this would solve so many issues in society. people will be more health conscious. less back pain. less sickness overall. Commercial gyms would be more accustomed to weightlifting and strength training.
Honestly I don't get why basic strength training isn't curricular for high school pe. They let us do other dangerous activities and play arguably equally dangerous sports, so I don't see why they wouldn't teach kids something so beneficial.
@Fred Tedason Ok, first of all there is no need for you to be rude. Second: Most schools are PUBLIC schools. they DO NOT need to make a profit, the only schools that need to make a profit are private schools, and a HUGE portion of their equipment comes in the form of grants. You can't tell me that a full sized soccer goal or football uprights are cheaper than weight gear. Third: Almost every high school has a football team. If they do, they DEFINITELY have a weight room or weight equipment. Fourth: Teamwork and communication can be taught just as easily with team workouts as it can by having kids throw balls at each other.
Appreciate this, these vids are a valuable supplement to the book for us noobs who can't afford a coach. Rip's writing is pretty technical for me, seeing him demo is one 'ah-ha' after another.
When you bend forwards at the hip, the bar drops in height. When you move the hips back, the bar bounces back up. I think this momentum helps the press go up with more weight, in addition to the face out of the way of the bar path.
@31:44 Some people don't understand what's happening here. You notice, Rip actually gets closer to the athlete. "Stay with it Adam, it's there." What you didn't hear(but was said) is: "I'm here, you can do this, I believe in you." Mark is a coach in the ways you can't really teach people to be.
Superb training video. I wasn't aware of the mechanics of pressing like this, definitely gonna introduce this technique into my shoulder routine. Thanks a lot Rip
Thank you so much for calling this out. I love greyhounds!! I was about to navigate away after watching the initial instruction. Good thing I scrolled to the comments, for once.
syutenwolf: No, it does not. Actually you are maintaining neutral position of the spine by using your glutes to push forward. What you actually, is moving the stress to your abs and also to ligaments in the hip, such as the pubofemoral ligament, iliofemoral ligament and iliumbar ligament. If you were to take your car and rip out those ligaments out of your body, you could easily hang your nice 3 ton car in a hall, using these hip ligaments. They withstand extreme forces measuring several tons easily, which is why you can use them nicely to forward some pressure on. They are even stronger than that patella tendon, which can take around 15.000 Newton of force.
@@DanteLikesRock My job, basically, I train trainers in movement, physiology etc. Have been trainer for a long time, now teach trainers. I am not exactly sure anymore what i was on here about, since the original comment seems missing.
Lol I did my first day of NLP yesterday and hit myself in the chin pretty good with the empty bar. Nothing like biting your own lip to correct your form.
@@BlGGESTBROTHER Yep, pain is a great tutor. I am 9 months in now and can say if you do what they tell you, you will be a different person in a few months time. So stick with it and enjoy your training.
I've carried this over to the dumbbell heels together military press. Once you're working with 70 pounders and up it really makes you use the glutes, hips and thighs much harder to create a more stable base to press from. Thanks Rip👍
i've been struggling to figure out why my press sucks compared to my bench - i'm excited to implement this. also wondering about whether this violates exrx, but - whatever...
@Tommy Harris Yes he does. Watch in slow mo and you can see he keeps the bar path vertical and ends the movement with his shoulders shrugged and the bar directly in line with them. That's exactly the position he teaches. Not bad for a 50 something year old man who was admittedly out of practice.
is hip drive absolutely necessary for OHP when trying to avoid injury or building shoulder strength? or does it only help w/ lifting more weight? i want to know if staying stable and pressing could still be working out shoulders w/ out it being incorrect and potentially muscle damaging.
This should minimize moment arm, so it should be the healthiest way to do it. The only way you can damage the muscle doing this is by failing with bad form such as flaring your elbow to the side resulting in impingement, which is mostly a dumbbell relating problem anyways. Dumbbell overhead press is a bad idea, where most people hurt themselves. You lats traps most the shock of force in this exercise, and the human trap can take a literal ton of force before breaking; your spine will fail first; watch Olympic lifters for comparison.
What’s the purpose of pushing the hips forward before pressing ? Is it to create a little momentum ? Or is to to make pressing the bar up over head easier as your head is moved back a little bit? Or both ?
I'm not a big presser at all, but I've been doing this the whole time and never really thought about it. It guess it's just natural. I can't imagine trying to explain it to someone that doesn't get it. He's trying though.
I notice the hips go forward to press the bar up past the head. That all makes sense. Why don't you put the hips forward to lower the bar back down and maintain the vertical path?
Miguel Callejas Bench Press and Shoulder bench on the same day isn’t a good idea. Both movements are heavy compounds. Plus you’re using the similar muscles together and you need more spend enough energy on one compound movement at a time. Adding in another one and the second exercise suffers. Spread out the days for both.
Aahhmmm.. I wouldnt say doing 2 presses on 1 Day is a bad idea. Doing your competition press, and competition bench press isnt a really good idea. But doing your comp bench on the same Day as your supplementary press is No problem at All.
I think Mark missed that last question. Why can you not end the movement with the bowed hips and bounce strait into the next press? (Not bounce off the shoulders, bounce off the hips.) I assumed that the hips would need to bow to lower the weight just as they did to raise it to maintain the bar path, but it looks like there is very little movement on the lowering phase.
I guess it's because it doesn't produce as much strength. And creating a stretch reflex at the hips in this case would require a lot of coordination and effort. But the goal is to lift the load overhead from the starting position. Otherwise the press would start by unracking the bar with straight arms overhead, lowering the weight and bouncing off the hips. You are describing the Press 1.5, which was the previous version, but I guess theh changed it for practical reasons. Standing with a heavy load overhead and trying to get a big breath to start your next rep doesn't sound too good
Anyone know of the press record for men over 60 years? and/ or the record for lighter weight men ( 170 lbs) ? can't seem to find any info anywhere for recent numbers
I have followed the starting strength routine for a while now, after checking the elite standards lifts on EXRX this technique looks like it would void the lift as a strict press as the torso lays back and the shoulders fall behind the hips briefly. Any thoughts?
So the big fella' that missed his set of 5, let's say it was his 3rd set. He could go for it again with rest; he makes it, no problem, we add a wee bit next workout. But if he doesn't make it, 'cause he's just too tired from everything else he has done. Does he go for it again next workout and doesn't add any more until he does complete the 3*5?
Dear Rip, thanks for the tutorial. I have a few questions, still. Should I keep the weight as low as the "hip swing" is still dynamic ? Or it is OK to go higher with the weight and have the bounce slower ? Where is the power for the lift generated primarily ? The hips or the triceps ? Thank you.
My rack is located in a place where the ceiling is not high enough to do this. I have a place I could do this but it's not a good place for my rack. Could I just clean the bar once, then do this?
Rip gets under the bar to demo his own technique and proceeds to do a push press, bending at the knees. After all that talking. I haven't laughed this hard in ages. Thank you, Internet. lmao!!!!
He's 65 with injuries from a /bike accident, he can't have perfect form but yeah he probably should have had Bre or some other certified trainer along side him if available
At first it seemed like the hip thrust was the same as using momentum to move the weight but seeing Mark do it you can tell that's not what's happening. The bar itself is not moving at first so he's not using the momentum of the barbell but body-momentum coming out of the bow. Still though, isn't using body momentum to aid the lift bad?
Should you be able to press the same weight you power-clean using this method, or does it need to be a separate exercise? I start my workout with power-cleans every day, a heavy day where I just power-clean and a light day where I combine push presses at about 90%. I am almost afraid to use this method and can't imagine what the relative strength should be. Say I can power-clean 200lb, what is a reasonable target weight with this style of pressing?
I'm no expert, but you should probably be able to clean substantially more than you can OHP - exactly how much more is hard to say, but if you can clean 200lbs, I'd imagine a fair OHP goal might be in the ~135-145 range. Now with a push press or jerk style, you could probably put nearly the same amount overhead, especially if you're adept at the clean, which is a very technical movement.
@@ZishPOE Indeed. In general rule, you will (squat) clean more than you can power clean. And you will power clean more than you can strict press. For the push press, i do not really know. There is no plausible ratio with the 3 other parameters.
You should never use a thumbless grip. The grip described in Starting Strength is what you should use, its a thumbs-around grip and it eliminates the moment arm on the wrist so you don't need a thumbless grip.
For a novice I would never recommend a thumbless grip. But yes, you're right, plenty of great lifters like thumbless. I just think thumbs around with the bar resting on the heel of the hand is the optimal grip.
The idea of the thumbless grip is to optimize the position of the bar over the carpals and the head of the radius, to take the wrist "out" of the kinetic chain and maximize mechanical efficiency. As clearly demonstrated in the video, this can be done without the needless risk inherent in a thumbless grip.
Rip, is there such a thing as "arms hyperextension" in this movement? I wonder if the exaggerated hyperextension aspect of what they are doing there is harmful for the joint and a less degree of forceful lockout is required? i am not sure just asking.
@@bigdaddytrips6197 leaning back by hyperextending your lower back isnt very good. But keeping your lower back in extension, and pushing the hips forward, is No problem at All.
Usually people do 5 reps because they are using enough weight that they cant do more without rest. 12 isnt bad for you but remember the closer you are to your max on this the better. Basically if youe wanting to do 12 up the weight.
A vertical bar path is desirable (and also safely attainable) also in the bench press because of mechanical advantage. You are able to transfer power more effectively with a vertical bar path. However, without knowing how to setup for the bench press, a vertical bar path greatly increases shoulder injury risk. An unracked bar, in the top position of the bench press, is in balance over the shoulder joint. Lowering and pressing the bar vertically above the shoulder joint causes shoulder impingement. That can be negated by tucking one's arms closer towards the body for the duration of the movement. This tucking of the arms creates a non-vertical bar path, i.e. the bar now touches lower on the chest than where it stands in the top position. This non-vertical bar path can also be (almost) negated by lifting the chest and rotating the shoulders back and under. This reduces the distance between top and bottom positions of the bar without having to move the arms from the safe, tucked positions.
Failing in the middle of a hip drive press is IMO dangerous, you risk falling back (or injuring the lumbar) by not having enough remaining strength to recover position. I do a shorter range hip drive OHP instead.
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Having Rip tell me "Just exactly like that" is one of my life goals
i wish mark rippetoe was my PE teacher and all we did was do starting strength for the whole year :(
this would solve so many issues in society. people will be more health conscious. less back pain. less sickness overall. Commercial gyms would be more accustomed to weightlifting and strength training.
Honestly I don't get why basic strength training isn't curricular for high school pe. They let us do other dangerous activities and play arguably equally dangerous sports, so I don't see why they wouldn't teach kids something so beneficial.
@@squatcurldeadlift7346 In my day, we had no access to any equipment. Maybe that's changed, but I doubt it.
@Fred Tedason Ok, first of all there is no need for you to be rude. Second: Most schools are PUBLIC schools. they DO NOT need to make a profit, the only schools that need to make a profit are private schools, and a HUGE portion of their equipment comes in the form of grants. You can't tell me that a full sized soccer goal or football uprights are cheaper than weight gear. Third: Almost every high school has a football team. If they do, they DEFINITELY have a weight room or weight equipment. Fourth: Teamwork and communication can be taught just as easily with team workouts as it can by having kids throw balls at each other.
The public school system works flawlessly, if you consider that they are designed to produce soft, weak, docile consumer/workers.
"CATCH THAT REBOUND AND PRESS IT...THATS THE MOVEMENT!"...SIMPLE ARIPPEMATIC.
Appreciate this, these vids are a valuable supplement to the book for us noobs who can't afford a coach. Rip's writing is pretty technical for me, seeing him demo is one 'ah-ha' after another.
Best complete instructional series yet.
Rippetoe is THE MAN
He looks like he has bad coffee breath. lol
When you bend forwards at the hip, the bar drops in height.
When you move the hips back, the bar bounces back up.
I think this momentum helps the press go up with more weight, in addition to the face out of the way of the bar path.
Parental Guardian why do you feel the need to be a jerkoff? He’s just commenting.
Parental Guardian
Why do you feel the need to not shut the fuck up?
"there ya go, thats a good set"
man i bet that felt great to hear coming from Rip LOL
Really useful stuff, this allowed me to get past my plateau and actually progress in a regular linear way again
Not if you keep your spine in a neutral position. Make sure the leaning back is from hinging at the hips, and *not* from hyperextending your spine.
@31:44 Some people don't understand what's happening here. You notice, Rip actually gets closer to the athlete. "Stay with it Adam, it's there." What you didn't hear(but was said) is: "I'm here, you can do this, I believe in you."
Mark is a coach in the ways you can't really teach people to be.
That's nice.
How do you know that he said that?
Then he leans in even closer. You can feel Mark Rippetoe's warm, sultry breath on your neck as you hear him whisper "welcome to cash cab"
I didn't hear him say that
Incorporating this hip lever into my press gave me an instant boost to my working weight. Excellent instructional.
Been using this kind of press with 5/3/1. Working really well.
Been progressing to not getting 70 over my head to 75 for doubles in 3 months.
Kilos right?
Superb training video. I wasn't aware of the mechanics of pressing like this, definitely gonna introduce this technique into my shoulder routine. Thanks a lot Rip
16:45 greyhound casually walking among lifters, lol.
Thank you so much for calling this out. I love greyhounds!! I was about to navigate away after watching the initial instruction. Good thing I scrolled to the comments, for once.
Amazing coaching...Rip is so brilliant!
syutenwolf: No, it does not. Actually you are maintaining neutral position of the spine by using your glutes to push forward. What you actually, is moving the stress to your abs and also to ligaments in the hip, such as the pubofemoral ligament, iliofemoral ligament and iliumbar ligament. If you were to take your car and rip out those ligaments out of your body, you could easily hang your nice 3 ton car in a hall, using these hip ligaments. They withstand extreme forces measuring several tons easily, which is why you can use them nicely to forward some pressure on. They are even stronger than that patella tendon, which can take around 15.000 Newton of force.
Colonia Strength & Conditioning the fuck are you talking about? Stfu
Damn how do you know all that?
@@DanteLikesRock My job, basically, I train trainers in movement, physiology etc. Have been trainer for a long time, now teach trainers. I am not exactly sure anymore what i was on here about, since the original comment seems missing.
So you are squeezing the glutes to do the forward hip motion?
Well I was practicing this today and aimed a bit too well at my nose & it was quite painful. More practice required.
Lol I did my first day of NLP yesterday and hit myself in the chin pretty good with the empty bar. Nothing like biting your own lip to correct your form.
@@BlGGESTBROTHER Yep, pain is a great tutor. I am 9 months in now and can say if you do what they tell you, you will be a different person in a few months time. So stick with it and enjoy your training.
@@Broonzied Awesome man, good to hear you're sticking with it!
I've carried this over to the dumbbell heels together military press. Once you're working with 70 pounders and up it really makes you use the glutes, hips and thighs much harder to create a more stable base to press from. Thanks Rip👍
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the Ron Swanson character was based off, in part, by Mark Rippetoe
i've been struggling to figure out why my press sucks compared to my bench - i'm excited to implement this. also wondering about whether this violates exrx, but - whatever...
15:24 Rip shows good ol magic by himself.
@Tommy Harris Yes he does. Watch in slow mo and you can see he keeps the bar path vertical and ends the movement with his shoulders shrugged and the bar directly in line with them. That's exactly the position he teaches. Not bad for a 50 something year old man who was admittedly out of practice.
18:50 great elbow locking and shrug at the top of the movement.
is hip drive absolutely necessary for OHP when trying to avoid injury or building shoulder strength? or does it only help w/ lifting more weight? i want to know if staying stable and pressing could still be working out shoulders w/ out it being incorrect and potentially muscle damaging.
This should minimize moment arm, so it should be the healthiest way to do it. The only way you can damage the muscle doing this is by failing with bad form such as flaring your elbow to the side resulting in impingement, which is mostly a dumbbell relating problem anyways. Dumbbell overhead press is a bad idea, where most people hurt themselves. You lats traps most the shock of force in this exercise, and the human trap can take a literal ton of force before breaking; your spine will fail first; watch Olympic lifters for comparison.
ive been working really hard on this, trying to up the weight.
In heaven mark rippetoe and jeff caveliere are your personal trainers
And in Hell it's Coach Blaha
Fake weights Jeff alongside Rip?
How do you mention Jeff in the same sentence as Mark wtf xD
perfect. thank you, Rip.
Great information. Thanks
Imagine watching a 30 minute video about lifting a bar over your head.
Imagine spending your whole life lifting a bar over your head in the wrong way.
I noticed as the weight got heavier, the guys didn't push their hips forward as much!
Yeah its easy with the bar .first time i tryed it woth weight i strained my lower back. I stopped leaning way back like the people in video.
The amount of time Mark had to critique shows how complex this movement may be.
What’s the purpose of pushing the hips forward before pressing ? Is it to create a little momentum ? Or is to to make pressing the bar up over head easier as your head is moved back a little bit? Or both ?
15:43....His knees are bending
The RIP PRESS!!!
Wow Rip shredded those presses!
I'm not a big presser at all, but I've been doing this the whole time and never really thought about it. It guess it's just natural. I can't imagine trying to explain it to someone that doesn't get it. He's trying though.
Contrary a post in my name before, I haven't done any of the below, and therefore will not require your thoughts. many thanks.
I notice the hips go forward to press the bar up past the head. That all makes sense. Why don't you put the hips forward to lower the bar back down and maintain the vertical path?
Damn, Tom is a tall guy. That bar in the rack looks really high
My pr went from 90 kg to 100kg by just using this stuff wtf
14:12 ...just exactly like that x2 gotta love rip
It seems to me that this motion just turns the exercise into a hybrid of OHP and incline press until you hit lockout, hence the ability to lift more.
The shrug feels good all by itself
Great video. I do shoulder press on same day as chest. What do you recommend doing first, shoulder press, or bench?
Miguel Callejas Bench Press and Shoulder bench on the same day isn’t a good idea. Both movements are heavy compounds. Plus you’re using the similar muscles together and you need more spend enough energy on one compound movement at a time. Adding in another one and the second exercise suffers. Spread out the days for both.
Jesse Bradford , thank you.
Aahhmmm.. I wouldnt say doing 2 presses on 1 Day is a bad idea.
Doing your competition press, and competition bench press isnt a really good idea. But doing your comp bench on the same Day as your supplementary press is No problem at All.
"on the Dee Vee Dee"
I think Mark missed that last question. Why can you not end the movement with the bowed hips and bounce strait into the next press? (Not bounce off the shoulders, bounce off the hips.) I assumed that the hips would need to bow to lower the weight just as they did to raise it to maintain the bar path, but it looks like there is very little movement on the lowering phase.
I guess it's because it doesn't produce as much strength. And creating a stretch reflex at the hips in this case would require a lot of coordination and effort. But the goal is to lift the load overhead from the starting position. Otherwise the press would start by unracking the bar with straight arms overhead, lowering the weight and bouncing off the hips.
You are describing the Press 1.5, which was the previous version, but I guess theh changed it for practical reasons. Standing with a heavy load overhead and trying to get a big breath to start your next rep doesn't sound too good
Anyone know of the press record for men over 60 years? and/ or the record for lighter weight men ( 170 lbs) ? can't seem to find any info anywhere for recent numbers
Whats up with the greyhound? Am I the only one who saw it?
Yeah, you're the only one.
I have followed the starting strength routine for a while now, after checking the elite standards lifts on EXRX this technique looks like it would void the lift as a strict press as the torso lays back and the shoulders fall behind the hips briefly. Any thoughts?
I wonder if this tweak will finally allow me to overhead press without getting that pins and needles feeling in my neck... I'll have to see.
Did it help?
Mark "Slapping Your Back" Rippetoe
So the big fella' that missed his set of 5, let's say it was his 3rd set. He could go for it again with rest; he makes it, no problem, we add a wee bit next workout. But if he doesn't make it, 'cause he's just too tired from everything else he has done. Does he go for it again next workout and doesn't add any more until he does complete the 3*5?
Mick OHagan I would make him redo it next time, and if he fails for two or three workouts then reset that lift.
GongFuWarrior
can someone tag the lesson portion on breathing?
THERE YOU GOO, THERE YOU GOOOO
Dear Rip, thanks for the tutorial. I have a few questions, still. Should I keep the weight as low as the "hip swing" is still dynamic ? Or it is OK to go higher with the weight and have the bounce slower ? Where is the power for the lift generated primarily ? The hips or the triceps ? Thank you.
Thanks dad.... I mean Rip.
I wish..😭
Thanks Rip.
My rack is located in a place where the ceiling is not high enough to do this. I have a place I could do this but it's not a good place for my rack. Could I just clean the bar once, then do this?
It really is ALL in the hips.
goat Mr Rip
I have a problem with trying to get it down lol he doesnt show it in video and in the book
9:59
Such a difficult movement
Don't reallylike the dynamic version... where can I find the older version of the press as he taught it earlier?
My book has the new version.
I want a weightlifting grandma!
Lol 😂😅 🤣
Is this same hip movement applicable on the overhead dumbbell press as well?
why would it be? the hip movement is only there because the bar will hit ur face otherwise.
Rip's saying to lock the knees, but the trainee is bending at the knees rather than the hip... ?
The people with a softer knee seem to have a better time with this technique
I feel to much stress on my lower back when I do that, any tips?
Teodor Mrdenovic eat more chicken
Me to. First time i tryed it I strained my back. I dont lean that far back like the people in video .
It's because you need to push your hips forward, you don't bend the lumbar spine.
Bend at the hips, not by hyperextending your lower back
Squeeze your glutes.
Rip gets under the bar to demo his own technique and proceeds to do a push press, bending at the knees. After all that talking. I haven't laughed this hard in ages. Thank you, Internet. lmao!!!!
He's 65 with injuries from a /bike accident, he can't have perfect form
but yeah he probably should have had Bre or some other certified trainer along side him if available
Looks fine to me. I think the large pants are giving you the illusion of bent knees
would adding the hip movement before the press be harsh on the lower back at higher weights?
shoulder press done like that is the best way to hurt your rotator cuffs and your spine
Please tell use why, doctor
Do you squeeze your glutes when you shoot your hips foward?
Yes bro
More HS PE teachers need to start doing this type of training, not the namby pamby stuff kids wanna do today.
how to press more weight using proper momentum
Would a wider grip be what caused shoulder issues??
Yes
isn't he bending at his knees, not at the hips?
his hips look pretty locked, but his knees dont (stop at 8:52 for example)
doesn't it cause too much stress on the lower back? and less intensity on shoulders?
Is it wrong if u come down real slow and then up fast?
G.E.L LEX na man, thats the best of boyh worlds
At first it seemed like the hip thrust was the same as using momentum to move the weight but seeing Mark do it you can tell that's not what's happening. The bar itself is not moving at first so he's not using the momentum of the barbell but body-momentum coming out of the bow. Still though, isn't using body momentum to aid the lift bad?
Ezra Pound no momentum is acceptable and can be beneficial towards the end of the set.
Yeah, we are in it for the same goal and train the same, hard way. Come the fuck on. Get along.
Should you be able to press the same weight you power-clean using this method, or does it need to be a separate exercise?
I start my workout with power-cleans every day, a heavy day where I just power-clean and a light day where I combine push presses at about 90%. I am almost afraid to use this method and can't imagine what the relative strength should be.
Say I can power-clean 200lb, what is a reasonable target weight with this style of pressing?
I'm no expert, but you should probably be able to clean substantially more than you can OHP - exactly how much more is hard to say, but if you can clean 200lbs, I'd imagine a fair OHP goal might be in the ~135-145 range. Now with a push press or jerk style, you could probably put nearly the same amount overhead, especially if you're adept at the clean, which is a very technical movement.
@@ZishPOE Indeed. In general rule, you will (squat) clean more than you can power clean. And you will power clean more than you can strict press. For the push press, i do not really know. There is no plausible ratio with the 3 other parameters.
I'm a huge fan of Rip but I'm a little skeptical about this style of pressing
Does the grip make a difference? I have used a thumbless grip up to this point.
You should never use a thumbless grip. The grip described in Starting Strength is what you should use, its a thumbs-around grip and it eliminates the moment arm on the wrist so you don't need a thumbless grip.
+EADP1 Many respected lifters favour thumbless. eg Wendler. so you cant say never! Personal choice
For a novice I would never recommend a thumbless grip. But yes, you're right, plenty of great lifters like thumbless. I just think thumbs around with the bar resting on the heel of the hand is the optimal grip.
The idea of the thumbless grip is to optimize the position of the bar over the carpals and the head of the radius, to take the wrist "out" of the kinetic chain and maximize mechanical efficiency.
As clearly demonstrated in the video, this can be done without the needless risk inherent in a thumbless grip.
The lady in the yellow top and black shorts had her wrists bent too far.
Dan Lauffer weee ooooo weeeee ooooo 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 you better find her and tell her, ya jackass.
Rip, is there such a thing as "arms hyperextension" in this movement? I wonder if the exaggerated hyperextension aspect of what they are doing there is harmful for the joint and a less degree of forceful lockout is required? i am not sure just asking.
isnt that bouncing on hips gonna kill your spine? I dont get it here.
Yeah its dangerous. Thats why i dont lean back like they do.
@@bigdaddytrips6197 leaning back by hyperextending your lower back isnt very good. But keeping your lower back in extension, and pushing the hips forward, is No problem at All.
is it a bad thing do 12 reps instead of 5 when it comes to this sort of exercise?
Usually people do 5 reps because they are using enough weight that they cant do more without rest. 12 isnt bad for you but remember the closer you are to your max on this the better. Basically if youe wanting to do 12 up the weight.
5 reps is for strength. 12 reps would be for hypertrophy.
good luck progressing in the long-term in the 12 rep-range lol
aaaabbs
Close call at 31:50
let's not start the stronglifts vs starting strength argument plz
Isn't it better to use false or "suicide" grip? To put the wrists in a better position?
yes
+James +Nuck Figgers Alan Thrall suggesets suicide grip for OHP.
Alejandro Nava not anymore
Isn't this book for beginners?! No?
What is this kind of this exercise good for? back or hands and shoulders?
Yes. - ND
Traps shoulders ro cuffs triceps.. forgot the rest
also i dont have a rack, so ive gotta clean it. then press it.....( what a bear)
So have I haha
But you get to do a clean, at no extra charge!
But...get a rack.
A lot of the trainees look like their wrists are bent back quite a bit... looks painful.
Mark grabs more feels on the ladies... Nice technique.
Because they do a shittier job therefore need more correction
1:20 Except benchpress..or?
A vertical bar path is desirable (and also safely attainable) also in the bench press because of mechanical advantage. You are able to transfer power more effectively with a vertical bar path. However, without knowing how to setup for the bench press, a vertical bar path greatly increases shoulder injury risk.
An unracked bar, in the top position of the bench press, is in balance over the shoulder joint. Lowering and pressing the bar vertically above the shoulder joint causes shoulder impingement. That can be negated by tucking one's arms closer towards the body for the duration of the movement. This tucking of the arms creates a non-vertical bar path, i.e. the bar now touches lower on the chest than where it stands in the top position. This non-vertical bar path can also be (almost) negated by lifting the chest and rotating the shoulders back and under. This reduces the distance between top and bottom positions of the bar without having to move the arms from the safe, tucked positions.
@@Ergooo Thanks for explaination!
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The PRUAEAHS
Failing in the middle of a hip drive press is IMO dangerous, you risk falling back (or injuring the lumbar) by not having enough remaining strength to recover position. I do a shorter range hip drive OHP instead.
You don’t initiate the press mid hip drive. You press as soon as you’ve bounced.