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The tragedy is that she never had a choice. If it wasn’t Edward’s wishes, it was the pressure of her parents, husband and father in law which made her accept the throne. She knew she was doomed from the moment the crown was set on her head.
@@Shane-Flanaganhe was king at the time so he had the authority. But he was also taking advantage of by shady people plus I believe they were poisoning him so he and Jane were victims
@@ladynikkie Being a minor he didn't have full authority, that's why he had Lord Protectors so his he had no real right altering his father's Act of Succession which was valid
Poor Jane she really was dealt a bad hand in all of this. She didn’t deserve what happened to her. She didn’t even want to be queen, she even acknowledges Mary as the rightful queen. Her parents, father in law, exploited the poor girl
This was very interesting. Most of the time when historians discuss Jane Grey they talk about her like she was some random far distant cousin that was pulled out of obscurity just because they were the right faith (sort of like George I). This describes her better as someone who was very much in the royal landscape, even though not the lawful inheritor of the crown.
I always felt bad for Lady Jane Grey, reading about her life and death starting in middle school and wondering why a teen girl, being a pawn in the schemes of others, had to be beheaded so young…
@@NDNauthorgirlie She was very much a victim of circumstance, but before we start talking about 'poor, sweet girls' we have to remember that Jane Grey was, in fact, every bit as much of a religious bigot as her rival Mary Tudor. She continued to shower invective on the Catholic faith even when she was imprisoned in the tower, which is hardly a clever thing to do with Mary I of England on the throne! Mary was reluctant to issue death warrants for Jane and her husband, but her hot-headedness and intransigence certainly did not help, and in this respect she was at least partly the architect of her own demise.
Guildford: I swear to God, I will leave you and not sleep with you if you don't make me King! Jane: ....Sounds like you won't be King either way, then 🤷♀️ Try me, sir 😏
@Lady_Frances_Grey True. She stayed on their necks because they found love and marriage, which was totally unfair. That and she was paranoid because they were heirs to the throne as well.
@@areiaaphrodite Yes, she's an old hag. Elizabeth was so mean to my daughters because they could have babies. She's scared of anyone who could take her place.
Her story is tragic, although I don’t consider her a Queen. I wish her father had kept still during Wyatt’s rebellion, Queen Mary was determined to pardon her, and even days before her scheduled execution, she tried to convert her to Catholicism because that would eliminate her as a threat… Henry Grey ruined his life and that of his daughter
I would personally consider her to be the second "technical" queen, but not a legitimate one. Same thing with Matilda as they were named as the heirs by the monarch most previous to them. They were queens by technicality although not successfully with Jane being only Queen for 9 days while Matilda was met with rebellion and disagreements about her ruling the country due to her sex. I will definitely agree with the sentiment that Jane's immediate family that has treated her so horribly before has wronged her even further when they pretty much caused her to be executed.
Charles Brandon was also King Henry's best friend, and was one of the few people elevated to a Dukedom even tho he wasn't of royal blood, and only by the favour he had with the king. As he loved his sister and his friend, he didn't dissolute the marrieage.
Henry must have loved Charles very deeply, it always amazes me that given how many people lost their favor and their heads, Charles survived through it all and Henry even paid for his funeral in the end.
I remember reading a quote attributed to her: “For when I am in the presence either of father or mother, whether I speak, keep silence, sit, stand or go, eat, drink, be merry or sad, be sewing, playing, dancing, or doing anything else, I must do it as it were in such weight, measure and number, even so perfectly as God made the world; or else I am so sharply taunted, so cruelly threatened, yea presently sometimes with pinches, nips and bobs and other ways (which I will not name for the honour I bear them) ... that I think myself in hell.” She really didn’t have any say in her life, now did she? If her father hadn’t rebelled, she wouldn’t have lost her head.
I think the stories of the Grey sisters: Jane, Katherine and Mary should get a show. I don't know of any other siblings getting kicked so hard by fate. Jane murdered at the age of 16/17, Katherine starving to death and Mary dying of the plague on her 33rd birthday.
Although Elizabeth executed Mary, queen of Scots because she was directly involved in a plot to have Elizabeth assassinated while Jane was just a pawn who had no real intentions of taking the throne from Mary. So it does make Jane’s story more tragic than Mary, queen of Scots.
@@ibrahimzayaan435Mary had spared Jane originally and had not intended on executing Jane and only did so thanks to Wyatt's rebellion. As long as Jane lived, Mary's reign would've been under constant threat of uprisings in Jane's name
Queen Jane Grey was the great granddaughter of King Henry VII and Elizabeth of York. She was also the great granddaughter of Thomas Grey, Elizabeth Woodvilles eldest son. So she was the great great granddaughter of Elizabeth Woodville from both of her mother's and father's side. Such an interesting lineage.
@@rowennoonan6716yep, very common at the time. After the wars of the roses, so many noble men had been killed or imprisoned that the upper class in England consisted of pretty much 4 or 5 families that all traded brides back and forth. The Howard’s, Bolyens, Seymour’s, Neville’s and Percy’s were the main noble families and any prominent figure of the time is practically guaranteed to have blood or marriage ties to one of them. Catherine Howard and Anne Boleyn were first cousins, Jane Seymour’s mother was a half-first cousin of Anne Boleyn’s mother and Catherine Howard’s father, Catherine Parr was married to Jane Seymour’s brother after Henry’s death, etc etc. It was basically one huge extended family
i also find it so sad and interesting, that elizabeth woodville, who’s was the grandmother of henry the 8th thus great grandmother of mary 1, was also the mother of the grey line, i think she was the great great grandmother of lady jane grey, thus they were all truly cousins multiple ways around both through mary’s daughter marrying into the grey line but also through their ancestor elizabeth woodville herself
If I remember correctly that branch was deceased from one of her brothers who she had married into a wealthy family once she became queen. One of the reasons people didn’t like was because of her marrying her kin “above their station” EDIT: I just checked Jane’s father was also descended from Elizabeth woodvile from her eldest son from her first marriage
Despite having had such close ties to the doomed Lady Jane Grey, her hapless husband Guilford's older brother Robert Dudley not only survived but even became a favorite of Queen Elizabeth the First AND, in turn,would become the stepfather of her flighty last known favorite, Robert Devereux, the Earl of Essex!
@@Caramelpop86 Yep, truth is often stranger- especially re family ties! Robert Dudley's 2nd wife (and the Earl of Essex's mother) was one Lettice Knollys (yes, Lettice was her actual given name)- a great-niece of Anne Boleyn and whose own mother may have been a nonmarital child of Henry VIII himself- thus a confirmed 1st cousin once-removed of Elizabeth via Anne and a possible half-niece of Elizabeth via Henry. Lettice would long outlive all the above,her three husbands and all of her children but would dote on her surviving grandchildren until her death at 91 on Christmas Day, 1634. Regardless of her mother's parentage Lettice did have a strong resemblance to Elizabeth -if not cabbage!
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I've often wondered if the English people rationalized that the Tudors were cursed by God for killing several Kings and Queens throughout their tenure on the throne. Seeing as they were taught to believe that monarchs were put there by God himself. Henry VII killed Richard III Henry VIII killed several of his Queens Edward VI took away the crown from his sisters Queen Mary killed the technically legal "Queen Jane Grey" Queen Elizabeth killed Mary Queen of Scots "Bloody royals" should be a mini series for this dynasty...
@@andypham1636the King made her his legal heir. If anyone was at fault, it was him for changing the line of succession. She was legitimately the Queen, but Mary also had a legitimate claim, since she was wrongfully passed over
@@andypham1636 This is true, but Jane had the right to tell Mary it wasn't her fault and pointed fingers at her family. She was abused and threatened all the time, What would she have to lose? exile to a nunnery? to France? She had a better shot to have begged mercy and leniency of the Queen by being honest and repeating in an abdication notice that she accepted under duress and had never entertained the idea of taking Mary's crown.
"Yadda yadda, we can't have a female queen." They clearly couldn't plan this well. They ended up with the brief queen Jane, queen Mary and queen Elizabeth. Maybe if it wasn't for the prejudice, their paths could have been less tragic.
There is only one that I know of, the 1986 film Lady Jane starring a teenage Helena Bonham-Carter. The film is very well-done, though historically inaccurate in some details. There is definitely room for a new take on this bit of history.
The thing that got to me was after sheknew Mary would be queen she asked can I go home now I mean how sad and tragic is that!!! The poor girl just wanted to go home
She probably thought death was the only escape from the hell she was living. That incubator was still alive, who knows what would have happened if she got her hands on Lady Jane again.
Alison Weir's book Innocent Traitor was an excellent book on Jane Grey. Read it if you ever get the chance. Jane's story was so tragic. I put her death solely on her parents AND Mary
I'd also recommend "Three Maids for a Crown" by Ella March Chase. It's fiction, but it expands the story to include her sisters, Katherine and Mary, who also had horrible fates. Both were imprisoned for getting married without permission. Katherine starved to death (either from depression after the long imprisonment or from TB, as a lack of appetite is a symptom), while Mary was eventually released, but fate kicked her one last time, dying of the plague on her birthday. Seriously, someone should make a series about the 3 Grey sisters.
Philip was not King of Spain when he married Mary in 1554. Charles V still reigned and he made his son Philip King of Naples and Sicily so that he would be a king to Mary's queen. He was only King of Spain for the last 2 years of Mary's reign (1556 - 1558)
I’m American, so my education was focused primarily around the prior 250-300 years. European history was also taught, but not as heavily as what happened this side of the Atlantic. Around what year can we say that Protestantism went mainstream in Europe? Martin Luther published the 95 in 1517. It’s wild to think that only appx 35 years later, people were getting beheaded over Catholic vs. Protestant.
Roots of objection to Catholicism tenets and certain practices date back to the end of the 14th century in various locations. E.g. the Lollards. Like Catholicism, the furore of Protestantism really depends on where and when but Luther's protest did kick of a series of events which culminated in different ways. Anglicanism for example was created in 1532, as nothing more than a ploy for Henry to disobey the Pope and have his divorce. It was Catholicism in all but name, and he even persecuted those holding extreme Protestant values. That doesn't however mean that the Calvinist/Lutherist ideologies hadn't spread already (the Greys, Katherine Parr for e.g.) - and once Edward came to power he had been fully indoctrinated with a radicalised privy council lead by Seymour. I'd argue that Edward and Jane were truly radicalised, whilst any executions or persecutions from Mary, Elizabeth, James and Charles being more political, security or influenced than fierce conviction (Mary obviously contrasting the others due to the traditionalist nature of her alignment and the manipulated reputation being put on her after her reign). It's really the 17th century where it becomes mass culture wars - both continental Europe (30y war) and UK (civil war). The death toll of the 30 Year War wouldn't be topped in Europe until WW1! The Puritans for example were considered extremists even then - by both England and the Netherlands (both Protestant nations) and is why they were exiled. Their radicalism caused the brief authoritarianism of Republic under Cromwell and is probably even why the US is WAY more religious than we are in Europe to this day
I have the biggest lump in my throat right now finishing the video knowing my own niece is 16 years old and what a tender age that is and poor Lady Jane Grey being that age and still having courage to stay true to her beliefs as well as still maintaining some sense of composure enough to recite the last words of Jesus Christ. Such a sad story!
This is so sad. That poor girl. It just makes my blood boil and heart break every time I learn about a woman forced to be some sort of political or economic pawn. She handled a horrific situation with courage. Wow.
Felt sorry for Jane that she doesn't want to be queen only lasted for a week, costing the Grey family members downfall, hope to show of Jane's family background soon.
It’s so sad how women were used as pawns for men as a means of power & as soon as the tides changed were abandoned. It’s even sadder how the ones that manage to survive through it just carry on as if they are not the reasons for their daughters, nieces & etc demise. So sad.
How do you mean? Handmade clothes made with the proper know-how are generally far sturdier than the flimsy fast fashion stuff we mostly have now, which is literally designed to disintegrate in two years. The fabrics of the clothes these royal people would wear were high-quality and expertly treated. If there was damage to a piece it would also be repaired, lengthening the life span of a piece of clothing.
None of this was her fault. It was her parents fault. She never wanted the crown yet was forced to take the crown & it eventually led to her parents doom.
I have always held a theory that had Edward have lived, He and Lady Jane would’ve gotten married. They were close in age and as we know the royals have no qualms in marrying their first cousins all the way to the 19th Century.
Edward was engaged to Elizabeth of Valois when he died. I highly doubt he was going to marry Jane, as he would gain nothing politically from it, and it seems from his own writing that Edward thought he could do much better than his English-born cousins.
I am no feminist in the least, but the thought of pre-adult girls being “betrothed” to decrepit old geezers or wealthy noblemen enrages me to no end. The male Tudors’ vain attempt to install a dude on the throne cost too many decent and innocent girls/women their dignity & life😡. Thank God Elizabeth I proved her Daddy & brother WRONG. I'll argue the Queen surpassed both in intellect & strength of character.
That poor poor girl, she knew she was doomed and she didn't want to be a Queen because Mary I was the rightful heir to the English Throne. I blame everyone who pressured her to do this, they got her killed. May she rest in peace 🕊️❤🙏🏽
@@emilybarclay8831Did you even watch the video Mary I tried way to remove Jane's involvement so she wouldn't be seen as a threat and the request of her death to not be brought up but Her own father tainted her by naming her the reason for his rebelling and brought about his own daughter's down fall but even then Mary I offered conversion which would have saved Jane as then her involvement as her father said as invalid as she would be a Catholic with out any reason to be the figure head of the rebellion.
If Jane would live longer, what would Happen to England is something that I keep questioning about. She was a teenage prodigy, studious and overall religious.
When King Edward was choosing the succession, why didn't he disqualify Princess Marry on the ground of her religion instead of her illegitimacy? Then he could have chosen Princess Elizabeth.
There was no legal precedent for that. If you declared Mary illegitimate, those same laws you used to do that would declare Elizabeth illegitimate. Plus, Edward appears to have legitimately believed the Boleyn marriage to be illegitimate. The marriage was annulled, so legally it never happened. Which begs the question, how could Anne have committed adultery against Henry when she was never married to him, but hey, Henry VIIi wasn’t one for logic and reason
This is the 1st time I've heard the full story behind Lady Jane's short time as Queen and why she lost the throne. Such a sad and unfair life for her. Sounds like Lady Parr and her cousin Elizabeth were the only ppl that truly cared about Jane. IMO, the most disgusting part of all this, is the neverending ridiculousness of religion. Religion has ruined so many lives.
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The was a horrible history video about Lady Jane Grey
This is so historcal
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The tragedy is that she never had a choice. If it wasn’t Edward’s wishes, it was the pressure of her parents, husband and father in law which made her accept the throne. She knew she was doomed from the moment the crown was set on her head.
Edward was a weird fellow...
Plus, Edward was still a minor so had no right altering the Act of Succession
@@Shane-Flanaganhe was king at the time so he had the authority. But he was also taking advantage of by shady people plus I believe they were poisoning him so he and Jane were victims
@@ladynikkie Being a minor he didn't have full authority, that's why he had Lord Protectors so his he had no real right altering his father's Act of Succession which was valid
Her life was rather sad. She had an abusive home life and she ended up dead Over the crowd of England
Hearing her story at 12 was entertaining, now at 21, it's just heartbreaking.
At 58 years it seems a complete and total waste of a young life! Poor Forced Queen Jane 😞 😢
Poor Jane she really was dealt a bad hand in all of this. She didn’t deserve what happened to her. She didn’t even want to be queen, she even acknowledges Mary as the rightful queen. Her parents, father in law, exploited the poor girl
Then her mom just carried on living as before under her daughter’s murderer in luxury it’s insane.
@@karawigley6231 IKR
I think had Jane denounced her Protestant faith and recognized Catholicism as her new faith Queen Mary perhaps would've spared her life.
This was very interesting. Most of the time when historians discuss Jane Grey they talk about her like she was some random far distant cousin that was pulled out of obscurity just because they were the right faith (sort of like George I). This describes her better as someone who was very much in the royal landscape, even though not the lawful inheritor of the crown.
Yup! But here she was the first cousin of Edward. They always make it seem like she was a 10th cousin or something lol
I always felt bad for Lady Jane Grey, reading about her life and death starting in middle school and wondering why a teen girl, being a pawn in the schemes of others, had to be beheaded so young…
The sad thing is it wasn’t her fault but the men in control of her life couldn’t stand Queen Mary and their rebellion led to Jane’s execution😢
That poor, sweet girl. Used by her parents, her husband and in law and never had a choice in anything.
@@NDNauthorgirlie She was very much a victim of circumstance, but before we start talking about 'poor, sweet girls' we have to remember that Jane Grey was, in fact, every bit as much of a religious bigot as her rival Mary Tudor. She continued to shower invective on the Catholic faith even when she was imprisoned in the tower, which is hardly a clever thing to do with Mary I of England on the throne! Mary was reluctant to issue death warrants for Jane and her husband, but her hot-headedness and intransigence certainly did not help, and in this respect she was at least partly the architect of her own demise.
Guildford: I swear to God, I will leave you and not sleep with you if you don't make me King!
Jane: ....Sounds like you won't be King either way, then 🤷♀️ Try me, sir 😏
You should do a video on her sisters next. They weren't executed, but they both still had sad, hard lives mostly because of Elizabeth I.
I do believe the house of Grey went on through THEIR bloodline into the modern/current day/age
@redadmiralofvalyria867 ...I don't understand what you're trying to say...
Elizabeth was just jealous of my girls. It made things harder for them. But their stories are important, no matter what she thought.
@Lady_Frances_Grey True. She stayed on their necks because they found love and marriage, which was totally unfair. That and she was paranoid because they were heirs to the throne as well.
@@areiaaphrodite Yes, she's an old hag. Elizabeth was so mean to my daughters because they could have babies. She's scared of anyone who could take her place.
Talk about a victim of circumstance. Lady Jane Grey didn't deserve any of it. She was too good for this sinful world.
Her story is tragic, although I don’t consider her a Queen. I wish her father had kept still during Wyatt’s rebellion, Queen Mary was determined to pardon her, and even days before her scheduled execution, she tried to convert her to Catholicism because that would eliminate her as a threat… Henry Grey ruined his life and that of his daughter
I have to agree.
I would personally consider her to be the second "technical" queen, but not a legitimate one. Same thing with Matilda as they were named as the heirs by the monarch most previous to them. They were queens by technicality although not successfully with Jane being only Queen for 9 days while Matilda was met with rebellion and disagreements about her ruling the country due to her sex. I will definitely agree with the sentiment that Jane's immediate family that has treated her so horribly before has wronged her even further when they pretty much caused her to be executed.
Hi friend.
But Jane was a queen
did you not watch the video? she had no desire to be queen, acknowledged the throne was Mary's, + was pressured into it @@cynthiaromo4170
“Can I go home now?” Breaks my heart. She wasn’t that much younger than me. She was just a kid.
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Wow, thank you!
She was a queen of England, even if only for 9 days. After all, she isn't called the 9 days pretender.
Charles Brandon was also King Henry's best friend, and was one of the few people elevated to a Dukedom even tho he wasn't of royal blood, and only by the favour he had with the king. As he loved his sister and his friend, he didn't dissolute the marrieage.
Henry must have loved Charles very deeply, it always amazes me that given how many people lost their favor and their heads, Charles survived through it all and Henry even paid for his funeral in the end.
I remember reading a quote attributed to her: “For when I am in the presence either of father or mother, whether I speak, keep silence, sit, stand or go, eat, drink, be merry or sad, be sewing, playing, dancing, or doing anything else, I must do it as it were in such weight, measure and number, even so perfectly as God made the world; or else I am so sharply taunted, so cruelly threatened, yea presently sometimes with pinches, nips and bobs and other ways (which I will not name for the honour I bear them) ... that I think myself in hell.”
She really didn’t have any say in her life, now did she? If her father hadn’t rebelled, she wouldn’t have lost her head.
I think the stories of the Grey sisters: Jane, Katherine and Mary should get a show. I don't know of any other siblings getting kicked so hard by fate. Jane murdered at the age of 16/17, Katherine starving to death and Mary dying of the plague on her 33rd birthday.
There really was no more dangerous place to be in Tudor England than close to the throne.
Being a competent servant named Thomas: Thomas Wolsey, Thomas More, Thomas Cromwell etc.
I feel great compassion and sympathy for Queen Jane. She deserves to be honoured and respected as a queen for the rest of history.
I've always been fascinated with Lady Jane Grey.
It's crazy to think Mary and Elizabeth both executed their cousins for such similar reasons.
I feel sad for Lady Jane.❤
Birds of a feather flock together.
James VI/I later executed his relative for marrying without permission
Although Elizabeth executed Mary, queen of Scots because she was directly involved in a plot to have Elizabeth assassinated while Jane was just a pawn who had no real intentions of taking the throne from Mary. So it does make Jane’s story more tragic than Mary, queen of Scots.
@@ibrahimzayaan435Mary had spared Jane originally and had not intended on executing Jane and only did so thanks to Wyatt's rebellion. As long as Jane lived, Mary's reign would've been under constant threat of uprisings in Jane's name
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Queen Jane Grey was the great granddaughter of King Henry VII and Elizabeth of York. She was also the great granddaughter of Thomas Grey, Elizabeth Woodvilles eldest son. So she was the great great granddaughter of Elizabeth Woodville from both of her mother's and father's side. Such an interesting lineage.
wow so her parents were half second cousins??
@@rowennoonan6716yep, very common at the time. After the wars of the roses, so many noble men had been killed or imprisoned that the upper class in England consisted of pretty much 4 or 5 families that all traded brides back and forth. The Howard’s, Bolyens, Seymour’s, Neville’s and Percy’s were the main noble families and any prominent figure of the time is practically guaranteed to have blood or marriage ties to one of them. Catherine Howard and Anne Boleyn were first cousins, Jane Seymour’s mother was a half-first cousin of Anne Boleyn’s mother and Catherine Howard’s father, Catherine Parr was married to Jane Seymour’s brother after Henry’s death, etc etc.
It was basically one huge extended family
One big circle of incest for power
i also find it so sad and interesting, that elizabeth woodville, who’s was the grandmother of henry the 8th thus great grandmother of mary 1, was also the mother of the grey line, i think she was the great great grandmother of lady jane grey, thus they were all truly cousins multiple ways around both through mary’s daughter marrying into the grey line but also through their ancestor elizabeth woodville herself
If I remember correctly that branch was deceased from one of her brothers who she had married into a wealthy family once she became queen. One of the reasons people didn’t like was because of her marrying her kin “above their station”
EDIT: I just checked Jane’s father was also descended from Elizabeth woodvile from her eldest son from her first marriage
Despite having had such close ties to the doomed Lady Jane Grey, her hapless husband Guilford's older brother Robert Dudley not only survived but even became a favorite of Queen Elizabeth the First AND, in turn,would become the stepfather of her flighty last known favorite, Robert Devereux, the Earl of Essex!
WAIT WHAT!!! That's the same person?! Wooooooow
@@Caramelpop86 Yep, truth is often stranger- especially re family ties!
Robert Dudley's 2nd wife (and the Earl of Essex's mother) was one Lettice Knollys (yes, Lettice was her actual given name)- a great-niece of Anne Boleyn and whose own mother may have been a nonmarital child of Henry VIII himself- thus a confirmed 1st cousin once-removed of Elizabeth via Anne and a possible half-niece of Elizabeth via Henry. Lettice would long outlive all the above,her three husbands and all of her children but would dote on her surviving grandchildren until her death at 91 on Christmas Day, 1634. Regardless of her mother's parentage Lettice did have a strong resemblance to Elizabeth -if not cabbage!
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I've always felt so bad for Jane. She didn't want nor ask for any of this. She was extremely manipulated from birth. 😢
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I've often wondered if the English people rationalized that the Tudors were cursed by God for killing several Kings and Queens throughout their tenure on the throne. Seeing as they were taught to believe that monarchs were put there by God himself.
Henry VII killed Richard III
Henry VIII killed several of his Queens
Edward VI took away the crown from his sisters
Queen Mary killed the technically legal "Queen Jane Grey"
Queen Elizabeth killed Mary Queen of Scots
"Bloody royals" should be a mini series for this dynasty...
Yes that would be a great title! Great comment
queen Jane grey was not legal at any point.she had no desire, acknowledged it was Mary's right, + was basically pressured into it
@@andypham1636the King made her his legal heir. If anyone was at fault, it was him for changing the line of succession. She was legitimately the Queen, but Mary also had a legitimate claim, since she was wrongfully passed over
she was not legitimately the queen, since parliament didn't approve his devise of the succession @@Anna-B
@@andypham1636 This is true, but Jane had the right to tell Mary it wasn't her fault and pointed fingers at her family. She was abused and threatened all the time, What would she have to lose? exile to a nunnery? to France? She had a better shot to have begged mercy and leniency of the Queen by being honest and repeating in an abdication notice that she accepted under duress and had never entertained the idea of taking Mary's crown.
"Yadda yadda, we can't have a female queen."
They clearly couldn't plan this well. They ended up with the brief queen Jane, queen Mary and queen Elizabeth.
Maybe if it wasn't for the prejudice, their paths could have been less tragic.
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Teenagers thrown into what they couldn't understand.
this girl was only 17! she never asked for this and how she died is truly heart-breaking!
All these movies and shows about Anne Boleyn and Mary, Mary, and Elizabeth. But we really should have this story as a tv series
There is only one that I know of, the 1986 film Lady Jane starring a teenage Helena Bonham-Carter. The film is very well-done, though historically inaccurate in some details. There is definitely room for a new take on this bit of history.
The thing that got to me was after sheknew Mary would be queen she asked can I go home now I mean how sad and tragic is that!!! The poor girl just wanted to go home
She probably thought death was the only escape from the hell she was living. That incubator was still alive, who knows what would have happened if she got her hands on
Lady Jane again.
I was literally just thinking this morning that this would be an interesting video lol. Thank you! I love all of your videos!
Thank you for explaining the lineage
Thanks I always felt so sad for her.😔🌹
Poor girl... Another tragic life of a kid that was used by more powerful people...
@LindsayHoliday, I had no idea that the odds of Queen Jane prevailing had been so high. Thank you for this insight!
As someone who got into British royals after reading Mark Twain's "Prince and the Pauper", I am so happy about you covering this topic
Yes!!!!!!! Was waiting for a Lady Jane video!
Alison Weir's book Innocent Traitor was an excellent book on Jane Grey. Read it if you ever get the chance. Jane's story was so tragic. I put her death solely on her parents AND Mary
I'd also recommend "Three Maids for a Crown" by Ella March Chase. It's fiction, but it expands the story to include her sisters, Katherine and Mary, who also had horrible fates. Both were imprisoned for getting married without permission. Katherine starved to death (either from depression after the long imprisonment or from TB, as a lack of appetite is a symptom), while Mary was eventually released, but fate kicked her one last time, dying of the plague on her birthday. Seriously, someone should make a series about the 3 Grey sisters.
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Could you consider doing a video on the Jimena Dynasty? Particularly the siblings Sancho, Alfonso, Gracia and their sister Urraca?
Thank You Lindsay! ❤
Hi Lindsay! I AM A 12 YEAR OLD BUT I LOOOVE YOUR VIDSSS!!❤❤❤❤
Philip was not King of Spain when he married Mary in 1554. Charles V still reigned and he made his son Philip King of Naples and Sicily so that he would be a king to Mary's queen. He was only King of Spain for the last 2 years of Mary's reign (1556 - 1558)
yes
Charles I in spain
I’m American, so my education was focused primarily around the prior 250-300 years. European history was also taught, but not as heavily as what happened this side of the Atlantic.
Around what year can we say that Protestantism went mainstream in Europe? Martin Luther published the 95 in 1517. It’s wild to think that only appx 35 years later, people were getting beheaded over Catholic vs. Protestant.
Roots of objection to Catholicism tenets and certain practices date back to the end of the 14th century in various locations. E.g. the Lollards.
Like Catholicism, the furore of Protestantism really depends on where and when but Luther's protest did kick of a series of events which culminated in different ways.
Anglicanism for example was created in 1532, as nothing more than a ploy for Henry to disobey the Pope and have his divorce. It was Catholicism in all but name, and he even persecuted those holding extreme Protestant values.
That doesn't however mean that the Calvinist/Lutherist ideologies hadn't spread already (the Greys, Katherine Parr for e.g.) - and once Edward came to power he had been fully indoctrinated with a radicalised privy council lead by Seymour.
I'd argue that Edward and Jane were truly radicalised, whilst any executions or persecutions from Mary, Elizabeth, James and Charles being more political, security or influenced than fierce conviction (Mary obviously contrasting the others due to the traditionalist nature of her alignment and the manipulated reputation being put on her after her reign).
It's really the 17th century where it becomes mass culture wars - both continental Europe (30y war) and UK (civil war). The death toll of the 30 Year War wouldn't be topped in Europe until WW1!
The Puritans for example were considered extremists even then - by both England and the Netherlands (both Protestant nations) and is why they were exiled.
Their radicalism caused the brief authoritarianism of Republic under Cromwell and is probably even why the US is WAY more religious than we are in Europe to this day
Can you please do a series on the kings of France as well as the queen consorts of France?
I have the biggest lump in my throat right now finishing the video knowing my own niece is 16 years old and what a tender age that is and poor Lady Jane Grey being that age and still having courage to stay true to her beliefs as well as still maintaining some sense of composure enough to recite the last words of Jesus Christ. Such a sad story!
This is so sad. That poor girl. It just makes my blood boil and heart break every time I learn about a woman forced to be some sort of political or economic pawn. She handled a horrific situation with courage. Wow.
I can't believe!!! She didn't want to become queen. But instead she got beheaded because of a "Rebellion"
Poor Jane 😢 so heartbreaking
Mary I, the first undisputed Queen regnant of England 👑
I went to the Tower of London recently and saw the carving her husband made in the wall. My heart dropped a little :(
Of all the excecutions this one really made me feel sad, she couldn't even defend herself and was never given a choice, poor girl she was too young 😢
I found a fascinating book on the tie between the last Habsburgs (Franz Ferdinand and Sophie's children)and Hitler.
Could you please share the title for those of us who would like to read it? History is fascinating
Franz Ferdinand + Sophie's children were not Habsburgs, because their marriage was morganatic. Charles I + Zita's children were the last, actually
I was sad when they canceled My Lady Jane. Loved that show
Hello, I love your channel! I was wondering if you could do a video about Edward IV of England's illegitimate children.
he had some??
@@andypham1636 several I believe
@@pedanticradiator bruh I thought he was faithful to Elizabeth woodvile
@andypham1636 oh god no
@@andypham1636 I wish but I think he had 4? so that's why I want a video about it so I can be certain.
Felt sorry for Jane that she doesn't want to be queen only lasted for a week, costing the Grey family members downfall, hope to show of Jane's family background soon.
16 years... I can't imagine...😢
I know your channel is based on the royalties but would you considered doing videos.on the dukes and dutchess that help shape their countries.
One of the saddest story I have known for sometime.😢 She was betrayed so badly being so young and not aware of court intrigues.🙄
"Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown." Shakespeare certainly spoke the truth. Poor Jane; a tragic pawn for others who craved power. 😢
It’s so sad how women were used as pawns for men as a means of power & as soon as the tides changed were abandoned. It’s even sadder how the ones that manage to survive through it just carry on as if they are not the reasons for their daughters, nieces & etc demise. So sad.
cursed feminists queen killed because of sister king edward 4 mary
Would you consider doing videos about some of earldoms and dukedoms and their roles in history?
How terrifying. That poor girl, waking up everyday with people slowly disappearing and leaving her basically to the slaughter. So so sad.
She was another tragic figure in the Tudor dynasty.
Please make a video about Alfred the Great! Also about Vikings!
She had so much dignity and grace even in such tragedy
Love these stories can anyone tell me how they made all the elaborate clothes in this era if they were handmade how did they not fall apart
How do you mean? Handmade clothes made with the proper know-how are generally far sturdier than the flimsy fast fashion stuff we mostly have now, which is literally designed to disintegrate in two years. The fabrics of the clothes these royal people would wear were high-quality and expertly treated. If there was damage to a piece it would also be repaired, lengthening the life span of a piece of clothing.
The guy in the painting with her blindfolded at her execution (Sir Thomas Brydges) is my 14x Great Grandpa lol
How do you know that
@@ashtondmello1968 How do I know its Thomas Brydges or my 14x Great Grandpa?
None of this was her fault. It was her parents fault. She never wanted the crown yet was forced to take the crown & it eventually led to her parents doom.
It most definitely isn't my fault. I won't stand for anyone questioning how I raised my children!!!!!
I have always held a theory that had Edward have lived, He and Lady Jane would’ve gotten married. They were close in age and as we know the royals have no qualms in marrying their first cousins all the way to the 19th Century.
Edward was engaged to Elizabeth of Valois when he died.
I highly doubt he was going to marry Jane, as he would gain nothing politically from it, and it seems from his own writing that Edward thought he could do much better than his English-born cousins.
Very tragic and so much violence.
Woe to those who betrayed my sisters in their own blood. May their souls never rest until they know the extent of their sin upon woman.
Love you Lindsey ❤
A lot of commoners never even heard of Jane Gray at that time.
10:42 those aren’t the grey children that’s a painting done by an Italian female artist during the renaissance Sofonisba Anguissola
Poor Jane Grey.
Some legend is just that.
I am no feminist in the least, but the thought of pre-adult girls being “betrothed” to decrepit old geezers or wealthy noblemen enrages me to no end. The male Tudors’ vain attempt to install a dude on the throne cost too many decent and innocent girls/women their dignity & life😡. Thank God Elizabeth I proved her Daddy & brother WRONG. I'll argue the Queen surpassed both in intellect & strength of character.
You are like me
are you able to do a video on Joan of Arc? thank youuuu i love your channel!!!
Please do a video on Katherine Howard
@theashwoodfaerie Like a dedicated video to her I mean
Is there a code for the free month of Magellan?
Poor Jane, I feel so bad for her.
She didn’t deserve to be treated harshly by her parents.
That poor poor girl, she knew she was doomed and she didn't want to be a Queen because Mary I was the rightful heir to the English Throne. I blame everyone who pressured her to do this, they got her killed. May she rest in peace 🕊️❤🙏🏽
Queen Mary did NOT want to execute Jane. But was left with little choice
Mary was eager to execute Jane the moment her foreign husband said he wouldn’t sleep with her if Jane was still alive
@@emilybarclay8831Did you even watch the video Mary I tried way to remove Jane's involvement so she wouldn't be seen as a threat and the request of her death to not be brought up but Her own father tainted her by naming her the reason for his rebelling and brought about his own daughter's down fall but even then Mary I offered conversion which would have saved Jane as then her involvement as her father said as invalid as she would be a Catholic with out any reason to be the figure head of the rebellion.
I keep coming back to ask you to do more POCs...Seondeok, Myeongseong, Suiko, etc. More Asians and other POCs
If Jane would live longer, what would Happen to England is something that I keep questioning about. She was a teenage prodigy, studious and overall religious.
A very sad story. Her family used and betrayed her.
When King Edward was choosing the succession, why didn't he disqualify Princess Marry on the ground of her religion instead of her illegitimacy? Then he could have chosen Princess Elizabeth.
There was no legal precedent for that. If you declared Mary illegitimate, those same laws you used to do that would declare Elizabeth illegitimate. Plus, Edward appears to have legitimately believed the Boleyn marriage to be illegitimate. The marriage was annulled, so legally it never happened. Which begs the question, how could Anne have committed adultery against Henry when she was never married to him, but hey, Henry VIIi wasn’t one for logic and reason
What in the world was the little Henry holding in his lap there??
This is the 1st time I've heard the full story behind Lady Jane's short time as Queen and why she lost the throne. Such a sad and unfair life for her. Sounds like Lady Parr and her cousin Elizabeth were the only ppl that truly cared about Jane. IMO, the most disgusting part of all this, is the neverending ridiculousness of religion. Religion has ruined so many lives.
I have a video idea for you
Rani Jhansi Bai from India
She was a very fear some Warrior just like boudica of the United Kingdom she is still very praised in India all those she lost the war you should definitely make a video on her in your series queens of the world
Royal couple really in love part 2
Empress Anna of Russia
Matilda queen of England the first ruling queen of UK
Cleopatra of Egypt
Isabella the second of Spain
not disputing Matilda's reign, but she never styled herself queen, she called herself "lady of the English"
@@andypham1636you are right but she did have power for sometime
Also, even though Cleopatra is typvially known as just that, she was actually the 7th of that name to reign in Egypt
So sad for her
I believe through his mother, Mary, he was next in line for the throne.
The whole system of monarchy is SO violent, her story is really tragic. She never stood a chance and sounded like a brilliant girl.