Roland VAD507 Vs TD-27KV2
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- Is the Roland VAD507 worth that extra $1900 over TD-27KV2? That’s the topic of todays video!
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Justin, It frustrates me that Roland has not thanked you with a nice Roland kit. I mean VAD top of the line TD-50. I personally have spent about 5k on Roland gear maybe more. (We are not going add that up. I don't wanna know.) I was an Alesis guy unit finding this channel about 5 / 6 years ago. I only obtaining all this Roland gear because of you. I just went and got the VAD Toms 14", 12" and 10". Another cool 1600 dollars. Come on Roland set this guy up! He has made you how many thousands of dollars? It's just amazing seeing you with the old TD-30 still on other video.
He probably wouldn't accept it... If viewers knew he was being set up by any particular brand it would bring into question the authenticity of his reviews. I would be very surprised if he hasn't been approached by all of the big brands with sponsorship deals.
@@Thrandweel Yeah I am sure you are right. But man he sells drums for all these brands.
What snare stand would you recommend? Good quality and value?
He gets compensated through RUclips. His niche is doing drum kit reviews, so he attracts all the demographics who go on RUclips to look for that and in return he makes money through RUclips ads.
Roland had never sponsored any artist now.
Since they don’t need to.
After not playing for nearly 50 years I bought an Alesis Command X to see if I could get back into playing. I was surprised with how fast my skills came back and how much fun playing again was.
After a year of playing on average 3 to 4 hours/week the Alesis started falling apart so I was faced with either replacing some pads or moving on.
I've known about the Roland brand for years and thought the VAD's were interesting. Wife said "you only live once and you're not getting any younger so just do it" and I did. I bought the VAD-507 and wow, the difference is beyond what I expected. The VAD's play like a real drum set and the fun factor is off the charts for me. As Justin mentioned being able to position the drums where you want makes a big difference and hitting full size heads just feels so natural. The digital snare, hi-hat and ride feel like playing an acoustic snare and cymbals. The sounds in the module along with the editing and tuning took some time for me to figure out but I can now tailor the sounds for whatever I want for any type of music. The quality of the Roland drums is a real bonus and I paired DW 3000 series hi-hat, snare and double kick with the set.
They put a big smile on this old drummer dude's face every time he plays them.
I recently purchased the VAD 504. I like really like the flexibility of positioning the various parts of the kit and the pad sizes. I used to have the TD17 KVX. The 504 looks really nice but is definitely heavier and bulkier. If I had the ability for a do-over, I’d definitely buy it again. I find it so comfortable to play.
I mostly know most of this info, and not in the market for buying one of those kit ( already playing on the efnote5) but I just love to watch every new vid from 65drums! Tnx J!
Thanks! My Go-To for keeping up to date on the latest!
Thank you so much!
Nice playing.
I like those intros and endings of your videos.
Justin, your skills have improved, immensely! Well done!
Great review (again), Justin!
Thanks so much bro for this review and will check out the drugstore in this video
exactly this review I needed. thank you!❤
Sweet!
Great comparison video Justin!!👍😀
Love the new studio Justin! Great video as always. Wishing you good luck on building your following
Thanks Charlie :)
Been waiting for this nice
Thanks for watching :)
I have the td27kv2 and love it with a different layout ie. ride between high and low tom and mounting the mid tom to the left of the high hat as a 2nd snare. I do find the kick roams at times but ended up using some rubber matting underneath to anchor it to and soften the sound - also changing the bass beater to something softer with a patch is a great way to reduce noise.
Sold. Saving up for TD-27KV2.
Great comparison! I probably won't ever own a kit at this level due to just being a hobbyist, but it's cool to learn more about them.
I have the 507 for live gigs and I absolutely love it!!
Hi Justin, love your videos i was wondering if you could make a video of pairing the roland td17 and the yamaha dtx pro sound modules with the nux dm8 and which module sounds the best. And the best way to mount the on the drum kit. This will be a very helpful video for me thanks
I have an acoustic and a Roland kit so I fully appreciate the qualities of look and playability of both shown here. If I was replacing the e-kit then I’d go for the cheaper option but if I had only one kit for both jobs of practice and live gigs, the VAD would ace it.
that's a good point
💯agree!!!
I'm a beginner player with about 20 hours on an acoustic kit. A couple days ago I picked up a td-17kvx2. I'm struggling to get used to it. The pads seem very bouncey. Do find it hard to switch between kits. I'm thinking I'll need to setup my acoustic kit again so I don't forget how that feels. I bought the ekit because sometimes I practice late at night and I underestimated how loud it is.
I got the TD-27KV2 and added a PD-120L 12” floor tom, a 16-inch crash, a BT-1 bar trigger.
But what REALLY changed the feel: (2) 36” chrome Gibraltar curved bars for the center horizontals & (2) 30” for the left and right horizontal. $100 in chrome bars and a 12” tom made the kit feel MUCH bigger.
The horizontal bars it comes with are 22” and make the kit feel small. Swapping those out it feels like a flagship model.
Awesome reviews, thank you!
Ive been considering buying a TD-27 KV2, but also getting half shell depth Jobeky kit (toms and kick). Use the Jobeky for gigs and rehearsing and use the KV2 for home.
Justin thanks much for your informative videos. I’m new to the Roland world and recently purchased a TD25 kit. I would like to record multitrack recordings with the module but I have not found any videos to see if can be done with the TD25 module. Can you let me know if it can be done and if so where do I go for help on how to do it. Thanks.
Hi Justin! Do you think the TD27KV2 hotspots more on the toms than the VAD507? My biggest concern is that it would hotspot. But since they introduced positional sensing on the toms as well, maybe they managed to eliminate that by noticing when you hit it dead center (and lowering the velocity curve of that particular hit by some) Whereas the VAD series use a 3 trigger design along the edges, like ATV for instance, so it must be less "hotspotty." What do you think?
How did it feel it hotspot-wise?
Thanks for the vid, Justin...these are two of the top contenders for my upcoming e-drum purchase. Anyone have opinions re replacement rack/floor toms on the TD-27KV2? I want a 2U2D config, and I'm contemplating: PDA100L/120L, vs ATV xD-P10M/P13M, vs Ef-Note EFD-T10P/T12P. Any firsthand opinions/insights are welcome re best triggering, feel, etc. Thanks.
intro drum fill sounded like the beginning to Skin O My Teeth from Megadeth lol
Pretty dang close now that you say that lol
I have a VAD 506. I bought it mainly because I wanted to be able to go from an ekit to an acoustic kit without issue and its worked for me, plus the look (because monkey brain) makes me feel like im on a "real" kit.
I bought a Donner 200 kit just for practice and space. What would be a better module for this kit? Also I heard there is a new pro version with a new module. Maybe a video on this. I use to own a TD20 kit a few years ago. Wish I had kept it !
Ok, I am struggling here. I own the TD-27KV2. Do you guys think that the VAD series Toms are a better choice than the PD-128? Obviously the size is a big difference. But I am talking about playability and general feel. Does the VAD trigger system make that much of a difference over the older PD-128.
I have a TD27KV2 and the only thing I hate is the kick and the rack. I am all about the freedom to move things where I want for comfort. The kick moves here and there and is starting to piss me off. I have plans to change these out over time. I am fine with everything else.
I too own the TD27 and had to purchase a kickblock (velcro) to your drum mat, to stop the kick from moving during live shows...It was a cheap solution and did the trick. I agree the rack is not the best, tends to bend and move some from relocating the kit from the house to shows and back.
Q. are you going to be covering the new Yamaha FGDP 50 finger drumming kit from yamaha?
how to choose between td27kv2 and Efnote 5x
Hi Friends 👋 Since Roland has a module for nearly every number from 1 to 50 , td 1 - td 50, are there any Roland drums from the number 40 - 49? If so what are they ,if not why have these numbers been skipped? I love Your content. Happy jammin 🎶
Got a vad 507 at home, it's great
Wow that very first kit sounded almost as good as my mimic pro!
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What do you think about Millenium MPS 1000? I want a kit that has pad sizes close to acoustic ones and this is the only acoustic-like kit that fits my budget.
Hey! Is there a way to monitor a Logic drum set VST by using an Alesis drum amp instead of monitoring what I'm playing through headphones? That would be cool if that's possible! I just want to be able to hear the VST sounds in the room using the amp instead of the module sounds of the Alesis kit. Thanks a lot! :)
Hi Justin
Is it okay to put the bass drum protection or it'll affect the sensor?
That's great, thanks Justin🙂. I've started thinking of upgrading from my TD-17KVX. It's fantastic (and better than I'll ever get), but after a hell of a lot of use by me and my son's bands, bits are falling apart - cymbals have had several superglueing sessions already! I'm not a great fan of the VH-10 hi hat; I'm on the second one and that's on the way out. To me, the mechanism (top cymbal and a plastic tube for bottom) just looks delicate. The VH-14D double cymbal HH on the TD-27KV2 looks sturdier (and better). And it's 'digital' (I've not played one but sounds like it means it will have sound variation across the surface), as is the snare and ride. The upgraded module sounds like a big plus over the TD-17. I'd like to be able to add more cymbals and the TD17 is maxed out; the TD27 will allow me to add another 3 or 4 bits if/as I should like in future.
I'd been coming to the conclusion that the VAD series put more focus on looks and wow factor, vs the TD series having that money spent on the tech/tools, and I'd heading toward the TD series as a result (though I'd been comparing to the VAD504 rather than the VAD507). The big kick drum on VADs actually looked like a down side to me (possible extra noise - mostly I play on headphones) and size (small room). These aspects are confirmed by you.
I could replace the bits that are on the way out on the TD-17 - but then I'd also want to add some stuff (and that's limited - no more input slots), and after a Excel spreadsheeting the shit out of the various models, I see that new, complete kits have a 32-39% 'saving' (in a sense) over buying the individual components. For the projected cost I'd be heading toward to repair and beef up my TD17, I'd be better off buying a complete new TD-17 and offsetting the extra cost by breaking and selling the decent bits of the old kit!
I think I've convinced myself the TD-27KV2 is the clear winner - for me.
Now - I just have to convince my wife! Any tips... anyone? I can't play the 'mental health' card - any goodness drumming does me is negated by the damage it does to the rest of the family! 😄🥁
You asked for tips so here's my take on it. I play Edrums due to their sound quality over acoustics AND portability. I would never even think of buying a VAD due to the sheer size and weight. It's a no brainer to me - get the KV.
Can you do a review on the new Simmons titan 70?
ALMOST FIRST DAM LOVE YA MAN
Thanks dude!
"Look, we have monkey brains" Love it!! Great video, so organized, easy to follow and straight to the point!
Justin
Need your help. I do mostly recording with online musicians and practice. I'm looking into either Roland td27kv2, Roland VAD 307, or Yamaha DTX8K XBF
Two around the same price the other Roland $600 more but better hi hat.
Not a tech guy by any means but just like things simple and get the job done. My first Roland kit was a PD8 I think.
Give some direction if you can.
Thanks I enjoy your channel!
Wow you are the best
You have great hands!
Thanks man! I'm trying to get to a point where I have speed and accuracy. It's tough
It's a tiny thing, but I love the googly eyes on the shared drum components.
👀
How much would it cost to get 3 toms, a kick drum and stands to upgrade the td-27?
I want my electronic drum set to look like an electronic set. I feel Justin prefers the traditional look.
ugh, i have a td27/50 for 5 digital pads i use and the stock sounds are total crap for the stuff i wanna play....thank god for sd3. any news on a td50 successor???
building a hybrid kit… can i use my scarlet 18i20 and mac soundwise
Remember to down the road you can always up grade your modules ☺️
I wouldn't say the VAD form factors are only about looks for public performances. The sizing, the setup and general sense of the kit feels so much more immersive than the TDs with the pancake shells. This makes playing more enjoyable and easier to progress. Plus for beginners, having larger pads makes learning complicated things or things played fast, easier as you are less likely to miss the pad or hit the rims and the spacing is more analogous to acoustic drums so for muscle memory, it's easier to move between them. I only use it at home and don't regret getting the VAD507 over the KV2
Hey Justin,
Give me your choice on drum software, especially considering using it in a studio.
P.S. Have you tried Addictive Drums?
Thanks Bud !
I haven’t tried addictive drums yet, but I like my copy of EZdrummer 3 and Superior Drummer 3 a lot
One of the things I liked about edrums is the portability. With the VAD series you lose that, and playing in a cover band, most venues don't have the space for a big kit.
I have the 506 and bought the VH11 so it's essentially a 507. I also bought an extra floor tom. I added a jobbeky china and splash and cowbell to round out the kit. I love it and am set for a long long time. If I get sick of the sounds or want to expand I have ez drummer 3 and ssd 5.5 (both Black Friday deals I got really cheap). Every once in a while I do wish the kick drum was a little bit smaller but other than that, it's perfect.
Does td27 module have the same 'practise mode' as the td17?
Got to be honest... I don't understand e-kits that look like acoustics. Maybe it's because I have an e-kit to practice on where noise is more of an issue, so the VAD series being louder is the opposite of what I need.
Also, quite like the obviously NOT acoustic styling of the pads. People are always fascinated by them .
I would like bigger floor toms though - greater diameter. And the capability to add a few different sized cymbals but I'm being picky. Despite the price of the TD27 (plus all the extras), my acoustic kit is the *real* one in my eyes, and the one I love most.
I like the VAD except for that over complicated bass drum. Just think Roland can do better.
Yeah they were thinking way too hard when designing that thing. 2 or 3ply mesh with dampening is quieter, and feels better, AND is cheaper to make at the same time
While I agree that this comparison is a more level field, but, when people are shopping for something at this price, it's generally it's dictated by budget. I would say in most cases people aren't deciding between 2 kits $2000 apart. It's going to be X amount of dollars and finding something close, not jumping up 2K. That said I wish they didn't cost as much as a used car.
Yeah it sucks. Been that way for decades
Is there a way to use an android tablet as a drum module?
if i didnt upgrade my pdx8 pads (dreadful they are) for pdx100 some years ago i would probably go for the vPDA 100 series to get different sizes on toms and floor tom as the digital snare looks comically big compared to 10 inch toms and floor tom. Also i wish roland would made a 12 inch digital snare, it would be perfect.
Yeah, a 12 inch digital snare sounds good to me.
I expect the next big leap will be digital toms. That may offer some smaller sizes that could allow a 12'' snare.
edrumcenter would be great if they actually had inventory.
after not having an acoustic kit for years due to sound issues, I've finally got one! I used to want the ekit that most accurately simulated an acoustic kit, but now that I have an acoustic kit, I feel like the more robotic the ekit = the better, because it inspires me to use the different sounds and try something different. Not saying ekits shouldn't be like acoustic kits, they served their place in my life for many years
That's what I like about edrums, the fact there are no rules. It's like a keyboard, they can make whatever sound you need that day.
I heard on another channel that Roland toms don’t actually have positional sensing on the heads, only the rims. That the feeling of positional sensing is due to the center cone on the pdx-100 and equivalent pads. Is that not actually the case?
@@Ed-iw7ls did you ever notice that the pda-100l and the pda-120l have positional sensing on the Tom’s with Superior Drummer 3? Not sure how they pulled that off, given the side triggers and Roland saying it’s not possible.
@@Ed-iw7ls no, I mean the heads, as well as the rims. I am getting positional sensing on the tom heads of the pda-100l and the pda-120l. Using the superior drummer 3 core library. Im using a td-27 module with the td-50x preset (for the VH-14d functionality) . Im getting distinct positional sensing on all all of my toms. Not sure how they pulled that off, given the side mounted triggers.
Love Roland drums, but I just still hate their base drums. How can you just stick a kick pad in a bass drum casing...
I hate it too. I just did an a to e conversion and the bass drum with a full size mesh head feels great. They should have went for something similar.
Roland needs to get its collective heads out of the clouds. A $1900 difference between the two is crazy. The KV2 should cost $1900. You can get an amazing laptop and all the software you need to record professionally for that $$.
Damn almost 6k for a electric drum?? Im good on my dtx just to learn the beats at night practice then apply it on my accoustic at daytime 😁 but good video tho
What's your kit setup for live gig's or do you just play at home?
I just practice with eDrums at home, and for recording. When I play live, it’s acoustic drums or hand percussion for smaller rooms
@@65Drums That makes sense why you are still on the TD-30. Cheers Justin.
who is the manufacturer of that orange/brown drum throne? Tama?
no it's some other small company that uses real leather. I cant remember the name but it's sold on edrumcenter.com
those falling cartoon drums really make me crack up, haha
Glad someone appreciates it lol, that took awhile
@@65Drums haha
Only $1900 price difference? Might as well as play accoustic set for price of VAD-507. Prefer lower cost!
I’d take the VAD307>>>the TD27 tbh
Please recommend edrums for church 1000 to 5000 dollars
TD27 is just under 5K Cdn
Bro that's a very large price range. But for venues, stick with a Japanese brand. Right now I'm liking Roland and EFNOTE.
I tried 306….it suck for the price! Bad tone and looks! The kick drum looks cheap…..
Anyone willing to give me 4000 USD?
That td27kv2 is extremely tempting…
I've just bought the td27kv2 for £2333 from Thomann. Have a look there 👍
E drums give you monkey brain 🧠 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 epic.
Who can afford these lol
They exist believe it or not
So I jus bought a 2nd kd200 bass drum for double bass and can’t not for the life of me get them to sound the same my new left kick dnt sound the same like original. Any tips brotha. Got an Instagram by chance maybe I can send you a quick video