I did and honestly, the were all so fast it wasn't really worth talking about. They all rendered my 6-8 4k videos in 2-3 minutes. Just super fast you know? Since I don't do massive projects I'm never waiting around.
Unfortunately the M3 Pro was hobbled in this generation, so more potential buyers would do exactly what you did and upgrade to the Max. The M2 Pro had more performance cores and a faster memory bandwidth and made the decision to upgrade to Max harder, so Apple fixed that in the M3 generation. What is a real shame is that both the Pro and Max have too little RAM and storage for the price Apple charges and upgrades of both are insanely priced.
Yeah that's what it sounds like to me too from what I've been researching. I sort of get it from a marketing perspective... Maybe it's easier for people with normal needs to watch the videos and get a real idea of how well they will work. I need to see videos of all these computers doing exactly what I'm doing so I can really see which ones are better than the others... That's what I'm trying to do with my videos anyway. Hopefully it helps some.
Whew, I'd get the M3 Max, it'll come with 36GB of RAM standard, that was an easy decision based on what I saw from what you showed based on you comparing the 2 chips. I edit DCI 4K videos myself on the M1 Pro, it struggles when shooting 60fps. I went down to 24fps for a school project, since there was no need for those high frame rates on that, it was for a presentation my instructor did for extra credit points. At 24fps, no dropped frames, but the regular M1 on the 13" MacBook Pro I had wasn't dropping frames at 24fps either in 4K. When I do fitness videos, it'd be shot in 60fps, want smooth footage for those fast movements I do. I struggled with playing back videos in 4K60 on the M1 Pro. I didn't buy a Panasonic Lumix GH6 to shoot in bitrates and frame rates for enhanced quality, just for a computer to not play it back when editing.
Not sure if you've considered working with Proxies but that is definitely something you might want to consider if you'll be continuing to work on the M1 Pro. It's super easy to do once you get the hang of it.... super easy, AND, makes working on any file such a breeze. Just wanted to throw that out there... otherwise yeah, the M3 Max makes any file like working on a Proxy file... it's nuts.
@@thesahdstudio a technique I used to do was rendering out the timeline if I saw dropped frames all over the place. I use premiere pro. I set the start and end points, then render that out, it takes time to do, but once its been rendered out, the dropped frames stopped and it plays back smoothly. But no one wants to do that though. Including me, it takes too much time to do extra steps. No one is going to drop huge amounts of money on a MacBook Pro with a M1 Pro or whatever chip Apple puts on these MacBook Pros to get performance issues when editing videos and having to do computer tricks to optimize performance. For some people, its what they do to make money, things have to be done fast. People are paying an arm and a leg to get one of these and there's an expectation on what they're expecting out of these MacBook Pros. I switched to using a MacBook Pro exclusively in 2020.
@@thesahdstudio I ended up with the M3 Pro, I bumped up the RAM to 36GB. The bottlenecks I got while working with DCI 4K60 videos were gone that I was getting on M1 Pro. I found out premiere pro was using 18GB of RAM, that system had only 16GB of it. No wonder why it was dropping frames like crazy. Not enough memory and it was using swap. I wasn't doing any kind of crazy effects or color correction. All I do is simple cuts, transitions, and voiceovers. I don't do much layering on videos. You'll want the M3 Max with more RAM for that.
@@thesahdstudio since I got the 16" one, it'll be a massive upgrade there, 14" one is ok on that. A lot of places don't allow for people to charge laptops anymore. I'll have no problems doing DCI 4K60 videos and maybe even 5.8K now, I shoot open gate on that for shorts on RUclips.
M3 PRO with 36GB + 1TB HDD is the sweet spot. Awesome performance, battery life, and value. You cannot compare a 512GB / 18GB PRO to a 1TB / 48GB MAX and expect realistic results.
What do you mean I can't compare them and expect realistic results... I didn't know WHAT to expect, that's why I needed to compare them! I've never had a Mac before, and I had no clue which model is capable of what and couldn't find anyone doing tests like this. So how else are we supposed to know which laptop is right for us unless we see real world examples of the programs we actually use? These are the kind of tests I think need to be out there and will always do on my channel. That's great you found the right model for you. I haven't yet.
m3 pro with 36gb ram and 1tb ssd is a 400$ upgrade from 18gb ram 1tb ssd and another 400+ upgrade would be to the base m3 max with more ram so why spend 400$ on a m3 pro to upgrade to the 36gb ram when you can use 400$ and upgrade to a whole level chipset get more ram and more storage?
@@johnnynguyen9449 I was of that mind myself. The extra encoders were a big deal which is why I splurged on the Max. I found the battery life on the Max fantastic but I hear other people saying the less powerful Pro would have better battery since it uses less power. That seemed true in my user experience with both machines but maybe it was just based on the programs I was using. I guess it depends on what you need the computer for. Throwing extra power at simple programs might not be worth $400 for some?
@@johnnynguyen9449 I just did this as I’m a potential buyer and I can confirm that that is how they get you! What you are saying is going to cost 200 more than spending 3199 which is what I want to spend even though it’s a pro but I get 1TB and 36gbs which I will notice more then the benefits of having max in comparison to pro, I edit in 4k but if I need extra horses I can use my behmoth system which has 5900x 3080ti and 64Gbs and several tbs, I only want a laptop 😂
I tested both the m3 pro 36gb of ram and the m3 max with 48gb. I tested a very intensive 13 minute edit in Final Cut with noise reduction, power grades for color and many other layers. The m3 pro handled amazingly. They both rendered exports at equal times. I think I’m going to return the max saving myself the extra cash.
Amazing! What codecs were you working with? Yeah it wasn't until I really started pushing the layers with a tricky codec did the Max start to pull away... but I don't really edit like that often so, like you said, why spend the extra money for something you don't need?!
@@thesahdstudio so I mostly edit HEVC, MPEG-4 AAC codecs. The noticeable difference I saw when layering multiple clips that had many corrections/ luts and neat video applied was that the m3 max played back slightly smoother. It was still choppy if not rendered but it handled better. I also noticed that less memory was used on the m3 pro and the max was using more memory. I've also noticed in lack in battery life with the max. It burns through faster. I think for my needs which is primarily wedding video edits and commercial work, the M3 pro is more than sufficient. I'd be saving my self close to $1000. I may just use the extra cash and splurge on a mac studio monitor. Anyhow, your videos are fantastic. Amazing work brother.
@@Domerfly That's awesome you found the right machine man! Like you said, you just saved yourself $1,000! That's HUGE. And ooh baby, that monitor would be JUICY! Appreciate your support 👊
@@Domerfly Oh I just recently bought a 32" LG 2k monitor off marketplace for a killer deal. It's nothing special. I wouldn't mind bumping up to a 4k one soon. I've considered the Mac Studio Display but it's a bit past what I can afford at the moment.
Aw thanks for saying, I really appreciate it! I hope so too. It's tough being a stay-at-home-dad with a very limited budget and convincing my wife I need it... but between this and my other channel (TheSAHDLife) things are starting to happen so she gets it. Are you team Apple?
Definitely on team Apple. I have been using it since College. And while I'm very much a Windows user for work. Even there I'm on a Mac Studio. I really don't like the Windows OS, even though it pays the bills. I started life as a DJ, and when I went to College for Audio Engineering. Everything was running on Mac. So, System 7 was my starting point. Apple isn't perfect, but I do find that the system gets out of your way more, and you stop worrying about things that you would on a Windows computer. You just get to work. Get the best one you can afford. And you will most likely have it for many years. Also I really enjoy when people try a Mac when they have been heavy Windows users forever. Many for a very long time just ignored the platform without giving it a fair shot. I don't ever expect folks to give up Windows entirely, it does work and in some cases there are only Windows versions of an application. But, i'm seeing those that do try it, tend to appreciate it and really like the Mac and macOS. The learning curve can be a pain. But, most of it is customizable to get it closer to what yoru used to. It tends to just work with devices (with exceptions to docking stations). And they are shockingly fast at things with these M chips. keep posting videos, they are enjoyable. @@thesahdstudio
Intersting to see if a Pro in a similar setup like the Max (similar RAM and similar storage ) would behave different than with half the RAM and half the storage. If you work seriously you work stationary and not on your lap, so speed breakdown when unplugging ist not the issue in reality. Yes the big advantage is remaining the speed when unplugging and the power efficiency for the apple silicon. if you work proffesionally on the machines (earning your money with editing videos) price is not the issue its just depreciation, the question ist just economically! A stationary editing video editing machine with GPU in 4090 level (the mobile 4090 is no 4090 not even in the horizon, it just shares the name) with enough Storage and RAM and cores would probably the better solution from economical view..
After all the testing that I've done I found that the max chips have the best encoders and decoders when editing footage straight out of camera. It's really on another level apart from everything else even what Intel and Nvidia has to offer. I think their Studio would probably be among the best for video editing if I had to guess. It's a different story when it comes to VFX though. Too bad you couldn't get an Apple Studio with a 4090! The max was a much smoother experience though on the pro due to the extra encoders so I don't think it would hang with the max even with the same ram etc
@thesahdstudio I used to have a windows laptop but honestly I want to get the latest macbook pro with the specs I mentioned earlier because I need it for my workflow and mainly with editing. I want something accurate for coloring as well.. I feel it's the best out there What do you think?
@sikaprika4741 ok...honestly, because you said you need it mainly for editing (I'll assuming video editing) you should really consider the Max chip. It has extra video encoders on it which make a huge difference. If you look back at my recent videos you will see I started with the m3 pro but eventually got an older max because I just use it mainly for editing and even the older max is better than a newer pro for that purpose. I know it costs more but any of the Max chips are better but of course the newest one Is the best. If the price is too high off the m3 max perhaps look into the returned Max's on Apple's refurbed page.
Oh man, that's what I want to do... I don't even know what would happen! A 4090 would crush certain things but I wonder how it would compare in the overall editing experience. If I get the chance I will. Thanks for watching 👊
It's funny, export times don't mean anything to me so that's not a test I would ever do. It's all about the video editing experience for me... but I find that the computers which are usually good at that have good rendering speeds too. Any new Apple computer or Windows machine with a decent video card will be good for render speeds, especially if you aren't using effects. If you DONT'T have a gpu on a Windows machine then..... that'll suck lol
I can't say for sure since I had the 16" but it would basically get me through a 5-6 hour session editing 4k 60fps with no proxies etc... it was pretty nuts. I ended up getting gate M1 Max with a brand new battery instead of the M3 with and it's not close as good. Maybe 3.5 hours on the battery? Those new chips are nuts!
You mean why do I need the extra horsepower? Just for the performance. It really makes video editing extra nice. Maybe I'm feeling a little entitled but I rarely spend money on myself... I've been a stay at home dad for 9 years and have been working my butt off on growing my channels (TheSAHDLife is my other) for the last 3, using the wrong computer and being frustrated while editing. May channels are starting to gain momentum and I'd like to have the best tool to help me expand my abilities and creativity. I could get by with the Pro, but the Max really feels exciting and makes me want to use it... and to push it.
@@thesahdstudio Thanks for the reply. In your video it actually show the gpu and ram being at higher usage while you were testing out the same video work on the max. Apart from this, how long do you think the software/system can be updated for the current MacBook Pro. Cause I know some old MacBooks are not able to use the new OS anymore. I would like to use the laptop for around 8-10 years if I’m gonna spend so much.
Hmmm, are you talking about the Logitech Options + app? I can't remember what I showed in the video. It's a great app though and allows me to program the mouse for each app. For example I have the back/forward side buttons on the mouse programmed for undo/redo and it really speeds up my workflow!
@@x7judy lol! That is just a cheap laptop desk I got from Amazon. Similar to this: www.amazon.ca/PrimeCables-Cushion-Laptop-Cellphone-lapdesk/dp/B09LM34JGP/ref=sr_1_14?crid=11T9ELAXUMAU7&keywords=laptop+desk&qid=1701795945&sprefix=laptop+des%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-14
I know... me too. I wish I had more resources to test this kind of stuff on multiple machines but I'm still a small 'tuber doing it out of pocket! I just picked up a used M1 Max so will be comparing that one vs the M3 Max shortly.
I returned my 14” M3 pro, the $2000 model the other day. Looking to get the 16” M3 pro with either 18 or 36gb ram. Too bad Best Buy doesn’t offer the pro chip with 1tb of storage. Have to do the 512 one. I think for longevity it might be better to get the 36gb ram model. That way I might not have to worry about memory swap. I’m also running windows 11 pro with parallels for the gaming. The extra ram should help.
@@thesahdstudioFor what I’m doing, which is practically nothing, it’s a wonder if upgrading to the $3500 max model would be better. Except for trying to get into swift and doing some gaming on windows 11 with parallels, do you think the price jump might be worth it? I’m concerned about the max with the heat and the extra fan noise.
When it comes to serious video editing, go big or go home. The rich man buys once, the poor man buys twice. Basically if you are not buying the M3 MacBook Pro maxed out for nearly 8k then you are setting yourself up for disappointment
You know, I kinda love your comment. Right now, I REALLY love using the m3 max, but I'm waffling. It's so much money... I've never spent half this amount on a computer before. But when I'm editing I'm happy, it does what I want it to do. If I return it though I can get so much for the cost... I'm not sure what to do yet. But thanks for this message. I really appreciate it.
Buy it nice or buy it twice. The pro will still do everything you want just a little slower. Also I highly suggest to save space and everything by using solely hevc / xavc hs there’s no reason to use si in reality. I’m sure you’ve done a bunch of testing. The easy middle ground should be the m3 pro 16” with 36gb ram spec that’s in stock everywhere as a base spec. The max pumps but it’s soooo much more money it’s not worth it and less battery. When you clean up your workflow to h.265 the hardware does great. For a grand + less
@@thesahdstudioI’m going to be honest at the section of you sitting on the couch you said “my usual video style” and frequently said in your example test that you rarely if ever edit like this so to then choose the max at the end “because it makes more sense” literally doesn’t make sense with the entire rest of the video being the context.
On my other main channel, in those videos I put a lot more effort into effects and things like that. On this channel it's a little bit more me talking at the camera with basic edits. But yeah I'm returning the M3 Max and I have a used M1 Max lined up. It should be enough to cover my bases for the main editing I do, and I'm trying to figure out some workarounds to handle the effects or motion graphics etc for when I want to use that because the max can't even handle it and I don't want to pay that much for basic edits.
@@FrancescaCare My main camera is the Sony Zv-E1 with a G-Master 24mm F1.4 lens... but I just picked up a ZV-E10 to use as a b-cam. Time will tell if I keep that one!
i do video editing, motion graphics, and some 3D design work. i saw that the 16' M3 Max was $450 off at Costco this past weekend (got it for $2,950). i wanted a laptop that i know will last me the next 7 years for heavy duty work. no regrets! thank you for creating this video!
That was hilarious.🤣You think that your videos don't serve pros, but trust me some of your videos have no alternatives on youtube and are very helpful for people like me searching for some details like this. Very well done and hope you get the best out of this machine.🤗
Awesome! I am glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for the comment. I am doing my best to create the kind of videos I would want to see, knowing there are others out there in similar boats. I do my best to offer some type of tests or perspective that isn't usually done or talked about. So your comment really makes the effort put in feel worth doing 👊. Out of the box the Max froze up when I was updating it... then initially the testing wasn't very different But, once I got it purring, it feels like it's on another level. I still think the battery feels significantly worse using the extra power but in my case it's worth it. I DO wonder what's right around the corner with the Intel stuff though... Is there any chance you would go in that direction or will you get the new Studio for sure?
@@thesahdstudio I don't think I wanna go to old school x86. Going for the Studio when the M3 Max helps a lot as it's a workstation on my palm that I can transfer everywhere easily especially when I go away from my region. So it's not really 100% a laptop, and I hate them, but also pretty much portable. Guessing in the future I might get offers outside the country. Who knows, might just get none but I like to be prepared.
As you said, Apple does a great job of making it seem like upgrading is easy and important. It's so hard to sort out what the right move for you is. I think a lot of us get deluded into justifying spending more money when we don't really need it. I suspect many of us could get by with a Pro just fine, even without upgrading beyond 18 GB. Do I really care if it takes me a couple extra minutes to render compared to a Max? Is that really worth an extra $2k on an already expensive machine? No matter what you choose, you're going to be using a dated model 3-4 years from now. I say don't spend the money unless you are prevented from doing something otherwise. I landed on the 16" M3 Pro. All I upgraded was the storage to 1 TB as I have 200 GB worth of sound libraries and I wanted some breathing room. It was tough to talk myself down from doubling the memory. I used many "future proofing" arguments on myself. But I'm glad now that I didn't do it. This machine is doing everything I need it for with ease.
That's awesome... the Pro is fantastic. I ultimately caved in to the thought of 'More ram!' and 'More cores!' but did notice an improvement based on my usage. But I agree with you and I don't think most people would even notice the boost of ram and cores in their daily usage. Can't wait to keep using it and seeing what it can do!
Awwwww yeah!! You going for the yolo FULL load eh?! Dam!! Jealous. What a beast of a machine. Wild! Let us know what you think. Do you mind if I ask why you need that much storage? Would it be worth considering external storage for the stuff you don't need as much? I mean it would be great of course if you can afford it, but if it's not necessary you might be able to get the 1-2tb and plug in an external for when you need it. Enjoy!
I just bought one too. Waiting for it to arrive. Bitting my nails, watching videos asking myself if I made a mistake. Your Video helped me out! I’m a subscriber now 🎉😊-thanks!
Haha that's exciting! You'l have to let me know what you think once you've had a chance to use it. Best laptop I've ever used no question!@@lucianoaldanaii4664
I’m actually willing to trade in both of my M2 MacBook Air 15 inch and my old 2017 MacBook Pro intel to get $900 trade in credit for the BASE M3 Max model with no configurations, since I graduated from college for my AA degree in Studio Arts Graphic Design Major, and if anyone has used the Max version, what has been your experience??
I can't speak on anything other than using it for video editing but it sure was fantastic for that and I don't think you would regret it. With that being said the M3's came out last Oct/Nov, so the M4's are right around the corner. I mean there will ALWAYS be new computers right around the corner, and the good news is all the Silicon Max chips are SO good... I mean heck, I ended up returning both the M3's to buy the M1 Max and don't regret that choice. Hope that helps.
Yeah that's a nice setup. I find the extra video encoders from the Max lineup noticeable while video editing in Resolve so for me it was worth it. But for most and those who edit in Final Cut the Pro should be more than enough. That battery life too right? Sick.
video editing is one thing. Develpoment is where the m3's not only shine, but the m3max beats a 13900K desktop. I had many windows laptops, they all suck. The fan noise, the battery life..and at this point the m3max doesnt even have a laptop competitor CPU wise. The ram is also way faster.
For sure. Switching to a Mac has been something I've considered for a long time and at this very moment the gap seems quite large between them (like you said talking about noise, heat, battery, performance). Now, it sounds like Intel might drop something somewhat impressive in the new year but... it doesn't sound like it will all of the sudden be ahead of Apple or anything. I'm happy with this purchase so far!
@@thesahdstudio the limitation is x86 ISA itself. It is simply impossible to make the chip so much more efficient to compensate the ISA. Time for intel and amd to switch to ARM. As long as many ignorant people fooled by mainstream commercial benchmarks buy this x86 garbage they will keep pushing it to the market.
Right? To be fair I ended up getting a 4080 and it was slower than I expected at first UNTIL I switched the footage from h.265 to h.264 where it really picked up and delivered the speeds I was hoping. Thinking back to when I created THIS footage I don't believe I tested out h.265 vs h.264 and might have been using the harder footage as well. Either way the MacBook Pro's are just fantastic when it comes to editing videos. I'm still so impressed.
I believe it depends a lot on what video editor you are gonna use aswell. Some might be more optimized than others or will be after an update. This makes choosing the perfect MacBook even harder. I’m in the same Windows boat. Coming from MS-DOS to 3.11, … but lately, since returning to iPhone, been thinking more of trying macOS. Would be a more desktop choice between macmini or studio for me, since i don’t really need to be portable and work/play around from home.
I agree with you. It'll be interesting to see how things progress. These are both awesome for editing in Resolve though I can say that with certainty. So you went with the iPhone first eh? Any regrets there? I'm still rocking the Android phone which makes it feel like I am not fully enveloped into the Apple ecosystem and benefiting from that.
It's really seeming like I will keep the Max.... it's great. I don't think I'll regret it though I will forever have a hard time believing I paid that much for a laptop lol. What computer are you rocking?
I don't personally. But I'm assuming since the max chip has the double video encoders I would say it would be a huge upgrade over any Pro. I would get the Max in a heartbeat since I do a lot of video editing.
Because I use it for video editing and I want a great experience with that I would take the Max right away. The Pro is still great though. They are both incredible but the Max with the extra media engines is way better for editing and is still great for daily usage. Hope that helps!
I think it looks like you were working on proxy footage for the most of it, I might be wrong but I can see the proxy indicator activated. But really appreciate the effort you put in to make our life's a little bit easer to make a decision. Much Love my friend!
I had the setting 'Use proxies IF available'' ticked which is why you can see that indicator, but I can assure you I did not have any proxies being used during this video. Those computers are just THAT fast!
I passed for my RUclips channel from a MacBook M1 Pro to a M3 Max… you decided to do the best thing. The difference is that I still did not hear any ventilation on my MacBook and I live in the hot Sardinia. Hope it will always be like that. This said I subscribed to your channel because it is always good to help each other and fellow RUclipsrs 😊
Yeah going from the Pro to the Max in any version of the chip is a big difference when it comes to video editing, so that's great you were able to up your game. The m3 max is awesome! How exciting 👊 And thanks for the support! Edit: It looks like you talk about MMA on your channel. Nice! I love MMA also. Too bad I can't understand you 🤣
Ehehhe I Speak about traditional martial arts (specifically the Japanese ones) and about Japanese and Korean History ^_^. This said.. it is always awesome to find people like you and been able to subscribe to your channel. Why? In the future when you will become like Max Tech.. I can say that I was one of the first ones eheh @@thesahdstudio
@@KankukanAiki What a great comment to start my day with! Thank you for the kind words. I'm going through a dip right now with my RUclips efforts and your comment is a big boost. I really appreciate it. All the best with your efforts also 👊
@@thesahdstudio I understand what you are saying ! I have often the same dip with my own channel.. I dream to speak of tech but my audience love what I do..so my fantasy runs but I am stuck with what I started with. Please do not surrender. You have already a great channel and I really do think that someday in the near future I will be writing to a new Max Tech level channel!
That's nuts you paid that for the base pro, pro lol. I just got that model for $1799 same 18gb of ram and 512gb drive. I would never want to live in Canada where everything costs so much more.
Yeah man launch prices were Not cheap! I think the prices scale compared to the wages etc are here but yeah... They ain't cheap!! That's sweet that you got it though very exciting 👊 how do you like it?
hi i need a suggestion I am programmer and photographer as hobby. now as a interest in photography and videography i am looking to buy mac to edit photo and videos but i am wondering which one to buy as i will probably keep it for another 4-5 years for sure. I normally record video in gopro hero 11 in 4k 60fps and currently wondering to buy macbook pro m3 pro 18gb 1tb here in finland. do you think its a good investment regarding those 4-5 years in hand or should choose its MAX version.
Ok, so I haven't really edited with that Video Codec but either way, I think any of the MacBooks would be enough. The only suggestion I would have is that you opt for at least 32gb of ram. I am personally considering downgrading from the M3 Max to the M1 Max. But again, the codec you record in makes the biggest difference at all. If that codec is easy to edit OR you quickly convert it to, say, prores, it will make your editing experience so much smoother regardless of what computer you have. Have you considered refurbished ones from Apple?
Hi great video. My 2019 Intel based 15 inch MacBook Pro crapped out, so I had to upgrade. I ended up upgrading to the M3 Pro 16 inch MacBook Pro and I love it! The configuration I got was the 512GB SSD and 36GB Unified Memory. I went with this since 1TB and higher external SSD drives are coming down in price, so I save my videos and photos on the external to keep the 512GB SSD clean.
This is probably the best comparison video I have seen! Are the rumors of the M4 chip true? Dropping later this year? Or is it looking like an 18mo cycle?
Glad you found the video! I'm not sure. I can't imagine they would change the cycle... I guess it depends on the production of the 2nm chips. I know at this point when I get comments asking me if they should buy the M3 I'm like well just wait 6 months... Get the m4 lol. It's always a waiting game... Sometimes you just have to pick one and stick with the decision.
Thanks for the comment and welcome to the channel! I sure am a fan of the Max chips for video editing. But the newest ones still aren't cheap. Not sure if you saw the fallout videos but I ended up returning the new ones and buying a used M1 Max which I've been very happy with.
For sure. I mean I think for most people, the Air might be an even better choice. The MacBook Pro is a pretty serious computer that might be overkill more most. It's hard finding that sweet spot though... it took me awhile.
I picked up a 14in m3 pro 18gb 512gb and love it so far. I have more powerful machines if i wanna do work. I just wanted a good sceen, battery life and the speakers are great. I might do light video editing on it, but it's more of a daily driver web surfing machine. I picked up a 13900hx 4080 laptop not long ago, and it's very fast, but the battery life is crap. As far as desktops, i have a 7950x3d 4090, 7800X3d 7900xtx, 12700k 3080ti. I never sell anything. i might be a pc hardware hoarder. This is my first mac I've been a pc guy for a long time and i would never only use a mac i like gaming too much but i can see the appeal of a mac and the apple ecosystem. It works great with my 15 pro max and airpod2 pro's. I find the 14in to be the perfect size for viewing and portability and love the new black color.
I love comments like this... They are both good in their own ways right? For video editing nothing is going to compete when it comes to graphics and adding effects like a video card... But as far as battery life and portability goes and power on the run.. Apple is on another level. They're like when Volkswagen was cheating and nobody could touch them, that's how far ahead they feel. My friend you should sell some of your old hardware! Haha. Get some money back while you can and help someone save a few bucks. Heck I'll buy one off you! I've been adding more effects my new videos and that's still a bit of a struggle with the M3 Max but everything else is great.
@@thesahdstudio this is great! the same conclusion i got to. i got the base m3 max mbp 16 inch with 14/30 and 36gb ram after I tested the base M3 14 inch with only 8gb ram. it's light and day difference. But still my PC desktop Ryzen 9 5950x 128gb Ram and rtx 3090ti with 24 gb RAM crunches faster at many tasks than the M3 Max, especially in the Adobe Creative Suite. Denoise is faster on the PC than on the Max. I could have gotten the 16/40 Max 48tb Ram but it just was not worth it for me since i've seen reviews that that model is less power efficient and sometimes throttles due to more cores. Apple is still king in efficiency versus performance, but not in price/performance. So the PC with a great GPU is sometimes better for some tasks, while the Max is better with apps optimised for it such as FinalCutPro.
Nice! Yeah I didn't know enough about the cpu/gpus on the Max, so since I was upgrading from the Pro I wanted to push it and see what the big one was capable of you know? @@octny
Hey, hope you can help me. I'm considering buying a 16-inch MacBook Pro with the M3 Max chip, 40-core GPU, 16-core CPU, 48GB RAM, and 1TB SSD for €3100 (in Europe). While I don't necessarily need such powerful specs, I plan to use it for vms, occasional gaming (like CS:GO), and typical work/school tasks. I think the M3 or M3 Pro would be sufficient, i only consider this M3 max because of the good deal i can get. My main concern is the battery life with this configuration. i want to ensure it offers good battery life.
The Max has outstanding battery life. You don't need to worry about that. I'm not sure what VMS is... And it's not going to be amazing for gaming. Are you sure Counter-Strike works on Apple? I feel like I tried to install it on mine and it didn't work... I could be wrong. There's some pretty gnarly Windows Snapdragon lappies coming out pretty soon that might be a lot cheaper. Are you pretty tied to the Apple ecosystem?
Both great machines! There are reasons why they are different... it's just tough for people to figure out exactly where they fit into the lineup. The Max really is overkill unless you have a specific program you know you need it for. For me, the extra video encoders make it absolutely worth it, but if it weren't for that, I'd be more than happy with the Pro.
If you click on the window option in the menu bar for activity monitor you can get the GPU and CPU monitors that will show you exactly how much of each you are using. They are really handy and give you a nice graph to see how much you are using total and for each core! Cheers Great video comparison
Thanks for the tip! I was watching Tech Notice talk about how Mac utilizes ram and it was a bit confusing... Meaning that just because they are being used doesn't necessarily mean they are full. I'll have to do more testing out for myself though. 👊
So it's months later and while I ended up buying the M1 Max Pro which was great and good value. I sold it and built a Windows machine so that I could have a nice beautiful Monitor and do a little bit of gaming. What do you need the computer for?
@@thesahdstudio videos, photography, animation/motion design, graphic design. I think After Effects is my main concern. It costs so much, but will it add so much if I get max vs pro. grr... I know building my own PC would be best in terms of performance-cost ratio, but I really need an on-the-go machine at this point in life.
Many testing sites and youtubers are saying that the M3 Max has better battery life than the M3 Pro, but in your experience, it is the opposite. Do you know what might be causing this?
Most likely high power mode? lol. Well I had the Pro for a week or so of daily usage, and it was great... the first day I got the Max I was pushing it to the limits. Now that I've had it for a few days and am using it for daily usage it's great too. Really solid! I would probably trust them over me as I'm not testing them directly, it was more anecdotally... I think because it has more power I was more curious about testing it with gaming and editing etc so it made my usage change... but now that I'm keeping it in lower power mode, as well as adjusting the brightness throughout the day this battery seems fantastic!
bro. choose Macbook pro M3 pro 14 inch ( 1 TB SSD) but i confusing which specs enough for graphic designs and 4k video editing works ??? X 11 core CPU, 14 core GPU ( m3 pro) 36gb ram or 12 core CPU, 18 core GPU (m3 pro) RAM : 36 GB
You're just responded to your other message hopefully you got it! What's the price difference? Can you afford the better specs? You could always do what I did and just buy an older M1 or M2 and save a few bucks.
Excellent work! I can totally relate to your talking points from 12:30-14:00 nailed it. Thank you for this vid. Felt very natural and down to earth. -Marc
Thanks for the comment! And I'm glad you found the video. It was a pretty crazy experiment for me to switch over my computers and dive head first into the Apple world. I learned a lot and I'm glad others are resonating with the videos. Are you rocking a MacBook or thinking about getting one?
@@thesahdstudio I’m looking to get my first one at the moment. Long time iPhone/ipad user. Been editing on my iPad for a little over 2 years now. I’ve outgrown it but am experiencing a bit of paralysis by analysis on which one to buy….i almost wish there were fewer MacBook options for dummies like me. Your video helped quite a bit tho. I really appreciate the real-world demos you shared because the benchmark stuff doesn’t do much for me. I just wanna open an editor to cut and scrub on a timeline w/ no lag 😁
@@fishing4dinner Get yourself a Max chip my friend. I'll make the decision easy for you. The 16" ones have the best cooling, so if you can afford one, even a M1 Max, get the Max chip. Buttery video editing out of camera. Haha hopefully that doesn't make things harder for you ;)
I think pro is good for entry level to medium level of editing. It's fast it handles most footage good and Studdards when you drop effects and stuff as you saw but if you aren't doing big projects you should be ok and it should get you through. I don't think pro couldn't handle the heavy work load I just think at the professional level every sec counts everything when it comes to studdaring and butter movements matter. Like if you editing a large project like a wedding you want the m3 max because you want to move seamlessly through apps you want the playback to run back smooth with effects titles stuff like that. If you doing heavy work loads like that I feel after watching this video you need the max. If you aren't doing big projects every week and just need a powerful machine pro with more ram and ssd you should be good. But if you are a professional you might just want to spend the extra money. Every sec counts you want a machine that can move seamlessly through big files render quick and doesn't Studdar on the timeline max matters.
Exactly. That's pretty much how I feel. The Pro is dam awesome until you really push it. Most people won't push it and for them it will be dam awesome!
really loving the content glad you are enjoying both machines and seeing the difference I think after watching a lot of videos people need to realize once you go professional its expensive for that standard on machines. the pro being 2500 its already expensive with the max its that 3k range you spending some real money to dedicate towards the craft. @@thesahdstudio
In My experience Even the Max is limited for a real professional workflow, and it is because when production scale up You need something that can connect to a fast server to edit, and the dongles and adapters available for M1,2 and 3 are just unreliable and tend to disconnect. For example I'm now editing a show that is eating 96TB of space and I just cant use my MBP to edit since I don't want to spend $300 every three months on dongles that end up in the trash can. So I would keep the most affordable laptop and get a Mac Studio, you'll have Best of both worlds and still have another thousand bucks for a good monitor or a Big hardrive.
Enjoying watching your adventure. You are right about Apple not making it easy. I had a 16” M1 Max but I really should have bought the 14”. Sales rep day job and hobby photographer and drone pilot on the weekend. Needed compact with some power. Landed on the 14/18/18/1 TB M3 Pro 14” and couldn’t be happier. Paired with my 11” iPad Pro it’s the perfect mobile office and handles my hobbies needs to. Looks like that Max is the ticket for you. The MBP is the big spend. you can add the other peripherals (iPhone,iPad) later. Cheers!
Did you find the 16" was just too heavy and cumbersome? I am a big screen guy so am always curious that people like/enjoy/prefer the smaller screen. With that being said I feel like these Apple screens are a little taller which make them feel better than their Windows counterparts. Thanks for watching and chiming in! I'm excited to add the rest of the stuff sooner rather than later but not sure I'll be able to make that happen lol.
@@thesahdstudio Yeah, for me it was just to cumbersome. I'm in and out of customers stores all day and spend a lot of time working out of my truck. I was using a 12.9" iPad for my job and just go tired of fighting iPadOS. iPadOS has come a long way (I had the original) and I still have a spot for the iPad in my life, but iPadOS doesn't compare to MacOS for getting work done. I'll always fondly remember the 16", but it just sat on my desk. The 14" is my Mama Bear. It's hooked up to a Samsung 43" and a 24.5" LG Ultra Fine at home and the screen is big enough for the day job. I can even tether the 11" iPad Pro in the field if I want a 2 display solution. Looking forward to your next installment! 😀 Welcome to the world of Mac (made the same move in '09)! Enjoy the rest of your Sunday!
@@jimtipton8888 That's interesting, thanks for sharing. Now I just have to return all the stuff I'm not going to keep 😂 (iPad Air and m3 Pro - fyi I bought a used iPad 10th gen with a pencil for half the price of the air. The air was better but... value). Almost done and back to "new" normal for me. Can't wait for the dust to settle and get comfortable with all this stuff. Appreciate the support 👊
the 14 is junk...how can you be this much ignorant?? Unless you get the Mx Pro version dont buy a 14. All these weak people complaining about half a kilo weight difference be🤡🤡
I dont understand... If the m3 pro does not use much the fans it handles better the task? Or is is healthy on the m3 max if its going loud and its good for the laptop just not for the ear?
It doesn't handle the task as well. The fans will come on when it's rendering for example... And it will go way faster with the max then the pro. The pro still does a really good job but you just have little split seconds that you'll be waiting around for. But it still handles 4K video editing pretty easy in the right codecs. For most people I think the pro is the way to go... But if you want to get better at video editing in 4k and have multiple stacked videos the max is the way to go for sure
I have not since on the Zv-e1 shooting in this format is limited to 24/60 fps, whereas I prefer shooting in 30 fps. Maybe I'll try it for science. If I do I'll let you know what happens!
@@louinekay Not sure if you caught the recent video I did talking about codecs but it's funny, I've actually gone in the exact opposite direction for this reason. I don't care about size of the files I just want the buttery editing experience so I'm filming in the most uncompressed codec possible on my camera lol. But yeah I'll try it out soon!
In the short time I had both I felt like the Pro battery lasted longer for daily use. BUT, with that being said I was pushing the Max harder so it's tough to say for sure. They both are incredible batteries and I wouldn't let that be the point to get one over the other. It's more about whether or not you need the extra encoders etc that make the Max better for more hardcore usage. And if you don't need it, then don't get it.
For me, I just use my M3 Pro for email, web browsing and journaling. Still wondering if I should upgrade to the Max, but don't know why? Future proofing maybe?
Honestly, you definitely do not need it... the ONLY reason I would say get it is if you know you'd be doing complicated video editing in the near future. The M3 Pro is still good enough for that... you could grow a MASSIVE RUclips channel on the Pro it's that good. The M3 Pro alone is probably overkill for you lol. If I were you (and in the window of returning the M3 Pro), I would consider the M3 Air which I think will very likely come out in the next month or so. But even still, the extra horsepower of the Pro might be nice if you don't mind the size.
So if i would like to buy a macbook pro for final cut and editing 4k videos to then upload for education etc, which chip is better mate? Is it the pro or the max that i should go for? Have never used a Mac before
Honesty the Max makes video editing an amazing experience. The Pro is solid too but if you can afford the extra bucks, get the Max... any version of the chip. I had the M3 Max which was fantastic but I ended up buying the M1 Max... a few months have passed so you could probably get a good deal on a used M2 Max. Make sure you get at least 32/36gb ram and 1tb if possible. You'll love it! The battery is nuts.
Please help me, I am confused between Legion 9i and M3 Pro Max 36 GB 1TB varaint. I have no problem regarding the price, and both the OS are ok for me. I use a few VM for ethical hacking apart from these I program and also do video edits. Please recommend which one will be worth.
I think the M3 Pro Max with 48 gigs of RAM 16/40 is the way to go. The performance on battery is just so unbelievable for that reason alone I just love it and wouldn't go to a Windows PC. If you don't mind your computer getting loud and hot then yeah you could probably get better value from the windows stuff though. The performance and the graphics card would be nice for effects but for overall editing the Mac is sick and I would recommend that. Please keep in mind though I am no Pro I'm just a regular consumer trying this stuff out for myself.
It’s always crazy that any reviewers show laptops speed from tests but not from real use and always with the windows laptops connected to the power. But laptops are made to be run in battery and Mac’s always are consistent.
Yeah Macs battery aren't even a fair fight... Well at least they haven't been. There's some new stuff coming out soon with Snapdragon that looks pretty interesting.
Yeah nice! Save the money if you can. The extra video encoders on the Max chips are huge for me. But if you don't need them then who cares! The M3 pro is sick!!
I think the problem might be Davinci Resolves is not using the Neural Engine in apple silicon. I can tell through the monitor on my M1 Max 16". It's not using it even with the "Use Neural Engine if possible" button is on.
Hell yeah. Thats the kind of review I was looking for. I'm coughing at the pricetag in my cart right now, and I needed to know what these are like as daily drivers. Great job - Subscribed
Awesome, glad you found the video!! I mean they are INSANE as daily drivers. Probably overkill. I'd get the Air for that UNLESS I needed more of a workhorse, in which case the MacBooks are incredible. I'd only get the Max if you need the extra video encoders. It was a big difference while video editing and quite a bit noticeable while gaming. Which one you thinking of getting?!
@@thesahdstudio I edit videos for my channel and social media. My current MacBook is from 2016 and DaVinci just eyerolls at me when I load a clip so it’s time to update. I went with the Max. All of the reviews I saw before yours were statistic-based. I wanted to see, and you nailed it, what’s it like in real life normal use side by side. Great edit👏
Oh yeah... I've tried to drain the power as fast as possible for maximum performance. I think the battery health has gotten a lot worse over the years. Even still, when it was plugged in it locked up once it got hot. Would love to try a newer Windows laptop though in this kind of side by side testing.
This absolutely is NOT a thing what are you evren talking about?? There is no change this isnt intel to apple silicon its just a new generation software is already set.
@@frostgodx hehe. I know on my Windows/Desktop, the Nvidia Experience app was always updating itself for newer software / newer hardware etc... I assume they commenter was just saying if there's tweaks companies can make to their software/games etc to make them run smoother on the M3 chips that might happen in the near future. But hey, it sounds like you might actually know what you're talking about where I certainly do not!
Compared to my Windows laptop with the graphics card the fans on the Max sounded like they were barely spinning. And since pushing it a couple days ago I have yet to hear the fans again even though I've done less intensive video editing while playing Hearthstone at the same time.
Yeah I think the pro is good enough to for sure. I mean I'm not a professional RUclipsr but I definitely enjoy having the extra power of the max chip for my workflow... And I'm a little older so I don't mind paying a few hundred extra bucks for it. Could I still grow my Channel with the M3 pro? Definitely
Yeah for sure. I'm still learning what it all means myself so figured I would share it for people who actually know in case they're interested in the results.
I’m in the same boat brother, great content. Tired of benchmarks, rather see how it drives. I got a m3 pro 16 and torn on if I need to upgrade to either the 36 gb or jump to the max.
GREAT. Now the question comes from your previous vid. when you showed the problem of the mackbook pro not able to color grade smoothly...did the max have the same issue?
Ok, so, the Pro could color grade just fine. That's no problem. The problem it had was it was quite slow when applying magic masks, adding 3d fx, and stacking timelines. The Max can do all of those things much better. The editing is buttery smooth although to be fair, adding 3d fx aren't amazing... but that's where computers with dedicated video cards pull ahead. Really happy with the Max still, though I ended up getting the M1 Max!
just bought an m3 max with 96gb ram … shy of $4k … the deal was too good to pass. i ll change it in 3y … if i can resell it for 1000.. then it means $3 per day to ‘rent’ a super machine for 3y… … bargain!
@@thesahdstudio lol …. … here it goes: saturday i picked a silver 36g/m3 max at apple store… tested it yesterday, but last night saw the online deal for the 96gb at just 100 more than the 36gb at apple. bought it at 2345 (non-apple deal, until 03/17 only) and email said i can pick it up in 2 days. will return the 36gb to apple when i get the 96gb. testing the 36gb yesterday using safari (~50 tabs open) + docker + vscode + xcode, it sometimes started to swap (docker alone was at times claiming 15gb). before i tried the air m3/16gb/1T for 1 week+1d (have been using a loaner air m2/16gb since january). it was a dream machine, except for the heavy swapping (never tried docker on it)… was Really bummed as I was testing it at 16gb (store pickup) before i was going to order online a 24gb/1T to wait until m4 pro and only then commit to a “bigger”-but-midrange machine. my last machine was an m1 pro 32g from work for 2 years. as new job only gives me a heavy 32gb lenovo with a nvidia 4060, I wanted a base m3 to have access to hw ray tracing, with view to replace my own mini 2018+egpu (has 64gb ram and still does better at 3d rendering than all the m2 gpus) with a m3 studio max/ultra when it comes out in june while using the m3 air laptop for just 1y… that plan died with the really heavy swapping, even for just 1 year. so the plan is all changed and I think i will keep the max/96gb in parallel with an itx pc with 7900xt (bought the card for below msrp and will get a 16core/32th AMD mobile cpu with 64 or 128gb) until i do get a studio max/ultra, i guess m5, to be all apple again…. … …. but I have 2 weeks to decide that.
Proceed to show everybody how the Max is miles ahead of the pro and not even remotely laggy. Then says there is no reason to get the max over the pro.... really? lol. You basically just convinced a lot of people that the Max is way better. hah
Well Most people don't do video editing. The double video encoders on the max is a no brainer for video editing... But if you don't need them it's not worth the extra $$$
I'm still using the final version of the intel mac and looking to upgrade. Is the m3 max worth the upgrade over the m2 max in your opinion? Or should I just got for the M3 pro? Thanks in advance for your advice
What will you be using the machine for exactly? I definitely don't think it's worth getting the Max unless you need it. The Pro is still fantastic. But since I do video editing and want the very best experience the extra video encoders on the max chip are noticeable for me.
Nice review thanks. However I would like to see a MacBook Pro M2 vs M3 Pro. I'm thinking that the memory bandwidth of 200 GB/s on the M3 chip would be slower than the M2 chip which has 400 GB/s. We can add cores and RAM, but if the pipe line isn't big enough, well, there would be a pipe jam, I think. I'm no computer engineer, but I do love physics. There is something here I need to learn or Apple is pulling the wool over our eyes. What do you think? Love you vids, keep shooting.
Thanks for the comment! It's a tough call. I'm still learning about this stuff as I go as well. I think apple is really trying to keep separation between the models... They don't really want the one computer to rule them all in the mid-tier price point. But with that being said I think for most people's workloads the smaller bandwidth is more than enough. I really wish I had more access to computers so I could run the tests myself because I have to buy this stuff with my own money and being a stay-at-home dad I don't have the biggest budget!
@@thesahdstudio Yeah, I hear you. My first Mac was a G3 which I specifically bought for video editing when mini DV cameras first came out. I've upgraded every 4-5 years or so. Each upgrade had good points, but there were always some bad moves by Apple for each updated computer that left me scratching my head. The reason I haven't moved back to Windows (which at the time was 2000 pro I think) is the OS. I just love Apple's OS. It's the hook inside the worm that gets me every time. I'm looking to upgrade again, so I really appreciate your review. Thanks for your reply.
Nice you went straight to 16/40 heh, awesome machine. I went for the 14/30 which doesn’t heat up as much on a 14”. Congrats!! - question when you wipe the display with a micro fibre, does it feel like it’s flexing a bit or does it feel solid? Mine flexes a bit almost like the screen isn’t glued down hmm. Going to check in the store if that’s normal. Also, have you tried Final Cut?
lol right? I figured if I was spending that amount of money I may as well just go for it. My other channel has been growing nicely so this will give me the tools I need to be efficient for growing both channels. I just wiped the screen to test it out and honestly it feels solid. Yeah maybe just bring a cloth to the store and start wiping down the displays to compare 😂 Nothing like spending that kind of money to realize or think you might have one that's not perfect eh? You happy with yours? Anything you aren't digging?
I bought it from a seller on Marketplace. Actually he sold me a camera lens months ago, then when I saw he was selling the laptop we actually became friends through messaging. I have a lot of great experiences buying things used, but this seller in particular went out of his way to make sure the laptop was in the best condition possible for when I got it (thanks to AppleCare). I think having AppleCare made me a lot more comfortable with the purchase. I considered Refurbed but this seemed a better deal.
Naw the M3's don't really overheat. The only time I noticed the fans continually was when I was playing a game that wasn't optimized for the chips. I wouldn't even worry about that one bit.
you can play all windows games in sonoma with the game porting toolkit .... i own a M3 max 40 Gpu cores 16 inch and gaming is great , so is Emulation too.
Do your fans kick in and does your Max get hot while gaming? I'd love to get a few more games working on here. Path of Exile works decent but it's not great. I might try Diablo 4 just to see how it runs but sadly I don't even want to play more Diablo 4 :( You playing anything fun?
@@thesahdstudio i'm mostly playing emulation like PS3 , dreamcast; Xbox titles that i loved but i've tried God Of War Ragnarok with game porting toolkit and despite the fact that it is some sort of virtualisation( but made by Apple to play windows games and see how they behave ) it is quite good if you play at 1800p in medium to high , B ut of course you'll have way better results playing native mac games like Lies of P, Baldur's Gate 3, RE Village , FF XIV or no man sky and so on ,. Apple is focusing on GPU more and more i think to bring more gamers and 3D artist on the mac who need a powerful GPU , on the 16 it is way less noisy or hot than on the 14 inch , No fans on any emulators, no fan nor heat playing native mac games, but Playing with game porting toolkit , fans can go near 3600rpm and it's a bit hotter , but nothing like the 14 inch M3 max . some games have glitches but overall most of the windows big games are playable . of course a native port would allows those titles to run at higher res + quality but it's already quite amazing that they run even not plugged without perfomance loss... that is my experience so far, i have kept the 16 inch and sent back the 14 inch for various reasons. i do not mind the size.
Yeah that's probably a smart thing to do, but I just loved the editing experience so much it's hard to go back to anything less, hehe. We'll see, I have some time to think about it, but I appreciate you weighing in 👊
I believe it was the 12/18 with 18 gb Ram. I wanted to get it right away and it was the only one available when they first launched in my area. It was nice but ultimately didn't work out for my needs. The Max was the 16/40 with 48gb ram.
FYI The M3 Max has 16/40 cores with 48gb ram and a 1tb hard drive.
The M3 Pro had 12/18 cores with 18gb of ram and a 512 hard drive.
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Thanks for this, did you try to compare the render times for the three of them? Would be cool to know
I did and honestly, the were all so fast it wasn't really worth talking about. They all rendered my 6-8 4k videos in 2-3 minutes. Just super fast you know? Since I don't do massive projects I'm never waiting around.
Unfortunately the M3 Pro was hobbled in this generation, so more potential buyers would do exactly what you did and upgrade to the Max. The M2 Pro had more performance cores and a faster memory bandwidth and made the decision to upgrade to Max harder, so Apple fixed that in the M3 generation. What is a real shame is that both the Pro and Max have too little RAM and storage for the price Apple charges and upgrades of both are insanely priced.
Yeah that's what it sounds like to me too from what I've been researching. I sort of get it from a marketing perspective... Maybe it's easier for people with normal needs to watch the videos and get a real idea of how well they will work. I need to see videos of all these computers doing exactly what I'm doing so I can really see which ones are better than the others... That's what I'm trying to do with my videos anyway. Hopefully it helps some.
Whew, I'd get the M3 Max, it'll come with 36GB of RAM standard, that was an easy decision based on what I saw from what you showed based on you comparing the 2 chips. I edit DCI 4K videos myself on the M1 Pro, it struggles when shooting 60fps. I went down to 24fps for a school project, since there was no need for those high frame rates on that, it was for a presentation my instructor did for extra credit points. At 24fps, no dropped frames, but the regular M1 on the 13" MacBook Pro I had wasn't dropping frames at 24fps either in 4K. When I do fitness videos, it'd be shot in 60fps, want smooth footage for those fast movements I do. I struggled with playing back videos in 4K60 on the M1 Pro. I didn't buy a Panasonic Lumix GH6 to shoot in bitrates and frame rates for enhanced quality, just for a computer to not play it back when editing.
Not sure if you've considered working with Proxies but that is definitely something you might want to consider if you'll be continuing to work on the M1 Pro. It's super easy to do once you get the hang of it.... super easy, AND, makes working on any file such a breeze. Just wanted to throw that out there... otherwise yeah, the M3 Max makes any file like working on a Proxy file... it's nuts.
@@thesahdstudio a technique I used to do was rendering out the timeline if I saw dropped frames all over the place. I use premiere pro. I set the start and end points, then render that out, it takes time to do, but once its been rendered out, the dropped frames stopped and it plays back smoothly. But no one wants to do that though. Including me, it takes too much time to do extra steps. No one is going to drop huge amounts of money on a MacBook Pro with a M1 Pro or whatever chip Apple puts on these MacBook Pros to get performance issues when editing videos and having to do computer tricks to optimize performance. For some people, its what they do to make money, things have to be done fast. People are paying an arm and a leg to get one of these and there's an expectation on what they're expecting out of these MacBook Pros. I switched to using a MacBook Pro exclusively in 2020.
@@thesahdstudio I ended up with the M3 Pro, I bumped up the RAM to 36GB. The bottlenecks I got while working with DCI 4K60 videos were gone that I was getting on M1 Pro. I found out premiere pro was using 18GB of RAM, that system had only 16GB of it. No wonder why it was dropping frames like crazy. Not enough memory and it was using swap. I wasn't doing any kind of crazy effects or color correction. All I do is simple cuts, transitions, and voiceovers. I don't do much layering on videos. You'll want the M3 Max with more RAM for that.
Nice! Yeah that should be enough right? Battery on that thing should be bananas too which is nice. The best part!
@@thesahdstudio since I got the 16" one, it'll be a massive upgrade there, 14" one is ok on that. A lot of places don't allow for people to charge laptops anymore. I'll have no problems doing DCI 4K60 videos and maybe even 5.8K now, I shoot open gate on that for shorts on RUclips.
M3 PRO with 36GB + 1TB HDD is the sweet spot. Awesome performance, battery life, and value. You cannot compare a 512GB / 18GB PRO to a 1TB / 48GB MAX and expect realistic results.
What do you mean I can't compare them and expect realistic results... I didn't know WHAT to expect, that's why I needed to compare them! I've never had a Mac before, and I had no clue which model is capable of what and couldn't find anyone doing tests like this. So how else are we supposed to know which laptop is right for us unless we see real world examples of the programs we actually use? These are the kind of tests I think need to be out there and will always do on my channel.
That's great you found the right model for you. I haven't yet.
Except they use ssd not old and slow hdd.
m3 pro with 36gb ram and 1tb ssd is a 400$ upgrade from 18gb ram 1tb ssd and another 400+ upgrade would be to the base m3 max with more ram so why spend 400$ on a m3 pro to upgrade to the 36gb ram when you can use 400$ and upgrade to a whole level chipset get more ram and more storage?
@@johnnynguyen9449 I was of that mind myself. The extra encoders were a big deal which is why I splurged on the Max. I found the battery life on the Max fantastic but I hear other people saying the less powerful Pro would have better battery since it uses less power. That seemed true in my user experience with both machines but maybe it was just based on the programs I was using. I guess it depends on what you need the computer for. Throwing extra power at simple programs might not be worth $400 for some?
@@johnnynguyen9449 I just did this as I’m a potential buyer and I can confirm that that is how they get you! What you are saying is going to cost 200 more than spending 3199 which is what I want to spend even though it’s a pro but I get 1TB and 36gbs which I will notice more then the benefits of having max in comparison to pro, I edit in 4k but if I need extra horses I can use my behmoth system which has 5900x 3080ti and 64Gbs and several tbs, I only want a laptop 😂
I tested both the m3 pro 36gb of ram and the m3 max with 48gb. I tested a very intensive 13 minute edit in Final Cut with noise reduction, power grades for color and many other layers. The m3 pro handled amazingly. They both rendered exports at equal times. I think I’m going to return the max saving myself the extra cash.
Amazing! What codecs were you working with?
Yeah it wasn't until I really started pushing the layers with a tricky codec did the Max start to pull away... but I don't really edit like that often so, like you said, why spend the extra money for something you don't need?!
@@thesahdstudio so I mostly edit HEVC, MPEG-4 AAC codecs. The noticeable difference I saw when layering multiple clips that had many corrections/ luts and neat video applied was that the m3 max played back slightly smoother. It was still choppy if not rendered but it handled better. I also noticed that less memory was used on the m3 pro and the max was using more memory. I've also noticed in lack in battery life with the max. It burns through faster. I think for my needs which is primarily wedding video edits and commercial work, the M3 pro is more than sufficient. I'd be saving my self close to $1000. I may just use the extra cash and splurge on a mac studio monitor.
Anyhow, your videos are fantastic. Amazing work brother.
@@Domerfly That's awesome you found the right machine man! Like you said, you just saved yourself $1,000! That's HUGE. And ooh baby, that monitor would be JUICY!
Appreciate your support 👊
@@thesahdstudio out of curiosity, which monitor are you using?
@@Domerfly Oh I just recently bought a 32" LG 2k monitor off marketplace for a killer deal. It's nothing special. I wouldn't mind bumping up to a 4k one soon. I've considered the Mac Studio Display but it's a bit past what I can afford at the moment.
Here is to hoping you keep the Max! Good video. I do hope it works out for you.
Aw thanks for saying, I really appreciate it! I hope so too. It's tough being a stay-at-home-dad with a very limited budget and convincing my wife I need it... but between this and my other channel (TheSAHDLife) things are starting to happen so she gets it.
Are you team Apple?
Definitely on team Apple. I have been using it since College. And while I'm very much a Windows user for work. Even there I'm on a Mac Studio. I really don't like the Windows OS, even though it pays the bills.
I started life as a DJ, and when I went to College for Audio Engineering. Everything was running on Mac. So, System 7 was my starting point.
Apple isn't perfect, but I do find that the system gets out of your way more, and you stop worrying about things that you would on a Windows computer. You just get to work. Get the best one you can afford. And you will most likely have it for many years.
Also I really enjoy when people try a Mac when they have been heavy Windows users forever. Many for a very long time just ignored the platform without giving it a fair shot. I don't ever expect folks to give up Windows entirely, it does work and in some cases there are only Windows versions of an application. But, i'm seeing those that do try it, tend to appreciate it and really like the Mac and macOS. The learning curve can be a pain. But, most of it is customizable to get it closer to what yoru used to. It tends to just work with devices (with exceptions to docking stations). And they are shockingly fast at things with these M chips.
keep posting videos, they are enjoyable. @@thesahdstudio
Intersting to see if a Pro in a similar setup like the Max (similar RAM and similar storage ) would behave different than with half the RAM and half the storage.
If you work seriously you work stationary and not on your lap, so speed breakdown when unplugging ist not the issue in reality.
Yes the big advantage is remaining the speed when unplugging and the power efficiency for the apple silicon.
if you work proffesionally on the machines (earning your money with editing videos) price is not the issue its just depreciation, the question ist just economically! A stationary editing video editing machine with GPU in 4090 level (the mobile 4090 is no 4090 not even in the horizon, it just shares the name) with enough Storage and RAM and cores would probably the better solution from economical view..
After all the testing that I've done I found that the max chips have the best encoders and decoders when editing footage straight out of camera. It's really on another level apart from everything else even what Intel and Nvidia has to offer. I think their Studio would probably be among the best for video editing if I had to guess. It's a different story when it comes to VFX though. Too bad you couldn't get an Apple Studio with a 4090! The max was a much smoother experience though on the pro due to the extra encoders so I don't think it would hang with the max even with the same ram etc
Which Mouse do you use for editing?
I use the MX Master 3S. It's great! I reviewed it on my other channel you can watch here: ruclips.net/video/_dijde_WQgg/видео.htmlsi=MYY4onR_R81EPvVu
Great video!!
I am thinking of going for M3 pro with 36gb ram and 512gb of ssd
Sick! That'll be an awesome machine. If you remember you'll have to let me know what you think about it when you get it! Do you have a Mac now?
@thesahdstudio I used to have a windows laptop but honestly I want to get the latest macbook pro with the specs I mentioned earlier because I need it for my workflow and mainly with editing.
I want something accurate for coloring as well..
I feel it's the best out there
What do you think?
@sikaprika4741 ok...honestly, because you said you need it mainly for editing (I'll assuming video editing) you should really consider the Max chip. It has extra video encoders on it which make a huge difference. If you look back at my recent videos you will see I started with the m3 pro but eventually got an older max because I just use it mainly for editing and even the older max is better than a newer pro for that purpose. I know it costs more but any of the Max chips are better but of course the newest one Is the best. If the price is too high off the m3 max perhaps look into the returned Max's on Apple's refurbed page.
thxxx for thiss!!
Thanks for watching 👊 appreciate the comment.
thanks, that was helpful
Glad you found the video 👊
was this all done on the battery alone or plugged in?
On the Macs everything was on battery... pretty sick eh!?
Yo! please do a M3 Max vs A laptop with i9 rtx 4090 comparison video editing workflow. There are no videos on youtube doing this comparison.
Oh man, that's what I want to do... I don't even know what would happen! A 4090 would crush certain things but I wonder how it would compare in the overall editing experience. If I get the chance I will. Thanks for watching 👊
Can you please compare export times between the 3 devices with and without effects 😊
It's funny, export times don't mean anything to me so that's not a test I would ever do. It's all about the video editing experience for me... but I find that the computers which are usually good at that have good rendering speeds too. Any new Apple computer or Windows machine with a decent video card will be good for render speeds, especially if you aren't using effects. If you DONT'T have a gpu on a Windows machine then..... that'll suck lol
how long does the battery last when editing without charger on the m3 max 14 inch? Thanks for this video
I can't say for sure since I had the 16" but it would basically get me through a 5-6 hour session editing 4k 60fps with no proxies etc... it was pretty nuts. I ended up getting gate M1 Max with a brand new battery instead of the M3 with and it's not close as good. Maybe 3.5 hours on the battery? Those new chips are nuts!
What’s the reason the gpu and ram being higher with the same work you are doing ?
You mean why do I need the extra horsepower? Just for the performance. It really makes video editing extra nice. Maybe I'm feeling a little entitled but I rarely spend money on myself... I've been a stay at home dad for 9 years and have been working my butt off on growing my channels (TheSAHDLife is my other) for the last 3, using the wrong computer and being frustrated while editing. May channels are starting to gain momentum and I'd like to have the best tool to help me expand my abilities and creativity. I could get by with the Pro, but the Max really feels exciting and makes me want to use it... and to push it.
@@thesahdstudio Thanks for the reply. In your video it actually show the gpu and ram being at higher usage while you were testing out the same video work on the max. Apart from this, how long do you think the software/system can be updated for the current MacBook Pro. Cause I know some old MacBooks are not able to use the new OS anymore. I would like to use the laptop for around 8-10 years if I’m gonna spend so much.
what is that side mouse extension you used
Hmmm, are you talking about the Logitech Options + app? I can't remember what I showed in the video. It's a great app though and allows me to program the mouse for each app. For example I have the back/forward side buttons on the mouse programmed for undo/redo and it really speeds up my workflow!
@@thesahdstudio sorry meant on the right of the outside of the laptop you had your mouse laying on, on the couch
@@x7judy lol! That is just a cheap laptop desk I got from Amazon. Similar to this: www.amazon.ca/PrimeCables-Cushion-Laptop-Cellphone-lapdesk/dp/B09LM34JGP/ref=sr_1_14?crid=11T9ELAXUMAU7&keywords=laptop+desk&qid=1701795945&sprefix=laptop+des%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-14
It looks like the M3 Pro was simply RAM limited with only 18GB to play with. I wonder how the unbinned 12-CPU 18-GPU with 36GB of RAM would fair.
I know... me too. I wish I had more resources to test this kind of stuff on multiple machines but I'm still a small 'tuber doing it out of pocket!
I just picked up a used M1 Max so will be comparing that one vs the M3 Max shortly.
@@thesahdstudio I feel you! Keep up the great work.
I returned my 14” M3 pro, the $2000 model the other day. Looking to get the 16” M3 pro with either 18 or 36gb ram. Too bad Best Buy doesn’t offer the pro chip with 1tb of storage. Have to do the 512 one.
I think for longevity it might be better to get the 36gb ram model. That way I might not have to worry about memory swap.
I’m also running windows 11 pro with parallels for the gaming. The extra ram should help.
I think the extra ram is the right choice. 1tb would be nice though. @@abdurrahmankhan129
@@thesahdstudioFor what I’m doing, which is practically nothing, it’s a wonder if upgrading to the $3500 max model would be better. Except for trying to get into swift and doing some gaming on windows 11 with parallels, do you think the price jump might be worth it? I’m concerned about the max with the heat and the extra fan noise.
Doesn’t justify the price gap between m3 pro and m3 max
I guess it depends... If you spend all day video editing I think it would absolutely be worth it. But for everything else definitely not.
When it comes to serious video editing, go big or go home. The rich man buys once, the poor man buys twice. Basically if you are not buying the M3 MacBook Pro maxed out for nearly 8k then you are setting yourself up for disappointment
You know, I kinda love your comment. Right now, I REALLY love using the m3 max, but I'm waffling. It's so much money... I've never spent half this amount on a computer before. But when I'm editing I'm happy, it does what I want it to do. If I return it though I can get so much for the cost... I'm not sure what to do yet. But thanks for this message. I really appreciate it.
Buy it nice or buy it twice. The pro will still do everything you want just a little slower. Also I highly suggest to save space and everything by using solely hevc / xavc hs there’s no reason to use si in reality. I’m sure you’ve done a bunch of testing. The easy middle ground should be the m3 pro 16” with 36gb ram spec that’s in stock everywhere as a base spec. The max pumps but it’s soooo much more money it’s not worth it and less battery. When you clean up your workflow to h.265 the hardware does great. For a grand + less
@@frostgodx yeah good call. Lots to think about here so I always appreciate comments like yours. Thanks!
@@thesahdstudioI’m going to be honest at the section of you sitting on the couch you said “my usual video style” and frequently said in your example test that you rarely if ever edit like this so to then choose the max at the end “because it makes more sense” literally doesn’t make sense with the entire rest of the video being the context.
On my other main channel, in those videos I put a lot more effort into effects and things like that. On this channel it's a little bit more me talking at the camera with basic edits. But yeah I'm returning the M3 Max and I have a used M1 Max lined up. It should be enough to cover my bases for the main editing I do, and I'm trying to figure out some workarounds to handle the effects or motion graphics etc for when I want to use that because the max can't even handle it and I don't want to pay that much for basic edits.
I thought you were a way bigger channel. Quality is amazing and you’re great on camera. Thanks!!
Aww thanks for saying. You made my day 👊
I second this! What camera are you using? @@thesahdstudio
@@FrancescaCare My main camera is the Sony Zv-E1 with a G-Master 24mm F1.4 lens... but I just picked up a ZV-E10 to use as a b-cam. Time will tell if I keep that one!
i do video editing, motion graphics, and some 3D design work. i saw that the 16' M3 Max was $450 off at Costco this past weekend (got it for $2,950). i wanted a laptop that i know will last me the next 7 years for heavy duty work. no regrets! thank you for creating this video!
Sick! Yeah it's such an incredible machine you'd really can't go wrong. And specially buying it on sale just feels good. Nice, I'm jelly! 👊
That was hilarious.🤣You think that your videos don't serve pros, but trust me some of your videos have no alternatives on youtube and are very helpful for people like me searching for some details like this. Very well done and hope you get the best out of this machine.🤗
Awesome! I am glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for the comment. I am doing my best to create the kind of videos I would want to see, knowing there are others out there in similar boats. I do my best to offer some type of tests or perspective that isn't usually done or talked about. So your comment really makes the effort put in feel worth doing 👊.
Out of the box the Max froze up when I was updating it... then initially the testing wasn't very different But, once I got it purring, it feels like it's on another level. I still think the battery feels significantly worse using the extra power but in my case it's worth it.
I DO wonder what's right around the corner with the Intel stuff though... Is there any chance you would go in that direction or will you get the new Studio for sure?
@@thesahdstudio I don't think I wanna go to old school x86. Going for the Studio when the M3 Max helps a lot as it's a workstation on my palm that I can transfer everywhere easily especially when I go away from my region. So it's not really 100% a laptop, and I hate them, but also pretty much portable.
Guessing in the future I might get offers outside the country. Who knows, might just get none but I like to be prepared.
As you said, Apple does a great job of making it seem like upgrading is easy and important. It's so hard to sort out what the right move for you is. I think a lot of us get deluded into justifying spending more money when we don't really need it. I suspect many of us could get by with a Pro just fine, even without upgrading beyond 18 GB. Do I really care if it takes me a couple extra minutes to render compared to a Max? Is that really worth an extra $2k on an already expensive machine?
No matter what you choose, you're going to be using a dated model 3-4 years from now. I say don't spend the money unless you are prevented from doing something otherwise.
I landed on the 16" M3 Pro. All I upgraded was the storage to 1 TB as I have 200 GB worth of sound libraries and I wanted some breathing room. It was tough to talk myself down from doubling the memory. I used many "future proofing" arguments on myself. But I'm glad now that I didn't do it. This machine is doing everything I need it for with ease.
That's awesome... the Pro is fantastic. I ultimately caved in to the thought of 'More ram!' and 'More cores!' but did notice an improvement based on my usage. But I agree with you and I don't think most people would even notice the boost of ram and cores in their daily usage.
Can't wait to keep using it and seeing what it can do!
Thank you this helped me
Just got the M3 Max- 48GB - 40-core GPU - 1TB SSD for $1000 off at Best Buy. I can’t wait for it to be delivered.
The MONSTER! Wow that's an exciting purchase.... I'm jelly 👊
Alright, you've convinced me. Getting the M3 max 128gb ram 8 TB
Awwwww yeah!! You going for the yolo FULL load eh?! Dam!! Jealous. What a beast of a machine. Wild! Let us know what you think.
Do you mind if I ask why you need that much storage? Would it be worth considering external storage for the stuff you don't need as much? I mean it would be great of course if you can afford it, but if it's not necessary you might be able to get the 1-2tb and plug in an external for when you need it. Enjoy!
I just bought one too. Waiting for it to arrive. Bitting my nails, watching videos asking myself if I made a mistake. Your Video helped me out! I’m a subscriber now 🎉😊-thanks!
Haha that's exciting! You'l have to let me know what you think once you've had a chance to use it. Best laptop I've ever used no question!@@lucianoaldanaii4664
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Man that’s gonna hurt when the M4 Max is released.
This was sooo helpful!!! Thank you so much for making this video and for your input 🙏.
Glad you found the video! Thanks for the comment 👊
I’m actually willing to trade in both of my M2 MacBook Air 15 inch and my old 2017 MacBook Pro intel to get $900 trade in credit for the BASE M3 Max model with no configurations, since I graduated from college for my AA degree in Studio Arts Graphic Design Major, and if anyone has used the Max version, what has been your experience??
I can't speak on anything other than using it for video editing but it sure was fantastic for that and I don't think you would regret it. With that being said the M3's came out last Oct/Nov, so the M4's are right around the corner. I mean there will ALWAYS be new computers right around the corner, and the good news is all the Silicon Max chips are SO good... I mean heck, I ended up returning both the M3's to buy the M1 Max and don't regret that choice. Hope that helps.
Pro 36Gb ram and 1TB my choice , easy a pc for 5 years I don’t think we’ll go 8k videos on youtube
Yeah that's a nice setup. I find the extra video encoders from the Max lineup noticeable while video editing in Resolve so for me it was worth it. But for most and those who edit in Final Cut the Pro should be more than enough. That battery life too right? Sick.
video editing is one thing.
Develpoment is where the m3's not only shine, but the m3max beats a 13900K desktop.
I had many windows laptops, they all suck. The fan noise, the battery life..and at this point the m3max doesnt even have a laptop competitor CPU wise. The ram is also way faster.
For sure. Switching to a Mac has been something I've considered for a long time and at this very moment the gap seems quite large between them (like you said talking about noise, heat, battery, performance). Now, it sounds like Intel might drop something somewhat impressive in the new year but... it doesn't sound like it will all of the sudden be ahead of Apple or anything.
I'm happy with this purchase so far!
@@thesahdstudio the limitation is x86 ISA itself. It is simply impossible to make the chip so much more efficient to compensate the ISA. Time for intel and amd to switch to ARM. As long as many ignorant people fooled by mainstream commercial benchmarks buy this x86 garbage they will keep pushing it to the market.
Uhh the speed for magic mask is low with both compared to a RTX4080 with up to 50 fps 😮. Thought the m3max is faster.
Right? To be fair I ended up getting a 4080 and it was slower than I expected at first UNTIL I switched the footage from h.265 to h.264 where it really picked up and delivered the speeds I was hoping. Thinking back to when I created THIS footage I don't believe I tested out h.265 vs h.264 and might have been using the harder footage as well. Either way the MacBook Pro's are just fantastic when it comes to editing videos. I'm still so impressed.
Ok that can make a difference.
I believe it depends a lot on what video editor you are gonna use aswell. Some might be more optimized than others or will be after an update. This makes choosing the perfect MacBook even harder.
I’m in the same Windows boat. Coming from MS-DOS to 3.11, … but lately, since returning to iPhone, been thinking more of trying macOS. Would be a more desktop choice between macmini or studio for me, since i don’t really need to be portable and work/play around from home.
I agree with you. It'll be interesting to see how things progress. These are both awesome for editing in Resolve though I can say that with certainty.
So you went with the iPhone first eh? Any regrets there? I'm still rocking the Android phone which makes it feel like I am not fully enveloped into the Apple ecosystem and benefiting from that.
Got a m3 max 48/1tb 16/40/16 , the most strenuous app i regularly use is numbers ... i think i'll be ok for awhile
Hehe yeah that might be a little bit overkill! But you are set for years! Loved that M3 Max.
Keep the Max. When it's time to get down to business for your workflow, the Max pulls ahead comfortably and productively.
It's really seeming like I will keep the Max.... it's great. I don't think I'll regret it though I will forever have a hard time believing I paid that much for a laptop lol.
What computer are you rocking?
M3 pro Max unbind 48gb here! For bullet proof a couple of years…
Oh baby! Yeah that's a sick laptop. Yeah it'll be dope for YEARS.
Any experience with the 14-30 core Max? Have the m3 pro now with 36gb 1TB but seen a refurbished Max with the 14-30…
I don't personally. But I'm assuming since the max chip has the double video encoders I would say it would be a huge upgrade over any Pro. I would get the Max in a heartbeat since I do a lot of video editing.
what would you prefer a m2 max or a mbp m3 pro
Because I use it for video editing and I want a great experience with that I would take the Max right away. The Pro is still great though. They are both incredible but the Max with the extra media engines is way better for editing and is still great for daily usage. Hope that helps!
I think it looks like you were working on proxy footage for the most of it, I might be wrong but I can see the proxy indicator activated. But really appreciate the effort you put in to make our life's a little bit easer to make a decision. Much Love my friend!
I had the setting 'Use proxies IF available'' ticked which is why you can see that indicator, but I can assure you I did not have any proxies being used during this video. Those computers are just THAT fast!
I passed for my RUclips channel from a MacBook M1 Pro to a M3 Max… you decided to do the best thing. The difference is that I still did not hear any ventilation on my MacBook and I live in the hot Sardinia. Hope it will always be like that. This said I subscribed to your channel because it is always good to help each other and fellow RUclipsrs 😊
Yeah going from the Pro to the Max in any version of the chip is a big difference when it comes to video editing, so that's great you were able to up your game. The m3 max is awesome! How exciting 👊 And thanks for the support!
Edit: It looks like you talk about MMA on your channel. Nice! I love MMA also. Too bad I can't understand you 🤣
Ehehhe I Speak about traditional martial arts (specifically the Japanese ones) and about Japanese and Korean History ^_^. This said.. it is always awesome to find people like you and been able to subscribe to your channel. Why? In the future when you will become like Max Tech.. I can say that I was one of the first ones eheh
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@@KankukanAiki What a great comment to start my day with! Thank you for the kind words. I'm going through a dip right now with my RUclips efforts and your comment is a big boost. I really appreciate it.
All the best with your efforts also 👊
@@thesahdstudio I understand what you are saying ! I have often the same dip with my own channel.. I dream to speak of tech but my audience love what I do..so my fantasy runs but I am stuck with what I started with. Please do not surrender. You have already a great channel and I really do think that someday in the near future I will be writing to a new Max Tech level channel!
That's nuts you paid that for the base pro, pro lol. I just got that model for $1799 same 18gb of ram and 512gb drive. I would never want to live in Canada where everything costs so much more.
Yeah man launch prices were Not cheap! I think the prices scale compared to the wages etc are here but yeah... They ain't cheap!! That's sweet that you got it though very exciting 👊 how do you like it?
hi
i need a suggestion
I am programmer and photographer as hobby. now as a interest in photography and videography i am looking to buy mac to edit photo and videos but i am wondering which one to buy as i will probably keep it for another 4-5 years for sure. I normally record video in gopro hero 11 in 4k 60fps and currently wondering to buy macbook pro m3 pro 18gb 1tb here in finland. do you think its a good investment regarding those 4-5 years in hand or should choose its MAX version.
Ok, so I haven't really edited with that Video Codec but either way, I think any of the MacBooks would be enough. The only suggestion I would have is that you opt for at least 32gb of ram. I am personally considering downgrading from the M3 Max to the M1 Max. But again, the codec you record in makes the biggest difference at all. If that codec is easy to edit OR you quickly convert it to, say, prores, it will make your editing experience so much smoother regardless of what computer you have. Have you considered refurbished ones from Apple?
Hi great video. My 2019 Intel based 15 inch MacBook Pro crapped out, so I had to upgrade. I ended up upgrading to the M3 Pro 16 inch MacBook Pro and I love it! The configuration I got was the 512GB SSD and 36GB Unified Memory. I went with this since 1TB and higher external SSD drives are coming down in price, so I save my videos and photos on the external to keep the 512GB SSD clean.
Oh nice setup! I bet that feels like a big upgrade going to the silicon chips. They sure crushed it out of the park with those! I'm jelly 👊
Awesome comparison for someone cross shopping these chips! Love the real world tests, much preferred IMO to synthetic benchmarks.
Thanks for the comment! I appreciate you saying 👊
This is probably the best comparison video I have seen! Are the rumors of the M4 chip true? Dropping later this year? Or is it looking like an 18mo cycle?
Glad you found the video! I'm not sure. I can't imagine they would change the cycle... I guess it depends on the production of the 2nm chips. I know at this point when I get comments asking me if they should buy the M3 I'm like well just wait 6 months... Get the m4 lol. It's always a waiting game... Sometimes you just have to pick one and stick with the decision.
Great video comparing the M3 Pro and M3 Max MacBooks!
The performance differences are fascinating.
I'm a new sub.
Thanks for the comment and welcome to the channel! I sure am a fan of the Max chips for video editing. But the newest ones still aren't cheap. Not sure if you saw the fallout videos but I ended up returning the new ones and buying a used M1 Max which I've been very happy with.
Are we going to totally ignore the amazing dance moves?
Hahah my man! 👊
Nice dance moves!! 💃
Haha thanks my man 👊
Ortalama bir fotoğraf ve video edit yapan biri için m3 pro 18gb yeterli..Daha fazla para harcamaya hiç gerek yok..Windows dan artık nefret ediyorum...
For sure. I mean I think for most people, the Air might be an even better choice. The MacBook Pro is a pretty serious computer that might be overkill more most. It's hard finding that sweet spot though... it took me awhile.
I picked up a 14in m3 pro 18gb 512gb and love it so far. I have more powerful machines if i wanna do work. I just wanted a good sceen, battery life and the speakers are great. I might do light video editing on it, but it's more of a daily driver web surfing machine. I picked up a 13900hx 4080 laptop not long ago, and it's very fast, but the battery life is crap. As far as desktops, i have a 7950x3d 4090, 7800X3d 7900xtx, 12700k 3080ti. I never sell anything. i might be a pc hardware hoarder. This is my first mac I've been a pc guy for a long time and i would never only use a mac i like gaming too much but i can see the appeal of a mac and the apple ecosystem. It works great with my 15 pro max and airpod2 pro's. I find the 14in to be the perfect size for viewing and portability and love the new black color.
I love comments like this... They are both good in their own ways right? For video editing nothing is going to compete when it comes to graphics and adding effects like a video card... But as far as battery life and portability goes and power on the run.. Apple is on another level. They're like when Volkswagen was cheating and nobody could touch them, that's how far ahead they feel.
My friend you should sell some of your old hardware! Haha. Get some money back while you can and help someone save a few bucks. Heck I'll buy one off you! I've been adding more effects my new videos and that's still a bit of a struggle with the M3 Max but everything else is great.
@@thesahdstudio this is great! the same conclusion i got to. i got the base m3 max mbp 16 inch with 14/30 and 36gb ram after I tested the base M3 14 inch with only 8gb ram. it's light and day difference. But still my PC desktop Ryzen 9 5950x 128gb Ram and rtx 3090ti with 24 gb RAM crunches faster at many tasks than the M3 Max, especially in the Adobe Creative Suite. Denoise is faster on the PC than on the Max. I could have gotten the 16/40 Max 48tb Ram but it just was not worth it for me since i've seen reviews that that model is less power efficient and sometimes throttles due to more cores. Apple is still king in efficiency versus performance, but not in price/performance. So the PC with a great GPU is sometimes better for some tasks, while the Max is better with apps optimised for it such as FinalCutPro.
Nice! Yeah I didn't know enough about the cpu/gpus on the Max, so since I was upgrading from the Pro I wanted to push it and see what the big one was capable of you know? @@octny
Hey, hope you can help me. I'm considering buying a 16-inch MacBook Pro with the M3 Max chip, 40-core GPU,
16-core CPU, 48GB RAM, and 1TB SSD for €3100 (in Europe). While I don't necessarily need such powerful specs, I plan to use it for vms, occasional gaming (like CS:GO), and typical work/school tasks.
I think the M3 or M3 Pro would be sufficient, i only consider this M3 max because of the good deal i can get. My main concern is the battery life with this configuration. i want to ensure it offers good battery life.
The Max has outstanding battery life. You don't need to worry about that. I'm not sure what VMS is... And it's not going to be amazing for gaming. Are you sure Counter-Strike works on Apple? I feel like I tried to install it on mine and it didn't work... I could be wrong.
There's some pretty gnarly Windows Snapdragon lappies coming out pretty soon that might be a lot cheaper. Are you pretty tied to the Apple ecosystem?
7:31 All the delusions of windows fanboys destroyed in 3 seconds
Haha right? That was when I really started to safeguard Apple Silicon chips.
So the m3 max was like $150 more than a similar spec’d m3 pro. So I went big. Coming from m1pro MacBook pro
The extra video encoders on the Max is worth it in my opinion. It depends on what you're doing of course but for how I use it, no regrets!
Well M3 has faster single core. It is normal. However Max has just more power overall.
Both great machines! There are reasons why they are different... it's just tough for people to figure out exactly where they fit into the lineup. The Max really is overkill unless you have a specific program you know you need it for. For me, the extra video encoders make it absolutely worth it, but if it weren't for that, I'd be more than happy with the Pro.
If you click on the window option in the menu bar for activity monitor you can get the GPU and CPU monitors that will show you exactly how much of each you are using. They are really handy and give you a nice graph to see how much you are using total and for each core! Cheers Great video comparison
Thanks for the tip! I was watching Tech Notice talk about how Mac utilizes ram and it was a bit confusing... Meaning that just because they are being used doesn't necessarily mean they are full. I'll have to do more testing out for myself though. 👊
So which one you ended up keeping? ))
So it's months later and while I ended up buying the M1 Max Pro which was great and good value. I sold it and built a Windows machine so that I could have a nice beautiful Monitor and do a little bit of gaming. What do you need the computer for?
@@thesahdstudio videos, photography, animation/motion design, graphic design. I think After Effects is my main concern. It costs so much, but will it add so much if I get max vs pro. grr... I know building my own PC would be best in terms of performance-cost ratio, but I really need an on-the-go machine at this point in life.
Many testing sites and youtubers are saying that the M3 Max has better battery life than the M3 Pro, but in your experience, it is the opposite. Do you know what might be causing this?
Most likely high power mode? lol. Well I had the Pro for a week or so of daily usage, and it was great... the first day I got the Max I was pushing it to the limits. Now that I've had it for a few days and am using it for daily usage it's great too. Really solid! I would probably trust them over me as I'm not testing them directly, it was more anecdotally... I think because it has more power I was more curious about testing it with gaming and editing etc so it made my usage change... but now that I'm keeping it in lower power mode, as well as adjusting the brightness throughout the day this battery seems fantastic!
I don't think so, where are those test? M3 Pro should last longer on battery.
bro.
choose Macbook pro
M3 pro 14 inch ( 1 TB SSD)
but i confusing which specs enough for graphic designs and 4k video editing works ???
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11 core CPU, 14 core GPU ( m3 pro)
36gb ram
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12 core CPU, 18 core GPU (m3 pro)
RAM : 36 GB
You're just responded to your other message hopefully you got it! What's the price difference? Can you afford the better specs? You could always do what I did and just buy an older M1 or M2 and save a few bucks.
Excellent work! I can totally relate to your talking points from 12:30-14:00 nailed it. Thank you for this vid. Felt very natural and down to earth. -Marc
Thanks for the comment! And I'm glad you found the video. It was a pretty crazy experiment for me to switch over my computers and dive head first into the Apple world. I learned a lot and I'm glad others are resonating with the videos. Are you rocking a MacBook or thinking about getting one?
@@thesahdstudio I’m looking to get my first one at the moment. Long time iPhone/ipad user. Been editing on my iPad for a little over 2 years now. I’ve outgrown it but am experiencing a bit of paralysis by analysis on which one to buy….i almost wish there were fewer MacBook options for dummies like me. Your video helped quite a bit tho. I really appreciate the real-world demos you shared because the benchmark stuff doesn’t do much for me. I just wanna open an editor to cut and scrub on a timeline w/ no lag 😁
@@fishing4dinner Get yourself a Max chip my friend. I'll make the decision easy for you. The 16" ones have the best cooling, so if you can afford one, even a M1 Max, get the Max chip. Buttery video editing out of camera.
Haha hopefully that doesn't make things harder for you ;)
I think pro is good for entry level to medium level of editing. It's fast it handles most footage good and Studdards when you drop effects and stuff as you saw but if you aren't doing big projects you should be ok and it should get you through. I don't think pro couldn't handle the heavy work load I just think at the professional level every sec counts everything when it comes to studdaring and butter movements matter. Like if you editing a large project like a wedding you want the m3 max because you want to move seamlessly through apps you want the playback to run back smooth with effects titles stuff like that. If you doing heavy work loads like that I feel after watching this video you need the max. If you aren't doing big projects every week and just need a powerful machine pro with more ram and ssd you should be good. But if you are a professional you might just want to spend the extra money. Every sec counts you want a machine that can move seamlessly through big files render quick and doesn't Studdar on the timeline max matters.
Exactly. That's pretty much how I feel. The Pro is dam awesome until you really push it. Most people won't push it and for them it will be dam awesome!
really loving the content glad you are enjoying both machines and seeing the difference I think after watching a lot of videos people need to realize once you go professional its expensive for that standard on machines. the pro being 2500 its already expensive with the max its that 3k range you spending some real money to dedicate towards the craft. @@thesahdstudio
In My experience Even the Max is limited for a real professional workflow, and it is because when production scale up You need something that can connect to a fast server to edit, and the dongles and adapters available for M1,2 and 3 are just unreliable and tend to disconnect.
For example I'm now editing a show that is eating 96TB of space and I just cant use my MBP to edit since I don't want to spend $300 every three months on dongles that end up in the trash can.
So I would keep the most affordable laptop and get a Mac Studio, you'll have Best of both worlds and still have another thousand bucks for a good monitor or a Big hardrive.
@@sergiosanchez2012 Yeah that's interesting. And 96tb DAMM!
@@thesahdstudio yes, projects tend to get bigger as you go deeper into the postproduction rabbit hole.
Enjoying watching your adventure. You are right about Apple not making it easy. I had a 16” M1 Max but I really should have bought the 14”. Sales rep day job and hobby photographer and drone pilot on the weekend. Needed compact with some power. Landed on the 14/18/18/1 TB M3 Pro 14” and couldn’t be happier. Paired with my 11” iPad Pro it’s the perfect mobile office and handles my hobbies needs to. Looks like that Max is the ticket for you. The MBP is the big spend. you can add the other peripherals (iPhone,iPad) later. Cheers!
Did you find the 16" was just too heavy and cumbersome? I am a big screen guy so am always curious that people like/enjoy/prefer the smaller screen. With that being said I feel like these Apple screens are a little taller which make them feel better than their Windows counterparts.
Thanks for watching and chiming in! I'm excited to add the rest of the stuff sooner rather than later but not sure I'll be able to make that happen lol.
@@thesahdstudio Yeah, for me it was just to cumbersome. I'm in and out of customers stores all day and spend a lot of time working out of my truck. I was using a 12.9" iPad for my job and just go tired of fighting iPadOS. iPadOS has come a long way (I had the original) and I still have a spot for the iPad in my life, but iPadOS doesn't compare to MacOS for getting work done. I'll always fondly remember the 16", but it just sat on my desk. The 14" is my Mama Bear. It's hooked up to a Samsung 43" and a 24.5" LG Ultra Fine at home and the screen is big enough for the day job. I can even tether the 11" iPad Pro in the field if I want a 2 display solution. Looking forward to your next installment! 😀 Welcome to the world of Mac (made the same move in '09)! Enjoy the rest of your Sunday!
@@jimtipton8888 That's interesting, thanks for sharing. Now I just have to return all the stuff I'm not going to keep 😂 (iPad Air and m3 Pro - fyi I bought a used iPad 10th gen with a pencil for half the price of the air. The air was better but... value). Almost done and back to "new" normal for me. Can't wait for the dust to settle and get comfortable with all this stuff.
Appreciate the support 👊
@@thesahdstudio 👊
the 14 is junk...how can you be this much ignorant?? Unless you get the Mx Pro version dont buy a 14. All these weak people complaining about half a kilo weight difference be🤡🤡
I dont understand... If the m3 pro does not use much the fans it handles better the task? Or is is healthy on the m3 max if its going loud and its good for the laptop just not for the ear?
It doesn't handle the task as well. The fans will come on when it's rendering for example... And it will go way faster with the max then the pro. The pro still does a really good job but you just have little split seconds that you'll be waiting around for. But it still handles 4K video editing pretty easy in the right codecs.
For most people I think the pro is the way to go... But if you want to get better at video editing in 4k and have multiple stacked videos the max is the way to go for sure
great video im buying a new Mac I have a 2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5 so looks like the max is where I go. I leaning VFX
I think you're going to love it. The Max chips are just fantastic. I just built a new Intel computer and the M1 Max still hangs with it NO problem.
Hi, have you tried editing on the M3 Pro using the XAVC H.265 video codec without using proxies? Thank you.
I have not since on the Zv-e1 shooting in this format is limited to 24/60 fps, whereas I prefer shooting in 30 fps. Maybe I'll try it for science. If I do I'll let you know what happens!
@@thesahdstudio they said that H.265 is much more taxing on the computer compared to the H.264 video codec. I’m looking forward to see that video.
@@louinekay Not sure if you caught the recent video I did talking about codecs but it's funny, I've actually gone in the exact opposite direction for this reason. I don't care about size of the files I just want the buttery editing experience so I'm filming in the most uncompressed codec possible on my camera lol. But yeah I'll try it out soon!
What I would like to know is how the battery life performs on the M3 max vs M3 pro. Does the extra performance decrease the overall battery life?
In the short time I had both I felt like the Pro battery lasted longer for daily use. BUT, with that being said I was pushing the Max harder so it's tough to say for sure. They both are incredible batteries and I wouldn't let that be the point to get one over the other. It's more about whether or not you need the extra encoders etc that make the Max better for more hardcore usage. And if you don't need it, then don't get it.
For me, I just use my M3 Pro for email, web browsing and journaling. Still wondering if I should upgrade to the Max, but don't know why? Future proofing maybe?
Honestly, you definitely do not need it... the ONLY reason I would say get it is if you know you'd be doing complicated video editing in the near future. The M3 Pro is still good enough for that... you could grow a MASSIVE RUclips channel on the Pro it's that good. The M3 Pro alone is probably overkill for you lol. If I were you (and in the window of returning the M3 Pro), I would consider the M3 Air which I think will very likely come out in the next month or so. But even still, the extra horsepower of the Pro might be nice if you don't mind the size.
So if i would like to buy a macbook pro for final cut and editing 4k videos to then upload for education etc, which chip is better mate? Is it the pro or the max that i should go for? Have never used a Mac before
Honesty the Max makes video editing an amazing experience. The Pro is solid too but if you can afford the extra bucks, get the Max... any version of the chip. I had the M3 Max which was fantastic but I ended up buying the M1 Max... a few months have passed so you could probably get a good deal on a used M2 Max. Make sure you get at least 32/36gb ram and 1tb if possible. You'll love it! The battery is nuts.
Man… for 3d texturing in substance painter and Mari… some 3d rendering and 3d sculpting… m3 pro or m3 max?? 🤦🏻♂️
My dude I wish I could help you with this answer but I have 0 experience with those apps/uses :(
Please help me, I am confused between Legion 9i and M3 Pro Max 36 GB 1TB varaint. I have no problem regarding the price, and both the OS are ok for me.
I use a few VM for ethical hacking apart from these I program and also do video edits.
Please recommend which one will be worth.
I think the M3 Pro Max with 48 gigs of RAM 16/40 is the way to go. The performance on battery is just so unbelievable for that reason alone I just love it and wouldn't go to a Windows PC. If you don't mind your computer getting loud and hot then yeah you could probably get better value from the windows stuff though. The performance and the graphics card would be nice for effects but for overall editing the Mac is sick and I would recommend that. Please keep in mind though I am no Pro I'm just a regular consumer trying this stuff out for myself.
It’s always crazy that any reviewers show laptops speed from tests but not from real use and always with the windows laptops connected to the power. But laptops are made to be run in battery and Mac’s always are consistent.
Yeah Macs battery aren't even a fair fight... Well at least they haven't been. There's some new stuff coming out soon with Snapdragon that looks pretty interesting.
i tried both m3 pro and m3 max. I kept m3 pro. didnt see much difference for my normal work
Yeah nice! Save the money if you can. The extra video encoders on the Max chips are huge for me. But if you don't need them then who cares! The M3 pro is sick!!
You get a like for the dancing alone 😁
And a sub for the great content 👌
Hahaha awww yeah 👊 Thanks man welcome aboard :)
I think the problem might be Davinci Resolves is not using the Neural Engine in apple silicon. I can tell through the monitor on my M1 Max 16". It's not using it even with the "Use Neural Engine if possible" button is on.
Interesting. I don't know enough about the use of the Neural Engine yet... looks like I have my night planned lol.
If you were trying that with Premier they would have all crashed!! lol😂😅
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Hell yeah. Thats the kind of review I was looking for. I'm coughing at the pricetag in my cart right now, and I needed to know what these are like as daily drivers. Great job - Subscribed
Awesome, glad you found the video!! I mean they are INSANE as daily drivers. Probably overkill. I'd get the Air for that UNLESS I needed more of a workhorse, in which case the MacBooks are incredible. I'd only get the Max if you need the extra video encoders. It was a big difference while video editing and quite a bit noticeable while gaming.
Which one you thinking of getting?!
@@thesahdstudio I edit videos for my channel and social media. My current MacBook is from 2016 and DaVinci just eyerolls at me when I load a clip so it’s time to update. I went with the Max. All of the reviews I saw before yours were statistic-based. I wanted to see, and you nailed it, what’s it like in real life normal use side by side. Great edit👏
@@BigBikeBMX Same thing here. This review / test is amazing.
This was a great video and helped me heaps! Very Professional, Thankyou!
Glad you found the video! Thanks for watching 👊
Have you gone through your Windows power settings and set the “on battery” to custom and full speed?
Oh yeah... I've tried to drain the power as fast as possible for maximum performance. I think the battery health has gotten a lot worse over the years. Even still, when it was plugged in it locked up once it got hot.
Would love to try a newer Windows laptop though in this kind of side by side testing.
Also keep in mind software will have updates to take advantage of the m3 chips soon….
Yeah good reminder! Can't wait to keep using this thing.
This absolutely is NOT a thing what are you evren talking about?? There is no change this isnt intel to apple silicon its just a new generation software is already set.
@@frostgodx hehe. I know on my Windows/Desktop, the Nvidia Experience app was always updating itself for newer software / newer hardware etc... I assume they commenter was just saying if there's tweaks companies can make to their software/games etc to make them run smoother on the M3 chips that might happen in the near future. But hey, it sounds like you might actually know what you're talking about where I certainly do not!
When the fans would kick in on the Max, did it sound low or did it sound like the fans were really going?
Compared to my Windows laptop with the graphics card the fans on the Max sounded like they were barely spinning. And since pushing it a couple days ago I have yet to hear the fans again even though I've done less intensive video editing while playing Hearthstone at the same time.
I believe the M3 PRO is good enough for most of us and the M3 MAX for pro video editor
Yeah I think the pro is good enough to for sure. I mean I'm not a professional RUclipsr but I definitely enjoy having the extra power of the max chip for my workflow... And I'm a little older so I don't mind paying a few hundred extra bucks for it. Could I still grow my Channel with the M3 pro? Definitely
Really helpfull, thanx for saving me money!
Glad you found the video and LOVE helping people save that money 👊
On the ram, since more ram is available on the max applications just gobble up and earmark ram; Doesn't mean its actually being used.
Yeah for sure. I'm still learning what it all means myself so figured I would share it for people who actually know in case they're interested in the results.
I’m in the same boat brother, great content. Tired of benchmarks, rather see how it drives. I got a m3 pro 16 and torn on if I need to upgrade to either the 36 gb or jump to the max.
@@veelack Yeah I hear that man. What are you using it for mostly?
GREAT. Now the question comes from your previous vid. when you showed the problem of the mackbook pro not able to color grade smoothly...did the max have the same issue?
Ok, so, the Pro could color grade just fine. That's no problem. The problem it had was it was quite slow when applying magic masks, adding 3d fx, and stacking timelines. The Max can do all of those things much better. The editing is buttery smooth although to be fair, adding 3d fx aren't amazing... but that's where computers with dedicated video cards pull ahead.
Really happy with the Max still, though I ended up getting the M1 Max!
@@thesahdstudio thanks again
just bought an m3 max with 96gb ram … shy of $4k … the deal was too good to pass. i ll change it in 3y … if i can resell it for 1000.. then it means $3 per day to ‘rent’ a super machine for 3y… … bargain!
Yeah wow what a beast! How do you like it so far? What did you upgrade from?
@@thesahdstudio lol …. … here it goes: saturday i picked a silver 36g/m3 max at apple store… tested it yesterday, but last night saw the online deal for the 96gb at just 100 more than the 36gb at apple. bought it at 2345 (non-apple deal, until 03/17 only) and email said i can pick it up in 2 days. will return the 36gb to apple when i get the 96gb. testing the 36gb yesterday using safari (~50 tabs open) + docker + vscode + xcode, it sometimes started to swap (docker alone was at times claiming 15gb).
before i tried the air m3/16gb/1T for 1 week+1d (have been using a loaner air m2/16gb since january). it was a dream machine, except for the heavy swapping (never tried docker on it)… was Really bummed as I was testing it at 16gb (store pickup) before i was going to order online a 24gb/1T to wait until m4 pro and only then commit to a “bigger”-but-midrange machine.
my last machine was an m1 pro 32g from work for 2 years. as new job only gives me a heavy 32gb lenovo with a nvidia 4060, I wanted a base m3 to have access to hw ray tracing, with view to replace my own mini 2018+egpu (has 64gb ram and still does better at 3d rendering than all the m2 gpus) with a m3 studio max/ultra when it comes out in june while using the m3 air laptop for just 1y… that plan died with the really heavy swapping, even for just 1 year.
so the plan is all changed and I think i will keep the max/96gb in parallel with an itx pc with 7900xt (bought the card for below msrp and will get a 16core/32th AMD mobile cpu with 64 or 128gb) until i do get a studio max/ultra, i guess m5, to be all apple again…. … …. but I have 2 weeks to decide that.
Proceed to show everybody how the Max is miles ahead of the pro and not even remotely laggy. Then says there is no reason to get the max over the pro.... really? lol. You basically just convinced a lot of people that the Max is way better. hah
Well Most people don't do video editing. The double video encoders on the max is a no brainer for video editing... But if you don't need them it's not worth the extra $$$
You can always edit with proxies
Ofcourse the video is amazing but i have watched it and showed to others just because of the dance!! ❤❤
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I'm still using the final version of the intel mac and looking to upgrade. Is the m3 max worth the upgrade over the m2 max in your opinion? Or should I just got for the M3 pro? Thanks in advance for your advice
What will you be using the machine for exactly? I definitely don't think it's worth getting the Max unless you need it. The Pro is still fantastic. But since I do video editing and want the very best experience the extra video encoders on the max chip are noticeable for me.
Nice review thanks. However I would like to see a MacBook Pro M2 vs M3 Pro. I'm thinking that the memory bandwidth of 200 GB/s on the M3 chip would be slower than the M2 chip which has 400 GB/s. We can add cores and RAM, but if the pipe line isn't big enough, well, there would be a pipe jam, I think. I'm no computer engineer, but I do love physics. There is something here I need to learn or Apple is pulling the wool over our eyes. What do you think? Love you vids, keep shooting.
Thanks for the comment! It's a tough call. I'm still learning about this stuff as I go as well. I think apple is really trying to keep separation between the models... They don't really want the one computer to rule them all in the mid-tier price point. But with that being said I think for most people's workloads the smaller bandwidth is more than enough. I really wish I had more access to computers so I could run the tests myself because I have to buy this stuff with my own money and being a stay-at-home dad I don't have the biggest budget!
@@thesahdstudio Yeah, I hear you. My first Mac was a G3 which I specifically bought for video editing when mini DV cameras first came out. I've upgraded every 4-5 years or so. Each upgrade had good points, but there were always some bad moves by Apple for each updated computer that left me scratching my head. The reason I haven't moved back to Windows (which at the time was 2000 pro I think) is the OS. I just love Apple's OS. It's the hook inside the worm that gets me every time. I'm looking to upgrade again, so I really appreciate your review. Thanks for your reply.
Nice you went straight to 16/40 heh, awesome machine. I went for the 14/30 which doesn’t heat up as much on a 14”. Congrats!! - question when you wipe the display with a micro fibre, does it feel like it’s flexing a bit or does it feel solid? Mine flexes a bit almost like the screen isn’t glued down hmm. Going to check in the store if that’s normal.
Also, have you tried Final Cut?
lol right? I figured if I was spending that amount of money I may as well just go for it. My other channel has been growing nicely so this will give me the tools I need to be efficient for growing both channels.
I just wiped the screen to test it out and honestly it feels solid. Yeah maybe just bring a cloth to the store and start wiping down the displays to compare 😂
Nothing like spending that kind of money to realize or think you might have one that's not perfect eh?
You happy with yours? Anything you aren't digging?
How is it almost $5,299 pre-tax?? On the apple website the m3 max 1TB of SSD and 48GB RAM is $3,999.
Canadian prices!
After I commented I was thinking maybe you're from Canada. Damn!!! @@thesahdstudio
I am planning to get the 64 RAM and 2 TB with Final Cut Pro and it's still cheaper than that!
@@WesShoots Hehe. Yeah that's a sick setup man. Should last you a long time! I'm tempted to try out FCP myself.
How will you be getting the m1 max? Would u get a refurb one from apple? Thank you
I bought it from a seller on Marketplace. Actually he sold me a camera lens months ago, then when I saw he was selling the laptop we actually became friends through messaging. I have a lot of great experiences buying things used, but this seller in particular went out of his way to make sure the laptop was in the best condition possible for when I got it (thanks to AppleCare). I think having AppleCare made me a lot more comfortable with the purchase. I considered Refurbed but this seemed a better deal.
M3 overheating compared to a m3 pro makes it harder to decide 🤦🏻♂️
Naw the M3's don't really overheat. The only time I noticed the fans continually was when I was playing a game that wasn't optimized for the chips. I wouldn't even worry about that one bit.
3:46 Awesome! 🤣Always thanks for your support, Evan!
Haha thank you! If you look closely each outfit I'm dancing in has a different piece of Fioboc clothing ;) My favourite clothes!
Hello!! Long time no see! Great video!!
Do u remeber me?
Hey thanks! Yes the name looks familiar but I cannot remember what we talked about. How's it going?!!
Hi! Can you try Surface Laptop Studio 2 compared to the Macs. :D
Oh man that would be SO fun! I wish I had access to one. Sadly I'm not quite at that level yet. Hopefully one day!
you can play all windows games in sonoma with the game porting toolkit .... i own a M3 max 40 Gpu cores 16 inch and gaming is great , so is Emulation too.
Do your fans kick in and does your Max get hot while gaming? I'd love to get a few more games working on here. Path of Exile works decent but it's not great. I might try Diablo 4 just to see how it runs but sadly I don't even want to play more Diablo 4 :( You playing anything fun?
@@thesahdstudio i'm mostly playing emulation like PS3 , dreamcast; Xbox titles that i loved but i've tried God Of War Ragnarok with game porting toolkit and despite the fact that it is some sort of virtualisation( but made by Apple to play windows games and see how they behave ) it is quite good if you play at 1800p in medium to high , B
ut of course you'll have way better results playing native mac games like Lies of P, Baldur's Gate 3, RE Village , FF XIV or no man sky and so on ,.
Apple is focusing on GPU more and more i think to bring more gamers and 3D artist on the mac who need a powerful GPU , on the 16 it is way less noisy or hot than on the 14 inch , No fans on any emulators, no fan nor heat playing native mac games, but Playing with game porting toolkit , fans can go near 3600rpm and it's a bit hotter , but nothing like the 14 inch M3 max .
some games have glitches but overall most of the windows big games are playable . of course a native port would allows those titles to run at higher res + quality but it's already quite amazing that they run even not plugged without perfomance loss... that is my experience so far, i have kept the 16 inch and sent back the 14 inch for various reasons. i do not mind the size.
Keep the M3 Pro and save money. Use the extra money to get the desktop setup.
Yeah that's probably a smart thing to do, but I just loved the editing experience so much it's hard to go back to anything less, hehe. We'll see, I have some time to think about it, but I appreciate you weighing in 👊
Hey bud, is your m3 pro the 14core version or the 18core version?
I believe it was the 12/18 with 18 gb Ram. I wanted to get it right away and it was the only one available when they first launched in my area. It was nice but ultimately didn't work out for my needs.
The Max was the 16/40 with 48gb ram.