Roland TD17KVX Review
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- Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024
- The Roland TD17KVX surprised many in the industry when it first came out. But now that the dust has settled, is it really worth buying?
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Pros:
Durabile drum pads
Sound editing
Bluetooth
Sounds are a HUGE step up from the td11
Best highhat anywhere near this price range
It’s just a FUN drumset to play
Cons:
Sounds are a huge step up. But STILL not as good as the Strike
Toms are small and have a double rim with proprietary rims
Front of drum rack is really narrow
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My TD17KVXS kit got me through Covid lockdown, was a fine and fun alternative to physiotherapy after some serious rotator cuff surgery, and reconnected me with my life long love of drumming - fifty years and counting. Simply put, I love this drum kit. Winner
Ive been playing drums for 40 years and electronic drums for 25. Ive owned kits from several manufacturers, but Roland somehow manages to stay ahead of the game. However the gap has narrowed a bit in recent years. One thing Ive noticed, and this is anecdotal, Ive had pads fail on every non-Roland kit Ive owned but Ive never had a Roland pad fail on me. Theyre built like tanks.
So, just my experience - roland td-4 in our church, drummers play on it few hours a week and we have snare problems, cymbal nonworking, module that sometimes can't play 3 pads at the same time.
Thanks, Darrin, for the tip. I'm looking to upgrade, and it's very difficult trying to find the very best kit for under $2k.
Had an alesis surge kit for 3 years, hasn't failed on me :) The toms are great for the price, just hte sounds are lacking
@nikodimson Yes, and I realize my experience is anecdotal. I could just have had rotten luck. Ive heard Yamaha pads are really solid.
I just paid mine today. I'm 40 and feel like i was 6 and right before Christmas. I got mine from drumtec with a bigger rack to fit their 18"Kickdrum. I hope i evaded the downsides since I payed over 2500€ which is s lot of money for me.
But you know. I wanted to play at home.
Damn i wasn't that excited since the birth of my children. Holy crap. Best feeling.
Yay
Its just sad theres no rimshits
How have you been liking it? I'd be excited too, looks awesome!
@@RADERFPV to be honest: yes and no. It's surely a great E-Drum but there are two major flaws:
One is that the cymbals, the ride and the HiHat are extremely loud. So loud that if you play, i mean really play with normal force, in a living room, it is absolutely impossible for someone else (my wife) to do some work or watch tv. You need an extra room with some isolation of live alone. (Had to find a room for the kit, which makes rehearsing a thing i must schedule which is what i was trying to avoid by getting an e drum)
Second is the HiHat. It does not work like a real one. If you want to do these HiHat splashes, like when you hit it and open it at the same time, than close it again, it doesn't work since the sample played does not change after you hit the cymbal even if you open it. (Closing works fine interestingly. Cuts the sound in a plausible and realistic manner) The opening process must already going on when you hit the HiHat. The cymbal must already been on its way. It doesn't sound like a big deal, but i had to completely alter the way i play the HiHat which bothers me big time.
Currently i try to play Roxeanne from the Police with the HiHat open on "4and". It is really difficult to open the Hat between "4" and "4and". If you fail it just sounds like a regular closed HiHat.
Also stuff from Tool is really hard to reproduce because of the fast HiHats with some open in between. I just can't manage on the TD 17. But i can on an acoustic kit easily (just the HiHat, not a complete Tool drum cover lol)
These are two big issues for me personally so i regret the purchase.
@@Wranuckl Thank you for your feedback, I really do appreciate it. I tried it and the td27 last night at guitar center, and I totally see what you mean about both topics you brought up. I'm not too worried about the noise, but properly working the hi-hat sucked on both kits. I used to have on old Alesis DM10 kit that had a WAY better hi-hat implementation. I'm definitely thinking things over having played it now. Thanks again, hope you're doing great.
Just bought a TD 17 KVX. Sounds and play are amazing! I'm a guitarist really, but learning new skills in Lockdown. So far so good....PM200 to follow soon!!
Same here
Same here
Iv been playing drums since the 70’s and know absolutely zip zero nada about E drums so very happy I found this channel and Justin explaining the E drum concept from A to Z on so many different models is a great learning experience.
Hey Justin, just wanted to thank you for your great channel. Been interested in drumming since forever, but never had the opportunity (...money) or time to focus on doing it. Starting in at 49, so I don't expect to get anywhere near as good as if I had started younger, but if nothing else I have a fun new hobby. Had been looking for an e-drum set that I could grow with. Made my purchase of the TD-17KVX early January, primarily after viewing your "First Impressions" video (and after a bit of other research as well).
Love this drum set! I had made the mistake to purchase a cheap "Rock band" level type of e-drum kit years ago, and the triggering on the cymbals was just terrible. This set is amazing in comparison (and it should be for $1800). Love the expansion capabilities, being able to load new sounds, the sounds that are built in, the overall feel of the kit is just so much better than a sub $500 kit. Now I just have to keep practicing - and with this kit I feel like I have a "real" drum set to grow into at least.
Thanks again for the detailed and informative reviews - super helpful.
Iain MacNeill I’m happy to hear about someone in exactly the same boat I’m in. At 46 I’ve been meaning to start drumming also and this channel as well as the many constructive comments found in this community have helped me make a similar decision. Best of luck to you.
I'm the same age and am about to pick one up tomorrow. We don't learn as fast as younger people, but wisdom and dedication should make up for it a little. I'm going to try Drumeo and work through all their lessons. How has your drumming journey been?
Just started,... 52! Fun, fun, fun,.....
I’ll keep adding to the fun here. Started at 63 a few months ago! Something I’ve always wanted to do and it’s a great retirement hobby. With any luck I’ll be trading in my “starter kit” and buying the TD-17KVX tomorrow. Thanks for all the great information, Justin!
Looking into taking up a 48 year old dream of drumming. The Roland TD17KVX is very attractive to me. Thanks for the detailed vid.
One of the best music equipment reviews I’ve seen. Well done!!
I have owned the TD17 KVX for a couple of months and love the kit. My first electronic kit, which I still own, is a Yamaha DTX430. While that kit was a great entry level purchase, the new Rowland kit is in a whole different class.
Hey Kenneth....have you still got the td17kvx kit??
If so...are you still happy with it? No problems?
Nice review! Just took delivery of my 17KVX yesterday. Still in the box while I try to make room. Box review- they are rectangular and heavy and fit nicely in my garage for now.
Guessing it's out of the box by now, haha. How do you like it?
@@tikihead I love it. It’s made a huge difference in my recordings. Worth every penny.
@@reason2463 I'm glad you like it! I'm just starting out. I've had a practice pad for a little bit, and now want a kit (ekit because of the noise). So I've been going back and forth on whether or not to spend the money, haha. I'm really leaning towards yes
@@tikihead I think the Roland kits are top of the line and the 17-KVX is the sweet spot for price vs. features and performance.
@@reason2463 I ended up ordering one! Really excited for it.
This was my first electronic kit. My only complaints are the rack and the cable snake.
I'd have to agree, those are two of the main downsides
Nice starter kit!
Is the cable snake that big of an inconvenience? If so, why? Can these issues be altered or fixed? Just asking because I am looking to purchase this td17 module for a conversion kit.
as a td17kvx owner, who added a cymbal and a tom (via a splitter), I ran into the rack's limits. The solution was pretty easy, I bought a second rack off a guy who mounted his set on his old one and didn't need the td17 frame. Ended up being a cheap solution and made the whole kit much more breathable, I replaced the weird H piece with a curved beam and added another "curved beam + leg" section on the right. Plenty of room for expansion now!
@@joshhynson3192 the way the wires are bunched together doesn't leave much room for adjustment. That as well as the fact that you have to replace the whole thing if on cable breaks.
Having upgraded from a generic brand 9 piece electronic kit to the TD17KVX i am beyond happy with the quality and sounds. my only minor gripe is that, one of the two spare trigger ports is used up by the second crash symbol.
Cheers from Australia, you helped me make a decision getting this kit.
I just picked one up yesterday. It is an awesome product and I highly recommend it.
Been using this to trigger sounds with Superior Drummer 3.0. I LOVE my TD-17KVX
Started Playing about six months ago and this is the Kit I bought TD17KVX I added Tama double pedals that work great if you move snare drum over, I also added a Roland trigger and an acoustic snare. I love this kit, but since I take lessons on an acoustic I obviously have my complaints. I don't like the feel of the cymbals but thats to be expected. since I'm learning I haven't been experimenting with all the module can do, (I leave it on acoustic or live ).... little by little I'm learning how to use it. All in all I'm Happy. Also you are one of the main reasons I bought this kit THANKS !!! when I had a question your reviews straightened me out.
Just wanted to say. I bought my TD-17KVK basically at launch and it has the boom arms. So they did ship with them at least for a while.
This is a great and insightful review.
Just bought a TD17KVX, as a drummer in his mid-40's who hasn't played for 17 years. I've only had it for 4 days, but I've been putting in an hour or so a day behind the set, and am redeveloping my chops and timing. The KD-10 is irritating me with its tendency to slip out of the jaw of my Iron Cobra bass pedal, but I like the feel of it when its connected. I'm loving the coaching features, and once I'm warmed up, the bluetooth connectivity has allowed me to play along with my favorite songs in a way that haven't been able to...really, ever. The downsides mentioned in this video, had I seen them before ordering my set, honestly wouldn't have driven me away from this kit. I just need to figure out my KD-10 and pedal setup.
I don’t know if I’m too late, but I also own a td17, and the plate that connects to your pedal can actually be flipped around. (This is what I had to do) and it grabs better. I also put a small piece of rubber in the clamp to make it more sturdy. Hasn’t fallen off once since, and I use double kick pretty hard sometimes. Hope this helps.
I actually own a TD-17 KL it's my first drum kit, I just started drumming 2 months ago and I'm actually happy with it. It doesn't have the mesh toms and the bigger snare and the 3 zone ride and the hi-hat but for $1100 (I live in Hungary so it's more expensive) it was worth it, even though I'm not an expert yet.
Hey fellow Hungarian, and what do you think after 4 years?
I took advantage of a $1599 sale price yesterday. This kit is awesome! Bought my first drum kit (acoustic) six months ago. Decided to spare the family and neighbors from my practice sessions. I couldn’t be happier. Thanks for the help with setting it up.
Hey Matt, how has the kit been for you? I’ve been eyeing up this kit for a while now
Do you really feel like you need the acoustic kit too? I play keyboard. I got a pretty good weighted model with 88 keys, and I don't miss an acoustic piano at all. The keyboard is a total replacement to me. I wonder how well this translates to electronic drums.
Waiting for my new TD-17KVX to arrive had 3 prior acoustic sets over 50 year's never keeped up with haven't sat behind a set drums since the late 80's cannot wait to get back at it now at 62 and retiring soon thanks for the great demo 👍
How are you liking it? Thanks
Justin you’re playing a single BD pedal that’s amazingly fast!
The review was great and I forwarded it to a friend looking at the TD 17 kit he subscribed as well!! Review was a big help for him!!
Merry Christmas!! Buddy..!
This was first electric drum set, and overall I'm very happy with it. I had gone about 10 years without being able to play much because I couldn't have an acoustic set where I've lived. I often thought of buying an electric set but they were always too expensive, a piece of junk, or both. So I'm grateful to Roland for finally making a set that was affordable enough that also feels very natural to play on. Also I'm grateful to this channel for helping me with my research about the best products on the market before I purchased.
I agree that the rack can be a bit limiting, however I was still able to achieve the 1 up 2 down setup with the toms I prefer. I just dropped the clamp down as far as I could on the rack and the pad as far down as I could on the metal arm as I could. This then allowed me to position the that middle tom right next to the floor tom.
Good points, nice tip about the one up two down. I prefer that too! :) Glad you've been finding the channel helpful!
Nice first set. Best value in Rolands line. And they are very reliable.
Thank you, for the very well informed and thought out review of this product.
I'm learning a lot from you.
Sweet review! Bought the 17kvx last year, my kit rack came with the boom arms
I've had the KVX for about a year now. Overall... I think it's great. After fine tuning a few module sets to my taste... it's been a lot of fun playing and recording with this kit. I do have a few suggestions for subtle improvements Roland could make (like triggering the bell on the ride) but I definitely have experienced more pros than cons. My next investment is Superior Drummer 3... which I think will take the joy of playing this kit to a whole new level. Have fun... rock on!
Try out Steven Slate Drums 5, it sounds very good, similar to sd3, with all the editing/EQ/Tuning you need but it’s free.
I was looking at the Alessis, tried it liked it but then I played the Roland and bought the Roland, hands down the roland has much better response and sensitivity, you could feel the difference right away ,love my td 17 kvx
Which Alesis did you try? I'm currently in the Strike vs TD17KVX dilemma and I can't go to stores to try them because of COVID
And believe me reliability wise you are way ahead. Pro level quality.
And I too must give Roland kudos for finally coming out with such a set with so many great options for a somewhat reasonable price as opposed to a small fortune for some of them that are out there. I feel the bang for the buck on this model cannot be beat and if they had done this a long time ago I would have bought one a long time ago instead of now
I no longer use a computer and SSD3 software and only use the TD17 Sounds, Yes I can tell a bit of difference but I am starting to come around on this, Roland sounds are very very easy to get used to and the more I play with tweaking the kits I think I likely will stay with the TD17 sounds ...I will also say that setting up the PA ch. will also make a world of def. Thanks for the time you take to do an amazing job, Justin!
Thank you so much! I just got this and it is the best thing i have now. I had the td 11k for five years and this is a huge upgrade!
Thank you. :)
Gday! I am 54 and new to all this e-drums stuff - my 2017 heart surgery involved them taking veins etc out of my forearm and making a huge mess of my hand and wrist so I am literally starting to teach myself to play all over again... in consideration to my wife I decided an e-kit and headphones was far more appropriate and sold off all my acoustic gear to finance the changeover. I initially bought an Alesis Crimson to get started - although it looked awesome and was really solid, it confirmed all my worst fears about e-dums lol. I then bought a Roland TD4KP and was much more impressed with the sounds and general playability... have also now created a monster e-kit with a TD17 module and many, many pads... including splitting/doubling and now working on the fine tuning and find these reviews and explanations VERY helpful. Thanks Justin and cheers from Andy down in Australia
I bought my TD-17KVX just after release and the snare mount is the only mount that came as a ball joint (It's also chrome). The cymbal mounts I received are the boom arms you show in the launch video and I find them rather clunky and difficult to get set in the right position without the cymbal tilting or leaning awkwardly. This is my first time seeing the ball jointed cymbal mounts which I think would work much better. Overall I really like the kit however I've made a few upgrades to it by replacing the snare with a PD-128s, the upper toms with PDX-100 pads and the floor tom with a PD-120 pad. Also swapped the rack out with an Alesis rack from a Command mesh kit and added a CY-8 cymbal to the Aux input. Pretty much all I have left of the TD-17kvx kit is module and cymbals but hey, now I have a good module with a great set of pads that I have probably over paid for.
I bought a TD17kvx the week it came out, and I got cymbal boom arms. It's weird that they changed during production
@Rohan Reed i know right, such a bummer. I dont mind the newer design but boom arms would have been great.
Probably wasn't cost affective.
Fantastic unboxing video!! Just bought this kit last night and you just explained it so perfectly! I’ll let you know how it goes! Thank you so much 💪💪🥁🥁🥁👍👍👍
15:14 I've heard a beat similar to that somewhere.......
Man!!! that intro drum fill was epic!
Nice review. I bought the td17kvx in September 2018 and the decision was in part because of your earlier videos about it. Somehow mine came with the boom arms though. I have not at any point regretted buying it!
Hey excellent review! I've owned a TD-17KVX for around a year now. I previously owned an Alesis Crimson (Gen 1) as my first at home drumset. I enjoyed the Crimson, however it felt a little cheap and plastic-y overall. I knew I wanted something with more longevity and better sound and feel (especially the cymbals). I did my research and I settled on the TD-17KVX, and overall I must say I'm very pleased with it and I feel its very worth the price.
I really dig the hi-hat and all the cymbals especially after playing the Crimson's cymbals for a long time, they feel so much more natural and less cheap.
I love the snare I think it feels very natural for me to play, love the bigger size of it. I do think the toms are good I really wish that the floor tom was bigger, I play an acoustic kit every 3 out of the 4 weeks of the month at church and whenever I go back home to my kit the tiny size of the floor tom throws me off and I commonly hit the rim.
However my only real complaint of the drumset is the kickpad. I think the KD-10 feels great for how small it is but my pedal has such a hard time staying connected... I'll have to reconnect it all the time because it will get so loose which is very annoying. Its not like I have a weird pedal either, just a regular DW3000 Single Pedal. While it is annoying it is a minor grievance, and I'm sure there may be some user error in there as well with the kickpad. But other than that I love the drumset overall! Any minor grievances I have do not detract from the drumset as a whole and I'm super happy with it and I look foward to having it for many years to come!
try putting some black electrical tape over the plug input, that should keep it from popping out.
I actually purchased the TD-17KVX last month. It’s my first e-kit and my first kit in 10 to 15 years. That being said, you’ve got a valid point on the toms (especially the floor tom).
@Keith D I know you wrote this review a year ago (so you might not see this) but what are your thoughts now? Have you upgraded the toms?
I have one of these and i love it. I've never had another Roland kit though so i can't compare. I wish there were more snare sounds though.
I bought this drum set right when it was released and I can confirm my version still has boom arms for all the cymbals. Really a shame that they changed that after the fact. But it really is a pleasure to play with that. The sounds are amazing, the bluetooth is super useful, the whole thing feels super sturdy. I love it.
I have boom arms too. I bought mine in october. They changed the boom arms after?
I bought mine in December and it has boom arms
Nice job, Justin! The whole intention while developing the TD-17 module was to include TD-50 module features, while keeping the low latency as a priority. You can import samples and combine them, while still keeping the internal stock sound editing or the combined editing available without increasing the latency. So, you're now waiting for the TD-35 hey?:-)))
Glad you enjoyed it Michael :) I'm sure you had a hand in development. You all did a great job on this drumset :)
Hey Justin! I was a frustrated drummer for quite a while because a live in an apartment and I couldn't play my acoustic drums at all. When I started seeing your videos I was encouraged to buy an electronic set for me. At the same time Roland announced the TD 17 KVX and it couldn't be a better deal. I just got it mine last month, and I'm lovin' it. I feel like this is the best choice nowadays for the drummer in a situation like mine. And keep in rockin' with your videos!
I bought my first one last year. They are a blast!
I was going to buy the td17 kvx but at the time it was out of stock so I went with the td17 kv and bought a cy13r and i'm in love with the kit. Just saving up for the vh 10 now! Great review as well!
A.J. Liedtke I have same problem. Cant find kvx. And I am thinking about same solution like you. But kv has bad cymbals u know, Its okey that upgrade the ride with cy13r but The question is that is the total price getting increase? Or can u use second crash and (when u buy vh10, use the old hihat cymbal like splash maybe) some other pieces easily and good quality?
Really great review i,m gonna go with the td17kvx over the strike .I played the strike at my local music store and did not like the feel of the cymbal pads felt to thick and clunky to me. and felt like the module was quiet even turned all way up .Also did not like the stock sounds I prefer Roland.Thanks for this review Justin.
Superb review. Definitely the best edrum reviewer in the game. Well done.
I had a td-11k on a MDS-4V rack with boom arms, when I bought the td-17kvx I was very disappointed to get the MDS-COM without the arms as I thought it's a disadvantage.
After assembling the kit I found that the long cymbals arms + ball joints are much much better than the old boom arms, the arms are long enough so can reach every point I want anyways and the ball joint really makes it easy to get the perfect angle, something that was not always possible on my old rack.
I'd say the MDS-COM is a straight upgrade over the old rack.
Great review. Much appreciated to hear your honest thoughts about the pros and cons. Well done, sir.
I'm a self taught drummer who loves music and loved playing music a long time ago and I finally am getting back into it after many years away. Just wanted to pop in and say thank you for your videos, I've been looking at getting an electronic set for quite awhile now and your content is so great and informative. I finally decided on the TD-17KVX. I am wondering though, is there a forum or some other resource where people create and share their own user kits/settings? Like it would great if people showed off their own builds of famous drummers' sounds that you could either download or even just follow a typed out settings guide to get dave grohl's nevermind sound or danny carey's amazing sounds. Anything out there like that at all?
Nice review.I have been looking at this kit and you made some very good points.Things to consider. Im no a fan of the rack or wire harness. Limits your setup flexibility. But there is nothing else like it at this price point.
I’d like your opinion of me playing with this kit live. It’s been a year of playing bars/venues/festivals with the kvx through an EV system with 2 12”speakers with 2 subs for that extra punch! It sounds so realistic with all the eq settings & is all around easier than an acoustic kit from space saving to balanced sound. Only downfall is old school crowds underestimating it solely on appearance
I got my td17kvx love it made a user kit today think it's sounds better then presets
That's interesting what you say about the kick going in between the two posts... I actually have mine (and I'm a complete beginner, and I set it up without looking at any videos, etc)... but I have my kick just to the right of the right post... so there would be no size restriction if I wanted a larger kick.......
Great review. Please do an Alesis Strike review as well! 🙏🏼
Not sure if it’s still relevant or new to the conversation, but I found out the other day while playing my TD-17kvx that you can pre-mute the cymbals like on a Yamaha kit so that you can get a muted sound while keeping them choked, and I found out that you can get three different sounds out of the snare; a cross stick sound, a rim shot, and a normal snare sound all without having to switch between the rim shot setting and and the x-stick setting, it’s just a matter of hitting the rim and the head at the same time for a rimshot, like you normally would. So it’s essentially a “three-zone” snare. All you need to do is have the X-stick setting on and you can get all three sounds from the snare. Again, not sure if I’m just living under a rock and didn’t know it was common knowledge, but I was amazed by how flexible and powerful the TD-17 module is and how much it surpassed any Yamaha kit I’d used in the past, both in terms of hardware and and the module.
Yes it’s here! , the reviews here !
Hey :) Thanks for watching
Great review Justin ! I love that snare and hi hat too !! I have owned the TD-17KVX for 2 1/2 months now and am not sorry I bought it. I almost bought the Strike kit but there were too many people having issues and being that it is my first e kit , I did not want any hassles. I have created a couple of awesome kits and love the module. My only issue is that I play left handed and you can't set the module up outside the hi hat . It has to go between the hi hat and first tom because they put the track for the mounting bracket on only one side of the module. All in all it is one sweet set up and I plan on adding another snare for a floor tom. I also bought a Roland PM 100 . I used it 3 times and then no highs or midrange. The amp blew out !! I sent it back for a full refund . I should have taken your advice and bought a Simmons amp. Oh well. Live and learn. Take care.
Bill Perri. Yes. I made a couple of really great sounding kits . The editing features are the best thing about this kit. On one kit I have an open Timpani and a gong on the rims of the toms and they are beautiful accents. Also the Bluetooth is great. You can load a bunch of drumless tracks on your phone and play along and record them ! I may still buy a Strike kit now that they worked out the problems. Would love to play around with that module too. Heard it's killer !
I've had mine for a little over a month and I've played the drums for 14 years and this is my first electric kit. I love this thing, I think for a beginner in this world I love the touches that make this kit feel as natural as possible. The only real grievance that I could think of is the two top mounted toms which aren't very movable but I might put two next to each other on the side of the kit instead. Love the sounds, hardware, ease of use, and the price point. You could go very far with this instrument!!
I have downloaded the two extension kits, the Series 3 and the Designer, and both kits sound fantastic. The price is right and they sound better than the standard kits that come with the module. Great customer service to as I had questions and Chris got right back to me. Highly recommend you check them out. maybe Justin could do a demo (and no I don't work for Vexpressions, just a hack drummer that doesn't know how to tweek the sounds and all that) Great Roland kit.
I found a used Roland TD 4 on Craigslist for $400 and added one Tom and two cymbal's to my TD-17. I used the larger rack section from the TD4 to expand the rack and resold the rest of the pieces and made a profit. I play in a party rock band and couldn't be happier with the TD 17 sounds!
Just got one and set it up. Love it!!!!!!!!!
Hey Justin great in depth review.I bought the kv a month ago from GC. It had a rebate for the vh10 upgrade for free, so hopefully they make good on it. With my GC bucks I’ll hopefully get the cy13 for free basically, so I thought that was the better route to go. A month in the only knocks I have are the cable snake and the center posts being close together. It limits to where you can place the module, but I will say if you use a snare stand you can use the bar for the snare mount to extend the rack.just started playing drums a month ago and was glad that I passed on the 532k and chose this model.Also I bought for 35 bucks the Yamaha dtx cymbal and mount. With the right settings from the module it works great for a extra sound. I would def recommend the kv or kvx version of this.
Purchased a td-17kv in December with the Roland VH-10 rebate, then sold the original hi hat and pedal and got a used CY-13R and additional pdx-8 pad. So for about $1300 all in I have the set I have wanted for 10 years but was previously too expensive for me to pull the trigger. BUY this! it is a great set! Also, I play a td 30 at church. is it better? The individual fad controls on the 30 are nice, and I am not a fan of the snake on the 17. But otherwise they are pretty much equal.THIS IS A GREAT REVIEW JUSTIN. You nailed everything.
I like the TD17KVX kit, as a fellow tall guy I agree with everything in the review. Only upgrades I would do is another PDX-12 for a floor tom and then sell one PDX-8 and buy a CY-15R for a bigger ride and have 4 cymbals. As I am new to electronic drumming I went with a Vexpressions Series 3 kit built for the TD-17 to have some more options. I feel I could spend hours of my life creating kits that wouldn't sound very good so the cost was worth it to me. One other downside I found was after about a month i could start to feel a dent in the kickpad from the drum beater. I stuck on a couple round felt furniture pads to soften the blow. Thanks for the content you put out and keep up the good work!
Drum Detente: Remo Falam Slam as works well on the mesh kick head as it does on an acoustic 👍🏼
Hi Justin, thanks again for a spot-on review! At 65Drums I always give a thumps-up before watching the video; you’re that good.
I've been playing a Roland TD10 kit (the red one) for over 20 years. Aside from the outdated sounds, it's still pretty awesome. I've been researching newer e-kits and really liked the looks and price point of the Alesis Strike Pro SE, but after a LOT of research, I've read nothing but troubles about the hi hats. There are tons of RUclips videos dedicated to fixing the hats (and many other issues), but in my opinion, if I spend over $2k on a drum set, I shouldn't have to spend hours tweaking the settings just to get it to work. For this reason, I bought the Roland TD17KVX2 kit for my son recently and might get the same for me. The sounds are great (especially compared to my ancient TD10) and there was no requisite tweaking to get any of the drums/cymbals to work correctly. In my opinion, Roland still rules the e-drum space.
Justin a tip regarding the snare on the KVX I have had the kit around 18 months and keep striking around the head trigger (blowing my ears off) having took a close look you can in fact change the holder bracket round so the trigger is well away from you (under the tom 1) the snare moulding is reversible the tom toms mouldings are not hope this helps
I'm a singer songwriter wanting to incorporate drums into my songwriting and my Roland 17kvx get here Monday, can't wait! Don't forget to buy a kick pedal and high hat stand
I think this is a nice package, however I am only a beginner and I am already too addicted to vst sounds to appreciate this module. The amazing sounds from superior drummer completely eclipse this module and make drumming a lot more fun for me. Until they catch up I see little value in buying a 600 dollar module when a much cheaper one triggers midi just as well.
Hi Justin. Glad to see this review. I have been looking at the TD-17 but I don't like the tom pads and the cymbals are too small. - Just as you experience. So I've talked to the guys at drum-tec and they have offered me a kit with ATV EXS-5 hardware and the TD-17 module (with their own additional kits and snares). All to and very reasonable price. Do you think that will be a good match?
ATV is an amazing company. I love Roland, but I personally believe ATV will surpass them, especially in their adrums
Love your review style and content. Thank you. and I love my TD-17 out the box
I've had a TD4 module since 2010. Still a fun module....but time to upgrade...finally. I'm going for TD17! Hopefully gonna go for it this Summer.
I'm moving up from the TD1-KV, and I know this is quite the jump, but because of the cymbals on this kit, I'll be saving that little longer to get the KVX variant. It just seems like it's so much more worth the effort.
Disappointed about the lack of kick drum upgrade possibilities, but, definitely will be upgrading the tom pads and get a better ride cymbal, if I can. I think it's a great kit. Thanks for the video - it's really informative and in great detail without lagging or spending too much time on any topic.
Glad you enjoyed the video! It will be a huge jump from the TD1 to the TD17, I'm sure you'll like it
Hi Justin, a few years ago i worked my wsy up to a TD 30 module for my acoustic kit, this is where I found 65 drums (easier than reading the Roland manual), anyway after downsizing our house the drums had to go, as I bought the TD30 module 2nd hand I managed to turn a profit on it (you never loose on used Roland) so 2 years later after building a Garden room I decided i needed drums back in my life. So time to look up 65 drums again and after seeing your review of the TD17 kvx I thought that sounds like the kit for me. Found one on Facebook an old guy bought it 5 months ago, started setting it up but had a fall in his garden and broke his ribs which damaged an organ, so he was told by the Dr not to play them. As he had got shut of the boxes I got the kit with a mapex Good quality Throne, kick pedal and hi hat stand for £1000 never played bargain.... Love the kit although as you state in your review the bell on the ride isn't easy to trigger. Thanks again for your help, Geoff
Didn’t know about this boom arm been replaced.
I bought my kit in december/18 and it does have the boom arms. Really like it.
Great review of the Td-17 Justin!
I would need boom arms and would have to add them, considering they had them and removed them is unethical if many were expecting them. Played this kit in the store and for the $$$ it's very nice. The snare is great.
Justin I have boom arms on my td17kv. Thats weird you dont have them. I bought mine back in october so maybe the changed it or something.
It doesn't have td50 sounds though. I was a little disapointed finding that out after buying it. I have been able to get some decent sounding kits after tweaking it and dialing it in for five months. I wish it did have more acoustic sounds though. But
For the money it is the best. Enjoy it.
Despite being a drummer for the better portion of my life I just recently ventured into the eardrum for the first time picking up a used td-17 for a hell of a price. I did a lot of research Forest ahead of time so when this used kit popped up it was a no-brainer. I didn't know what I was getting myself into once I got home it says up it was definitely a different world it wasn't until several days later that I actually got to sit and really get into it and play around and then that is when my eyes open to the possibilities of how awesome this kid really is I can't really say anything bad about it other than the points that you had made in your video regarding seven things here and there but nothing extraordinary really bad to note. So I say to anyone out there interested in spending that kind of cash for such things I say go for it and go ahead and get this set it is awesome!!❤❤❤
Great review Justin. I bought my TD17KVX not long after the release, and it has the boom arms on the cymbals. I’m not sure when that changed. I added a 10” pad for a second floor tom and still love the kit. I totally agree on both points you made regarding the rack as it pertains to the mounted toms and kick placement. I’ve considered looking for a cheap TD30 rack to convert, but so far it hasn’t bugged me that much. Thanks for your video!
Thanks for your videos Justin! This was my first electronic kit I've bought and I've been pretty stoked so far. A lot of my gripes come from the lack of a dedicated aux in volume knob, the size of the Tom pads, primarily the floor, and the rack. I can never get everything to fit "right" and having the rack toms glued to the support poles is a bit annoying, but I've made do with an offset tom setup. Also I think Roland released two versions of the kvx, since my kit has the boom arms!
Also a minor gripe I've found is that the snare sensor doesn't track the rim all the way around. I was going to use it to practice some bossa novas but the rim click wouldn't trigger on the upper half of the pad, so I resorted to hitting the bottom half of the rim.
Overall though its saved my and my rommates hearing and allows me to love drumming again, so it was a great buy! Thanks again to you and your videos!
Really great review, like your other reviews too. I'm a stickler for details! Some demonstrations and information on cross sticking and the opening of HH lifts just with the foot would be useful as I want to know if the next model of Roland down from this (TD17KV) which has an independent HH-Foot pedal can achieve similar quality sounding results.
Your reviews are nicely detailed.
Hey Justin, Great video. 1 year down the line and I'm loving this kit, i upgraded from the td9 and wow what an improvement. Would def recommend this to beginners or even intermediate drummers.
Hi Justin.great job doing this. I got to say im verry happy over all, over the TD-17 kv. Only 1 problem i have on it, its the Rimclick, Rimschots. The do not play at the same time.its only the one, of the other. Mijn old TD-4. Hafe that opsion. Thx for all those good Info..
6:26 I have a TD-11KV, the snare and the floor tom are PDX-8s, the two rack toms are PDX-6s, they SUCK!!! The plastic rim is so so annoying and I sometimes accidentally hit it and the sound is annoying as hell!! Finally there is a RUclipsr talking about this issue.... I have no idea why Roland added this rim to the pads except for making it look bigger.....
great review Justin. The more I see of all of these various sets, the more I'm thinking of going a hybrid approach (agree that the plastic on the toms, small bass area on the rack, small ride = no good). I guess there are a lot of compatibility issues to review between modules, pads, cymbals, et al ... decisions, decisions.
TD17 kits originally shipped with MDS4 racks but they are no longer made so new rack supplied is the MDS-COMPACT
ON the TD-17 KVX kick pad, I put a 50 lb dumbbell on the bass drum plate at the bottom because I felt the pad was moving around too much!!
I really can't decide between the TD17KVX or the Alesis Strike. I've got the chance to play the TD17KVX and had a good impression but the Strike just looks so nice! Tough decision.
The strike looks and sounds great. From what I've read a lot of people have had problems with faulty parts for the strike so make sure to look at some reviews. One review I read had somebody return a ride 3 times that was faulty and others said about similar problems with other parts. The other issue is apparently the meshes don't feel as nice. The reviews I've read for the TD17KVX seem overall a lot better so I'm going to go try it out this weekend!
@@michaelhaywood7251 I got a chance to play the Strike Pro and did have some problems with all of the cymbals. It could have just been the fact that is was an overused and worn down version that has been abused on the sale floor of a guitar center, but with the fact that people have problems with the hi hats constantly, it really turned me off of the Strike. I think I am going to give Roland a shot.
@@XoldnewsX Yeah I've been looking at more reviews over the last couple of days and the roland apparently feels a lot nicer and has a much better build quality. The roland may look worse without the shells but if you're spending that much money on something you want it to last! Let me know what you think of it! Going tomorrow to demo it so will see what it's like :)
@@michaelhaywood7251 Ended up getting the TD17kvx. Really happy with the decision after playing it for a couple weeks now. Sounds are good, cymbals feel great, the snare has surprised me and feels very nice to play. The only problem I have is that the cable snake is kind of annoying.
Roland was having problems meeting demand with the hardware for crash/ ride .. I waited 6 months to get mine set because they couldn't
meet demand for the original hardware. So they changed it because they had some issues with the supplying the original hardware..
That's why the hardware is different from some td17's to the recent released sets. From what I was told.. Awesome videos ..he's mint .
I'm going to buy this kit within a couple of weeks (hopefully). This seems to me to be the only kit that sounds nice, is a quality product, and that I can afford. I can't afford to sell it off and buy a different one or buy replacement pads etc., so this kit will have to last me for at least 10 years. I can also not afford to be too picky about the quality of the sounds or whether this kit is worse with the machine gunning than others. To be honest, the Drum-tec videos of Ralf Schumacher playing the TD-17 is what swung my vote. ;-) (And the fact that Drum-tec ships every TD-17 module with a complimentary pack of amazing sounding kits.)
I haven't had a kit (acoustic or e) to practice on for the past fifteen years. So for me this kit is going to be a huge step forward in terms of being able to practice at home and being able to use it for band rehearsals. I perform live maybe once every two years, for me it's just a hobby but hopefully with the TD-17KVX I will get my groove down and my rudiments to a decent level. I can hardly sleep, so excited!
The only extra option I would like to buy is an additional (ride) cymbal. My question to you guys is this: is it possible (advisable) to use a Yamaha PCY135 with the TD-17? I know it won't work as a 3-zone cymbal, but will it work well as a 2-zone cymbal? Can anyone comment on that from experience? I would even like to get the PCY155 as a ride, but then I would not be able to use the cup. I'm not sure what to do. Any advice is appreciated!
I dont think Yamaha cymbals work. Different piezo set-up. A cy-15 would be nice. You can get a used one around $200-$250.
I just figured out how to set the independent high-hat pedal to a Bass Kick note instead, while still being able to play the edge of the high hat.
It doesn't control velocity or volume nearly as good, but with some fine tuning and careful playing you can get your two kick sounds to be pretty close.
That's a great review man. Nice job.
Can you still buy boom arms for them?
Some of the peeves I've experienced from the TD-17kvx are;
-Bass drum pad wobbles too much for me, especially using double-kick. On my Trick pedal I had to adjust the beater adjustment because the shaft was hitting the outer bank (rim ring) a lot.
-The "span" of the rack is too narrow in relations to placing the Hi-Hat stand; makes it hard to find a comfortable place to mount the module within quick reach. Even if you mount the module attachment arm using the other configuration.
-The cymbal nuts on all cymbal arms loosens within short time.
Yes it doesn't have "dedicated knobs, for Aux in volume". However It does have the option (at least mine does) to turn up the "Gains" for Audio IN, Click, Songs, etc... Within the "Mix Vol" when you are in "Drum Kit" function/mode. I guess I'm just at that point of "moving-up" to a more advance set, which in reality means = $$$$.
I bought mine in December 2018 (4 months ago) and it did ship with boom arms for the cymbals. I see your comment at ~4:10 of this video says that they took them away. That information appears to either be inaccurate, or perhaps they re-introduced them to the kit because mine definitely has them.
Hey...I'm upgrading from my first kit, the pos Alesis 7dmx, so I know I'm going to be over the moon with the Roland. Should have it next week and can't wait!
Have you had lots of time to try it? Haha
@@sleepteam Playing it every day.
Nice kit. A couple things bother me though: the small floor tom pad, the small display, no faders. As I will be primarily using the MIDI function into the computer & VST, internal sounds don't matter that much. The Simmons SD1250 is looking very good to me as well. The extra floor tom and bigger pads, the sturdy metal hex rack and brackets, the bigger display and faders on the brain, the looks of the drum shells. I can get a used Roland TD17KVX used for $1400. At roughly the same price after tax for the new Simmons, is the quality of this Roland set that much better?
Hi Justin…Love your channel. Please keep up the good work. Got a question for you: Do you know if the Roland PD-140DS snare is compatible with the TD17 module? Thanks!
Hey John sorry to say it is not compatible. Only on the TD27 and 50 at the moment
Nice review. I agree - a 10” Floor Tom would have been appropriate.
The two 8” Toms are fine and the 12” Snare is great, but the 8” Floor Tom is just a tad small.