Concealed Carry: Is .32 ACP Enough?
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2017
- Paul demonstrates the effectiveness of .32 ACP for concealed carry.
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I've related this story before, but I'll tell it again since there is the usual bashing of small handguns. A friend has a daughter that was in law school in a major city several years ago. She lived off campus in an apartment but had to ride the bus to campus. She had a class that was late afternoon (in Dec so dark already). Walking to a bus stop, 2 guys in a car pulled over and one jumped out of the car and grabbed her arm trying to force her into the car. She was getting punched in the face. She was (illegally) carrying a baby Browning 25acp in her jacket pocket. She managed to pull the gun with her right hand and shot the guy. She almost missed as the shot hit the perp in the shoulder. The guy fell back but was really pissed that he had been shot.
...and the self-defense non-victim loses the gun used to save her life! Did the police think she would now go on a Bad-guy shooting spree, or did they think all those Bad-Guys were in one car, preventing her from further self defense?
Angel on her shoulder that day. 😀
Glad she is ok! Hopefully she can help advance the truth about guns: the right to keep and bear arms is in our Constitution because it is a fundamental human right.
I'm really glad to hear she was okay and was able to successfully defend herself! As Paul said, carrying a small gun is a big difference from carrying no gun.
I really like happy endings!
"15$ for 9mm ammunition" ............ brought a tear to my eye
@Rob Bryant same here, cabelas and basspro have been 29 cents a round on 9mm and 32acp about 26 cents a round
@@imthatguy1878 ...and that's considered a deal
@@imthatguy1878 Tombstone had 124 grain JHP PMC for $22.79 a box. Hate to say it, but that is a smoking good deal now. $9.95 white box range junk ammo is selling for $50 a box right now. $23 for 50 rounds of okay 124 gr. hollow point? How many can I buy?
@@Satchmoeddie we're paying .29 a round and flipping it all at 85 cents a round and haven't run out of buyers yet
$24 a box in Fairbanks.
9:33
Knowing he’s a dental assistant makes it that much more comical that he kills bottles of soda in nearly all of his testing. LOL!
Paul’s a national treasure.
It’s more because of the effect and it’s found at $1 store
Yeh what?
@@MbisonBalrog He mentioned it in one of the Halloween specials
What I remember most after a lifetime of carrying a gun, and working in positions where I was issued guns, are not the guns. It was being sent to Bethesda Naval Hospital and being introduced to treating gun shot wounds. It was amazing to learn how hard it is to keep someone alive after being shot. If you put the front sight over the chest before firing and penetrate the chest wall, that person is in a lot of clinical trouble. Caliber is less important than placement.
Yes. Reagan was damn near assassinated with a 22 caliber revolver. If he hadn't had an express ride to the hospital he'd have been dead.
theykilledthegiggler - They won’t get until they get it. When they do, it may be too late. In the 3rd world lots of people die from infection, shot or otherwise.
@theykilledthegiggler
A man was shot and killed in 2009 with a Crosman pellet rifle in Perry County, Pennsylvania. Obviously that's not my first choice for a self defense weapon, but small rounds do kill.
@theykilledthegiggler
The guy I'm referring to murdered his "friend" in a dispute over $300.
@theykilledthegiggler lol @ caliper
I love Hickok and Demo Ranch but Paul has the best firearm channel on RUclips.
Agreed. Harrell is one of the best gun RUclipsr's out there. He's not a swaggering blow hard trying to cultivate a "tough guy" persona, like James Jeager. He's also not a sewer mouthed cop hater that likes to attack other youtube personalities like Yankee Marshall. He's low key, professional, and informative, with enough dry humor to make him fun.
I like Matt at Demo Ranch quite a bit as well. But its important to keep in mind hes playing for laughs rather than trying to be informative. There is a place for both, of course. And neither are the cancer on the gun community that are JJ or YM.
hickok sucks
@@chadhaire1711 He is a talented shooter that communicates information well. What more do you want?
@@MrWickstar hickok 45 sucks
@@chadhaire1711 Haha, well said
Watch enough of his videos, and one thing becomes clear: This dude HATES Shasta.
Awww, geez, let’s hope the Shasta Brigade doesn’t find out.
Lmao. jUsT aS gOOd tho
9mm Hornady Critical Defense for me
Shasta murdered his paw
At least he doesn't shoot full beer cans like MAC does!
Paul is an incredible vessel of historical gun and ammunition information. No um's or ar's he just says it in a clear & detailed way that's always impressive
It's there in each " however" "now" "well" as well as every time he swallows hard!
is it safe to carry a pocket gun in the pocket, without a trigger sheath and loaded? i see a lot of these vids and the hosts insinuate you can just throw it in there to go to the store. there isnt much for the trigger to snag on in an empty pocket but i suppose it could snag on the cloth inside and pull accidentally? or are you supposed to carry unloaded if not using a trigger sheath like a clipdraw?
Having been shot with a .22lr and being "certain" I was dead, I'll tell you it's no fun getting shot. ANY gun for self protection is better than nothing. That being said, I love the versatility of the .380 auto and find myself carrying that cartridge more often than any. Thanks for the wonderful video, Paul Harrell!
No reason to pick .380 over 9mm.
@@IWillSmurfYou Yes, there is. The guns are smaller.
@@IWillSmurfYou I can fit a .380 in my gym shorts, my 9mm fits in my jeans. I'm twice the size of most healthy people I know, I can never feel confident carrying my 9mm in athletic clothing. I can't imagine my 95 pound nurse friend carrying a 9mm when she goes for a jog. But hey, better to have a stronger gun tucked in her glove box than a smaller gun while she is 2 miles away right?
@@kylewhite8620 not anymore
@@abonynge i get your point but you could just buy the right gun for the job. Its 2021 not 1990. They make 9mm guns just as small as 380 ones now.
As a police officer in a high crime city for over 4 decades, I have worked well over 300 shootings either as a patrol officer, crime scene technician, or supervisor. In the 70s and early 80s the .25 and .32 app were the predominate calibers used in the shootings that we investigated. There was the occasional .38 special but it was rare. I lost count of the number of people I saw killed with the .25 and.32. And the fights were over quickly with a decent hit. Into the 80s and 90s the 9mm became the most popular gun of choice for the majority of shootings we saw, with the occasional .45 now and then. All these test you do so well reveal what they reveal, and are good for general information. But I can assure everyone that poking holes in people where the holes don't belong is immediately life threatening in a lot of cases.You're right when you say the .32 is certainly better than nothing. It's actually pretty damn effective with a good hit, which is true of basically any handgun cartridge, notwithstanding the person's will to fight, drugs involved or not, etc. Having something to shoot with is always better than nothing. I started out carrying .38 special, then went to .45 and 9mm at various times, and have finally settled on the 9mm as my go-to in Glock 19 form. Having seen and been involved in shootings with all three calibers myself, my personal motto is more ammo, more ammo, more ammo. Your milage may vary.
Thank you for your service and for the detailed first hand info.
Well do tell. High crime city. I looked it up the other day. St louis was number one murder usa an 15 world. Detroit 2nd usa and new Orleans 3rd. Where was bad bad Leroy brown shooting all those .32 and .25 ? I think the general understanding that .32 and even .25 are good self defense guns is finally making sense to folks. Excellent comment you made, very nice to read. What city? We need a place to plant all that visually stimulating dialog you gave us.
@@metalandwood4u Just sharing my personal experience, of which I'm sure you have none. If you don't believe what I said, I really don't give a shit.
@@jwf1208 hell, most of my ww1 and ww2 handguns are in .32 auto. and you are right in saying poking holes where they don't belong is life threatening.
@@jwf1208 thanks for info I live in france here is very hard to own a gun so we know basically nothig of guns...
This man is the Bob Ross of guns. Deserves his own show on the History Channel.
Haha absolutely, I got the same vibe. Especially the way he talks.
"There's never any crime in Moomin Valley",
"Unless we create some.... Let's go and fill moomin Valley with crime"
That is dedication...mid afternoon, right through to dusk, soaking wet, just to highlight the significance of the .32 acp cartridge and its alternatives...
Thank you
My 1903 Colt hammerless .32 ACP is a beautiful and reliable weapon even after 100+ years.
Those are beautiful, rimless smokeless
My late paternal grandmother would agree
I've carried my 1917mfg one quite often
Mine is a 1919 production, great little piece!
i had one as a kid traded it miss it
To quote Sterling Archer: "If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after pumping eight .32 caliber slugs into it, it's probably a dragon."
Paul hahahaha
Or maybe a grizzly
Grizzly Dragon
Incredibly lucky.
Old Gregg lmfao
If somebody pulls a gun on me, I am not going to eyeball it, and judge my next course of action based on its caliber.
Yeah, getting shot with ANY caliber handgun would really suck.
@@jm9371 especially potato guns, I heard that those are like insta-kills
@@CamoCollie Not to mention the lethality of the common squirt gun
@@Koler2k I fill mine with piss so that it stings the eyes
"If somebody pulls a gun on me", at this point they had better get it out in less than two seconds because I don't care what caliber they have I am going to introduce them to several 180 gr jacketed hollow points.
While serving in Vietnam from 1967 through 1969, I purchased a Walther PP 32ACP, Many times I would carry this when in civilian cloths and going to town. I loaded it with semi jacked hollow point bullets. On one excursion, I was riding back to base in a jeep. The jeep had a flat and while helping change the flat we were shot at by a Vietnamese man at about 75 yards away. There were 3 of us in the jeep and the only gun was my Walther PP 32ACP. I took cover behind the jeep and proceeded to return fire. After firing 5 rounds, the Vietnamese man fell over face down. I and another guy, an Army person, ran over to see what happened. I had managed to hit him in the side of the head. There was a 32 caliber hole where it went in and a 1" hole on the other side. Is a 32ACP capable?, It would appear so if the person shooting it can hit what they are shooting at.
225' away with a walther PP is incredible 👏
@@zachmueller2912especially when you make it all up!
Make it up ? In your dreams punk. Come and stand for my 32 than we can talk again.
Right....
Interesting story. I have a handful of pistols, one cost me 6k but my favorite is my Walther PP that I bought for 250. It was an undercover cops service weapon and he carried it for 30 years.
Leroy Brown carried a .32 gun in his pocket for fun.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But..."and a razor in his shoe." Musta thought he was under gunned.
Bad, Bad Leroy Brown.
Well you gotta go heeled if you start messin' with the wife of a married man.
And he was the Baddest person in the whole D*** Town (with just a 32!)
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Eduardo Villalon right? His vids are informative and relaxing. Perfect for a nice night in.
omg, thats exactly what I did!
Absolutely! Knowledgeable? Check. Consistent? Check? Dead pan humor? CHECK!
That is SOP for a Harrell video. :)
Spring Bloom ask your mom. She's a pro
I love how you’re getting rained on and you just keep going.
A J H PRODUCTIONS He’s probably from Oregon.....
He does that....for us haha.
Real Men never concern themselves with discomfort when on Mission
Clearly, if you watch enough of Paul's videos, you can only conclude that he owns his very own personal rain-cloud that follows him around wherever he goes.
Hell yeah dude, you wouldn't? A little rain never hurt anybody.
I've carried pocket sized guns for many years and I always carry. Certainly the 380 and 9's are stronger. However, as a woman, and now an older woman developing some arthritis in my hands, it is much more difficult for us to conceal than it is for men. Heck, we can't even find pants with decent pockets in our jeans. They are all like 3 inches deep at most. Also, recoil is a major factor for most women. This is why I am more confident with the smaller caliber guns. My accuracy is much better and my confidence is higher. I feel quite confident with my tomcat 32 or my keltec 32 or even my bobcat 22. While I have other guns I could carry (I sometimes carry my Sig p238 and Sig P938), I most often reach for the smaller, lighter guns. Simply more comfortable to carry and better accuracy due mainly to recoil. While Ruger has come a long way with their LCP Max, there is still considerable recoil. You simply cannot put the 380 into an extremely light gun. In my humble opinion, the 32 is the best caliber for a lightweight pocket gun. As was stated, my 32 or even 22 is better than the 45 I left at home. One more thing, bring back the 32! When I first started out buying guns I purchased the first Ruger LCP 380. Of course the salesman said nothing about recoil before I bought the gun, and at the time everyone was raving about this gun. This is the only gun I have ever owned that truly frightened me, and I've been shooting things since my first Daisy bb gun! With every shot I felt I had no control at all, and the gun was literally jumping out of my hand. The 380 is great in a heavier gun like my p238 but it just doesn't work for me in the very light guns like the lcp. So ladies, if you go with a 380 then go with a heavier gun than the lcp.......just remember, your goal is to purchase something that you will actually carry every day. For me the Kel-tec 32 is my main every single day carry gun. Ruger take note! Your LCP Max in a 32 would be great for many women.
Theres a lot of good advice and info here. Thanks for adding this to the discussion.
Chosing pants with inadequate pockets does limit your carry options particularly when carrying concealed. As dose wearing pants with an inadequate foundation for a drawing platform so yeah having something that does have a little punch, multiple shots and will work with those clothes is important. Now days depending on where you live you can carry concealed or open or either and not worry about having an issue, and women can carry while wearing lulu lemon leggings because they put external pockets on those now.
Its important to remmber that you either need guns for every outfit you plan on carrying with or every outfit you plan on carrying with has to work with the gun you have.
they kinda DID bring back the .32acp. they are now calling it the '30 super carry' and it is available in the S&W Shield and EZ line of carry guns.
I'm a guy and guarantee your hands are bigger than mine lol, my hands can't fully wrap around a glock 19 but can comfortably shoot and manipulate it..
I would like to add that I now own the Ruger LCP Max. Ruger got this one right! I highly recommend it! Unlike their original LCP , this one has just enough weight to handle the .380. Yes, the Max in a .32 would be great too, but for the ladies out there, this one is great with low recoil and easy to conceal.
Hell, I'm a 6' 1" 210# 55 year old man that's been shooting all his life and I'D carry an LCP in .32.
No contest, Paul Harrell is the best RUclips firearms channel.
Great video. I was in the military and now am a cop. On duty my sidearm of choice is a 9mm. Off duty I carry a p365 9mm in cooler weather, and a keltec p-32 during the warmer weather. The thing most rounds have in common is that round placement is everything. There's a video we had to watch in the police academy where a trooper got into a gun fight with a guy. He was able to shoot the guy 5 times with a .357 magnum in the stomach. The trooper then started back peddling and calling for backup when the guy shot one round at the trooper with .22lr handgun. The round missed his vest, entered under the armpit and traveled to his heart killing him. The guy shot 5 times with the
357 mag lived. That's anecdotal at best, but I've learned every round can be lethal, and in normal self defense situations, the conflict is almost always over after that first bullet is fired. So making sure you have a gun on you is 90 percent of the battle.
I might add, that Kel-Tec is one of the shittiest guns ever made! They don't like any sort of high energy rounds, and will fall apart if you shoot many of them through them. I speak from personal experience. You want a .32? Buy a Beretta or a Seecamp or even an NAA.
@@MrJC7071 I love my 2 keltec P32s brotha, they shoot everything including Underwood Xtreme defender and hot fiocchi ammo. I think u might of had a lemon which can be found in every brand.
the early version of the KEL-TEC P32 is amazingly reliable and accurate !
Mine has the traditional style extractor.
@@luissquinones1071 there are 2 versions of the KEL-TEC P32.
The early version with the traditional, reliable extractor and the later unreliable version that uses a set-screw style extractor.
@@unitedstatesirie7431 yup I bought the gen 1 in the early 2000s and a gen 2 about 4 yrs ago. Love em both but favor the gen 1 a bit more.
Paul is like the Postal Service. Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays this sportsmen from the swift completion of their appointed rounds down range.
Julian the Apostate :In Seattle they told me, "if youre not going to do it in the rain, youre not going to do it at all." They were right.
Julian the Apostate unless he is like Newman... Newman does not work in the rain.
If your postal carrier/service is 10 perfect as meticulous, efficient, effective, and precise as Paul, consider yourself extremely lucky. Mine is abysmal, with stereotypical civil service attitude, values, performance (but I do appreciate allusion to Paul’s final remarks being made by headlight).
Paul, unlike the Postal "Service", is efficient, gets the job done right the FIRST time, and delivers his message without a poor attitude!
Stevenowski my postal carrier is great. She has a decent attitude considering her workload and circumstance. Maybe, you should try talking to the postal carrier like a neighbor. At Christmas time, tear off a chunk of your ammo budget for your postal carrier. It's amazing how far just a little grease goes.
I found the following written on a napkin:
"32 ACP is the ideal caliber for self defense. You can carry a half dozen Beretta 81s and 1500 rounds of ammo and we're talking less than 20 pounds for an adequate rig. This allows you to lay down a good volume of suppressive fire, when you find yourself engaged in self defense.
"As your barrel heats up, you switch out Berettas. By the time number 6 is too hot, number 1 has cooled off and you can put it back in action. The key to all this is Fiocchi 32 ACP, which is actually loaded to 204 ft lbs to produce good through-and-throughs, the way John M. Browning intended it.
"I actually laugh when my opponents show up with their Glocks or their Sigs or whatever, because I know that they will be easy for me to put down.
"This was all basic knowledge in the 1930s, but is being lost due to the decline in literacy and the ravages of senile dementia. Fortunately, the rise of Comment Sections as a platform for wise pronouncements promises a return of the ancient knowledge, which will bring about a successful resolution to countless future self-defense shootings."
Top notch comment.
"Comment sections as a platform" 🤣🤣🤣
OP may be a techy
Thats a big ole napkin
@@gls3894 expanded kotex
😂😂 this is great
Paul’s channel is the Mythbusters of firearms. He’s fair, tests gun myths, and is enjoyable to watch.
I just added your comment at 20:43 to my collection of proverbs “The 32 in your pocket really beats the 45 you left at home”.
Simply brilliant Mr. Harrell.
@Uganda Knuckles Unless the 32 is in your hand already.
Let us consult the Holy Book of armaments.
@@Totes_ma_Goat Brother Maynard? Is that you? Lol
@@kevingooley9628
Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy."
And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats 😆
@@Totes_ma_Goat Lol Hahahahahaha
Starts to rain, still teaching. This man is legit. You've taught me more in three videos than I've learned in the two years at a gun range with gun range Rambos. Love your vids. Good stuff. Subscribed.
I think he waits for rain in the forecast so he comes across as more badass.
@@GearZenChannel, what most don't realize is that those aren't REALLY raindrops hitting his jacket.
THEY WOULDN'T DARE!
The wetness you are seeing is the tears of the misguided Millennials who cannot cope with the world, much less Manhood.
@@user-td1zo3tv9p raindrops don't dare but millennial tears do? I think you are underselling mother nature.
Kind of reminds me of a James Bond type guy.👍🏻
@@GearZenChannel no dude it's just Oregon. Rains all the time
LOVE this guy's ability to cut through all the gun and caliber BS out there. Keep up the good work, Paul.
My Barretta 81 saved my life. I had a home invasion a few months ago. The burglar pulled a gun and I took a .40Cal round through my hand. I had my .32 hidden where I could get to it. I was able to place a round in his hip and one in his chest. He got a block away before collapsing. It may be small but it will do the job when needed.
Yep, putting holes where there are not supposed to be holes is very effective.
Half the time i grab my M&P 22c, rather than my 9mm when going out.
I can put rounds exactly where i want them and one on top of another. My CCI Velocitors have never failed me, and meet the FBI standard of 13" out of a small pistol.
Wise words from Mr. Harrell, "It's better than the .45 you left at home."
Wiser words, "Heavy is good, heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work you can always hit them with it. " -Boris "The Blade" Yurinov
Paul is my favorite, but some platitudes are better left at home. "I'd rather be tried by 12....", "....pry it from my cold dead hands", "when guns are outlawed....",
It is just too lame to use these worn out phrases...
bassman686 what're you even referring to at 35oz vs 60????
And remember, never pack a handgun of any kind after you have been packing a 40oz or two around the house. lol
On the other hand, I was referring to a fully loaded Michelob Ultra. :)
.32 is in the area of "people generally don't like being shot" kind of rounds.
Yeah, except well into the wide adoption and prevalence of 9mm, .40, .45, .380... There were a lot of formidable military and police forces who stuck with .32ACP, hardly because they hadn't heard of or considered another option
@@jslaughterofthesoul4939 You are correct. I own a vz50 in 32. acp (7.65 browning) that the Czechoslovakian military and police used form 1950s until the 1980s alongside the cz75. However the cz50 does have a longer barrel so it will have much more velocity than paul's .32 in the video. They now more widely use 9x19 cz75.
The junk?
@@pearldrummer1479 I have conducted water jug tests with my CZ 70 using 60gr JHPs. One gallon jugs covered by denim at 5 yards. Expansion rate is 80%. Some bullets get clogged with cloth. When they expand it's to 0.42 in. They penetrate 3 jugs and are stopped by the 4th. Is the CZ 70 as powerful as my 40 S&W? No. Is my CZ 70 easier to conceal under a dress shirt? Yes.
What the hell is that profile picture?
Mr Paul,,,,,watching this vid today MON JAN 29th 2024. My wife inherited a WWII Browning FN model 1922 in .32acp, from her dad service/fighting in North Africa. A local gunsmith in GA went through the firearm, after 60yrs in the basement rafters. The wife & I fired it at our outdoor GA range, flawlessly! GOD BLESS JOHN BROWNING & GOD BLESS the USA! ALL THE BEST TO YOU MR PAUL,,, from your newest Subscribed, GODS BLESSINGS TO YOU...
The thing with 32acp is that it will reliably penetrate deeply enough to reach vitals when you use fmj or other non expanding projectiles. With guns in 22lr or 25acp, ability to penetrate deeply comes into question, even with non expanding bullets. 22 magnum will penetrate deeply too, but it also comes with all the issues of rimfire ammunition. 32acp is the best round within the "can't use hollow points because they either don't expand or if they do, they will underpenetrate" tier of calibers. 380acp is the smallest caliber that can expand hollow points and penetrate adequately with those expanded hollow points. Anything weaker than .380 requires the use of non expanding projectiles in my opinion.
A good argument for the 32acp is that it has next to no recoil. In small guns like the Ruger LCP, 380 kicks a quite a lot more than a similarly sized 32acp like a Beretta 3032 or Kel-Tec P32. 380s also tend to be less accurate when firing quickly because of increased recoil compared to the 32acp. For those with arthritis, recoil is a big concern. Many can't even shoot a 380 without pain and/or grip issues and have to resort to carrying a 22lr. The 32acp gives them an option with enough power to reach vitals from any angle without painful recoil. They just have to make sure to use FMJ or those weird Lehigh Bullets and not bother with hollow points.
It is certainly a niche caliber nowadays, but the niche does still exist.
I totally agree about using FMJ with the 7.65 mm Browning also known as .32 Automatic Colt Pistol
We're looking at .32h&r...we're revolver people, and the plus side would be practicing with .32s&w long, which is back down to about 23.00 a box...the .327 might be okay, but then we're back to more recoil than we prefer...
@@PetuniaIii-pd1wwthat’s why the .327 revolver is the most versatile revolver out there. It shoots from 32 shorts/32acp, all the way to the very powerful .327 fed mag.
The best hand gun is the one you quickly access and hit your target with.
Paul, you Sir are a fabulous presenter. I had no interest whatsoever in watching a video about .32 acp, yet you made it fascinating. Much appreciated.
*^this!*
Hahaha same here
I’ve just notices Paul’s jacket pockets must be made with the same material as Mary Poppins’s bag. 😂
Only instead of pulling out lamps and hat stands, he can pull out BAR’s and even M2 Brownings...
I believe their referred to as “ ballistic pockets “
He shops in the same stores as the GTA protagonists.
@@cal30m1 wile he sings ‘A spoonful of ammo, makes the targets go down’ 😂👍🏻
You got it backwards there bud, she stole the idea from Paul while she watched
When I legally carried on the street, our firearms instructor said about handguns, 'they'll all kill you; some just leave bigger holes' Shot placement is everything so we were trained to shoot 'center mass, ' fast and accurately, in low light, turning targets, weak hand, standing, sitting, lying prone, all possible scenarios. I learnt skill was vital for self defense. I owned a .25. Horrible to shoot and accurate at conversational distances only, where as my CZ found the sweet spot. Paul cuts through the myths to uncover the truth.
Thank you Stewart and Cheryl. :) I don't know you but I love watching and being a part of this channel. Whatever helps Paul helps me. So again, thank you. :)
Thanks for standing in the rain to bring us this excellent and informative video. When I was first learning how to use a pistol, my father told me a hit with a .22 was better than a miss with a .44. I think this still "rings true" today.
Don Brotherton My dad was a dangerous man with a Ruger MKI Pistol. I miss him.
Don Brotherton sorry i disagree. I've had many quality 22s and they were all too unreliable, fun yes but wouldn't put my life on it.cycles too low to make 100% reliable. 380 minimum ,9mm standard. Here in wa state 3 layers of clothing is standard meth attire, 9mm minimum 3-5 shot min. 22 maybe in the summer w stingers and use the whole clip!
Peter Pancho, sorry you disagree but I didn't say anything about carrying a .22. What if you have a 20 y.o. daughter who hates 9MM or .380 but is comfortable with a 22 snubby revolver. What would you send her out with??? I thought so.
Don Brotherton having something is better than nothing i guess..but i would def up grade her to at least a 380. min.
It's a magazine.. not a "clip" Also you are very biased
Carried a P3AT for about five years. Found a P32 for a good price, and like it much more...and that’s what is in my pocket right now. Besides, John Browning himself designed the 32acp.
A bullet is a bullet, even a .22 short can be lethal. Educational value is again, priceless!
.22 lr might not put a whole out of your back but you’ll be dead by the time you get home with massive internal organ injuries and bleeding.
Interesting choice for a review. I own 3 pistols in .32 ACP. I have MS and have a week hand. So over the past 3 or so years I have stepped down from 40 S&W to a 9x19 to 9x18 and now .32 ACP. My next stop will be to try and acquire a .38 revolver. I believe doing a review for people with disabilities and our best personal protection options would be a welcome topic. Thank you Mr. Harrell for all the wonderful information and insight. I look forward to more videos.
An important topic indeed , for both specific disabilities , and generic Senior Citizens .
Alas , if you have to step Down from .32acp , the DA trigger pull will probably also be too much .
Of course , this " strength " thing actually breaks down to three different factors , and individual people will have different combinations .
1. Trigger Finger strength .
2. Gripping strength of the hand generally.
3. Arm/ shoulder strength generally , such to be able to hold the gun up at arms length .
For absolute orthopedic accomodation , with some degree of effectiveness , you have to go outside the usual boxes .
A Single Action Revolver . More and larger muscle groups are involved with thumbing back the hammer , than with pulling a DA trigger .
A .22WMR * with full length bbl * will give 1300-1400 fps with a 40gr jhp , nothing to sneeze at . An alloy framed gun will further decrease the weight .
No , these aren't pocket guns . Great for home defense or car gun . Concealed carry would require the commitment of dressing around the gun as say , a 1911 .
And no , avoid snubnose .22WMR . The ctg requires velocity to rise above bottom tier mousegun levels , and shorter than 4in bbls give massive velocity loss .
( Yeah , yeah , please don't shoot me with a 2in .22WMR . But at that bbl length , it's at the same level as 4in bbl .22lr .)
Shield EZ
Try a 32 S&W long l
@@selfresponder6043 we are thinking about getting .32h&r, and practicing with .32s&w long...we're revolver people, and someday soon our .38's will feel painful to practice with...
Prior to leaving for Vietnam in "67, my father had given me his old .32 Colt automatic as a return home safe jesture. I only had to use it once when I was down to the last round in my M1911. Dropped the target at approximately 5 yards with one wildly placed torso shot. In other words, don't write off the .32 acp. it just might save your life one day.
Wait really?
82 Luft thanks for your service sir, the world is in debt to you
cool story bro.
@82 Luft Was this done with FMJ?
@@Flugabwehrkanone i cant speak for him but most likely, yes.
I carry a keltec .32 every day. Weighs six ounces. I like the extra capacity, low recoil, and reduced noise.
Beretta Tomcat 32 acp my favorite little mouse gun for that caliber
it's also disposable =/
Mr. Harrell, my heartfelt thanks and applause for you making videos to help strangers in the rain, dark, cold, etc. You're an American treasure, sir. All the best.
"To tell you about the .32 ACP I'll have to give you some history, it goes back to 1800s".
PAUL: _exasperated expression implying he's sorry he's going to ramble on_
ME: *Woo Woo* Paul's going to talk about ammunition from the 1800s! _grabs popcorn_
Darth KEK I love his knowledge, skill and delivery method.
I (almost) always find the talking more interesting than the shooting itself. I'm probably just boring. :P
He always says the talking parts are going to be boring. They never are.
Darth KEK outside of all .22 rimfire cartridges, I think the .32 ACP, introduced in 1899, perfected in 1900, is the oldest mainstream semi-automatic round made and still in use. It's certainly one of the oldest modern self-defense rounds.
chrismc410:
I guess it depends on how you rate them. It only beats the 9x19mm by a couple of years, and the 9mm is _far_ more mainstream than the .32. The .38 special is even older, and while not a semi-automatic round, enough people still carry revolvers that it certainly counts as a modern self-defence round. Still, one thing I think everyone can agree on is that any of the above is better than a sharp stick.
I have to say your “meat target” is the best practical test of self defense ammo. I was glad to see the 380 Gold Dot performed as it did on your meat target.
"Sometimes twice nothing, is still nothing." Gotta love this guy
Re the 25acp deer kill: if I remember correctly, Paul has also said that, at that time, he was comfortable carrying a 25acp and that he could hit the target at 25 yards. Indicating that, while not optimal, a 25acp, or 32acp, could be an effective defense weapon to carry.
Thanks Paul, for your very useful contributions to practicable firearm knowledge.
It has been so extensive that, as long as the channel remains active, it will continue to provide useful info for countless firearm
enthusiasts into the future.
Wishing you a comfortable journey to whatever awaits you.
A journey which is in the future for all of us,
He's like the inspector gadget of guns, they keep coming out of nowhere lol
This dude deserves so many more subs.
Juicy404 I agree. Spread the word!
I have a lcp2 and a kel tec p32. Both are around the same weight. I like the .32 acp because it seems to have a significant less amount of recoil. To me this translates to better accuracy. As we all know. A hit with a .22 lr is much more valuable than a miss with a .44 magnum. To be honest I have always believed that a pistol is what you use to fight your way back to a real firearm.
I also have the Keltec p32. Fits nicely in my front pocket.
An LCP2 in .32 ACP (probably 7+1) would low key be a useful little gun. I’ve heard that good .32 FMJ (the Euro countries load it hotter) can tumble on impact and cause more damage. Would be interested to see that type of ammo tested on the meat target.
@@FMDad-dm5qo I have had probably 50+ .32 caliber pistols in my life. Using GECO ammunition is the best. They are hotter than the wimpy American loads. Prefer the model 1935 Beretta or the Walther PPK/S. I feel that with European loads they are equal to the .380's in striking power. Remember if criminals are, 20 feet or closer fire at least 4 rounds as fast as you can. It should stop him dead!
@@FMDad-dm5qo Fort Scott Munitions has a copper Tumble On Impact cartridge NOW available!
I'm interested in .32 auto so I bought a P32 rwo days ago
Paul is the all weather King. Who else would spend a day in the rain for a video about 32 ACP? Great video and content.
It is so refreshing to have a channel where the presenter balances knowledge with experience and is willing to qualify statements based upon individual circumstance. Liked and subscribed.
I occasionally carry my Beretta 3032 & love it. Anything larger will pull my pants down. It's plenty accurate for up to 25 yrs & recoil is ok (I'm 71 with arthritis in my hands). I also have the Beretta .380 dbl stack & love it but it pulls my pants down. I guess I need combat suspenders.
You’d be the baddest gramps on the block with suspenders.
Take it from a 73 year old, tighten your belt when carrying a gun.
I know it was a typo, but...
If anyone could give a pocket gun a range measured in *years*, it'd probably be an old badass like yourself. :D (no offense meant, just thought it was funny)
@@carltonmclean9283 I carry a S&W 357 mag Highway Patrol 4 Inch barrel and sometimes my belt is so tight I can't hardly breathe. I'm 83. Seriously thinking about a compact 380. Don't think I would be comfortable with the .32.
28 is a monster.
Take a look at Taurus G2.
Smaller than a Glock 43 and single action. 13 x 9mm. $240
Before April/May 2020, the Canadian government, with its often suspect and spurious regulations pertaining to firearms, surprisingly didn't have overly many about specific calibers. One of the ones that was prohibited was 5.7x28, which in a way is understandable, it's specifically designed to be as effective if not more effective against targets wearing soft body armour than it is against unarmoured targets, and since the only things with soft body armour in Canada are security, law enforcement and military personnel, you can kinda see where they were coming from.
The other two were .25 ACP and .32 ACP. There was a massive string of people nabbing them on the cheap, sneaking their little mini handgun in somewhere, doing something illicit with their little mini handgun and then hucking it into a ditch somewhere.
If the things didn't work worth a damn, there wouldn't have been this string, and the fact that these were singled out tells me that the law wasn't just reactionary, ill-informed, placative anti-gun nonsense like many of the other regulations in the Firearms Code.
I "inherited" several boxes of .32 from a friend and considered a 3032 but ended up getting a great deal on an 81BB. The bonus is it shares the holster for my 84FS.
"I'm what you'd call a professional." I need to get that on a business card.
Well put.
Hearing him say "bitchin" was the best thing ever lol
I have a Star .32 ACP that looks like a 3/4 scale 1911. It shoots straight, low recoil, very light, fits her hand nicely, and easy for my wife to use who doesn't like the weight or kick of a 9 mm. Obviously, the .32 is better to have than a 9 she wouldn't use. And while Paul is shooting at 10 yards, odds are my wife won't shoot until they are much closer, and she does have 10 rounds to use. I wouldn't recommend going out to get one, but we already had it.
And unfortunately, Walmart quit selling handgun ammo 9 months ago, and so the first place I found .32 ACP, it was $38 for Winchester. However, I have found Bass Pro Shops has it for $25.
Thanks for another excellent video, Paul.
"Bear with the long windedness of it" I love this channel for those long winded explanations. Really helps us understand where you draw your conclusions from instead of just saying "thats just how it is". Great video as always 👍
Paul’s vids are the best, hands down.
Excellent video, as always. Quick two year update: in December of 2019 you can't buy .380 ACP ammo at Wal-Mart...or .32 ACP...or 9mm...or .45 ACP...or .38 Special...or .357 Magnum...because Wal-Mart has decided that if you own a handgun, they don't want you as a customer. Challenge accepted.
Fug 'em!
Ima gunna go there tomorrow and see IF they have any ammo in calibers I need or want and IF the price is the Fire Sale kind I've been hearing about, chances are I'll be wearing out the wheels on one of their handicapped chairs and attached baskets.
Pray for me and my Credit Card!
LOL
I'm guessing more people have died in the Chinese factories walmart sources its slave labor from to try to crush the economies of small towns in the US than have died from ammo bought at walmart.
Walmart in california no longer sells ammo of any sort. They just ALL say the computer is down. Been weeks now.
You can't by horse feed there, either. M-Fers don't want you as a customer. They could carry horse feed, but they won't.
@@carlericvonkleistiii2188 Remember when Wal-Mart's CEO publicly advocated against horse ownership? Me neither. :)
Paul, you did all this in the rain for us. You sir deserve a like and subscribe from every viewer.
As a rabid fan of 32 ACP and on the "all pistol calibers are marginal" train, this is probably one of the best gun videos I have ever seen. Paul is thorough and to the point and gives a lot of great information and anecdotal evidence. Also, Beretta made a 32 ACP version of the M1934 called the M1935. I have one and it's great. I also have a Savage 1917 which is a very cool pistol. That being said, I agree with his conclusions. I think 380 is the lowest I'd go for self defense, but if I was accurate with a 32, I wouldn't feel undergunned, and I sure as hell wouldn't shoot the bastard only once. As Paul insinuated, the first rule of a gunfight is to bring a gun.
The 9 dislikes are his ex girlfriends. How could anyone not like this man.
Nah they'd like him too. Dislikes are from viewers with poor mouse aim.
Paul is the father I always wished I had.
He is a national treasure 🤨
Better than a sharp stick. Hell... George Patton carried one. Good enough for me.
By the way, I like that you're displaying the chronograph mean figures instead of going through the motions of firing them on camera. Saves time and gets to the point.
A sharp stick is better than the .45 you left at home
When Patton served a General Officer was issued a 32ACP Colt semiauto. I don’t know if Patton carried it. I have read he kept an M1 Carbine close by
@@Idahoguy10157 He also kept about a million Shermans nearby.
Alvin York carried one too.
Patton also made alot of imperfect decisions also as he is just a man. Patton also had the assurance of thousands of nearby soldiers with M1 garands and 1911s
I’ve had one of those 32 Beretta since 1993 I call it my summer gun I can shoot it great, it fits right in my pocket in a pocket holster and I’ve never once had a malfunction with it. Most of the other time now I carry My P365👍
Mark Aliberti ....same on both counts here. Tomcat in summer with shorts and 365 in winter with jeans.
I love all the beretta mouse Guns
Excellent, excellent video. I love the 32’s. Old and new
A few things have changed since this video was made. R. I. P. Walmart ammo sales.
LES my Walmart still sells ammo...
NO way ive been to like 4 diffrent ones all ammo less. Which state has pistol ammo still??
Robert Bogan I’m in southern Alabama.
I saw a small amount at one in north/ central Alabama in Late November or early December though that particular one may have just not sold all their old stock quite yet.
@Dream Theory You can also buy ammo online and have it delivered to your door (at least in Texas).
@@elmateo77 Most of the country. I get all my ammo online.
I’m in the platoon of I’d rather have any caliber over just my fist.
MIke tyson and george foreman would disagree.
2mm pinfire?
Always keep a pocket knife on you if a handgun isn't available.
Kelso lowk i carry 3 pocket knives on me for travel. A buck BLW,kershaw filter Blackwash, and a kershaw link blackwash tanto.
@@jessesimmons9238 i carry a Boker auto knife ak47 lol
That caliber was really popular in Brazil not too long ago but we didn’t call 32 ACP we call 7.65 (7.65 x 17mmSR or 7.65 Browning Short)
This particular presentation is one of my favorites on the topic of caliber for self-defense. It'll stay in my YT library as long as the photons remain retrievable.
Beretta Tomcat .32 ACP is an incredibly well-built, beautiful design that has fantastic fit and finish. Might not be the most powerful caliber, but an amazing pistol. Not good for bear defense for sure. Against the average perp it just might do the trick. Great informative video. Thanks !
rhino ranch my .32 seecamp is my fav gun to carry. I take it everywhere, beach sking you name it
The thing will crack if you repeatedly shoot loads over 130ft lbs. Even the new thicker slide models.
Have one...can put eight rounds in a group the size of a playing card. Love it.
Good afternoon! So ... is it reliable? I heard that it splits the frame! Would you recommend me?
@@rogerioalmeida4700 Beretta makes some of the best pistols and firearms in the world. Never heard of frame splitting. There were some issues with 9mm full size where the slides cracked, but that was addressed a long time ago. IMO Beretta Bobcat, Tomcat, and full size are some of the finest handguns ever produced.
This is the best gun channel on youtube.
You never waste my time, even though your videos are longer as frig.
Coming back to this playlist for noise while I keep my hands busy, and I'm greeted with that vintage badass 80s intro. Man, this is THE firearms channel.
In a shootout situation no body has ever thought "Oh gee I hope my opponent only has a 32 acp pistol!" The most deadly pistol bullets of all time is the lowly little weak 22 and 38 S&W.
first half of the 20th century, a lot of police in europe carried .32 acp.
The lsraeli " HIT TEAM " THE MOSSAD , swears with Their use of the .22LR BERETTA Pistol.
Its lethality can be traced with the trails of Dead Hit victims the MOSSAD Left in its wake..
@@johngraesser4911 32 saw lots of service in WW1
@@themoon7903 to be fair, I think the 32 was usually shot in a downward, short range trajectory. 😕
@@youtubeisinconsistent9169 😂
Only guy i ever believed when he said i killed a deer with a .25
Last night I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas I'll never know.
Chris Gilliam because they don't make a .26 Hur Hur hur
Ana L. Beads My wife and I just burst into laughter in the urgent care waiting room after reading your name! 😅
Dam Gar To be honest, youre one of the few. Haha
You can kill a deer with an ice pic if your close enough and it is still enough. This is irrelevant to actual self defense situations. I have enough family in law enforcement to know mouse calibers can can easily kill but can easily get you killed. Don't get anything less than .380 unless you have to. Put multiple shots on target. No reason to make unnecessary risks.
I think something people usually don't figure is if you have to use a .32 or .25 it isn't one shot at 7 yards. You probably empty the magazine at two or three yards. Put four rounds into someone of anything and it will probably discourage them. So if you have medical or strength issues or just something in your pocket when you take a walk, even a .25 can make a difference, plus you can shoot snakes in the yard.
In one of his videos he talks about carrying the NAA 22 lr or 22 mag. He said his dad carried the NAA 22 lr every day and all his dad's jeans had an imprint of the little revolver on the right front pocket. I know several folks who everyday carry the NAA 22 mag or lr. Paul was hitting head shots at 7 yds. I guess that's what matters the most.
And what do you do with an inaccurate little mouse gun if your attacker has a gun and he/she/it is more that two or three yards away? Or more than seven yards? Yes, yes, yes, the second law of surviving a gunfight is to have a gun (the first law of surviving a gunfight is to not get in a gunfight). But the third law is to be able to hit with it, under duress, and the farther away the better. And the fourth? Use enough gun.
The U.S. border patrol insists that its agents' handguns produce at least 400 fpe on impact, so you need a bit more at the muzzle. 9mm +P and +P+ will do that, 460-500 fpe. And several companies make tiny, high-quality 9mms these days.
Gosh, I decided to take John's advice. I now live in a bunker and no longer go anywhere without the 3/24th accompanying me. Soon as I can afford it, I'm adding an Air Wing to my holster, just in case.
Long, but excellently made video, with so much transparency it leaves almost no room for error or speculation, outside of your basic assumptions. Very well done, even if you'll probably never read this.
As usual, Paul makes thoughtful, thought provoking, and informative presentation.
A Mauser 7.65 (32 auto) came under my care some 20 years ago. After disassembly and cleaning, I purchased a box of Czech Sellier&Bellot 60gr. FMJ ammo and went to the range. I was pleasantly surprised with the tight action and accuracy at 5 to 7 yards. It is after all, a Mauser.
It now resides in an easily accessible hide under my desktop. Its stoked with Hornady 60gr. XTP rounds.
I'm sitting here watching this with my 3032 in my pocket... it happens to be my most carried pocket pistol
My personal opinion. I consider the .32ACP to be a viable cartridge, with the right load. That said, i personally have a low bar of .380ACP for my own personal carry. At the end of the day, it's a personal decision. If .32ACP will work for you, there is one thing to remember, SHOT PLACEMENT. I'd much rather see someone carry a smaller caliber, and be able to get good hits on the target, than to carry a bigger caliber and miss the target.
Great video. My two cents.
Dude, you are the most scientific gun channel on here. Definitely one of the best and most articulate on the entire internet.
Thank you for your dedication Paul.
My takeaway? Cola bleeds out more dramatically than cherry or orange soda.
Great presentation. I gotta admire your dedication to doing videos in the rain. On topic, I find that I'm not comfortable carrying less than a .380 ACP or .38 Spl. On the other hand, as you stated, I don't want to be on the wrong end of any of them, including a .22lr.
It's also better to shoot Shasta than to drink Shasta.
As usual, a very thorough presentation. Paul is the best. Answered some questions about all three pistol calibers I did not know. You are serious about the excellence of your presentation and it makes you very trustworthy source for good info. You do not seem biased out of the box but test everything that you assert. Thank you Paul👍🏼
I really like how thorough your review was. I really like your style of demonstrating the differences in great detail. 2 thumbs up if I could!
In the book "To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth", Jeff Cooper suggests the most effective way to employ pocket automatic caliber firearms was to acquire a flash center mass sight picture, and fire the entire payload of 7 to 9 rounds into the threat. His idea was that in doing so a 32acp was roughly equivalent to the payload of one round of 00 buckshot. With todays 380's like the Ruger LCP2 being the same size or smaller than yesterdays 32's I see little reason to handicap yourself with anything smaller than modern 380 defensive ammo.
I mean while im not shure i agree with the reasoning i will say that i do agree with the concept that someone getting shot 6 or 7 times is unlikely to continue presueing you
That "advice" would be hard to justify in court.
I've got a friend who likes to say "It's better than fingernails and foul language!"
James Cooper Your Friend is right!
He is probably a libtard and a soyboy.
Because of this video, I'm taking the JHP's out of the Tomcat & loading the Underwood extreme penetrators. Knowing is half the battle. Appreciate you sir
Watched many times, thanks for all you and crew did to bring us these videos!🍻
This guy would be the Sergeant Major you would want to stay very close to on an actual battlefield.
One thing many people forget is that there where zero antibiotics around when the .32 ACP was developed. I know I don't want to be shot by anything, but at least there is less of a chance of dying a week or so later due to infection now.
On a side note, look at all the .25, .30, and .32 rimfire small game rounds that were killed off by the introduction of the high velocity .22 Long Rifle cartridge after about 1930.
I'm aware this is a 5 year old video but keep doing what you're doing Paul.
Wow man, really well done. Thanks for making this!
Fantastic presentation, Paul. Not a lot of people would even consider .32 ACP, but there are still people who do carry them, and most importantly, to non-gun-people who might be looking to go out and buy a new handgun to keep in a night stand or dresser, the slew of older .32 ACP's for cheap could be a real attraction, compared to a big brick like a 9mm Hi-Point. This information is truly a great asset to people getting into gun ownership, not as collectors or shooters, but as base-level self defense. It's sort of like a video on how to check your oil- most "car guys" will already know how to do it, but to the uninitiated, the information is a great first step in educating people.
On a personal note, .32 ACP pistols can be a lot of fun on the range, but these days, I would be hard pressed to find a .32 that I would take over a .380 ACP, or a snubbie .38 loaded with some hot +P's.
Wonderful video... I love your videos because they are so informative and well spoken. You are a wealth of knowledge. Keep up the wonderful work
the shot at the end with Paul in the headlight and the tree silhouettes against the blue sky is pretty cool
Of all of the gun information channels I have found, yours is absolutely the best by a long way. Thank you SIr.