Yay! I’m so happy your going to make videos about the female and male consorts of England! I actually suggested doing this in a previous video but I never imagined you would actually do it! Thank you so much... can’t wait!
I love Lindsay's videos too! I've also wanted a video about Isabela. Another video I think would be be interesting is a video about Vlad The Impaler (Dracula) or a video about Queen Elizabth ii great-grandchildren, cuz Lindsay did the queens children and grandchildren.
I've been bugging shamelessly bugging Lindsey about videos on the 2 "She-Wolfs of France" (Isabella and Margaret d'Anjou, Henry the 6ths wife) I'm SO grateful, I never understood why Isabella was considered a "she-wolf" although Margaret of Anjou I can kinda see why she would be considered...She-Wolfy (is that a word? Lol) It seems more like Isabella was less of a 'she-wolf' and just genuinely tried to rule her kingdom. Edward II was more like a "He-Lamb" lol of England. Isabella gets a bad rap that is most def undeserved in my opinion. Also it sounds like The Third Reich lifted/copied Edward's persecution of Jews complete with forcing them to wear the Star of David on their clothes then blaming,persecuting, banishing, murdering and stealing from them🤤 😓😔 Thank you Lindsay SO much for these videos !! Perhaps videos explaining the Cousins War/Wars of The Roses next??? Maybe ? Please pretty please🤞
@@haydeecolon7868 ... and yet, somehow, she held herself together, her head held high, and managed to do the best that she could, for herself, and for the people that she ruled. I truly have no pity for her poor excuse of a "Husband", & I was glad when he was disposed of. I know that things didn't altogether turn out as she had planned, but, in later years, she seemingly made up for it. Even the best-intentioned people can be led astray, and do evil, but if they turn aside from their evil, make things right with God, and go back to doing good, then that person's life is still not in vain. She was definitely a very strong Woman, and a very strong Queen!
Dang! This woman was a badass. Enduring an emotionally abusive marriage, possible sexual assault and life long humiliation. I'm surprised she didn't choke Edward II in his sleep lol. Still, she is truly an inspiration.
Yeah too bad she was emotionally abusive towards her son and betrayed him for her lover. But I guess that’s why Mortimer ended up dead and she ended up on house arrest for 20 years. “Fair son, have pity on gentle Mortimer!” 😂 🤣 the great she wolf on her knees begging a teenager. Her and Mortimer were just as incapable rulers as Edward II. Her greatest contribution to England was laying on her back and pushing Edward III out her vagina.
Ikr!!! This woman was cunning and fascinating, and she was a good mother too, her children loved her. Admirable how she kept it all together in terrible circumstances she was put in and knew how to play her cards right.
I always wish we could have actual pictures of the old royals to compare with their portraits, since the painters were sometimes a little more flattering than accurate. Obviously not an option back then, but it would be cool.
@@roove1537 They ARE pretty awesome. And a really skilled artist? They do such a bang up job. It would be so cool if the Royal family would just let them all be reconstructed. Then we would REALLY know what say, Isabella and Edward II looked like. A history geeks dream. Oh well.
Lol yeah I can't afford that 10month break so I just go to my local bar have two beers and a dirty martini and come back home with a smile and happy face lol 🤣🤣
I imagine that some people get so mad, that they take off, in order to cool off...and never return to the people that made them mad in the first place! Been there, done that, and I'm not one bit sorry for walking away from an impossible person, and an impossible situation! It happens!
Maybe her pilgrimage around England wasn't just to get some fresh air. It would have been a good excuse to get in touch with enemies of her husband, and try to work up some support to overthrow him.
She was pretty useless herself unlike Catherine. She lasted three years before her son put her on house arrest for 20 years because her and Mortimer weren’t very capable themselves. Her greatest contribution to England was pushing Edward III out her vagina quite literally. But hey, at least her son didn’t kill her like her lover even though she betrayed him for her lover. Even though she was a backstabbing bitch the son still loved her I guess or maybe letting her live after killing the man she betrayed him for was an even better punishment than death 😈
Unfortunately not. Catherine was very accomplished. Reason: Catherine got rid of her husband much sooner as she had the help of many noble boyfriends and she knew well how to use them. True, Isabella still was quite impressive.
I’m glad you covered Isabella of France! I feel like when it comes to great Queens of European history, we always mention Isabella of Castile, Elizabeth the First, Victoria, Maria Theresa, etc. but Isabella of France did remarkable things and doesn’t get enough recognition in my opinion
Neither does Catherine of Aragon, wife of Henry viii. For example Queen Catherine led a battle against the Scots and won. The pope gave her the title in her own right as Defender of the Faith.
I've read several history books that covered Isabella. She's never portrayed very well. Your video gave much more insight to why she might have been "tough." I think I have a much better understanding now. Thanks as always!
Yeah, they got between a mother bear and her cubs; sealed Eddie's fate. I can understand a lot of what Isabella did. She got stuck in an arranged loveless marriage with a loser. She's smart, learned, beautiful and probably more. Her dad and brother were among the richest, most powerful men in the world. What's such a woman going to do when a guy she actually digs shows up in the ballroom on Friday night in Paris. I get it, Isabella.
I do appreciate your more balanced portrayal as Isabella is often discounted after she is deposed by her son. Idc who you are, if you actually hated a person, you wouldn't want to be buried with any part of them. Or maybe it was her version of hell for him ... he refused to love her, so she took his heart anyway lol
I think it was her version of hell for him. Personally speaking, I don't see this move as a sign of her affection for him. More like, I hold your heart captive so no one else can.
Actually, in France they made two versions of TV series the books of Maurice Druon The Accursed Kings, in which Isabella is one of the main protagonists, it covers her life from the age of 21 to the moment when she was overthrown by her son. You can find these series with English subtitles.
When you said that Isabella expected her marriage would be like that of her parents', I couldn't help thinking she was just born a generation too late. Edward I was very much like Isabella's father, a strong ruler with an iron fist and also completely devoted to his wife...
Isabella is one of the most interesting Queen consorts to me, I remember her from the Cursed King books series. Now I want to know even more of Joan, Isabelle’s mother. Can’t wait for the new series to air
@@ChibiProwl It's by Maurice Druon; it's a French series, although all the volumes have been translated into English. It was written in the 1960s, so it is a bit dated now (both in terms of historical accuracy & just trope-wise in general; there's stuff we know now we didn't know in 1960, & there's stuff we knew in 1960 that Druon ignored anyway). It's main 'claim-to-fame' these days is as one of the chief inspirations of George RR Martin's 'A Song of Ice & Fire' fantasy novels (adapted into the better-known Game of Thrones TV show). I've read the 1st vol. or 2. It's alright; you can definitely see where Martin got Cersei & Tywin Lannister (plus a hint of Stannis Baratheon). I've since become disillusioned w/ ASOIAF (both the show & the books) so I'm not sure if I'd recommend it; Accursed Kings is really similar. Portrayal of women is... kinda iffy. It plays the whole 'Tour de Nesle' affair completely straight, for ex.
Isabella is actually one of the favourite Queens of both me and my mother. I like how in a time when women were supposed to simply accept whatever injustice was dealt to them by their husbands, Isabella decided that she wasn't going to roll over and take it with a smile. She fought for herself and usurped a weak King for her son because she knew he'd be a better King. Fun Fact: I am actually a descendant of Edward Longshanks (Hammer of The Scots), and like the senior Edward, I am highly disappointed whenever I hear about Edward II 🤦🏻♀️ bloody embarrassment mate....
She didn’t usurp him for her son. Her son would have become king regardless. She usurped him for herself which is why after parliament agreed on a council to rule with the king, she basically ignored it and became regent and ruled with her lover and used her son as a pawn. And that’s why she was imprisoned for 20 years and that’s why her lover who said he was more important than the king was executed. She literally could care less about her son. Too bad he wasn’t as weak as his father. She’d have executed Mortimer herself if she cared about her son. The guy literally said his word was more important than the kings. Instead she was conspiring with him to arrest Montagu for telling Edward what Mortimer said. You people are delusional about who this woman was. She used her son as a pawn to seize power. She never cared about her son. He just ended up being far stronger and more competent than his father OR mother and she paid for it with her lover and freedom.
@@nomercy3195 Well now I know why your username is what it is. 1. "You people"..? Okay, then. 2. Yes. His son would have become King but AFTER the elder Edward's death. She deposed him before his death which is considered a usurpation. Furthermore, it wasn't outlandish for the mother of the heir to rule as regent while her son was in his minority. The council gave her no reason whatsoever to trust them because they failed her and England on numerous occasions to do anything to put Edward in check. 3. No one is deluded about her, she was a strong women in a world ruled by men who had the audacity not to just be a baby making machine. Did she have any faults? Yes. There are aspects about her that can be considered highly manipulative and yet also demonised for not being a subservient, obedient wife. Calm down, sir ✋️
@@areiaaphrodite Give me a break. No she shouldn’t have ruled as regent after parliament literally agreed to making Edward II step down that there would be a council of clergymen and nobles to co-rule with Edward III. She simply didn’t care because she was as incompetent as Edward II in reality and did what ever she wanted. That’s why she only lasted three years before everyone was fine with Edward III imprisoning her and killing Mortimer because they were trash. No she wasn’t strong. She used her sons claim and the already long existing discontent with Edward II from the time of Galveston to his favoritism of the Despenser family. Once again why her and Mortimer were crushed easily within three years. And sorry but her conspiring with Mortimer to arrest Montagu after Mortimer told him he’s more important than the king aka HER son. Quite literally says everything that could be said about the power hungry bitch and how her son was nothing but a tool to her. Problem is he wasn’t as weak as his father or her and Mortimer.
Actually it was a common thing in the Middle Age to force the Jews to wear marks to identify them. It was not unusual. Besides, it isn't true that Edward I used the Jews as a scapegoat. Yes, he expelled them, but doing so he was following the trend common to Europe at that time.
Lots of places marked Jews and expelled them from cities, they had different laws apply to them when it came to professions and money and hence were unwelcome as outsiders
I live in Scarborough! The castle is still here but in ruins after WWII, there are pubs etc named after the royals. It’s pretty crazy standing in the ruins thinking about what happened there!
Why is she not depict in more dramas and movies with such eventful life other than the extremely fictional "brave heart". not to think i hate the movie i love that movie.
It’s a great movie to get the auld patriotic juices flowing but very historically inaccurate it’s actually a disgrace the way they portray the Bruce as a traitor
Did you know that Isabella's great-granddaughter Philippa Plantagenet, 5th Countess of Ulster married Roger Mortimer's great-grandson Edmund Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March, thus making Roger Mortimer an ancestor to the English Royal Family?
I am what many would call “a country girl” here in the Appalachian Mountains. I used to pick bugs off runner bean with my great grandfather and know how to deal with sheep and pigs, as well as cows stalled in the road. I watched my great grandmother behead a chicken we later ate for Sunday dinner. As it would turn out, when my aunt did family history, I am a descendent of Margaret Pole, a cousin of Henry 8th and daughter of George of York (the younger brother of Edward IV and older brother of Richard III)! Many say her father and brother should have been the legitimate King, as perhaps Edward IV may have a product of an affair by his mother (🤷♀️) and a soldier. Edward IV and Queen Elizabeth Woodville were her Aunt or Uncle (maybe). All of THIS was after Edward may have killed her father-his brother George York, Duke of Clarence (and her mother died). Her father kept trying to claim the throne (because Edward was supposedly illegitimate). He eventually got locked in The Tower and died. They SAY Margret’s father (George) was drowned in a vat of Malmsey wine (to piss off his sister in law). Her maternal Grandfather was Edward Plantagenet’s (Edward IV) older cousin (and helped put Henry IV on the throne during The War of the Roses and was known as a “King Maker”). Anyhow, had the illegitimate stuff been true... or proven (Edward IV not been legitimate, she would have been daughter/sister of the King and, because of her brother’s mental disability, her sons would have likely been his heirs. And she, perhaps, been his caretaker (her uncle Richard would have been his Regent). I know that there is enough evidence (of it being a rumor with the possibility of being true) that Tony Robinson did a special on it. He turned up on the door step of some guy in Australia telling him he was the rightful King of England (which is a major stretch). That guy is a distant cousin who lives in a middle class neighborhood a world away. Meanwhile, I grew up in a tiny town, worked my butt off to keep my scholarship to a public University here in America and teach Cherokee (Native American) kids...English Language and English History of all things (instead of going to Oxford or The University of Wales to study Medieval Studies ironically enough). Weird I would be so interested in that period (the War of the Ross and The Tudors) before I even knew the information. It was a dream of mine in college to do my Masters in Medieval History. The words I got from my family (when I brought it up) are “how are you going to afford that, we aren’t royalty.” This was not long before my aunt did family history 😂😂😂). 🤦🏼♀️. I haven’t let them forget it, either! Oh well. I love teaching “my kids.” Margret was executed by Henry VIII for trumped up charges-it was mainly for her being Plantagenet when she was a very old lady (and harmless). A younger son of a one of her ancestors (probably a younger son of a younger son of a noble) came to Virginia to make his way. Eventually one of his younger great great grandsons ended up here in the mountains. Henry VIII had no direct ancestors (legitimately) and yet Margret had 100s, if not 1000s, so take that your raving misogynistic narcissist , Henry!
@@MountainPearls Edward IV was not illegitimate, that was just a smear campaign so Richard iii could usurp the crown from his nephew. Richard Neville was the earl of Warwick the kingmaker that helped put Henry vi & Edward iv on the throne. That was the older cousin. There’s no way Cecily Neville had an affair, Richard duke of York was a proud man he wouldn’t have raised his wife’s bastard or left him everything in his will. It’s honestly a stupid rumour.
@@lyndsaycrawford It's not a rumor. There is some evidence behind the claim that Edward was illegitimate. Richard, Duke of York, was away on campaign and nowhere near Cecily when Edward would have been conceived. It's recorded in a register in Rouen Cathedral.
@@BabeeCocoa249 You cannot take a persons DOB & count 9months back & get their conception date. Doctors can’t even do that now, taken into consideration a pregnancy is anything between 37-42 weeks with babies arriving early & late all the time. Also those making the claim ignore that Pontoise the town Richard of York was laying siege to was only 57 miles from Rouen, where his headquarters in Rouen where his wife was living. In fact Cecily followed Richard everywhere. That’s the reason Therefore, Anne, Margaret, and Richard were born in England, Edward, Edmund, and Elizabeth were born in France, and George was born in Ireland. There was nothing sinister in this; the births of their children followed the Duke’s career.
I just want to fight him, but he’s not showing his ugly face. But if I had permission from my queen Catherine of Aragon, I would gladly lead a crusade to punch Henry and make him pay for all the bad stuff he did, especially to her majesty Catherine of Aragon and the other wives.
She is correctly called the rebel queen daring and intelligent without using her beauty as her strongest weapon winning and rulling the country and still few egg heads call female weak.but I would still be waiting for royal family of Punjab video😂😂😂😂😂😂
I really don’t know why this hasn’t been made into a television series!! The allure of the tudors I get, as they are so infamous to history but, material such as this deserves just as much attention! Rather than making up extra romances like they did in Reign (Kenna and bash, Lola and Stefan etc) you could give such time and attention to these living, breathing humans who had such mercurial lives and personalities! That I would adore to see! Also John of Gaunt and Katherine Swynford!! Epic!! 😊
@@obsessivefangirl5055 King Edward I of England aka Longshanks and King Robert the Bruce before he was crowned to be the king of Scotland after William Wallace was executed. U gotta watch The Outlaw King on Netflix. It was like part 2 of Braveheart & it was really good. ❤✌🏾
Fun fact, Isabella was a descendant of Harold Godwinson through his daughter Gytha of Wessex as she was a descendant of Andrew II of Hungary, Gytha's great-grandson through her son Mstislav the Great of Kiev, through his daughter Violant (Isabella's great-grandmother through her father Philip IV of France). So through her marriage to Edward II, Isabella brought the bloodline of Harold Godwinson back to the English royal family. Her daughter-in-law Philippa of Hainault is also a descendant of Violant of Hungary (she was Philippa's great-great-grandmother though her mother Joan of Valois) like her mother-in-law, so through them, Harold Godwinson is the ancestor of all English monarchs starting with Edward III of England and all British monarchs after the 1603 Union of the Crowns.
Another fun fact: Isabella of Castile also had Anglo-Saxon blood in her veins, from King Alfred the Great, one of the greatest English kings ever, through her direct descent from Edmund Ironside.
I've always found the story of Isabella somewhat sad. Unfairly labelled she wolf of France she was treated awfully. Thank you for this wonderful video.
I feel sorry for Both Isabella and Edward. Imagine all the disrespect Isabella had to endure. And imagine how hard it was for edward to be a medevil Gay king and on top of that they killed his lover.
@Cordelia Thompson yeah I agree, she was only 12 at the time, and she was somewhat okay with her husbands first lover, the second one was evil and did unspeakable things to her. And on top of that, Edward abused her many many times with the intent on making her weak and controllable. Good for her for taking revenge and standing up for herself and her children!
I think it was Edward fault for his taste for "bad boys" (basically a narcissist and a sociopath) and being a incompetent at his job. If he had some basic respect for Isabella, has better taste on men and try to rule fe would have died of old age in the throne
@@annstillwell730 Exactly! Frederick of Prussia was gay and is remembered as "the Great" for a reason, and at least let his wife has her own life. Alexander the Great was gay and create the biggest Empire of his time in ten years and defeated super power as Persia and Egypt. Philippe of Orleans (Louis XIV's brother) was gay, a very flamboyant gay, and he did such a great job in battle that his brother felt threatened and prohibited him another army for the rest of his life, has a great relationship with his second wife, and loved all his children. Hell even James VI was a competent monarch and even is he had a rocky relationship with his wife, it wasn't even a 10% of all the crap that Isabella went through. Edward was a self centered emotional idiot that only thinked with his second head and had not regards for other people.
I'm sorry for Edward that he was gay in a time when it was hard to be gay, and being born a crown prince when that clearly wasn't his natural skill set. But other than that, No. He was self-centered, foolish, and cruel. And has been said elsewhere: Had he been a better, kinder man, and been willing to listen to better advisors, he could have had his lover and still been a beloved king. Other men were able to do so.
It was an insult. She tried for so long to keep the piece with the king's lovers. She had morals and dignity to say enough is enough but that doesnt make her a wolf.
After doing serious work into my ancestry I found out she is my 20th great grandmother. I googled her to learn more and this video came up. Thank you so much! This was awesome.
Not strange at all; she was born the youngest of 4 children of Philip IV of France. She had 3 elder brothers who lived to adulthood; there was no need for everyone to keep their eye on her, as there was absolutely no expectation she or her descendants could ever succeed to the throne of France. Mind you, record of her birth was probably made somewhere; the document was just lost. It wasn't *widely* recorded since, as I said, her birth was not expected to be any great event.
Even Henry 8 had an uncertain birthdate being only the second son. You can see the crossing outs in her bible as his grandmother Margaret Beaufort wracked her brain trying to remember the date, after the heir prince Arthur died.
@@lynnebarnes3840 Yes, I had forgotten that little detail! One thing I'll add on, now that I remember, is that the English Barons did not keep particularly good track of their birth-years. Birth-days, perhaps, since they were celebrated annually (the anniversary on which one had been born, howevermany years in the past that was). For ex, we know Margaret Beaufort's birth-day, (the 31st of May), but not the exact year in which it happened (best guess is either 1441 or 1443). The reasons for this varies; one is the old-style/new-style debate. In England, it used to be dates were reckoned in the 'old-style' (the New Year began on March 25); while later on the 'new-style' was adopted (w/ the New Year beginning on Jan 1). Sometimes if you see 2 different birth-dates, it's b/c one person has converted the 'old-style' date into the 'new-style' & one person has kept the 'old-style' date intact. The other reason is that how old you were wasn't actually that important, all things considered. What *was* important was being of legal age; if an heir to an estate was not of-age, then they could not marry; wardships & guardianships had to be settled; who collected the rent on that land until the heir came of age had to be determined, etc. However, once you actually came 'of age' there was no real reason to keep track of your age anymore. Once you were of age, you could marry as you pleased, own land, etc. There were no 'retirement benefits' in the Medieval period, so adding more years on that number didn't provide any benefit. Thus, many ppl. simply lost track of their ages. If their guardians & close family attested that they were of-age, then that was all that mattered, legally-speaking.
@@jeandehuit5385 Perhaps that is partly why Debretts came into being, to keep track of the peerage and keep it be all in order. They used to send my mother letters asking for the names be and dates of new additions to the family, way out here in the colonies, NewZealand. They stopped writing, weather it was because she didn't respond or because it's all so much easier with computers and more efficient record keeping me now, I don't know.
I just rewatched this because she’s my favorite queen consort. I didn’t pick this up before about her request to be buried with Edward’s heart. I knew this was done but I didn’t know it’s because she asked for it. A boss right until death. She got his heart finally in death when she couldn’t get it in life.
This channel feels like such a calm place compared to the other chaotic videos on this site. It is my favorite to listen to while I cook! Tonight’s meal is caldo de pollo 🍲 😊
No one at the time seemed to care that he liked boys. The problem was not only was he a shity king, but treated Isabella like a cow to be breed, sexually, emotional, and mentally abused her with his boy friends. He very well could have had a healthy relationship with Isabelle if he had chosen to. But a way from that. Sexuality matter in monarchs.
So sorry I haven’t been here, my family recently moved and we had to wait for internet ;( but I don’t know what it is about medieval history that I adore so much ;o
Isabella of France. They called her the She-wolf. Which means she pantsed the men around her in terms of intelligence and ability. An icon for the ages. Long may she be remembered.
They called her a wolf because back then wolves were seen as traitorous, conniving, greedy and, in the case of she-wolves, promiscuous. It certainly wasn’t a compliment. It was the equivalent of calling someone a manipulative lying whore, which is a reputation that she didn’t deserve but nevertheless she had
Isabella was strong & intelligent like her Mom... She wanted a healthy, loving, respectful marriage like that of her parents... When Edward didn't give her that after 2 decades, the 🌋 that was Isabella erupted!!!! Hell has no fury like a woman scorned...
It's nice to finally see her being portrayed more fairly; she's always (with the exception of only one documentary) portrayed very negatively as the typical manipulative, grasping woman who was a murderous adulteress who betrayed her husband out of lust for power. Her suffering is rarely mentioned and we don't often see her side of the story or why she did it.
Because she doesn’t deserve sympathy. She supported her lover over her son. Mortimer very clearly told Montagu that his word was more important than the king HER SON. And what does she do? Does she punish Mortimer? Does she leave Mortimer for threatening her sons rule? No she conspires with Mortimer to arrest Montagu because she saw her son the same way Mortimer did, as a pawn for their little love nest to rule. Well unfortunately for her Edward III wasn’t Edward II. You people just want to feminist wash history and pretend she was this great ruler and strong woman. She used her sons claim and the already existing discontent over Edward II’s favoritism of the Despenser family which basically had people coming out in droves to support her sons claim, NOT HERS. Her son did nothing to deserve her betrayal and he was a better leader than her, her husband or Mortimer put together. If Mortimer and her had a son I guarantee she’d have tried to put her bastard on the throne.
@@nomercy3195 As soon as you said "You people just want to feminist wash history" I knew polite debate would be thrown out the window. Me, a feminist? You think I'm crazy enough to think women are equal to men? Haha, you're having a laugh. No. I feel sorry for her due to how badly she was treated by her husband despite the children she bore him (and by doing so suffered pain and risked her life) she even risked her life for him on other occassions for political reasons. She was by all means a loyal and obediant wife to a husband who had forsaken her for many years, only to suffer indignation at his hands, and betrayal. Of course I'll have sympathy for her. And if she's bad for taking a lover, then so are all kings who did the same, including Edward II.
Isabella’s story is one of: never underestimate the power of a woman. She didn’t put up with Edward II’s behavior with his favorites. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned
I feel for Edward - his intense love for Pierre and the tragic end of their relationship is heart-breaking! As a bi woman deeply in love with my wife, I can certainly empathise with the want to seek violent revenge on the homophobic warmongers who murdered the man he loved. But he was incredibly stupid over Despenser and an absolute dick for allowing Isabella to be treated that way when she'd done no wrong to him. He should've stayed loyal to her and been more clever about getting back at the murderers; he dug his own grave.
According to records he wasn't that great of a person and neither was Galveston, but that could be skewed as we were not there. People in history are a product of their time, and homosexuality was against what they thought to be truth. That part is unfortunate.
In that time royalty and nobles could not marry for love. Marriages were for alliances between families and dynasties and sides. Even if the homosexual marriage had been allowed, it would not have been allowed because the marriage was not a profitable alliance for the prince then king.
@@eastlynburkholder3559I know it would have been impossible for them to be together even if gay marriage was legal, that has nothing to do with what I said. I was just expressing empathy for a man who yes, was a bad king and epically screwed up running his country, but lost the love of his life in such a cruel and violent way. And even though his marriage to Isabella was political, there was no need to treat her so callously.
@@dawnrobbins7066 Well, my point was gay or straight or bi, being of royal blood or just of noble blood, they were not allowed to just have sex as persons in lower ranks might have been able to do. Of, course fertile females who had illegitimate babies had problems whether of noble birth or not. Speaking of different times, in certain parts of the future USA, a woman with child was alright having a pre-mature baby born earlier than 9 months after the marriage as long as some man stepped up and claimed the responsibility for raising up,the child. At this time one of the duties if the midwives was to ask while the woman was in childbirth pain who was the father of the child so he could be pressured or forced by the community to support the child.
Yeah, she was gorgeous. I think that the Braveheart movie, inaccurate as it was, is a nice introduction to the circumstances of Isabella. It made me want to read up and eventually see this video. There's also good coverage of her in the YT video on Edward II.
Dear Caro, don't rely on the pictures. They are either posterior to Isabella, or conventional representations. In the middle age, nobody cared for resemblance between a living person and his portrait. The search for resemblance started nearly 200 years later. So, we can only rely on writings if we want to know how Isabella was. According to the people who knew her and wrote about her, she was known for her beauty, that is true. But you will never see a "true" portrait of her 🙂
*Isabella In a nutshell* Isabella: Ok my husband is gay and I will support his relationship with Gaveston if he only borrows me so we can have heirs Gaveston: Agree Isabella: Good now don't make the nobles go crazy again Gaveston: Alright *Not even a year* Edward II: No Gaveston Isabella: Don't worry Eddie now that we have a child on the way cheer up I think Gaveston wants to see you happy Edward II: Ok *Years Later* Isabella: WTF Edward II: I will kill the nobles who took away my Gaveston Despensers: Yes do that and declare war on France Edward II: Yes and declare war on France Isabella: That is it I'm going to France with my son and we are staying there until we have planned so he can be king. Gaveston in the Afterlife: WTF Edward you are making Isabella going into misery than ever. After Edward II cruel death Isabella: He finally got Karma after making my life hell Edward III: Because he was gay mom Isabella: No not totally that HE WAS THE WORST KING
Llewelyn ap Gruffudd is the name of the Welsh Prince who died when Edward 1st conquered Wales I'm a decendent of Llewelyn through my grandmothers family the Anwyls which my great grandfather was from. Awesome video I love history!! ❤
She's my 23rd great grandmother also. John of Gaunt and Kathryn Swinford were my 21st great grandfather and grandmother. Their son Cardinal Henry Beaufort was my 20th great grandfather
At 17:50 A small correction: Edward III, the son of Edward II and Isabella, died in 1377 at the age of 64. Edward II died in 1327. He was 43 years old. You mistook father and son ... smile ...
@@danaglabeman6919 Many saw it. That's the only flaw I saw. Looked up everyone's dates and able to make sense of it all. Small flaw in an excellent video.
Despite her young age when she arrived in England, Isabella was known for being very proud of what she was. Not only her cleverness and her beauty, but also her origins. She was the daughter of the king of France, the most powerful kingdom at this time (well, things turned quite bad for the country at the end of this century lol), and she had a very high opinion of who she was. No wonder why Piers Gaveston got so quickly on her nerves lol
@@SungSNam True but, I didn’t arrange most of them, I died before some of them. And- I get it, but I tried convincing them to see who matched their personality, and someone that they liked, but I don’t want them marrying peasants with not good ranks. I want the best for my children, thank you.
@TSZ YIN WONG Yes.. it was absolutely horrible! All of you are so lucky to know more about these horrible diseases then how we used to think back then.
Yay! I’m so happy your going to make videos about the female and male consorts of England! I actually suggested doing this in a previous video but I never imagined you would actually do it! Thank you so much... can’t wait!
I love Lindsay's videos too! I've also wanted a video about Isabela. Another video I think would be be interesting is a video about Vlad The Impaler (Dracula) or a video about Queen Elizabth ii great-grandchildren, cuz Lindsay did the queens children and grandchildren.
YESS! I’m so excited too! Praise her!
@@jamescharcoal3472 thyroid fever was nice wasn't it?
I've been bugging shamelessly bugging Lindsey about videos on the 2 "She-Wolfs of France" (Isabella and Margaret d'Anjou, Henry the 6ths wife) I'm SO grateful, I never understood why Isabella was considered a "she-wolf" although Margaret of Anjou I can kinda see why she would be considered...She-Wolfy (is that a word? Lol) It seems more like Isabella was less of a 'she-wolf' and just genuinely tried to rule her kingdom. Edward II was more like a "He-Lamb" lol of England. Isabella gets a bad rap that is most def undeserved in my opinion.
Also it sounds like The Third Reich lifted/copied Edward's persecution of Jews complete with forcing them to wear the Star of David on their clothes then blaming,persecuting, banishing, murdering and stealing from them🤤 😓😔
Thank you Lindsay SO much for these videos !! Perhaps videos explaining the Cousins War/Wars of The Roses next??? Maybe ? Please pretty please🤞
@@Randomuser-u2o Me too!! Her videos are my ASMR videos, but also extremely educational
They called her the she-wolf as an insult. HAH! Little did they know, it just made her sound even cooler!!!
One of my ancestors spent a year in the tower of London for assaulting this queen. I like to think she was dragged away screaming "worth it".
@@nemeceka Damn... that's wild!! Very cool that you know that though, & I'm sure she was definitely thinking "Worth it" 😉
True! In the attempt to disgrace her they made her sound an even greater bad ass 😬
Lol what were Christopher marlowe and Shakespeare thinking when they decide to call her like that XD
Agreee
Me at 12: watching Barbie movies
Isabella at 12: married and a queen trying to make her marriage work.
Poor girl that queen.
ROFL
sounds like england had 3 quens
I know crazy right! I guess life expectancy wasn't that long so they started everything very young. Sad no childhood
@@haydeecolon7868 ... and yet, somehow, she held herself together, her head held high, and managed to do the best that she could, for herself, and for the people that she ruled. I truly have no pity for her poor excuse of a "Husband", & I was glad when he was disposed of. I know that things didn't altogether turn out as she had planned, but, in later years, she seemingly made up for it. Even the best-intentioned people can be led astray, and do evil, but if they turn aside from their evil, make things right with God, and go back to doing good, then that person's life is still not in vain. She was definitely a very strong Woman, and a very strong Queen!
Dang! This woman was a badass. Enduring an emotionally abusive marriage, possible sexual assault and life long humiliation. I'm surprised she didn't choke Edward II in his sleep lol. Still, she is truly an inspiration.
If it was me with my anger issues , i would do that
Yeah too bad she was emotionally abusive towards her son and betrayed him for her lover. But I guess that’s why Mortimer ended up dead and she ended up on house arrest for 20 years.
“Fair son, have pity on gentle Mortimer!”
😂 🤣 the great she wolf on her knees begging a teenager. Her and Mortimer were just as incapable rulers as Edward II. Her greatest contribution to England was laying on her back and pushing Edward III out her vagina.
@@imasimpforalbedoandidontknowhy love your username btw lol
@@TheBoyNextWorld1996 thank you
Ikr!!! This woman was cunning and fascinating, and she was a good mother too, her children loved her. Admirable how she kept it all together in terrible circumstances she was put in and knew how to play her cards right.
I always wish we could have actual pictures of the old royals to compare with their portraits, since the painters were sometimes a little more flattering than accurate. Obviously not an option back then, but it would be cool.
a lot more* lol
Not like photoshop now, eh?
Best we can do are those facial reconstructions. Those are fascinating to me.
@@roove1537 They ARE pretty awesome. And a really skilled artist? They do such a bang up job. It would be so cool if the Royal family would just let them all be reconstructed. Then we would REALLY know what say, Isabella and Edward II looked like. A history geeks dream. Oh well.
So are filters..
You ever been so mad you had to take a walk to get some fresh air... for 10 months?
Yeah. Been that upset but couldn't afford a 10 month break.
Lol yeah I can't afford that 10month break so I just go to my local bar have two beers and a dirty martini and come back home with a smile and happy face lol 🤣🤣
I imagine that some people get so mad, that they take off, in order to cool off...and never return to the people that made them mad in the first place! Been there, done that, and I'm not one bit sorry for walking away from an impossible person, and an impossible situation! It happens!
Maybe her pilgrimage around England wasn't just to get some fresh air. It would have been a good excuse to get in touch with enemies of her husband, and try to work up some support to overthrow him.
I left for 2 months once
Can you imagine?
Edward I: Son, as my dying wish, take my heart and bones unto the battlefield so that I may vanquish my enemies.
Edward II: No.
Edward II: Fine. I'll do it a few years.
Edward I: *sigh* I'll take it *dies*
Edward: But my boyfriend is back in town
😂😂😂
@@Kittykat81572 my boyfriend’s back and he is cooler than ever
Isabella of France Catherine the Great
🤝
Overthrowing their useless husbands
She was pretty useless herself unlike Catherine. She lasted three years before her son put her on house arrest for 20 years because her and Mortimer weren’t very capable themselves. Her greatest contribution to England was pushing Edward III out her vagina quite literally. But hey, at least her son didn’t kill her like her lover even though she betrayed him for her lover. Even though she was a backstabbing bitch the son still loved her I guess or maybe letting her live after killing the man she betrayed him for was an even better punishment than death 😈
Unfortunately not. Catherine was very accomplished. Reason: Catherine got rid of her husband much sooner as she had the help of many noble boyfriends and she knew well how to use them. True, Isabella still was quite impressive.
Literally tho
Useless is better than destructive. It would have been better for millions of people including my own if she had never been born.
Isabella of France Me
🤝
TFG
I’m glad you covered Isabella of France! I feel like when it comes to great Queens of European history, we always mention Isabella of Castile, Elizabeth the First, Victoria, Maria Theresa, etc. but Isabella of France did remarkable things and doesn’t get enough recognition in my opinion
Neither does Catherine of Aragon, wife of Henry viii. For example Queen Catherine led a battle against the Scots and won. The pope gave her the title in her own right as Defender of the Faith.
Isabella was bad-ass!
I've read several history books that covered Isabella. She's never portrayed very well. Your video gave much more insight to why she might have been "tough." I think I have a much better understanding now. Thanks as always!
@@margaretlavender9647 thanks for calling this out.
How is she usually portrayed?
@@AmyHoldaway27 she’s often portrayed as a power hungry schemer.
@@toddbonin6926 ohhhh, I see
Lesson to be learned from Isabella's story: NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF A WOMAN
YEAH!!!!
Yes 🙌
Oooooooor don't treat a Ally like garbage that she/he takes over your kingdom
Her young son was a pawn. The nobles aligned behind the young son and Queen Isabella. However a q3 year old was going to ruling Engkand only in name.
Definetly! This Woman had more guts and strength in the tip of her little pinky, than her so-called "Husband" had in his entire body!
At least none of her children died early.
She was a lucky one
agree
Very rare for the time.
She made sure they didn't. She took control.
@@jamieyoho2310 if God says it's your time to die, then no amount of "human control" can stop that.
Such a badass woman. From child bride to awesome rebel queen. Her enemies messed with the wrong Frenchwoman.
she is goals
Of course she was gonna do what she had to do. Her husband was horrible in every sense!
She endured everything until they went after her kids. U dont mess with a mother.
She had kind of a happy ending.
@@jamieyoho2310 That's what I was thinking.
No one could blame her, I sure wouldn't have!
Yeah, they got between a mother bear and her cubs; sealed Eddie's fate. I can understand a lot of what Isabella did. She got stuck in an arranged loveless marriage with a loser. She's smart, learned, beautiful and probably more. Her dad and brother were among the richest, most powerful men in the world. What's such a woman going to do when a guy she actually digs shows up in the ballroom on Friday night in Paris. I get it, Isabella.
I do appreciate your more balanced portrayal as Isabella is often discounted after she is deposed by her son. Idc who you are, if you actually hated a person, you wouldn't want to be buried with any part of them. Or maybe it was her version of hell for him ... he refused to love her, so she took his heart anyway lol
I love that idea. Thats how I would end the movie lol
Definitely think it was her idea of hell for him. Hell hath no fury... well you know how it goes 😆
I think it was her version of hell for him. Personally speaking, I don't see this move as a sign of her affection for him. More like, I hold your heart captive so no one else can.
The ultimate power move
This needs to be a movie/tv show my god. THIS STORY IS INSANE
True stories usually are anyways.
Brave Heart
She’s one of the main heroines in Braveheart
Actually, in France they made two versions of TV series the books of Maurice Druon The Accursed Kings, in which Isabella is one of the main protagonists, it covers her life from the age of 21 to the moment when she was overthrown by her son. You can find these series with English subtitles.
When you said that Isabella expected her marriage would be like that of her parents', I couldn't help thinking she was just born a generation too late. Edward I was very much like Isabella's father, a strong ruler with an iron fist and also completely devoted to his wife...
When your version of “taking a walk to cool down” needs to be a full pilgrimage, it’s time to end the relationship. Such a compelling history!
Isabella is one of the most interesting Queen consorts to me, I remember her from the Cursed King books series. Now I want to know even more of Joan, Isabelle’s mother.
Can’t wait for the new series to air
Who wrote The Cursed King series? I never heard of it. I’m a total dork, and always on the lookout for new books. Thank you for your help and time.😎👍
@@ChibiProwl It's by Maurice Druon; it's a French series, although all the volumes have been translated into English. It was written in the 1960s, so it is a bit dated now (both in terms of historical accuracy & just trope-wise in general; there's stuff we know now we didn't know in 1960, & there's stuff we knew in 1960 that Druon ignored anyway).
It's main 'claim-to-fame' these days is as one of the chief inspirations of George RR Martin's 'A Song of Ice & Fire' fantasy novels (adapted into the better-known Game of Thrones TV show). I've read the 1st vol. or 2. It's alright; you can definitely see where Martin got Cersei & Tywin Lannister (plus a hint of Stannis Baratheon).
I've since become disillusioned w/ ASOIAF (both the show & the books) so I'm not sure if I'd recommend it; Accursed Kings is really similar. Portrayal of women is... kinda iffy. It plays the whole 'Tour de Nesle' affair completely straight, for ex.
@@jeandehuit5385 Thank you! I might check it out anyway.
@@ChibiProwl Cursed Kings is a series of books about french kings by Maurice Druon
Isabella is actually one of the favourite Queens of both me and my mother. I like how in a time when women were supposed to simply accept whatever injustice was dealt to them by their husbands, Isabella decided that she wasn't going to roll over and take it with a smile. She fought for herself and usurped a weak King for her son because she knew he'd be a better King.
Fun Fact: I am actually a descendant of Edward Longshanks (Hammer of The Scots), and like the senior Edward, I am highly disappointed whenever I hear about Edward II 🤦🏻♀️ bloody embarrassment mate....
vive la France .
She didn’t usurp him for her son. Her son would have become king regardless. She usurped him for herself which is why after parliament agreed on a council to rule with the king, she basically ignored it and became regent and ruled with her lover and used her son as a pawn.
And that’s why she was imprisoned for 20 years and that’s why her lover who said he was more important than the king was executed. She literally could care less about her son. Too bad he wasn’t as weak as his father. She’d have executed Mortimer herself if she cared about her son. The guy literally said his word was more important than the kings. Instead she was conspiring with him to arrest Montagu for telling Edward what Mortimer said.
You people are delusional about who this woman was. She used her son as a pawn to seize power. She never cared about her son. He just ended up being far stronger and more competent than his father OR mother and she paid for it with her lover and freedom.
@@nomercy3195 Well now I know why your username is what it is.
1. "You people"..? Okay, then.
2. Yes. His son would have become King but AFTER the elder Edward's death. She deposed him before his death which is considered a usurpation. Furthermore, it wasn't outlandish for the mother of the heir to rule as regent while her son was in his minority. The council gave her no reason whatsoever to trust them because they failed her and England on numerous occasions to do anything to put Edward in check.
3. No one is deluded about her, she was a strong women in a world ruled by men who had the audacity not to just be a baby making machine. Did she have any faults? Yes. There are aspects about her that can be considered highly manipulative and yet also demonised for not being a subservient, obedient wife.
Calm down, sir ✋️
@@areiaaphrodite Give me a break. No she shouldn’t have ruled as regent after parliament literally agreed to making Edward II step down that there would be a council of clergymen and nobles to co-rule with Edward III. She simply didn’t care because she was as incompetent as Edward II in reality and did what ever she wanted. That’s why she only lasted three years before everyone was fine with Edward III imprisoning her and killing Mortimer because they were trash.
No she wasn’t strong. She used her sons claim and the already long existing discontent with Edward II from the time of Galveston to his favoritism of the Despenser family. Once again why her and Mortimer were crushed easily within three years. And sorry but her conspiring with Mortimer to arrest Montagu after Mortimer told him he’s more important than the king aka HER son. Quite literally says everything that could be said about the power hungry bitch and how her son was nothing but a tool to her. Problem is he wasn’t as weak as his father or her and Mortimer.
@@nomercy3195 Riiiiiiight... yep, careful, your misogyny is showing. You and I have no further conversation/debate to be had. Good day.
Edward I forced the Jews to wear Yellow Stars...ok wow. Besides Hitler I never knew this had been done before. You are the best historian, really🤩
Yeah the Third Reich basically just lifted and copied Edward 2's whole...murderous, genocidal, and cruel "policy" regarding those of the Jewish race
Actually it was a common thing in the Middle Age to force the Jews to wear marks to identify them. It was not unusual. Besides, it isn't true that Edward I used the Jews as a scapegoat. Yes, he expelled them, but doing so he was following the trend common to Europe at that time.
Lots of places marked Jews and expelled them from cities, they had different laws apply to them when it came to professions and money and hence were unwelcome as outsiders
I'd like to know where these sources are from. Bibliography? 🤔...be an interesting read..
They stole the swastika too.
Isabela probably:
"This is my husband and this is his boyfriend"
and this is my boyfriend
I live in Scarborough! The castle is still here but in ruins after WWII, there are pubs etc named after the royals. It’s pretty crazy standing in the ruins thinking about what happened there!
Why is she not depict in more dramas and movies with such eventful life other than the extremely fictional "brave heart". not to think i hate the movie i love that movie.
It’s a great movie to get the auld patriotic juices flowing but very historically inaccurate it’s actually a disgrace the way they portray the Bruce as a traitor
I hate that movie. Another mega-ego trip for Mel Gibson, like the "Patriot."
Mortimer: Edward the 2nd, am I right?
Isabella: He’s my husband, but yeah, I hate that man!
Another intresting queen that we needed to know more about.
Yup, I agree
fer sher
Parcast has a good podcast about her on Spotify. Its in their dictators series
@@foreverchasingsky8976 i dont use spotify for podcasts. Im avle to know better were im at on youtube. Besides i prefere documenteries on youtube
You can watch Dan Jones series on the Plantagenets, episode 2
Did you know that Isabella's great-granddaughter Philippa Plantagenet, 5th Countess of Ulster married Roger Mortimer's great-grandson Edmund Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March, thus making Roger Mortimer an ancestor to the English Royal Family?
Thanks for sharing..At least something good bonds the 2 lovers after all.
I am what many would call “a country girl” here in the Appalachian Mountains. I used to pick bugs off runner bean with my great grandfather and know how to deal with sheep and pigs, as well as cows stalled in the road. I watched my great grandmother behead a chicken we later ate for Sunday dinner. As it would turn out, when my aunt did family history, I am a descendent of Margaret Pole, a cousin of Henry 8th and daughter of George of York (the younger brother of Edward IV and older brother of Richard III)! Many say her father and brother should have been the legitimate King, as perhaps Edward IV may have a product of an affair by his mother (🤷♀️) and a soldier. Edward IV and Queen Elizabeth Woodville were her Aunt or Uncle (maybe). All of THIS was after Edward may have killed her father-his brother George York, Duke of Clarence (and her mother died). Her father kept trying to claim the throne (because Edward was supposedly illegitimate). He eventually got locked in The Tower and died. They SAY Margret’s father (George) was drowned in a vat of Malmsey wine (to piss off his sister in law). Her maternal Grandfather was Edward Plantagenet’s (Edward IV) older cousin (and helped put Henry IV on the throne during The War of the Roses and was known as a “King Maker”). Anyhow, had the illegitimate stuff been true... or proven (Edward IV not been legitimate, she would have been daughter/sister of the King and, because of her brother’s mental disability, her sons would have likely been his heirs. And she, perhaps, been his caretaker (her uncle Richard would have been his Regent). I know that there is enough evidence (of it being a rumor with the possibility of being true) that Tony Robinson did a special on it. He turned up on the door step of some guy in Australia telling him he was the rightful King of England (which is a major stretch). That guy is a distant cousin who lives in a middle class neighborhood a world away. Meanwhile, I grew up in a tiny town, worked my butt off to keep my scholarship to a public University here in America and teach Cherokee (Native American) kids...English Language and English History of all things (instead of going to Oxford or The University of Wales to study Medieval Studies ironically enough). Weird I would be so interested in that period (the War of the Ross and The Tudors) before I even knew the information. It was a dream of mine in college to do my Masters in Medieval History. The words I got from my family (when I brought it up) are “how are you going to afford that, we aren’t royalty.” This was not long before my aunt did family history 😂😂😂). 🤦🏼♀️. I haven’t let them forget it, either! Oh well. I love teaching “my kids.” Margret was executed by Henry VIII for trumped up charges-it was mainly for her being Plantagenet when she was a very old lady (and harmless). A younger son of a one of her ancestors (probably a younger son of a younger son of a noble) came to Virginia to make his way. Eventually one of his younger great great grandsons ended up here in the mountains. Henry VIII had no direct ancestors (legitimately) and yet Margret had 100s, if not 1000s, so take that your raving misogynistic narcissist , Henry!
@@MountainPearls Edward IV was not illegitimate, that was just a smear campaign so Richard iii could usurp the crown from his nephew. Richard Neville was the earl of Warwick the kingmaker that helped put Henry vi & Edward iv on the throne. That was the older cousin. There’s no way Cecily Neville had an affair, Richard duke of York was a proud man he wouldn’t have raised his wife’s bastard or left him everything in his will. It’s honestly a stupid rumour.
@@lyndsaycrawford It's not a rumor. There is some evidence behind the claim that Edward was illegitimate. Richard, Duke of York, was away on campaign and nowhere near Cecily when Edward would have been conceived. It's recorded in a register in Rouen Cathedral.
@@BabeeCocoa249 You cannot take a persons DOB & count 9months back & get their conception date. Doctors can’t even do that now, taken into consideration a pregnancy is anything between 37-42 weeks with babies arriving early & late all the time. Also those making the claim ignore that Pontoise the town Richard of York was laying siege to was only 57 miles from Rouen, where his headquarters in Rouen where his wife was living. In fact Cecily followed Richard everywhere. That’s the reason Therefore, Anne, Margaret, and Richard were born in England, Edward, Edmund, and Elizabeth were born in France, and George was born in Ireland. There was nothing sinister in this; the births of their children followed the Duke’s career.
Why do they always wanted to invade my homeland? Being invaded sucks!
Hello Her Majesty Queen Mary of Scots
Hello your majesty, it’s me, I think it’s official royal mediator Kaiya. Your video is coming soon right? Congratulations!!!!🎉
@@speedy806 Hello Speedy! Greetings from Scotland!
@@SungSNam Hi there Kaiya! Yes, Lindsey told me that my video is coming very soon. I can't wait to find out rumors about me. 😂
@@maryqueenofscots2511 yeah, I don’t know too much about you so I’m eager to learn more!
She SLAYED the St. George's Feast of 1358... I know she showed everyone there up. I know someone left mad about it
Isabella showing up with an Army: I am extremely sick of these jerks
The English general populace: BIG MOOD
Oh I wish I was that adventurous, I would have lead a crusade against Henry
Same! I hacked into his account. ;)
He might be my grandson and all, but I must say, would’ve been fun to watch
I just want to fight him, but he’s not showing his ugly face. But if I had permission from my queen Catherine of Aragon, I would gladly lead a crusade to punch Henry and make him pay for all the bad stuff he did, especially to her majesty Catherine of Aragon and the other wives.
@@SungSNam Do it.
@@ianbat7092 OH YEAH! OH YEAH! I HAVE HER MAJESTIES PERMISSION! SO NOW I CAN LEAD A CRUSADE TO FIGHT HENRY! (Dances)
I like to call her the OG Cersei
@@KezzDaddy I was thinking that to, but I thought of Cersei cause of the Lover and murdering the husband part
isn't cersei based more on margaret of anjou?
No no cercei is evil, queen Isabella only did the right thing for Her, Her son and the people 🙏🏻
Visenya Targaryen? Or maybe a successful Rhaenyra Targaryen?
@@trueblueedits4673 okay yes! I totally forgot about Visenya. She was my favourite of the three too 😂
She is correctly called the rebel queen daring and intelligent without using her beauty as her strongest weapon winning and rulling the country and still few egg heads call female weak.but I would still be waiting for royal family of Punjab video😂😂😂😂😂😂
I really don’t know why this hasn’t been made into a television series!! The allure of the tudors I get, as they are so infamous to history but, material such as this deserves just as much attention! Rather than making up extra romances like they did in Reign (Kenna and bash, Lola and Stefan etc) you could give such time and attention to these living, breathing humans who had such mercurial lives and personalities! That I would adore to see! Also John of Gaunt and Katherine Swynford!! Epic!! 😊
"Les Rois Maudits"
TV series? Do u have 80 years old ?
why hasn’t this been made into a tv series😭 the dinner they had brought to life would honestly be comedic gold
I would've much rather watched this than Braveheart. This sounds wild.
😂
It could make a captivating mini series!
who were the main English and Scottish kings in braveheart?
Right!
@@obsessivefangirl5055 King Edward I of England aka Longshanks and King Robert the Bruce before he was crowned to be the king of Scotland after William Wallace was executed. U gotta watch The Outlaw King on Netflix. It was like part 2 of Braveheart & it was really good. ❤✌🏾
Fun fact, Isabella was a descendant of Harold Godwinson through his daughter Gytha of Wessex as she was a descendant of Andrew II of Hungary, Gytha's great-grandson through her son Mstislav the Great of Kiev, through his daughter Violant (Isabella's great-grandmother through her father Philip IV of France). So through her marriage to Edward II, Isabella brought the bloodline of Harold Godwinson back to the English royal family. Her daughter-in-law Philippa of Hainault is also a descendant of Violant of Hungary (she was Philippa's great-great-grandmother though her mother Joan of Valois) like her mother-in-law, so through them, Harold Godwinson is the ancestor of all English monarchs starting with Edward III of England and all British monarchs after the 1603 Union of the Crowns.
Another fun fact: Isabella of Castile also had Anglo-Saxon blood in her veins, from King Alfred the Great, one of the greatest English kings ever, through her direct descent from Edmund Ironside.
I've always found the story of Isabella somewhat sad. Unfairly labelled she wolf of France she was treated awfully. Thank you for this wonderful video.
She murdered her husband and tried to usurp her son who was the rightful heir to throne.
Unfairly?. She murdered her husband.
Why is this not a movie? I love that she was able to get her revenge, but she was so strong and fierce.
I feel sorry for Both Isabella and Edward. Imagine all the disrespect Isabella had to endure. And imagine how hard it was for edward to be a medevil Gay king and on top of that they killed his lover.
@Cordelia Thompson yeah I agree, she was only 12 at the time, and she was somewhat okay with her husbands first lover, the second one was evil and did unspeakable things to her. And on top of that, Edward abused her many many times with the intent on making her weak and controllable. Good for her for taking revenge and standing up for herself and her children!
I think it was Edward fault for his taste for "bad boys" (basically a narcissist and a sociopath) and being a incompetent at his job. If he had some basic respect for Isabella, has better taste on men and try to rule fe would have died of old age in the throne
No he was a bad king. You can be gay or whatever and be a good person and leader. He was all about himself.
@@annstillwell730 Exactly! Frederick of Prussia was gay and is remembered as "the Great" for a reason, and at least let his wife has her own life. Alexander the Great was gay and create the biggest Empire of his time in ten years and defeated super power as Persia and Egypt. Philippe of Orleans (Louis XIV's brother) was gay, a very flamboyant gay, and he did such a great job in battle that his brother felt threatened and prohibited him another army for the rest of his life, has a great relationship with his second wife, and loved all his children. Hell even James VI was a competent monarch and even is he had a rocky relationship with his wife, it wasn't even a 10% of all the crap that Isabella went through. Edward was a self centered emotional idiot that only thinked with his second head and had not regards for other people.
I'm sorry for Edward that he was gay in a time when it was hard to be gay, and being born a crown prince when that clearly wasn't his natural skill set. But other than that,
No. He was self-centered, foolish, and cruel.
And has been said elsewhere:
Had he been a better, kinder man, and been willing to listen to better advisors, he could have had his lover and still been a beloved king. Other men were able to do so.
It was an insult. She tried for so long to keep the piece with the king's lovers. She had morals and dignity to say enough is enough but that doesnt make her a wolf.
After doing serious work into my ancestry I found out she is my 20th great grandmother. I googled her to learn more and this video came up. Thank you so much! This was awesome.
She was so badass, that even at the end she kept his heart, to show that no matter how many lovers he had, he belonged to her.
Lindsey please do a video about Margaret Beaufort she was such a strong woman. And it would be so cool to see that ❤️🏴🌹
Yep!
Braveheart wasn't even this interesting. At least Queen Isabella got her "FREEDOOOOOM!!!* in the end
William Wallace got his justice!
@@cecererei Even though there was no justice for William Wallace to have.
It is very strange how being born a princess we do not know the date of her brith.
Not strange at all; she was born the youngest of 4 children of Philip IV of France. She had 3 elder brothers who lived to adulthood; there was no need for everyone to keep their eye on her, as there was absolutely no expectation she or her descendants could ever succeed to the throne of France.
Mind you, record of her birth was probably made somewhere; the document was just lost. It wasn't *widely* recorded since, as I said, her birth was not expected to be any great event.
Even Henry 8 had an uncertain birthdate being only the second son. You can see the crossing outs in her bible as his grandmother Margaret Beaufort wracked her brain trying to remember the date, after the heir prince Arthur died.
@@lynnebarnes3840 Yes, I had forgotten that little detail!
One thing I'll add on, now that I remember, is that the English Barons did not keep particularly good track of their birth-years.
Birth-days, perhaps, since they were celebrated annually (the anniversary on which one had been born, howevermany years in the past that was). For ex, we know Margaret Beaufort's birth-day, (the 31st of May), but not the exact year in which it happened (best guess is either 1441 or 1443).
The reasons for this varies; one is the old-style/new-style debate. In England, it used to be dates were reckoned in the 'old-style' (the New Year began on March 25); while later on the 'new-style' was adopted (w/ the New Year beginning on Jan 1). Sometimes if you see 2 different birth-dates, it's b/c one person has converted the 'old-style' date into the 'new-style' & one person has kept the 'old-style' date intact.
The other reason is that how old you were wasn't actually that important, all things considered. What *was* important was being of legal age; if an heir to an estate was not of-age, then they could not marry; wardships & guardianships had to be settled; who collected the rent on that land until the heir came of age had to be determined, etc.
However, once you actually came 'of age' there was no real reason to keep track of your age anymore. Once you were of age, you could marry as you pleased, own land, etc. There were no 'retirement benefits' in the Medieval period, so adding more years on that number didn't provide any benefit.
Thus, many ppl. simply lost track of their ages. If their guardians & close family attested that they were of-age, then that was all that mattered, legally-speaking.
@@jeandehuit5385 Perhaps that is partly why Debretts came into being, to keep track of the peerage and keep it be all in order. They used to send my mother letters asking for the names be and dates of new additions to the family, way out here in the colonies, NewZealand. They stopped writing, weather it was because she didn't respond or because it's all so much easier with computers and more efficient record keeping me now, I don't know.
Really excited for the series especially Queen Henriette Maria and Queen Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz
Why is every monarch ever in this comment section?😅
@Sasha Johbson sorry when I commented this people with names like Mary 1, Catherine howard , Catherine of aragon etc had commented things
@@magdizh2262 you also forgotten abt me now
@@avxlk I’m very sorry but dont take it personally, I also forgot Aethelred the unready
@@magdizh2262 no worries it’s not like my head is going to chase you around .
@@avxlk lmaoo!😂
I just rewatched this because she’s my favorite queen consort. I didn’t pick this up before about her request to be buried with Edward’s heart. I knew this was done but I didn’t know it’s because she asked for it. A boss right until death. She got his heart finally in death when she couldn’t get it in life.
We the gays, don’t claim king Edward the second!!!🤮
Why
@@cecererei because he was awful
@@AmbyJeans well he’s still gay and apart of your community soooo ....
🤣🤣🤣
@@cecererei Do you want to claim all the women of history? I don't. Respect the meaning of the statement.
Yeeeesssssss, do it boo!! I would love a Starz or BBC series about the she wolf of France Margaret of Anjou!
“I didn’t have your heart in life but I have it in death don’t I Eddie?”
-Isabella probably
This channel feels like such a calm place compared to the other chaotic videos on this site. It is my favorite to listen to while I cook! Tonight’s meal is caldo de pollo 🍲 😊
I am positively obsessed with your channel and these beautiful, well-researched videos. Thank you!
Can't wait for the next video. My brain devoured this one with pleasure. I can see where George R. R. Martin got some of his "ideas" from 😉
That is the easiest and most comprehensive explanation I've seen of King Edward II. I've seen many others but your's clicked. Thank you
I clicked on this so fast. I swear you never miss.
Let's get one things straight. He should be removed for the crown coz' he was a bad king not because he was gay.
being a fuckboy instead of ruling a country didn't help tho
No one at the time seemed to care that he liked boys. The problem was not only was he a shity king, but treated Isabella like a cow to be breed, sexually, emotional, and mentally abused her with his boy friends.
He very well could have had a healthy relationship with Isabelle if he had chosen to.
But a way from that. Sexuality matter in monarchs.
He just gave his boy toy waaaaay too much power.
So sorry I haven’t been here, my family recently moved and we had to wait for internet ;( but I don’t know what it is about medieval history that I adore so much ;o
Me at 12: Playing basketball and watching cartoons.
Isabella at 12: Queen and in a confusing marriage.
Isabella of France. They called her the She-wolf. Which means she pantsed the men around her in terms of intelligence and ability. An icon for the ages. Long may she be remembered.
They called her a wolf because back then wolves were seen as traitorous, conniving, greedy and, in the case of she-wolves, promiscuous. It certainly wasn’t a compliment. It was the equivalent of calling someone a manipulative lying whore, which is a reputation that she didn’t deserve but nevertheless she had
Grandma! This one might be my favorite! 😂
Edward II & Isabella were paternal grandparents of mine. I'm so proud of Grandma She-Wolf!
Who else is pumped for this new series!
Yes, I've been waiting for this!
The first 35 seconds....I laugh, clap hands, and shout, Yea!!😝😄
Another great video Lindsay. Thank you for sharing. Love watching these, they are very inspirational to me !
Thank you for posting this and making my day Lindsay!!!!
I love tour videos. They are not only enjoyable but soothing at the same time. Keep up the excellent work. 🙂👍
When we learned about Isabella in elementary school everyone is class would look back at me (as young children do) because my name is Isabella
I would love seeing this drama as a show / series. I feel like it's strange that it's a not widely known story!
Isabella was strong & intelligent like her Mom... She wanted a healthy, loving, respectful marriage like that of her parents... When Edward didn't give her that after 2 decades, the 🌋 that was Isabella erupted!!!! Hell has no fury like a woman scorned...
One would hope that she found love & respect with Roger Mortimer
@@Wheelermayfield27 so do I... I think she did...
Thank you Lindsay!💕
Wow the best narration on RUclips. Intelligently and cunningly told. That was some juicy tea.
It's nice to finally see her being portrayed more fairly; she's always (with the exception of only one documentary) portrayed very negatively as the typical manipulative, grasping woman who was a murderous adulteress who betrayed her husband out of lust for power. Her suffering is rarely mentioned and we don't often see her side of the story or why she did it.
Because she doesn’t deserve sympathy. She supported her lover over her son. Mortimer very clearly told Montagu that his word was more important than the king HER SON. And what does she do? Does she punish Mortimer? Does she leave Mortimer for threatening her sons rule? No she conspires with Mortimer to arrest Montagu because she saw her son the same way Mortimer did, as a pawn for their little love nest to rule. Well unfortunately for her Edward III wasn’t Edward II. You people just want to feminist wash history and pretend she was this great ruler and strong woman. She used her sons claim and the already existing discontent over Edward II’s favoritism of the Despenser family which basically had people coming out in droves to support her sons claim, NOT HERS. Her son did nothing to deserve her betrayal and he was a better leader than her, her husband or Mortimer put together. If Mortimer and her had a son I guarantee she’d have tried to put her bastard on the throne.
@@nomercy3195 As soon as you said "You people just want to feminist wash history" I knew polite debate would be thrown out the window. Me, a feminist? You think I'm crazy enough to think women are equal to men? Haha, you're having a laugh. No.
I feel sorry for her due to how badly she was treated by her husband despite the children she bore him (and by doing so suffered pain and risked her life) she even risked her life for him on other occassions for political reasons. She was by all means a loyal and obediant wife to a husband who had forsaken her for many years, only to suffer indignation at his hands, and betrayal. Of course I'll have sympathy for her. And if she's bad for taking a lover, then so are all kings who did the same, including Edward II.
@@marinatebbenham4011 No Mercy, you should show a touch more mercy. I'm with you, Marina. See my comment above in the Elvia R section.
You should do Maria Theresa, Queen of Spain and also King Louis XIV’s wife making her Queen Consort of France.
Hey ! ;-) No Queen of France was ever titled "consort". They were just "Queen".
What a great story and video, much better than Braveheart! So glad to see your channel growing too!!
She almost sounds like fiction…it’s amazing how she was able to prevail and be so strong
OMG FIRST TIME I'M SO EARLY!!!!
Thank you for the new video! Am such a fan of your videos!!!!!
you should make a video about fictional queens and kings. like king Arthur.
That might be difficult - a lot of their stories are different depending on culture and location.
@@spawnofcornbread2092 yes but that is why it’s would be interesting
isabella: if y'all see my baby daddy at pride DO NOT INBOX ME.. I already know 🙄😒
lol i have to say it and i am shocked no one else has...this would make a sweet HBO series.
Wow....I👏🏾LOVE👏🏾THIS👏🏾 CHANNEL 👏🏾
I love your historical stories of the Queens of England. Thank you for your time & love of History! Many Blessings, Atlanta, GA, USA
Can you make a video about Mary Queen of Scots?
She said it was coming soon!
I hope so
@@marinadobre1751 she’s definitely doing it tho, her ‘who’s your favorite queen’ video said that. :)
Isabella’s story is one of: never underestimate the power of a woman. She didn’t put up with Edward II’s behavior with his favorites. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned
I feel for Edward - his intense love for Pierre and the tragic end of their relationship is heart-breaking! As a bi woman deeply in love with my wife, I can certainly empathise with the want to seek violent revenge on the homophobic warmongers who murdered the man he loved. But he was incredibly stupid over Despenser and an absolute dick for allowing Isabella to be treated that way when she'd done no wrong to him. He should've stayed loyal to her and been more clever about getting back at the murderers; he dug his own grave.
Yes, and most of all, he should have cared for his country, which he never did.
According to records he wasn't that great of a person and neither was Galveston, but that could be skewed as we were not there. People in history are a product of their time, and homosexuality was against what they thought to be truth. That part is unfortunate.
In that time royalty and nobles could not marry for love. Marriages were for alliances between families and dynasties and sides. Even if the homosexual marriage had been allowed, it would not have been allowed because the marriage was not a profitable alliance for the prince then king.
@@eastlynburkholder3559I know it would have been impossible for them to be together even if gay marriage was legal, that has nothing to do with what I said. I was just expressing empathy for a man who yes, was a bad king and epically screwed up running his country, but lost the love of his life in such a cruel and violent way. And even though his marriage to Isabella was political, there was no need to treat her so callously.
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Well, my point was gay or straight or bi, being of royal blood or just of noble blood, they were not allowed to just have sex as persons in lower ranks might have been able to do. Of, course fertile females who had illegitimate babies had problems whether of noble birth or not. Speaking of different times, in certain parts of the future USA, a woman with child was alright having a pre-mature baby born earlier than 9 months after the marriage as long as some man stepped up and claimed the responsibility for raising up,the child. At this time one of the duties if the midwives was to ask while the woman was in childbirth pain who was the father of the child so he could be pressured or forced by the community to support the child.
Love, marriage and even death was a strange thing back then
she really was a beautiful woman, seeing the drawings... i'd love that her story was shown in a movie... that's quite a life...
Yeah, she was gorgeous. I think that the Braveheart movie, inaccurate as it was, is a nice introduction to the circumstances of Isabella. It made me want to read up and eventually see this video. There's also good coverage of her in the YT video on Edward II.
Dear Caro, don't rely on the pictures. They are either posterior to Isabella, or conventional representations. In the middle age, nobody cared for resemblance between a living person and his portrait. The search for resemblance started nearly 200 years later. So, we can only rely on writings if we want to know how Isabella was. According to the people who knew her and wrote about her, she was known for her beauty, that is true. But you will never see a "true" portrait of her 🙂
@@heliedecastanet1882 you're right, thank you.
I’m so excited, I recommend her back when you first asked for recommendations ages ago. She’s brutal, not many women of the day could have done this.
*Isabella In a nutshell*
Isabella: Ok my husband is gay and I will support his relationship with Gaveston if he only borrows me so we can have heirs
Gaveston: Agree
Isabella: Good now don't make the nobles go crazy again
Gaveston: Alright
*Not even a year*
Edward II: No Gaveston
Isabella: Don't worry Eddie now that we have a child on the way cheer up I think Gaveston wants to see you happy
Edward II: Ok
*Years Later*
Isabella: WTF
Edward II: I will kill the nobles who took away my Gaveston
Despensers: Yes do that and declare war on France
Edward II: Yes and declare war on France
Isabella: That is it I'm going to France with my son and we are staying there until we have planned so he can be king.
Gaveston in the Afterlife: WTF Edward you are making Isabella going into misery than ever.
After Edward II cruel death
Isabella: He finally got Karma after making my life hell
Edward III: Because he was gay mom
Isabella: No not totally that HE WAS THE WORST KING
What a dialogue.
I think that that is the essence of it all. Poor girl had a raw deal from the beginning. Longshanks, nice try, but little Eddie was a dope!
Omg, I am so excited to see the rest of the series! So much amazing information and details 😍
Llewelyn ap Gruffudd is the name of the Welsh Prince who died when Edward 1st conquered Wales I'm a decendent of Llewelyn through my grandmothers family the Anwyls which my great grandfather was from. Awesome video I love history!! ❤
this woman is my 23rd grandmother that’s so cool
She's my 18th, 19th, & 22nd great grandmother. :)
Thats amazing! My ancestors were physicians to their court. I wonder if our ancestors knew each other!
Hugh Dispenser is my 19th great-grandfather 🤤😔
She's my 23rd great grandmother also. John of Gaunt and Kathryn Swinford were my 21st great grandfather and grandmother. Their son Cardinal Henry Beaufort was my 20th great grandfather
I'm a descendant of hers as well she is my 20th great grandmother.
At 17:50
A small correction: Edward III, the son of Edward II and Isabella, died in 1377 at the age of 64. Edward II died in 1327. He was 43 years old. You mistook father and son ... smile ...
I paused the video when she said 1377 to look for this comment so I didn't repeat it. I KNEW I couldn't be the only one who noticed that.
@@danaglabeman6919 Many saw it. That's the only flaw I saw. Looked up everyone's dates and able to make sense of it all. Small flaw in an excellent video.
Isabella was awesome! She survived it all and thrived. Very cool, didn’t know much about her before, thanks.
What a confident and powerful woman in a time when they were expected to be subservient.
Despite her young age when she arrived in England, Isabella was known for being very proud of what she was. Not only her cleverness and her beauty, but also her origins. She was the daughter of the king of France, the most powerful kingdom at this time (well, things turned quite bad for the country at the end of this century lol), and she had a very high opinion of who she was. No wonder why Piers Gaveston got so quickly on her nerves lol
Lindsay, this video made my day.
Agreed! Literally though, I was writing this 600 word essay, so this video was the savior from doom.
This video is awesome! Keep up the great work!
She played a big part in the Tour de Nesle Affair.
I enjoy your videos greatly!
Hopefully I’ll be featured since I’m a consort! Perhaps- the best consort? ;)
You were pretty cool, but you and Victoria cared a little too much about who your kids married.
@@SungSNam True but, I didn’t arrange most of them, I died before some of them. And- I get it, but I tried convincing them to see who matched their personality, and someone that they liked, but I don’t want them marrying peasants with not good ranks. I want the best for my children, thank you.
@@jamescharcoal3472 umm, I’m a peasant you could say, and most of the time the people with ‘good’ ranks were born into and/or inherited them
Eh, I think you gaslit your wife into thinking she would turn into her grandfather and kept her knocked up so you could have power.
@TSZ YIN WONG Yes.. it was absolutely horrible! All of you are so lucky to know more about these horrible diseases then how we used to think back then.