BERETTA 3032 TOMCAT...WHO WOULD CARRY THIS?
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- This is a tabletop review of the BERETTA 3032 TOMCAT .32 AUTO. In this video we will discuss the size, features and performance of the pistol. We will use another popular platform for size comparison and to help establish an idea of how it feel to carry based on similar sized model. We will discuss the range performance, including which ammunition was used and any problems that were encountered. In addition, we will explore different carry options for the pistol and report on what level of comfort was experienced. We will wrap up by discussion the overall impressions of the firearm and how it compares in features, reliability and value. Thanks for watching!
Nothing wrong with my tomcat. I won’t be storming the beaches of Normandy or clearing houses in Fallujah but for it’s intended purpose, it’s perfect.
It doesn't matter what someone carries. It can be a 22, 25, 32, 380, 38 Special, 9mm, etc. What matters is are comfortable carrying the weapon, and can you put rounds on the threat.
These small Beretta pistols are so fascinating.
Love my .22 LR Bobcat. Even my +1 likes it and she generally doesn't care for any gun I bring home.
I was concerned when I saw operators say the frames cracked, sometimes after one shot. I understand that the company beefed them up a little, but some are still breaking. I own a Ghostbusters model and it is Cerakoted so I have hopes it will last a while, but I am skeptical.
Those of you who criticize the caliber, remember the goal of self defense. It's not to win a fight or put someone in handcuffs, it's to break contact and get the heck outta there.
Lol most of the mafia murders were done with either a 32 or a 22...... lots of dead people would argue that this round sucks.
It’ll clean all the buggers out somebody’s nose…😜
Pretty sure one of these to the kisser will suck.
Put someone in hand cuff and win a fight can be done easy with 32acp.
Fighting multiple people, at distance no.
I've shot several animals with a 32acp and it immediately kills them. Goats, & dogs have thinker skulls than humans with humans having one of the weakest skulls from animals in its weight class.
If stronger animals immediately die in a head shot humans stand ZERO chance.
I've yet to have a animal survive a head shot
@@oscarbear7498Dad always told me: "It's not what you hit them with, it's where you hit them".
I have competing maladies, atrial fibrillation and hiatal hernia. This little pistol has proven a godsend. I'm sure that for many and perhaps most, it falls into the "better than nothing" category. For my purposes, it provides reassurance. Sure, I would prefer a more powerful cartridge, but this has come along at just the right time for me. I knew about these pistols for years. Mine has become a trusted companion.
It's an excellent firearm. I actually consider it to be one of the best self defense firearms ever created. It definitely has pro's and cons... but nothing has ever compared to it as far as I know. I know Taurus came out with the Pt-22 and Pt-25's, but they're DAO (which is okay)... but I don't know of any other DA/SA firearms of this size, especially with a tip up barrel. I really think Double Action (DA/SA) is the best option for concealed carry and there just isn't many DA/SA firearms of this size. Also, the .32 is far more capable than most people would believe. I know the 72gr ammo causes the frames to crack... but it's not hard to find the 71gr ammo. Underwood makes the Xtreme Defender ammo in .32ACP now, but I don't know if it runs in this gun. I would bet that it would and that it would protect against the frame from cracking, even if you get the hotter stuff.
The xtreme defenders are by far the best self defense round I've ever seen in smaller calibers (.380, 9mm, .32ACP). In .380 it literally outperforms nearly all 9mm rounds in terms of penetration, not over-penetrating and being By Far the most "barrier blind" round that has ever existed. You can shoot it through glass, drywall, bone, leather, fleece, thin sheet metal and many other things... but then it will STILL penetrate almost the exact same amount as if it never passed through a barrier. As good as it is though, I don't buy it myself, because I think it's priced unfairly.
Sorry to hear about the Atrial Fibrillation and Hiatal Hernia. I have the same. I never knew that the two were linked though (in the medical field), but I always knew they were (because I can feel it on a regular basis). I very strongly believe that other heart and especially lung problems are caused by the stomach also.
@@deucedeuce1572 thank you.
I had Trijicon Night Sights installed by ToolTech gun sights. Added grip extensions and had custom wood grips made by some guy in Texas. It's now a Beretta Alley Cat clone, but better looking. I have put a couple of thousand rounds through it without any malfunctions. My favorite pistol to this day.
What hardball ammo does it like? I just picked up an FDE and looking for ball ammo recommendations
Have you considered mounting a scope?
I got one with a scope
Great pistol. I initially bought it from my wife that I like to pocket carry it too. I did not realize for the first few years that I have it that it can be carried cocked and locked. Great feature
I owned one many years ago and I carried it then and I would Not hesitate to carry it again! Great little Gun! I now own it's little brother the Bob Cat which is the 22LR model and I also love this little Gun! They work for me!
I put a little red nail polish dot on the front sight (Inox). Looks like it came like it from the factory and I can tell it helps with picking up the sight quicker and my accuracy has improved for what it's worth :)
Nice! I used orange.
I used reflective shiny silver nail polish works like a charm
Glow in the dark orange
I have an Inox in a DeSantis pocket holster. It is the CCW I do carry. It may not be the one I want to carry, but its size allows you to easily slip it in your pocket as easily as a wallet. No need to change clothes or put on a holster or have some uncomfortable hunk of plastic or metal jammed against your body. The .32 ACP is perfectly suited to the size of the pistol allowing you to fire it with one hand if need be. As far as the bad guy was concerned, you were reaching into your pocket for that wallet...
I love mine and the fire ball it creates, I will say it’s not my favorite to carry with but I do still carry it from time to time.
I’ve had mine since 94 I call it my summer gun pretty much go anywhere. I got some underwood ammo and 32 and that’s what I carry in it now. Most of the research I’ve seen and read hollow points will not open up and you’re worried about penetration anyways.
I have many had guns and have had many professional roles in military and gov roles. I carry the new 21a in 22 a great deal mine is walnut checkered with suppressor threads. I found it reliable 500+ rounds and no failures or misfires. I use heavy Winchester super x. It does great and feels great in the hand and is accurate out to 25 yds. It is a great gun. I have many compact 9s and if I do not need to deal with barriers the 22 is great.
Carried a Tomcat as a deep backup. Rode nicely in my uniform pocket, behind my badge. Stoked it with either Winchester Silvertip or Speer Gold Dot
Most 32 ACP hollow points out of a short barrel are not going to expand not enough velocity so you're much better off just using FMJ hardball and get good penetration that way
Yep. 32 ball compares favorably within an inch or two of 380.
Fiocchi 60 grain HP do expand, at least the Italian version I carried from the late 90s to the mid 2000s.
@@chasrmartel4777 And if they do they won't penetrate enough, especially out of a pocket gun.
Thanks for letting everyone know. I’m new to smaller handguns and just purchased a 3032. I was going to get JHP rounds but hearing this I am just going to get FMJs.
Try Underwood fluted Xtreme Penetrators in 32.
These are great little guns, and the very first auto I personally ever fired. I must, however, give a cautionary tale because you mentioned pocket carry safety and that you consider this gun to be safe for it.
My dad owned literally 6 of these things in 25acp, and carried one in his pocket for a couple decades with no problems. His all came from either the 1960's or early 1970's and were actually this model's predecessor, called the Bobcat if I remember correctly. Then came that one day. He was carrying his favorite one, again in his pocket, when his old truck gave him a little trouble underneath. He did what most of us would do, and crawled underneath to see if he could fix it. He was wearing jeans at the time. Somehow, the hammer snagged on the cloth of his pocket, pulling it back just enough that when it slipped free, the gun fired! He was carrying a 25acp version at the time. The bullet travelled down the front of his thigh, leaving a nice little channel carved into the muscle, before turning inward just above the knee and came to rest just against the top of the knee cap. I'll never forget his first words, "Damn, I need a bigger gun!" He crawled out from under the truck and we took him to the hospital to remove the bullet, which he carried as a good luck charm the rest of his life.
I understand these are technically two different models, but they are really just different executions of the same design. If you plan on pocket carrying one, at least get yourself a good, leather, pocket holster that encloses the hammer so you don't end up with a good luck charm like my dad did.
As for dad's statement about a bigger gun, he sold all 6 of his Berettas and bought a S&W 38 Spc Centennial for pocket carry instead, which he carried until he died.
Do you happen to know if the safety was on at the time? I think that's a valuable piece of information to have when deciding if this is safe to pocket carry.
@@rodneyws1977 I can't be certain this many years later, and unfortunately dad is no longer around to ask, but I don't think it was engaged. It is supposed to be safe to carry with the safety off.
@@Hillbilly-Bob, thank you for the response.
@@rodneyws1977 I have a newer model of tomcat and I think a round could be set off with the safety on should the hammer not be pulled at least far enough to put it in half cock. There doesn't seem to be any safety mechanism (other than half cock) that would prevent a moving hammer from striking the firing pin without the trigger being pulled.
@@ancavalcanti92, appreciate your response too. I've read through the manual and we all know how manuals are. If the lawyers had their way, we'd all walk around with unloaded firearms. The manual is clear that half-cocked is a bad idea... like it specifically calls it out. Can you explain why you think half-cocked with the safety on is safer than hammer down with the safety on?
One of the best self defense firearms ever invented (Concealed Carry). 32acp is far more capable that people would believe. It was Browning himself that invented it... and also the .25ACP. These calibers were extremely popular at the beginning of the 20th century and especially up to and throughout the 50's and into the 60's. It's only since then that they became less common... but I believe they will be popular again in the coming years. People are always interested and happy to hear about the smaller guns like the Baby Browning, Bernardelli, NAA revolvers and other firearms like that... and I always hear people saying "I would carry a gun if I had one of those"... or "I would carry every day if I had one of those"... so I think they're a good way to get new people interested in concealed carry.
Nice little pistol. My 32 ACP is not small enough for a pocket gun but I have carried it in an IWB holster. It is a CZ VZ 50 made in 1951. Not a fist choice for carry but it is accurate, reliable and will do its job if I do mine 😁. My pocket carry is a S&W M&P Bodyguard 380. Great video, thanks for the information.
Great video. Thanks for pointing out the possibility of slide bite.
Just picked up one of these. FDE with threaded barrel. On sale, and with $75 rebate from Beretta. Incredibly small.
Great review ...Im glad that you brought to the attention of what a given firearm intended purpose is...
This is the first of your videos I've seen. Found it because I'm interested in the 3032. Was able to watch while I was washing dishes, on my Kindle, .Was able to hear every word. I didn't miss the loud music, needlessly long intros used by most tubers. Beretta is offering a $150 rebate now so if I can find a good price maybe I can get one. I've liked and subscribed and looking forward to more videos.
Welcome aboard!
It's my daily carry primary gun, with a Ruger SP101 357 as a backup at times. It is so easy to carry and shoot.
Honestly, mine is in my waistband this very second. I have choices and this one is especially nice lounging about the home or on property where the random chance of encounter is about .000000000001%. None the less, I still carry it out and about, sometimes also with a .32 ACP Seecamp in my pocket. I've had a few other .32s sold them, mostly older surplus guns, functional but not nearly as fun IMHO. The most fun of the .32s is easily the VZ61 Skorpion, its an absolute joy, I just wish ammo was free. I've fired mostly FMJ Fiocchi ammo, no issues and these guns are surprisingly powerful despite the smaller cartridge size. Most of the time, people are shooting guns at paper targets at a gun range, so you never really see what one of these little zippers can do. If you shot a few through a burn barrel and watched the impacts into the soft earth you wouldn't think it was so weak and puny anymore as most people believe.
I'm about to buy a Tomcat Inox as an ankle gun, and for being armed at home much like you described. I've always wanted one. I conceal a Polymer 80 PF940c (G19) as my main gun when out and about, would be nice to have a real compact gun with a company I trust with quality craftsmanship for an ankle gun. Also, I bought two Vz61 parts kits, one in .32 and the other in .22lr. I am currently 3d printing out a CZAR v2 frame for the .32 and a Vs22 frame for the .22, the final frame should be done in about 4 more hours. You should Google those frames, they're really neat looking. I can't wait for the parts kits to come in, I ordered them yesterday. I would just build a regular Vz61 pistol, but I would like to have a stock or pistol brace so I'm going with the 3d Printing option at the moment with a small folding brace. I might get another parts kit and put in for a tax stamp to SBR it so I can have it with the original configuration (minus full auto) with the overfolding wire stock, that would be sweet. I've always wanted a Vz61 since I saw one as a boy in a movie back in the 90s.
Edit: now that I remember, I'm just going to buy a Tomcat parts kit and just 3d print the frame. There are so many gun models you can 3d print out there now, I mean ffs you can fully 3d print a CZ EVO3 Scorpion aside from barrel and bolt of course, and they've been tested with thousands of rounds in full auto by the designers with zero issues. Mine won't be full auto though 😢. You should get into the hobby, it's fun as hell, especially when the gun functions flawlessly, gives me a real sense of pride in my work and I cherish the gun more than I do if I were to buy it. Get an Ender 3 v2 printer, I got mine for $200 and it does beautiful prints and good strong filament is cheap as well. You can print a Glock frame for about $10 in plastic materials.
@@Wimmig43at339 I had no idea there was a tomcat model out there, that's awesome. I bet the parts kits have gone up in price but I might have to look into that
@@quark_E yeah the prices are usually pretty high for a parts kit from what I’ve seen, if you build one it’ll probably end up costing more than buying an actual one. But I just love building guns, I have 12 so far that I’ve made. :)
Entertaining review. Thank you. I even sat through all of the commercials 😉
I finally bought one 😊
I have a Tomcat Inox. It is beautiful like its big brother, my 92 FS Inox. My Tomcat has almost a perfect trigger for carry, I use a Blackhawk No.1 in the pocket and a Crossbreed Hybrid IWB. I LOVE it. But, I won't admit how much I paid for each Berettas.
No shame here, Beretta makes great firearms
new sub here ... great job on the vids .. super thorough and informative. My edc is either a bersa thunder 380 plus or the 43x. Super great to find your channel! hope your day is going great
Thanks, and welcome aboard!
Underwood makes viable defense rounds for it. Love mine. And Beretta model 81. LOK makes great grips for the cheetah range.
They fit in a Nite Eyez Mini Mag Lite belt holster too. The but sticks out, but no one has ever noticed and I didn't need a concealed carry permit to carry that way.
I had the 21A .22 LR with smooth rosewood grips and because of it's size and the fact that I could carry it in my front pocket of my blue jeans or shorts, it was my favorite summer time carry. I loved that gun!! The only quirk that pistol had was it's affinity for premium ammunition such as Stingers or Mini Mags and it's definite distaste for the cheaper brands. Federals and Winchesters would start out fine but eventually they would jam the gun. Enough times that not only did I know better then to run the cheapies through it but I wouldn't buy them if the good ones weren't available either. Comparatively speaking, it was like a whole different gun using the good stuff but something you'd sell quickly if you shot junk through it. And my Beretta Centurion isn't nearly as finicky!!! Anyway, I hadn't thought about a .32 ACP version but after this great video I AM NOW...
Had little bobcat 22 like a fool I sold it still got my Tomcat 32 and I'm keeping it.😊
Thanks for the video. Nicely displayed and detailed. I have also used PMC 32acp 71gr FMJ. Most often is at a much better cost and I've had good results with it.
I own one in stainless, love it !
Another advantage of the tip up barrel in the Beretta tomcat the Beretta bobcat both 25 and 22 and the continued Jetfire 950 BS in 25.. the advantages it makes it easy to make the gun safe load and unload it. Check. the chamber..
I carry the Taurus PT 22 now and plan to purchase the Tomcat as a step up. My hands have grown weak and can no longer rack a slide. The tip up barrel is real handy. Too bad they stopped the .380 or made a 9mm version.
I had the Tomcat back in the 90's and had so many issues Beretta bought it back from me. Got a 21A Bobcat in .25 and carried it in my vest pocket nightly . . . excellent little 'mouse' gun and it came in handy a couple times. The .32 ammo is hard to find and expensive . . . .25 is bad enough, .32 is worse. But, very small and handy little gun.
the tip up barrel is genius
For those who think this is a wimpy round a fellow cop was shot w/a .32 many years ago, before vests. The round hit his leather uniform jacket chest high and stuck in the lining. It did not break the skin but did leave a huge bruise, knocking him off the police motorcycle. To say he was lucky is an understatement.
Just bought one just for my beretta collection.
I use Fiocchi in several 32 acp guns. The bullet diameter on most US rounds, are bit too skinny to grab the rifling well, also kinda anemic. I've also found on PMC, in particular, that the rim is thinner, adding to headspace. Also, that the ramp between rim and case body is too narrow and steep. The Beretta is more an in-line feed, and that ramp issue doesn't affect it much.
Do recommend Fiocchi ball? I’m just got a tomcat and wondering what functions well…?
Thanks for mentioning the dagger-like rear of the slide. I love this pistol, but mine cut me so badly, I still have a scar from it. Wasn't paying attention and made a real mess at the range. Still feel bad about it.
I have a forty year old scar on my left thumb from my dad's Walther PP.
I have my choice of literally any carry handgun I want and I have routinely carried all of the popular makes and models. However, I find myself carrying the 21A and 3032 Berettas more often than not. Kept clean with good ammo, these pistols perform reliably and accurately. The 32 Auto or 22LR are not thought of as major manstoppers. However, these pistols can be reliable, accurate and have enough round capacity to handle business on 2 or 3 attackers. A CCW's purpose is to drive off the attackers, not to get into a sustained gun battle. Plus I really like the newer models that have threaded barrels. Both the 21A and 3032 are fun as all get out to shoot suppressed. Any serious shooter that does not own a Beretta tip-up barrel pistol is really missing out. PS- for the last 4 months of 2023, Beretta has been offering a $150 rebate on all Tomcats and Bobcats which ends at the end of 2023 (as far as I know). That puts the final cost at $300-$350 depending on where you purchase is from. Super good deal!
I love mine and carry it a lot.
People always complain about a 22 for self-defense I don't know about them but I don't want to get hit by no type of caliber bullet
Interesting gun. Excellent video.
Bought a .25 Jetfire in 1984..love it to death...
I have yet to buy one (price is often too high) but I will, and yes, I would carry it. I've got quite a few 32's and carry some of them already. I'm even getting into reloading for 32. Just a fun gun/caliber.
What other make/models are chambered in 32? I've never seen any other weapon.
@@wingnutmcspazatron3957 Hi Wingnut! I have a Beretta Model 81 (Cheetah) in .32, a Zastava M70, and a very old Alkar. KelTec has a P32 that I don't have yet and a long list of others. Walther PPK, Seecamp, Colt 1903, and there are some other Milsurps too. Don't even get me started on revolvers...😂😂
Building on what Marc points out, there is also the NAA Guardian in 32acp. The guardian line pulls heavily from Seecamps though.
Some may think it is too thick, but that makes it easier to grip as a backup pistol …it is closer in size to many full-size or compact carry pistols so you don’t have to adapt to a minuscule grip.
They should be made for man hands
@@zogbot5103But then you wouldn’t be able to hold it 😁
I carried this gun as a SECOND back-up gun (Primary handgun plus 2 backups) when assigned specific missions for my agency. Let’s just call it, “Onion field insurance” gun.
I did get bit by that slide when I owned mine. Sold it. Not a beginner’s gun. I was when I bought mine. Kinda want one again.
I believe that the Glock 42 “little peopled” the Tomcat. Words are more deadly than guns. But seriously, thank you for the video. Very informative!
I plan on getting 1 next year. It will b added to the pocket carry rotation. Along with a J-frame and LCP II.
As a 50 + year gun owner, user, and carrier, I say that a person trained on the Tomcat is so much more effective then a person untrained on their 9mm or 45 cal.
I have a Tomcat, love the looks, but it is a problematic gun. I bought the Inox version in 2020, and the trigger return spring broke with only a few hundred rounds through it. Rather then return it to Beretta, I fixed it myself. Several months later the frame cracked at the usual place. I never used any ammo with pressure above 129, but it broke anyway. Beretta replaced it with a new gun, which I only rarely shoot. I’ve been shooting for 60 years, owned a lotta guns, and the Tomcat is the only one that ever broke, and this one broke twice. They are cool looking, but are not real robust.
I have been shooting Beretta compact and sub-compact pistols for forty years, and found them to be robust, reliable, easy and fun to shoot. I bought a couple of the 3032 Tomcats last week, an INOX and a Covert; and the Covert was screwed up from the factory. It was single-action only; the trigger did not engage with the hammer down, but you could carry it cocked and locked. Before I sent it back to Beretta, I read around online and found all the reports of issues, failures and cstastrophic frames cracking, and I'm kind of put out with Beretta for selling me these junk pistols.
@robertshirley1192 it's funny because every glock I touched broke, never had problems with sig, smith, colt or berreta.
Glocks are useless for me 😂
@@trollmastermike52845 I believe you, but tell me; Glocks are ugly, with the ergos of a particulary rough brick, but how do you break one? I believe much of their reputation for reliability is in their outstanding, magazines, but most people find them as reliable as or more reliable than any other make.
@@robertshirley1192 trigger bar was fubar from factory, and I had a bad firing pin.
I carried the Tomcat from the late 90s to the mid 2000s. Great handling and accurate shooter. The problem is no extractor if the round fails. G42 is what I carry now along with a .32 H&R mag S&W snubbie.
Of course the Beretta has an extractor. It's the little swiveling lever on the left side of the frame, in front of the grip. Push the lever. And the barrel pops up, extravting the cartridge and dropping it at your feet. 😆
@@robertshirley1192 If the shell is stuck you have to drive it out. I carried both the bobcat and tomcat for more than 10 years. There are better options today.
@@chasrmartel4777 yeah; though the way you worded it, "if the round fails", would imply an unfired cartridge in the chamber, which ought to be tossed out when the barrel pops up.
I got to hold one today and it definitely feels amazing compared to the lcp. It feels like its not a tiny gun and the single double action is sweet
Good video, thanks. I have one I carry in a DeSantis pocket holster. At 7 yards, it is challenging to get any grouping. I tried PCN 32. ACP HP and got jams and stove pipes. They were 60 gm. For the standard 71 gm FMJ, I have no issues. And the cost of ammo is expensive. I painted the front sight with two coats of fluorescent orange enamel (model) paint. Works well. I also had a case that failed to eject; removing the empty case can be hard. I found the best and quickest way to clear the spent case is by inserting a ballpoint pen down the barrel. And I have scars between my thumb and forefinger from the slide bight. I like the look and feel. I have woodgrain grips and a Nichol-colored pistol. I see that Underwood ammo may work well. I will have to try those.
I carry it with the underwood ammo and have found it to be surprisingly accurate coming out of the tomcat
@@JayReacio is that the 55 grain LeHigh Xtreme Defender?
@@starkruzen precisely. I’ve been hitting point of aim at 10-15 yards with that round. I would caution that the +P version does exceed beretta’s 130 ft/lbs threshold, but the non +p is well lower and it meets the FBI requirements for a self defense round which is insane coming from a 32 ACP, that extreme defender round goes in all my handguns, it turns anemic calibers into viable self defense options
@@JayReacio have you had any problems with the round causing cycling problems? I tried the CNC rounded hollow point and they would cause stove piping or would not eject.
@@starkruzen if I have a full magazine loaded and I put one in the barrel then I’ll have a hung up slide when inserting the second round, if I take one round out of the magazine this alleviates this problem, it might be that my tomcat isn’t fully broken in as finding target rounds can be a bit difficult.
This "mouse" gun It fits in my pant or coat pocket and is very concealable. With training and practice, you can choose to kill or to injure the attacker. The Tomcat effective within 20 to 30 feet, which is undoubtedly a defensive distance. The Tomcat is good for the "normal" threat encounter; however, if I were in an all out fire fight, I would want a 9mm Beretta 92.
You never shoot to injure you only shoot to kill. Or at least that’s what lawyers say.
@@NittyGritty420 I prefer to shoot to STOP. I would never say the "K" word. LOL.
@@cannondaleman1 yeah I guess that’s a better way to phrase it. But I still stand by my statement that it’s not ever acceptable to shoot to injure
@@NittyGritty420 I totally agree with that part! This might sum it up...
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Casper, I have both the 92fs and the Tomcat (INOX), and love them both! Did I mention I also have the Bobcat in INOX and an M9 - 22. Holsters for all x2! Need I say more?
A Tomcat is light enough to carry for Seniors and small people. It also has a caliber that can use hollow point shells that expand on contact. Finally, you can have it loaded right off without racking the gun. It has a pop-up barrel. It is a double action gun. The trigger has a force, it at first, of 10 pounds. However, after the first shot, the trigger becomes very light. You can also pull back the hammer on the first shot. It is one of the safest guns to carry ready to fire!
I have a friend that has one that I've shot a bit. His is 100% reliable, soft shooting and accurate. You can easily hit a pop can at 15 yards with it. If you're getting bullet tumble Id return it to Beretta. This is not normal for this gun. I've been on the range many times with several people shooting the Tom Cat and have not seen the evidence of bullet tumble. When people ask "what should I buy for my wife" I suggest this gun because it's easy for them to load with the tip up barrel. the recoil is very light, it's very safe to carry and offers more power than a 22LR or 25 ACP. It makes a perfect purse gun for them.
However, IMO it's just too thick in the grip for an ideal deep concealment pistol. I find a Ruger LCPII 380 to be a better choice for those who can handle the additional recoil and need a deep concealment pistol. IMO an even better option is one of the micro 9mm like my Sig P365
All great observations...It's strange about the bullet tumble but I have 3 of them and they all do the same thing. Ammo has been hard to find, but I have a few other brands of .32 ordered and I plan to try them and record the results. A follow-up video may be in order. Thanks for watching!
@@TheConcealedCarryChannel Very strange. It makes me wonder if a change was made at some point to the diameter of the bore. The bullet is so short that it doesn't take much rifling twist to stabilize it. But if the bore is oversize that could introduce tumbling. Like you said at the ranges it is to be used the tumbling isn't present and wouldn't make much difference. It would just be better if it didn't tumble. Maybe another subscriber will have some additional info on this.
I have the Inox version. Please be sure to address the .32 ACP ammo specification with muzzle energy less then 130ft/lbs. Higher muzzle energy +P ammo can crack the frame and Beretta won’t warranty it either.
PMC Bronze .32 ACP 71gr Full Metal Jacket
Specifications:
- Caliber: .32 ACP / .32 AUTO
- Bullet Weight: 71 Grains
- Bullet Style: Full Metal Jacket
- Case Type: Brass
- Muzzle Velocity: 900 FPS
- Muzzle Energy: 126 FT LBS
- Reloadable: Yes
- Lead Free: No
- Primer: Boxer
- Corrosive: No
- 50 Rounds Per Box
- 1000 Rounds Per Case
- 20 Boxes Per Case
Federal Premium Personal Defense 65gr Hydra-Shok JHP (950 Feet/Sec and 130 FT/LBs)
-Winchester Super-X Silver Tip 60gr JHP (970 Feet/Sec and 125 FT/LBs)
-Speer Gold Dot JHP (960 Feet/Sec and 123 FT/LBs)
-Prvi-Partisn 71gr FMJ (902 Feet/Sec and 129 FT/LBs)
-Remington UMC 71gr FMJ (905 Feet/Sec and 129 FT/LBs)
-CCI Blazer 71gr FMJ (900 Feet/Sec and 128 FT/LBs)
Are you using the FPS off the box or chronographing the speed and calculating the real muzzle energy... remember out of shorter barrels your fps is sometimes quite a bit lower making your muzz le energy also less... usually the fps on a box are from a full size pistol
@@sparky_-mf2cs Factory specs. These are compiled suggestions from other Tomcat 3032 owners who have used these specific ammos specs to avoid cracking the frame and be under warranty. I’ve been only using PMC 71 gr and put over 500 rounds through it w/out any issues.
@@DesmoSD ive also herd people using the recommended ammo and still cracked... like i said the specs are out of a longer barrell typically 4 inch for.32.acp testing ...baretta needs to be alot more clear..for example fiocci 73 gr only travel about 850 in a short barrell 2.7 which would mean the muzzle energy is less than 120 ft lbs. Still under the "recommended " 130 ft lbs but the specs.will tell you its 160 ft lbs... thats put of a 4 or 5 inch barrell...ammo companies are known for using a longer barrel to make ther ammo look more powerfull
@@sparky_-mf2cs Completely agree and unless one has the means to test the speed, more power to them. Some owners were fortunate to have had Beretta honor their warranty while some weren’t. That Fiocchi 73 that you’ve mentioned has been known to crack frames so I wouldn’t try it or recommend it regardless of the math.
I’m just passing on the information. I haven’t had any issues with PMC 71gr and will continue to use that ammo.
@@DesmoSD ive never herd the fiocci 73 crack frames. But ther is a 60 grain fiocci ( forgot exactly which one. Might be the sjhp) that is pretty hot. Has more muzzle energy than the 73 gr. That i wouldnt use in a tomcat...i feel you though if i could always find the "safe" ammo i would use it but ammo is hard to find these days so im using watever i can find 😆
Is .32 enough? Watch the Ronald Reagan assassination attempt by John Hinkley. He used a snubnosee .22 revolver and took-out a Washington Police Officer, a Secret Service Agent and James Brady. The payoff with the .32 acp Tomcat is follow-up shots on target. It has almost no recall or muzzle flip. You can empty the magazing into a hand sized grouping in 2 seconds from 7 yards. It would take months of training to confidently do that with a single stack 9mm if you could achieve it at all.
I HAD ONE CARRIED IN MY BACK POCKET . FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS
PERFECT FOR CONCEALED CARRY WEAPONS
NO PROBLEM.
ITS COMPACT LIGHT AND WILL PUT DOWN A GIANT.
2 HEAD SHOTS.
DOUBLE TAP.
Great video. I went to the Tagua site and could not find the holster you featured in the video. Can you tell me which one it is please
I love these little pistols.
Love my Tomcat. It’s one of my edc’s depending on the season/ situation. To those who say the .32 auto is weak for edc and self defense I disagree. This is an up close and personal round and with proper shot placement it’s more than adequate.
I have had em in 22 lr and 25 auto but not the 32. I do own a PPK in 32 and love it. I also have two 25 autos by Browning (colt) My PPK is 32. To me? 25... 32...380 pocket guns? they will all work and are all very capable of failing to 'stop' but... they are all that gun that you actually have which is better than the one at home. On the other end is my Smith 340PD in .357 magnum. it fits in my front pocket and weighs 12 oz.. this is easy to carry. on the slide... I am not weak but tiny little blow back pistols are difficult to work the slide because you simply can't get a good grip and it is worse if you are sweaty or rain or whatever. The tip up barrel is genius
What is model number of holster. Can’t find it. Also do they make a iwb holster for gun and mag combo that you recommend? Thanks for video
Great overview. The 3032 also has a half-cock, a safety feature in case you drop it on its hammer. For those with model 21A (22LR or 25ACP), you'll notice the Tomcat is thicker, largely due to the .32 caliber.
Wrong. The 3032 half cock is not meant for that purpose. The manual specifically says to not carry with it half cocked. If the gun is dropped in the half cock position the impact could break the hammer notch, and/or sear, causing the hammer to strike the firing pin.
@@350CL Thank you sir
@@AlMacasaet Your Welcome.
Worth looking at, and evaluating the slide bite potential…
Mine bites me if I don’t pay attention - but I still love it 😊
With any small barrel pistol at range the bullet will tumble and keyhole the paper. My father bought the exact same 3032 (and is his carry pistol) with the same safety lever. I remember reading the owner's manual recommended Winchester Silver Tip JHP's.
The early blued ones had a problem with the frames cracking, Ive owned several inox ones,which unfortunately had to be sold,but I thought it perfect as a pocket gun
One of mine is from 1996, and probably has 3000 or so rounds through it. No problems to date and hopefully that luck will hold. Great little guns.
@@TheConcealedCarryChannel what type of ammo do you use if you dont mind me asking?
Some people simply make the “relief cut” over the crack and have no problems going forward. The crack occurs in a thin, aluminum strip that covers the trigger mechanism. If it cracks and the relief cut is not made, the crack area can buckle up and interfere with the slide recoil action.
what year was your Tomcat made? it has a smaller thumb safety, like the Bobcat does. Both of mine have the longer thumb safety (which is a problem when changing the grips out)
My special sights on the Tomcat was designed by an expert. It's front sight is round and bright!
Great video, I just ordered my Tomcat and called about the IWB holster you showed in the video. Tagua asked me what model holster it is. Can you tell me the model holster you have, I would really appreciate it, Thanks
Might buy one for target shooting.
I bought one of these about two years ago from a friend who was selling it for his mom. It was part of a collection her late husband had, and they offered it to me for what the local gun shop was gonna give her for it at $200. Looks brand new, and was black like this one but with wood grips. I think I did ok for that. What do y’all think? I also got a 181 serial Ruger mini 14 for $300 that looks brand new too.
You got a great deal.
great deal on two firearms I like an awful lot, I own both. watch the ammo on the tomcat, keep it within the energy spec. It is a fine shooting pistol, i like the DA/SA and tip up barrel. it quickly replaced my seecamp in 32 as a regular carry pistol.
Did it have a threaded barrel on it? If so, that's one of the newer production Covert models which are around $650 new.
@@HTacianas no threaded barrel
Dang you got ripped off… I’ll tell ya what.. since I’m such a nice guy I’ll give ya 200 for it so you can recoup that money you loss. 😂
Carried mine today
I carry the 22 Bobcat and it works all the time shoots accurate to 20 yards and punches through a 2x4 everytime. A lot of my 9mm and others stay at home due to size and concealability.
So much for waiting until next year to buy 1. Just found it on sale for $400 w/ a $150 Rebate from Beretta. So only $250 + tax/ship. Wow!!!
Excellent Gun !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd carry it, !!! no doubt !!!!!!!!!
Thks
I have improved on the grip. I have an extended magazine to support the small finger. This makes the gun much more accurate.
I bought one about 15 years ago. It had a terribly gritty trigger and I soon sold it. Maybe Beretta has fixed that problem since then.
The first pistol I ever bought. I like the double action feature. My only problem is I have huge hands. Detailed @13:30 The slide when it comes back it will slice your hand if you don't keep your hand down below the slide. Ask me how I know. I started writing this before he stared talking about this scenario. And was surprised when he mentioned it. Great gun if you have average to small hands. Mine is double action with forward trigger until you cycle the first round, then the trigger is back farther after that.
I’ve got fairly small hands and have still been bitten several times. Odd to me that I’ve never been clipped by my Bobcat. Probably just lucky. Really like these pistols though.
I carried a 950s for years, my only nagging concern was the 25 Cal. chambering, 32 is better but still some light.
I have the 3032 tomcat inox
i wish they made the 22 version with real night sights and a bull barrel i would own one im on the fence right now getting the standard version
maybe I missed it but what model holster is that? I'm on the site, can't find one that matches
What are thoughts about keeping the hammer back withe safety on. Less safe I know , BUT that safety is so tight, it still feels safe to me. I’m sacrificing safety for a hair trigger pull with the first round, as long as it’s in a good holster? Full disclosure; I am guilty of the sin of only rarely practicing. If I did that I would be proficient at that long trigger pull. I think I just answered my own question. 😑
I have it. I never use the safty because its single action double action. The first shot will be a long hard trigger pull and then it will follow up in single action. It can be half cocked. That way the first trigger pull is not as long but still firm. 2 advantages. Less likely to snag and go off in the pocket and if it is dropped on the trigger in half cock, it wont go off.
Great guns for some
Nice video, I actually enjoy these videos. Have you ever had to use a concealed weapon? Is it so dangerous where you live, you need to carry? I can see where it offers a certain sense of security.
Concerning concealed carrying... there are crazies even in the nicest small towns. The best reponce time for 911 is 5 mins. You are your own best first reponder.
@@robertbranstetter3900 THIS.
Have you ever had to use an extinguisher? There that much arson where you live to need an extinguisher at home?
Have you ever had to use your car seat belt? There that much car crash you need to buckle your belt?
Carrying is just a way to protect your butt if something happen. In the hope nothing will never happen.
In my country it's illegal to carry. There murder everyday who would be avoided if people carried a gun for their personal defence...
Lots of people carry a 32. Including me.
MY father was a detective and he carried it as a belly gun. He passed away and I gave it to his friends son who uses it for the same purpose.
There was a long and common problem with a crack in the frame. Beretta only approve low power rounds. I had that problem even in the inox model. The crack ruins the slide cycle and the pistol is then useless and impossible to repair.
Seriously? I assumed that, even out of warranty, Beretta would install your parts "kit" on a new frame, for a hundred bucks plus shipping.
Cant find the holster in their website.
Concealable double action to single action means a lot to me.
I want to find a minimalist holster like a raven concealment with lanyard so I can put this in a purse. Any ideas?
My INOX is having the barrel tip up spring as we speak.
The Sigs and Glocks are about the size of my Hellcat in 9mm so zero advantage there. I'm considering a TomCat because I want something small with just enough bullet to get it done. 9 mil is as small as I've ever gone. Quite honestly I never thought it was a good round - I was .45 and .357 all the way but 9mm is a great utility round as I've learned. So why a .32? First, only because of the TomCat, it fits my needs for an easy to carry point and shoot break contact defensive weapon plus - it will injure and or kill. I'm talking sudden encounters at a gas pump, ATM or on a sidewalk stroll. It's not for gunfights. There are ammos like the hydra shock that will get the job done. One other reason for the TomCat, numerous designer rounds were fed through its closest competitors, notably the Seecamp and even the Seecamp couldn't swallow it all but everything fed through the TomCat worked - no feed failures or jams. The TomCat is a smooth easy to manage shooter and one thing that guides me now is this 'rounds on target are more important than size of the rounds'. Any time you put some rounds of any caliber into someone their desire to persist decreases dramatically.
Had to return for repair a 3032 Tomcat, was just informed that Beretta WILL not repair I was offered eithers Apx 1 compact now or a tip up .32 when(if) Beretta releases one for sale as they no longer make the 3032! Very not happy with Beretta.
This may be a good pistol but it is not comparable to the tomcat in size I bought the tomcat for it's size and DA/SA trigger with manual safety and tip up barrel. Have a canik TP9SF elite which is probably as good if not better than Apx 1 compact..
End of rant.