@@mariesabine2385 the fake birth certificate alone would have done it. It was to make her a "proper woman", wich doesn't make sense nowadays. I mean, some people do still think badly of single woman, but that would be the least of the worries on this scenario
Any mistress needs to be married so that when she gets pregnant by the lover, she can say the child is her husband's child. The husband doesnt care anyway since marriages in those days were arranged and not love marriages and he has his own side chick anyway. And if the king wants your wife as his lover, the husband is treated generously and when the king is done with her, she returns home with armfuls of diamonds and a chateau or two. In the case of the king's mistress, the rules were that she needed to be from the aristocracy. So since Jeanne was a commoner, it was organized that she be married off to a count (he was paid to marry her) so that she could have a title and therefore be eligible to be the king's maitresse en titre.
Zamour was treated more like a pet than a person, that's why he turned on her so quickly during the revolution, there's no such thing as a good slave owner
@@hahs3489- Yeah, they caused so much misery, poverty & death to common people. All so they could live very wealthy, privileged lives themselves. As their country would go through famine, etc.. they would feast, as if they didn't have a care in the world. They wore jewelry & clothes, etc that were so expensive, it all could have fed & housed thousands of families in their country. It's all so obscene & gross. And these people weren't any more special than anybody else, or more "deserving" of it. But that's monarchy & nobility for you. 🙄 SMH
And a smelly one too. They actually reeked unless you were privy to a daily bath and had the desire to bathe to begin with. They thought layers of body oils, sweat, and dirt acted as a barrier to disease and infections so in a way, they built up their immune systems being constantly exposed to filth. Lots of people don't know it, but they are the reason why perfume was invented. To cover up the odor.
I know. He always looks epic no matter what character he's playing. Of course Depp is way better looking than Louis the 15th was (according to paintings and text comparisons), but it still worked.
Fun fact: Jeanne du Barry was the primary antagonist to Marie Antoinette and Lady Oscar in the early seasons of the 1979 Japanese anime series Rose of Versailles. Jeanne's portrayal is largely fantastical but overall the anime does try to be somewhat historically accurate. I thoroughly enjoyed it and it hasn't aged too badly for a 70s anime. It's pretty easy to find online if anyone wants something new to binge.
Considering how many sad, tragic stories we have of women in history, especially unmarried mothers and women who got tangled up with royalty, it's a nice surprise to hear how Jeanne took care of her mother throughout her early career. It probably would have been easier to leave her mother behind, but she didn't. I knew she died, I didn't realize her downfall was due to a former slave getting retribution! That's some irony there, considering her own childhood as the "pet" of a rich woman ... whereas that acting led to her education and social climbing, Zamor had no hope of a life change until the revolution. I hope Zamor lived a good life, little is known about him after Jeanne's demise. I can't fathom the horror of being kidnapped and enslaved as a child, living in a strange land ... and then the audacity of his captors to expect him to be "loyal" to them!
Always dreading on the negative. Alternatives likely would have included hard labor slavery , gruelling physical abuses and death. Here he was given a lavish life . Jeanne did not ask for him, he was presented as a gift to her for companionship . As she could never hold the company of another . You will recall Louis grandma had a Nigerian dwarf that impregnated her …. So …. There have been far worse fates deposed upon a “slave” .
I doubt it. With Napoleon restoring slavery and the population of France in 2024 still being wildly racist, I sincerely doubt his life thereafter was fulfilling, free or long.
@@lorimayhill6056 Enslavement could never be justified, however considering the fates which could have awaited him or any servant in this period of deathly poverty, he was fortunate. Loot he obtained might have supported him and his family for life.
I’d say 50/50 chance he had a happy life afterwards. After awhile the revolution started getting too overzealous. And many people who were involved in starting the revolution found themselves on the receiving end of the guïlløtine. It was not a safe time for anyone, you might think as a peasant you’d be safe. But if you were suspected of being pro-monarchy, or weren’t passionate about the ‘revolution’ you could face the same fate as the nobility.
Its a good film, puts a better spin on her relationship with Louis but it HIGHLY fictionalises her relationship Zamou. She mistreated him badly so its no wonder he turned on her
Maïwenn gave herself the role (she was the director) but she wasn't Jeanne Du Barry. She was Maïwenn doing a cosplay of Jeanne Du Barry but she was unwilling to step into her skin and let go of her modern worldview to embody the character. Which is why la Du Barry seems to be unable to do anything wrong in this movie, every decision she makes is the right one, everyone who doesn't like her is a villain.
She actually did not, I read the book... she loved children, couldn't have any... Zamor was also Indian, it's sad that he was taken away from his parents...
@@lisac6399Bro, how are you going to romanticize slavery? Are you really going to stand up for monarchy and not the thousands of people starving and millions that died over the centuries for these rich assholes? The same shit is going on now, but oh capitalism so good. Ignoring the fact that feudalism came before capitalism and are on equal playing fields. I can’t stand you sympathizers. It’s my main critique of this channel is making out these monarchs as good people. They were not. They were enslavers.
Ah! The affair of the necklace! Such an incredible story that when I first read about it in the Lady Oscar manga I was not sure how much of it was real.
@@susannairisastarte5192 No. That's a fictional story from the 1880s. "The Affair of the Necklace" is a true historical event that led to the French Revolution. The movie is a great representation of the events as they unfolded. The Necklace was was broken apart and sold in pieces, so it no longer exists, except in sketches of what it looked like.
@ruyfernandez The Affair of the Necklace is an actual historical event that's worth reading about the actual events. It's nice that Japanese Anime mentions it, but the actual story is more fascinating.
What's creepy is that I was just looking up examples of women of "common" backgrounds--as in completely common, not even minor nobility, who married into nobility and even royalty. Then boom! This video pops up
You did a really great job on this. Thank you. I was happy to hear you had the part about Zamore and Duc de Brissac and his rolling head and some other things people usually leave out. She was so beautiful and much more than other women back then and she was a sweet woman. I went to see her apartments in Versailles it's much nicer than the rest of the palace. and I also love Petit Trianon and Marie Antoinette's little village, I was in Paris on the anniversary of MA's death and that was special. I have a ton of books about everyone from that period but then one day I thought what about my own ancestors who were they and since they were not royal it would be harder for me to learn anything about them. What I discovered was that I could find several books where they were mentioned even though a lot were ordinary people so I started collecting because we only hear about royals and not about everyone else and that has been a great hobby to get to know my own people and find out I did have well known people in my family and Viking kings. For anyone who loves history look for your own ancestors, you can find a lot online often people have put their family trees online and that's a help.
This was a particularly moving story. My mother‘s name is Madeleine and her maiden name was Barry. I believe that I’ve heard anyway that we are related to her. Thank you for this meaningful documentary.
A great movie on this is "The Affair of the Necklace" with Hillary Swank as Jean de la Motte. And Jolie Richardson as the Queen. It focuses mainly around that fantastic diamond necklace that was originally made for Mdme Dubarry from the king. But the king died before he could give it to her or even pay for it, so the jewelers tried to get the queen to buy it, and of course, she refused. This movie is about stealing that necklace. True story.
What a sad story, but a cautionary one as well. It should be told and taught more often to younger people. If I were a history teacher, I’d stream your videos once a week for my class.
her pleading for that girl to be freed who experienced a still birth and had to hide it, is something admirable and something I fear many women in america will have to go through as our healthcare becomes more difficult
What the heck are you talking about? Pre-revolution France and modern day America aren’t even close to the same level of life difficulty or lack of rights, you’re just privileged.
What EXACTLY should be googled? How medical examiners can tell if a baby was, in fact still born or born alive then died due to either malicious intent or ignorance on what to do immediately following a birth? A noticeable difference between now and the 1700s. Additionally, women's healthcare is not in danger. What a hyperbolic thing to say. While I try not to assume, I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that your comment was pertaining to a procedure planned parenthood specializes in. Its important to keep in mind they offer ZERO prenatal care.. They still offer the pill, the shot, condoms and everything a girl needs to be responsible BEFORE an unwanted pregnancy happens.
I admire her rise from rags to riches, but I do wish there was a way a woman could achieve success and wealth in that time period that didn’t involve having to sleep with nasty older men, be it through marriage or mistresshood
They weren't aloud to work other than labor jobs or being a governess and were paid a pittance of what their male counterparts were, if they did earn money in a legitimate way and were married anything they earned would belong to there husbands and later there male children. Women weren't educated in practical things it was very rare for a woman to be educated above the level of a 10 year old by today's standards ( except maybe in languages upper class women were taught multiple languages) and if they were lucky enough to have a male family member who aloud them to further education they weren't aloud to do anything with that education.
It was a very hard time to be a woman. There were successful middle class women who were business women but the truly rich were usually nobility and then that system was very much about who you slept with. And part of what caused the French revolution was that there was such a significant difference between the rich and other classes
I absolutely love your videos! I've been captivated by the unique content you create and the engaging way you present it. Perhaps you could consider creating videos about the queens and princesses from the Balkans and Romania, during the period from 1850-1950. I think their fascinating histories and the rich cultural backdrop of that era would make for some truly compelling content. Looking forward to potentially seeing this idea come to life in your future work!❤
I have a request: can you make a video about Madame de Pompadour? Not much is known about her and I would love to know about the history of this woman. I've seen mentions about her in like anime and a few movies. I even looked up if she's even a real person. I thought it'd be nice to talk about her since I think she was mistress before du Barry. I might be wrong so I'm sorry if I get the timeline wrong
Mind you not even his first great grandson Louis XV had an elder brother who was shockingly also called Louis that died less then a month after his father
Your voice and narration are the Best lindsay! Your hardwork is always appreciated! You're WAY better than all those AI documentaries out there put together😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
Completely agree! As I was watching I actually had a moment of appreciation for Lindsay's narration. More and more frequently, I click on videos only to hear the robotic spasm, or worse, vaguely human voice that suspiciously never needs to breathe AI nonsense and frankly, it pisses me off. It's so lovely to hear an actual person talking to us 💕
Imagine what an insane reality tv show the French aristocracy would have made in those days! The brutality of French court during King Louie IV, the sadness of the loves lost of his grandson, followed by the stallion he became and all those women! The fashions..Madame Pompadour’s hairstyles..young Madam du Barry and her..adventures?!? would have had many glued to the tv lol and the villain Robespierre, what a monster.. he would have us voting him off the show for ruining all the fun…and for the last season, enter Napoleon!
Women in nobility always had their quiet share of extramarital escapades also, most times it was often overlooked as long as it wasn’t publically flaunted. This was of course, after the heir and spare had been produced.
If my 🦪 looked like the cave of wonders after birthing 10 of his kids, I'd be mad too. The only court I'd want to see his mistresses in is divorce court.
I love your knowledge of this subject . Louis 15 also loved her derriere and had her painted for his eyes Only ,but now you can buy them on postcards in the streets of Paris 💗
18:47- Hey, so does anyone have an idea how the hell that big diamond necklace would be worn? Like is it supposed to be the ties, is there a clasp, cause those ties look decorative.
Interesting to know the true story behind the movie, thanks! I’d only say the last phrase is rather inaccurate, it was not “her ambition” that cut her life short, it was the bloody and violent ahemmm I mean fraternal revolution!! 😅
This is the first time one of your videos made me cry, Lindsay. What a horrible end to her life. She didn't really do anything wrong her entire life. She did a lot with what she was given in life. The way she was treated growing up, so many people would have ended up differently. She should have lived her life out in her beautiful country home and died if old age. Poor woman.
Wow. She is if nothing else, a fascinating woman. What a tragic ending. Also I think that reaction to the guillotine is more relatable than most. You often hear of people that are unusually calm. If I’m not mistaken, she didn’t ask the king to spend that much money on the necklace. I get now why you mentioned she wasn’t even a political figure. Was she well-known in her time? Like even commoners knew about her?
This was so good so good thank you so much so interesting, isn't she also the lady who they kind of got the archetype of the dumb blonde from? I don't remember but I thought that was someone with the last name of Dewberry as well
The French revolution and the bloodbath it became is just so sad to me. How people could think that killing people for small things was ok is just crazy. (Heck, most of the time they were actually innocent.) Don't get me wrong... the "people" were starving and were being taxed literally to death while the aristocracy overindulged and had so much excess and waste. They demanded more money and really didn't care about the "people" that funded their lifestyle. Justice and reform would have been to redistribute their wealth and step then if the luxury they lived in and made to live like they were. However the mobs twisted "justice" into something so perverse and despicable. It just goes to show you the power of the mob. No one person would believe these acts were just. But when they are together in a group that evilness grows and the gates of chaos are unleashed.
Hi, a lovely and well-done video, as always 🥰. I need your help, the image of du Barry's château is baffling me. The château and surrounding sky and trees look like a photograph, however the plants and gate in the foreground look painted. I zoomed in to 600%, and I just can't tell. Will you please end my confusion and clarify that for me? If it's a painting, the photo-realism is insane, if it's a photograph, the foreground doesn't look at all like one. I really enjoy your videos, you always find such beautiful images (photos & paintings both 😁), and your writing and recitation are truly enjoyable. Thank you!
Amazing how the police back then without the tech we have today were able to track down her jewels in another country but today they can't find squat and if they do they have excuses not to give it back unless taken to court.
Lindsay, can you make a video of Karin Månsdotter, daughter of a soldier/commonor who became Queen Consort of Sweden through her marriage to Eric XIV of Sweden?
22:33 wrong, it wasn't Louis that offered the necklace to his wife, it was the jewellers Boehmer and Bassenge that made the extravagant necklace that offered the necklace to Marie Antoinette.
i feel like ambition implies purposely plotting. When hearing her story she seemed less ambitious and more able to make due with her skill and situation. Her particular beauty meet the standards of the time, and her understanding of how the society and men of the time opperated seemed her biggest asset. Is it ambitious or survival in the most opportune sitch? Given that there weren't a lot of choices for comfort, education, or ownership for women in the past.
Unlike Britain, in France, all the children of a count, for instance, inherited the title. At the time of the Revolution, there were hundreds of thousands of members of the nobility.
I've heared that if preaphs all the peopole sent to their death during the the terror, had bean as fearful of death as Jeanne, preaphs it wouldn't have lasted as long as it did.
It seems that you have some incorrect information regarding the de Mailly sisters. Louise Julie de Mailly-Nesle was never made a duchesse and did not ask for much from the king. Pauline’s part is correct . As for Diane, the image you used seems to be of her sister, Marie-Anne de Mailly-Nesle, who was the one who asked the king to make her a duchesse if he wished to have her in his bed. Marie-Anne was also the one who had her eldest sister, Louise Julie, forced to leave the court in 1742.
He insisted his lover needed to be married so they could continue their affair in a more proper manner? Gosh, how times have changed
well then there's all the affairs that, you know, never got "formalized".
It seems the main purpose of the marriage was to make her a noblewoman rather than a commoner?
@@mariesabine2385 the fake birth certificate alone would have done it. It was to make her a "proper woman", wich doesn't make sense nowadays. I mean, some people do still think badly of single woman, but that would be the least of the worries on this scenario
Any mistress needs to be married so that when she gets pregnant by the lover, she can say the child is her husband's child. The husband doesnt care anyway since marriages in those days were arranged and not love marriages and he has his own side chick anyway. And if the king wants your wife as his lover, the husband is treated generously and when the king is done with her, she returns home with armfuls of diamonds and a chateau or two. In the case of the king's mistress, the rules were that she needed to be from the aristocracy. So since Jeanne was a commoner, it was organized that she be married off to a count (he was paid to marry her) so that she could have a title and therefore be eligible to be the king's maitresse en titre.
@@anastasia10017 I understood, I just don't think it would work like that nowadays
“There are a lot of people at Versailles today.”
Yes there are.
Marie Antoinette ate with this 😭
"Yes there are" "Those are my last words to that woman" Marie Antoinette slayed
“She just burped” always sends me. The whole scene is just gold!
Lol!! 😂 I love that movie and that scene is gold ✨️
Zamour was treated more like a pet than a person, that's why he turned on her so quickly during the revolution, there's no such thing as a good slave owner
I love learning about history but this channel is so apologetic to monarchies throughout history despite their very immoral behaviour
@@hahs3489- Yeah, they caused so much misery, poverty & death to common people. All so they could live very wealthy, privileged lives themselves. As their country would go through famine, etc.. they would feast, as if they didn't have a care in the world. They wore jewelry & clothes, etc that were so expensive, it all could have fed & housed thousands of families in their country. It's all so obscene & gross. And these people weren't any more special than anybody else, or more "deserving" of it. But that's monarchy & nobility for you. 🙄 SMH
It's shomor dear. She pronounced it wrong. And it must be india because Bangladesh didn't exist then
@@roy0402 its in modern day Bangladesh.
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Mid to late 1700's French aristocracy really was a rollercoaster ride.
Honestly, no rest or space for privacy or introvercy but also you could be dropped or raised in status at any time 😮
And a smelly one too. They actually reeked unless you were privy to a daily bath and had the desire to bathe to begin with. They thought layers of body oils, sweat, and dirt acted as a barrier to disease and infections so in a way, they built up their immune systems being constantly exposed to filth. Lots of people don't know it, but they are the reason why perfume was invented. To cover up the odor.
@CALLMESIR... I find this strange because even medieval people washed daily and took a full on bath regularly, if not daily.
well at least there were highs….the rest of the people were on the endless misery train!
As far as I’m concerned the monarchy/aristocracy has not changed
I NEED A ROYAL MISTRESS SERIES!
There's videos about Charles 2nd and Louis XIV.
It would be about 5 years long 😂
I agree a series would be fitting she's got a couple. I like the ones about the bastard children 🥴
Hope there are non tragic ones too
Can Mistress who became Queen
omg Johnny Depp as Louis XV is something I was not ready to see
Hi friend. She should have stayed in England.
soon it will be available on apple tv and netflix , don't miss it! amazing movie!!
I know. He always looks epic no matter what character he's playing. Of course Depp is way better looking than Louis the 15th was (according to paintings and text comparisons), but it still worked.
HEY UTUBE... GET OFF MY ASS!!
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Jeanne being the first woman with the "she belong to the street" insult 💀😂
It’s said that Louis XV’s children really hated her and even gave her the nickname “madame putain” (lady wh*re)
Fun fact: Jeanne du Barry was the primary antagonist to Marie Antoinette and Lady Oscar in the early seasons of the 1979 Japanese anime series Rose of Versailles. Jeanne's portrayal is largely fantastical but overall the anime does try to be somewhat historically accurate. I thoroughly enjoyed it and it hasn't aged too badly for a 70s anime. It's pretty easy to find online if anyone wants something new to binge.
I love the series it may not be accurate but it is a great anime to watch
lady oskar ??? japanese garbage ? not thank you
I love old anime. Robotech blew Voltron out of the water. Thank you for the suggestion. :)
AHH TYSM!
Considering how many sad, tragic stories we have of women in history, especially unmarried mothers and women who got tangled up with royalty, it's a nice surprise to hear how Jeanne took care of her mother throughout her early career. It probably would have been easier to leave her mother behind, but she didn't.
I knew she died, I didn't realize her downfall was due to a former slave getting retribution! That's some irony there, considering her own childhood as the "pet" of a rich woman ... whereas that acting led to her education and social climbing, Zamor had no hope of a life change until the revolution. I hope Zamor lived a good life, little is known about him after Jeanne's demise. I can't fathom the horror of being kidnapped and enslaved as a child, living in a strange land ... and then the audacity of his captors to expect him to be "loyal" to them!
Always dreading on the negative. Alternatives likely would have included hard labor slavery , gruelling physical abuses and death. Here he was given a lavish life . Jeanne did not ask for him, he was presented as a gift to her for companionship . As she could never hold the company of another . You will recall Louis grandma had a Nigerian dwarf that impregnated her …. So …. There have been far worse fates deposed upon a “slave” .
@@lorimayhill6056 are you a time traveler from the 1700s trying to defend slavery in our futuristic 2024?
I doubt it. With Napoleon restoring slavery and the population of France in 2024 still being wildly racist, I sincerely doubt his life thereafter was fulfilling, free or long.
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Enslavement could never be justified, however considering the fates which could have awaited him or any servant in this period of deathly poverty, he was fortunate. Loot he obtained might have supported him and his family for life.
I’d say 50/50 chance he had a happy life afterwards. After awhile the revolution started getting too overzealous. And many people who were involved in starting the revolution found themselves on the receiving end of the guïlløtine. It was not a safe time for anyone, you might think as a peasant you’d be safe. But if you were suspected of being pro-monarchy, or weren’t passionate about the ‘revolution’ you could face the same fate as the nobility.
Speaking of Louis XV, I’d like a video on his parents and grandparents as they have a fascinating story of their own.
If you are referring to the Sun King, there is one on him, complete with a moving photo of what they believe he really looked like.
@@shariaguillon7861 no, on his parents and grandparents
And definitely his wife, Marie Leszczńyska
@@shariaguillon7861 the sun king was his great grandfather ....thooo lol
Its a good film, puts a better spin on her relationship with Louis but it HIGHLY fictionalises her relationship Zamou. She mistreated him badly so its no wonder he turned on her
Maïwenn gave herself the role (she was the director) but she wasn't Jeanne Du Barry. She was Maïwenn doing a cosplay of Jeanne Du Barry but she was unwilling to step into her skin and let go of her modern worldview to embody the character. Which is why la Du Barry seems to be unable to do anything wrong in this movie, every decision she makes is the right one, everyone who doesn't like her is a villain.
I guess we watched a different movie.
She actually did not, I read the book... she loved children, couldn't have any... Zamor was also Indian, it's sad that he was taken away from his parents...
@@lisac6399Bro, how are you going to romanticize slavery? Are you really going to stand up for monarchy and not the thousands of people starving and millions that died over the centuries for these rich assholes? The same shit is going on now, but oh capitalism so good. Ignoring the fact that feudalism came before capitalism and are on equal playing fields. I can’t stand you sympathizers. It’s my main critique of this channel is making out these monarchs as good people. They were not. They were enslavers.
No she was a very kind lady from all accounts. Sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative
Ah! The affair of the necklace! Such an incredible story that when I first read about it in the Lady Oscar manga I was not sure how much of it was real.
There's a great movie about it, too.
The Necklace? Written by Guy de Maupassant ?
@@susannairisastarte5192 No. That's a fictional story from the 1880s. "The Affair of the Necklace" is a true historical event that led to the French Revolution. The movie is a great representation of the events as they unfolded. The Necklace was was broken apart and sold in pieces, so it no longer exists, except in sketches of what it looked like.
@ruyfernandez The Affair of the Necklace is an actual historical event that's worth reading about the actual events. It's nice that Japanese Anime mentions it, but the actual story is more fascinating.
Lady Oscar 🌹
I listened to this clip while cleaning a room. The narrator did an excellent job of bringing everything to visual life.
This is an excellent idea actually
Thanks so much, Lindsay! Every week I tune in to enjoy your tea and amazing work! Absolutely loved Madame Barry! Hearth please
Hi Lindsay, I’ve gotten really into all your videos you are a great storyteller! You should do a video on Queen Marie Leszczyńska of France!
"She made the acquaintance of *cough* had an affair" is so funny😂🤣😂🤣
I heard it too😂 lol
Hi Lindsay. I appreciate your work so much. I literaly listen to your story telling every time when I go to sleep, so soothing. Thanks! Keep it up.
Thank you!
What's creepy is that I was just looking up examples of women of "common" backgrounds--as in completely common, not even minor nobility, who married into nobility and even royalty. Then boom! This video pops up
Interesting
When she said King Louis died on may 10 1774 i noticed that I am watching this on 10th of may lol
Middleton...
You did a really great job on this. Thank you. I was happy to hear you had the part about Zamore and Duc de Brissac and his rolling head and some other things people usually leave out. She was so beautiful and much more than other women back then and she was a sweet woman. I went to see her apartments in Versailles it's much nicer than the rest of the palace. and I also love Petit Trianon and Marie Antoinette's little village, I was in Paris on the anniversary of MA's death and that was special. I have a ton of books about everyone from that period but then one day I thought what about my own ancestors who were they and since they were not royal it would be harder for me to learn anything about them. What I discovered was that I could find several books where they were mentioned even though a lot were ordinary people so I started collecting because we only hear about royals and not about everyone else and that has been a great hobby to get to know my own people and find out I did have well known people in my family and Viking kings. For anyone who loves history look for your own ancestors, you can find a lot online often people have put their family trees online and that's a help.
I love the 1919 silent film starring Pola Negri as Madame du Barry.
I saw Johnny Depp as Louis XV and I just saw Grindelwald in a pirate hat.
I saw him as The Libertine, which he also starred in. Also a good historical movie.
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This was a particularly moving story. My mother‘s name is Madeleine and her maiden name was Barry. I believe that I’ve heard anyway that we are related to her. Thank you for this meaningful documentary.
Euh, I don't think Jeanne Bécu had any biological children. So, sorry that's not true!!
@@sweetlikechocolate437 I didn’t say direct descendant. I meant related to the family.
Okay then, how are you(and your family) related to Jeanne, as she never had any children.
Didn’t she have a brother though
A great movie on this is "The Affair of the Necklace" with Hillary Swank as Jean de la Motte. And Jolie Richardson as the Queen. It focuses mainly around that fantastic diamond necklace that was originally made for Mdme Dubarry from the king. But the king died before he could give it to her or even pay for it, so the jewelers tried to get the queen to buy it, and of course, she refused. This movie is about stealing that necklace. True story.
I wondered if the necklace was the same one that Marie Antoinette got conned with. That’s so interesting!
It is.
The guilloyine neck
What a sad story, but a cautionary one as well. It should be told and taught more often to younger people. If I were a history teacher, I’d stream your videos once a week for my class.
her pleading for that girl to be freed who experienced a still birth and had to hide it, is something admirable and something I fear many women in america will have to go through as our healthcare becomes more difficult
What the heck are you talking about? Pre-revolution France and modern day America aren’t even close to the same level of life difficulty or lack of rights, you’re just privileged.
@@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBroshut the fuck up nobody is "privileged" in America. Move to Texas and see just how "privileged" you actually are.
Ru fucking crazy? Touch grass. Those two things are not in any way comparable. A few states limiting abortion is not equal to that b
@@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro A quick google on still birth issues in America in recent years would save you being incorrect.
What EXACTLY should be googled? How medical examiners can tell if a baby was, in fact still born or born alive then died due to either malicious intent or ignorance on what to do immediately following a birth? A noticeable difference between now and the 1700s.
Additionally, women's healthcare is not in danger. What a hyperbolic thing to say. While I try not to assume, I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that your comment was pertaining to a procedure planned parenthood specializes in. Its important to keep in mind they offer ZERO prenatal care.. They still offer the pill, the shot, condoms and everything a girl needs to be responsible BEFORE an unwanted pregnancy happens.
How horrified Marie Antoinette would be using an image of her to represent Madame Dubarry
I really liked this video Lindsay. I like how she smiled at the king with her beautiful violet blue almond shaped eyes. She seems really beautiful.
Agreed
You explain this stuff better than my history teacher keep going girl!
I admire her rise from rags to riches, but I do wish there was a way a woman could achieve success and wealth in that time period that didn’t involve having to sleep with nasty older men, be it through marriage or mistresshood
They weren't aloud to work other than labor jobs or being a governess and were paid a pittance of what their male counterparts were, if they did earn money in a legitimate way and were married anything they earned would belong to there husbands and later there male children. Women weren't educated in practical things it was very rare for a woman to be educated above the level of a 10 year old by today's standards ( except maybe in languages upper class women were taught multiple languages) and if they were lucky enough to have a male family member who aloud them to further education they weren't aloud to do anything with that education.
It was a very hard time to be a woman. There were successful middle class women who were business women but the truly rich were usually nobility and then that system was very much about who you slept with. And part of what caused the French revolution was that there was such a significant difference between the rich and other classes
How? That's just not realistic.
@@jaciriley123 allowed, not aloud
Maybe if your name was Lady Whistledown 🤣
Please do a full video on Madame De Pompadour!
Yes, please!
I absolutely love your videos! I've been captivated by the unique content you create and the engaging way you present it. Perhaps you could consider creating videos about the queens and princesses from the Balkans and Romania, during the period from 1850-1950. I think their fascinating histories and the rich cultural backdrop of that era would make for some truly compelling content. Looking forward to potentially seeing this idea come to life in your future work!❤
I'm just wondering how she could have worn that crazy necklace had she gotten the chance to get it.
I’m so glad that I’m not the only one who is wondering how it would be worn
@Sienna6164 I have been wondering for years honestly. Try wearing that thing when you're trying to eat.
@@AliSakurai I know. Like, what if food falls on it. Should you wear a bib?
I thing the long crossover pieces would have been pinned across the front of whatever gown she wore it with? I did see pictures of a repro once...
@@heidibock1017 Like the jewels, or the ribbons? Cause I always assumed that they would tie around the neck
Thanks so much, Lindsay! Every week I almost feel as if you had me in mind when making your vids! Absolutely loved Mme Du Barry!
Since you have already covered the women of Louis XIV & Napoleon, it would be better to now make a full series on French kings.
Thanks so much for taking us a little back to history
I already knew this story, but you tell it so well. Riveting
“She made the acquaintance of-“ **COUGH COUGH** “HAD AN AFFAIR WITH-“ 😂
I’ve always wanted to know more about her. Thanks!
I have a request: can you make a video about Madame de Pompadour? Not much is known about her and I would love to know about the history of this woman. I've seen mentions about her in like anime and a few movies. I even looked up if she's even a real person. I thought it'd be nice to talk about her since I think she was mistress before du Barry. I might be wrong so I'm sorry if I get the timeline wrong
Not much !!! What are you talking about ? She is way more popular than Madame Du barry .
She already made a video about Madame de Pompadour.
The hairstyle Pompadour was named after her! Do more research than Japanese Anime!
Mind you not even his first great grandson Louis XV had an elder brother who was shockingly also called Louis that died less then a month after his father
Thank you for posting this video I have been waiting all week!!
Your voice and narration are the Best lindsay! Your hardwork is always appreciated! You're WAY better than all those AI documentaries out there put together😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
So freaking true. A real human voice cannot be topped by AI- especially someone as lovely and knowledgeable as Ms. Lindsay Holiday. ✨🩵
Completely agree! As I was watching I actually had a moment of appreciation for Lindsay's narration. More and more frequently, I click on videos only to hear the robotic spasm, or worse, vaguely human voice that suspiciously never needs to breathe AI nonsense and frankly, it pisses me off. It's so lovely to hear an actual person talking to us 💕
Very enjoyable documentary! Paintings and the jewels of the day are spectacular! Thank you
I simply love your videos ❤❤ you’re my official teacher
Holy flip! 10 children for the princess Maria. I applaud her surviving that many in those times.
Thank you for piles 1 and 3 feel good about the future😊
Omg i was waiting for you to talk about her!!!!
Early! You're the Queen of history lindsay! Never miss a video of yours! Can you please consider a video on blessed karl?❤❤❤❤❤❤
Imagine what an insane reality tv show the French aristocracy would have made in those days! The brutality of French court during King Louie IV, the sadness of the loves lost of his grandson, followed by the stallion he became and all those women! The fashions..Madame Pompadour’s hairstyles..young Madam du Barry and her..adventures?!? would have had many glued to the tv lol and the villain Robespierre, what a monster.. he would have us voting him off the show for ruining all the fun…and for the last season, enter Napoleon!
Could you do an episode on mistresses in general? in warious courts, how were they treated, did they get along with queens consorts etc
Can you imagine having to behave while your husband flaunts mistresses tell me their wasn’t a wig snatched at least once back then in Versailles 😅
Smile and put up with it honestly all they could do. But i do agree at least one wig went flying.
Ahahah funny for sure, most women are not into sharing its a man's thing so can you imagine all the shit 😂
Women in nobility always had their quiet share of extramarital escapades also, most times it was often overlooked as long as it wasn’t publically flaunted. This was of course, after the heir and spare had been produced.
If my 🦪 looked like the cave of wonders after birthing 10 of his kids, I'd be mad too. The only court I'd want to see his mistresses in is divorce court.
@@babyramses5066 hahahaha I legit spit my water you’re hilarious 😆
I love your knowledge of this subject . Louis 15 also loved her derriere and had her painted for his eyes Only ,but now you can buy them on postcards in the streets of Paris 💗
18:47- Hey, so does anyone have an idea how the hell that big diamond necklace would be worn? Like is it supposed to be the ties, is there a clasp, cause those ties look decorative.
What a fascinating woman. Thank you for the video!
Love her narrating voice ❤
Love ittt, great work as always! ❤️
Her ending is so incredibly sad :(
I like all your videos, but this one was one of my favorites
Rose of Versailles ❤❤❤
This one was really good, thank you 🎉
Interesting to know the true story behind the movie, thanks! I’d only say the last phrase is rather inaccurate, it was not “her ambition” that cut her life short, it was the bloody and violent ahemmm I mean fraternal revolution!! 😅
This is the first time one of your videos made me cry, Lindsay. What a horrible end to her life. She didn't really do anything wrong her entire life. She did a lot with what she was given in life. The way she was treated growing up, so many people would have ended up differently. She should have lived her life out in her beautiful country home and died if old age. Poor woman.
Dealing with the aristocracy was always a precarious matter, no matter the social class. Nothing to romanticize or aspire too.
She should have remained in England
@@pisceanbeauty2503 but people like you have the right to romanticize lunatics, right? how hypocritical
Poor woman; forget about the slave ; we've taken 12 million , so it really doesn't matter...
Love the documentaries you do 😍❤ would it be possible to do one for the French revolutionary Theroigne de Mericourt?
Wow. She is if nothing else, a fascinating woman. What a tragic ending. Also I think that reaction to the guillotine is more relatable than most. You often hear of people that are unusually calm.
If I’m not mistaken, she didn’t ask the king to spend that much money on the necklace.
I get now why you mentioned she wasn’t even a political figure. Was she well-known in her time? Like even commoners knew about her?
The new movie is so good!
What’s the name ???
I knew it. It was never Marie's fault damn I feel bad for her because she had to pay the price of her husband's family
This was so good so good thank you so much so interesting, isn't she also the lady who they kind of got the archetype of the dumb blonde from? I don't remember but I thought that was someone with the last name of Dewberry as well
The French revolution and the bloodbath it became is just so sad to me. How people could think that killing people for small things was ok is just crazy. (Heck, most of the time they were actually innocent.) Don't get me wrong... the "people" were starving and were being taxed literally to death while the aristocracy overindulged and had so much excess and waste. They demanded more money and really didn't care about the "people" that funded their lifestyle. Justice and reform would have been to redistribute their wealth and step then if the luxury they lived in and made to live like they were. However the mobs twisted "justice" into something so perverse and despicable. It just goes to show you the power of the mob. No one person would believe these acts were just. But when they are together in a group that evilness grows and the gates of chaos are unleashed.
Totally agree with you 🦘
Golly, what a gruesome ending !😮
I was hoping you'd do a video on this movie!!! 🤩
Your videos are the best !!
Great video
So Louis and Marie Antoinette booted her from the palace but later reunited for eternity in a mausoleum after the guillotine.
This was an amazing story. Thank you....❤❤❤
Great video, thank you👍I only wish you would research the pronounciations of the names
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Respect to all royal family
Hi, a lovely and well-done video, as always 🥰. I need your help, the image of du Barry's château is baffling me. The château and surrounding sky and trees look like a photograph, however the plants and gate in the foreground look painted. I zoomed in to 600%, and I just can't tell. Will you please end my confusion and clarify that for me? If it's a painting, the photo-realism is insane, if it's a photograph, the foreground doesn't look at all like one. I really enjoy your videos, you always find such beautiful images (photos & paintings both 😁), and your writing and recitation are truly enjoyable. Thank you!
Lindsey should do videos on the mistresses and children of Louis XV next, like the ones she did on Louis XIV
Great video!! Thankyou!!🤩
Amazing how the police back then without the tech we have today were able to track down her jewels in another country but today they can't find squat and if they do they have excuses not to give it back unless taken to court.
Absolutely excellent video.👍👍
"De grâce, monsieur le bourreau, encore un petit moment!".
You can't help but pity this poor soul.
Lindsay, can you make a video of Karin Månsdotter, daughter of a soldier/commonor who became Queen Consort of Sweden through her marriage to Eric XIV of Sweden?
Great show Lindsay!
Gambling debt seems to be a big factor in the changing life trajectories.
"Doph-EEN" is the feminine version. "Doph-AHN" is the male version. His son was Le Grand Dauphin, not Le Grand Dauphine.
An amazing and intriguing life!
Excelent video! ❤
22:33 wrong, it wasn't Louis that offered the necklace to his wife, it was the jewellers Boehmer and Bassenge that made the extravagant necklace that offered the necklace to Marie Antoinette.
I wonder what happened to her mother!
Yes. And her younger sibling Claude.
Good learning....Thank you.
She didn’t deserve that ugh
Thank you ❤❤❤
i feel like ambition implies purposely plotting. When hearing her story she seemed less ambitious and more able to make due with her skill and situation. Her particular beauty meet the standards of the time, and her understanding of how the society and men of the time opperated seemed her biggest asset. Is it ambitious or survival in the most opportune sitch? Given that there weren't a lot of choices for comfort, education, or ownership for women in the past.
Unlike Britain, in France, all the children of a count, for instance, inherited the title. At the time of the Revolution, there were hundreds of thousands of members of the nobility.
I've heared that if preaphs all the peopole sent to their death during the the terror, had bean as fearful of death as Jeanne, preaphs it wouldn't have lasted as long as it did.
Fabulous narrative. I mean, you can't make this stuff up. LOL. Merci, Lindsay. :)
It seems that you have some incorrect information regarding the de Mailly sisters. Louise Julie de Mailly-Nesle was never made a duchesse and did not ask for much from the king. Pauline’s part is correct . As for Diane, the image you used seems to be of her sister, Marie-Anne de Mailly-Nesle, who was the one who asked the king to make her a duchesse if he wished to have her in his bed. Marie-Anne was also the one who had her eldest sister, Louise Julie, forced to leave the court in 1742.
_Nicely narrated, and illustrated!_ --- I felt for Jeanne.
Gifted beauty, doomed by the same cruel-fate that ruthless took-down the French Monarchy.