tired of watching this.
his gun in this flim is a walther pp
James Bond was the reason I fell in love with the PPK. I've been carrying one daily for 14 years now for my CCW.
"A gun...radio.. Well it's not exactly Christmas is it?"
@chrismc410 .380 a bit more powerful, but he said plate glass window, 1 pane. They didn't have double/triple paned windows like today LOL. I have the .380 PPK/S. It's a nice conceal and carry. Remember these guns were for close combat. Bond was a spy/assassin, others have commented about this here. As always, thanks for the comments and thumbs up on the video. It's Bond's 50th anniversary, they released the new blu ray set recently, and SkyFall in a few weeks!
I have always enjoyed this scene.