I was about comment this exact same thing, but then I realized my comment is not original in the slightest so I went to look for this comment which didn't took long at all.
I hate it when Nintendo have release an "event" to catch these legendaries and they don't like when fans hack the game I mean what does Nintendo expect they started this
The events make sense. But there's no use getting angry at hackers. It's gonna happen and there's no stopping it. To me, anything out of my control is not worth getting in a tizzy over
@@georgesikorski9891 It's unfair for the rest of people who didn't or oftenly Can't get the chance to get a legendary or mythical I mean come on people bought the game so let em get there way you know
@@DM-hq9gs The events are way more common than you're making them out to be. The only ones that have very few events are Mew and Arceus as far as I know. Even then, the only time it's unfair is when the events are too exclusive like the Azure Flute, but if you missed that, you could have gotten Arceus from the 20th Anniversary event like I did. It's not Nintendo's fault you couldn't bother to get the FREE code from any gamestop. Again though, if you want to hack one in, by all means do it. Nothing they can do about that. Also, let's not forget that you can complete the National Dex without the mythicals in all the games, and they aren't all the most competitively viable, so you're not missing out on anything
@@georgesikorski9891 these days it's more common now but I'm talking about the days of gamboys, gba & DS cause imagine buying the game but you can't mew or arceus cause of some dumb event Thats why these "event" things just annoys or angers a majority of fans
At higher levels this is true. A level 100 Caterpie would beat a level 30 Kangaskhan. It's just a quirk of the formula for calculating stats that a level 1 Pokemon is slightly stronger than it "should" be.
It also eliminates nuances like move pools and future potential. Hypothetically, a Metapod caught at LVL 100 would end up having a strength score of 20.5k, but the only move it would know is harden, whereas a Mewtwo caught at LVL 10 would have a strength score of only 6800, but would know at least confusion and often swift to deal direct damage. And, strictly speaking, a Magikarp caught at LVL 99 would be better than a Magikarp caught at LVL 100 outside of Legends Arceus, because the LVL 99 Magikarp can still evolve.
Considering you said "No Mystery Gift pokemon" at the start, I'd say neither Lugia nor Ho-Oh should count in Emerald because they are entirely dependent on that mystery gift.
@@georgesikorski9891 I meant in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum. Though, I did forget it was released in Heart Gold and Soul Silver, so good catch. Edit: I realize that the way I worded it makes it sound like Arceus never came out, but obviously that's not true seeing as Gen 5, 6, and 7 exist. As I said, I only meant for D/P/PL, but I did forget HG/SS was a thing when I wrote it.
yes since the main legendary (lugia in silver and ho oh in gold) is only catchable at level 40 i think and later on in the game youu can get a silver ot rainbow wing where you can catch a level 70 version of the opposite legendary (lugia in gold and ho oh in silver)
@@MrMagz924 It was doable in the original Gold and Silver as well (again, your version's at level 40 before the E4, the other one at level 70 sometime after) but basically yeah. Johto was kind to us.
My Level 100 Shiny Arceus with pokerus that literally hasn’t worn off since I got in like 2013 on my Pokémon Y (someone 100% hacked it into the game, got it from a wondertrade when I was trying to breed a shiny ralts to get that dope shiny mega gardevour)
@@sanspapyrus9564 How dare you disrespect Lord Helix! *Bow down to him* Bidoof, Wooper, and Magikarp are mere disciples of the God of Pokémon. He may forgive your insolence... but I won’t.
Can you make a top ten list with the most annoying Pokémon to battle with? Like maybe they miss a lot, only learn bad moves, have one extremely low stat (maybe it has decent stats but terrible defence), etc. I think it would be very interesting.
You should divide the BST by the level instead of multiplying it, so that it is the strongest in relation to when you obtain it. If you find a Pidgey on Route 1, it's more useful than if you get it in victory road.
That doesn’t make sense though? Because then a level 2 Pokémon is stronger than a level 50 Pokémon even if that level 50 Pokémon is strong when you can catch it and that level 2 isn’t
1: -Magikarp- -Caterpie- Zubat 2: -Sunkern- Shuckle 3: Zigzagoon 4: Bidoof 5: Sewaddle 6: Inkay 7: -Wimpod- Wishiwashi I have done this list by generation. Also if you disagree, then reply with your answer.
Ooh good idea! I assume it would obviously not count battle facility Pokémon. And I think the highest of them all would be Cynthia's level 88 Garchomp in BDSP, with a strength score of 52800. As for the weakest of them all it would probably be one of the early-route Trainers? EDIT: Wait, I might've found a higher one. In SwSh, Hop uses a level 70 Zacian and Zamazenta in some of his battles, which are in their Crowned Sword and Crowned Shield forms due to holding the proper items. Doing the calculations (720 BST*level 70), their strength score comes out to 50400... which still isn't higher than Cynthia's. She still remains supreme... for now at least. EDIT 2: And if you do count battle facility Pokémon, the result becomes... interesting to say the least. You see, all battle facilities except both Battle Factories have a level cap of 50. However, you can fight Trainers with level 100s in the Battle Factories (the ones in Emerald, Platinum, and HGSS). Of the Pokémon that are allowed in (and thus can be rental Pokémon and used by Trainers), Slaking's BST is the highest, at 670. Hence, if you fight a Trainer that ends up having a level 100 Slaking, it's strength score is 67000. That's even higher than the level 80 Arceus discussed in the video.
(Separate reply because my other one's getting crazy-long now) I think I found one that surpasses BDSP Cynthia, but it's a bit debatable. In USUM, Giovanni uses a level 70 Mega Mewtwo X (in US) or Y (in UM), both of which have BSTs of 780, giving them a strength score on 54600. I know Mikey said he doesn't count Mega Evos in this video, but Trainer ones are different, as they immediately Mega Evolve them before you attack it or it attacks. For instance, in this case, damage would never be calculated with regular Mewtwo's stats (and hence its base stats), but rather with Mega Mewtwo's. In any case, if Mega Evolution isn't counted, the highest strength score would still go to BDSP Cynthia's level 88 Garchomp.
Actually, the strongest Pokemon you can catch in R/B is a level 150 Snorlax you obtain through the Old Man glitch. Since it's Lv 150 x its base stat of 495, it comes out to a total of 74,250.
Updates: SwSh: Level 100 Regigigas in the Crown Tundra (67,000, also taking the title of the highest strength score) BDSP: Level 80 Arceus in the Hall of Origin (57,600; it IS legitimately obtainable this time, if you have save data from Legends Arceus that has obtained Arceus) PLA: Level 75 Arceus (54,000)
Arceus is actually technically obtainable - as well as all the other “mythical” pokemon because of “the void” glitch. Which isn’t a difficult glitch to pull off - just takes a lot of time.
Regarding Arceus: It is infact possible to catch a "legit" Arceus in Diamond and Pearl using the tweaking glitch, though its not possible in Platinum because of loads of invisible walls they added. That said, while it is definitely possible, you do need to use glitches to do it. That also being said, you can get Arceus using that glitch infinitely many times, and, due to the precise manner they were created, they can actually be transferred into the Pokemon Bank, since it doesnt know the difference between an Arceus caught the way originally intended and one caught using the tweaking glitch.
@@speedreader2660 Basically, you have to tweak your way into Pal Park. From there, you have to go a specific route up to the place where you normally catch Arceus. In Pal Park, you have a menu option that can be used to leave early. The game sets the flag giving you that option upon entering, however, it is never removed because the devs never expected you to leave the way you did. Once in the hall of origin, select that option in your menu, and arceus will appear. This works because the event that would trigger its appearance was, for whatever reason, copied over to the same slot that using that flag activates. Since, for all the game knows, you obtained a legitimate one, it will not be detected by any anti-cheat measures.
@@rainolive_ Basically, you have to tweak your way into Pal Park. From there, you have to go a specific route up to the place where you normally catch Arceus. In Pal Park, you have a menu option that can be used to leave early. The game sets the flag giving you that option upon entering, however, it is never removed because the devs never expected you to leave the way you did. Once in the hall of origin, select that option in your menu, and arceus will appear. This works because the event that would trigger its appearance was, for whatever reason, copied over to the same slot that using that flag activates. Since, for all the game knows, you obtained a legitimate one, it will not be detected by any anti-cheat measures.
This was a good video, but I think that the formula could have unveiled a much more interesting stat if done slightly differently. If the Pokémon’s BST was divided by the level, then it would show what the relative strength of a Pokemon is. It would pose some neat stats
I’m working on a similar video idea, though it’s much more involved. I’m making massive spreadsheets quantifying how well every fully-evolved Pokemon available naturally in a region matches up to every mandatory Trainer’s Pokémon in the game. It’s a ton of work, but I’m excited to share the results on my channel once it’s fully finished!
Well, you can encounter Arceus in gen 4 without receiving the event; however, it can only be done in diamond and pearl. Retire (a poketuber) discovered some glitches that can allow the player to encounter Arceus when entering the void. So technically Arceus would be the strongest in diamond and pearl
I like it when you come back post-edit with your own fact checks. I appreciate the work that went into doing that. Seen your videos before Subscribed for that reason.
I remember getting that Ho-Oh in Colosseum just to complete the National Dex in Diamond because without the Navel Rock event this was the only way to obtain it before HG/SS came out. Probably took me 60 - 80 hours, crazy times.
Would love to see a super comprehensive list of "Strongest pokémon in each game" but instead of just base stat total and level determining this you could - and bear with me - take into account all bugs, exploits, glitches, and themes of each region as well as the learnsets of each pokémon. This would be waaaaaaaay more in depth with exponentially more research involved, but also far more interesting I think
on the thumbnail, Michel "Oh mewtwo is the strongest of that game. oh rayquaza is the strongest of that game. hmm what's the next one? oh it's a magicarp?"
That means there are 2 in-game NPC's in the series that will trade a Steelix to you; the other is someone in Cylliage City (the place with the Rock gym) in Pokémon X and Y.
Isn’t mewtwo’s bst in gen 1 technically 744 since it’s sp attack and sp def are combined as one special stat, effectively meaning mewtwo’s special defense in gen 1 is actually 154 rather than 90. As for electrode’s bst, it remains the same since it’s current sp attack and sp defense stats are the same. So Mewtwo is still the strongest (52080).
Ar-key-us because In every Pokedex book a.k.a La holy texts which is canon it says word for word "pronunciation: Ar-key-us " soooooo conflicting evidence and I'm sure at least one of my books were made before and def after it says as read sooooo yeah I rest my case
Gamer_does_ Art no he's right you catch ho oh in gold first at 40 then post game lugia at 70 and in silver you catch lugia at 40 and ho oh at 70 post game
I think you forgot about the duplication glitch in red and blue, I once caught a level 100 snorlax while surfing on the east side shoreline on Cinnabar Island and I think I also caught a level 100 gyarados there once too on a different paly through of the game
While Ho-Oh and Lugia rely on the mystery gift item in Emerald, you still technically get them through normal means (battling and catching them). At some point at least the ticket was legitimately available at some point (now though, yes you would have to hack the game) whereas the Azure Flute never was available. Imo, Lugia and Ho-Oh count, but Acreus does NOT simply because of that.
As someone who played the 1st gen nonstop, enjoyed everything including the films and cartoons, gotta say im quite happy mew two is holding his own and being in the mix still :)
@@Amelia4111 it was just a small mistake, it’s not THAT big of a deal. I get that random things like that can be somewhat bothersome, but I don’t think it warrants that much of a reaction
Lugia/Ho-oh, and arceus should not count imo. Yes, you have to battle and catch them, but its impossible to even get the opportunity without the mystery gift item. Plus, arceus needs hacking/glitches to even have a chance, so it should automatically be disqualified. But that's just my way of seeing it.
@@howmanysubscanigetwithabso8259 look up RETIRE RUclips channel and It will show you the glitch called void glitch you have to do the slow bike tweak in jubilife city
@@ianuarius5798 "it will show you the glitch" that still means it should not count. Also, darkrai/Shaymin are either not counted on the video or are not the strongest.
From Pokemon Talk, you can see in 15:58 Squirtle and Bulbasaur behind Micheal standing on their Megas, along with Dragonite, Pikazilla, Alex (Charmander), Blaziken, Purified Lugia, Groudon, Hawlucha, Ivysaur and Wartortle. Oh, and a tiny piece of Dragonair is very slightly seen above Micheal's shoulder. Oh wait, in 16:38 you can see Flygon, Kyogre, Treecko, Alolan Mega Raichu, Genesect, 10% Zygarde Corgi, Mewtwo. Oh, and a tiny piece of Froakie above Micheal's other shoulder.
This “strength score” seems both gimmicky and not representative of the actual value of a pokemon in a battle. Multiplying by levels just skews your results towards pokemon you can receive at level 100, while you could just as well train a competitively better pokemon to that level and it would be stronger. Seems to me that you traded in one boring metric (base stat total) for a different boring metric, neither of which is reflective of the “best” pokemon in a game. This seems like an exercise in mucking around with numbers, which is fine and well and I found it somewhat interesting-but not as it was advertised, as discussing the “strongest” pokemon of each game. I would’ve preferred actual analysis of strategy, potentially including discussion of stuff like typing, movesets, stats, and what opponents you face in the game, but I guess that could just be me. And yes, it would be subjective based on what sorts of strategies you prefer, but what’s so bad about that? If you want to avoid always selecting the pokemon with the highest base stats, you can omit legendaries from the analysis. Again, would just like to say that this video was reasonably interesting-i watched all of it-i just dont think it’s a very accurate metric of “strongest pokemon”
@@JJ-gl9mn But you can't just "pick up" one of these lvl 100 trade pokemon, you have to spend hours training a very specific pokemon in exchange. All he did here was create a fluff formula that equates to "Pokemon at drastically higher levels are stronger than low level pokemon with high base stats"
Been going through some of your backlog, because it’s good background noise while I’m doing house work, and after listening to this I wondered who had the highest strength score in Sword and Shield since this video predates the games and it’s DLC and I found something interesting and I’m sorry if it’s already been pointed out. There is a special raid den in the Crown Tundra’s Giants Bed area that doesn’t appear to do anything at first glance however if you go to it with all 5 of the different Regis in your party then you get to participate in a braid battle against a level 100 Regigigas. Regigigas has a BST of 670 and therefor a strength score of 67,000. Not only do I believe that this is the strongest one in Sword and Shield but I believe, unless I’m just missing something big, that makes it the Pokémon with the highest Strength Score in the series and by quite a large amount. I got my info from Serebii so if I got something wrong I blame them.
Feel like it was a missed not opportunity not to include type effectiveness in this. Stats ÷ weaknesses × strengths × level acquired. (Skip division if 0) So a gen 1 MewTwo would be 680 ÷1 × 2 × 70 = 95,200 When accounting for it's bugged lack of weakness to ghost A regular Mewtwo meanwhile would be 680 ÷ 3 × 2 × 70 = 31,733.33 recurring Think this would allow you to touch upon battle in a fun way without having to dive into move pools
14:48 *Rusty has entered the chat* Perfect Bidoof has entered the chat* *Rusty has been forced to work at his parents deli for all time* *Perfect Bidoof, Cleffaye Valentine, and Good Rusty have left the chat
Ho ho and lugia I think should count in emerald because even though the item you need to get to them is an event or mystery item, technically both legendary Pokémon are in the game's code and you can legitimately acquire them with out just getting them via the internet . same with arceus in gen 4
Michael, in pokemon red and blue you can manipulate the cinnabar island glitch to capture level 128 pokemon from the last wild area that you encountered a pokemon. I had several hypnos that bodied Mewtwo.
To all of you commenting that Arceus should have been pronounced "Arkoos"...you da real ones ♥️
ARSEAOUS
y u no call arceus arkoos its triggering me and squirtle
ASSEEOUS
Arkayes
Arkoos
The rarest Pokemon is my dad. Been searching for him for 3 years across 3 different regions.
Dark Tyyp damn
My family left me. Because I’m adopted
@@definitelynotracist8611 Sorry For U
oh...
LOOOL
Michael: changes rules of list to make it more balanced.
Also Michael: abuses this rule by the first round using odd mechanics.
Right wtf lol
600th like lol
So true.
Not my favourite video of his...
Legit lmao, like wot was that logic
The fact that the Everstone matters in considering strongest Pokémon for Sinnoh is heartbreaking.
On the plus side, it gives THAT Haunter trade a use
Mindy *said with contempt*
You can get lvl 100 mew and gangar by doing some steps perfectly
Mandjtv: what is the strongest pokemon?
Me: ratata with focus sash and moveset with endeavor and quick attack
Two words “Ghost Type”
You forgot about any other pokemon with a priority move
@@danielkerzner8463 but they also need endeavor
@@mastahrage9931 well if I have a Lucario with extreme speed, it will for sure 2KO the Rattata
@Ahmad Adnan nah its Whitney's miltank.
I feel like you really missed an opportunity with “strength score” instead of “power level”
Arceus' power levels are over 9000!
I was about comment this exact same thing, but then I realized my comment is not original in the slightest so I went to look for this comment which didn't took long at all.
ITS OVER 900000000000000000 (crack)
This show is my life
@joe Schof its wrong its not arceus its arkoos
Yes, a missed opportunity for even 1 over 9000 joke
I hate it when Nintendo have release an "event" to catch these legendaries and they don't like when fans hack the game I mean what does Nintendo expect they started this
Exactly, legendary/mythical Pokémon that are only obtained through special timed events are practically impossible to own legitimately nowadays.
The events make sense. But there's no use getting angry at hackers. It's gonna happen and there's no stopping it. To me, anything out of my control is not worth getting in a tizzy over
@@georgesikorski9891
It's unfair for the rest of people who didn't or oftenly Can't get the chance to get a legendary or mythical
I mean come on people bought the game so let em get there way you know
@@DM-hq9gs The events are way more common than you're making them out to be. The only ones that have very few events are Mew and Arceus as far as I know. Even then, the only time it's unfair is when the events are too exclusive like the Azure Flute, but if you missed that, you could have gotten Arceus from the 20th Anniversary event like I did. It's not Nintendo's fault you couldn't bother to get the FREE code from any gamestop. Again though, if you want to hack one in, by all means do it. Nothing they can do about that.
Also, let's not forget that you can complete the National Dex without the mythicals in all the games, and they aren't all the most competitively viable, so you're not missing out on anything
@@georgesikorski9891 these days it's more common now but I'm talking about the days of gamboys, gba & DS cause imagine buying the game but you can't mew or arceus cause of some dumb event
Thats why these "event" things just annoys or angers a majority of fans
16:27 imagine if that level 100 gyarados was shiny
Name it Neo because it's the One.
Errrrmmm actually it was level 54.🤓
This method overestimates the level value. A caterpie at lvl 3 is "stronger" in this logic than a kangaskhan at lvl 1.
Well, as he mentioned in another video, Purugly is supposedly faster than Latios and Latias, sooo...
At higher levels this is true. A level 100 Caterpie would beat a level 30 Kangaskhan. It's just a quirk of the formula for calculating stats that a level 1 Pokemon is slightly stronger than it "should" be.
It also eliminates nuances like move pools and future potential. Hypothetically, a Metapod caught at LVL 100 would end up having a strength score of 20.5k, but the only move it would know is harden, whereas a Mewtwo caught at LVL 10 would have a strength score of only 6800, but would know at least confusion and often swift to deal direct damage. And, strictly speaking, a Magikarp caught at LVL 99 would be better than a Magikarp caught at LVL 100 outside of Legends Arceus, because the LVL 99 Magikarp can still evolve.
Considering you said "No Mystery Gift pokemon" at the start, I'd say neither Lugia nor Ho-Oh should count in Emerald because they are entirely dependent on that mystery gift.
same with arceus in gen 4 it needs a mystery gift that was only released in japan and therefore you cant legitimately get arceus
@@TogekissKate
Yes, except it wasn't released anywhere, at any time.
@@infernousgaming1393 The Azure Flute wasn't, but Arceus was distributed afterwards in HG/SS and later in X/Y/ORAS for the 20th Ann
@@georgesikorski9891
I meant in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum. Though, I did forget it was released in Heart Gold and Soul Silver, so good catch.
Edit: I realize that the way I worded it makes it sound like Arceus never came out, but obviously that's not true seeing as Gen 5, 6, and 7 exist. As I said, I only meant for D/P/PL, but I did forget HG/SS was a thing when I wrote it.
Still annoyed I can’t get lugia/ho oh on my pkmn emerald file
1:45
"You can encounter Arceus in the Hall of Origin in Diamond and Pearl"
Well yes but actually no
He mighta meant 12:05 but idk I didn’t check
That is true cuz arkoos (for michel) was only obtained in platinum (unless you did the unlegit void glitch)
Same I have diamond and pearl
I can’t even get the main legendary 😅
ARKOOS
a r c o o s
14:17 “Lugia and Mewtwo in Heartgold and Ho-Oh and Mewtwo in Soulsilver” Excuse me
After you beat both regions you can do some events to get the opposite box legendary , found this out by accident once and I freaked out .
yes since the main legendary (lugia in silver and ho oh in gold) is only catchable at level 40 i think and later on in the game youu can get a silver ot rainbow wing where you can catch a level 70 version of the opposite legendary (lugia in gold and ho oh in silver)
It is the only time in Pokemon history where both box legendaries could be caught in both games.
@@MrMagz924 It was doable in the original Gold and Silver as well (again, your version's at level 40 before the E4, the other one at level 70 sometime after) but basically yeah. Johto was kind to us.
Me just reading these replies be like: i like your funny words magic man
“All 1 trainers”
65% Legendary, 34% IGTs, 1% Gyarados. Seems legit.
Yey, I'm popular!
Elijah Mills the best part is excluding arceus gyrados is the strongest of all of them
MrJonathanoscar ahem, arkoos
Ball Guy Ahhh, a man of culture.
MrJonathanoscar Also excluding Magikarp
@MrJonathanoscar IT. IS. *A R C O O S*
i’m still salty till this day that we never got the Arceus event in gen 4.
We now have hope. Sinnoh remakes for the win
@@Termina_ And we have Legends Arceus which would be actually be more probable to give the players an Arceus just by finishing the story line.
@@Solaris.Energy you Mean legends arkoos.
The Strongest Pokemon in Moon:
*My Level 100 Blastoise I got from a wonder trade*
My Shiny Metagross that I got in a wonder trade
My Level 100 Shiny Arceus with pokerus that literally hasn’t worn off since I got in like 2013 on my Pokémon Y (someone 100% hacked it into the game, got it from a wondertrade when I was trying to breed a shiny ralts to get that dope shiny mega gardevour)
@@ronaldenglish8208 a r c o o s
Perfect IV (likely hacked) shiny lvl 100 Groudon l git from a wonder trade.
I just got a shiny charmander after hatching only 6 eggs.
12:04
How dare u call him arceus
His name Is...
ARKOOS
I agree
As do I
Ar-key-us.
True
Agree
Didn’t watch the whole video but my guess is
Shuckle
Dont Fuckle withe the shuckle
You should probably watch the video then...
Absolutely. This man needs a medal. NOW
You can bet your sweet beppy ass your so right
Yes it can do 2000000000 dmg and kill everyhi
"STICKY and DORIS" (I capitalized because that's how it was in gen 1)
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MUDKIP. YOU MONSTER.!
we all know the strongest pokemon is bidoof
@@sanspapyrus9564 beast
@@sanspapyrus9564
How dare you disrespect Lord Helix!
*Bow down to him* Bidoof, Wooper, and Magikarp are mere disciples of the God of Pokémon.
He may forgive your insolence... but I won’t.
@@sportsfaniguess154 ITS A SNAIL THAT DIED
That moment when a Sandshrew has the same power level as nappa
Then who's the Raditz of Pokémon?
@@goldenhydreigon4727 Larvatar...?
Can you make a top ten list with the most annoying Pokémon to battle with? Like maybe they miss a lot, only learn bad moves, have one extremely low stat (maybe it has decent stats but terrible defence), etc. I think it would be very interesting.
Pokémon Platinum
Garchomp
Reason : Cynthia
Explanation : Dragon Rush
What about earthquake?
Not a wild Pokémon.
Hotel: Triviago
Razan254 surprising, what’s not surprising is that giego can save you up to 15% or more on car insurance!
@@ShinyMew76 Did you know I dont have a car? XD
You should divide the BST by the level instead of multiplying it, so that it is the strongest in relation to when you obtain it. If you find a Pidgey on Route 1, it's more useful than if you get it in victory road.
That doesn’t make sense though? Because then a level 2 Pokémon is stronger than a level 50 Pokémon even if that level 50 Pokémon is strong when you can catch it and that level 2 isn’t
"Pimp sheep"
i'm dying
1: -Magikarp- -Caterpie- Zubat
2: -Sunkern- Shuckle
3: Zigzagoon
4: Bidoof
5: Sewaddle
6: Inkay
7: -Wimpod- Wishiwashi
I have done this list by generation. Also if you disagree, then reply with your answer.
Wow lemme get all those pokemon on my team and fight the pokemon league
Facts
YOU FORGOT SHUCKLE!
7: Wishiwashi
What about Caterpie?
When your a ten year old. Trying to become a great Pokémon trainer. And you catch a FRICKING GOD!
I'd be interested in seeing a compilation of the strongest and weakest Trainer Pokemon in each game.
Ooh good idea! I assume it would obviously not count battle facility Pokémon.
And I think the highest of them all would be Cynthia's level 88 Garchomp in BDSP, with a strength score of 52800.
As for the weakest of them all it would probably be one of the early-route Trainers?
EDIT: Wait, I might've found a higher one. In SwSh, Hop uses a level 70 Zacian and Zamazenta in some of his battles, which are in their Crowned Sword and Crowned Shield forms due to holding the proper items. Doing the calculations (720 BST*level 70), their strength score comes out to 50400... which still isn't higher than Cynthia's. She still remains supreme... for now at least.
EDIT 2: And if you do count battle facility Pokémon, the result becomes... interesting to say the least. You see, all battle facilities except both Battle Factories have a level cap of 50. However, you can fight Trainers with level 100s in the Battle Factories (the ones in Emerald, Platinum, and HGSS). Of the Pokémon that are allowed in (and thus can be rental Pokémon and used by Trainers), Slaking's BST is the highest, at 670. Hence, if you fight a Trainer that ends up having a level 100 Slaking, it's strength score is 67000. That's even higher than the level 80 Arceus discussed in the video.
(Separate reply because my other one's getting crazy-long now)
I think I found one that surpasses BDSP Cynthia, but it's a bit debatable. In USUM, Giovanni uses a level 70 Mega Mewtwo X (in US) or Y (in UM), both of which have BSTs of 780, giving them a strength score on 54600. I know Mikey said he doesn't count Mega Evos in this video, but Trainer ones are different, as they immediately Mega Evolve them before you attack it or it attacks. For instance, in this case, damage would never be calculated with regular Mewtwo's stats (and hence its base stats), but rather with Mega Mewtwo's. In any case, if Mega Evolution isn't counted, the highest strength score would still go to BDSP Cynthia's level 88 Garchomp.
Thumbnail: mewtwo, rayquaza, and magikarp?????? Who knows
Can't you find lv. 100 Gyarados in the postgame of Pokemon Platinum?
Edit: NVM it was Unova
Amaterasu1232 that was a magikarp though
But they DO have lv100 magikarp
Magikarp and gyarados
11:58 but that event was never released, so you can't legitimately obtain Arceus without being given it directly through an event.
There's a glitch you can exploit in Japanese only versions of Platinum so yes you can actually obtain Arceus in game without the item.
ARKOOS
Void time
He says it in the video though
@@meganbenz7557 none of them were for gen 4 tho
Actually, the strongest Pokemon you can catch in R/B is a level 150 Snorlax you obtain through the Old Man glitch.
Since it's Lv 150 x its base stat of 495, it comes out to a total of 74,250.
i think glitch doesnt count
@@arkandash6610 hes including all stupid pokemon here why not glitched pokemon too
Clown level glitches don't count
Updates:
SwSh: Level 100 Regigigas in the Crown Tundra (67,000, also taking the title of the highest strength score)
BDSP: Level 80 Arceus in the Hall of Origin (57,600; it IS legitimately obtainable this time, if you have save data from Legends Arceus that has obtained Arceus)
PLA: Level 75 Arceus (54,000)
Well I think lugia and ho-oh can count this this time because you can catch them in ORAS
Yes, but ORAS and RS are different games
we are talking about emerald
Yeah I know but ORAS are the remakes so yeah
HG and SS as well, u can get both
@@crystaltiger105 remakes of RS not emerald lol
Arceus is actually technically obtainable - as well as all the other “mythical” pokemon because of “the void” glitch. Which isn’t a difficult glitch to pull off - just takes a lot of time.
Regarding Arceus: It is infact possible to catch a "legit" Arceus in Diamond and Pearl using the tweaking glitch, though its not possible in Platinum because of loads of invisible walls they added. That said, while it is definitely possible, you do need to use glitches to do it. That also being said, you can get Arceus using that glitch infinitely many times, and, due to the precise manner they were created, they can actually be transferred into the Pokemon Bank, since it doesnt know the difference between an Arceus caught the way originally intended and one caught using the tweaking glitch.
explain
Teach me, sensei
@@speedreader2660 Basically, you have to tweak your way into Pal Park. From there, you have to go a specific route up to the place where you normally catch Arceus. In Pal Park, you have a menu option that can be used to leave early. The game sets the flag giving you that option upon entering, however, it is never removed because the devs never expected you to leave the way you did. Once in the hall of origin, select that option in your menu, and arceus will appear. This works because the event that would trigger its appearance was, for whatever reason, copied over to the same slot that using that flag activates. Since, for all the game knows, you obtained a legitimate one, it will not be detected by any anti-cheat measures.
@@rainolive_ Basically, you have to tweak your way into Pal Park. From there, you have to go a specific route up to the place where you normally catch Arceus. In Pal Park, you have a menu option that can be used to leave early. The game sets the flag giving you that option upon entering, however, it is never removed because the devs never expected you to leave the way you did. Once in the hall of origin, select that option in your menu, and arceus will appear. This works because the event that would trigger its appearance was, for whatever reason, copied over to the same slot that using that flag activates. Since, for all the game knows, you obtained a legitimate one, it will not be detected by any anti-cheat measures.
This was a good video, but I think that the formula could have unveiled a much more interesting stat if done slightly differently. If the Pokémon’s BST was divided by the level, then it would show what the relative strength of a Pokemon is. It would pose some neat stats
I liked how some events let the player access new locations to catch legendaries. Felt mystical in a way.
Lol in the background I see bulbasaur and squirtle in the background.
Squirtle: WTF WE WERE HIDING
They wished they were the strongest
+Cale You saw something in the background that's in the background. The redundancy department of redundancy will be calling you soon.
5:48 "pimp sheep...Why"
11:26
I see you checking his powerlevel.... I mean strength score.
Well, this whole thing felt like a one huge cop out.
?????
How so
@@kylecampbell565 he just proves if you train Pokemon to level 100 and trade them then you can beat legendary pokemon untrained.
I noticed that this video has non auto-generated subtitles now.
I’m working on a similar video idea, though it’s much more involved. I’m making massive spreadsheets quantifying how well every fully-evolved Pokemon available naturally in a region matches up to every mandatory Trainer’s Pokémon in the game. It’s a ton of work, but I’m excited to share the results on my channel once it’s fully finished!
this feels like a long math lesson
Well, you can encounter Arceus in gen 4 without receiving the event; however, it can only be done in diamond and pearl. Retire (a poketuber) discovered some glitches that can allow the player to encounter Arceus when entering the void. So technically Arceus would be the strongest in diamond and pearl
Its a glitch tho, does it count?
there is also the little bug with which you can get every event planed pokemon and item for the games
ITS ARKOOS
@@agareverie Well i guess you can choose yourself does it count. But in the video he said you can't battle it without hacking, which is false
@@Achiletos How?
I like it when you come back post-edit with your own fact checks. I appreciate the work that went into doing that. Seen your videos before Subscribed for that reason.
Never mentioned machamp in Gen 1 yellow though
I know you corrected yourself, but "all 1 trainers" did make me laugh
I love your Pokemon videos! Thanks for sharing them with us!
hi michael, i’m a new subscriber, but i have not regretted subbing. thank you so much
Thank you, Mikey, for making great content! We *REALLY* appreciate it and you.
Its great seeing this years later and seeing you close to 2mil! Can't wait for that milestone
I remember getting that Ho-Oh in Colosseum just to complete the National Dex in Diamond because without the Navel Rock event this was the only way to obtain it before HG/SS came out. Probably took me 60 - 80 hours, crazy times.
I just found my first shiny
A raticate
It fled 🤬😭😭😭😭😭
I am so sad
I’ve been playing for years
Only one
And it’s gone
RIP
Nice try to fake a shiny
Empty Hollow ok I’ll put a pic on my channel
i once found a shiny chansey in the safari zone...
😵😵😵😵😵😯😯😯😯😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 so sad i had to use emojis
Would love to see a super comprehensive list of "Strongest pokémon in each game" but instead of just base stat total and level determining this you could - and bear with me - take into account all bugs, exploits, glitches, and themes of each region as well as the learnsets of each pokémon. This would be waaaaaaaay more in depth with exponentially more research involved, but also far more interesting I think
I just got the azure flute last from the mystery gift last week.
"Hacking" pff
OMG, the subtitles actually said “Greetings Pokefans”
Really thought you'd have mentioned the shuckle thing, but great video again!
I feel that this video is one giant Dragon Ball reference!
The 'Strength Score' feels so much like DBZs 'Power Levels'.
I am not the only one that thought that
I see it more like the seven deadly sins’s power level system
The namek saga or sayen but frieza snow up better be 1 million unit power fight
on the thumbnail, Michel "Oh mewtwo is the strongest of that game. oh rayquaza is the strongest of that game. hmm what's the next one? oh it's a magicarp?"
Nice video, very informative, I understood 3% of it and learned more than I had in school.
Getting the ho--oh in Coloseeum was the greatest achievement of my childhood XD
14:32 wait jasmine can trade you a steelix 😨 I actually never knew about that trade
You can even catch it.
@@Jrpg_guy I know in the gen 4 games you can caught wild steelixis but I never knew jasmine trades you a steelix in hgss
@@oresti9271 all gymleader can trade i think. Maybe not all but more than jasmine, for sure.
@@Jrpg_guy I also didn't know that
That means there are 2 in-game NPC's in the series that will trade a Steelix to you; the other is someone in Cylliage City (the place with the Rock gym) in Pokémon X and Y.
Isn’t mewtwo’s bst in gen 1 technically 744 since it’s sp attack and sp def are combined as one special stat, effectively meaning mewtwo’s special defense in gen 1 is actually 154 rather than 90. As for electrode’s bst, it remains the same since it’s current sp attack and sp defense stats are the same. So Mewtwo is still the strongest (52080).
2:55 in red and glue
When he says yvetal name right but says arceus not Arkoos
*CONFUSED SCREAMING*
Not many people have have watched that episode which is why it isn't used as much.
Ar-key-us because In every Pokedex book a.k.a La holy texts which is canon it says word for word "pronunciation: Ar-key-us " soooooo conflicting evidence and I'm sure at least one of my books were made before and def after it says as read sooooo yeah I rest my case
Did any body notice Michael said “Lugia in gold and ho oh in silver” I haven’t played the games but isn’t ho oh gold and lugia silver?
Gamer_does_ Art no he's right you catch ho oh in gold first at 40 then post game lugia at 70 and in silver you catch lugia at 40 and ho oh at 70 post game
@@MrJonathanoscar I still find it as a mixup tho
@@_MegaMind_ no because he is taking it from catch levels
MrJonathanoscar oh thanks! I was kinda confused about it.
Yeah your right
When I heard that the Electrode's name was Doris I just about died
I think you forgot about the duplication glitch in red and blue, I once caught a level 100 snorlax while surfing on the east side shoreline on Cinnabar Island and I think I also caught a level 100 gyarados there once too on a different paly through of the game
"All 1 trainers " 🤣🤣
Wen
Level 70 Groudon and Kyogre are also available in Emerald’s postgame! Hence it would be a 5-way tie!
groudon and kyogre have BST of 670 not 680 making them a bit weaker
I'm pretty sure u can fight a level 70 rayquaza if u have both kyogre and groudon in either hg or ss so maybe a three way tie
While Ho-Oh and Lugia rely on the mystery gift item in Emerald, you still technically get them through normal means (battling and catching them). At some point at least the ticket was legitimately available at some point (now though, yes you would have to hack the game) whereas the Azure Flute never was available. Imo, Lugia and Ho-Oh count, but Acreus does NOT simply because of that.
How dare you call him Arceus
Now you shall feel the wrath of
*ARKOOS*
Yaveltal agrees
Thx for that
Ur welcome I love watching you
Alternative title: 47600
You go to the hall of origin, and see Arkoos himself. What does he have to say? Dodogyuuun!
“All 1 pokemon trainers” lol
You can get a level 80 mewtwo via glitch gen 1
You get MEW with a glitch, but it starts lv. 8
Since in Emerald you have to use mystery gift to get Lugia and Ho-Oh, they shouldn't count
but they're IN the game. navel rock is there, it's a place
Can also catch Groudon and kyogre at level 70 in the post game
@@jamesreed3452 so. levels don't matter. their stats aren't as high
@@The_Sphinx-22 haha didn't realise they didn't have the same stat total... I suppose all is made up for their broken abilities!
@@jamesreed3452 they don't have them in emerald, just gen 6 and after
As someone who played the 1st gen nonstop, enjoyed everything including the films and cartoons, gotta say im quite happy mew two is holding his own and being in the mix still :)
MEW IS GENDERLESS, NOT A F*CKING HE! WE DO NOT CALL GENDERLESS POKEMON HE OR SHE!
@@Amelia4111 calm down man
@@Amelia4111 it was just a small mistake, it’s not THAT big of a deal. I get that random things like that can be somewhat bothersome, but I don’t think it warrants that much of a reaction
I absolutely love that you included X.D.
Michael: then you need to beat all 1 Pokémon trainers
We: so that is a lot of work | (
Lugia/Ho-oh, and arceus should not count imo. Yes, you have to battle and catch them, but its impossible to even get the opportunity without the mystery gift item. Plus, arceus needs hacking/glitches to even have a chance, so it should automatically be disqualified. But that's just my way of seeing it.
You can catch Arcueus legit I you watch a RETIRE video it will show you hiw
@@ianuarius5798 well, ive searched it up, and the only possible way includes some kind of minor glitch.
@@howmanysubscanigetwithabso8259 look up RETIRE RUclips channel and It will show you the glitch called void glitch you have to do the slow bike tweak in jubilife city
@@howmanysubscanigetwithabso8259 and minor?? You can get DARKRAI, SHAYMIN and feeling Arcueus
@@ianuarius5798 "it will show you the glitch" that still means it should not count. Also, darkrai/Shaymin are either not counted on the video or are not the strongest.
I’d love to see a version of this list excluding legends!
all 1 trainers XD, best misspoken sentancy ever. It's weird he didn't hear himself say it during the recording
hey Micheal, I hope you and Jubilee are doing good. You two are my favourite youtube couple.
thanks for the heart Micheal
Linkle tapping wholesome
And the best
You do know that the heart goes away when you edit the comment right
Heard the Gen 1 strongest pokemon: Aight Ima head out
It's not even right lol. He's using current BSt; not Gen 1 BSt pre-special split.
Raikaria, but he did actually correct himself.
From Pokemon Talk, you can see in 15:58 Squirtle and Bulbasaur behind Micheal standing on their Megas, along with Dragonite, Pikazilla, Alex (Charmander), Blaziken, Purified Lugia, Groudon, Hawlucha, Ivysaur and Wartortle.
Oh, and a tiny piece of Dragonair is very slightly seen above Micheal's shoulder.
Oh wait, in 16:38 you can see Flygon, Kyogre, Treecko, Alolan Mega Raichu, Genesect, 10% Zygarde Corgi, Mewtwo.
Oh, and a tiny piece of Froakie above Micheal's other shoulder.
This “strength score” seems both gimmicky and not representative of the actual value of a pokemon in a battle. Multiplying by levels just skews your results towards pokemon you can receive at level 100, while you could just as well train a competitively better pokemon to that level and it would be stronger. Seems to me that you traded in one boring metric (base stat total) for a different boring metric, neither of which is reflective of the “best” pokemon in a game.
This seems like an exercise in mucking around with numbers, which is fine and well and I found it somewhat interesting-but not as it was advertised, as discussing the “strongest” pokemon of each game. I would’ve preferred actual analysis of strategy, potentially including discussion of stuff like typing, movesets, stats, and what opponents you face in the game, but I guess that could just be me. And yes, it would be subjective based on what sorts of strategies you prefer, but what’s so bad about that? If you want to avoid always selecting the pokemon with the highest base stats, you can omit legendaries from the analysis.
Again, would just like to say that this video was reasonably interesting-i watched all of it-i just dont think it’s a very accurate metric of “strongest pokemon”
Pretty sure most poketubers are in this for the insanely dedicated audience. If you know what I mean. I completely agree with your comment though.
I think the point is just what pokemon can you pickup and it instantly be powerful
@@JJ-gl9mn But you can't just "pick up" one of these lvl 100 trade pokemon, you have to spend hours training a very specific pokemon in exchange. All he did here was create a fluff formula that equates to "Pokemon at drastically higher levels are stronger than low level pokemon with high base stats"
Nathanyel Haney fair enough lol, i catch your drift
Well said
19:23 Did he just try to do the woah?
Obvs its bidoof in gen 4
Edit: *_Dissapointed_*
@Loomy Zoomy I'm tired of the Bidoof memes too
Disappointed**
@@AuraStrikeAce thing is it isnt because of the memes
Been going through some of your backlog, because it’s good background noise while I’m doing house work, and after listening to this I wondered who had the highest strength score in Sword and Shield since this video predates the games and it’s DLC and I found something interesting and I’m sorry if it’s already been pointed out.
There is a special raid den in the Crown Tundra’s Giants Bed area that doesn’t appear to do anything at first glance however if you go to it with all 5 of the different Regis in your party then you get to participate in a braid battle against a level 100 Regigigas. Regigigas has a BST of 670 and therefor a strength score of 67,000. Not only do I believe that this is the strongest one in Sword and Shield but I believe, unless I’m just missing something big, that makes it the Pokémon with the highest Strength Score in the series and by quite a large amount. I got my info from Serebii so if I got something wrong I blame them.
Using this method, could you calculate the strongest trainer in each game?
The rarest pokemon of all is really....
Lord Helix
nujiryonano
When you have this many mistakes you need to re shoot the video.
Not when you're a greedy youtuber
He didn't need to reshoot I don't think it wasnt enough mistakes and btw he's not greedy
@@HaruGita i dont think this attributes to greed
Can't get over how the Ampharos in the Ho-oh battle is named "Pimp Sheep"
Feel like it was a missed not opportunity not to include type effectiveness in this.
Stats ÷ weaknesses × strengths × level acquired.
(Skip division if 0)
So a gen 1 MewTwo would be
680 ÷1 × 2 × 70 = 95,200
When accounting for it's bugged lack of weakness to ghost
A regular Mewtwo meanwhile would be
680 ÷ 3 × 2 × 70 = 31,733.33 recurring
Think this would allow you to touch upon battle in a fun way without having to dive into move pools
14:48
*Rusty has entered the chat*
Perfect Bidoof has entered the chat*
*Rusty has been forced to work at his parents deli for all time*
*Perfect Bidoof, Cleffaye Valentine, and Good Rusty have left the chat
Magikarp has ascended to a level Beyond Super Saiyan he's super Saiyan duperliayan
Ho ho and lugia I think should count in emerald because even though the item you need to get to them is an event or mystery item, technically both legendary Pokémon are in the game's code and you can legitimately acquire them with out just getting them via the internet . same with arceus in gen 4
Michael, in pokemon red and blue you can manipulate the cinnabar island glitch to capture level 128 pokemon from the last wild area that you encountered a pokemon. I had several hypnos that bodied Mewtwo.