Of note, for HM mules, prioritizing moves like Cut and Rock Smash is important because of their low base power. I find that Strength is a decent normal type move due to it's fairly decent base power. There's definitely better normal type moves out there, but it will do.
Ngl, Cut and Rock Smash would be really good on Pokémon with Technician as the ability. I'm using a Rock Smash Ambipom in my current SoulSilver run, I should know.
In the early game, rock smash can be a pretty decent move. In Gen 4, for example. Teach it to a geodude and Mars' infamous Purugly won't give you any trouble. Geodude resists Purugly's stab and can also tank pursuit with his high defense. Rock smash hits super effective and can lower the defense.
@@ironspider4263 People just dismiss it as worse Surf but it's actually pretty solid for when your water-type is a physical attacker, like Feraligatr or Floatzel, or the aforementioned Sharpedo.
I think Linoon deserves at least some credit for it’s pick-up ability. While not directly helping out with it’s role as an HM mule, the free items do make it a lot less annoying to have it in your party
@@mariojordan9543It feels like his system for choosing mons was based exclusively on which one learns the most HM moves and is available earlier, and not on actual practicality, because Linoone is actually the best land HM user in Hoenn everyone actually uses, and then they just get something like carvanha for the water HMs.
Timestamps for each game Red, Blue, and Yellow: 2:40 Gold, Silver, and Crystal: 5:38 Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald: 7:08 FireRed and LeafGreen: 9:17 Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum: 11:07 HeartGold and SoulSilver: 14:11 Black and White: 15:35 Black 2 and White 2: 17:33 X and Y: 18:09 OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire: 19:02
That's crazy gen 1 technically didn't have a pokemon that could learn multiple hm moves. Not that it mattered as I just spread the hms across the entire team. Easier that way and never needed a reason to switch. And when I figured out rock cave, didn't bother with flash again.
Someone somewhere in the internet: "The proper PC term is HM Beast of Burden, HM Mule is derogatory to the Mule because it assumes that is the only reason for a Mules existence and that they are of no other use."
In Gen three, Tentacool and Tropius together can learn every HM in the game. Tentacool gets cut, surf, dive and waterfall, and Tropius gets fly, flash, rock smash and strength. Both can be found early in the game, with Tentacool being found with an old rod and Tropius on route 119, well before the end of the game. I was slightly disappointed to see my favorite HM duo omitted from the list...
Same. I gave my Swampert Surf and Dive, but only until I got Waterfall. Then I caught a Lombre and un-learnt my starter Dive to make place for Ice Beam.
I feel like strength is underrated. I don't remember how long it has been a base 80 100 acc normal move but I have used it for a reliable strong move in multiple playthroughs.
Crypto 2 body slam, just as strong and can paralyze. Or slash which isn’t as strong but high crit ratio is nice. And return in later games which is base 102 power at max friendship which will most likely happen pretty quickly. But strength is still a decent normal type move with the convenience of being able to move rock or boulders with out a needed hm slave.
Me when I played earlier games: "I'll teach the hm to whoever because I was only gonna need two slots for its strongest stab moves anyway" Me in recent games: "If only I could teach my toxapex 5 moves"
Gen 1 (Blue, Red and Yellow)- Explanation: 2:40 Straight To The Point: Blue and Yellow: 4:10 (Sandshrew) Red: 4:28 (Krabby) Gen 2 (Gold, Silver and Crystal)- Explanation: 5:40 Straight To The Point: 6:18 (Early Game - Paras, Late Game - Psyduck) Gen 3 (Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald; Fire Red and Leaf Green) Ruby ,Sapphire, Emerald: Explanation: 7:11 Straight To The Point: Sapphire and Emerald: 7:27 (Lombre) Ruby: 8:45 (Early Game- Nuzleaf, Late Game- Psyduck, Hon'ble Mention-Linoone) Fire Red and Leaf Green: Explanation: 9:20 Straight To The Point: 10:09 (Nidoran, but for surf, evolve into Nidoking/queen or swap in for Lickatung or Krabby) Gen 4 (Diamond, Pearl and Platinum; HeartGold and SoulSilver) Platinum, Diamond, Pearl: Straight To The Point: 11:15 (Bibarel,1 pokemon with Surf,1 pokemon with defog) HeartGold, SoulSilver: Explanation: 14:14 Straight To The Point: 14:27 (Early Game: Paras, Late Game: Psyduck, Golduck) Gen 5 (Black and White; Black 2 and White 2;) Black And White: Explanation: 15:40 Straight To The Point: 16:10 (Early Game- Watchog; Cut, Strength and Surf: Cubchoo, Druddigon or Bouballant; Waterfall and Dive: Golduck (Strength and Flash too) ) Black 2 and White 2: Explanation: 17:32 Straight To The Point: 17:50 (Watchog and Golduck) Gen 6 (X and Y; Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby) X and Y: Explanation: 18:10 Straight To The Point: 18:26 (Bibarel) Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire: Explanation: 19:04 Straight To The Point: 19:14 (Omega Ruby: Nuzleaf, later swapped with Golduck, Alpha Sapphire: Lombre)
One of my favorite things about this channel is how beginner-friendly it is. I feel like Michael is very good at explaining things in a very simple way
Well, I would classify Waterfall to be also one of those "Strong moves" along with Strength, but yeah it makes a lot more sense to have more coverage than having two water type moves, but still you can teach these moves to a battling Pokemon
How many people teach their main team HMs evenly so you can just go anywhere without having to put a team member in the PC to play the game? That's what I do XD
Me too. Pokemon games aren't hard enough to require a full moveset. 3 good moves and an HM are fine. Also, surf, fly, and to a lesser extent strength are staple attacks.
I honestly would say your hm mule doesn't even need to learn strength it's a powerful normal move that I see myself mostly using on physical pokemon for normal coverage
@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy And Gen 5 and beyond, strength boulders stay down, meaning you could just have strength on a poké until you had moved the boulders, then replace it with the 20 BP stronger return. So yeah, Strength, Fly, Waterfall and Surf are probably the ones you don't really need a mule for. Even whirlpool is a water trapping move, might be useful. The egregious ones definitely are Cut, Rock Smash, the non-damaging ones (Flash and Defog) and Dive (Waterfall but no flinch and takes two turns).
Everyone wondering why Mike says mule. The Real Thing: Mikey: Says HM mule. Also Mikey: Zooms out of the video. Also Mikey: Can I say the s word now? RUclips pointing gun at his head: Don't you dare.
I mean the term slave does usually refer to people of color usually so it's not the best term to be using. I actually like the term HM Mule. I've never heard it before this video and I'm gonna use it more now. Mule at least emphasizes that it's carrying the burden as it's job and because it's a resilient Pokemon with high endurance. Not because it's been caught and forced to do what we tell it. I'm sure this might be a part of the reason why Gamefreak introduced Pokejobs.
Mikey: "It's a starter, you shouldn't use it as a hm mule!" Me: *Literally taught Fergailtor Surf, Waterfall, Cut and Whirpool while carrying me without a team* oh
In gen 3 i personally used Sableye as an hm MULE with Flash, Cut, Rocksmash and Dig (which has an out-of-battle use too) because by being a ghost type, it has a small chance when switching it just to tank a move (to heal one strong pokemon) to resist it, if it is normal or fight type. PLUS, it is found very early on in the cave before the 2nd gym, and it can be found at Sky Pillar at a relatively high level... :))
@Skeeter Mania It's a word that YT's algorithm detects and blacklists, if you use it you're more at risk to get demonetized. Welcome to 2020, it's stupid.
@@ReventonSpeed yep,most of my favorite videos been banned unless i use my secondary google account to watch and both of my google account that i chose is year 2004 which is stupid
I always teach Surf, Fly and Strength to my main team cause they are good moves. Waterfall is also better than Surf in some cases like with Swampert cause its a physical attacker. The only HM that i deem useless is Flash cause its literally just a permanent Sand Attack. As for Cut, it should be base 60 power at least.
Cut is useful for games without Return or Secret Power on Pokemon that can't learn Strength. In Gen 1 I always taught Beedrill Cut because in general I like all my Pokemon to have at least 1 general purpose offense Normal move. As for Flash I actually have used it in playthroughs against strong opponents to weaken them to avoid getting destroyed.
@@morrigankasa570 Cut would be fine if it wasn't normal type move. Grass or heck even poison or whatever. Almost every pokemon that can learn cut can just also learn body slam or return.
@@ruukinen Slash isn't as accurate as Cut and many Grass types in games without Return or Secret Power that can learn Cut that's pretty much the only damaging Normal move.
I typically don't hold back for my hm slave with Strenght considering its a 80 power 100% accuracy, its decent enough to be used as a move in a playtrough
Mew would actually be amazing as an HM mule if you didn't have to go to the move deleter to remove them. Just teach Mew whichever move you're about to use in the last slot, leaving 3 slots for battle moves, and you can even teach Mew Roost or some other TM to replace the HM.
Bibarel, you are so much more than that! You have Moody! After a few boosts, you can take down any Pokémon! If people just see you as a worthless pack mule, then they're wrong with a capital W.
Lighten up, you are so unique! You are one of the few pokemon who gets the ability moody. And you have a veeery rare ability in simple! Better yet you are the only simple pokemon to have 2 priority moves! One swords dance and sweep!
waterfall is good too but I will rather teach my starter surf(ig its not feraligetr) cuz i need to use it more frequently and also strength is non stab for attacking pokemons(normal types aint common attacker) u cant use it for coverage,and body slam/extreme speed simply outclasses it
In Gen 3 i always wanted to have "Mules" to cover every single HM even when those moves are nice, so tend to do this: Early: catch a Zigzagoon which can learn Cut, Surf and Rock Smash (I dont mind to wander around that tiny dark cave) (Also its ability Pickup is pretty nice for a Non-fighter Pokemon) After 5th badge: Go for a Tropius who can learn Cut, Fly, Strengh and Flash Late game: rather catch a Wailmer and evolve it or catch a Wailord on Route 140 which can learn Surf, Waterfall, Dive and Rock Smash, and substitute it for Zigzagoon
I'm upset you didn't pick Marill for gen 3. He appears on all 3 games and learns all water HMs, rock smash and strength. It can be obtained before the 3rd badge and if you ignored flash and cut, just like I did, you could finish the whole game with just a Marill and your main pokemon knowing fly and surf.
Me: Grabs Bibarel close for its safety, "Don't talk to me or my son ever again." Back in the day my Bibarel finished off Cynthia after hours of repeat tries.
@@Hmmm777 It wasn't, I used multiple pokemon for HMs, Diamond was my first game and, not knowing how stats worked and put Surf AND Waterfall on My Started Empoleon and didn't put them on Bibarel, it only ever had cut and I'd long since replaced it by the time I beat Cynthia.
Mikey: Bibarel is the best hm mule. Me when 7: Used bibarel as the head 'mon of the team and taught my accidentally shiny empoleon all the HMS. Me now when I realise the rarity of shinies: I F*CKED UP.
Bibarel: *cries* I am so worthless :( Me: Lighten up, you are so unique! You are one of the few pokemon who gets the ability moody. And you have a veeery rare ability in simple! Better yet you are the only simple pokemon to have 2 priority moves! One swords dance and sweep!
My HM Slave for Hoenn games has always been Linoone. They always go to the league with me anyway so may as well give them the moves I need for things. 😁 Rest of the HMs are covered by either Pelipper, or Clampearl depending on if I used Swellow instead of Pelipper to learn Fly.
Saving you time. Here's the cheat sheet: Gen I : Sandshrew (B/Y), Krabby (R) Gen I Remake: the nidos for early game, then same as above. Gen II: Paras (Early game), Psyduck (Mid/late) Gen II Remake: Psyduck. Gonna need 2nd for Cut. Gen III: Lombre (S/E), Nuzleaf, Psyduck (R) HM: Linoone ORAS: Crawdaunt (OR) . Lombre (AS) Gen IV: Bibarel. Gonna need 2nd HM Mule for Defog/Rock climb. Gen V: Watchog, Golduck. same for sequel. Gen VI: Bibarel
Even though Bibarel was my HM Mule he was also one of my main team battlers because of Bibarel's typing it can actually use the HMs in battle effectively! He achieved victories and pulled his weight against Roark, Fantina, Byron, Candice, Bertha, Flint and even Cynthia!
lmao I used nothing but normal types like bibarel against fantina but I rigged them with element type moves so she could barely land hits and I could attack at leisure. I honestly enjoy occasionally trolling the NPCs in battle XD
As a HM mule, in firered/leafgreen, I like Meowth, nature boosting speed, ability (Pickup for item) hm Cut, hm Flash, pay day (for cash), snore (lead sleeper).
Worse. The hm mule Pokémon. The name is a mixture of work and horse. (sadly I couldn’t find a way to put mule in the name plz tell better name). Good hp ok defence, sp.defence ,speed, sp.attack and attack. It would learn all hms minus flash (lino one cares), cut and whirlpool (who likes the linoon pun)
Anyone else actually use their HM mules in battle, though? My Linoone in Ruby, my Bibarel in Pearl, they might have been taking on a lot of the HMs, but they were pulling their weight in battle, too, getting leveled up along with the rest of their respective teams.
For me, in PKMN HGSS, I could use two Feraligatrs since they can learn every HM except fly (which isn’t required)… So they’d be HM buddies instead of HM Slaves/Mules🤗
Wait a second, how do you get 2 Feraligatrs? Unless ur big brain and breeding, Feraligatr is basically a legendary as initially you can only get one. Oops. Went on a bit of a rant :/
“Hm beast of burden” could just be called “Hm Bob”
Why isnt this comment popular
Yes
I thought of his right before i saw this commebt
I’m naming all of my HM users that now lol
Lol lol lol
Me: "They're being called 'mules' now?"
RUclips, putting a gun to Mikey's head: "Always have been."
Best meme ever
but evals is better but it's Coppa...
Mhm fax
HM Martyrs ftw
Hm slave
Of note, for HM mules, prioritizing moves like Cut and Rock Smash is important because of their low base power. I find that Strength is a decent normal type move due to it's fairly decent base power. There's definitely better normal type moves out there, but it will do.
Ngl, Cut and Rock Smash would be really good on Pokémon with Technician as the ability.
I'm using a Rock Smash Ambipom in my current SoulSilver run, I should know.
@@goldenhydreigon4727 so Rock smash goes to 60 base power and lowers defence on a pokemon with high attack... i like it dude :D
In Pokémon blaze black, Strength is a 85 base power Rock type move, making it so much more usable
In the early game, rock smash can be a pretty decent move. In Gen 4, for example. Teach it to a geodude and Mars' infamous Purugly won't give you any trouble. Geodude resists Purugly's stab and can also tank pursuit with his high defense. Rock smash hits super effective and can lower the defense.
Michael : HM Mule
Pokemon Veteran : MAKE THEM OUR SLAVE!!!
_It was not by my hand that I'm once again given flesh. I was called here by humans who wish to pay me tribute._
@@Mudkip971 ahh, a man of culture I see.
He says mule because he would get demonetized if he would say slave
@@O5IR15 ^_^
Nice profile picture
“Surf and Fly are the only two good moves”
Let’s go Sharpedo, toss that Waterfall, we aren’t wanted here
Austin Zean Waterfall is a really underrated hm
@@ironspider4263 People just dismiss it as worse Surf but it's actually pretty solid for when your water-type is a physical attacker, like Feraligatr or Floatzel, or the aforementioned Sharpedo.
Yeah, I used a main team sharpedo with a strong stab, psychical waterfall
@@quadrewplex6782 only in gens after 3 since the physical special split wasn't a thing until then
I’ve always liked Rock Smash tbh. It’s a good move to give a normal mon some fighting coverage.
I think Linoon deserves at least some credit for it’s pick-up ability. While not directly helping out with it’s role as an HM mule, the free items do make it a lot less annoying to have it in your party
Wait, if Linoone aint the best HM mule who was it?
Oh wait the video is a yesr old lol
@@mariojordan9543It feels like his system for choosing mons was based exclusively on which one learns the most HM moves and is available earlier, and not on actual practicality, because Linoone is actually the best land HM user in Hoenn everyone actually uses, and then they just get something like carvanha for the water HMs.
Late-game, Belly Drum+Strength Linoone is a helluva backup to have.
You mean a HM slav-
RUclips: *don't you dare*
Cough cough *thesaurus.com*
HM Slav... *Cheeki Breeki intensifies.*
Me: uh.. Do you mean sla-
RUclips: *SHUT THE F*CK UP*
Also RUclips: *gets drunk when new video is posted*
what is wrong with saying slave? or is it another word?
Mayron Sting people get offended....
HM mule, thats a really polite way for spelling "HM Slave"
He no demonetize want
BLM*
@@magus2508 lmao
RUclips doesn't like that word
Haha thats what i say
Timestamps for each game
Red, Blue, and Yellow: 2:40
Gold, Silver, and Crystal: 5:38
Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald: 7:08
FireRed and LeafGreen: 9:17
Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum: 11:07
HeartGold and SoulSilver: 14:11
Black and White: 15:35
Black 2 and White 2: 17:33
X and Y: 18:09
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire: 19:02
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Tysm! After I beat pokemon sapphire I'm gonna try black or white 2, and that was helpful.
THANK YOU
That's crazy gen 1 technically didn't have a pokemon that could learn multiple hm moves. Not that it mattered as I just spread the hms across the entire team. Easier that way and never needed a reason to switch. And when I figured out rock cave, didn't bother with flash again.
"Having a Dragonite as a HM Mule would just be a waste of a Dragonite." Unless you're Dragon Trainer Lance, and have like 3 Dragonites. Lol
Andrew Cha 3 ILLEGAL dagonites
i've had so many dragoniyes in my life I might as well be lance's daughter
dragon trainer lance never heard of him the only lance ive heard of is bird keeper lance
"Beast of Burden"
Okay, I'm now calling my HM Slaves "Bob" from now on.
Lol
Someone somewhere in the internet: "The proper PC term is HM Beast of Burden, HM Mule is derogatory to the Mule because it assumes that is the only reason for a Mules existence and that they are of no other use."
Spread this term out we will bow call them HM BOBs of I will
I had a bibarel in diamond and called it Bobarel
Wow dude
In Gen three, Tentacool and Tropius together can learn every HM in the game. Tentacool gets cut, surf, dive and waterfall, and Tropius gets fly, flash, rock smash and strength. Both can be found early in the game, with Tentacool being found with an old rod and Tropius on route 119, well before the end of the game. I was slightly disappointed to see my favorite HM duo omitted from the list...
@@jonathanforsum559 gen 3
Imagine using Tropius
What about Linoone.
@@fernandoholanda5890 What do you mean? It's on Route 119 in the GBA games and on route 119 and 120 in the remakes.
@@alastar_scenestar umm but ur original comment says route 19 not route 119
Mike: you probably shouldnt teach your starters hm's.
7 yr old me with a swampert that knows surf, waterfall, dive
Same
Same. I gave my Swampert Surf and Dive, but only until I got Waterfall. Then I caught a Lombre and un-learnt my starter Dive to make place for Ice Beam.
Me with the Pikachu in Yellow that knows Flash (but also Thundershock, Thunderbolt, and Thunder)
Swampert, surf waterfall , dive and rocksmash
Jacob Micah honestly water HMS are good moves
"Well, kids, what have we learned?"
"The Psyduck line is the biggest slave- er, ass- um, mule of them all."
"Very good!"
Would’ve liked it if HM mules were called “Beast of Burden” because then I would nickname them Bob.
I feel like strength is underrated. I don't remember how long it has been a base 80 100 acc normal move but I have used it for a reliable strong move in multiple playthroughs.
Extreme speed is just better
@@idkwhyihaveyt8686 what about before e speed
@Crypto 2
Exactly, since Extreme Speed is not learned by many Pokémon and is usually only learn late game.
@Cuhong Herico
Extreme Speed is rare and late game.
Crypto 2 body slam, just as strong and can paralyze. Or slash which isn’t as strong but high crit ratio is nice. And return in later games which is base 102 power at max friendship which will most likely happen pretty quickly. But strength is still a decent normal type move with the convenience of being able to move rock or boulders with out a needed hm slave.
Me when I played earlier games:
"I'll teach the hm to whoever because I was only gonna need two slots for its strongest stab moves anyway"
Me in recent games:
"If only I could teach my toxapex 5 moves"
Do an ash's snorlax
Dandruff02 Even better, he has 6 moves
yeah
toxapex moveset i need:
toxic
baneful bunker
toxic spikes
recover
scald
@@Musasensei1674 me too kid
@@Musasensei1674 Why do you need Toxic and Toxic Spikes on the same Pokemon
Pikachu and Eevee being able to learn all 5 without taking any move slots: I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you
Imagine playing Let's Go
*Made by FireRed and LeafGreen gang*
*P.S.: Red, Blue, Green, and Yellow are losers.*
Being able to have 6 ride Pokémon in gen 7 without having a team: Well I am four parallel universes ahead of YOU
@@goldenhydreigon4727 let’s go is good, so are FRLG, so are RBYG, they’re all basically the same game with minor differences, shut up
@@AlbertFingernoodle959 I second
@@AlbertFingernoodle959 (plus easy shiny hunting)
Ok but “HM Beast-of-Burden,” while more annoying to say, sounds _so_ much cooler than “HM Mule”
What about hm jacka*s
/h/
HM B.O.B.
Or HM man.
Hm sla**
"The HM slaves have armed themselves"
"I don't like that word"
"HM?"
"No, the... the S word"
"Sorry, the Pokemon with jobs have armed themselves"
Isnt that true
K
Ah yes a "thor ragnarok" reference. Well played
LOL! Thor : Raganrok reference, isn't in?
The S word... The aegislash?
Gen 1 (Blue, Red and Yellow)-
Explanation: 2:40
Straight To The Point:
Blue and Yellow: 4:10 (Sandshrew)
Red: 4:28 (Krabby)
Gen 2 (Gold, Silver and Crystal)-
Explanation:
5:40
Straight To The Point: 6:18 (Early Game - Paras, Late Game - Psyduck)
Gen 3 (Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald; Fire Red and Leaf Green)
Ruby ,Sapphire, Emerald:
Explanation:
7:11
Straight To The Point:
Sapphire and Emerald: 7:27 (Lombre)
Ruby: 8:45 (Early Game- Nuzleaf, Late Game- Psyduck, Hon'ble Mention-Linoone)
Fire Red and Leaf Green:
Explanation: 9:20
Straight To The Point: 10:09 (Nidoran, but for surf, evolve into Nidoking/queen or swap in for Lickatung or Krabby)
Gen 4 (Diamond, Pearl and Platinum; HeartGold and SoulSilver)
Platinum, Diamond, Pearl:
Straight To The Point: 11:15 (Bibarel,1 pokemon with Surf,1 pokemon with defog)
HeartGold, SoulSilver:
Explanation: 14:14
Straight To The Point: 14:27 (Early Game: Paras, Late Game: Psyduck, Golduck)
Gen 5 (Black and White; Black 2 and White 2;)
Black And White:
Explanation: 15:40
Straight To The Point: 16:10 (Early Game- Watchog; Cut, Strength and Surf: Cubchoo, Druddigon or Bouballant; Waterfall and Dive: Golduck (Strength and Flash too) )
Black 2 and White 2:
Explanation: 17:32
Straight To The Point: 17:50 (Watchog and Golduck)
Gen 6 (X and Y; Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby)
X and Y:
Explanation:
18:10
Straight To The Point: 18:26 (Bibarel)
Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire:
Explanation:
19:04
Straight To The Point: 19:14 (Omega Ruby: Nuzleaf, later swapped with Golduck, Alpha Sapphire: Lombre)
Im adding a comment for ya good effort
Thank you 😭
Now I can skip the video
I hate you
Strength is such a decently strong move that I usually don't mind having it around either, which means Cut is the only problem in most games.
Same
If return didn't exist... strength would be a nice move
I always used strength for my Snorlax.
Same as rock climb. With so many HM's and it being a decent move I see no problem having it on a main mon for coverage.
I remember giving Strength to some of the team members on my team, like my Venusaur in X, My Quagsire in Silver and my Stoutland in Black 2
Normal people: I use zigzagoon as my HM mule
Me: who made a suicune as my HM mule
oof
Bruhhhh XD
Who the hell says “who made a suicune as my HM mule”
I used Croconaw in GSC
No regrets
I made my water starter in x for the post game
*No regrets any more bc it’s a library card*
One of my favorite things about this channel is how beginner-friendly it is. I feel like Michael is very good at explaining things in a very simple way
Well, I would classify Waterfall to be also one of those "Strong moves" along with Strength, but yeah it makes a lot more sense to have more coverage than having two water type moves, but still you can teach these moves to a battling Pokemon
Stinking poliwrath on Hala’s elite four team in Moon spammed Waterfall and nearly cost me the match
For physical water types waterfall is definitely useful, but most water types are special so that probably why he didn’t mention it
@@Bear0601 Except it's a special move in gens 2 and 3.
Ok
Same, I used a sharpedo and crawdaunt and taught them surf because it is a strong stab physical move. I agree with then
I love how he says "To make the Snorlax move" instead of "to wake it up and let it attack and partly squish your team
"Gen 4 is the most obvious."
*Longest section of the video*
Why why why
B i d o o f
I mean it fits because Gen 4 is the slowest out all all the Gens.
How many people teach their main team HMs evenly so you can just go anywhere without having to put a team member in the PC to play the game? That's what I do XD
That’s what I do as well, I honestly never knew people specific Pokémon they taught the HMs to like an HM mule! The things you learn haha
I do that as well
I do too.
Me too. Pokemon games aren't hard enough to require a full moveset. 3 good moves and an HM are fine. Also, surf, fly, and to a lesser extent strength are staple attacks.
I had pokemon I planned to use until I didn't and taught them all the HMS they could learn
Bibarel: *Is the best HM slave on Gen 4.
Bibarel: I AM STILL GOD.
obviously...
Bidoof is God, not bibarel
Yep Bibarel is still a god to anyone XD
@@bigpigman4205 is correct bibarel is the mule and bidoof is the trainer
HM master*
I honestly would say your hm mule doesn't even need to learn strength it's a powerful normal move that I see myself mostly using on physical pokemon for normal coverage
Yeah I used it on my bibarel in bdsp and it was a good move
True, especially in Gen 4 and behind since Return isn't an infinitely usable TM, which otherwise would be better.
@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy And Gen 5 and beyond, strength boulders stay down, meaning you could just have strength on a poké until you had moved the boulders, then replace it with the 20 BP stronger return. So yeah, Strength, Fly, Waterfall and Surf are probably the ones you don't really need a mule for.
Even whirlpool is a water trapping move, might be useful.
The egregious ones definitely are Cut, Rock Smash, the non-damaging ones (Flash and Defog) and Dive (Waterfall but no flinch and takes two turns).
“Your not going to use your starter as a hm mule”
7 year old me: oh yes I will
Didn't we all do that I'm guilty for that
Still feel bad for my first ever blaziken 😂
Same 🤣🤣, my Empolion was full of HMs
Fools
You see all of my pokemon had full hm moves
I still feel sorry for my poor swampert
Mew and flash : *exists*
Mikey : *I am gonna act like I didn't see that*
Everyone wondering why Mike says mule. The Real Thing:
Mikey: Says HM mule.
Also Mikey: Zooms out of the video.
Also Mikey: Can I say the s word now?
RUclips pointing gun at his head: Don't you dare.
Just realized he called it HM Mule so he could stay monetized. What a world we live in.
I mean the term slave does usually refer to people of color usually so it's not the best term to be using. I actually like the term HM Mule. I've never heard it before this video and I'm gonna use it more now. Mule at least emphasizes that it's carrying the burden as it's job and because it's a resilient Pokemon with high endurance. Not because it's been caught and forced to do what we tell it.
I'm sure this might be a part of the reason why Gamefreak introduced Pokejobs.
Also cuz Slave isnt a word you should really use casually like you would with HM mule
Oh yea facts he did
Cuddly Savage Sure, but how often do you see or hear of slaves that are not people of color?
@@ashaire6807 All the time. You realize America isn't the whole world, right?
Mikey: "It's a starter, you shouldn't use it as a hm mule!"
Me: *Literally taught Fergailtor Surf, Waterfall, Cut and Whirpool while carrying me without a team* oh
You monster.
Did the same for my Samurott. Except, Whirlpool was Razor Shell.
Bro-
I did basically the same with my swampert
just a king dedede main I was a kid back then. That's why I struggled with the Pokemon League using only him (plus Lugia.)
In gen 3 i personally used Sableye as an hm MULE with Flash, Cut, Rocksmash and Dig (which has an out-of-battle use too) because by being a ghost type, it has a small chance when switching it just to tank a move (to heal one strong pokemon) to resist it, if it is normal or fight type. PLUS, it is found very early on in the cave before the 2nd gym, and it can be found at Sky Pillar at a relatively high level... :))
Normal people HM slave
Michael, an intellectual, HM Mule
I feel like this comment might be most liked so I’m replying
know what forget it
Edit: wait actually don’t
Mikey is the biggest brained big brain pokemon master
Maybe he's using mule instead of slave to avoid demonitization and the wrath of boomers, Karens and Susan Wojwicki. XD
Well now there is black lives matter
Considering the current state of the world, yeah a slave is a no no.
I see, not using “slave” in the title and first minute to not get demonetized?
Basically
XD
its not just demonitization, its also respect
@@hatsunemikufortnite respect for what? A pixilated not real pokemon?
@@nativepredator8803 i think he/she is talking about BLM
"Optional HMs"
Fly: *hides behind surf*
He’s back!! Hopefully you were able to sort things out on the break man, I missed your content :)
Mikey avoiding the phrase “HM Slave” so as to not be demonetized.
How does it violate the monetization policies?
@Skeeter Mania It's a word that YT's algorithm detects and blacklists, if you use it you're more at risk to get demonetized. Welcome to 2020, it's stupid.
@@ReventonSpeed wow really
@@ReventonSpeed yep,most of my favorite videos been banned unless i use my secondary google account to watch and both of my google account that i chose is year 2004 which is stupid
Thi-Antra Chirasarn
Unless maybe it’s a popular news channel
Like bbc news?
Idk
I always teach Surf, Fly and Strength to my main team cause they are good moves. Waterfall is also better than Surf in some cases like with Swampert cause its a physical attacker. The only HM that i deem useless is Flash cause its literally just a permanent Sand Attack. As for Cut, it should be base 60 power at least.
Cut is useful for games without Return or Secret Power on Pokemon that can't learn Strength.
In Gen 1 I always taught Beedrill Cut because in general I like all my Pokemon to have at least 1 general purpose offense Normal move. As for Flash I actually have used it in playthroughs against strong opponents to weaken them to avoid getting destroyed.
@@morrigankasa570 Cut would be fine if it wasn't normal type move. Grass or heck even poison or whatever. Almost every pokemon that can learn cut can just also learn body slam or return.
@@ruukinen but in generations that don't have either of those 2 options Cut as Normal is fine. A general purpose damaging Normal move is great.
@@morrigankasa570 It's not though since anyone who can learn cut also usually has better level up moves than cut. Slash for example.
@@ruukinen Slash isn't as accurate as Cut and many Grass types in games without Return or Secret Power that can learn Cut that's pretty much the only damaging Normal move.
Everyone always asks "Who's the HM Mule?"
Not "How's the HM Mule?"
Bidoof 'boutta get even more moody.
*This says a lot about society*
The HM mule is fucking dead because I needed to revive my Pokémon
@@calebgood4966 Bede oof
Cries in bidoof
Literally everyone else in the world: HM slave
Michael: HM mule
RUclips is a dark place
He's trying not to get demonitized I think
Fantastic Flygon yea, we all know its slave
Michael HM sla-
RUclips: Mule
@@hiraeth7877 Fair enough
Me with my team of only water types: *laughs in hm coverage*
lmao same I had ducklett learn fly so I wouldnt have to backtrack.
Cries in type disadvantages
What does that mean?
It means he's scared of grass types
No I'm not
Bulbasaur , nuzleaf
Stop it your scaring him!
"Best HM Mule in pokemon games"
Me, an intellectual: *Laughs in Horses and Donkeys*
DONKEEEEYYY
Me: *laughs in finding out what a mule is because of Minecraft*
donk E
😂😂😂
BURRO!
Michael: Paras for gen 2.
Everyone else: WALCC MASTER FURRET
Exactly! I clicked on this video expecting Furret but was disappointed it didn’t get a mention :/
Mikey: you’re not going to use feraligator as an HM mule, it’s a starter.
9 year old me playing my first Pokémon game: ooh my starter can earn cut!
Bibarel-He swim the water, he cut tree, but most importantly, he break the rock with his long beaver teeth.
no he do it with his metal claw
Richraichu you mean ROCK SMASH
I love how Michael just pops up lifting his head up to start his video’s and over that he sounds like like the son of a Pokémon coach.
And the dead, lifeless, uncertain "Gotta catch em aaaaaalll" after an awkward pause at the end of every video.
I wanna say no... but at the same time yes?
@@chaosstorm0967 Absolutely beautiful and iconic.
Content timestamps
2:40 Red blue & yellow
5:38 gold silver & crystal
7:08 ruby sapphire & emerald
9:17 Firered & leafgreen
11:07 DP & platinum
14:11 heartgold & soulsilver
15:35 BW
17:33 BW2
18:09 XY
19:02 omegaruby & alphasapphire
“We just call it hm mule because it’s easier to say than hm beast of burden”
Why not hm
Beast
Of
Burden
So hm bob
Trash Panda HM BOB HM BOB HM BOB HM BOB
@@Nahwhyisthis Blend them and get hmbob
Randomizer Man ok sooooooo HMBOBHMBOBHMBOB
Hitmonbob
Trash Panda hbobm
Bobm
Bobem
Mew:I am a legendary Poke-. Me: Come on you’ll be HM slave
Mew huh? Must be short for Mewle because that's what you are now
Travis Fitch Mewle=Mule
Please change that word to Mule
@@pierrederonet8478 whyyyyyy?
RUclips: YOU DARE DEFY ME MORTAL!?
In Gen 3 I always use Linoone until the water section because it has the added benefit of having Pickup to get you items
I typically don't hold back for my hm slave with Strenght considering its a 80 power 100% accuracy, its decent enough to be used as a move in a playtrough
I've literally never heard it called mule, but an HM Slave lmao
He's trying to be advertiser friendly?
Slave is a no no word, and he's barely getting any ads anyway
He just changed it do to recent events .
Same
well political overcorrectness sux
Imagine catching the most mythic pokemon just to name it HM Mew 😂
Mew would actually be amazing as an HM mule if you didn't have to go to the move deleter to remove them. Just teach Mew whichever move you're about to use in the last slot, leaving 3 slots for battle moves, and you can even teach Mew Roost or some other TM to replace the HM.
mewl
Mewle
HM Mewl
Of course i'm the best HM sla- i mean mule in Sinnoh and Kalos...
*...after all everyone used me just for that purpose :)...*
Poor Bibarel
Bidoff better
Bibarel, you are so much more than that! You have Moody! After a few boosts, you can take down any Pokémon! If people just see you as a worthless pack mule, then they're wrong with a capital W.
Lighten up, you are so unique! You are one of the few pokemon who gets the ability moody. And you have a veeery rare ability in simple! Better yet you are the only simple pokemon to have 2 priority moves! One swords dance and sweep!
I didnt so...yeeee
“Surf and fly are good attacking moves!”
**sad strength noises**
sad waterfall noises
I always teach my starter strength it’s a pretty good move for battle
Sad dive noises
waterfall is good too but I will rather teach my starter surf(ig its not feraligetr) cuz i need to use it more frequently
and also strength is non stab for attacking pokemons(normal types aint common attacker) u cant use it for coverage,and body slam/extreme speed simply outclasses it
@Richraichu sad bibaril noises
Gallade: I can learn the most moves, what about you.
Mew: hold my lemonade
Dragonite: Allow me to join Mew.
Empoleon: *[sobs in flightless bird]*
Gallade is my ace pokemon
@@RealPhoenixFlight me with my dragonite:- haha dual wingbeat go brr
Smeargle
Empoleon actually has pretty good Move and TM coverage
“You can’t really use Dragonite as an HM Slave”. I guess my Dragonite in Fire Red with Surf, Fly, Strength, and Waterfall doesn’t count then.
My FRLG hm slave is Poliwrath, but I mostly just use Surf and Fly which Suicune and Charizard cover
fire red doesn't have waterfall
Guess my W2 level 80 Dragonite with Fly, Surf, Waterfall, and Dive doesn't count either.
@@kutlachakela it has in the postgame
So you'd go that far just for an HM mule?
"Best HM Mule"
Zigzagoon and Bidoof: *why do we hear zigdoof music*
Haha
Lol
Zigzagoon deserves better!!
Mikey didn’t even make zigzagoon the hoenn mule😂
@@alexchan1948 thats disrespectful.
In Gen 3 i always wanted to have "Mules" to cover every single HM even when those moves are nice, so tend to do this:
Early: catch a Zigzagoon which can learn Cut, Surf and Rock Smash (I dont mind to wander around that tiny dark cave) (Also its ability Pickup is pretty nice for a Non-fighter Pokemon)
After 5th badge: Go for a Tropius who can learn Cut, Fly, Strengh and Flash
Late game: rather catch a Wailmer and evolve it or catch a Wailord on Route 140 which can learn Surf, Waterfall, Dive and Rock Smash, and substitute it for Zigzagoon
Exactly
Lombre :* The hm slave*
Bibarel : * The cooler hm slave*
Mew: Allow me to introduce my self
Golduck: Hello there
Bibarel: grows wings so they can fly up to number one
Me: Dive, dive into the mem-
Michael: Dive, dive into the be-
Also me: aahhh, it's been a long day...
Yes, dive into the memes.
Speaking of which, June’s ASPITPIAY episode still hasn’t happened...
I'm upset you didn't pick Marill for gen 3. He appears on all 3 games and learns all water HMs, rock smash and strength. It can be obtained before the 3rd badge and if you ignored flash and cut, just like I did, you could finish the whole game with just a Marill and your main pokemon knowing fly and surf.
Me: Grabs Bibarel close for its safety, "Don't talk to me or my son ever again." Back in the day my Bibarel finished off Cynthia after hours of repeat tries.
Nice
Imagine you used your Hm pokemon to beat Cynthia
@@Hmmm777 It wasn't, I used multiple pokemon for HMs, Diamond was my first game and, not knowing how stats worked and put Surf AND Waterfall on My Started Empoleon and didn't put them on Bibarel, it only ever had cut and I'd long since replaced it by the time I beat Cynthia.
Teacher : Class this is why we say-
Class: We know Arceus is weaker than bidoof
Bibarel is awesome
Guess who's back, back again, Mickey's back, tell a friend.
I hate to be that guy, but it’s “Mikey”.
@@JB-qn8sj Amen
Yes!
@@ShinyCramorant agreed
@@PikaSwamps bruh
Mew: can learn all 4 HMs you need in gen 1.
It's a mythical
Mikey avoiding the phrase “HM Slave”
michael calling it "hm mule" because he doesn't wanna get his video demonetized for saying hm "slave"
Yep.
Seth Colby has the biggest brain-
Well I guess that makes sense now.
@@ShinyMew76 dude this is a Pokémon video at least save it for a political video
PC culture at its finest
Lotad and Bidoof are very cute.
With all the memes, i think
people have forgotten that
a lot actually find those little ones
actually really cute.
Does anyone else think it’s weird that Lickitung and Miltank can’t learn flash or is that just me...
Imagine how many kids read that and the joke went over their heads XD
what about machamp?
@@casparbergliez1489 it just happened to me
Well Lombre, a Grass-type, can't learn Cut...
Ahmet M. Cerrah Shoot missed opportunity lmao
I recommend ambipom with technician for cut. Stab plus the ability makes it an incredibly strong move on a fast physical attacker.
Mikey: Bibarel is the best hm mule.
Me when 7: Used bibarel as the head 'mon of the team and taught my accidentally shiny empoleon all the HMS.
Me now when I realise the rarity of shinies: I F*CKED UP.
Aren’t starters shiny locked?
@@davisvoelzke8011 not the starters in old gens. I think only gen 8 has shiny locked starters
🧢
I love your channel I’m so glad you’re posting again
Agreed.
Same
He was taking a break
I remember my first HM mule was Infernape lol.
I was so dumb.
To be fair, Strength and Rock Climb probably work well on Infernape
"Ah yes we need sixteen badges to get rock climb in gen four in Heart Gold and Soul Silver" lol XD 😂😂😂
Mikey: “the animal mule which I believe is a cross between a horse and a donkey”
Me: *played Minecraft for 70 hours straight* “hehe yes yes yes”
Shadenfroda those are rookie numbers, kiddo
Me who has played Minecraft for 6 years: Those are rookie numbers
Me: Good for you!
“Hm slave “
Me: No no no. *MULE*
Yes yes.
I still feel that Linoone is superior for the Hoenn games due to the pick up ability.
Linoone picking up endgame items like taking out a candy store lol
When MandJTV uploads again:
“ *The Return Of The King* “
Beat me to it
But I thought PrimetimePokemon was the king... HMMMMMMMM
Oh yeah
I thought of that as well now im sad i didnt comment first
I've never heard anyone call it an HM Mule.
Only intellectuals, like mikey, call them hm mules.
He's gotta stay advertiser friendly somehow!
Would you rather him say slave and get demonitized and people get butthurt over it?
Neither have I
@@jcb2009yt I don't really think he's an intellectual he suppoted Jubilee blindly when she said some really bad things
Micheal, can you react to “The best Pokemon game you never played” by Jaiden Animations?
Yes he needs to do that (her video was amazing)
Lol I JUST finished watching that video cause it was right above this in the watch later...
He probably already watched it, like the nuzzlocke one
Wanna Tube I know that he could have already watch it, but I just hope he hasn’t watch it yet
Yesss
Bibarel: *cries* I am so worthless :(
Me: Lighten up, you are so unique! You are one of the few pokemon who gets the ability moody. And you have a veeery rare ability in simple! Better yet you are the only simple pokemon to have 2 priority moves! One swords dance and sweep!
GIRIDHARAN P
And anyways,
*YOU ARE BASICALLY A RETIRED GOD!!*
I used a bibarel to sweep every game (if ur wondering how I used it in gens it didnt exist in I hacked it but I didnt power up bibarel with hacks)
This, this is beautiful.
anonymous gamer786 so you are telling me you “hacked” in a bibarel into gens prior to its release so you could beat the game with it, seems legit :)
My HM Slave for Hoenn games has always been Linoone. They always go to the league with me anyway so may as well give them the moves I need for things. 😁
Rest of the HMs are covered by either Pelipper, or Clampearl depending on if I used Swellow instead of Pelipper to learn Fly.
I have Galarian Linoone and Lombre in my team lmao.
Tropius is the best fly user for me, he learns sooo many other hm's too
+Linoone has pickup, so it's even more useful than an other HM slav- *mule*
I love the inflection this guy uses for his voiceovers. It reminds me of how RuPaul announces a challenge on Drag Race.
Obviously, it’s god bidoof. You’re the mule when you’re around him
I thought of the bidoof in mystery dungeon 😅
MemeAzim Likes MSM And Brawl Stars in normal circumstances yes , but bidoof is still better
BLIPBUG is great
Imagine how excited I was to see this in my notifications Welcome back Micheal!!!!!
yes
Saving you time. Here's the cheat sheet:
Gen I : Sandshrew (B/Y), Krabby (R)
Gen I Remake: the nidos for early game, then same as above.
Gen II: Paras (Early game), Psyduck (Mid/late)
Gen II Remake: Psyduck. Gonna need 2nd for Cut.
Gen III: Lombre (S/E), Nuzleaf, Psyduck (R) HM: Linoone
ORAS: Crawdaunt (OR) . Lombre (AS)
Gen IV: Bibarel. Gonna need 2nd HM Mule for Defog/Rock climb.
Gen V: Watchog, Golduck. same for sequel.
Gen VI: Bibarel
**Me when I turn on English subtitles**
“Guha readings for you fans Michael here”
pretty accurate, huh
Lol no it wasnt
@@aryana.1498 go on English auto translate subtitles lol
Lmao 😂😂😂
@@aryana.1498 that's because I was joking
“Greetings , Pokéfans ! Michael here "
I missed those words
Yes me to
it's been 2 weeks
@Eden Vickery you are absoluteley right
@@goldenghost2001 The why did you even open this vid lol
Even though Bibarel was my HM Mule he was also one of my main team battlers because of Bibarel's typing it can actually use the HMs in battle effectively! He achieved victories and pulled his weight against Roark, Fantina, Byron, Candice, Bertha, Flint and even Cynthia!
lmao I used nothing but normal types like bibarel against fantina but I rigged them with element type moves so she could barely land hits and I could attack at leisure. I honestly enjoy occasionally trolling the NPCs in battle XD
2:33 it gets funnier the longer you look😂
Was literally just thinking about what to watch and then I got notified of this
Same
Noice
As a HM mule, in firered/leafgreen, I like Meowth, nature boosting speed, ability (Pickup for item) hm Cut, hm Flash, pay day (for cash), snore (lead sleeper).
At this point, there needs to be a literal mule Pokémon that can learn a lot of these HM moves.
We haven’t had HM’s since ORAS.
Horsemon the donkey man
Worse. The hm mule Pokémon. The name is a mixture of work and horse. (sadly I couldn’t find a way to put mule in the name plz tell better name). Good hp ok defence, sp.defence ,speed, sp.attack and attack. It would learn all hms minus flash (lino one cares), cut and whirlpool (who likes the linoon pun)
Also you pronounce it war and then the end of horse
It is, in Pokemon Clover, there is a fake on specially used for Hm
Anyone else actually use their HM mules in battle, though? My Linoone in Ruby, my Bibarel in Pearl, they might have been taking on a lot of the HMs, but they were pulling their weight in battle, too, getting leveled up along with the rest of their respective teams.
Yes. Poliwrath in silver, knew the three waters and strength. Linoone in r/s. Furret in crystal.
Let’s go eevee: *we use eevee as our HM mule*
For me, in PKMN HGSS, I could use two Feraligatrs since they can learn every HM except fly (which isn’t required)…
So they’d be HM buddies instead of HM Slaves/Mules🤗
Wait a second, how do you get 2 Feraligatrs? Unless ur big brain and breeding, Feraligatr is basically a legendary as initially you can only get one.
Oops. Went on a bit of a rant :/
jcb2009 _YT
When you go to Goldenrod, you can catch a ditto and breed feraligatr, so it’s not too much of a hassle.
@@Matthew_Klepadlo Now I want a team of just Feraligatrs.
Mudkip
Totodile is indeed the best boi!