I have a TD-12 that I love. Does this module have as many features? It doesn't look as advanced as a TD-12. Does it have the "Pole Bend" feature? Could I still assign any sound to any trigger? Like a bass drum on the hihat bell or a tom on a cymbal? These would be a factor in me buying one or not. Thank you.
Whether you like these drums or not (I do :) ) you gotta admit that Nick is one of the best drum set reviewers. I really like his drumming style, enthusiasm, etc. Thanks for the video!
What people don't like about electric drum samples is not the samples themselves but the lack of microphone bleed, and the play from the room that you're used to hearing. The samples themselves are incredible and Roland knows what they're doing. Especially the new room modeling. You also have to understand where V-Drums come from. Roland was a pioneer of drum machines. Think of the original V-Drum kit as a playable drum machine that has evolved over the years. That concept was revolutionary especially for electronic and hip hop. Suddenly you could play samples in whatever feel you want. Plus once you start stacking samples you can play in real time, that's where some of the real value lives.
I like that they’ve finally made a kit with the right sizes makes the transition to acoustic drums much easier. Hitting a 6” pad was never like the feel of a 14” floor Tom. I have converted a gretsch Catalina jazz to an e kit with mesh heads, yamaha triggers and gen 16 cymbals. Though I have to say my yamaha is a cheap dtx502 module but the drums actually sound like acoustic drums, whereas this roland kit just sounds like a roland kit. I only use 2 kit sounds on mine, beech custom or jazz bop kit. The cymbals on this sound great though and I’m sure the triggering is spot on for the pads.
@@gingerbaker1 He never said they sucked, he implied that more drummers prefer real drums than electric ones. I think that's true with every instrument.
Special Agent Krycek yes but it’s a necessity sometimes!!! Acoustic drums are wayyy to loud for my place!!! I know a nice DW goes for $1500 and med tier serum is $2500-3000. But I’d rather pay double or so to play than not too.
I have an Alyssis DM-10 kit I play for fun and relaxation and jamming with my garage band buds. I am not a pro. I don’t gig or record. This is just a hobby to me, but I take it seriously as music is part of my brain exercise regimen (along with photography, building simple robots, and a few others. I am considering moving up to a Roland kit as I have improved a bit since I got the Alyssis kit about five years ago. I have nothing bad to say about electronic drums. Since I have lived in situations not conducive to banging on real acoustic drums, edrums are my only option. But they’re also more convenient to throw in my car to take to one of my musical bud’s house for a jam.
Sweetwate helped me get my Dream Drum set I order Roland 506 today 48 mo. financing and Great Video. Your a fantastic Drummer Nick, I enjoy all you videos
A few weeks ago, I was visiting some friends from college and they introduced me to a drummer friend of theirs who had one of these kits. It may be the most impressive looking, sounding and feeling electronic drum set I've ever come across. The drummer said he went for this kit because he always was interested in electronic drums because of the endless sound options but previously wasn't into buying one because of the smaller sizes, so when this came out he bought this instead of a high end acoustic kit. He loves having a full sized kit to play in his apartment with little noise, and said the ride cymbal and snare are the best electronic pieces he's ever played. He even gigs with it and plugs the module into the band's PA.
I think its great what Roland is doing. I`ve used their gear for years and none of it is obsolete. If you don`t like their sounds, load your own. They`re phenomenal for recording. Just plug in the USB port and make sure the Midi channels line up with your DAW and you`re ready to roll. Beats the crap out of miking. Super clean and the Midi tracks are fully editable so you can easily fix any mistakes or poor timing of drummers who aren`t quite up to par without tossing out the track. No microphone bleed! I love it.
Dang I feel you, some of the drum sample libraries like addictive drummer, superior drummer, toon tracks, etc... sound good to me but the stock vdrum stuff is lacking for sure.... you spend 3-4K on edrums and then have to pay a couple hundred more for a decent sounding sound kit, bummer all around.
And yet, people spend 10k on wood with one sound. It’s not always practical or useful in a studio or at home like an apartment for example. Great job champ.
Well; even tho I’m a bassist; I have to admit; Roland really nailed this set. I would love to get it for my home studio, just to record and learn how to play so I can do my demos. 😌🎶❤️🥁🎹👍🏾
Roands are great in comparison to the other e drum manufacturers. I like the look of the full kit, but it definitely has a niche market. The only reason I ever bought a set of v drums(used) was for, 1) the obvious lack of noise. 2) the space savings. That's just my 2 cents
I have been using Roland products for 45 years. Drum machines, synth keyboards, modules, samplers, multitrack recorders and electronic drums. The truth is, Roland needs to come down off his high horse. This price range is for working professionals making bucks were five grand is nothing to drop. Let's get real and make these kits priced for the everyday drumming man...
Great review as always but lost me at 5:00 - Roland still doing a fantastic machine gun impression running the toms - I’m sure I’ll be getting a Roland kit of some form in the future to replace my Simmons gear but it will be triggering some outboard samples Whatever Nick played they sounded dead and limited in range
i feel like this offers a lot of options. honestly not as disappointed as i thought i was going to be i like the diversity I dont have hardly any experience in the other high end rolands but seeing the walk through on tuning options for wood/ build material type you could have multiple sets in one theres definitely a lot of pros and cons but i think this certainly offers a lot of conveniences
Cymbals sound pretty convincing, and the toms ain't bad. Snare sounds a bit too perfect as is typical of electronic kits. I'd like to hear a big, bright, ringy snare sound, though I'm sure you could achieve that by messing around with the settings. Who else is here because SARS-CoV-2 makes you wish you hadn't traded in your electronic drums for acoustic ones?
Love these drums! I bought mine from sweetwater few months ago and they’re a total game changer! I’m pretty new to e drums and the only problem I’m running into is for cymbal swells. It sounds like I’m rolling on the bow vs swelling on the edge. Anybody have any tips or tricks?
we need this press release...and so does Roland... "Roland's upcoming new v drum flagship the all new DD-77 will have all digital pads and cymbals with vst and bluetooth. Release Date: Winter Namm 2021" dream on..........................
I wish you guys at Sweetwater would do a demonstration to show how much of a difference switching to electronic drums in a small Church environment can have on a congregations perspective. Do a room comparison without a drum Shield with a drum Shield and with electronic drums. It's so hard to convince a drummer of how valuable this tool is with very minimal sacrifice with today's electronic drum sets.
Audience will likely hear a lot more nuance and better sound from the e-drums, because the e-drums sounds come through speakers. Acoustic drums, unmiked, are radiant point sources, and much of that sound never gets to the audience, it just muddies up everything as it reverberates through the room.
So........I'm a drummer of sorts but have set up a small studio to primarily write but also to record other musicians........I have been tossing up between getting an acoustic kit with some good mics or a Roland E kit.......If I am honest with myself, I don't think I could get as good a sound with the acoustic option when also taking the recording space into consideration.......I could also use the E kit to trigger Superior drummer samples.......Really stuck at the moment to be honest
what now in the beginning of 2024... is the VAD506 still relevant or what is worth investing in? found a guy wanting to sell me this 506 drum kit for a bit over 3000 dollars... it looks amazing.. but so much is happening on the drum stage.. like the Evans Sensory Hybrid System.. what to look into now in the new 24? thanks for sharing this with us!
How you doin,' everybody? Andrew Jacob here, and I need to replace my loud-ass oak drums with these drums. Why? 'Cause lockdown. 'Cause I'm a basement musician with a family and always will be. 'Cause ROLAND VAD506.
"These drums are incredible. Let me give you mortals a small demonstration" I'm certain theres a hole in the atmosphere caused by thomas lang playing a cow bell with a bass drum pedal.
I have an almost 8 year old who fell in love with this kit in store last week. She's just beginning and I want to get her something that will work for her long term as well as (selfishly) for myself and my older kids who play. Are these at all adjustable for a smaller size player?
Hello, emjwoods! An 8-year-old is almost to the age where they are ready for a full-sized drum kit. Growth spurts seemingly happen overnight and getting a full-sized kit early on will help with developing proper technique. These kits also have plenty of adjustment points, allowing you to keep everything within her reach. Thanks for the interest! Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
I don't know man, one of the advantages of electronic drums is the fact that they're easily portable and take less space. This model throws that out of the window, so I guess it's made to be used on shows so that audience think it's an acoustic kit? or the band wants the drums to be really quiet in a small venue? I'm just struggling to figure out who is this kit for.
I agree! It's for people who are ashamed of the form factor of e-drums. What I want is the Roland George Jetson kit. A suitcase that unfolds with all pads already on arms and the suitcase is the drum rack. Carry your thirty-pound kit in one hand.
I have the TD17 and TD11 kits combined to form one big kit but I absolutely love the features you showed in the TD27 module. I love my Roland drums but I do not like the combined cable connection. Does the TD27 have separate pad connections like the TD50 or is it combined? Great video. If I ever get the money this will be my next kit for sure.
In that this kit has all mesh heads, it is quite a bit quieter than electronic drum kits with rubber pads. I'd equate it to about 10% of the overall volume of an acoustic drum kit. Thanks for the interest! Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
Loudest things on my TD-17 kit are the hi-hat, cymbals, and kick pad (hi-hat especially; it's a constant "thwack thwack thwack"). I wonder if these cymbals are quieter because they're softer and thinner?
Hi, thanks for your interest! Yes - the TD-50X module included with the VAD506 kit features 14 trigger inputs, so you can potentially add up to 5 more pads in addition to the 9 that come with the kit. You can use any Roland V-Drum pads for this purpose, but they do offer VAD pads that would match the rest of the kit. Feel free to contact me directly with any further questions, and thanks again! Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
@@suheru Nonsense. Sounds are great. Massively tweakable. These are not made to sound like how acoustic drums sound when you are the drummer sitting at the kit. Because the audience NEVER hears that. Roland makes their kits and their presets to sound good cutting through a live band. They are actually not idiots.
@@gingerbaker1 Bullshit. It sounds bad because their drum modules only have as much processing power as a 20 year old computer, and they can't handle real high quality samples. With any laptop and $100-$400 worth of software you can get far better sounds and more flexibility than the drum module on this offers.
I think Roland are being very deceptive with their advertising of the TD27 module!! They say it has kits off the TD50 module, which makes you think it's the same sound quality!! Clearly it isn't. I don't think it's terrible though!! When you watch Nick make his own user kit, it sounds really nice!!
How many additional drums and cymbals and so forth can you add (open channels)? A second floor tom? another crash cymbal? Cowbell? A gong would be cool.
Hey, Ben. Thanks so much for your interest. You have room for 3 additional triggers. You can assign them to be what you’d like. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Hi Nick. Great demo, particularly showing how a small change in a parameter can effect the whole sound. I get fed up with the gripes of the acoustic drummers. Complaining about price? Serious acoustic drummers may spend up to $5000 just on a snare, and over $1000 on a cymbal!! Only to have the whole sound lost by poor FOH. In fact, a drummer who plays Tama and is sponsored by them, borrowed my TD 20 for a recording session because he was fed up with what mix engineers did to his sound, and just fed them the 8 direct outs to get a balance that suited the mix. Yes, I would like a few more kick and snare sounds, but at least I can change them. Buy a ‘real’ snare or cymbal and you are stuck with it. Roland over priced. Just as in cars, you pay for quality. I have my 15 year old TD20 Exp that has never hit a beat wrong (apart from my poor playing). Nothing has failed. I only changed the heads a couple of months ago, because a reviewer suggested a different playing feel - oh, and I sold my Roland heads, ‘as new’ and the guy was very happy with them. I still play with the first pair of sticks I bought, as the rims don’t break them.
Thanks for your interest. You can add 3 additional triggers that you can assign to whatever you’d like. Aux 1, 2, and 3. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Hello There, Couple of questions 1) What is the difference between this module and TD50KV module.Which is powerful 2) TD 50KV has the direct output for all pads/cymbals etc to the house mix and Does TD27 has only 2 direct out? Will it not be a challenge in live shows 3) Can we overlay a sample or patch to have a dual tone. For Example clap & a kick?Can I assign & use this across all the toms & snare?Can I use the patch downloaded from external world? 4) Any different color shells available
Hello, Dillip RC! The primary difference between the TD27 module and the TD50 module is overall number of outputs and the streamlined user interface on the TD27, as compared to the TD50. The TD50 is more tweakable. You can certainly layer sounds on it and load in your own patches. It is not shipping with other colors at this time. Please feel free to contact us with further questions. Thanks for the interest! Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
great review, very tempted to get this of the 503 but one thing i cant see on any reviews that no one talks about is the tension of the drums. can you make the floor tom loose and more natural feeling or does it feel exactly like the snare?
I have the cheap Alesis surge mesh and the heads are "tuneable" which I imagine these are as well so you can reduce the tension easily to mimic proper drums. I've never played electronic before (small space necessity) and they're a lot better than they were 20 years ago.
Now if they can just make them sound like drums (for 5k)! Maybe someone can give Roland engineers a copy of superior drummer 3 so they can see whats possible 😆
I've wondered this too and did some digging. You want the best latency? Roland. You want the best sound? Not roland. So, you could put a $2K pc as a brain and make super high quality samples, but it would be price inhibitive. So, get a roland, use a laptop, an audio interface, and VST. That's the experience and sound you want, but expect it to be price way lower. We all do. Roland is still king of reliability and latency.
@@icaboy i agree they make the best pads/controllers. They have nailed the hi-hat better than anyone and the inovations with the snare and ride are great, that is why it is truly puzzling that they insist on their "plastic" roland sound. I just need them to squeeze superior drummer 3 into that box
5 k will by you real nice accustic drum kit. I've had electronic drums. Always something giving out. Usually the heads or the module itself. If you got money to burn i guess they're ok for practice.
I love my acoustics but I could spend 4K upgrading my studio and buying mics and interfaces and all or just get an eKit for the same and record with SD3 and better recordings and have two kits and play at 2am and not wake my wife. I already own SD3 so instead of upgrading the studio I might go this way. I’m just not sure it’s worth it or if the Alesis will suit my needs. I hate upgrading electronics every 5 years. My acoustics and mics will never need upgrading as long as I live. SD3 while using Amplitube I can record a full band live in the box perfectly mixed almost silent. It’s an expensive decision to make just for a hobby. Especially since my pickup is 18yrs old lol
can you convert these to acoustic drums if you wanted to? Just thought the option would be good to have if you wanted both sets but didn't have the space for both.
Hey, NeverStopLearningMan. Thanks so much for reaching out. The VAD drums aren’t really designed to convert to acoustic drums. They were designed to give you the feeling of playing an acoustic kit. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Personally I like the black better for the rubber coating. I think rubber bronze would just look cheap and weird. Bronze cymbals are bronze, because they're made of bronze. I think there is a silly factor when coloring plastic or rubber to make it look like metal that would downgrade the whole affair. That's just my opinion - but my opinion also happens to be correct.
Hey, James. Thanks so much for your interest. Yes, the TD50 module will work with new pads. It works well. However, there are no settings for the new pads as they are different, so you would have to adjust and customize the response to your playing style. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Honestly, I don't see these being more responsive or sounding any better than my TD-25KV. While I would really like a set sitting in my house I'm not sure what my nearly 6K gets me and how I'm going to justify that with my... uh...bookkeeper. And by the way, I'm not hatin' on these. It's just this is a serious chunk of change and you gotta be practical minded spending it.
How could one reduce the basdrum noise? Installing a soft cloth in front of it? Different beater? The bassdrum noise keeps me from buying. Solve that and I am in.
@@icaboy That was indeed my question at the time. I have owned a td-50k and to be honest I am less in the market right now. Acoustic drums have downsides/limitations and so do e-drums. I have no place to own both.
I bought that kit and I took the snare drum and the module home to work on sounds. I didn’t like any of the snare sounds! Something has to be wrong because they sound nothing like all the reviews I’ve been watching..lol
I’m kind of a heavy hitter in acoustic drums, thinking about getting this kit, can anyone please tell me if the 18” ride cymbal is crashable? Does it have good response? Or is it made specifically for riding only? Thanks in advance
Hey, Diego. Thanks for reaching out. It definitely is. Although you need to get the right sound on the ride first. The cool thing about the digital rides are that they are much more realistic than the old trigger style cymbals. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
In all these electronic drums it's always the non dynamic's of the toms that are always a let down. In this case the kick, snr and cyms are definitely passable.
The only reason I’d use an electronic drum set is in a small setting where acoustic drums are too big, this kit literally defeats the purpose of electronic kits for me lmao
I’ve been able to get my td 17 sounding really good, if you dive into the ambiance settings, the eq settings and add reverb in the multi fx setting you can get some really good tone. Especially if you layer sounds using the sub function.
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Can Sweetwater raise my credit to get this? And have it on 10 year payment plan?🙏🙏🙏
Sweetwater is have to play them personally to give my inputs. I will gladly volunteer to try them😉
Is that the Roland hi hat stand? Love the kit
Aloha Wahoo go away idiot!!!
I have a TD-12 that I love. Does this module have as many features? It doesn't look as advanced as a TD-12. Does it have the "Pole Bend" feature? Could I still assign any sound to any trigger? Like a bass drum on the hihat bell or a tom on a cymbal? These would be a factor in me buying one or not. Thank you.
Whether you like these drums or not (I do :) ) you gotta admit that Nick is one of the best drum set reviewers. I really like his drumming style, enthusiasm, etc. Thanks for the video!
Ended up spending my $6,000 hiring Nick instead of buying the drums.
What people don't like about electric drum samples is not the samples themselves but the lack of microphone bleed, and the play from the room that you're used to hearing. The samples themselves are incredible and Roland knows what they're doing. Especially the new room modeling. You also have to understand where V-Drums come from. Roland was a pioneer of drum machines. Think of the original V-Drum kit as a playable drum machine that has evolved over the years. That concept was revolutionary especially for electronic and hip hop. Suddenly you could play samples in whatever feel you want.
Plus once you start stacking samples you can play in real time, that's where some of the real value lives.
You nailed it, 💯 % true
Whatever you need to tell yourself bro. Lol.
I like that they’ve finally made a kit with the right sizes makes the transition to acoustic drums much easier. Hitting a 6” pad was never like the feel of a 14” floor Tom. I have converted a gretsch Catalina jazz to an e kit with mesh heads, yamaha triggers and gen 16 cymbals. Though I have to say my yamaha is a cheap dtx502 module but the drums actually sound like acoustic drums, whereas this roland kit just sounds like a roland kit. I only use 2 kit sounds on mine, beech custom or jazz bop kit. The cymbals on this sound great though and I’m sure the triggering is spot on for the pads.
Why are all electric drum haters the only ones watching and commenting on an electronic drum video 😂
@Special Agent Krycek Well, we drummers ain't exactly known as being the brightest bulbs in the fixture. And e-drums are a whole different beast.
@Special Agent Krycek You can't be all that bright if you think e-drums suck. QED.
@@gingerbaker1 He never said they sucked, he implied that more drummers prefer real drums than electric ones. I think that's true with every instrument.
Special Agent Krycek yes but it’s a necessity sometimes!!! Acoustic drums are wayyy to loud for my place!!! I know a nice DW goes for $1500 and med tier serum is $2500-3000. But I’d rather pay double or so to play than not too.
I have an Alyssis DM-10 kit I play for fun and relaxation and jamming with my garage band buds. I am not a pro. I don’t gig or record. This is just a hobby to me, but I take it seriously as music is part of my brain exercise regimen (along with photography, building simple robots, and a few others. I am considering moving up to a Roland kit as I have improved a bit since I got the Alyssis kit about five years ago. I have nothing bad to say about electronic drums. Since I have lived in situations not conducive to banging on real acoustic drums, edrums are my only option. But they’re also more convenient to throw in my car to take to one of my musical bud’s house for a jam.
Sweetwate helped me get my Dream Drum set I order Roland 506 today 48 mo. financing and Great Video. Your a fantastic Drummer Nick, I enjoy all you videos
Same I just got mine and got 6 month payment! 🤘🏻
A few weeks ago, I was visiting some friends from college and they introduced me to a drummer friend of theirs who had one of these kits. It may be the most impressive looking, sounding and feeling electronic drum set I've ever come across. The drummer said he went for this kit because he always was interested in electronic drums because of the endless sound options but previously wasn't into buying one because of the smaller sizes, so when this came out he bought this instead of a high end acoustic kit. He loves having a full sized kit to play in his apartment with little noise, and said the ride cymbal and snare are the best electronic pieces he's ever played. He even gigs with it and plugs the module into the band's PA.
This sounds like some kind of Roland shill.
I think its great what Roland is doing. I`ve used their gear for years and none of it is obsolete. If you don`t like their sounds, load your own. They`re phenomenal for recording. Just plug in the USB port and make sure the Midi channels line up with your DAW and you`re ready to roll. Beats the crap out of miking. Super clean and the Midi tracks are fully editable so you can easily fix any mistakes or poor timing of drummers who aren`t quite up to par without tossing out the track. No microphone bleed! I love it.
I've got a small Roland kit and trigger EZDrummer and it sounds great
What kit??? I have the same setup with a Alesis nitro mesh, but I'm looking to upgrade
As a long time V-drummer, I’m surprised these don’t sound much better than the TD-4 I had almost 10 years ago. 🤷🏻
probably a subpar sample library...
@@void870 which is unacceptable for that price.
Dang I feel you, some of the drum sample libraries like addictive drummer, superior drummer, toon tracks, etc... sound good to me but the stock vdrum stuff is lacking for sure.... you spend 3-4K on edrums and then have to pay a couple hundred more for a decent sounding sound kit, bummer all around.
Roland seems to go backwards
Sounds exactly the same as the vdrums I bought back in 1998.
And yet, people spend 10k on wood with one sound. It’s not always practical or useful in a studio or at home like an apartment for example. Great job champ.
Hoping and praying they make different tom sizes in these shells. A 8'' tom would be awesome!
Fantastic drum kit! Excellent demo. Great drummer. And I like the song at the end.
AWESOME VIDEO!!! great module, sound, drums look great, Nick is the man!!!
I've waited 30 years for an e-kit to look and feel like this. Glad I held off buying that 10k TD-20. 😃
Never heard of jobeky or drumtec then?
Pearl started that trend
Nick, awesome walkthrough. Great explanations, really well presented. I want! LOL. Thanks so much for posting.
Well; even tho I’m a bassist; I have to admit; Roland really nailed this set. I would love to get it for my home studio, just to record and learn how to play so I can do my demos. 😌🎶❤️🥁🎹👍🏾
LOL I work here i watched a ddj tutorial one time now im getting this. Love my job at Sweetwater though !
One huge benefit of typical vdrums is the portability. With this kids of kit, that goes out the window.
Hi ... I like the Video very much, well explained. Roland has once again designed something great.
I’ve been itching to get my hands on one of these! 🔥🔥🔥🤘😜
Roands are great in comparison to the other e drum manufacturers. I like the look of the full kit, but it definitely has a niche market. The only reason I ever bought a set of v drums(used) was for, 1) the obvious lack of noise.
2) the space savings.
That's just my 2 cents
A nice touch would be to add some bronze color to the rubber cymbal pads.
yeah that would be SICK
Looks and sounds great. I think this is the one!
As TD-20 owner I like the simplified module this kit has
I have been using Roland products for 45 years. Drum machines, synth keyboards, modules, samplers, multitrack recorders and electronic drums. The truth is, Roland needs to come down off his high horse. This price range is for working professionals making bucks were five grand is nothing to drop. Let's get real and make these kits priced for the everyday drumming man...
Great review as always but lost me at 5:00 - Roland still doing a fantastic machine gun impression running the toms - I’m sure I’ll be getting a Roland kit of some form in the future to replace my Simmons gear but it will be triggering some outboard samples Whatever Nick played they sounded dead and limited in range
i feel like this offers a lot of options. honestly not as disappointed as i thought i was going to be i like the diversity I dont have hardly any experience in the other high end rolands but seeing the walk through on tuning options for wood/ build material type you could have multiple sets in one theres definitely a lot of pros and cons but i think this certainly offers a lot of conveniences
Lechz 🤩 thanks for the great video
Thats an incredible drumset..
Keep in mind your cellphone speakers don't do the actual sounds any justice and you can tune the drums to sound however you want.
Thank you jeez everyone talking shit about electric drums and they have no idea what they really sound like
WoW!!! I going to get one!!. Your video helped me so much...
Thumbs up! This is an awesome drums...nice demo
12:11 Priceless
Cymbals sound pretty convincing, and the toms ain't bad. Snare sounds a bit too perfect as is typical of electronic kits. I'd like to hear a big, bright, ringy snare sound, though I'm sure you could achieve that by messing around with the settings. Who else is here because SARS-CoV-2 makes you wish you hadn't traded in your electronic drums for acoustic ones?
Love these drums! I bought mine from sweetwater few months ago and they’re a total game changer! I’m pretty new to e drums and the only problem I’m running into is for cymbal swells. It sounds like I’m rolling on the bow vs swelling on the edge. Anybody have any tips or tricks?
At almost 5k, that's really not for everyone.
Go Mezant buy at Sweetwater it is..m getting a TD50k $5000 it’s $100 monthly for $48 months!!!
@@minisurfbanana That's hardly a sweet deal
Hungry Bamba why not? It is only $100 a month better than Shelling out $5000 at one pop!!!
Chism sure it is if u use your credit card thats 48 payments ' ur interest would be over $2000!!! A lot of savings to me!!!
@@minisurfbanana There is no interest on the Sweetwater deals.
Awesome kit!!!!!!
Kick ass song though I’ll tell you that!
I love um , bit I can't afford that kit 😔
Nice video. Perfect kit on a lockdown
we need this press release...and so does Roland... "Roland's upcoming new v drum flagship the all new DD-77 will have all digital pads and cymbals with vst and bluetooth. Release Date: Winter Namm 2021" dream on..........................
Dress them up however you like, they still sound electronic, and they feel electronic.
For $8k you should be able to put acoustic drumheads on this. The fact that you can't is staggering.
I wish you guys at Sweetwater would do a demonstration to show how much of a difference switching to electronic drums in a small Church environment can have on a congregations perspective. Do a room comparison without a drum Shield with a drum Shield and with electronic drums. It's so hard to convince a drummer of how valuable this tool is with very minimal sacrifice with today's electronic drum sets.
Audience will likely hear a lot more nuance and better sound from the e-drums, because the e-drums sounds come through speakers. Acoustic drums, unmiked, are radiant point sources, and much of that sound never gets to the audience, it just muddies up everything as it reverberates through the room.
You'll never reproduce the sonic vibrations of real drums and cymbals that strike people and move them deeply. E-Drums fall flat every time.
Love it! 🙂❤
idk why i watch the sound demos, i’m just gonna use the same slate samples i’ve used for years anyways
So........I'm a drummer of sorts but have set up a small studio to primarily write but also to record other musicians........I have been tossing up between getting an acoustic kit with some good mics or a Roland E kit.......If I am honest with myself, I don't think I could get as good a sound with the acoustic option when also taking the recording space into consideration.......I could also use the E kit to trigger Superior drummer samples.......Really stuck at the moment to be honest
I'd buy 2 kits and have a massive double bass kit 😆😆
They sell it in that co figuration at guitar center. It's like $1k more.
what now in the beginning of 2024... is the VAD506 still relevant or what is worth investing in? found a guy wanting to sell me this 506 drum kit for a bit over 3000 dollars... it looks amazing.. but so much is happening on the drum stage.. like the Evans Sensory Hybrid System.. what to look into now in the new 24?
thanks for sharing this with us!
Nic is awesome!
How many line output so i can assign individual line output to the mixer...
How you doin,' everybody? Andrew Jacob here, and I need to replace my loud-ass oak drums with these drums. Why? 'Cause lockdown. 'Cause I'm a basement musician with a family and always will be. 'Cause ROLAND VAD506.
Super
for this price a touchscreen module would have been nice
Somebody get Thomas Lang! He'd put 2 dozen of these v drums together and melt faces.
"These drums are incredible. Let me give you mortals a small demonstration" I'm certain theres a hole in the atmosphere caused by thomas lang playing a cow bell with a bass drum pedal.
Love the look of the drums, hate the sound. Would definitely use these with ezd2 or sd3
I have an almost 8 year old who fell in love with this kit in store last week. She's just beginning and I want to get her something that will work for her long term as well as (selfishly) for myself and my older kids who play. Are these at all adjustable for a smaller size player?
Hello, emjwoods! An 8-year-old is almost to the age where they are ready for a full-sized drum kit. Growth spurts seemingly happen overnight and getting a full-sized kit early on will help with developing proper technique. These kits also have plenty of adjustment points, allowing you to keep everything within her reach.
Thanks for the interest!
Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
I don't know man, one of the advantages of electronic drums is the fact that they're easily portable and take less space. This model throws that out of the window, so I guess it's made to be used on shows so that audience think it's an acoustic kit? or the band wants the drums to be really quiet in a small venue? I'm just struggling to figure out who is this kit for.
I assume also that it feels much better since you'll have a shell thus rebound and feel will be much closer to an acoustic vs the pads
I agree! It's for people who are ashamed of the form factor of e-drums. What I want is the Roland George Jetson kit. A suitcase that unfolds with all pads already on arms and the suitcase is the drum rack. Carry your thirty-pound kit in one hand.
On the other hand, you gotta carry a full PA with you along just for the e-drums, so there is that.
It's for dupes with too much money and an incredible ability to justify purchases. Just look at the top comments on this video..
I have the TD17 and TD11 kits combined to form one big kit but I absolutely love the features you showed in the TD27 module. I love my Roland drums but I do not like the combined cable connection. Does the TD27 have separate pad connections like the TD50 or is it combined? Great video. If I ever get the money this will be my next kit for sure.
I have bought TD-50 KV and I wonder what is the quality differens between td 50 and this VAD kit? The TD is still more expensive? 🥁🎶🎧
I'm wondering what the drums would sound like if you put acoustic heads on it
I wonder why you would put an acoustic head on this drum if you could just buy acoustic drums for 1/4 of the price?
@@CDL_ESQ ruclips.net/video/nDHY570ZJLs/видео.html
If you are interested. It is fun just to mess around and try new things.
Nice
How much noise will the neighbours be hearing ? Practice pad levels?
I'm with you, I would have loved to hear this kit with "no sound". I am very curious how loud they are.
In that this kit has all mesh heads, it is quite a bit quieter than electronic drum kits with rubber pads. I'd equate it to about 10% of the overall volume of an acoustic drum kit.
Thanks for the interest!
Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
Sweetwater thanks for info 👍
Loudest things on my TD-17 kit are the hi-hat, cymbals, and kick pad (hi-hat especially; it's a constant "thwack thwack thwack"). I wonder if these cymbals are quieter because they're softer and thinner?
Are you able to purchase more toms for a bigger set and another floor tom? Thank you!
Hi, thanks for your interest! Yes - the TD-50X module included with the VAD506 kit features 14 trigger inputs, so you can potentially add up to 5 more pads in addition to the 9 that come with the kit. You can use any Roland V-Drum pads for this purpose, but they do offer VAD pads that would match the rest of the kit.
Feel free to contact me directly with any further questions, and thanks again!
Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
what's the link to the driver to record on pro tools
Amazing, after all these years the toms still sound artificial. The rest of the kit is passable though
I'm using drum plug-in on my PC, it's like 10 years old and it has better toms than this module.
@@suheru Nonsense. Sounds are great. Massively tweakable. These are not made to sound like how acoustic drums sound when you are the drummer sitting at the kit. Because the audience NEVER hears that. Roland makes their kits and their presets to sound good cutting through a live band. They are actually not idiots.
@@gingerbaker1 Bullshit. It sounds bad because their drum modules only have as much processing power as a 20 year old computer, and they can't handle real high quality samples.
With any laptop and $100-$400 worth of software you can get far better sounds and more flexibility than the drum module on this offers.
@@gingerbaker1 you're so full of shit. Even The striker pro module from Alesis destroys the Roland one.
I think Roland are being very deceptive with their advertising of the TD27 module!!
They say it has kits off the TD50 module, which makes you think it's the same sound quality!!
Clearly it isn't. I don't think it's terrible though!!
When you watch Nick make his own user kit, it sounds really nice!!
What drum manuf are sampled.
Wonder if you can just buy the shell kit
How many additional drums and cymbals and so forth can you add (open channels)? A second floor tom? another crash cymbal? Cowbell? A gong would be cool.
Hey, Ben. Thanks so much for your interest. You have room for 3 additional triggers. You can assign them to be what you’d like.
I hope this helps.
Jason Thiele, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Sweetwater I meant why arent the cymbal pads brass colored instead of black?
What is that last backing track
For some reason I can never find this I want one but it only says reserve and not add to cart does that mean that they’re going low?
Hi Nick. Great demo, particularly showing how a small change in a parameter can effect the whole sound. I get fed up with the gripes of the acoustic drummers. Complaining about price? Serious acoustic drummers may spend up to $5000 just on a snare, and over $1000 on a cymbal!! Only to have the whole sound lost by poor FOH. In fact, a drummer who plays Tama and is sponsored by them, borrowed my TD 20 for a recording session because he was fed up with what mix engineers did to his sound, and just fed them the 8 direct outs to get a balance that suited the mix. Yes, I would like a few more kick and snare sounds, but at least I can change them. Buy a ‘real’ snare or cymbal and you are stuck with it. Roland over priced. Just as in cars, you pay for quality. I have my 15 year old TD20 Exp that has never hit a beat wrong (apart from my poor playing). Nothing has failed. I only changed the heads a couple of months ago, because a reviewer suggested a different playing feel - oh, and I sold my Roland heads, ‘as new’ and the guy was very happy with them. I still play with the first pair of sticks I bought, as the rims don’t break them.
Oh, and I really like your personal USER KIT. Will borrow those settings if I ever cross-grade to a VAD506.
I’ll never be able to afford that 😳
And compared to Pearl Merge? What's your opinion?🎼🥁🎧
Hi nick how many toms and cymbals ad ons can you put on the module.
Thanks for your interest. You can add 3 additional triggers that you can assign to whatever you’d like. Aux 1, 2, and 3.
I hope this helps.
Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
I still like my TD6 for the $. Sounds almost as good as this just not fancy bells and whistles. Only costs $300
Many will have access if they stretch the price a bit to more affordable range. In addition, foreign taxes and freights fee will be big problem here.
Hello There, Couple of questions
1) What is the difference between this module and TD50KV module.Which is powerful
2) TD 50KV has the direct output for all pads/cymbals etc to the house mix and Does TD27 has only 2 direct out? Will it not be a challenge in live shows
3) Can we overlay a sample or patch to have a dual tone. For Example clap & a kick?Can I assign & use this across all the toms & snare?Can I use the patch downloaded from external world?
4) Any different color shells available
Hello, Dillip RC! The primary difference between the TD27 module and the TD50 module is overall number of outputs and the streamlined user interface on the TD27, as compared to the TD50. The TD50 is more tweakable. You can certainly layer sounds on it and load in your own patches. It is not shipping with other colors at this time.
Please feel free to contact us with further questions.
Thanks for the interest!
Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
Just got this but struggling to get the right setting can someone give me their settings please
great review, very tempted to get this of the 503 but one thing i cant see on any reviews that no one talks about is the tension of the drums. can you make the floor tom loose and more natural feeling or does it feel exactly like the snare?
I have the cheap Alesis surge mesh and the heads are "tuneable" which I imagine these are as well so you can reduce the tension easily to mimic proper drums. I've never played electronic before (small space necessity) and they're a lot better than they were 20 years ago.
You can loose the tension a bit but too loose and you will get triggering problems
You can do all this with the TD 17 as well lol
Now if they can just make them sound like drums (for 5k)! Maybe someone can give Roland engineers a copy of superior drummer 3 so they can see whats possible 😆
The sounds don't matter. It's all about triggers and quality.
I've wondered this too and did some digging.
You want the best latency? Roland.
You want the best sound? Not roland.
So, you could put a $2K pc as a brain and make super high quality samples, but it would be price inhibitive.
So, get a roland, use a laptop, an audio interface, and VST. That's the experience and sound you want, but expect it to be price way lower. We all do.
Roland is still king of reliability and latency.
@@icaboy i agree they make the best pads/controllers. They have nailed the hi-hat better than anyone and the inovations with the snare and ride are great, that is why it is truly puzzling that they insist on their "plastic" roland sound. I just need them to squeeze superior drummer 3 into that box
5 k will by you real nice accustic drum kit. I've had electronic drums. Always something giving out. Usually the heads or the module itself. If you got money to burn i guess they're ok for practice.
I'd always buy acoustic over electric, but I can't because of where I live. so electric kits that look and play like acoustic kits appeal to me
I love my acoustics but I could spend 4K upgrading my studio and buying mics and interfaces and all or just get an eKit for the same and record with SD3 and better recordings and have two kits and play at 2am and not wake my wife. I already own SD3 so instead of upgrading the studio I might go this way. I’m just not sure it’s worth it or if the Alesis will suit my needs. I hate upgrading electronics every 5 years. My acoustics and mics will never need upgrading as long as I live. SD3 while using Amplitube I can record a full band live in the box perfectly mixed almost silent. It’s an expensive decision to make just for a hobby. Especially since my pickup is 18yrs old lol
can you convert these to acoustic drums if you wanted to? Just thought the option would be good to have if you wanted both sets but didn't have the space for both.
Hey, NeverStopLearningMan. Thanks so much for reaching out. The VAD drums aren’t really designed to convert to acoustic drums. They were designed to give you the feeling of playing an acoustic kit.
I hope this helps.
Jason Thiele, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
If looks are so important, why aren’t the cymbal triggers bronze-colored?
That would be a nice touch 👌 suppose you could spray them yourself 😆😆
Because colored cymbals wear off. Roland has settled on a neutral black because it lasts much longer. They're rubber.
@Freeze Can’t they add coloring to the liquid rubber before they turn it into a controller pad?
@@BenDover-wm7wf well they haven't figured it out yet. Ask Roland.
Personally I like the black better for the rubber coating. I think rubber bronze would just look cheap and weird. Bronze cymbals are bronze, because they're made of bronze. I think there is a silly factor when coloring plastic or rubber to make it look like metal that would downgrade the whole affair. That's just my opinion - but my opinion also happens to be correct.
Need to know if they will work with the TD- 50 controller?
Hey, James. Thanks so much for your interest. Yes, the TD50 module will work with new pads. It works well. However, there are no settings for the new pads as they are different, so you would have to adjust and customize the response to your playing style.
I hope this helps.
Jason Thiele, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Oh boy I wish I could afford this.. 💵💵💵💸💸💸
How much louder to these compare with for example the TD-50 pads?
@Jeff myrick How do you know? Have you tried it?
Honestly, I don't see these being more responsive or sounding any better than my TD-25KV. While I would really like a set sitting in my house I'm not sure what my nearly 6K gets me and how I'm going to justify that with my... uh...bookkeeper. And by the way, I'm not hatin' on these. It's just this is a serious chunk of change and you gotta be practical minded spending it.
Can somebody tell me what that first song was?
I wonder how much editing they had to do for this video
Probably cost a fortune tho
$4800
@@BenChambless Shut the front door. 🚪🚪🚪🚪
But I guess touring drummers would use this, maybe.
Ben Chambless there’s goes buying one 😂🤣 thought it would be $2-3k but $4800! Out of reach...
@@minisurfbanana if you have 3 k tu put in e drums you can do wonders . no need to buy this overpriced roland set
@@minisurfbanana buy an alesis strike pro se for 2400..sounds better
That's Anthony and his daughter Lucia's drum set after Emma's departure from The Wiggles at the end of 2021.
How could one reduce the basdrum noise? Installing a soft cloth in front of it? Different beater? The bassdrum noise keeps me from buying. Solve that and I am in.
The actual sound of hitting it without it powered up sound? Like the mallet hitting the rubber pad?
@@icaboy That was indeed my question at the time. I have owned a td-50k and to be honest I am less in the market right now. Acoustic drums have downsides/limitations and so do e-drums. I have no place to own both.
Do an atv adrum
I bought that kit and I took the snare drum and the module home to work on sounds. I didn’t like any of the snare sounds! Something has to be wrong because they sound nothing like all the reviews I’ve been watching..lol
I’m kind of a heavy hitter in acoustic drums, thinking about getting this kit, can anyone please tell me if the 18” ride cymbal is crashable? Does it have good response? Or is it made specifically for riding only? Thanks in advance
Hey, Diego. Thanks for reaching out. It definitely is. Although you need to get the right sound on the ride first. The cool thing about the digital rides are that they are much more realistic than the old trigger style cymbals.
I hope this helps.
Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Believe me Digital 14" Snare, 18" Cymbal and 14" High Hit are much better.
In all these electronic drums it's always the non dynamic's of the toms that are always a let down. In this case the kick, snr and cyms are definitely passable.
Good enough for an 80's song
The only reason I’d use an electronic drum set is in a small setting where acoustic drums are too big, this kit literally defeats the purpose of electronic kits for me lmao
@@BukanIbuMu At $5,000 I would expect a lot more.
Couldn't agree more. I always hate the toms on these electric kits.
I’ve been able to get my td 17 sounding really good, if you dive into the ambiance settings, the eq settings and add reverb in the multi fx setting you can get some really good tone. Especially if you layer sounds using the sub function.
I watch for nicks drumming faces