BEST DYNAMIC STUDIO MICROPHONE: Vocal Mic Shootout, Shure, Neumann, Sennheiser
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- Comparing the Shure SM58, Shure SM7b, Sennheiser e945 and Neumann KMS105 microphones on vocals in my studio with reference to the live sound world too.
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For a more detailed review of the SHure SM7b, click here: ruclips.net/video/LSWxdKakgu4/видео.html
0:54 - SM58
1:43 - e945
2:42 - KM105
3:49 - SM7b
E945 for me. I better reduce some high frequencies, than having to get every other frequency EQqued to unmask my voice.
yeah, you can't add clarity later
I think the Sennheiser sounds very good and musical. The highs are emotionally engaging
The highs are very clear aren’t they. I use this mic live for vocals. Cuts through any mix
945 is the only mic I would use live …..I will take it over the 105 personally
I’m partial to the 945. I’m older and find it’s the easiest to find my voice in a live scenario. By that I meant that if go want to go softer, I can hear my voice without having to raise my volume. That’s an essential component when storytelling and emphasizing emotion.
Really digging the sound of that SM7b. Great job.
Jake Jones Thanks Jake. It is my go to mic now, just needs plenty of gain.
great video, loving the sound of the ksm105!
Thanks. Yes, it’s a lovely mic 👌
I like the shure sm58 . It sounds natural , neutral , smooth and warm. The e945 sounds really sharp and bright
Great review bro.
Definitely like the e945
Loads of detail in the upper mids and highs
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I use KMS 105 for live vocals and use it with the T1 Bose Tonematch. I also have the Sure SM58 Beta for spare but it doesn't use Phantom power of course. Ive also tried other Mic's over time. The KMS 105 uses Phantom Power so I can compare them all in the same system. The KMS 105 blows the others away to be honest, it's quality is exceptional.
great review!
Donovan Capron Thanks Donovan
Neumann has the most natural and flat sound...seems like it controls the nasty resonances of the vocals itself...it's so smooth.
I got the e945...and with proper tweeks and if u have a good preamp ...for live it just have loads for musical character
If budget permits, I think the sm7b and the kms 105 are KILLER for any context - live and studio.
Music & Leadership I agree. Great mics. You just need a killer condenser mic to cover all bases, such as the JZ Mics v67 currently on sale at 50% off 🤘🔥
Awesome! 🎤🔥🔥🔥 E945 is my favorite live mic as well💪 but I would not use it in studio. It sound like someone is shouting directly on your ear. 😁
Vu Le Ha. This is a great description 🤘
super helpful thank you!!
You’re welcome.
I own everything here except the SM7b, thus why I looked it up haha. But yes you said it best, KMS105 has so much details it almost seems like it can pick up your thoughts too haha
Haha. Great description. I still use the SM7b for everything though, it’s just so smooth.
I own every mic you reviewed here. I've used a KMS105 as my live and studio mic for the past 5 years. it is my favorite live vocal mic. I don't agree with your comment about losing volume when singing off axis. It easily has the largest sweet spot of any mic you reviewed, which is one of the main reasons I bought it, because I'm tethered to a bass or guitar most of the time and I'm not able to stay right on the mic. (I typically sing 5-6" from the mic). It also has the best rejection of low end proximity effect, so it is fairly even and smooth as you mentioned. (If you're looking for proximity effect, then the KMS105 is not the mic to do it). But I'd crank that gain a bit more and create that 5-6" halo of sound around your head, 'cause the mic can handle it without feedback fine.
How does the kms105 deal with feedback on live stage monitors??
@@rudygomez6996 Excellent, IMO, as long as your wedges are ridiculously cranked (then any mic will feed back). I've rarely had it feed back for me, though I've since switched to IEMs. This is from Sound on Sound's review: "It is configured to provide a very well‑defined supercardioid polar response which varies little with frequency and has superb rear‑rejection of over 15dB across the stated frequency response of 20Hz to 20kHz. This characteristic makes the KMS105 ideal for stage use, providing good resistance to feedback from stage monitors."
@@pjmuck awesome thank you! Would you say the kms 104 is better than the 105 for stage use because it’s cardiod pattern?
@@pjmuck …. Considering i use wedges
@@rudygomez6996 I have never used a KMS104 so I can't compare. I would suggest you check out Anton Brown's demo comparison video, "The Neumann Sisters" for a full review of all 3 Neumann live mics (KMS104, KMS 104 Plus, and KMS105). Anton is very entertaining and informative, and he treats every mic review as if he's tasting a fine wine.
Great video, but not sure why the KSM105 condenser mic made it to the "Dynamic" studio microphone shootout. It's a different beast than the others. Thanks for the video. I also love the 945 for my live gigs along with the 935 when I don't need a tight pattern.
Absolutely no reason the 105 should be in the mix. Getting info from a guy that isn't paying attention to detail. GOTTA LOVE THAT! lol
Did you try e945 for studio recordings?
The exact thing I have been searching for was e945 vs ksm105…. In trying to decide what live mic is best. So this video was very helpful.
@@stevensedaliamusic Not to be too snarky but like...wow, the 700-750 dollar condenser microphone outperforms the 200 dollar dynamic microphone. Who would have ever guessed??
@@saitodosan9377 are you okay?
I am more Confused than I was before I saw this Video and there is a Lot to be Said about Phantom Power...
However, I like the higher priced Dynamic Studio Mic's, as they Seem to be just a litter better on the mid-range and the high end...
The Newmann and Senneiser... Still, all the mic's today are just Awesome... Awesome Job and Thank You...
The 105 is the only mic that needs phantom power. Tbf, it probably shouldn’t be in this comparison. The best dynamic mics are still the SM7b, and the earthworks Icon. 👌
Good Job Thank You
Thanks 🙂
The Neumann was the winner for your voice. Shure SM7b close second.
Love you to compare these to the universal audio SD1.
Watch this space. A video on the SD-1/SM7b/Dynacaster is ready to go, I just don’t have time to publish it because I’m gigging all weekend.
Thanks Ed. I Like the Neumann KM105, but, I have all the condenser mics I need. From what I've heard, home studio Podcasters and singers use dynamic because of "their tonsils", but also because their ability to reject room and street noises. My AA 818, Sennheiser MKH 416, and Rode K2 have cardiod or super-cardiod settings but even with heavy sound baffling, you can hear EVERYTHING in the room, and the weed whacker 3 houses down! I don't like the dullness of the SM7b, but, if that's the only pro choice to getting a track without occasionally having to beg the talent back in for a retake, I would do it. Any more ideas from you or those in this thread?
How respond the Neumann 105 with the noise around? Great video!
I want to do voice over. I want to record my poetry professionally. In which I get high quality. But in my poetry some lines will go in high tone and some lines will go in emotional low tone. Suggest me a good mic, headphone and audio interface.
Volt 176 interface. SM7b mic. Sennheiser HD300 Pro headphones.
Thanks for your video. Is it possible to do live video call via zoom/google meet using e945 microphone connected to a laptop using preamp?
Loving that e945!!!!
I still use them live every week
@@EdThorne a lot of people seem to be saying the e935 is the best over the e945 . It's driving me nuts trying to decide which to go with - they are the same price. what is your opinion ? thank you so much in advance!
@@coffeehigh420 The 8/935s have more of an SM58 character, slightly duller. The 8/945s have a lot more top end. Live, I usually end up EQ'ing this out but it's nice to have the option. Best bet is to go to a music store and try them out for yourself.
@@EdThorne I think you're right. Thanks man
Honest comparison.
It's clearly between SM7B and KMS105 here... KMS105 has more detail, but SM7B gives some midrange edge to your very smooth voice you'd probably have more difficulties to add in post - this might help you to stay upfront in the mix. So I'd go with the SM7B in this case. For studio use (in a somehow treated room) you might likewise increase the distance to the KMS105, which will take away part of it's softness in the mids, and add some character VCA compression to compensate for the lost proximity effect (KMS105 is basically a KM185 with a sort of built-in proximity compensation and a very nice three-layer mesh grille, so if you increase distance you might need to reverse compensate for the built in proximity compensation) in post.
A very detailed analysis, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I always end up using the SM7b when I’m not using my JZ v67 which is a condenser mic in a whole other leaguer to these mics (ruclips.net/video/UzyfAZYI-Xw/видео.html).
Your voice listened on a pair of Sony MDR7506 studio headphones sounds best on the Neumann K105, second SM58, third SM7b, fourth (because of the annoying hights in combination with missing midrange) Sennheiser E945 (and I am a 'Sennie', I prefer the E835 way over the SM58 for vocals and the E609 way over the SM57 for guitar, but not all Sennheiser mics make a good natural balance)
ive had the pleasure of using the sennheiser 945 live for a number of years. Especially at its price range, the clarity of it and the way it cuts through the mix is unrivaled. The only mic I've ever considered upgrading to would be the KMS 105 being that it can be a hybrid between a live mic and studio mic. Does anyone have experience using the KMS 105 in a live setting? If so, how does it feel/compare?
I’ve used the 105 live and it sounds great - but - as a drummer, it captures too much of the cymbals (problem enough with dynamic mics on small-medium stages).
@@EdThorne right, being a lead vocalist not behind a drum kit, thankfully that kind of bleed isn’t something I need to worry about 😁
@@3rundisciple It is depending on stage size and drummer/stage volume. Check out the new SE V7 mics. They sound wicked and have fantastic feedback/noise rejection 👌
@@EdThorne would the SE V7 be good for rap vocals and podcasts
@@iloveeverything4380 A microphone does not discriminate against genres.
I ned a mic for flute , hamonica and singing. NOTHING fancy . I'm in between Shure beta a 58 and Sennheiser e945. Had a Shure sm 58 before ( got stolen) , it worked fine but would like to try something a little better .Thanks in advance for any answer.
You could try an SM57, or maybe a condenser mic like an Aston Origin?
Taking foam off the sm7b makes a big difference, I would never record with it on unless I had to for some reason
Yeh it really does. I use the thick shield for voice overs to minimise plosives and the thinner one for vocals. Though these both deaden the too end slightly, compression usually brings this back up in the mix.
No big difference, a slight difference, and you putting your microphone to a risk of collecting loads of dust on the capsule, which is not good.
There is no contest...KSM 105 easily the best. Crisp clear top end and tight low end in my own system, the only one close enough is the shure beta 87.
I dont know much about sound engineering, but with a typical SM58 you should cut some mid-low frequency to get the vocal stand out. No need for the 87a and the Neumann 105.
Who is better for metal voices (growls and clean both)
Neuman KMS 105 and Sennheiser E945!
Trying to work out whether I want the Shure SM7b or a Neuman TML 102. With the Shure it seems like you need a cloud lifter for the gain which pulls the price up to around the TML 102 price point.. Which would you go for ? Thanks for the video!
Jamie Yost Hi Jamie. I use my SM7b all the time with my Apollo which has plenty of gain so I don’t need a cloudlifter. When I’ve used my Scarlett I have needed all the gain, so it may depend what interface you have. The TLM102 is a nice condenser so it’s possible more versatile for you.
@@EdThorne Thanks for the quick reply! I've been watching videos on this all day aha. So torn. I'm looking for a new interface as well. So the pairing you'd suggest I'm guessing is the apollo and the Shure? I've been looking at the SSL 2+ for the lower price point. Hearing lots of good things about those! All the best.
Sm58 all day long 👍🏼
In Germany KMS105 cost around 500€. SM7b + cloudlifter cost around the same. For voiceover and podcast what do you recommend?
Sm7b for ‘Shure’. I’d stay away from a condenser for voice overs.
@@EdThorne Condensers are better in a treated environment with a low self noise. Rode NT1 has low self noise and sounds great. Most VO people use condensers.
Sir, I want to do voice over. But I am very confused. Is Dynamic mic for recording or for live cast? Can I do recording with this mic? And can I mix it later? Will this mic be good for voice over?
For voice overs I’d always suggest the SM7b. Even if your room is acoustically treated.
This test lacks one important thing: how do the Mics behave musically in a mix.
Please save me, as I'm lack of confidence, I'm about to buy of of this two mics: Neuman kms 105 and Sennheiser e945, my headphones is Sennheiser hd 599 and Sennheiser 600, all this I was planning to plug into audient id14. Could you give me advise? I need crystal clear mic sound, I don't like sound like I'm on radio, I need something for female vocal
The KMS105 is the better mic here. For female vocals I’d avoid the e945, they’re very bright. Radio sounding vocals come down to a few things, compression/limiting being the main processor on vocals. Mic wise, try the SE Dynacaster too.
on the kms105 we really hear your voice.
18 Cats Sat It’s a very detailed mic. 🙏 Sorry you had to hear that anyway 😜
Your vocals sounded exactly the same 😂. But I appreciate your video.
A very helpful comparison.
Considering that you made it about 2 years ago, have you had an opportunity to test/compare also the e965, kms104, kms104+ since you shot this comparison?
I sold my KMS. I’ve used the 965s live a few time, they’re very good mics! For studio use though I use the SM7b all the way!
Good comparo. The e945 sounds better to me, but they all have strengths.
I am just planning to record songs at home, its not a home studio, I would be recording mostly early in the morning, when it’s usually quieter, so, please let me know if I should get a condenser microphone or dynamic microphone?
Hi Richard, it really depends on your room acoustics. If you have a good sounding, dry room (minimal reflections/reverb) a condenser mic is good value because it’s very multi-purpose. If your room sounds terrible I’d suggest a dynamic mic. The new SE Dynacaster is brilliant!
@@EdThorne that’s such an helpful advice, Ed. The background noise is usually a rare noise from outside, someone walking or a dog barking at a distance, some sound that’s not very loud but when I record on my iPhone 11 it does capture such noises faintly, that’s all I am trying to avoid.
@@Richy1anita A condenser mic will definitely pick up more of that than a dynamic mic, but some people like the charm of background noise like that 🙂
@@EdThorne oh ok, but will a dynamic mix not pic up such background noise?
@@Richy1anita It will of course pick up some if you use a lot of gain, but they’re design for maximum external noise rejection by using a tight polar pattern.
i think that the sm7b is pretty "nosey" (nasal?) compared to the previous tho...
Rayhayes Rd-1 most people don't know it my favourite for singing, i have shure sm 58 and sennheiser e835 they just can't match the Rayhayes Rd-1 sound for singing and live performances no feedback compared to shure and sennheiser.
Just got the e945. Mine doesn't say made in Germany 😮
Be careful, tons of fakes!
I'm more confused about why a condenser microphone made it into your "dynamic" mic shootout!
Best Shure, Neumann
Sennheiser e945 is brighter
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Haha. Cheers, man!
Volumes aren't matched...
945 . VOCAL SMB PODCAST.
The e835 is more comparable to the SM58. You’d do better to compare the Beta 58A to the E945. Hence Super.
I thought the
SHURE SM7b I think in 2022 is just a looks thing... there are MUCH better mics out there. this mic is OLD. Mics have evolved majorly over the years! as far as the podcasting explosion all over the place (especially on youtube) goes, my personal opinion is that everyone is going for that "Joe Rogan Experience" look. You can thank him and Shure frankly owes him a ton of cash for all the extra money coming in for orders thanks to people trying to copy his look for podcasting for video. If you want MASSIVE bang for your buck, SENNHEISER e945 and you won't look back! Put a pop filter on that bad boy and you'll get rid of the little extra sibilance / plosives, and still maintain a nice, powerful vocal sound. - You're welcome ;)
It’s old - but gold for a reason: ruclips.net/video/KIixnyK_C0c/видео.html
7B is best.
beyerdynamic tg 70 the best!
e 935... trust me...
Condenser does not mean it has to be omni directional wth are you talking about?
True, but it is more omni-directional than a dynamic mic, which is what I'm referring to in the video.
@@EdThorne excellent point I agree. Sorry for coming off so aggressive 🥴
@@MrAdrianloera I agree I could have phrased that part better.
KMS105 in the studio and E945 on the stage, job done. Rode M2 lower price substitute for the KMS105. Don't like SM7B on anything, horrible mids.
Sennheiser e945 sounds the best. How can Shure SM7B be considered the best? It sounds shitty compared to e945.
It's all personal preference. Live, I use 945 capsules on my radio mics and they sound great. In the studio, the SM7b is the one (when I'm not using a JZ Mic).
@@EdThorne Did you compare Shure SM7B and 945 for studio recordings? Did you notice that SM7B is somewhat woofy in the 170-280hz, especially sometimes when you sing notes in the C3-C4 range. I think that is not only the room's problem, but the microphone also just has not clear low mids response. In addition to that, the transients and emotions of this mic sound somewhat restrained, like it registers the transients as if they sound with some delay. Why do you prefer it more for the studio than other microphones, including 945? In which department it is better? And do you know any microphone that sounds mix ready out of the box with clear high end, without the need of removing the nasty 280 hz bump like in SM7B? Dynamic or handheld condenser...
@@EdThorne Even in your sample, on laptop speakers, I can hear that shitty 173 hz resonance in your SM7B recording. You can't use that raw sound in a song without alterations.
@@sevchyk that's why you use a daw and mix your vocals. Even live most people perform with compression and eq, reberb etc..
@@JustMamba There are microphones that sound great and don’t require that much eq as SM7B, I’m pretty sure of it. I think, Rode Classic II or u87 are ones of them, but I didn’t try it. At least those that don’t sound that muddy in the high frequencies. How can this mic be considered the best if every single person on forums or youtube has to make three eq moves to make it sound at least decent? Definitely, that means that the microphone is not that great. It’s average at best. To me, the microphone must sound good out of the box. SM7B doesn’t sound like that, it requires tweaks always, no matter what. The microphone should sound good as it is from the start. That’s my point. I need something that already sounds clear and not dull in the high frequencies and doesn’t have that woo woo effect in C3-C4 range as SM7B. It has too much bass response, who needs that much bass response in voice recordings? Even very thin voices don’t need it.
Neumann KMS 105 is on another level compared to the rest.
It is more expensive to be fair. Not the fairest test on my part in hind sight but they were all the mics I had at the time 🤣
This test lacks one important thing: how do the Mics behave musically in a mix.