This was pretty fun, except for poor Harriet Mordaunt. Nasty cover up, putting a woman in an asylum for the crime of ... telling the truth about having an affair with the notorious prince who everyone knew was sleeping around all over Europe. Sarah Bernhardt ... what a freaking legend! I feel like you could do a whole video on her tbh.
@@DenaInWyo prison plus torturous treatment routine too. I can imagine anyone who wasn't mad would have been driven into madness after being sent there. As another comment says, it is hilarious that some people think that people in the past were more moral than today. It's just the rich, royal, and privileged who had more power to control the limited communication channels to maintain their image, they had more control over the lives of underprivileged people because there was no law that protected people from abuse and discrimination. When I was young, women had less power in workplace and society, so magazines and tv shows made mistress jokes as something of a "real men"s way, or "boys will be boys", because men owned all the media. Nowadays they're still in control but much less so as women start to have more independence and power. We really should learn from the past but strive for a better future rather than being stuck in the backward neanderthal traditions and values.
It’s so ironic how we tend to assume that people in the past were so morally sound and upright. In reality, these Royals and High Society people were as scandalous as Hollywood types. I love how Daisy craved “loyalty” yet admitted that only 1 of her 5 children belonged to her husband!😂
I always found issue with this since my family was very open about our history (to an extent). My friends would always talk about how their families upheld puritan morals, and I'd be going well of the 4 children born of my grandmother's first marriage only two were her husband's. My great great grandmother was a kept mistress - later found out that her mother was as well.
From what historians can tell it was largely confined to specific circles, often with a family history of personal depravity (and often as not childhood abuse), and especially during the Victorian period was not widespread, most people were sincere in their moralizing.
Queen Victoria was known to be quite detached emotionally from her children and one of her daughters was her favorite just because she looked the most like Victoria's beloved husband Albert. I wonder if the lack of warmth and comfort from his mother lead to him seeking it in his many lovers.
I think that is the absolute truth. And although he was criticized and accused of a lot of things, I think there’s no question but that is virtually what happened to Prince (now King) Charles. I’m not excusing all his behavior but the way you were raised has everything thing to do with how you react in adult situations. And if you observe them over the 19 years of their marriage, you see the bond and love they share and how very contented he is when with her. I don’t approve of all the actions of Queen Camilla, and I think she’s very patient and quite very ruthless in the pursuit of her goals. However you can also see that she’s developed deep feelings for Charles and is able to help him deal with his anxiety.
@@laurenrose2895Charles? If he would have been “allowed” to marry her to begin with…he wasn’t running around with mistresses. Just her. It was always her. He really loved her. And Edward? Who knows. Maybe that was just his personality. Victoria certainly liked sex, a lot, and to quote a book I read, her “unspeakable uncles”, which always cracked me up! I’m glad she wasn’t MY mother, but it’s not always the mother fault lol.
It just shocks me at times how intertwined history is! The fact that some of these women died in what is considered the "modern" era, post 1900's is just amazing. It seems like this all happened centuries ago and yet it was basically just yesterday, especially since I was born in the early 1950's.
True as your life started many of their's ended. Think of it, we were born in the 1900's and here we are in the second decade of the 2000's already. I was born in '72.
@@bloss6277 he only had a handful of acknowledged mistresses. 3 mistresses he didn’t marry and 3 of his wives he was involved with before marriage. A further 4 alleged mistresses and you have 10 mistresses max, realistically 6
Bertie still did it better because he didn’t see the women as objects. If they didn’t want to have sex with him anymore he was like “oh that’s cool! I like friendship too! Does your husband need a better job?” 😅 He had a lot more self confidence whereas Henry VIII was an insecure mess! It’s ironic how he was ashamed of not having a son for so long and then when he did the boy died as a young teen and his youngest daughter ushered in a golden age in England. 🤦🏻♀️
@@KaylaNoelle1 ALL OF THIS!!! 🤣 And if Henry hadn't married Katherine of Aragon he wouldn't have been anything of note. She taught him to rule. Shame he disrespected her towards the end of their relationship.
Here's a sidelight on Edward VII's behavior. I once (long ago) met the father of a friend of my grandparents. He'd been a member of the London police force and was in his youth assigned to a security detail for Edward, Prince of Wales. He told me that he had to tail the prince to the home of a mistress (perhaps Mrs. Keppel) and wait patiently outside till the prince left, then following him back to his home (Clarence House, I think). Then it was home to his poor lodgings in the inner suburbs.He said it was a good night when the prince stayed long enough that by the time this cop's duties were over, public transportation had ceased for the night, so he could claim taxi fare back home. He was so poorly paid that he'd walk several miles back home so he could add the taxi fare he'd claimed to stretch his income! Really shows the huge gap between the classes in the late Victorian era.
@@pedanticradiator1491 You are right. I was not checking every detail before I posted! Sorry. Also, on thinking further, this might have happened after the prince became king. I was told this sometime in the 1950s, or '60s, and the gentleman who told me was pretty old by then, and a rookie cop when assigned to the unglamorous task of security (imagine standing outside the mistress's house in the rain for hours!), so he could have been in this assignment in the 1880s at the earliest or before 1910 at the latest.
@Nicky L Definitely not. This was a gentleman I met at my grandparents' home, when i was in my late teens or very early 20s at latest, in the late 1950s, I think. He was the father of a friend of my grandparents, then in their sixties. He must have been in his late seventies or eighties, even. His story was about when he was a very young policeman in the Metropolitan Police (London). So it must have been either in the late years of Victoria's reign, or just possibly when Edward VII was king.He told us a lot more, but I remembered this because of the thought of him walking home several miles in the night, to save the taxi fare--his pay was minimal. And the thought of him standing patiently outside the house for hours, to make sure no assassins got to royalty!
In England, every monarch has had a nickname and I must say that the nicknames for Edward VII are my personal favourites: "Dirty Bertie" and (the most clever) "Edward the Caresser" 😅😂
@@Colinop I mean they're not as fun as Edward VII's but for example, John of England was called "Soft -Sword" both because he was considered to be a military disaster and had trouble getting it up. Meanwhile, Henry VII was called "The Accountant" because he was extremely frugal to the point of being nearly cheap lol
Rosa was amazing XD the audacity to hang a portrait of the Kaiser upside down IN THE TOILETS during a world war then later emerge out of a bombing trumpeting with rage is just hilarious to me like nothing was going to stop this woman from doing what she wanted
Despite all his mistresses, I give Edward credit for being kind to his wife Alexandra and protecting her from the wrath of his mother. He never vilified her rebelliousness and love for their children, unlike Charles who only had one mistresses and was cruel to Diana.
I think if he had been decent to Diana and treated her kinder people would not feel the way they do about him. I can't change my mind about him because of that.
@@rockthecasbah6450 If you're referring to the Diana tapes, that's exactly where it came from. Not just from Netflix but pretty much published after her death. Who better than to hear from than Diana herself? Even Charles admitted his unfaithfulness in an interview and his intention to keep Camilla in his life, divorce or no divorce.
Have you ever considered doing a video on the 4 wives of William the Silent, Prince of Orange? He was kind of a Dutch Henry VIII due to the way he went through wives, and his marital history includes a scandalous divorce, adultery, even a shocking assassination (though I won’t say who died). His Wikipedia page is a surprisingly fascinating read. 🇳🇱Love your channel
This was really fascinating! I'm surprised that mistresses were treated so well and was one of the only ways non-noble women could rise in ranks. I was surprised to learn that Camilla Parker Bowels descended from a royal mistress
You'll have a hard time finding a nobleman in UK who isn't the descendant of at least one royal mistress because of Charles II. He had more than a dozen illegitimate children. All the daughters married noblemen and the sons became peers. Diana herself had two of those sons as her ancestors.
My great-grandfather, William Blenheim, was one of the first electricians. He got the contract to install electricity into Windsor Castle; it gave him access to all parts. His wife Georgina was a keen social climber and insisted he take her to work so she could see the inside of the castle. Bertie took a close interest in the installation, and, on meeting Mrs Blenheim, took a closer interest in her. Thereafter he would come to make sure that William Blenheim was at work, then he would go to Egham and call on Mrs Blenheim. The whole town knew, but if William knew he kept quiet about it and profited fom the Royal patronange.
@@Janus-fn2uz Not a claim.I know the provenance of it and I know the outcome. Doubt all you wish. If you want to check with Windsor Caste about the original electrical installation, please do.
To quote one of my former 8th graders on seeing the “family tree” of the Greek gods, “Damn, he couldn’t keep it in his pants!”. He, of course, immediately clapped his hands over his mouth and fervently apologized for swearing in class. I told him the apology was definitely accepted and that he was correct, Zeus couldn’t keep it in his pants. I’d say Bertie had a lot in common with Zeus. It’s a shame that Victoria blamed Bertie for his father’s death when he couldn’t have had nothing to do with it. Her cold shoulder towards him for 40 years meant she missed out on finding out how his natural sociability could have benefited her reign. In his case, as a mother, Victoria really screwed it up.
Lol I took a mythology class a couple semesters ago and I can definitively say that Zeus was a hundred times worse than this dude at keeping it in his pants. There are similarities, but Zeus absolutely wins the trophy for not keeping it in his pants lmao
Victoria was an exhausting person to be around by the sound of it. If anything it was Victoria herself & her inability to be relaxed & non combative/self involved that wore him out. There's a documentary on Albert & how much he did for England. Ironically without Albert there would be no Victorian age. He did all the work & she took the credit for advancement. He pretty much ran the country.
@@lisachiappetti6092, it was Aaron’s “oh shit” facial expression when he said it that was priceless. I’m sure he thought I was going to get really mad at him, but honestly, it was all I could do not to laugh out loud. Obviously Bertie wasn’t as bad as Zeus, but he absolutely made the rounds more than some others.
@@SpringerA1984, I wouldn’t say he ran the country, but he definitely helped advance interests that Victoria wouldn’t have otherwise given his fascination with emerging technologies like steam engines and industrialization. He encouraged and championed innovations in areas where she had little understanding or experience. In that respect, yes, he did have a huge impact on Great Britain and the nation it was becoming during her reign.
There is a story that Edward once told Lily Langtry "I've spent enough on you to build a battleship" to which she replied, "You've spent enough in me to float one"
I am from Ramsgate. It is reputed that King Edward VII, like his mother, Queen Victoria, regularly visited the town. It is said that he frequented a notorious brothel, in what is now, appropriately, Royal Road. It is now a popular pub. Oh, for a time machine!
It's interesting that Alexandra liked Alice Keppel better because she was actually discreet compared to Daisy Greville. It's also interesting that Alice actually had legitimate concerns about Edward's health and tried to get him to take care of his health better. Also, didn't Alexandra have a good laugh once because she saw Edward walking with one of his mistresses (I don't know if it was Alice Keppel) and both were pretty portly? EDIT 8/03/2023: You really have to wonder just how many of Edward's affairs and how much of his personal lifestyle can (or should? not sure which word to use here) be attributed to him not being able to stand and therefore hating a lot of things such as being blamed for his father's death and therefore he tried to rebel as much as humanly possible without seriously compromising his position as Prince of Wales and later as King. And as many have said, when you think about what Edward must have endured at Osborne House, you might end up kind of understanding a bit as to why he absolutely disliked it and had plans for making it public grounds aside from the Naval College he planned on having built there.
I can see Alexandra preferring one mistress to the other. Mistresses could climb their way to the top, but better show respect for The Wife. The Wives often had a lot of power themselves.
@@EmmaJo-e She was a princess trained to be a Queen, and so she would have been instructed early how Royal Marriages work, and how best to get along with a spouse as a friend working partner rather than as "the love of her life".
i love these videos because they introduce us to so many amazing badass women who were so much more than just one king's mistress. Thank you for that Lindsay
Reference is to their entrepreneurship, acting skills, wartime nursing, and political acumen (and in many cases their challenging of very restrictive cobtemporary social strictures) as opposed to their sex lives.
@@galacticguardian2783 umm back in the day, the only traditional types of career women were allowed to do was "opening their legs", as you call it. Do you somehow live in the bubble and think that those who were regular housewives didn't "open their legs"? Please, in those days women were literally pressured as a girl to marry someone and become a birthing machines, no education, no other career endeavor, nothing else, they were often used by their own families in strategic marriage too, just for money, how was that not "opening their legs"? Bravo to all women who defied the traditions and went single or made the name for themselve and not for other people.
@@est9949 Is that your opinion of your mother and the role she may have played in birthing and raising you? You people are really sick in the head and it shoes. So instead of being "birthing machines" you think they would be better off as wageslaves for the corporates and sex slaves for the oggling eyes on the interent? Because according to you that's somehow empowering as compared to being a mother?
research was done a few years ago into Prince Albert's health and his diaries and doctors notes were all studied by medical experts and it is now generally believed that Albert had Crohns disease, which was not a known disease at that time. According to records, Albert had been showing symptoms of the disease for some time and was often ill, with the illness worsening as he got older. Typhoid was very common at that time, so the symptoms he showed were assumed to be typhoid. But it was Crohns disease that killed him.
@@christianpatriot7439 That would go along with having Crohns disease. If it's left untreated it will in fact lead into stomach/colon cancer. I've had Crohns for 34 years.
@@christianpatriot7439 Age isn't a factor. You can develop it at any age. I became sick at 19. My oldest daughter is now developing the symptoms of it and she's 23. Doctors still don't know how you get it and have still found no cure. There are alot of new meds available to maintain the symptoms but unfortunately none have worked for me. I have to be extremely careful of stress, physical activity and diet. I've had 1 major surgery that took 2 1/2 feet of small bowel and my appendix. I wouldn't wish Crohns on anyone. It's very painful and debilitating. By the time I was diagnosed at 24 I weighed 95 lbs. The doctors were positive my Crohns had went to cancer but I was lucky and pathology reports showed I was cancer free.
There's a story that when he was visiting either Moscow or St Petersburg's bumpin' nightlife scene, he was ogling a stunning young woman and slipped her his lodging's address. She never showed, because 'she' was in fact Prince Felix Yusupov in drag.
I read about it in the book "Nicholas and Alexandra". The author said that it was true. And Prince Felix Yusapov was actually one of Rasputin's assassins.
Surprised Lindsay didn't mention that the section where the mistresses sat at his coronation was nicknamed "The King's Loose Box" (a "loose box" is apparently something to do with horse stables as well as a rude double entendre)
I also remember the camera panning to Camilla as Diana walked down the aisle with Charles? Some things never change? They might call them courtesans .....I have a different name for all of them. Obviously the morals of her great grandmother was passed on to Charles's mistress? NONE.
Rosa Lewis, who was a renowned cook & owner of the Cavendish Hotel, is a fascinating woman. If you ever have the opportunity to watch 'The Duchess of Duke Street', it's a great fictionalized retelling of her life. I saw it when I was younger & have never forgotten the character, nor the actress Gemma Jones who did such a marvellous job bringing the character to life.
@@SymphonyBrahms Amen! Every time I see her in roles now, I immediately remember The Duchess of Duke Street & how good Gemma Jones was in it. I was young, but I remember anticipating the next episode every week, lol.
Can you do a full video on Prince Albert Victor aka Eddy? (Edward’s oldest son and who was supposed to be king) his romance with French Princess Helene is heartbreaking.
I was familiar with Sarah Bernhardt because I have many Alphonse Mucha art books but i didn't know much about her so it was nice to see her featured in your video and I find out about her. She was so cool I might do some more researching ✨✨
I was expecting more drama but frankly it seems like he was a pretty decent guy to have kept such good relationships with so many skilled and adventurous women even after the initial thrill had ended.
That has to do with the fact , I think , that he was a totally unprejudiced person. Because of this , he was not racist , which was very notable in those days , and not a social bigot , despite him being the Prince of Wales he did not treat people who were his social inferiors whether they were men or women , not just women , with the arrogance that was natural and to be expected in those times , of people who were at the summit of the social pyramid in a country that was at the summit of world wealth and power then .
Judging by his silent films Lou Tellegen was not the worst actor- he can hold his own when a part called for slightly exaggerated good looks and a touch of melodrama - and preferably some villainy. His death was awful.
6:13 There was a man in Australia, “William Willesden”, who discovered a connection to Queen Elizabeth during the DNA searching of the Romanovs. This man was reportedly born in London, sometime in early 1872 (Susan gave birth in late December 1871), and was sent to Australia with a large amount of money to be adopted by Mr Willesden and Sarah Gale. Sarah Gale was Alexandra’s lady-in-waiting, and Willesden’s sisters were governesses to Albert, George and Louise.
Wowwww that’s crazy how the mistresses seem to make it a family business where daughters and granddaughter remain in the royal circle and get together with younger generations. Just wow
In that era, they felt that lifestyle was necessary to provide security for their heirs; also it's a control issue, who is using who..? Just don't cross over "the line" (whatever that could be), where one could lose their position. The current Duchess of Cornwall seems to have that "old school" thought process. It will be interesting to see how things go when Elizabeth passes away; how well can Charles maintain the monarchy..? I doubt he has the ability to handle the generation gap that now exists.
It's the exact same business of the royal family in the past, and even noble families today, marrying off their own daughters to other royal families to maintain status and power (overdone to the point of inbreeding). The only difference is that these mistress families haven't reached the top rank of the marriage game so they have to be satisfied with being mistresses.
Diana's paternal grand mother Cynthia spencer was once girlfriend of Queen Elizabeth II'S uncle Edward VIII and he was also Godfather of John Spencer (Diana's father) John Spencer's full name is Edward John Spencer in honor of his Godfather Edward VIII and Camila's great-grand mother Alice Kepple was Edward VII'S mistress.
I have been waiting for this. He was a womanizer. Damn 50 women! Lol. Thanks amazing videos as always. I died when you said Camilla carried on the family tradition of being a mistress 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The real question are : 1. Did Edward VII have sexual relationships with all these woman or not and if that so, wouldn't he be possible to have illegitimate children 2. What are the responses from all the spouse of these woman if they're actually married while hanging arround with Edward VII
About the first question, it is possible since victorian birth control aren't 100% effective, there is another rumor that Camilla was actually a descendant of Edward but illegitimate and for the second question well probably kept shut since the benefits are great deal that their mouth can be shut and also they move on with their lives so they don't have a say to their decision.
@@cyrilmarasigan7108 Camilla shares a resemblance with her distant cousin Judith Keppel the first jackpot winner of the TV quiz Who Wants to Be A Miillionaire so on thst basis its unlikely she is descended from Edward
I'm surprised by the lack of illegitimate children but most of his mistresses we're married so children born would be claimed by the husbands. And as far as the husbands responses, I'm sure they benefitted financially from their wife's position and gifts and most likely were having affairs of their own.
@Estefania Upper class Victorian hostesses often had weekend sleepover events. Couples were invited, but a discreet 'black book' listed who was sleeping with who, so rooms were assigned close by so the lovers could tiptoe into each other's room.
8:21 the blonde in the photo is Maria Theresa Olivia Cornwalis - West, better known as Daisy von Pless (now in Poland), daughter of the aforementioned Maria ("Patsy"), George's sister and sister-in-law Jenny Jerome, not mother-in-law ;)Dutchess Daisy had a sad but very interesting life. And her palace in Książ (near Wałbrzych) is an absolute pearl of architecture, worth to see!
I have always wondered who ratted Bertie out to his parents about Nellie Clifton. It's not the sort of thing one puts in a letter home to mama and papa.
This one seems to have snuck by a truly startling number of viewers? 🤔 I noticed it the first time it popped up and honestly found it distracted me from the rest of the vid s bit, but only in a hilarious way 😂 Thinking of the Comedie François as Bertie's "harem away from home" certainly wouldn't be incorrect!
Suggestion for a video: Kings and Queen Consorts of Greece (from Otto to Constantine II). I know they were mentioned in the Christian IX video but they deserve their own video haha, such an interesting monarchy.
My favourite is Lillie Landry because wow she was smart she used her affair to build herself up to become a success actress and eventually business women that is impressive
I can imagine hurt, and about Alice Keppel being let in to see him before he died, I’ve heard it’s because she was making a big ruckus outside and wasn’t leaving.
She was Queen of Great Britian and Empress of India, She was trained and groomed to accept this. And she was given no choice but like the person above me replied "She was devastated and Heartbreaken" but was taught to never... Never let it show....and they call us the weaker sex LOL
I feel the need to defend Lou Tellegen a little bit because he found his niche in silent movies as a handsome leading man. Then he burned his own face off, underwent 1920s plastic surgery, went bankrupt, failed to get into talkies, and stabbed himself to death with sewing scissors at 50. I dunno, I just always felt so damn bad for him. I sure didn't expect to defend a long-dead actor on a video about Edward VII's mistresses, but here we are.
Lindsay, at the 25:34 mark, you have side by side pictures of Alice Keppel & King Edward VII (Bertie). Only that's not Alice Keppel... it's Princess Alice (the late Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh's mother). I had recently watched a documentary on Princess Alice & her children, so I was surprised when I saw her picture next to King Edward VII as one of his mistresses.
Very interesting! Edward enjoyed a wide acquaintance that led to an amazing variety of mistresses. I'm glad to know about them, especially after their time with Edward. Great video. Cheers. 😀
I didn't realize Edward VII had a lot of mistresses. I only know Lily Langtry, Daisy Warwick & Alice Keppel. I think Edward VII would likely rival Henry VIII Charles II, and Louis XIV in that department. Enjoyed the video.
Louis the 14"s great grandson, Louis the 15th was worse than his great grandfather. He had a problem with too many teenage girls, and even though the French monarchs were expected to be promiscuous, it nearly brought down his throne.
@@algini12 Yeah the Parc-aux-Cerfs. Louise O Grady was one of them and unwisely said the wrong thing about Madame de Pompadour. She was married off in a hurry! Ops. 😅
@@carolinelynch2823 Most royal marriages are arranged. True love is very rare. Tsar Nicholas II who really loved his wife Alexandra was a rare example.
I don’t think he rivaled them because he exceeded them by a big margin . He was unrivaled…. although I do not know about Charles II , who was he ? Charles from where ?
Great video! There were also rumours that Edward had an affair with the famous novelist Marie Corelli, whose books were much admired by him as well as Queen Victoria and Tsarina Alexandra of Russia. He did Know Miss Corelli but there was never any concrete evidence of intimacy, at least to the best of my knowledge.
I enjoyed the video so very much. I had heard about all of his mistresses but you really went into detail. Thank you, I can't wait to watch more. Keep them coming!
Love your historical videos. Just a note on the Sarah Bernhardt, The T is silent so it is pronounced bern hard. Also comedy française, the c in française is soft not hard like in cat but soft as in cease, it is pronounced ‘franseys’
Alice Kepple is the ancestress of Camilla Parker-Bowles... In fact, when meeting Prince Charles, Camilla opened up with the line "You know, my ancestor and your ancestor used to be lovers... Shall we get on with it then..?" I suppose the shameless, easy apple doesn't fall far from the shameless, trollop tree 🤷♀️
I think what's really disgusting of all as the fact that Victoria blamed her own son For his father's death that is not only disgusting that is Damn right Cruel
So true. She was a very hateful lady to Edward VII & a controlling Mom to her other kids... She was appalled that "Bertie" caroused with actresses and others Queen Victoria deemed as low class...
Victoria herself didn't had a good relationship with her mother, so she didn't knew much about raising children. Albert's death had completely traumatised her to such an extent that when cold-shouldered one of her own daughters who was asking emotional support from her in the aftermath of losing her infant child by stating that the death of a husband is more traumatic for a woman than the death of an infant child (which she had never experienced).
His parents saw him as a total disappointment to them, and treated him poorly most of his life. That is probably why he acted the way he did; he had always been told he wasn't good enough.
While i am totally against cheating on your partner, I do feel bad for Lady Harriet Mordaunt. It's hard when your partner is not sensitive or understanding towards your well-being. And yes, it is absolutely okay to be busy or pre-occupied. People are busy and have their own lives. However, the time spent with the person close to you is so precious that you'll never get it ever again, if you're gonna keep pushing them away.
I mean, royal women at that time had no expectations that their husbands would be faithful. They were raised in courts where their fathers, uncles, brothers and every other male relative had mistresses. But his excessive sexual activity was far outside what was considered normal at the time as as you pointed out, a direct risk to her health.
It was said in the video that she didn't rlly gave a fuck and they got along well Also royal couples at that time were not made out of love (that is fairly new concept tbh) I'm not rlly sure how much was known about STD's
Royal marriages of that era were predominantly arranged. The Czar of Russia was interested in Alexandria as a mate for his son, but the Brits got her first...the Russians settled for Dagmar, Alex’s younger sister...Dagmar was the mother of Nicholas II, last Czar who as murdered along with his entire family, by the Bolsheviks.....Alexandria was great grandmother to QEII, her descendants still sit on the throne of GB...
Hello Lindsay, I just love your video. I would like to ask you for a video about what former royals family do these days. Former royal houses from Portugal, France, Germany, Yugoslavia, Russia, Finland, Greece, Poland, Albania, Montenegro, and from my country too Brazil. Some people forget but Brazil already had a monarchy and they are related with the french and German royal houses.
For those who don't know in 1918 Prince Frederick of the house of Hesse Kassel was elected king of Finland but not even three months after that he renounced. But still it's possible to trace his descendents.
@@vitoriaduarte2002 That's Right,Finland Possibly Could Have Been A Monarchy,That Would Be Fascinating To Trace Frederick's Descendants,Lindsay Should A Video About Them!!! 🥰😍🤩
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Unrelated but a little unknown fact. Sir Winston Churchill was Princess Diana's distant cousin. To this day, some members of the family still style their last name as Spencer-Churchill. I'd love to see a video on Prince Albert Victor Duke of Clarence and Avondale (the Heir apparent to Edward VII) Rumours linked him with the Cleveland Street scandal, which involved a homosexual brothel (however, there is no conclusive evidence that he ever visited there, or was homosexual.) Another rumour being he was Jack the Ripper. He died in 1892 aged 28
@@glen7318 it's only known, if you actually know it... Unless you are a history buff or have studied, or read up on Diana or Winston, then you wouldnt know. Many people have never heard of the connection between them, after all they never styled their last names Spencer-Churchill.
The women who went on kind of a trial for a divorce. Her Ex husband wanted her to be found sane so he was legally able to divorce her. However Bertie wanted her insane so he could say her Claims of sex we a illustrations of.a insane women. He even had his royal Dr testifying to say she was insane. So while she ended up in am asylum her ex was very upset as he could nor divorce her and had ro pay for her treatments. Also queen Victoria believed him when he said he did not sleep with her she believed she was insane
Yess! Since it was hard to keep track who are his mistresses but definetely would be fun to watch, i wish lindsay also create louise xv's mistresses also
This was very interesting and I enjoyed it very much. Glad you used pictures/portraits of the People. It made the documentary more accessible to see who you were talking about.
He strikes me less a horrible philandering monarch, and more as some one who was more laid back than the norm. Importantly he seems to have surrounded himself with like-minded people
He enjoyed the attraction To Females he wanted . Nonetheless he spent money outside of the Palace and moved in circles he wanted. A wonderful freedom to have in his mothers harsh time Victorian England 🇬🇧
I see him as a philandering fat pig? Only King for 11years ...the last couple he could barely walk with gout and other problems to do with his obesity? I see NOTHING positive about a man shaming his wife. Camilla is just carrying on the morals of her great grandmother..who basically slept around to get money to keep their estate going?? THAT is called PROSTITUTION.
@@suzyfarnham3165 clearly wd have different understandings of humanity. I do not feel a person's weight has any reflection on their morality or how they select consenting partners. I also have no issues with sw. It appears you disagree.
thank you so much for your wonderful in detailed historical information. fascinating...thank you again from this old eighty one year old woman from boston, massachsuetts usa.
That was wonderful !!👏👏👏 ALL of these ladies were so beautiful and talented in their own right … At one point I was surprised that there were yet MORE !! God bless his wife though - she could not have been any more gracious .
Fascinating that among Bertie's lady friends was Jennie Jerome later to be the mother of Winston Churchill. I wonder if Winston was ever told considering he and his mother were not close.
The fact that Edward had so many mistresses they get their own thirty minute video is hilarious and I love it
No wander is a Playboy
I’m sure his wife wouldn’t
And they're just a handful 😂😂
And those are just the ones that are documented could you imagine how many more are lost to history
@@clarah.9681 She seems to have got on well with Mrs Keppel, and probably some of the others as well.
I love how a lot of them were like “alright, I’ve been the much younger mistress long enough. Time for me to marry a man half my age!” 😂
I love that for poor old Jennie Jerome - with some of the horrible men she had to put up with, nice that she had fun with her toy boy at the end.
I wish i i was a little more
I wish am a little longer but it would never happen until again to do something like tt
@@starz7764 What does this even mean? Can you explain yourself in chest English? I don't understand what you're saying...
@@wareforcoin5780 I have to ask....what does "chest English" mean?
This was pretty fun, except for poor Harriet Mordaunt. Nasty cover up, putting a woman in an asylum for the crime of ... telling the truth about having an affair with the notorious prince who everyone knew was sleeping around all over Europe.
Sarah Bernhardt ... what a freaking legend! I feel like you could do a whole video on her tbh.
8:40 Churchill's Mom damn Cougar WOW
That was tragic. Essentially thrown in prison with a life sentence.
@@DenaInWyo prison plus torturous treatment routine too. I can imagine anyone who wasn't mad would have been driven into madness after being sent there. As another comment says, it is hilarious that some people think that people in the past were more moral than today. It's just the rich, royal, and privileged who had more power to control the limited communication channels to maintain their image, they had more control over the lives of underprivileged people because there was no law that protected people from abuse and discrimination. When I was young, women had less power in workplace and society, so magazines and tv shows made mistress jokes as something of a "real men"s way, or "boys will be boys", because men owned all the media. Nowadays they're still in control but much less so as women start to have more independence and power. We really should learn from the past but strive for a better future rather than being stuck in the backward neanderthal traditions and values.
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Danced on a table at 65 with a wooded leg.
It’s so ironic how we tend to assume that people in the past were so morally sound and upright. In reality, these Royals and High Society people were as scandalous as Hollywood types. I love how Daisy craved “loyalty” yet admitted that only 1 of her 5 children belonged to her husband!😂
Strumpets galore...no,only joking,the then prince of Wales almost cited in a divorce case,Harriot Mordant,I read books since I'm a history buff.
As long as there have been royalty there have been royal mistresses.At least as far back as the 1400's.
I always found issue with this since my family was very open about our history (to an extent). My friends would always talk about how their families upheld puritan morals, and I'd be going well of the 4 children born of my grandmother's first marriage only two were her husband's. My great great grandmother was a kept mistress - later found out that her mother was as well.
@@yiotatort …wow, that’s interesting!
From what historians can tell it was largely confined to specific circles, often with a family history of personal depravity (and often as not childhood abuse), and especially during the Victorian period was not widespread, most people were sincere in their moralizing.
Queen Victoria was known to be quite detached emotionally from her children and one of her daughters was her favorite just because she looked the most like Victoria's beloved husband Albert. I wonder if the lack of warmth and comfort from his mother lead to him seeking it in his many lovers.
I think that is the absolute truth.
And although he was criticized and accused of a lot of things, I think there’s no question but that is virtually what happened to Prince (now King) Charles. I’m not excusing all his behavior but the way you were raised has everything thing to do with how you react in adult situations. And if you observe them over the 19 years of their marriage, you see the bond and love they share and how very contented he is when with her. I don’t approve of all the actions of Queen Camilla, and I think she’s very patient and quite very ruthless in the pursuit of her goals. However you can also see that she’s developed deep feelings for Charles and is able to help him deal with his anxiety.
No. It was not his mother's fault. He was just a bad seed.
@@laurenrose2895Charles? If he would have been “allowed” to marry her to begin with…he wasn’t running around with mistresses. Just her. It was always her. He really loved her. And Edward? Who knows. Maybe that was just his personality. Victoria certainly liked sex, a lot, and to quote a book I read, her “unspeakable uncles”, which always cracked me up! I’m glad she wasn’t MY mother, but it’s not always the mother fault lol.
I'd say 100% yes.
It just shocks me at times how intertwined history is! The fact that some of these women died in what is considered the "modern" era, post 1900's is just amazing. It seems like this all happened centuries ago and yet it was basically just yesterday, especially since I was born in the early 1950's.
True as your life started many of their's ended. Think of it, we were born in the 1900's and here we are in the second decade of the 2000's already. I was born in '72.
So very true
Maybe some things never change.
Queen Victoria died in 1901, technically the Victorian era ended in 1902, which a lot of people don’t realise
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“He had more than 55 mistresses.”
Henry VIII: Damn bro, even I think that’s a bit much. At least marry or behead a few.
lol pretty sure henry had loads of mistresses too tho he even had a bunch of illegitimate kids
@@bloss6277 he only had a handful of acknowledged mistresses. 3 mistresses he didn’t marry and 3 of his wives he was involved with before marriage. A further 4 alleged mistresses and you have 10 mistresses max, realistically 6
Bertie still did it better because he didn’t see the women as objects. If they didn’t want to have sex with him anymore he was like “oh that’s cool! I like friendship too! Does your husband need a better job?” 😅 He had a lot more self confidence whereas Henry VIII was an insecure mess! It’s ironic how he was ashamed of not having a son for so long and then when he did the boy died as a young teen and his youngest daughter ushered in a golden age in England. 🤦🏻♀️
@@KaylaNoelle1 ALL OF THIS!!! 🤣 And if Henry hadn't married Katherine of Aragon he wouldn't have been anything of note. She taught him to rule. Shame he disrespected her towards the end of their relationship.
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Here's a sidelight on Edward VII's behavior. I once (long ago) met the father of a friend of my grandparents. He'd been a member of the London police force and was in his youth assigned to a security detail for Edward, Prince of Wales. He told me that he had to tail the prince to the home of a mistress (perhaps Mrs. Keppel) and wait patiently outside till the prince left, then following him back to his home (Clarence House, I think). Then it was home to his poor lodgings in the inner suburbs.He said it was a good night when the prince stayed long enough that by the time this cop's duties were over, public transportation had ceased for the night, so he could claim taxi fare back home. He was so poorly paid that he'd walk several miles back home so he could add the taxi fare he'd claimed to stretch his income! Really shows the huge gap between the classes in the late Victorian era.
It would have been Marlborough House not Clarence House
@@pedanticradiator1491 You are right. I was not checking every detail before I posted! Sorry. Also, on thinking further, this might have happened after the prince became king. I was told this sometime in the 1950s, or '60s, and the gentleman who told me was pretty old by then, and a rookie cop when assigned to the unglamorous task of security (imagine standing outside the mistress's house in the rain for hours!), so he could have been in this assignment in the 1880s at the earliest or before 1910 at the latest.
@Nicky L Definitely not. This was a gentleman I met at my grandparents' home, when i was in my late teens or very early 20s at latest, in the late 1950s, I think. He was the father of a friend of my grandparents, then in their sixties. He must have been in his late seventies or eighties, even. His story was about when he was a very young policeman in the Metropolitan Police (London). So it must have been either in the late years of Victoria's reign, or just possibly when Edward VII was king.He told us a lot more, but I remembered this because of the thought of him walking home several miles in the night, to save the taxi fare--his pay was minimal. And the thought of him standing patiently outside the house for hours, to make sure no assassins got to royalty!
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It indeed does. The disparity was - and still is - astounding
In England, every monarch has had a nickname and I must say that the nicknames for Edward VII are my personal favourites:
"Dirty Bertie" and (the most clever) "Edward the Caresser" 😅😂
all of them do?
@@Colinop More or less
@@areiaaphrodite what are some other interesting ones?
@@Colinop I mean they're not as fun as Edward VII's but for example, John of England was called "Soft -Sword" both because he was considered to be a military disaster and had trouble getting it up. Meanwhile, Henry VII was called "The Accountant" because he was extremely frugal to the point of being nearly cheap lol
@@areiaaphrodite interesting interesting, where could one go to find other nicknames
Rosa was amazing XD the audacity to hang a portrait of the Kaiser upside down IN THE TOILETS during a world war then later emerge out of a bombing trumpeting with rage is just hilarious to me like nothing was going to stop this woman from doing what she wanted
Despite all his mistresses, I give Edward credit for being kind to his wife Alexandra and protecting her from the wrath of his mother. He never vilified her rebelliousness and love for their children, unlike Charles who only had one mistresses and was cruel to Diana.
and sonb henry viii too
@@bricktam i know like sonbby henry viii
I think if he had been decent to Diana and treated her kinder people would not feel the way they do about him. I can't change my mind about him because of that.
I would like to see instances where Charles have been cruel to Diana, or was the source of the information from Netflix
@@rockthecasbah6450 If you're referring to the Diana tapes, that's exactly where it came from. Not just from Netflix but pretty much published after her death. Who better than to hear from than Diana herself? Even Charles admitted his unfaithfulness in an interview and his intention to keep Camilla in his life, divorce or no divorce.
Have you ever considered doing a video on the 4 wives of William the Silent, Prince of Orange? He was kind of a Dutch Henry VIII due to the way he went through wives, and his marital history includes a scandalous divorce, adultery, even a shocking assassination (though I won’t say who died). His Wikipedia page is a surprisingly fascinating read. 🇳🇱Love your channel
I would also love this too!!
Going to hop on over to Wikipedia lol. I love reading about royals, mostly British, but, hey, I like to broaden my horizons too lol.
Great idea!
She did. In the Queens of England video,abdx Queen and King's Condorts video series too
@@mediocremaiden8883 that's different william
This was really fascinating! I'm surprised that mistresses were treated so well and was one of the only ways non-noble women could rise in ranks. I was surprised to learn that Camilla Parker Bowels descended from a royal mistress
So was Dianna Spencer.
Camilla Bowels! Perfect!
You'll have a hard time finding a nobleman in UK who isn't the descendant of at least one royal mistress because of Charles II. He had more than a dozen illegitimate children. All the daughters married noblemen and the sons became peers. Diana herself had two of those sons as her ancestors.
@@G.SCmaria Well, I am glad Charles II took care of his mistresses and illegitimate children. That's more than some men do nowadays
What a surprise History repeats..
My great-grandfather, William Blenheim, was one of the first electricians. He got the contract to install electricity into Windsor Castle; it gave him access to all parts. His wife Georgina was a keen social climber and insisted he take her to work so she could see the inside of the castle. Bertie took a close interest in the installation, and, on meeting Mrs Blenheim, took a closer interest in her. Thereafter he would come to make sure that William Blenheim was at work, then he would go to Egham and call on Mrs Blenheim. The whole town knew, but if William knew he kept quiet about it and profited fom the Royal patronange.
Gotta respect the grind tho lmao
One finds this a very dubious claim.
@@Janus-fn2uz Not a claim.I know the provenance of it and I know the outcome. Doubt all you wish. If you want to check with Windsor Caste about the original electrical installation, please do.
So maybe you are a descendent Bertie's? 😉
@@suryahitam3588 I hope not! As it was put with great cruelty by my cousin: "I would rather be a clever Blenheim than a thick Hanoverian."
"Bertie was finally able to combine his two great loves: food and women"
Me: "Oh God, I do NOT want to see the chair he had made for THAT!" 🤢😂
🙈😂😂😂 But I guess it would also be finely decorated.
To quote one of my former 8th graders on seeing the “family tree” of the Greek gods, “Damn, he couldn’t keep it in his pants!”. He, of course, immediately clapped his hands over his mouth and fervently apologized for swearing in class. I told him the apology was definitely accepted and that he was correct, Zeus couldn’t keep it in his pants. I’d say Bertie had a lot in common with Zeus.
It’s a shame that Victoria blamed Bertie for his father’s death when he couldn’t have had nothing to do with it. Her cold shoulder towards him for 40 years meant she missed out on finding out how his natural sociability could have benefited her reign. In his case, as a mother, Victoria really screwed it up.
Lol I took a mythology class a couple semesters ago and I can definitively say that Zeus was a hundred times worse than this dude at keeping it in his pants. There are similarities, but Zeus absolutely wins the trophy for not keeping it in his pants lmao
Victoria was an exhausting person to be around by the sound of it. If anything it was Victoria herself & her inability to be relaxed & non combative/self involved that wore him out. There's a documentary on Albert & how much he did for England. Ironically without Albert there would be no Victorian age. He did all the work & she took the credit for advancement. He pretty much ran the country.
@@lisachiappetti6092, it was Aaron’s “oh shit” facial expression when he said it that was priceless. I’m sure he thought I was going to get really mad at him, but honestly, it was all I could do not to laugh out loud. Obviously Bertie wasn’t as bad as Zeus, but he absolutely made the rounds more than some others.
@@SpringerA1984, I wouldn’t say he ran the country, but he definitely helped advance interests that Victoria wouldn’t have otherwise given his fascination with emerging technologies like steam engines and industrialization. He encouraged and championed innovations in areas where she had little understanding or experience. In that respect, yes, he did have a huge impact on Great Britain and the nation it was becoming during her reign.
That had me laughing louder and longer than what was probably appropriate! The kid was right though!
There is a story that Edward once told Lily Langtry "I've spent enough on you to build a battleship" to which she replied, "You've spent enough in me to float one"
WOW
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Fact or fiction?
I am from Ramsgate. It is reputed that King Edward VII, like his mother, Queen Victoria, regularly visited the town. It is said that he frequented a notorious brothel, in what is now, appropriately, Royal Road. It is now a popular pub. Oh, for a time machine!
I love reading the comments and learning so much from people around the world! Thank you everyone!
It's interesting that Alexandra liked Alice Keppel better because she was actually discreet compared to Daisy Greville. It's also interesting that Alice actually had legitimate concerns about Edward's health and tried to get him to take care of his health better. Also, didn't Alexandra have a good laugh once because she saw Edward walking with one of his mistresses (I don't know if it was Alice Keppel) and both were pretty portly?
EDIT 8/03/2023: You really have to wonder just how many of Edward's affairs and how much of his personal lifestyle can (or should? not sure which word to use here) be attributed to him not being able to stand and therefore hating a lot of things such as being blamed for his father's death and therefore he tried to rebel as much as humanly possible without seriously compromising his position as Prince of Wales and later as King. And as many have said, when you think about what Edward must have endured at Osborne House, you might end up kind of understanding a bit as to why he absolutely disliked it and had plans for making it public grounds aside from the Naval College he planned on having built there.
Alexandra of Denmark turned a blind eye,as many wives did and probably still do.
I can see Alexandra preferring one mistress to the other. Mistresses could climb their way to the top, but better show respect for The Wife. The Wives often had a lot of power themselves.
@@EmmaJo-e She was a princess trained to be a Queen, and so she would have been instructed early how Royal Marriages work, and how best to get along with a spouse as a friend working partner rather than as "the love of her life".
Not true. When her husband had died princess Alexandra ordered her staff to "throw that woman out".
@@ann-carolinemorner6405Where did you read that?
Lilly Langtry was a boss. That was one determined, hustling lady that stayed about her bag.
She is my favorite mistress! Strong woman! Loved the 70s PBS show about her!
@@SarahGreen523 I remember that series and loved it. I purchased it a couple of years ago.
@@IrishAnnie Lilly is intresting one. One specelate that Irene Adler from Sherlock Holmes is inspired by her
Jennie Jerome was pretty amazing, too.
Lillie.
i love these videos because they introduce us to so many amazing badass women who were so much more than just one king's mistress. Thank you for that Lindsay
What is so badass about opening your legs?
Reference is to their entrepreneurship, acting skills, wartime nursing, and political acumen (and in many cases their challenging of very restrictive cobtemporary social strictures) as opposed to their sex lives.
@@galacticguardian2783 umm back in the day, the only traditional types of career women were allowed to do was "opening their legs", as you call it. Do you somehow live in the bubble and think that those who were regular housewives didn't "open their legs"? Please, in those days women were literally pressured as a girl to marry someone and become a birthing machines, no education, no other career endeavor, nothing else, they were often used by their own families in strategic marriage too, just for money, how was that not "opening their legs"?
Bravo to all women who defied the traditions and went single or made the name for themselve and not for other people.
@@est9949 Is that your opinion of your mother and the role she may have played in birthing and raising you? You people are really sick in the head and it shoes.
So instead of being "birthing machines" you think they would be better off as wageslaves for the corporates and sex slaves for the oggling eyes on the interent? Because according to you that's somehow empowering as compared to being a mother?
Suggestion: Illegitimate royal children that ended up having pretty good lives.
research was done a few years ago into Prince Albert's health and his diaries and doctors notes were all studied by medical experts and it is now generally believed that Albert had Crohns disease, which was not a known disease at that time. According to records, Albert had been showing symptoms of the disease for some time and was often ill, with the illness worsening as he got older. Typhoid was very common at that time, so the symptoms he showed were assumed to be typhoid. But it was Crohns disease that killed him.
I can't remember the source, but Albert suspected that he had stomach cancer.
@@christianpatriot7439 That would go along with having Crohns disease. If it's left untreated it will in fact lead into stomach/colon cancer. I've had Crohns for 34 years.
@@donna6368 Is either one age related? Was Albert old enough?
@@christianpatriot7439 Age isn't a factor. You can develop it at any age. I became sick at 19. My oldest daughter is now developing the symptoms of it and she's 23. Doctors still don't know how you get it and have still found no cure. There are alot of new meds available to maintain the symptoms but unfortunately none have worked for me. I have to be extremely careful of stress, physical activity and diet. I've had 1 major surgery that took 2 1/2 feet of small bowel and my appendix. I wouldn't wish Crohns on anyone. It's very painful and debilitating. By the time I was diagnosed at 24 I weighed 95 lbs. The doctors were positive my Crohns had went to cancer but I was lucky and pathology reports showed I was cancer free.
Yeah GOOD RIDDANCE WHAT A PERVERTED BEAST AND STILL GOES ON TODAY
There's a story that when he was visiting either Moscow or St Petersburg's bumpin' nightlife scene, he was ogling a stunning young woman and slipped her his lodging's address. She never showed, because 'she' was in fact Prince Felix Yusupov in drag.
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I want this to be true SO BADLY
Yaaasssss Queen!!
I read about it in the book "Nicholas and Alexandra". The author said that it was true. And Prince Felix Yusapov was actually one of Rasputin's assassins.
Lol they still should've showed up, just to see Edward's reaction 😂
Amazing video! I love learning about the personal lives of royals. The illegitimate children and mistresses are always very fascinating!
Surprised Lindsay didn't mention that the section where the mistresses sat at his coronation was nicknamed "The King's Loose Box" (a "loose box" is apparently something to do with horse stables as well as a rude double entendre)
I also think it was because of the ruffling sound their dresses made when they shook them
@@davidcorruthers78 ???
I also remember the camera panning to Camilla as Diana walked down the aisle with Charles? Some things never change? They might call them courtesans .....I have a different name for all of them. Obviously the morals of her great grandmother was passed on to Charles's mistress? NONE.
I love that Jenny Jerome refused to give up high-heeled shoes for her sense of fashion. But I'm sorry she died for the cause of heels.
Rosa Lewis, who was a renowned cook & owner of the Cavendish Hotel, is a fascinating woman.
If you ever have the opportunity to watch 'The Duchess of Duke Street', it's a great fictionalized retelling of her life. I saw it when I was younger & have never forgotten the character, nor the actress Gemma Jones who did such a marvellous job bringing the character to life.
It's a great series and she is a great actress.
@@SymphonyBrahms Amen! Every time I see her in roles now, I immediately remember The Duchess of Duke Street & how good Gemma Jones was in it. I was young, but I remember anticipating the next episode every week, lol.
@@tothelighthouse9843 Gemma Jones, who played The Duchess, later played Madam Pomfrey, the head nurse at Hogwarts, in the Harry Potter films.
Can you do a full video on Prince Albert Victor aka Eddy? (Edward’s oldest son and who was supposed to be king) his romance with French Princess Helene is heartbreaking.
OMGGG YASSSS
Please do a video on him!
I would find that interesting too. I’d also like to hear about Prince Albert Victor’s relationship with Princess May, to whom he became engaged to.
Yesss let’s do a video on the would-be King Albert!
Ooohhhh there's a RUclips video on him that's brilliant.
I can't imagine the time,effort and research that you put into your well presented productions......Thankyou so much!☕👑
Hear!Hear!
25:32 that is a picture of Princess Alice of Battenberg, Prince Philips mother. That's not Alice Keppel.
I was familiar with Sarah Bernhardt because I have many Alphonse Mucha art books but i didn't know much about her so it was nice to see her featured in your video and I find out about her. She was so cool I might do some more researching ✨✨
I think what also makes her cool was that she crossed dress and took on male characters on stage
Same here - love Alphonse Mucha's artwork, but didn't know much about Sarah Bernhardt until now.
Hi Lindsay me and my grandfather watch your vids every week and they are always great quality
Thank you for a wonderrful program.. I just loved every minute of it. The Duchess of Duke Street is one of my fave series.
I was expecting more drama but frankly it seems like he was a pretty decent guy to have kept such good relationships with so many skilled and adventurous women even after the initial thrill had ended.
That has to do with the fact , I think , that he was a totally unprejudiced person. Because of this , he was not racist , which was very notable in those days , and not a social bigot , despite him being the Prince of Wales he did not treat people who were his social inferiors whether they were men or women , not just women , with the arrogance that was natural and to be expected in those times , of people who were at the summit of the social pyramid in a country that was at the summit of world wealth and power then .
Holy jeez. Who needs shows like Days of Our Lives when you have this type of history to read about!
The Duchess of Duke Street is a wonderful, wonderful series. If you can find it, I highly recommend watching.
My Dad’s favorite!! ❤️
Groan...I was 50/50 on this series...Gemma Jones is repugnant to me, I find her overacting too much..
Loved this series.
Saw it a few weeks ago, loved it. Gemma Jones was beautiful, only knew of her as Bridget Jones' mother.
I love the series. And Gemma Jones, who plays the lead, is a great actress.
God I loved The Duchess of Duke St!…I could watch it over and over again..I bet you loved it too, Lindsay!
Judging by his silent films Lou Tellegen was not the worst actor- he can hold his own when a part called for slightly exaggerated good looks and a touch of melodrama - and preferably some villainy. His death was awful.
I just double checked: Queen Alexandra died just a few months before Queen Elizabeth II was born, so they were not alive at the same time.
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There was a man in Australia, “William Willesden”, who discovered a connection to Queen Elizabeth during the DNA searching of the Romanovs. This man was reportedly born in London, sometime in early 1872 (Susan gave birth in late December 1871), and was sent to Australia with a large amount of money to be adopted by Mr Willesden and Sarah Gale. Sarah Gale was Alexandra’s lady-in-waiting, and Willesden’s sisters were governesses to Albert, George and Louise.
Wowwww that’s crazy how the mistresses seem to make it a family business where daughters and granddaughter remain in the royal circle and get together with younger generations. Just wow
I mean, you gotta climb the ladder somehow, and might as well keep it going in the family, if it benefits you. 🤷
In that era, they felt that lifestyle was necessary to provide security for their heirs; also it's a control issue, who is using who..? Just don't cross over "the line" (whatever that could be), where one could lose their position. The current Duchess of Cornwall seems to have that "old school" thought process. It will be interesting to see how things go when Elizabeth passes away; how well can Charles maintain the monarchy..? I doubt he has the ability to handle the generation gap that now exists.
It's the exact same business of the royal family in the past, and even noble families today, marrying off their own daughters to other royal families to maintain status and power (overdone to the point of inbreeding). The only difference is that these mistress families haven't reached the top rank of the marriage game so they have to be satisfied with being mistresses.
Diana's paternal grand mother Cynthia spencer was once girlfriend of Queen Elizabeth II'S uncle Edward VIII and he was also Godfather of John Spencer (Diana's father) John Spencer's full name is Edward John Spencer in honor of his Godfather Edward VIII and Camila's great-grand mother Alice Kepple was Edward VII'S mistress.
I have been waiting for this. He was a womanizer. Damn 50 women! Lol. Thanks amazing videos as always. I died when you said Camilla carried on the family tradition of being a mistress 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's nothing to see as admirable. Womanizers are just misogynists. They don't actually love or respect women.
*Camilla. Maybe it’s genetic? 🤔😂
@@Pretermit_Sound hoeish family. 😂😂😂😂
50 women that we know about! Possibly more.
@@IrishAnnie another commenter said 53, but all of this happened so long ago that we’ll probably never know for sure how many.
The real question are :
1. Did Edward VII have sexual relationships with all these woman or not and if that so, wouldn't he be possible to have illegitimate children
2. What are the responses from all the spouse of these woman if they're actually married while hanging arround with Edward VII
About the first question, it is possible since victorian birth control aren't 100% effective, there is another rumor that Camilla was actually a descendant of Edward but illegitimate and for the second question well probably kept shut since the benefits are great deal that their mouth can be shut and also they move on with their lives so they don't have a say to their decision.
@@cyrilmarasigan7108 Camilla shares a resemblance with her distant cousin Judith Keppel the first jackpot winner of the TV quiz Who Wants to Be A Miillionaire so on thst basis its unlikely she is descended from Edward
I'm surprised by the lack of illegitimate children but most of his mistresses we're married so children born would be claimed by the husbands. And as far as the husbands responses, I'm sure they benefitted financially from their wife's position and gifts and most likely were having affairs of their own.
To the first one possible Camilla is "allegedly his descendant", hardly doubt it tho. Only way we would know is a DNA test.
@Estefania Upper class Victorian hostesses often had weekend sleepover events. Couples were invited, but a discreet 'black book' listed who was sleeping with who, so rooms were assigned close by so the lovers could tiptoe into each other's room.
More of this, please!! It's so interesting learning about women's life in past eras!!
8:21 the blonde in the photo is Maria Theresa Olivia Cornwalis - West, better known as Daisy von Pless (now in Poland), daughter of the aforementioned Maria ("Patsy"), George's sister and sister-in-law Jenny Jerome, not mother-in-law ;)Dutchess Daisy had a sad but very interesting life. And her palace in Książ (near Wałbrzych) is an absolute pearl of architecture, worth to see!
I have always wondered who ratted Bertie out to his parents about Nellie Clifton. It's not the sort of thing one puts in a letter home to mama and papa.
I think he had a male nanny (aide) with him. Someone had to button his shoes, shave him and tell him which outfit to wear for an occasion.
@@richardw3470 Aides do not do things like that. tha'ts valets
Most all royals have spies keeping them informed
@@glen7318 correct oh anal one🤣check your spelling before correcting others SMH
Perhaps the informant was hoping to be generously rewarded with the affair exposed
Important to note that Parisian and Persian are very different!
I can’t believe how many comments were made before someone pointed this out….!
This one seems to have snuck by a truly startling number of viewers? 🤔 I noticed it the first time it popped up and honestly found it distracted me from the rest of the vid s bit, but only in a hilarious way 😂 Thinking of the Comedie François as Bertie's "harem away from home" certainly wouldn't be incorrect!
Suggestion for a video: Kings and Queen Consorts of Greece (from Otto to Constantine II). I know they were mentioned in the Christian IX video but they deserve their own video haha, such an interesting monarchy.
My favourite is Lillie Landry because wow she was smart she used her affair to build herself up to become a success actress and eventually business women that is impressive
She was the first paid influencer
does anyone know how his wife thought abt the mistresses? ik she let one of them see him before he died and mostly looked the other way but ya
She was devastated and heartbroken.
I can imagine hurt, and about Alice Keppel being let in to see him before he died, I’ve heard it’s because she was making a big ruckus outside and wasn’t leaving.
She was Queen of Great Britian and Empress of India, She was trained and groomed to accept this. And she was given no choice but like the person above me replied "She was devastated and Heartbreaken" but was taught to never... Never let it show....and they call us the weaker sex LOL
@@mediocremaiden8883 yea women of high society were rlly held to the double standard and were expected to take their husbands’ mistresses
@@areiaaphrodite ah ok
Every time I watch your wonderful videos, I say to myself “I wish I could see these beautiful people and times myself!” ♥️
I feel the need to defend Lou Tellegen a little bit because he found his niche in silent movies as a handsome leading man. Then he burned his own face off, underwent 1920s plastic surgery, went bankrupt, failed to get into talkies, and stabbed himself to death with sewing scissors at 50. I dunno, I just always felt so damn bad for him. I sure didn't expect to defend a long-dead actor on a video about Edward VII's mistresses, but here we are.
Lindsay, at the 25:34 mark, you have side by side pictures of Alice Keppel & King Edward VII (Bertie). Only that's not Alice Keppel... it's Princess Alice (the late Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh's mother). I had recently watched a documentary on Princess Alice & her children, so I was surprised when I saw her picture next to King Edward VII as one of his mistresses.
To be fair, a Google search on either Alice shows the same photo.
Very interesting! Edward enjoyed a wide acquaintance that led to an amazing variety of mistresses. I'm glad to know about them, especially after their time with Edward. Great video. Cheers. 😀
I didn't realize Edward VII had a lot of mistresses. I only know Lily Langtry, Daisy Warwick & Alice Keppel. I think Edward VII would likely rival Henry VIII Charles II, and Louis XIV in that department. Enjoyed the video.
Louis the 14"s great grandson, Louis the 15th was worse than his great grandfather. He had a problem with too many teenage girls, and even though the French monarchs were expected to be promiscuous, it nearly brought down his throne.
@@algini12 Yeah the Parc-aux-Cerfs. Louise O Grady was one of them and unwisely said the wrong thing about Madame de Pompadour. She was married off in a hurry! Ops. 😅
All those stupid mistresses and he knew bloody nothing about true love. Huh
@@carolinelynch2823 Most royal marriages are arranged. True love is very rare. Tsar Nicholas II who really loved his wife Alexandra was a rare example.
I don’t think he rivaled them because he exceeded them by a big margin . He was unrivaled…. although I do not know about Charles II , who was he ? Charles from where ?
Great video! There were also rumours that Edward had an affair with the famous novelist Marie Corelli, whose books were much admired by him as well as Queen Victoria and Tsarina Alexandra of Russia. He did Know Miss Corelli but there was never any concrete evidence of intimacy, at least to the best of my knowledge.
I enjoyed the video so very much. I had heard about all of his mistresses but you really went into detail. Thank you, I can't wait to watch more. Keep them coming!
Thank you Lindsay!💜💜 Have a great rest of your week!
“Craved loyalty” only one or five children were her husbands. Had many lovers. 😂😂😭
Edward was bedding everyone from from Winston Churchill's mom to Camilla's great grandmother.
"here are a few of his mistresses". Entire screen filled with women. DAMN!!! 😲
Just a pronunciation advice: it's comédie française with a "s" sound not a "k" sound
I find these women far more interesting than the man they have in common.
Awww!This is the topic I DMed you for!!!! Love you!❤️
Love your historical videos. Just a note on the Sarah Bernhardt, The T is silent so it is pronounced bern hard. Also comedy française, the c in française is soft not hard like in cat but soft as in cease, it is pronounced ‘franseys’
Also, Parisian is spelled wrong. You’ve spelled it as “Persian”
I giggled a lot.
Victoria: You're being too wild, here's a wife.
Also Victoria: WaIT NO-
Alice Kepple is the ancestress of Camilla Parker-Bowles...
In fact, when meeting Prince Charles, Camilla opened up with the line "You know, my ancestor and your ancestor used to be lovers... Shall we get on with it then..?"
I suppose the shameless, easy apple doesn't fall far from the shameless, trollop tree 🤷♀️
It’s likely they’re related too. Sonia, Camilla’s grandmother, was the child born during Alice’s time with the King.
@@CSGray-nf2hx Oh that's grim, mate...
@@CSGray-nf2hx 😳😳😳
Okay but I’m ngl that’s lowkey a pretty dope line. Like screw both of them but that was funny lol.
@She'sADangerousWoman Oh yay!! Thank you, I'd like to thank my country of England ❤️ God Save the Queen and all that etc etc
Honestly I need a WHOLE VIDEO on Rosa, she's my favourite!
I love me some out-spoken , spunky women🤣
Oh my god. Sarah Bernhardt- what a performer! Her last words were still worrying about the show! Some very interesting women here!
I think what's really disgusting of all as the fact that Victoria blamed her own son For his father's death that is not only disgusting that is Damn right Cruel
She was a horrible selfish woman who only thought of herself.
So true. She was a very hateful lady to Edward VII & a controlling Mom to her other kids... She was appalled that "Bertie" caroused with actresses and others Queen Victoria deemed as low class...
Victoria herself didn't had a good relationship with her mother, so she didn't knew much about raising children. Albert's death had completely traumatised her to such an extent that when cold-shouldered one of her own daughters who was asking emotional support from her in the aftermath of losing her infant child by stating that the death of a husband is more traumatic for a woman than the death of an infant child (which she had never experienced).
His parents saw him as a total disappointment to them, and treated him poorly most of his life. That is probably why he acted the way he did; he had always been told he wasn't good enough.
That was his own fault for walking in the rain with him after he found our about the fling.
While i am totally against cheating on your partner, I do feel bad for Lady Harriet Mordaunt. It's hard when your partner is not sensitive or understanding towards your well-being. And yes, it is absolutely okay to be busy or pre-occupied. People are busy and have their own lives. However, the time spent with the person close to you is so precious that you'll never get it ever again, if you're gonna keep pushing them away.
One of your best productions. Of course the King’s choice of photogenic society ladies helped!
Tell the mother-in-law the baby is due way AFTER the real due date? WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?!!
25:33 sorry but i don’t think that’s a picture of alice keppel, it is another alice aka alice of battenberg, the mother of prince philip
It kind of creeps me out how they all look so much alike : from then until now.
11:18 She says, “Parisian,” but the text says, “Persian.” Whoops XP
I really feel for Queen Alexandra and what she had to endure with such a faithless husband. He also put her at risk of some std.
Also, ask yourself why she always wore very high necked clothing.
I mean, royal women at that time had no expectations that their husbands would be faithful. They were raised in courts where their fathers, uncles, brothers and every other male relative had mistresses. But his excessive sexual activity was far outside what was considered normal at the time as as you pointed out, a direct risk to her health.
It was said in the video that she didn't rlly gave a fuck and they got along well
Also royal couples at that time were not made out of love (that is fairly new concept tbh)
I'm not rlly sure how much was known about STD's
Royal marriages of that era were predominantly arranged. The Czar of Russia was interested in Alexandria as a mate for his son, but the Brits got her first...the Russians settled for Dagmar, Alex’s younger sister...Dagmar was the mother of Nicholas II, last Czar who as murdered along with his entire family, by the Bolsheviks.....Alexandria was great grandmother to QEII, her descendants still sit on the throne of GB...
@@joseeallyn9950Because she had a scar from a childhood injury around her neck, which is why she wore the chokers. It's basic knowledge.
As usual super informative and interesting. This channel is so fun! Love it 💗
Hello Lindsay, I just love your video. I would like to ask you for a video about what former royals family do these days. Former royal houses from Portugal, France, Germany, Yugoslavia, Russia, Finland, Greece, Poland, Albania, Montenegro, and from my country too Brazil. Some people forget but Brazil already had a monarchy and they are related with the french and German royal houses.
Excellent idea for Lindsay!
Finland never had a Royal family of its own
For those who don't know in 1918 Prince Frederick of the house of Hesse Kassel was elected king of Finland but not even three months after that he renounced. But still it's possible to trace his descendents.
@@vitoriaduarte2002 That's Right,Finland Possibly Could Have Been A Monarchy,That Would Be Fascinating To Trace Frederick's Descendants,Lindsay Should A Video About Them!!! 🥰😍🤩
Harriet Mordaunt’s story is so sad. She shouldn’t have been institutionalized, at least not for over 30 years!
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2:57 Poor prince Albert! 😢
I'm glad you actually detailed the lives of these ladies. They're all super badass! Bertie definitely had a type lmao
I think this video had the most jaw dropping moments for me.
I really enjoy your videos Lindsay. I'm learning so much. Thank you for putting in all the work. It shows. Great stuff
Unrelated but a little unknown fact. Sir Winston Churchill was Princess Diana's distant cousin. To this day, some members of the family still style their last name as Spencer-Churchill.
I'd love to see a video on Prince Albert Victor Duke of Clarence and Avondale (the Heir apparent to Edward VII) Rumours linked him with the Cleveland Street scandal, which involved a homosexual brothel (however, there is no conclusive evidence that he ever visited there, or was homosexual.) Another rumour being he was Jack the Ripper. He died in 1892 aged 28
hardly an unknown fact about the churchills
@@glen7318 it's only known, if you actually know it... Unless you are a history buff or have studied, or read up on Diana or Winston, then you wouldnt know. Many people have never heard of the connection between them, after all they never styled their last names Spencer-Churchill.
I wondered about that as soon as I saw the name
I clicked faster than the speed of light
Amazing video Lindsay, another idea could be the grandchildren of Charles V or his children
Oh like Holy Roman Emperor? That'd be cool!
The Duchess of Dukestreet is one of my favorite shows!!
Queen Alexandra was an incredible lady .
The women who went on kind of a trial for a divorce. Her Ex husband wanted her to be found sane so he was legally able to divorce her. However Bertie wanted her insane so he could say her Claims of sex we a illustrations of.a insane women. He even had his royal Dr testifying to say she was insane. So while she ended up in am asylum her ex was very upset as he could nor divorce her and had ro pay for her treatments. Also queen Victoria believed him when he said he did not sleep with her she believed she was insane
Fantastic video! I'd also really love to see one on King Louis XIV's mistresses as well!
Omg yes I would kill for this!!! Would love to see her do a video!
Yess! Since it was hard to keep track who are his mistresses but definetely would be fun to watch, i wish lindsay also create louise xv's mistresses also
Now that's a video
This was very interesting and I enjoyed it very much. Glad you used pictures/portraits of the People. It made the documentary more accessible to see who you were talking about.
He strikes me less a horrible philandering monarch, and more as some one who was more laid back than the norm. Importantly he seems to have surrounded himself with like-minded people
He enjoyed the attraction
To Females he wanted .
Nonetheless he spent money outside of the Palace and moved in circles he wanted.
A wonderful freedom to have in his mothers harsh time Victorian England 🇬🇧
I see him as a philandering fat pig? Only King for 11years ...the last couple he could barely walk with gout and other problems to do with his obesity? I see NOTHING positive about a man shaming his wife. Camilla is just carrying on the morals of her great grandmother..who basically slept around to get money to keep their estate going?? THAT is called PROSTITUTION.
@@suzyfarnham3165 clearly wd have different understandings of humanity. I do not feel a person's weight has any reflection on their morality or how they select consenting partners. I also have no issues with sw. It appears you disagree.
Can you do the women who should of been queens but weren’t aloud because they were women
thank you so much for your wonderful in detailed historical information. fascinating...thank you again from this old eighty one year old woman from boston, massachsuetts usa.
That was wonderful !!👏👏👏 ALL of these ladies were so beautiful and talented in their own right … At one point I was surprised that there were yet MORE !! God bless his wife though - she could not have been any more gracious .
That’s the problem with that family. No rules apply to them whether legal or moral.
What a grandiose and entertaining life most of these woman live!
Great video!
Fascinating that among Bertie's lady friends was Jennie Jerome later to be the mother of Winston Churchill. I wonder if Winston was ever told considering he and his mother were not close.
loved this, you worked alot for this one~