Roland TD17KVX Review
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- The Roland TD17KVX surprised many in the industry when it first came out. But now that the dust has settled, is it really worth buying?
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Pros:
Durabile drum pads
Sound editing
Bluetooth
Sounds are a HUGE step up from the td11
Best highhat anywhere near this price range
It’s just a FUN drumset to play
Cons:
Sounds are a huge step up. But STILL not as good as the Strike
Toms are small and have a double rim with proprietary rims
Front of drum rack is really narrow
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Hey Justin, just wanted to thank you for your great channel. Been interested in drumming since forever, but never had the opportunity (...money) or time to focus on doing it. Starting in at 49, so I don't expect to get anywhere near as good as if I had started younger, but if nothing else I have a fun new hobby. Had been looking for an e-drum set that I could grow with. Made my purchase of the TD-17KVX early January, primarily after viewing your "First Impressions" video (and after a bit of other research as well).
Love this drum set! I had made the mistake to purchase a cheap "Rock band" level type of e-drum kit years ago, and the triggering on the cymbals was just terrible. This set is amazing in comparison (and it should be for $1800). Love the expansion capabilities, being able to load new sounds, the sounds that are built in, the overall feel of the kit is just so much better than a sub $500 kit. Now I just have to keep practicing - and with this kit I feel like I have a "real" drum set to grow into at least.
Thanks again for the detailed and informative reviews - super helpful.
Iain MacNeill I’m happy to hear about someone in exactly the same boat I’m in. At 46 I’ve been meaning to start drumming also and this channel as well as the many constructive comments found in this community have helped me make a similar decision. Best of luck to you.
I'm the same age and am about to pick one up tomorrow. We don't learn as fast as younger people, but wisdom and dedication should make up for it a little. I'm going to try Drumeo and work through all their lessons. How has your drumming journey been?
Just started,... 52! Fun, fun, fun,.....
I’ll keep adding to the fun here. Started at 63 a few months ago! Something I’ve always wanted to do and it’s a great retirement hobby. With any luck I’ll be trading in my “starter kit” and buying the TD-17KVX tomorrow. Thanks for all the great information, Justin!
Ive been playing drums for 40 years and electronic drums for 25. Ive owned kits from several manufacturers, but Roland somehow manages to stay ahead of the game. However the gap has narrowed a bit in recent years. One thing Ive noticed, and this is anecdotal, Ive had pads fail on every non-Roland kit Ive owned but Ive never had a Roland pad fail on me. Theyre built like tanks.
So, just my experience - roland td-4 in our church, drummers play on it few hours a week and we have snare problems, cymbal nonworking, module that sometimes can't play 3 pads at the same time.
Thanks, Darrin, for the tip. I'm looking to upgrade, and it's very difficult trying to find the very best kit for under $2k.
Had an alesis surge kit for 3 years, hasn't failed on me :) The toms are great for the price, just hte sounds are lacking
@nikodimson Yes, and I realize my experience is anecdotal. I could just have had rotten luck. Ive heard Yamaha pads are really solid.
Hi Justin, thanks again for a spot-on review! At 65Drums I always give a thumps-up before watching the video; you’re that good.
Really considering this one over the vad306... but the toms sizes aren’t my favorite.. can I get bigger pads from Roland that can be compatible with this set... ? Anyone...
td27kv. And yeah, there's a few bigger tom options that will work on here just fine. It's a fun kit to play.
@@RADERFPV awesome ty
Hi Justin, thank you for this (these) great review(s)! I play reggae and rocksteady and as you can imagine, Cross stick and rim shot are key for me. Have you had time you check theese features? Can you advise me on the best drumset for such use, within a reasonable price range? Is it TD17KVX?
Is it possible to put the snare and the floor tom on snare stands?
great review of this kit. i think you'd mentioned something about not using a felt beater. is plastic the preferred beater type or just anything not felt? i'm wondering if the newer Iron Cobra beaters would be ok. The ones that have a circle of rubber on it rather than the older felt ones.
Drumshack London These guys say that the drum module has the TD50 sound if you get it connected to a good speaker? Bye passing the TD25 and TD30...I wonder.
what snare drum stand can i buy to separate it on its own stand sir?
Just bought a TD 17 KVX. Sounds and play are amazing! I'm a guitarist really, but learning new skills in Lockdown. So far so good....PM200 to follow soon!!
Same here
I just paid mine today. I'm 40 and feel like i was 6 and right before Christmas. I got mine from drumtec with a bigger rack to fit their 18"Kickdrum. I hope i evaded the downsides since I payed over 2500€ which is s lot of money for me.
But you know. I wanted to play at home.
Damn i wasn't that excited since the birth of my children. Holy crap. Best feeling.
Yay
Its just sad theres no rimshits
How have you been liking it? I'd be excited too, looks awesome!
@@RADERFPV to be honest: yes and no. It's surely a great E-Drum but there are two major flaws:
One is that the cymbals, the ride and the HiHat are extremely loud. So loud that if you play, i mean really play with normal force, in a living room, it is absolutely impossible for someone else (my wife) to do some work or watch tv. You need an extra room with some isolation of live alone. (Had to find a room for the kit, which makes rehearsing a thing i must schedule which is what i was trying to avoid by getting an e drum)
Second is the HiHat. It does not work like a real one. If you want to do these HiHat splashes, like when you hit it and open it at the same time, than close it again, it doesn't work since the sample played does not change after you hit the cymbal even if you open it. (Closing works fine interestingly. Cuts the sound in a plausible and realistic manner) The opening process must already going on when you hit the HiHat. The cymbal must already been on its way. It doesn't sound like a big deal, but i had to completely alter the way i play the HiHat which bothers me big time.
Currently i try to play Roxeanne from the Police with the HiHat open on "4and". It is really difficult to open the Hat between "4" and "4and". If you fail it just sounds like a regular closed HiHat.
Also stuff from Tool is really hard to reproduce because of the fast HiHats with some open in between. I just can't manage on the TD 17. But i can on an acoustic kit easily (just the HiHat, not a complete Tool drum cover lol)
These are two big issues for me personally so i regret the purchase.
@@Wranuckl Thank you for your feedback, I really do appreciate it. I tried it and the td27 last night at guitar center, and I totally see what you mean about both topics you brought up. I'm not too worried about the noise, but properly working the hi-hat sucked on both kits. I used to have on old Alesis DM10 kit that had a WAY better hi-hat implementation. I'm definitely thinking things over having played it now. Thanks again, hope you're doing great.
15:14 I've heard a beat similar to that somewhere.......
This was my first electronic kit. My only complaints are the rack and the cable snake.
I'd have to agree, those are two of the main downsides
Nice starter kit!
Is the cable snake that big of an inconvenience? If so, why? Can these issues be altered or fixed? Just asking because I am looking to purchase this td17 module for a conversion kit.
as a td17kvx owner, who added a cymbal and a tom (via a splitter), I ran into the rack's limits. The solution was pretty easy, I bought a second rack off a guy who mounted his set on his old one and didn't need the td17 frame. Ended up being a cheap solution and made the whole kit much more breathable, I replaced the weird H piece with a curved beam and added another "curved beam + leg" section on the right. Plenty of room for expansion now!
@@joshhynson3192 the way the wires are bunched together doesn't leave much room for adjustment. That as well as the fact that you have to replace the whole thing if on cable breaks.
Damn Justin...6’6”...wow tall dude...😂✌️👍
That's my takeaway from the video. Lol
I bought a TD17kvx the week it came out, and I got cymbal boom arms. It's weird that they changed during production
@Rohan Reed i know right, such a bummer. I dont mind the newer design but boom arms would have been great.
Probably wasn't cost affective.
My TD17KVXS kit got me through Covid lockdown, was a fine and fun alternative to physiotherapy after some serious rotator cuff surgery, and reconnected me with my life long love of drumming - fifty years and counting. Simply put, I love this drum kit. Winner
I have owned the TD17 KVX for a couple of months and love the kit. My first electronic kit, which I still own, is a Yamaha DTX430. While that kit was a great entry level purchase, the new Rowland kit is in a whole different class.
Hey Kenneth....have you still got the td17kvx kit??
If so...are you still happy with it? No problems?
I'm not a fan of the tom pad either. 10in pads with 8in heads. Why? just make them 10in heads.
Probably to get people to buy up or spend more money upgrading the pads over time. Roland isn’t hoping this is your first and last e-kit.
@@sharinglungs3226 True
Ive never hit the rim but it is weird. I cant remember who now but a professional drummer actually uses them added to his acoustic set.
I actually own a TD-17 KL it's my first drum kit, I just started drumming 2 months ago and I'm actually happy with it. It doesn't have the mesh toms and the bigger snare and the 3 zone ride and the hi-hat but for $1100 (I live in Hungary so it's more expensive) it was worth it, even though I'm not an expert yet.
Hey fellow Hungarian, and what do you think after 4 years?
Nice job, Justin! The whole intention while developing the TD-17 module was to include TD-50 module features, while keeping the low latency as a priority. You can import samples and combine them, while still keeping the internal stock sound editing or the combined editing available without increasing the latency. So, you're now waiting for the TD-35 hey?:-)))
Glad you enjoyed it Michael :) I'm sure you had a hand in development. You all did a great job on this drumset :)
Just wanted to say. I bought my TD-17KVK basically at launch and it has the boom arms. So they did ship with them at least for a while.
One of the best music equipment reviews I’ve seen. Well done!!
Been using this to trigger sounds with Superior Drummer 3.0. I LOVE my TD-17KVX
Whoa! Your're 6'6"! That's why I was thinking all these drums seem small! LOL!
Justin you’re playing a single BD pedal that’s amazingly fast!
The review was great and I forwarded it to a friend looking at the TD 17 kit he subscribed as well!! Review was a big help for him!!
Merry Christmas!! Buddy..!
Man you are just so so so good at making these videos. Bravo!
The snare looks like a Remo practice pad I had 25 years ago.
Haha, brilliant, I remember I had one too... should have used it more... but darn that thing was loud!
@Rohan Reed Yeah, it does work well.
Having upgraded from a generic brand 9 piece electronic kit to the TD17KVX i am beyond happy with the quality and sounds. my only minor gripe is that, one of the two spare trigger ports is used up by the second crash symbol.
Cheers from Australia, you helped me make a decision getting this kit.
Nice review! Just took delivery of my 17KVX yesterday. Still in the box while I try to make room. Box review- they are rectangular and heavy and fit nicely in my garage for now.
Guessing it's out of the box by now, haha. How do you like it?
@@tikihead I love it. It’s made a huge difference in my recordings. Worth every penny.
@@reason2463 I'm glad you like it! I'm just starting out. I've had a practice pad for a little bit, and now want a kit (ekit because of the noise). So I've been going back and forth on whether or not to spend the money, haha. I'm really leaning towards yes
@@tikihead I think the Roland kits are top of the line and the 17-KVX is the sweet spot for price vs. features and performance.
@@reason2463 I ended up ordering one! Really excited for it.
Can you still buy boom arms for them?
Looking into taking up a 48 year old dream of drumming. The Roland TD17KVX is very attractive to me. Thanks for the detailed vid.
Thank you, for the very well informed and thought out review of this product.
I'm learning a lot from you.
Iv been playing drums since the 70’s and know absolutely zip zero nada about E drums so very happy I found this channel and Justin explaining the E drum concept from A to Z on so many different models is a great learning experience.
Dunno I still prefer my TD9KX2 because the drums on this set look sort of cheap to me...
The snare is nice but your toms are nicer.
Really great review i,m gonna go with the td17kvx over the strike .I played the strike at my local music store and did not like the feel of the cymbal pads felt to thick and clunky to me. and felt like the module was quiet even turned all way up .Also did not like the stock sounds I prefer Roland.Thanks for this review Justin.
This is a great and insightful review.
Just bought a TD17KVX, as a drummer in his mid-40's who hasn't played for 17 years. I've only had it for 4 days, but I've been putting in an hour or so a day behind the set, and am redeveloping my chops and timing. The KD-10 is irritating me with its tendency to slip out of the jaw of my Iron Cobra bass pedal, but I like the feel of it when its connected. I'm loving the coaching features, and once I'm warmed up, the bluetooth connectivity has allowed me to play along with my favorite songs in a way that haven't been able to...really, ever. The downsides mentioned in this video, had I seen them before ordering my set, honestly wouldn't have driven me away from this kit. I just need to figure out my KD-10 and pedal setup.
I don’t know if I’m too late, but I also own a td17, and the plate that connects to your pedal can actually be flipped around. (This is what I had to do) and it grabs better. I also put a small piece of rubber in the clamp to make it more sturdy. Hasn’t fallen off once since, and I use double kick pretty hard sometimes. Hope this helps.
Sweet review! Bought the 17kvx last year, my kit rack came with the boom arms
I'm a self taught drummer who loves music and loved playing music a long time ago and I finally am getting back into it after many years away. Just wanted to pop in and say thank you for your videos, I've been looking at getting an electronic set for quite awhile now and your content is so great and informative. I finally decided on the TD-17KVX. I am wondering though, is there a forum or some other resource where people create and share their own user kits/settings? Like it would great if people showed off their own builds of famous drummers' sounds that you could either download or even just follow a typed out settings guide to get dave grohl's nevermind sound or danny carey's amazing sounds. Anything out there like that at all?
Great review. Please do an Alesis Strike review as well! 🙏🏼
I just picked one up yesterday. It is an awesome product and I highly recommend it.
Hi Justin. Glad to see this review. I have been looking at the TD-17 but I don't like the tom pads and the cymbals are too small. - Just as you experience. So I've talked to the guys at drum-tec and they have offered me a kit with ATV EXS-5 hardware and the TD-17 module (with their own additional kits and snares). All to and very reasonable price. Do you think that will be a good match?
ATV is an amazing company. I love Roland, but I personally believe ATV will surpass them, especially in their adrums
I've had the KVX for about a year now. Overall... I think it's great. After fine tuning a few module sets to my taste... it's been a lot of fun playing and recording with this kit. I do have a few suggestions for subtle improvements Roland could make (like triggering the bell on the ride) but I definitely have experienced more pros than cons. My next investment is Superior Drummer 3... which I think will take the joy of playing this kit to a whole new level. Have fun... rock on!
Try out Steven Slate Drums 5, it sounds very good, similar to sd3, with all the editing/EQ/Tuning you need but it’s free.
Hi Justin - just left a similar question for you in the comments for your first impression video for the TD-17 KVX.
I see this video is about 2.5 years old at this point, and the cost of the 17KVX is indeed higher than it was back then (basically a few dollars shy of $2k before you add the hh stand, pedal, throne, etc.). Do you still recommend this set, for a drummer that's played professionally and mostly casually for the past 40 years, who wants something for their home to practice and play with friends and maybe gig a little eventually? I know the KD27 set is even better, more versatile, more realistic, but that's just too much money for me. This set, at the initial $2k price is just barely in my price range, so if there's a more recent candidate at a similar price point in 2021, that you'd recommend, I'd be interested in knowing what that is. Thanks!
If price is important consider a used td17. As long as its not obviously abused it should be fine. Roland stuff is built like tanks. Pro quality. Yamaha too. Alesis no. This is a very nice set and will last decades if taken care of. My 23 yo td10 still triggers perfectly.
Hey Justin,
I just ordered a td-17kvxs, I can't seem to figure out what the difference is between the KVX and the KVXS. Have you heard of this package?
what on earth is that?
I was looking at the Alessis, tried it liked it but then I played the Roland and bought the Roland, hands down the roland has much better response and sensitivity, you could feel the difference right away ,love my td 17 kvx
Which Alesis did you try? I'm currently in the Strike vs TD17KVX dilemma and I can't go to stores to try them because of COVID
And believe me reliability wise you are way ahead. Pro level quality.
Hey excellent review! I've owned a TD-17KVX for around a year now. I previously owned an Alesis Crimson (Gen 1) as my first at home drumset. I enjoyed the Crimson, however it felt a little cheap and plastic-y overall. I knew I wanted something with more longevity and better sound and feel (especially the cymbals). I did my research and I settled on the TD-17KVX, and overall I must say I'm very pleased with it and I feel its very worth the price.
I really dig the hi-hat and all the cymbals especially after playing the Crimson's cymbals for a long time, they feel so much more natural and less cheap.
I love the snare I think it feels very natural for me to play, love the bigger size of it. I do think the toms are good I really wish that the floor tom was bigger, I play an acoustic kit every 3 out of the 4 weeks of the month at church and whenever I go back home to my kit the tiny size of the floor tom throws me off and I commonly hit the rim.
However my only real complaint of the drumset is the kickpad. I think the KD-10 feels great for how small it is but my pedal has such a hard time staying connected... I'll have to reconnect it all the time because it will get so loose which is very annoying. Its not like I have a weird pedal either, just a regular DW3000 Single Pedal. While it is annoying it is a minor grievance, and I'm sure there may be some user error in there as well with the kickpad. But other than that I love the drumset overall! Any minor grievances I have do not detract from the drumset as a whole and I'm super happy with it and I look foward to having it for many years to come!
try putting some black electrical tape over the plug input, that should keep it from popping out.
Justin I have boom arms on my td17kv. Thats weird you dont have them. I bought mine back in october so maybe the changed it or something.
It doesn't have td50 sounds though. I was a little disapointed finding that out after buying it. I have been able to get some decent sounding kits after tweaking it and dialing it in for five months. I wish it did have more acoustic sounds though. But
For the money it is the best. Enjoy it.
I believe the TD-17kvx is the standard for affordable higher quality electric drum sets. Especially if you have young children :)
I have one of these and i love it. I've never had another Roland kit though so i can't compare. I wish there were more snare sounds though.
This was first electric drum set, and overall I'm very happy with it. I had gone about 10 years without being able to play much because I couldn't have an acoustic set where I've lived. I often thought of buying an electric set but they were always too expensive, a piece of junk, or both. So I'm grateful to Roland for finally making a set that was affordable enough that also feels very natural to play on. Also I'm grateful to this channel for helping me with my research about the best products on the market before I purchased.
I agree that the rack can be a bit limiting, however I was still able to achieve the 1 up 2 down setup with the toms I prefer. I just dropped the clamp down as far as I could on the rack and the pad as far down as I could on the metal arm as I could. This then allowed me to position the that middle tom right next to the floor tom.
Good points, nice tip about the one up two down. I prefer that too! :) Glad you've been finding the channel helpful!
Nice first set. Best value in Rolands line. And they are very reliable.
Should I get this, or save up for the 27kv? I like the idea of the extra inputs and the more advance USB midi out options (like 28 tracks being sent out) on the td27kv, and that's about it. I actually prefer the looks of the td17kvx kit, as it doesn't try to look like an acoustic set. I know I'm not in the norm, but I actually prefer e-drums to look their part, and for acoustic kits to look their part. Not a fan of the hybrid looking kits. So I'm torn on saving up mostly for the better module, or get the td17kvx knowing it's not very expandable without splitting up zones and whatnot. If any of you have played both, can you please share your experience? I really only want to buy once and not regret the purchase. My gut says go with the 27kv, but as a novice/intermediate (at best) player, I'm thinking maybe the digital ride/snare would be overkill for me. I barely know what cross sticking is, smh. If the td17 module had more inputs and sent out all separate midi tracks like the 27 does, I would get the td17 kit all day.
Aye I knew I’d find you here lol. Not sure if you remember me but my name used to be “clash with Josh”, we were contemplating between the 17 and 27. Well, I finally pulled the trigger on a td 27kv and it’s arriving tomorrow. You still liking your Vad kit?
@@mitchmcturtle6890 Congrats Josh, that's so awesome! I'm sure you're going to love it!
Sadly, I ended up selling mine :( Not because I didn't love it, just because I didn't have the room anymore after starting up another youtube channel. I regret selling it so much, every day.
My family and I are moving into a bigger home this weekend, so I'll certainly be buying another kit once I have the funds. I think this time though I'll end up going with the same kit you got, the td 27kv. The 506 was awesome, but I struggled to get a good tom height with me being such a small guy. The big bass drum made it to where I couldn't lower the toms any lower without doing some jerry rig stuff. I think the td27kv will work out a lot better in that regard. I sure miss playing on the 506 though, it was an awesome looking and playing kit.
Please let me know what you think of it once you get it setup. I still remembering setting it up like the back of my hand, so feel free to hit me up with any questions.
Should I get the Roland TD-17KVX or Yamaha DTX6K3-X ? Which is the best option and why?
Hello brother, may i ask whats the difference between this TD17KVX vs TD17KVX2
New firmware (you can download) and thinner cymbals.
@@PawsleyDirt thank you brother.
I recently purchased the TD17KVX, and the only downside I've experienced has been the overly bouncy feel to the bass drum pad. I've been doing some research into how that might be remedied, but I was wondering if you experienced anything similar when you were testing this setup; if so, how were you able to "correct" the issue? Thanks for the entertaining and informative content!
Great drum set. Agree bigger floor Tom is needed and cross stick not loud enough or I haven’t figured how to increase volume correctly.
How about putting a towel over the pad? It still reacts to the beater but is dampening the bounce i think
@@stevengreen8402 he’s done a full tutorial on the module
I bought this drum set right when it was released and I can confirm my version still has boom arms for all the cymbals. Really a shame that they changed that after the fact. But it really is a pleasure to play with that. The sounds are amazing, the bluetooth is super useful, the whole thing feels super sturdy. I love it.
I have boom arms too. I bought mine in october. They changed the boom arms after?
I bought mine in December and it has boom arms
I'm going to buy this kit within a couple of weeks (hopefully). This seems to me to be the only kit that sounds nice, is a quality product, and that I can afford. I can't afford to sell it off and buy a different one or buy replacement pads etc., so this kit will have to last me for at least 10 years. I can also not afford to be too picky about the quality of the sounds or whether this kit is worse with the machine gunning than others. To be honest, the Drum-tec videos of Ralf Schumacher playing the TD-17 is what swung my vote. ;-) (And the fact that Drum-tec ships every TD-17 module with a complimentary pack of amazing sounding kits.)
I haven't had a kit (acoustic or e) to practice on for the past fifteen years. So for me this kit is going to be a huge step forward in terms of being able to practice at home and being able to use it for band rehearsals. I perform live maybe once every two years, for me it's just a hobby but hopefully with the TD-17KVX I will get my groove down and my rudiments to a decent level. I can hardly sleep, so excited!
The only extra option I would like to buy is an additional (ride) cymbal. My question to you guys is this: is it possible (advisable) to use a Yamaha PCY135 with the TD-17? I know it won't work as a 3-zone cymbal, but will it work well as a 2-zone cymbal? Can anyone comment on that from experience? I would even like to get the PCY155 as a ride, but then I would not be able to use the cup. I'm not sure what to do. Any advice is appreciated!
I dont think Yamaha cymbals work. Different piezo set-up. A cy-15 would be nice. You can get a used one around $200-$250.
I had a td-11k on a MDS-4V rack with boom arms, when I bought the td-17kvx I was very disappointed to get the MDS-COM without the arms as I thought it's a disadvantage.
After assembling the kit I found that the long cymbals arms + ball joints are much much better than the old boom arms, the arms are long enough so can reach every point I want anyways and the ball joint really makes it easy to get the perfect angle, something that was not always possible on my old rack.
I'd say the MDS-COM is a straight upgrade over the old rack.
That's interesting what you say about the kick going in between the two posts... I actually have mine (and I'm a complete beginner, and I set it up without looking at any videos, etc)... but I have my kick just to the right of the right post... so there would be no size restriction if I wanted a larger kick.......
I think this is a nice package, however I am only a beginner and I am already too addicted to vst sounds to appreciate this module. The amazing sounds from superior drummer completely eclipse this module and make drumming a lot more fun for me. Until they catch up I see little value in buying a 600 dollar module when a much cheaper one triggers midi just as well.
Hey Justin! Good review my friend. Also I think you've improved your playing style a bit. Better groove, and better timing. Or you just were in the right mood. 😜 Have a great day! And keep drumming 🥁
I got my td17kvx love it made a user kit today think it's sounds better then presets
I bought my TD-17KVX just after release and the snare mount is the only mount that came as a ball joint (It's also chrome). The cymbal mounts I received are the boom arms you show in the launch video and I find them rather clunky and difficult to get set in the right position without the cymbal tilting or leaning awkwardly. This is my first time seeing the ball jointed cymbal mounts which I think would work much better. Overall I really like the kit however I've made a few upgrades to it by replacing the snare with a PD-128s, the upper toms with PDX-100 pads and the floor tom with a PD-120 pad. Also swapped the rack out with an Alesis rack from a Command mesh kit and added a CY-8 cymbal to the Aux input. Pretty much all I have left of the TD-17kvx kit is module and cymbals but hey, now I have a good module with a great set of pads that I have probably over paid for.
Started Playing about six months ago and this is the Kit I bought TD17KVX I added Tama double pedals that work great if you move snare drum over, I also added a Roland trigger and an acoustic snare. I love this kit, but since I take lessons on an acoustic I obviously have my complaints. I don't like the feel of the cymbals but thats to be expected. since I'm learning I haven't been experimenting with all the module can do, (I leave it on acoustic or live ).... little by little I'm learning how to use it. All in all I'm Happy. Also you are one of the main reasons I bought this kit THANKS !!! when I had a question your reviews straightened me out.
Man!!! that intro drum fill was epic!
Can anybody answer me if it is good to upgrade my snare to PD-85?? I have a TD-11kv. My snare is a PDX-8. And are there positional sensing on PD-85s??
I have downloaded the two extension kits, the Series 3 and the Designer, and both kits sound fantastic. The price is right and they sound better than the standard kits that come with the module. Great customer service to as I had questions and Chris got right back to me. Highly recommend you check them out. maybe Justin could do a demo (and no I don't work for Vexpressions, just a hack drummer that doesn't know how to tweek the sounds and all that) Great Roland kit.
I'm a singer songwriter wanting to incorporate drums into my songwriting and my Roland 17kvx get here Monday, can't wait! Don't forget to buy a kick pedal and high hat stand
Ok, so I just found out a couple of interesting things. First, as far as the rack goes, there are three possible versions for the TD-17 series. The original one for the KVX was called the MDS-4KVX, and may still be available depending on where you buy the kit--e.g., one store in Japan has it listed as part of their TD-17KVX, and some stores in the U.S. might still have the old one in stock. Sounds to me like the idea was to simply things logistically, using the same hardware for all three kits instead of two somewhat different sets of hardware. Glancing at the pics, the changes may not be entirely bad--Roland's touts a couple of "improvements" in their announcement, though they gloss over the negatives. (Also note that the new rack is 1.1kg heavier according to the listings I'm seeing.)
Here's the Roland announcement about that: rolandus.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360014887551-TD-17K-L-TD-17KV-TD-17KVX-MDS-COMPACT-Stand-Information
Here's a listing with a pic of the new rack:
www.ikebe-gakki.com/ec/pro/disp/1/614332
And here's a listing and pic of the old one:
www.soundhouse.co.jp/products/detail/item/251322/
And here's the old rack for the KL and KV kits:
www.soundhouse.co.jp/products/detail/item/172038/
Second, in Japan, stores have made their own custom versions of the kits as promos. The latest I've seen is the KVS stock kit with the newer MDS-COM stand and two upgrades--the VH-10 Hi-hat and the CY-13R ride. The two crash cymbals are the cheaper CY-8 pads, not the CY-12 from the KVX kit, and the CY-5 that was originally the hi-hat is still included but touted as a splash instead.
So now I'm trying to figure out what's the best bang for the buck. The CY-13R goes for about $165 here, the CY-12 about $160, the CY-8 or CY-5 around $80 to $85, and the VH-10 around $270. Every store gives you a somewhat different set of accessories with different generic brands for some of them (e.g., the throne and mat).
Base KV with mat only, no other accessories, roughly $1300
www.soundhouse.co.jp/products/detail/item/251320/
Base KV with accessories, roughly $1376
www.ikebe-gakki.com/ec/pro/disp/1/577841
Upgraded KV and accessories, roughly $1740
www.ikebe-gakki.com/ec/pro/disp/1/608036
Stock KVX plus mat, roughly $1720
www.soundhouse.co.jp/products/detail/item/251321/
KVX plus accessories, roughy $1980
www.mh-friends.com/shop/index.cgi?No=1098113&grid=SetTypeButton
Justin,
My spending limit is high, and I am accordingly grateful. But, as this expands my choices it increases my confusion. Please give me some suggestions in the $8-$10K range.
Thanks, Steve
Yo, are you planning on doing a review of the updated kit? TD-17 KVX2? Are there any major updates?
6:26 I have a TD-11KV, the snare and the floor tom are PDX-8s, the two rack toms are PDX-6s, they SUCK!!! The plastic rim is so so annoying and I sometimes accidentally hit it and the sound is annoying as hell!! Finally there is a RUclipsr talking about this issue.... I have no idea why Roland added this rim to the pads except for making it look bigger.....
Ya? The high hat settings are in two different places on the module.
The intelligence is high, but you need to learn a lot of technology which most drummers DON'T HAVE. There is a reason we play the only acoustic instrument. LOL.
I no longer use a computer and SSD3 software and only use the TD17 Sounds, Yes I can tell a bit of difference but I am starting to come around on this, Roland sounds are very very easy to get used to and the more I play with tweaking the kits I think I likely will stay with the TD17 sounds ...I will also say that setting up the PA ch. will also make a world of def. Thanks for the time you take to do an amazing job, Justin!
ON the TD-17 KVX kick pad, I put a 50 lb dumbbell on the bass drum plate at the bottom because I felt the pad was moving around too much!!
Nice review.I have been looking at this kit and you made some very good points.Things to consider. Im no a fan of the rack or wire harness. Limits your setup flexibility. But there is nothing else like it at this price point.
And I too must give Roland kudos for finally coming out with such a set with so many great options for a somewhat reasonable price as opposed to a small fortune for some of them that are out there. I feel the bang for the buck on this model cannot be beat and if they had done this a long time ago I would have bought one a long time ago instead of now
How many extra triggers can you attach to the drumkit, like an extra Tom or crash? BTW good review 👏
The module has got 1 more trigger input and an aux input
HansHansen Or you can Split the Inputs.
@@giuliano8031 I don't think that that work
JP Worthy Can’t you choose a different sound for the Rim and the Head?
@@giuliano8031 yeah you're right
Great review bro, do you know how to turn up the bluetooth volume up: without making the kit louder ? when stream music from my iPhone when I play over songs the volume is not high. enough. I assume there is a way but I haven't been able to find how.......😩
Hmmnnnn....I must have got a first batch, because my KVX has boom arms straight out of the box.
I’d like your opinion of me playing with this kit live. It’s been a year of playing bars/venues/festivals with the kvx through an EV system with 2 12”speakers with 2 subs for that extra punch! It sounds so realistic with all the eq settings & is all around easier than an acoustic kit from space saving to balanced sound. Only downfall is old school crowds underestimating it solely on appearance
I would need boom arms and would have to add them, considering they had them and removed them is unethical if many were expecting them. Played this kit in the store and for the $$$ it's very nice. The snare is great.
@65Drums Hi Justin, can I setup this as a left handed drummer? thanks
Do you know if the snare for the TD17 is polyphonic so you actually get a proper rimshot when you hit the rim and the head? I've only seen it on high-end e-snares. For lower ones, you have to set the rim trigger to do rim shot samples but you can't do side stick unless you set it to do so.
enjoy you channel i have a question regarding the td17 and easy drummer it seems when i trigger ez drummer with my keyboard it is much lower and more powerful then when i trigger it with the roland set would you know why? thanks
Still makes sense in 2022?
Yes, kinda. The price is pretty high though
I know roland does that thing where the tone of each hit is slightly different every 3 or 4 hits so you don’t get that machine gun effect. Does the module still do that when using imported samples?
Do You give private lessons? If not, can you recommend someone on Long Island, NY ?
I took advantage of a $1599 sale price yesterday. This kit is awesome! Bought my first drum kit (acoustic) six months ago. Decided to spare the family and neighbors from my practice sessions. I couldn’t be happier. Thanks for the help with setting it up.
Hey Matt, how has the kit been for you? I’ve been eyeing up this kit for a while now
Do you really feel like you need the acoustic kit too? I play keyboard. I got a pretty good weighted model with 88 keys, and I don't miss an acoustic piano at all. The keyboard is a total replacement to me. I wonder how well this translates to electronic drums.
Ah man I have this kit and if it had those boom arms it would be absolutely perfect
How does this compare to the Simmons Titan 70 or is there any comparison?
Took me a long time to figure out the problem with hihat until I calibrated according to instructions
Is this kit still worth to buy brand new? I feel like they should be refreshing the model soon....
Would you recommend this drum set for a starter and just a practice set?
I would. I own one of this. very satisfying to play. Variety samples. And, got bluetooth.
I will have to run midi through a 25 foot cable from the TD-17 module to my computer. Would it be best to use a usb cable or regular midi cable?
1rcproductions USB because it’s bi-directional for streaming MIDI and Audio.
Nice review. I bought the td17kvx in September 2018 and the decision was in part because of your earlier videos about it. Somehow mine came with the boom arms though. I have not at any point regretted buying it!
Is it worth buying second hand td17 at 1100usd?
Yes it’s here! , the reviews here !
Hey :) Thanks for watching
Any advice on how to keep that high hat pad from spinning? I tried the tie that came with it and the high hat stand is screwed in. Thanks!
I was so mad when i found out the plastic rim is glued to the mesh head, thats a dick move roland! dick move!
So I could add more cymbals and extra toms via a splitter cable and splitting channels on the module ??
I'm wondering the same thing