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The 8TB drive M3 Max 16 cpu core /40 core gpu 128GB RAM is quite a bit faster on disk read and write speeds - ~5,500 MB/s Read, and About 8,300 MB/s Write
Nice comparison! Could you do a M2 Mac Studio Max(base) to a M3 MacBook Pro 14" or 16" comparison too? Because they are at similar price range $1800 - $2000 and I am sure a lot people would be wondering if to go with M2 Studio Max or M3 MacBook Pro for the performance/dollar(since it would be a while for the M3 Mac Studio to come out).
Without a doubt, your channels have been the best at informing consumers about these new M3 Macs. It seemed like a lot of review channels dropped the ball with these new machines and your channels were the only ones to really give them solid coverage.
The Disk Speeds Read/Write are actually identical across the M3 Pro vs M3 Max when configured with 1TB. Only reason you're seeing different speeds is because you're comparing 1TB vs 512GB. I have both an M3 Pro and M3 Max. This could affect the rest of your testing as well that involves disk read/write speeds, like exporting tests. Since Disk speeds are higher on 1TB models, other benchmarks could be different as well.
Thanks for the clarification.Also i want to understand if i go from 1TB to 2 or 4,will how much speed gain will i get ? Is it worth,also considering the TBW can 1TB last for at least 3 years ?
With the 1TB config are the same all the way through to the 8TB config. In the 1TB config you're getting 4x 256GB chips, and having the 4 chips is what increases the speed, at 2TB, you get 4x 512GB chips, at 4 TB, you get 4x 1TB chips, etc... At 512GB, you're only getting 2x 256GB chips. So that's why the speed is slower. So the speeds will be the same from 1TB-8TB.
@@ColorOfTheDay I love seeing this because the configuration I ordered is the M3 Pro MacBook Pro. It’s 12cpu/18gpu, 36gb ram/1TB SSD. It’s the 14inch which is nowhere to be seen in all of the Max Tech videos to date since the release of the new MacBooks.
Thanks for including a test for music production! I’d never approach that number of tracks, but I still find the information valuable. The cooling aspect is significant to me too.
I too use Logic, and as you stated the absurd track count that Logic claims to support is something that no-one should ever have to exceed. Even if one is also including tracks for dialogue and SFX to actually mix a film with every single music track included in the same session ( which is not how the Pros do it) I can’t imagine why someone would need to support 1000 tracks (Apple was advertising this “feature” years ago for Logic - way too many to control or even view with multiple monitors) :)
Max didn’t disclose the only important detail. The only thing that really makes the difference is the max-ed out RAM, chip doesn’t make significant difference. For music, just get the maximum RAM you can afford. The big ssd will be useful too. Be smart!
Hey Max & Vadim. Id like to see a video which is more reallife for the topic of videoediting. We see a lot of benchmarks about export times but tbh i dont really care if id takes 5min or 20min. Id rather be interested about the flow of the edit. When scrubbing through the timeline, is it smooth, instant? I hate an interruption of my editingflow. When the click is delayed or the replay is studdering. Maybe one of your editors could make a video about that. How they feel while editing with a reallife project in 4k. Many thanks for the effort
Amazing . . . how you packed all this information into a 10 minute video. Love all the comparison charts. Very helpful. Yes, I (we) will refer to this video frequently as we decide what to buy. Thank you.
CLICK BAIT IS CORRECT My needs and workload require a great screen and storage space over RAM. I understand I might be in the minority but these different models exist for CHOICE. Heck you guys even did a video on the base 8 256 iMac saying everyone else is wrong about it and it can last for 10 years. You are starting to act snobby in your videos (I like your content but stop sounding elite). I was able to get a brand new SEALED base MacBook Pro m3 for $300 off. I was eyeing the MacBook Air for my needs. But was able to snag this for the same price. YES 8GB can be limiting in certain circumstances but in this video you went out of your way to overload the 8GB model with 20 tabs and Lightroom. I don’t believe in spending excess money on specs I don’t currently need. Yes 16gb probably is a good idea for MANY PEOPLE but not every professional needs it. AGAIN these specs offer choice for every persons specific requirements To Max Tech stop sounding so snobby. I do more than email and watch videos. Not every PRO require tons of RAM but makes my profession no less PRO THAN YOURS
@@AnonN-sr6uu I think they have skill but driving people to specific links for affiliate money, and then changing your views on every other video is disingenuous
@@josephbartol7302 I agree, but I was just curious. Since it is okay to change your mind on certain products the more time you have it in hand but it would be nice if they would say the reason why. Since almost every video have different recommendations it is disingenuous.
@@AlfaMedtech totally agree. I do think they are probably looking at things mostly as content creators but they have lost sight of the fact there are many different types of professionals
How time flies, I remember how a year ago I bought my M1 Pro from one of the top eBay sellers with delivery to warring Ukraine, which became the most expensive purchase of my life and the biggest disappointment. Because it turned out to be an MDM laptop, which I now use as a paperweight for $2k. Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know which one is full of sh*t.
I went for the 14' m3 max for 2999 on amazon - thermals and noise is not an issue for me I need powerful small laptop. I need 36gb and 1tb for my workflow so upgrading to m3 max was not a big step I will get it tomorrow hope it will serve well for next 5 years.
Completely agree, I came from a M1 Mac Mini w/256gb drive to a 14" MB Pro with the 12 core pro chip w/1tb drive, the difference between those 2 are staggering
@@jank8456 After giving a lot of thought I bought M3 Pro, as I simply couldn't buy the 8 GB M3. With M3Pro, I am getting anywhere from 12-14 hours and i am happy with it.
*You should do a 20-30 minutes h264 and HEVC video export test with 10.7 final cut. 5 minutes is too short and will not maximise the use of the multiple encoders.* *You should also be using speedometer 2.1 because it's more accurate.*
Would be interested to see your thoughts on the binned M3 Max chip in the 14" size. I would trade the 10 cores for if it doesn't throttle/get as hot as the 40 core M3 Max does in the 14" body. I greatly prefer the 14" size, but also want a Max chip. Haven't really seen anyone talking about that configuration.
14" non-binned M3 Max (48 GB) would be interesting! What about the fans and fan noise at heavy load? Compared to binned (36 GB). I'm afraid of even more fan noise or at least similar. I belive that if you don't like fan noise you should avoid 14" M3 Max and go for 14" M3 Pro 11c or 12c, maybe 11c. Less cores = less heat = less fan noise. So maybe that's why M3 Pro got 5/6 P cores and 6 E cores. And "so few GPU cores". I'm curious how M3 Max is on Low Power Mode: what about fan noise?
@@cjeelde from what I've seen fan noise is quiet in low power mode, multi-core is better than M3 Pro but single core is worse than M3 Pro. With my workflow it'd be nice to have the extra power of the Max when needed and it seems like a much better value than the handicapped Pro this gen. But still looking for more tests that include the binned Max to confirm.
@@bladerealm124 I can only say that probably is M3 Max best suited for Mac Studio if you want the combo of performance and "no" fan noise. MBP16 comes in 2nd place, MBP14 comes last. So what's best for a MBP14 (performance and low fan noise)? M3 Max Low Power Mode M3 Pro Normal Power Mode You want M3 Max for the performance/speed! You don't want the combo speed and much fan noise... I think M3 Max for MBP is kind of a failure. This was the big thing about Apple Silicon? That you will get the combo High Performance + Low Power = long battery life & "no" fan noise? If I should put Apple's M chips - for MacBook Pro - in a Tier Ranking I would not put M3 Max in the S or A tier. Maybe it's better to wait for M4 Max?
This is great! You guys have the best real-world reviews of Mac’s. And to think you all live in the Spokane area. Ex-Coeur d’Alene resident now in Bellingham Wa
Ironic, that this is the same recommendation I would have given when these first machines started to ship. Get the base Max. Or the spec’d out Max if you really need that power. The Max-based machines are the only really impressive jump in the M3 lineup.
Very good comparison, besides Xcode testing, for developers, you may also want to add some tensorflow benchmarking for data science developers for Machine Learning development. Possibly some docker containerization, running kubernetes can be part of the batch.
Thanks so much for the review, finally got to see a comparison between M3Pro unbinned VS binned chips! I’m considering getting either the M3Pro MacBook Pro with 11CPU/14GPU cores or the 12CPU/18GPU cores to replace my 2015 base MacBook Pro. Just wondering, since I connect my MacBook to 2 external monitors, do you think the M3Pro unbinned chip will make a difference when it comes to performance when connected to 2 external monitors compared to the binned counterpart, especially when GPU is involved with projecting more things via 2 screens rather than 1?
Could I also ask you guys for a favor very relevant to me right now? I ordered a top-spec M3 Max 16”, to replace my similar M2 Max machine, but my order was cancelled and it is now on backorder. I decided to just get it from my local Best Buy but they only sell the binned M3 Max in the 16” size. With more RAM and 2 more CPU cores, but less memory bandwidth and 8 less GPU cores, I’m not sure whether that would be an overall upgrade or downgrade. Could you make a video comparing the top M2 Max to the base M3 Max, especially in things like video editing (including denoising blackmagic raw!) and gaming benchmarks like 3D Mark and GFX Bench? This would be an absolute lifesaver and I couldn’t thank you enough for doing it if you have a chance. Thanks guys!
Very helpful video. It would be more helpful if there were comparisons between the Pro and the Max with the same size of RAM. Then we could see the difference the number of cores and the actual chip makes, and if the price difference for these is worth it.
Apple was smart to make the M3 Max chips a stand-out chip over the M3 Pro in such a drastic way. However, they played themselves when they made the past M1/M2 Pro chips so fast that the Max chips didn't really seem as worth is.
definitely enjoy the comparisons, based on my use case , I think m3 Max 14 inch base model , probably best upgrade for me coming from a m1 air 13 inch with 8 gb of ram that just doesn't cut it when doing any heavy work loads. The slightly bigger screen plus all the necessary power and active cooling should handle anything I might come across,. plus I should add the Apple Store does give out discounts to students and veterans as well in case anyone wants to save any more money if you fall into those categories.
I got the M3 Max base model on sale at BestBuy for $2700. The M3 Pro top binned model is $2200. Factor in 1TB SSD and 36GB RAM and I’m spending 600 already - that’s the same price as the base m3 max on sale. Even without the sale, you come very close to the price of the max. It’s classic apple. You add ridiculous money to up the Ram or storage and find yourself paying close to the upgraded whole new tiered model. Like 256GB on an iPad brings you very close to the price of an iPad Pro
Awesome comparison! Can you do it with Diffusion Bee or any other Stable Diffusion? I would love checking the performance of AI images generation with the M3 Max GPU. I have a M1 MBP, I am wiling to purchase a better machine to generate more images faster. It is hard to find benchmarks of this kind.
I bought M3 pro MacBook Pro 16 inch. Overall not bad at all, but 512 gb in 2024 not worth it at all. It should be at least 1 TB for a base model other than that I'm fine with it.
Hey guys thanks for the awesome comparison! Truly amazes me the amount of content you churn out and then manage to pack into a comprehensive short video basically every day! Now I’d really like to see the M3 Max destroying… er, pitted against… a beastly PC laptop, like MSI Titan or Razer Blade 16. Do you think you could do it? Thanks!
Thanks for this. I'll be rendering video and making music in Logic. My budget won't allow me to get the top of the line max, but this video has made me want to save in other areas to get the 2nd best Max to enhance Logic's capabilities and half the render times.
You should compare the M3 Pro chips with two 14” or 16” models. Not the other being a different size. Since the 16” model has better cooling thus can let the chip throttle more here and there. This would be fine if both chips were 12 cores, but only the 16” had that.
The biggest cool factor of the base model is the battery life which is why the 16gb version of the base model still has something over the m3 pro for users that are getting this for the quality screen for media consumption combined with light music production and other basic tasks
the only issue for me about the base M3 MBP model is that it only has 2 TB3 ports (M3 Pro MBP has 3 TB4). Otherwise, the base M3 MBP spec'd out to 16/512 for S200 less than the base M3 Pro MBP isn't a bad deal for people who don't care about TB4 or the 2 extra GB RAM.
Hi guys, I need an advice. For the same price what do you recommend? A new MacBook Pro M3 Pro 18GB and 1TB or a refurbished Apple MacBook Pro M2 Max 32GB and 1TB?
Sorry but if you REALLY wanted to be helpful, you should have given about 4 tiers of sweet spots for buying. All you did was say: don't buy the base one, buy the 11 core m3 pro one OR the 16 core max one. Which means that you only really helped those who had a 1800 USD or so budget or a 4000 USD one... but what happen to those who have a , say 3000 USD budget???? Which is the sweet spot there???? For example, I am debating on getting either a 16" M3 pro (12 core) with 1tb hd and 36gb ram VS a 16" max ( 14 core) with 1tb hd and 36gb ram. Where I live theres a price difference of about 500 or so USD between these two, and I am having q really hard tome decidiing if that extra is worth it. Any help? Input? Advice? Suggesttion???? It doesn't help to give a binary choice such as : spend 1800 usd or 4000 usd
Loving my 18gb 14"! I'd spent the past 6 months with a 512/8gb m2 air but the ram just wasn't cutting it. Was excellent otherwise though.. However when I found the m3 for $1600 after xmas, it was impossible to turn down. Thank Santa for unwanted gifts!
Is there a difference among these processors which goes beyond the number of cores and I suppose the memory bandwidtth? Is the Max a Pro with more cores and RAM and better bandwidth or are there also other improvements, eg more cache in chip etc?
Thanks for this massive piece of work MaxTech. I really appreciate of all the digging here. Space Black or Silver 16-inch MacBook Pro M3 Max 16-core CPU 40-core GPU with 48 or 64 GB and 1 TB SSD for the win
Here’s my dilemma… M3, 24gb, 2TB $2599 M3 Pro, 36gb, 2TB $2999 Will I see a major improvement for spending the extra $400? I have an M2 Ultra Mac studio which is my primary editing machine. I do edit on the road occasionally (I use premiere) so having something capable is a bonus (I’ve done basic stuff on a 13” MacBook Pro M1 and it seemed to perform OK). I also never plug my laptop into a monitor since I already have a desktop machine. The laptop will solely exist to go on the road with me when I have shoots out of town/state so I can dump footage and do some basic editing tasks. I typically shoot 4K but edit in 1080p. Someone help, I ordered both so I need to decide which to keep lol
My only question is RAM. I have the 40 Core M3 Max with 48RAM and 4K editing with 6K BRAW in Davinci shows barely any memory swapping and seem to fly long nicely. I would be curious what 128GB ram would do in the same scenario. I even got the 1TB machine instead of more onboard storage because I found that the performance was exactly the same using internal storage versus really fast external SSDs. Davinci can only do so much and usually doesn't need the insane data transfer rates of internal SSD.
how fast are your external ssds? By performance you mean you didn't notice any difference in timeline smoothness or export times even off of external ssds?
I have been thinking refurbished M2 Max or M1 Max how will they compare? The refurbished ones I am looking at have more ram and ssd than the equivalent M3 for the same cost. I use my Mac’s for photos and Final Cut
It seems like the performance between the pro cpu's is about 10/15 percent you're better off in my eyes increasing the amount of ram and at that point differences may be a bit less.
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The 8TB drive M3 Max 16 cpu core /40 core gpu 128GB RAM is quite a bit faster on disk read and write speeds - ~5,500 MB/s Read, and About 8,300 MB/s Write
Can you do the same test just on low power mode?
Nice comparison! Could you do a M2 Mac Studio Max(base) to a M3 MacBook Pro 14" or 16" comparison too? Because they are at similar price range $1800 - $2000 and I am sure a lot people would be wondering if to go with M2 Studio Max or M3 MacBook Pro for the performance/dollar(since it would be a while for the M3 Mac Studio to come out).
@@leezheng8161 yeah bro
Wow! The rare 10 minute YT video that actually contains 10 minutes of real content. Great job!
man, why nobody is testing battery life...
Thanks for listening to our requests and making this!
Without a doubt, your channels have been the best at informing consumers about these new M3 Macs. It seemed like a lot of review channels dropped the ball with these new machines and your channels were the only ones to really give them solid coverage.
True that
The Disk Speeds Read/Write are actually identical across the M3 Pro vs M3 Max when configured with 1TB. Only reason you're seeing different speeds is because you're comparing 1TB vs 512GB. I have both an M3 Pro and M3 Max.
This could affect the rest of your testing as well that involves disk read/write speeds, like exporting tests. Since Disk speeds are higher on 1TB models, other benchmarks could be different as well.
Thanks for the clarification.Also i want to understand if i go from 1TB to 2 or 4,will how much speed gain will i get ? Is it worth,also considering the TBW can 1TB last for at least 3 years ?
With the 1TB config are the same all the way through to the 8TB config. In the 1TB config you're getting 4x 256GB chips, and having the 4 chips is what increases the speed, at 2TB, you get 4x 512GB chips, at 4 TB, you get 4x 1TB chips, etc...
At 512GB, you're only getting 2x 256GB chips. So that's why the speed is slower.
So the speeds will be the same from 1TB-8TB.
@@ColorOfTheDay I love seeing this because the configuration I ordered is the M3 Pro MacBook Pro. It’s 12cpu/18gpu, 36gb ram/1TB SSD. It’s the 14inch which is nowhere to be seen in all of the Max Tech videos to date since the release of the new MacBooks.
@@sammyjammy6647 It keeps deleting my post, but if you look at /r/macbookpro there's performance specs on that config.
@@ColorOfTheDay Again thanks a lot for clear explanation
Thanks for including a test for music production! I’d never approach that number of tracks, but I still find the information valuable. The cooling aspect is significant to me too.
I too use Logic, and as you stated the absurd track count that Logic claims to support is something that no-one should ever have to exceed. Even if one is also including tracks for dialogue and SFX to actually mix a film with every single music track included in the same session ( which is not how the Pros do it) I can’t imagine why someone would need to support 1000 tracks (Apple was advertising this “feature” years ago for Logic - way too many to control or even view with multiple monitors) :)
Max didn’t disclose the only important detail. The only thing that really makes the difference is the max-ed out RAM, chip doesn’t make significant difference. For music, just get the maximum RAM you can afford. The big ssd will be useful too. Be smart!
Hey Max & Vadim. Id like to see a video which is more reallife for the topic of videoediting. We see a lot of benchmarks about export times but tbh i dont really care if id takes 5min or 20min. Id rather be interested about the flow of the edit. When scrubbing through the timeline, is it smooth, instant? I hate an interruption of my editingflow. When the click is delayed or the replay is studdering. Maybe one of your editors could make a video about that. How they feel while editing with a reallife project in 4k. Many thanks for the effort
exactly.. can someone please answer thisss?
Amazing . . . how you packed all this information into a 10 minute video. Love all the comparison charts. Very helpful. Yes, I (we) will refer to this video frequently as we decide what to buy. Thank you.
I had been second guessing my choice of the 16" binned M3 Max. I am comfortable with it again now thanks to all your quantitative comparisons.
When comparing the base max vs the upgraded max chip you said “it was not worth the upgrade” now you are recommending it. What changed ?😅
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CLICK BAIT IS CORRECT My needs and workload require a great screen and storage space over RAM. I understand I might be in the minority but these different models exist for CHOICE. Heck you guys even did a video on the base 8 256 iMac saying everyone else is wrong about it and it can last for 10 years. You are starting to act snobby in your videos (I like your content but stop sounding elite). I was able to get a brand new SEALED base MacBook Pro m3 for $300 off. I was eyeing the MacBook Air for my needs. But was able to snag this for the same price.
YES 8GB can be limiting in certain circumstances but in this video you went out of your way to overload the 8GB model with 20 tabs and Lightroom. I don’t believe in spending excess money on specs I don’t currently need. Yes 16gb probably is a good idea for MANY PEOPLE but not every professional needs it. AGAIN these specs offer choice for every persons specific requirements
To Max Tech stop sounding so snobby. I do more than email and watch videos. Not every PRO require tons of RAM but makes my profession no less PRO THAN YOURS
@@AnonN-sr6uu I think they have skill but driving people to specific links for affiliate money, and then changing your views on every other video is disingenuous
@@josephbartol7302 I agree, but I was just curious. Since it is okay to change your mind on certain products the more time you have it in hand but it would be nice if they would say the reason why. Since almost every video have different recommendations it is disingenuous.
@@AlfaMedtech totally agree. I do think they are probably looking at things mostly as content creators but they have lost sight of the fact there are many different types of professionals
Guys! Where's the 14" Max (binned vs upgraded) comparisons?
Would love to also see some gaming comparisons for these 14" configs.
No temps graphs comparison ?! How did the binned 14 m3 max performed in temps vs the 14 m3 pros? Fan speed? Noise?
How time flies, I remember how a year ago I bought my M1 Pro from one of the top eBay sellers with delivery to warring Ukraine, which became the most expensive purchase of my life and the biggest disappointment. Because it turned out to be an MDM laptop, which I now use as a paperweight for $2k. Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know which one is full of sh*t.
I went for the 14' m3 max for 2999 on amazon - thermals and noise is not an issue for me I need powerful small laptop. I need 36gb and 1tb for my workflow so upgrading to m3 max was not a big step I will get it tomorrow hope it will serve well for next 5 years.
Completely agree, I came from a M1 Mac Mini w/256gb drive to a 14" MB Pro with the 12 core pro chip w/1tb drive, the difference between those 2 are staggering
Hey thanks for the test ! Battery is so important when we talk about laptop. Would be great to add a battery test and comparison.
no battery life tests?? :(((((((
Working in the M3 Max 48GB 16/40 model. It’s insane for my design en photo-editing workflow!🔥
The video I’ve been looking for. Thank you
What's the battery drain test? Which one is better in terms of battery M3 or M3 pro
M3 much better than M3 pro, which isn't so good
@@jank8456 After giving a lot of thought I bought M3 Pro, as I simply couldn't buy the 8 GB M3. With M3Pro, I am getting anywhere from 12-14 hours and i am happy with it.
You just saved tons of budget for us. Thanks for your incessant job.
*You should do a 20-30 minutes h264 and HEVC video export test with 10.7 final cut. 5 minutes is too short and will not maximise the use of the multiple encoders.*
*You should also be using speedometer 2.1 because it's more accurate.*
This is the best and most useful video I have seen about the new macbooks. I just bought the m3 pro at $1800!
Thank you!
Concise, clear, comprehensive. Thanks!!!
Woulda been nice if you uploaded this clip before the end of black friday and cyber monday but oh well... still appreciated!
Great work absolutely killed this video
Would be interested to see your thoughts on the binned M3 Max chip in the 14" size. I would trade the 10 cores for if it doesn't throttle/get as hot as the 40 core M3 Max does in the 14" body. I greatly prefer the 14" size, but also want a Max chip. Haven't really seen anyone talking about that configuration.
Fantastic video!!!! Fantastic work!!! Thanks for sharing..... 🙏🙏🙏
We need a 14 inch binned vs non binned M3 Max tests.
How has nobody done this yet?!? Every time I see a new video and think "they must have finally tested the 14" binned M3 Max vs 14" unbinned M3 Max."
14" non-binned M3 Max (48 GB) would be interesting! What about the fans and fan noise at heavy load? Compared to binned (36 GB). I'm afraid of even more fan noise or at least similar.
I belive that if you don't like fan noise you should avoid 14" M3 Max and go for 14" M3 Pro 11c or 12c, maybe 11c. Less cores = less heat = less fan noise.
So maybe that's why M3 Pro got 5/6 P cores and 6 E cores. And "so few GPU cores".
I'm curious how M3 Max is on Low Power Mode: what about fan noise?
@@cjeelde from what I've seen fan noise is quiet in low power mode, multi-core is better than M3 Pro but single core is worse than M3 Pro. With my workflow it'd be nice to have the extra power of the Max when needed and it seems like a much better value than the handicapped Pro this gen. But still looking for more tests that include the binned Max to confirm.
@@bladerealm124 I can only say that probably is M3 Max best suited for Mac Studio if you want the combo of performance and "no" fan noise. MBP16 comes in 2nd place, MBP14 comes last.
So what's best for a MBP14 (performance and low fan noise)?
M3 Max Low Power Mode
M3 Pro Normal Power Mode
You want M3 Max for the performance/speed! You don't want the combo speed and much fan noise...
I think M3 Max for MBP is kind of a failure. This was the big thing about Apple Silicon? That you will get the combo High Performance + Low Power = long battery life & "no" fan noise?
If I should put Apple's M chips - for MacBook Pro - in a Tier Ranking I would not put M3 Max in the S or A tier.
Maybe it's better to wait for M4 Max?
oh my god you spent a lot of money on those Mac just for these video I really appreciated your effort and you earned a new subscriber
Thanks for your hard work!
Great video. Thank you
By far best review video on the M3 MBs! Efficient cut, no bla bla, concentrated facts, comprehensive tests. 👍
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Eying the 14" M3 Max 48GB/2TB. Thank you for the testing - it'll be great to throw what I need to at it for years to come.
Me too but I wanna go 128 gb
@@psyswordthat would be nutty haha like in a good way
Thanks a TON Max & Vadim
So much valuable information here, thank you.
Thanks for your Video! It was very helpful 👌
Finally the video I was looking for. Thanks so much for all the charts.
battery life comparison would be helpful
So much info in this video I had to watch it at 0.75x.
Great summary guys!
This is the video we needed ❤
This is great! You guys have the best real-world reviews of Mac’s. And to think you all live in the Spokane area. Ex-Coeur d’Alene resident now in Bellingham Wa
Ironic, that this is the same recommendation I would have given when these first machines started to ship. Get the base Max. Or the spec’d out Max if you really need that power. The Max-based machines are the only really impressive jump in the M3 lineup.
Thank you for the great content. Appreciate your hard work.
Well done. Tim cook is a nice chef to cut every products precisely
Great job, Thanks for the hard work I'm sure a lot of people will love & save this M3 shootout comparison. 🎉
Very good comparison, besides Xcode testing, for developers, you may also want to add some tensorflow benchmarking for data science developers for Machine Learning development. Possibly some docker containerization, running kubernetes can be part of the batch.
Thanks so much for the review, finally got to see a comparison between M3Pro unbinned VS binned chips! I’m considering getting either the M3Pro MacBook Pro with 11CPU/14GPU cores or the 12CPU/18GPU cores to replace my 2015 base MacBook Pro. Just wondering, since I connect my MacBook to 2 external monitors, do you think the M3Pro unbinned chip will make a difference when it comes to performance when connected to 2 external monitors compared to the binned counterpart, especially when GPU is involved with projecting more things via 2 screens rather than 1?
@MaxTechOfficial - thank you for the Xcode comparison! You guys rock!!
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In the Logic pro test you said that the 14 inch model fan noise was crazy, but both M3 Max macbooks in this test was the 16 inch??
Could I also ask you guys for a favor very relevant to me right now? I ordered a top-spec M3 Max 16”, to replace my similar M2 Max machine, but my order was cancelled and it is now on backorder. I decided to just get it from my local Best Buy but they only sell the binned M3 Max in the 16” size.
With more RAM and 2 more CPU cores, but less memory bandwidth and 8 less GPU cores, I’m not sure whether that would be an overall upgrade or downgrade. Could you make a video comparing the top M2 Max to the base M3 Max, especially in things like video editing (including denoising blackmagic raw!) and gaming benchmarks like 3D Mark and GFX Bench? This would be an absolute lifesaver and I couldn’t thank you enough for doing it if you have a chance. Thanks guys!
How about the battery endurance?
Not needed there all over 10 hours all that matters
Very helpful video. It would be more helpful if there were comparisons between the Pro and the Max with the same size of RAM. Then we could see the difference the number of cores and the actual chip makes, and if the price difference for these is worth it.
Apple was smart to make the M3 Max chips a stand-out chip over the M3 Pro in such a drastic way. However, they played themselves when they made the past M1/M2 Pro chips so fast that the Max chips didn't really seem as worth is.
Great summary!!!
definitely enjoy the comparisons, based on my use case , I think m3 Max 14 inch base model , probably best upgrade for me coming from a m1 air 13 inch with 8 gb of ram that just doesn't cut it when doing any heavy work loads. The slightly bigger screen plus all the necessary power and active cooling should handle anything I might come across,. plus I should add the Apple Store does give out discounts to students and veterans as well in case anyone wants to save any more money if you fall into those categories.
How much is the student discount at the Apple Store?
I got the M3 Max base model on sale at BestBuy for $2700. The M3 Pro top binned model is $2200. Factor in 1TB SSD and 36GB RAM and I’m spending 600 already - that’s the same price as the base m3 max on sale. Even without the sale, you come very close to the price of the max. It’s classic apple. You add ridiculous money to up the Ram or storage and find yourself paying close to the upgraded whole new tiered model. Like 256GB on an iPad brings you very close to the price of an iPad Pro
Thank you for making this video
Thanks for the work.
I’d love to see some benchmarks on AI usage, if possible?
Awesome comparison!
Can you do it with Diffusion Bee or any other Stable Diffusion? I would love checking the performance of AI images generation with the M3 Max GPU. I have a M1 MBP, I am wiling to purchase a better machine to generate more images faster. It is hard to find benchmarks of this kind.
Would the unbined MacBook 14 inch Pro with 36 gigs of ram make much of a difference over the 18 gigs of ram?
Love the new (?) performance per dollar comparison - please ALWAYS do this on ALL your vids! Thanks. :-)
I bought M3 pro MacBook Pro 16 inch. Overall not bad at all, but 512 gb in 2024 not worth it at all. It should be at least 1 TB for a base model other than that I'm fine with it.
Hey guys thanks for the awesome comparison! Truly amazes me the amount of content you churn out and then manage to pack into a comprehensive short video basically every day!
Now I’d really like to see the M3 Max destroying… er, pitted against… a beastly PC laptop, like MSI Titan or Razer Blade 16. Do you think you could do it?
Thanks!
Yes! would love to see that too!
No battery life or temps?
great comparison but....what about the battery?
Perfect video!
Can u share your wallpaper that looks like the inside of the Mac?
Thank uuu
Awesome content
Thanks for this. I'll be rendering video and making music in Logic. My budget won't allow me to get the top of the line max, but this video has made me want to save in other areas to get the 2nd best Max to enhance Logic's capabilities and half the render times.
You should compare the M3 Pro chips with two 14” or 16” models. Not the other being a different size. Since the 16” model has better cooling thus can let the chip throttle more here and there. This would be fine if both chips were 12 cores, but only the 16” had that.
Very well done
In you first stat you have the M3 having 10 core CPU. I believe its 8 core CPU on all 3 configurations.
Thanks!
Just got the 16 inch m3 max, upgraded from a quad core 13.3 inch.. is it a big jump ?
The biggest cool factor of the base model is the battery life which is why the 16gb version of the base model still has something over the m3 pro for users that are getting this for the quality screen for media consumption combined with light music production and other basic tasks
the only issue for me about the base M3 MBP model is that it only has 2 TB3 ports (M3 Pro MBP has 3 TB4). Otherwise, the base M3 MBP spec'd out to 16/512 for S200 less than the base M3 Pro MBP isn't a bad deal for people who don't care about TB4 or the 2 extra GB RAM.
Can you update to include the macbook air's m3? that would show the effect of throttling on the longer benchmarks.
Interesting to see thermal performance difference between PRO and MAX 16 inch models.
Hi, does gray column means bigger screen size varient?
Hi guys, I need an advice. For the same price what do you recommend? A new MacBook Pro M3 Pro 18GB and 1TB or a refurbished Apple MacBook Pro M2 Max 32GB and 1TB?
Why spend all that time compar8ng and leave out the 14" max? Seems like an obvious choice to include
Sorry but if you REALLY wanted to be helpful, you should have given about 4 tiers of sweet spots for buying. All you did was say: don't buy the base one, buy the 11 core m3 pro one OR the 16 core max one. Which means that you only really helped those who had a 1800 USD or so budget or a 4000 USD one... but what happen to those who have a , say 3000 USD budget???? Which is the sweet spot there???? For example, I am debating on getting either a 16" M3 pro (12 core) with 1tb hd and 36gb ram VS a 16" max ( 14 core) with 1tb hd and 36gb ram. Where I live theres a price difference of about 500 or so USD between these two, and I am having q really hard tome decidiing if that extra is worth it. Any help? Input? Advice? Suggesttion???? It doesn't help to give a binary choice such as : spend 1800 usd or 4000 usd
RAM STRESS TEST M3 PRO 18 vs 36GB 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Loving my 18gb 14"! I'd spent the past 6 months with a 512/8gb m2 air but the ram just wasn't cutting it. Was excellent otherwise though.. However when I found the m3 for $1600 after xmas, it was impossible to turn down. Thank Santa for unwanted gifts!
Great video, as always.... Can you compare the M3 Pro to the HP Elitebook 845 g10 with AMD 7840 CPU?
Is there a difference among these processors which goes beyond the number of cores and I suppose the memory bandwidtth? Is the Max a Pro with more cores and RAM and better bandwidth or are there also other improvements, eg more cache in chip etc?
Awesome video. However, as a motion designer, I would LOVE to see after effects included here. Cheers 🙌
Thanks for this massive piece of work MaxTech. I really appreciate of all the digging here. Space Black or Silver 16-inch MacBook Pro M3 Max 16-core CPU 40-core GPU with 48 or 64 GB and 1 TB SSD for the win
It’s so funny to see the M3 8GB scoring 491 in the speedometer 2.1 while my M2 8GB is doing 510💀
I want a 14 inch, which should i get ? Music production photos and video?… just as a hobbyist
Here’s my dilemma…
M3, 24gb, 2TB $2599
M3 Pro, 36gb, 2TB $2999
Will I see a major improvement for spending the extra $400? I have an M2 Ultra Mac studio which is my primary editing machine.
I do edit on the road occasionally (I use premiere) so having something capable is a bonus (I’ve done basic stuff on a 13” MacBook Pro M1 and it seemed to perform OK). I also never plug my laptop into a monitor since I already have a desktop machine. The laptop will solely exist to go on the road with me when I have shoots out of town/state so I can dump footage and do some basic editing tasks. I typically shoot 4K but edit in 1080p.
Someone help, I ordered both so I need to decide which to keep lol
Wowww!!! Love it!!!
My only question is RAM. I have the 40 Core M3 Max with 48RAM and 4K editing with 6K BRAW in Davinci shows barely any memory swapping and seem to fly long nicely. I would be curious what 128GB ram would do in the same scenario. I even got the 1TB machine instead of more onboard storage because I found that the performance was exactly the same using internal storage versus really fast external SSDs. Davinci can only do so much and usually doesn't need the insane data transfer rates of internal SSD.
Me too
how fast are your external ssds? By performance you mean you didn't notice any difference in timeline smoothness or export times even off of external ssds?
I have been thinking refurbished M2 Max or M1 Max how will they compare? The refurbished ones I am looking at have more ram and ssd than the equivalent M3 for the same cost. I use my Mac’s for photos and Final Cut
Shut up and take my money when I have it.
What I retained from the video: 500 Designs is one of the best design studios in California.
I don't know if i missed but is it worth to upgrade for the unbinned 14' MBP? Or the 11c CPU 14c GPU 14' MBP is the best option price/quality wise?
It seems like the performance between the pro cpu's is about 10/15 percent you're better off in my eyes increasing the amount of ram and at that point differences may be a bit less.
Thanks