I NEVER Thought This Paint Trick Would Work Until I Tried it Myself!
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- In this episode we reveal trade secrets I use everyday to get clean spray jobs. There is no money in buffing cars and the best way to get a clean spray job is to prepare the surface properly. In this video I will show you the quick tips you can start using right away and see big differences on your project!
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Brian, for somebody that keeps saying, don't over think it, it's just paint. You certainly do put a lot of thought into painting, which is a good thing. How can you keep improving without thinking. I enjoy your videos. Thank you for sharing with us.
Sometimes when we are in the thick of things while painting we are trying to over analyze. At paint society I do the thinking for you so you don’t have to! 😇
So glad you said the customer was only paying for a blend panel. So many keyboard warriors out there knocking people about not doing more work than what they are getting paid for. Turned out awesome as usual and im painting my Del Sol tomorrow black so it was very helpful.
As a Dupont paint rep told me yrs ago--If you're going to have an issue with a paint job, It's going to be black! It shows everything and when you get it outside the surface will absorb heat more than any other color with the potential of a chemical reaction. Nice work Mr. P. Society!
Love and hate relation with black paint hah. Thanks !
Mr P. Society? I dig it!
Learned that the hard way 🥹
.... and red is the hardest to match and quickest to fade. I think this is why most fleet vehicles are white, def easiest color for a vehicle
The way I look at it, the paint work showcases your repair work, prep work, attention to detail (how does that go, the devil is in the details), and talent. And, the most important part, whether or not you strive for continuous improvement, and an endless journey for knowledge, or if you embrace "satisfaction", the end of your journey. I think black provides the ultimate learning opportunity, there's nothing that teaches like mistakes. Get black right, and you can most-likely get anything right.
super tip about tacking the plastic... if you think about it, the plastic almost always has some static charge, and holds onto more duct that we think...thanks!!
I was surprised at how much 'fog'/overspray seems to drift away...is this a big problem for a 'hobbyist' painter...I have HPLV guns...
Not just sweet production technique, so much insight for home garage guys as well.
Brother, I literally thought paint was magic until I started watching your work. TY for sharing this digestible high-quality knowledge.
I’m glad you can carry some of these tips into the garage at home. Thanks so much for the comment
When you use extra slow reducer your paint & clear dry slower which increases the amount of dust that can settle on the project.....just saying.
All fast 4 me
Depends on temperature and humidity. If its 100+ degrees. Slow works nice
@@jonahstoyroom7516 I won't paint if it's 85 or above....even with slow dry. Just too warm and moving around so much in my booth creates
all the more temp and SWEAT. ;-(
Hands down one of the best painter channels 🙌🏻
Agree!
Wow, thank you!
10:00 WOW that looks freaking amazing!
As an old veteran painter "coach and motor painter" to be technical, I have noticed 2 alarming things about your technique that I must say are a little concerning, for me anyway, That gun set up seems to be atomizing way to much, and your "stroke action "or arm action does not have any wrist movement, something that is essential for evenness of cover and eliminates dry spray, especially on final coats, but this time you covered it by going back and finishing the edge, nice job in the end, All the best, Al
I feel like I'm watching impractical jokers? Your not single have three cats and live alone? P.S thanks for the tips.
I always put masking paper around the edges of plastic , cus sometimes the clear flakes off when air hits the plastic so I put paper to absorb it
It should never because one side of the plastic is treated
Thanks for your company that let you do this video's to show us this tips and tricks thanks Brain like always smashing my like botton Texas style yahoooooooooo katakaboooooooooooooooom
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I like clearing my blend panel last, because that stuff will slide right off those smooth surfaces without paint on them!
I always learn something new every time I watch this channel. Sheez full of knowledge.
Thank you!
I love your videos! I’m stuck in prep and paint sometimes but I’m 23 and want to paint! My dads a painter but different field of painting. Your videos help me a lot and when I use the info I learn from you it impresses the lead painter who’s been doing collision work for 28 years. Thank you. Would love a review on the sata 5500 rp it’s what is used at my job.
Glad to hear your making progress! I don’t use satas as they don’t fit my spraying style but they are still Great guns.
Sata 5500 rp 1.3 is what I use at work as well. Great for waterborne base paint as well as clear 👍 but if you're a good painter, technically you can spray a good clean paint job with any quality gun
@@PaintSociety what would be your favorite gun? I just got a sata nr95 for cheap to start doing projects at home.
@@WerdularMotion we use a 1.4 I for my work and spray solvent based onto aluminum boats.
Dude I'm in the same boat as you, I just turned 23 and my dad is a painter too. I've been learning steadily but man its been great so far.
You and the gunman are always saying get a good spray gun and wondering if there is a place for the R500's out there. I have seen one channel that uses it for almost everything and preaches that it works awesome for small compressor or environments where you don't want a lot of overspray.
Chris from garage noise uses it and he has great results. I’m not knocking the gun but there are better guns that make painting easier. The r500 he uses is great for DIY and that’s why he uses it to show it works
@@PaintSociety Good to know. My problem, and maybe other newbies, is that it is hard to tell which guns are good for the DIY guy who paints something 3-4 times a year and just can't justify multiple 300$+ guns.
I picked up DeVilbiss flg5, from spray guns direct, on reccomendation of gunner with a 1.2 tip and use it for base coat and clear (kinda a PITA using same gun for both) but have been looking for a diy friendly gun to augment my setup for a while. I considered getting another flg5 but no one else talks about that gun
You got that distance and fluid motion locked in!
I paint guitars and find your channel to be invaluable. Thanks for sharing tips like this :)
I've watched all your videos, I bought a 700 dollar iwata. Still get massive orange peel. I give up
Don’t stop trying! Dm me on IG
@@PaintSociety dont over think it, it's just paint😃
Brain killing it again! Love my Sagola's! Great guns for sure!
Brian, is it true that in the early 90s Honda OEM paint was single-stage? Someone told me this but I don't think he is correct. Hope you can clarify. thank you!
Excellent job, Brian. Do you have a video on refinishing used front bumper with many tiny chips???
Hi Brian, I love your videos. I own a small body shop in Tampa and we mostly do insurance work. I was having trouble with the high metallic colors but after watching some of your videos I am now much better with the metallics along with implementing 15:12 other tricks on f the trade I have seen on your videos. Thank you for taking the time to explain everything so well. Best channel for auto paint on RUclips!! Btw, which clear did you use on the black Acura? Which Tamco clear do you use. Thank you once again.
Lesonal universal clear. Thanks so much for your kind words!
THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP YOU INSPIRED ME TO DO MY OWN PAINTING LOL I DONT EVEN HAVE A BOOTH AND THEY TURN OUT DECENT!
I recently bought a conversion from 1.4 to 1.2 for my gun and wow super better paint jobs
How do you measure cap pressure for HVLP guns? Data sheets for the primers I use specify air cap pressure for HVLP guns.
Don’t measure cap. Ignore that. Just use a pressure that works
Depends on the clear at the end. We use Sikkens PC. I was recommended a 10 m flash first coat, bake immediately after second coat. It's been working great that way.
Got to thinking……..I have 20 year old single stage paint that is in pretty good condition. Can (should) I squirt a clear coat over it?
Great job Brian.... question how long after should the tape be removed ? And will it leave lines where the paint was painted?
Wish my cars paint looked this good. Someone vandalized my car
Great tips
painting used to be a no thinking gig, dust on a couple dry coats of color lacquer wait 15 minutes then throw on a couple coats of clear enamel and you were done......
One of the things to help with getting a clean paint job that most painters never do is clean the air hose in the booth.
Excellent work, I don’t know how you didn’t get a run. Do you recommend using slow reducer even in cold weather.
Having trouble blending? youtube.com/@Murderthefinish
Have you ever RUclipsr. China car paint mixing,those guys are masters.
nice video i hope any newbies can grasp how important it is to have your base lay on flat i had many paint jobs shrink up on rocky looking base and never understood why it was dulling until i understood years ago that it was my fault for not putting down the base slick like you do
That's the perfect way to apply basecoat I would of used the tack rag in between coats you see people wacking on big heavy coats I don't know how they get away with it
Ok, so now that your paint job looks 10 times better than the rest of the car, should you cut and buff the car that has the old paint.
He's another chip foose this guy could paint a car with a paint brush and make it look good.
Brian u a maestro I'm a cancer patient and learning a lot from u awesome pity we can't get those good results gun only the cheaper hopeless ones
Technically weight and volume is different.
Hey really enjoying your videos! Im looking at doing some surface rust repair on my silver metallic subaru. I just cant decide if i wanna go with cans or a gun! Whats the biggest factor when deciding ? Is it just not having all the equipment that makes people use the spray cans at home more ? Or is the sray gun alot harder? Thank you and keep up the great work 👍
Paint gun! It’s going to give the best possible outcome
Oh my God look at that Sagola do its thing ! 😍
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don't expect to get a giftaway because it's impossible 😁😁
how do you find out how much reducer to use normally? My reducer doesn't say how much to use, so I normally just use "1" part... if the paint mixes 4:1 I'll mix it 4:1:1
Add it to your basecoat is what I’m saying. After it is all reduced. Then find out the total amount of oz and use the calculated trick
Thanks for the calculator trick, I never thought about it to divide by ten
X slow reducer is definitely a big key in geting a flat finish. I say alot on my page as well that if your basecoat aint smooth, anything you put ontop will not be ither
What size tip did you used in that clear gun ?
No gun control and mil it out, mils all over the board, in my opinion don’t listen or do what this guy does
JUST WANTED TO LET U THAT I'VE LEARNED A LOT OF TRICKS FROM WATCHING YOU
Customer: one piece of dirt? I'm not paying!
another great video, If you go heavy on your first coat and get the coverage just allow more flash time while you're doing other things multitasking. 👍
Thanks for the info!
We also run a sheet of plastic about 3 feet above the car from one end to the other helps alots attracts trash thunder road auto body.
99% of a good paint job is the prep. Spraying is the easy part.
What clear do you use
How much are those paint guns
That run down the rear door would’ve been where I made waterfalls
Also tack off your paint suit every time.
Dealing with the local autobody shop that fixed my truck on an insurance job. New box side, repainted box side, and this is how it turned out. Pulled flys out of the paint. All kinds of junk in the paint. And they keep trying to tell me, even dealers get stuff in the paint, it's "normal". And the orange peel looks way, way heavier than the rest of the truck.
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Hi, I saw the video, its hard to tell because the camera makes it look good but I can see tons of swirls, defects in the paint and dulled out clearcoat on the bedside. If this is a shop your insurance company recommended then you can go back to your insurance and fight it to make it right otherwise its you against the shop. Debris and dirt can happen but a good painter can get a much better job, we do it all the job without any problems.
OK, He's right when He said to never spray the paint too wet. That's because He's using Sikkens. But, some other brands like BASF RM UNO HD for instance, ask for a full wet coat on the fist visit and a half coat on the second. So we should never generalized things.
Shoot! We get 2.5 hours to Buff/Sand on our estimates. Than again; my jobs come out clean with an exception of 2-3 dirt nibs. 😅
This video has so many helpful tips thankyou! Would it be beneficial to ground strap the car to avoid static or is that a Mith?
Jesus, if I sprayed like that I’d have drips and sags everywhere, I likely need to turn my fluid down to get a better finish
This gun is super slow
Brian nuke it off and hop in to a cruise ship 🚢 is waiting for you 😂
You have any videos on reducing base with or without a Ford Cup. RM and PPG seems to spray well per instructions but valspar doesn’t not.
Just dropped off my black 01 Honda Prelude yesterday to got the whole front end repainted. Rock chips on bumper and hood and clear coat fade on both fenders. They’re going to remove mirrors and window trim to blend the doors into the rest,hopefully it works good. Hello from British Columbia
I understand that the costumers didn't pay for the damage off the blend door 😂 but it was very small and other possible customers will focus on the quality and defect .the best free advertising is customers. 🎉🎉
Then we have to blend the next panel and we lose $700 on the job
You are the most Amazing person I ever Know ...... GOD BLESS YOU and your Family
What kind of sealer do you use ?? Thanks
Ok how do you put that much on without it running?? Just sayn I know you can but I always get runs and try to fix and end up repraying.single stage metalic,prep up to 400 or 600?? and I clear over that
slicker than cat puke on linoleum !
How are you going to get the dirt off if you're not buffing?
Great video as usual. But what about 10:12. It's a shame to do all this work and find there's a small dent in the crease of the panel. What would be your solution at this time? How about paintless dent repair. I live in the UK and the guys charge about £100 per panel for a repair.
What do you use to degrease and clean just prior to spraying? I tried lacquer thinner, but it affected the primer, as in removing some. Also what towel? I tried the paper blue shop towel with some rubbing alcohol but they kept depositing lint, which I got off with a low tack rag, but it was a pain.
Super clean with water before it hits the booth.
Micro fiber towels for cleaners in the booth
@@PaintSociety What cleaners in the booth?
@@bp7178he literally tells you in the video…
@@jordanbest3926 least helpful answer award…
Ok that first coat of clear had me laughing you was like 2 inches off spreading heavy than said you don't want it too wet 😂😂
Hard to understand why a customer wouldn’t want to spring for fixing that dent! C’mon man! Nice job
Ive been painting cars for close to 15 years. I dont use a cup gun, I use a titan 440 airless with a graco contractor gun. No buffing necessary.
Amazing talent, amazing results. I greatly enjoy your videos. Thank you 👍
I always wash and dry elements and car before paint. Second I use cloth antistatic between layers, primer wet on wet, base etc. A third. I never used a manometr to clear. I though: more pressure its better atomisation for clear. It's not. I'm painting in cabin and now I dont have any dirt.;
Is it possible to just reclear a car without clear coat burn? As long as it's done up and over on each panel?
My concern is the paint underneath might be too thick and cause bubbling or cracking from the heat and thickness, ruining the new clear coat or discoloring the paint.
How should one approach this if only the clear coat is getting hazy on the factory finish (especially bumpers and painted plastics like the hood scoop) but the base is still looking good.
Thanks B
400, 600, 800 wet sand! is what I did, and finally had a paint job come out clear, clean, smooth.
My local shop loves to scratch the fresh clear coat. I think it’s to match the rest of the car I told them there is no need to the last time and they still did it. They told me the clear was still a little soft so to bring it in in a month and they would buff it. Shouldn’t need it right?
Brian would you use same technique for a semi-gloss clear over a dk. green(blk) base?
Thanks for the tips,
Frank
Really cool u use Sikkens so I been painting for 30 years the energy select is a bad ass clear I use slow don’t like the fast using slow in the base coat makes it easier to blend metallic colors so what do you do to blend pastel colors
What clear coat was that with the 1.3 on the Sagola? Curious to learn about tip size vs thickness of clear coat. Some say larger tip like 1.4 for thicker material, and others say smaller tip size like a 1.2 and higher pressure to break the thick clear up. I can lay lower solids clears with no peel, but struggle with thicker clears.
Your work is outstanding! But when I overlap, I very often get like a mist on! Maybe the gun I'm using or the settings!
@paintsociety - Brian, would this trick of thinning by another 10% work for 1K as well as 2K? I presume you're using two pack paints. Do you also thin down the clear coat?
2 Questions. Are you painting Waterbase or Solvent, and Are you a combo tech? ( do all the work from the ground up) Been watching your channel for a while now. Thanks for the Inspiration. Im new in the business. Just finished my first round of Icar Classes for Diamont, blending techniques, color adjustment.
I haven't done any serious painting since the late 80s early 90s, so your channel is an awesome refresher course, and hopefully do some paint work on my C5 Corvette, thanks
I have a C5 on the channel. I’m getting working back on it soon
@@PaintSociety Awesome👍
Looks great!
Had a question for you. I picked up a ford raptor in tuxedo black. Hood needs repainted as well as a door so I’ll be blending.
Rest of the paint looks fine. No deep scratches but the clear looks old as it’s 10 years old. My question is would I get food adhesion if I say 400/600 sanded the whole truck to clear the whole truck in the clear stage? I know buffing is the usual answer. But with money and time not being a factor as it’s my time and I’d like the best result at the end I was just curious and brainstorming ideas.
Thanks Brian!
Awesome 👍
I've learned a lot from your videos
Thanks for the great tips Sensei
Brian U have really helped us improve a lot thank you so much but I want to request that you teach us how to mix paint with the ratios
Very nice! That does work I've been doing this for years
Absolutely amazing job as always Brian! Thank you for taking the time to teach us all the tips & tricks that could result in very time-consuming & costly errors!
great job!! That metallic shows amazing in the daylight............
One way it shows how good you actually are, that looked effortless. Beautiful finish.
The tape lines killed my paint job on the door. Tried to roll the edges but after clear coat dried …..
dude loved the channel it seems like your going the same as gunman. thats why i have been watching kandyman but he doesnt go into detail i dont need it but i can always learn more 20 years in the game
Have you used waterborne basecoat? It’s usually wet on wet application with the second being an effect coat. Also do you normally apply clear less than 40 percent overlap because you seem to be a fast painter?