He’s the only one who went all in on E-drums. Been following since I was researching my 2-Box back in 2015. Have been coming back now that others are using that layered technology better and I’m looking to upgrade.
@@jesseondrumsjd yeah same. In fact I'm still using my 2-Box mark 1 all those years later! What do you want to upgrade to and what sort of kit are you using with it?
After reviewing drum kits through other channels for a potential Holiday gift, it’s clear that you’re providing a more honest assessment than most other content creators. Keep up the good work - and thanks to you I’ll be buying our first family kit this year!! 🎉
1 year ago I bought the td-17kvx2. It was my very first drum set. I love it. I did change out the rack, picked up a lemon splash and bought a bigger floor tom. I'll jam on this sucker for years to come
@@plazima I bought a used one on reverb and even kept a few parts of the original rack to make it bigger. I know the ekits aren't cheap but a td-17kvx2 isn't bad compared to some models. Look at the newest Roland kit. It's 9,000 dollars!! That's nuts
I took delivery of the TD-716 on Monday (stepping up from TD27kv2) and I couldn't be happier. RUclips content cannot get across how great it feels to play and the Roland kits sound and perform way better than the 27kv2, night and day difference in fact...I haven't even got to the DWe kits yet as I'm enjoying these ones so so much. In short I don't have buyers remorse. It's a huge chunk of change for sure, but if you want the best you have to pay for it I guess. In my opinion, if you want a non VST powered setup and don't care about touch screens, there is nothing else out there even close at this point in time. Thanks for all your hard work in the eDrum world, Justin.
Great video. I purchased a VAD-507 set almost 2 years ago and love it. First foray into edrums was an Alesis Command X set but the cymbal pads were failing in the first year. To the credit of Alesis they did send me 3 free replacements but the Roland has been solid with no indication of wear or tear in almost 2 years.
Currently have and play my TD-17KVX2 daily. It really is a workhorse kit that falls into a good price range. I strongly agree with the statement "this one just works". It does. You can certainly go to another brand and get something a bit more flashy but if reliability is important to you then you cannot do better than this kit for the price. Additionally, Roland kits hold their value very well. If you want to upgrade down the road you can always sell it and expect to make 70% of what you paid for it back (at least if you haven't beaten it to hell lol)
the used market in my area TD9's pop often anywhere from $350-$600 depending on upgrades or rubber pads vs mesh. excellent choice for a used one if you are on a budget, the build and sound quality is far better than any new Alesis nitros. asking price for td11 and td15 are between $800-$1400 but much harder to find. td30 module alone can be up to $1400, i hope one day to get my hands on it to upgrade my td25. great reviews Justin!
Nice review..Still playn n loving my yam dtx3.extreme. blk pads..got brand new 07..2sat spkrs n roland bottom...$3600..b 69yo soon.started beatles edsull...still hav 68 marine pearl luds...i just wannabangonmydrumallday
Hey Justin. Thanks for your vids. I’m on the verge of buying the Alesis Strata Prime… Just waiting for your follow up to this video (already watched the others 😅)
I agree with you on the "next on the chopping block" being the td17. I've got one, and I updated it, but even still, it's showing it's age for sure. Fortunately, I only use it as a midi over usb interface to StudioOne, and SD3. Recently I moved, and my studioi situation is a little unfinished currently, so if I play right now, it has to be straight td17 stand alone, and OH MY GOSH, I cannot believe the difference! It took me FOREVER to finally get serious about Superior Drummer 3, after not liking SD2 or EZdrummer 2 or 3 at all. I kept telling my recording buddies that I just thought my kits on the module sounded better. I had invested HUNDREDS of hours perfecting them afterall. I had a good warm snare on, and snare off kit, a good "thud" kit, an amazing percussion kit "basically as close to Danny Carey's typical sound as I could get. Real tricky playing that one, and not miss hitting the 2 or 3 layers on the rims lol" and a solid metal kit. Holy crap to my ears now, they sound like somehing a 4yo made on a 1986 casio 29 key "digital synthesizer" lol. Like old polyphonic ringtone generators or something. Just horrible! But I mean, what did I expect? My SD3 sound catalog is nearly a TB, with all the expansions I've gotten over the years, plus the probably 1,000+ plugins I've absolutely legally purchased, duh! I will say this though, going back has made me reevaluate my sound, and since the update, the module is much more functional "I think, it's honestly been sevreal years since I've even used any features on either firmware version" and it does seem to perform a little faster, but is still pretty slow tbr. Ok, have a good one fellow drum addicts, and you too Mr. Mysourceforedumnews! I've been outta the mix for a while, and have 100% totally missed the launch of a new Roland module, and snare drum!! I'm kinda surprised at that happening so soon, given the 50x came just a couple years ago, but nope, here it is, and I'm just hearing about it, on this video! So, time to go see what's up! Oh, and I am looking to update my td17kv kit, with several add on upgrades, to the td27kv2, seems like a pretty solid deal, for a decade long use kit. Hopefully it comes with regular style hooped heads, and not those garbage proprietary "not for me though" $60 replacement head/rim combo price gouging pos's
I went from the TD17KVX to the TD27 and all 3 digital pieces of hardware and it's a WORLD of difference !!!!!! Especially the snare !!!!! But definitely the hi hats and ride too. I still have my TD-17 for extra cymbals and stuff, so it was WAY worth it for a crazy large set !!!! Good luck !!!! Have a great day !!!!! :-)
Been watching your videos for the past few weeks, trying to pick out a kit for my 12 year old who has been having lessons at school for the past 18 months - we decided he's shown enough commitment to spend the money. I was originally looking at the Alesis Nitro Max, but your recommendations steered me to spend a few extra £100 on a Roland kit instead. I managed to get hold of a (barely) used TD-07KVX including kick-pedal, throne and hi-hat stand for £500, which I think was a pretty good deal (it looks like the KVX has been discontinued over here, but the DMK sells new for ~£550-£600 and the KV for ~£800, and that's for just the kit). As far as I can tell, it's essentially the exact same kit as the TD-17KVX, just with the TD-07 module, so if he sticks it out, I can get a TD-17 module for ~£350-400, sell the TD-07 module for £150-200, and end up with a TD-17KVX for ~£700 which seems a steal really! Does that seem like a decent upgrade, or would you suggest a different module if I was planning to upgrade it anyway?
I feel so happy when parents actually take effort in understanding the intricacies of their children's hobbies. I'd be hard pressed to find a parent who would know the difference between a TD07 and TD17, let alone one who would care about it! It's usually, look kid, here's a budget of $500 for Christmas, when you've made up your mind, let's go to the store and get you your thing.
I'm going to only speak of Roland sets to stick with the theme here. I've been playing drums for a long time...decades, and I think if anyone is a seasoned drummer, you'll want the digital 3 pieces of hardware. The digital: snare, hi-hat and ride cymbal. I first got the TD-17KVX and I just wasn't satisfied with the action and playability of the snare especially. So I invested slowly and got the TD27 and the digital snare, and it was a WORLD of a difference !!!!! Then I got the digital hi-hats and ride, and they were equally as great ! Only the TD27, TD50 & V71 modules have inputs for the 3 digital pieces of hardware. But if your just starting off, the TD-17 really is a great set, and sounds amazing, and does trigger very well. It just doesn't have the positional sensing for more intricate playing. When you get better you might want to upgrade, but a beginner will learn just fine on the TD17 and it'll be a KILLER set for a very long time. But if you don't have much money, most of Rolands old kits are still very good. The TD 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 ,12 & 15, all have great triggering and sound good. I have the TD6 module, and I still love to play it because it has all the crazy sounds in it, and it's one of the modules that has the most sounds available. Bass lines on the kick drum, animal noises... Etc etc etc....lol.... and just a lot of fun stuff that keeps yer imagination going. And, even though it's from the early 2000's, it has really decent sounds, and you'll find an entire TD-6 set for $300 and usually it's upgraded with all mesh pads on ebay or reverb. I'd take the TD-6 over the TD-02 because there's so much more on the TD-6 module, and it's way cheaper and.....ehhh, ALMOST, sounds just as good, definitely good enough for a beginner for sure. The TD-02 does sound very good though, but it's very limited and costs way more. But that's my 2 cents. Go scout out a cheap used set on ebay...Etc...watch videos on the sounds, once your sure it sounds good enough, then bid on it, and you'll more then likely be pretty happy after you get it. Or go to a local music store like Music Go Round that usually has a few of them. That way you can inspect, before you buy. Bring a good set of headphones, but usually they'll have an ok pair there set up. You'll more then likely find a great deal out there at this point, because people are getting rid of their old sets because of all the new ones coming out, and they're better at playing the drums now too, and want these new upgrades that are coming out like wildfire. Happy hunting !!!! :-) Ps. If I was super rich, I'd definitely get the V71 module and snare !!!!! I wish....lol But the TD27 is still wicked good !!!! So I'm satisfied !!! Thanks Justin for another great video !!!! Have a great day all !!!! 👍😁👍
Great review as always J! Whilst I like Roland products, I can't help but think you get better bang for you hard earned cash than buying the eFnote 3x. The TD713 is the equivalent to the 3x (sans snare shell) and is half the price. TD713 - $6399.99, eFnote 3x - 2899.00. Both prices are from eDrum Centre
I think TD27kv2 is best value per dollar available in the edrum world right now. Especially if you plan to use with VST (which you should). Digital where its most important.
How about a VQD106 combined with a TD-27KV2 module and a great quality double bass pedal, would you recommend that ? I need extra quietness with a great sound like a TD-27KV2.. Money is not an issue.
I made a video about Yamaha’s edrum line in 2022, and because they haven’t released any new drum sets since it’s still all the way up-to-date unfortunately: ruclips.net/video/1zG1HcBeLGw/видео.html
My recommendation is, get a TD17 KV and add a hi-hat sensor + stand. (sensor 40 USD, stand starts from 30 USD, both new). The right path is then adding a ride cymbal and a Toontrack library. You'll get better sound even surpassing the top of the line Module. Real hihat that goes up and down, real drum bass mechanic and a bell for the ride. Also MIDI out to add any audio interface (Roland module as midi out is not the best option). I move superior drummer with and old AllInOne HP PC with 8gb of ram with no issues. The rest are myths.
That's exactly what I needed. Thanks a lot! Very clear. Yet I'm not totally sure what to get. I'm a total beginner... like I've got 5 lessons of drums (at the age of 44 with nor previous experience with drums, only amateur guitar). I can economically afford any set, but I'm not willing to waste money on something professional when I'm probably never going to reach a good level. After 1-2 months of getting informed I was aiming at the TD-07 KVX or the TD-17 KVX... Over here in europe I can find them for about 1300 and 1700 euros respectively. I must say I like the aestetics of the VAD307 too, but that's 2500 euros... not sure it would make sense. Any good option with other brands that either give me better quality at similar prices or similar quality at lower prices? Thanks
So... I've never drummed before, but want to try. I suppose it goes without saying that I should get the TD-07DMK. However, if I wind up liking drums and being halfway decent at it, am I going to have buyer's remorse 2 months down the road? Wondering if I should go straight to $1500/1800 range
Love the quality of Roland drums. The prices not so much. If you're buying new I think Alesis is a much better value. Having said that I really don't use most the functions offered on these kits. I'm not recording with them. I'm not gigging with them. Don't feel the need to buy additional software/premium drum sounds. I just need something to play/practice at home that sounds decent and is not a toy.
The names are nonsense right now because they are in a weird transition phase. Eventually all their kits will stop using K/KV/KVX/DMK, and will switch to using 3 numbers instead. The TD716 was the first kit under the new system. Until all the pre-2024 kits get replaced, we'll have this weird mess of names.
What kit for about 500 - 700 with great sounds for beginner and older drummer to learn and play with Thanks Any Maker even though I always heard Roland has the Best Sounds
HELP! Costco has the TD-07KX on sale for $999. Is that a better overall bargain than the TD-17KV2? Better module and cymbals on the TD-17 but the other gives you a high hat on a stand and an extra cymbal and they’re larger. Not gigging just playing at home. Thoughts?
The alesis one sold be done tomorrow, and the Yamaha one I did awhile back is still current (no new kits to make that video out of date). The one that won’t be done before Black Friday will be EFNOTE unfortunately.
Any recommendations on a first kit for a 14 year old metal fan? I'm inclined to go Roland due to quality, I've tried one of their flagship kits and I get discounts.
Did you get to play the TD716? I find the new fancy looking tom pads are actually quite nice, the rim triggers function different to the VAD716 toms. I only had a short go so not 100% sure if that was just my experience or not.
@@TheNextThing Congrats! I have a VAD706 already and obviously the VAD716 has the same toms, TD716 toms are definitely superior specifically due to the rims. They 100% trigger better from what I experienced! Makes sense since they're completely new compared to the VAD706 toms.
@@TheNextThing Think I explained myself badly, I'm saying the TD716 has SUPERIOR triggering, aka it's better than the VAD716 toms :D you definitely will not regret this purchase, not even a 0.1% chance of that lol
Ah ok thanks, I bought a VAD706 for my son for Xmas. Hopefully I'll still be able to get parts if something breaks. Keep up the good work on the vids! Only channel I watch for drum reviews 🤘
@ I did some digging and thought that to be the case - you beat me back here before I could delete that comment and save myself, haha. Thank you for the reply!!
Realistically, who is actually biying the 8k and above kit? Home aound atudio use only? Seema the EFNote with an upgraded module would be best? Thanks.
Whos buying flagship edrums? Well as an example, it would be like asking who buys $150,000 cars when a Toyota works just as well. Most people aren't buying flagship drums, it's just for the people that have the money and want it that bad
@@trevorsouza4496 I'm restoring a 2004 Pintech Tour Elite 6 piece kit at the moment with new lugs,rods,heads,electronics, and washing/cleaning each one by hand. I'll be using them with the TD-30 module I just bought for $1,200 on Reverb. I'm pairing this kit with custom Pintech Opaque white Visualites and this kit should be finished within 2 weeks. I've had many kits over the years, built my own out of Acoustic, bought off the shelf brands, and then some. I LOVE the TD-30, and Justin has a few videos on it since he always owns a TD-30. if you're on a budget the TD-30 isnt' for you as used it can be as much as $1700, as little as $1k USD just for the module.:) Justin has a TON of videos on affordable ekits etc. in MANY budgets and several brands. Just search his channel! Cheers!
I can't believe that you're suggesting these kits which I tried in the shop and didn't like the sounds at all. They all sound like a synth, there are better brand options at less than Roland's premium prices. I went for Pearl e/merge hybrid kit instead of the Roland VAD 504 only for better playability and better sounds, for a lower price. I also added an extra mesh pad and two cymbals off my older Alesis kit and they work flawlessly with the Pearl module. I tried a lot to get the Roland hi-hats play naturally, playing with the configuration in the different modules, on two different hi-end Roland kits, to no avail.
I'll save you the time right now if you want an electric drum kit buy a cheap acoustic kit and buy drum triggers Jobeky or drum Tec and you'll be able to make a kit that' I'm telling you much better price wise
So in 2024, roland finally makes a module that you don't need to plug in to a vst so you can just plug n play when jamming or practicing; and it costs $6,400 for the small pad based kit that it comes with. What an absolute fkn joke.
Is Roland even in the running anymore? There are a ton of choices with better options for much cheaper. It just seems like you're paying for the name at this point and not the technology.
To be fair, Roland parts is always durable, I saw someone using same TD01 kit for anime drum cover for 6 years straight. As well, digital stuff always be praised by people
@@_InTheBin That's what I've been using for almost 20 years now except I've replaced the rubber toms with 3 mesh toms, added a 16" ride cymbal, and a hi hat controller with stand. I'm also using BFD and other VSTi plugins instead of the TD-4. That being said, It's hardly a "monster" dude. Even after my upgrades. I've played many other e-Kits and a lot of them are light years better. The bang for the buck factor with Roland is low. The high-end Roland kits are great and they were the king 20 years ago when I bought my kit but, you can get a much better kit for half the price from other companies nowadays.
😂9k for an electric kit is outrageous for that price you could get a DW collectors with 5 shells with Hardware included with top of the line cymbals I mean I'm talking a studio quality drum kit😂 Roland should be ashamed of themselves Sweetwater's got a deal right now for a DW kit that literally comes with all the bells and whistles and it's a collector's kit literally it comes with everything drum cymbals the cymbal stands hi hat stand kick pedal Zildjian cymbals.
This dude just called me broke for 15 mins straight 😢
LITERALLY 😂😂😂. Like damn.. the last kit he showed looks killerrrrr.
Who also loves Justin's reviews!?
He and eDrum Workshop are the best in the biz!
@@Acoustic2Electronicwas gonna shout out to edrumworkshop myself.
Your sister
He’s the only one who went all in on E-drums. Been following since I was researching my 2-Box back in 2015. Have been coming back now that others are using that layered technology better and I’m looking to upgrade.
@@jesseondrumsjd yeah same. In fact I'm still using my 2-Box mark 1 all those years later! What do you want to upgrade to and what sort of kit are you using with it?
After reviewing drum kits through other channels for a potential Holiday gift, it’s clear that you’re providing a more honest assessment than most other content creators. Keep up the good work - and thanks to you I’ll be buying our first family kit this year!! 🎉
Wow. That's a chore! Lots to go through. You deserve a medal or something.
1 year ago I bought the td-17kvx2. It was my very first drum set. I love it. I did change out the rack, picked up a lemon splash and bought a bigger floor tom. I'll jam on this sucker for years to come
I don’t have the balls to switch a rack on such a expensive kit
@@plazima I bought a used one on reverb and even kept a few parts of the original rack to make it bigger. I know the ekits aren't cheap but a td-17kvx2 isn't bad compared to some models. Look at the newest Roland kit. It's 9,000 dollars!! That's nuts
Nice review!!! Thank you. I own a TD-17kvx2 for 2 years now, and I'm pretty happy with it.
I took delivery of the TD-716 on Monday (stepping up from TD27kv2) and I couldn't be happier. RUclips content cannot get across how great it feels to play and the Roland kits sound and perform way better than the 27kv2, night and day difference in fact...I haven't even got to the DWe kits yet as I'm enjoying these ones so so much. In short I don't have buyers remorse. It's a huge chunk of change for sure, but if you want the best you have to pay for it I guess.
In my opinion, if you want a non VST powered setup and don't care about touch screens, there is nothing else out there even close at this point in time.
Thanks for all your hard work in the eDrum world, Justin.
I agree with your take and got the TD-27KV2. It's a joy to play and perfect for my needs.
Great video. I purchased a VAD-507 set almost 2 years ago and love it. First foray into edrums was an Alesis Command X set but the cymbal pads were failing in the first year. To the credit of Alesis they did send me 3 free replacements but the Roland has been solid with no indication of wear or tear in almost 2 years.
You are a gem to people getting into drumming
the TD-27 KV2 is my fav for the price also, not $3,500 but the sale price of $3k makes the most sense to me!!
Currently have and play my TD-17KVX2 daily. It really is a workhorse kit that falls into a good price range. I strongly agree with the statement "this one just works". It does. You can certainly go to another brand and get something a bit more flashy but if reliability is important to you then you cannot do better than this kit for the price.
Additionally, Roland kits hold their value very well. If you want to upgrade down the road you can always sell it and expect to make 70% of what you paid for it back (at least if you haven't beaten it to hell lol)
i picked up the td27Kv2 and it hasnt dissapointed. amazing module and all the digital stuff feels like a huge bonus. so happy. thanks for the advice.
Same here! I love it
Thanks for your videos. Really helped me wade through all the choices and make a decision .
Loving my TD27-KV2. Great to learn on.
i bought the TD-07KVX in march 2024 and wow, sweet spot as Justin says. I am very happy with it.
Thank you for updating! Just in time for Black Friday 🙏
Great review, as usual. Thank you!
the used market in my area TD9's pop often anywhere from $350-$600 depending on upgrades or rubber pads vs mesh. excellent choice for a used one if you are on a budget, the build and sound quality is far better than any new Alesis nitros. asking price for td11 and td15 are between $800-$1400 but much harder to find. td30 module alone can be up to $1400, i hope one day to get my hands on it to upgrade my td25. great reviews Justin!
Cool video, I'm really curious about the v31 and v51 modules and kits in the future.
Just in time for Xmas! Nice rundown.🎄
Got a Frankenstein kit and I love it
Nice review..Still playn n loving my yam dtx3.extreme. blk pads..got brand new 07..2sat spkrs n roland bottom...$3600..b 69yo soon.started beatles edsull...still hav 68 marine pearl luds...i just wannabangonmydrumallday
I bought the VAD307 a year ago and love it!
Hey Justin. Thanks for your vids. I’m on the verge of buying the Alesis Strata Prime… Just waiting for your follow up to this video (already watched the others 😅)
Still Love my TD27-KV after 4 years (2020) . Perfect size and real drum feel. I believe the only difference now is the digital hi-hats.
Loving the regular doses of Justin from 65 drums
Our church has been going back and forth between a Roland VAD3- or VAD5-, Efnote 5, or Alesis Strata Core. The $2K-4K price range has SO many options!
The best reviewer on RUclips hands down.
What is misleading is that all those photos of kits include pedals and none of those ship with either bas pedal or hi hat stand.
I agree with you on the "next on the chopping block" being the td17. I've got one, and I updated it, but even still, it's showing it's age for sure. Fortunately, I only use it as a midi over usb interface to StudioOne, and SD3. Recently I moved, and my studioi situation is a little unfinished currently, so if I play right now, it has to be straight td17 stand alone, and OH MY GOSH, I cannot believe the difference! It took me FOREVER to finally get serious about Superior Drummer 3, after not liking SD2 or EZdrummer 2 or 3 at all. I kept telling my recording buddies that I just thought my kits on the module sounded better. I had invested HUNDREDS of hours perfecting them afterall. I had a good warm snare on, and snare off kit, a good "thud" kit, an amazing percussion kit "basically as close to Danny Carey's typical sound as I could get. Real tricky playing that one, and not miss hitting the 2 or 3 layers on the rims lol" and a solid metal kit. Holy crap to my ears now, they sound like somehing a 4yo made on a 1986 casio 29 key "digital synthesizer" lol. Like old polyphonic ringtone generators or something. Just horrible! But I mean, what did I expect? My SD3 sound catalog is nearly a TB, with all the expansions I've gotten over the years, plus the probably 1,000+ plugins I've absolutely legally purchased, duh! I will say this though, going back has made me reevaluate my sound, and since the update, the module is much more functional "I think, it's honestly been sevreal years since I've even used any features on either firmware version" and it does seem to perform a little faster, but is still pretty slow tbr. Ok, have a good one fellow drum addicts, and you too Mr. Mysourceforedumnews! I've been outta the mix for a while, and have 100% totally missed the launch of a new Roland module, and snare drum!! I'm kinda surprised at that happening so soon, given the 50x came just a couple years ago, but nope, here it is, and I'm just hearing about it, on this video! So, time to go see what's up! Oh, and I am looking to update my td17kv kit, with several add on upgrades, to the td27kv2, seems like a pretty solid deal, for a decade long use kit. Hopefully it comes with regular style hooped heads, and not those garbage proprietary "not for me though" $60 replacement head/rim combo price gouging pos's
I went from the TD17KVX to the TD27 and all 3 digital pieces of hardware and it's a WORLD of difference !!!!!!
Especially the snare !!!!!
But definitely the hi hats and ride too.
I still have my TD-17 for extra cymbals and stuff, so it was WAY worth it for a crazy large set !!!!
Good luck !!!!
Have a great day !!!!!
:-)
Hope you're doing well 65 drums great video 👍 creator
Been watching your videos for the past few weeks, trying to pick out a kit for my 12 year old who has been having lessons at school for the past 18 months - we decided he's shown enough commitment to spend the money.
I was originally looking at the Alesis Nitro Max, but your recommendations steered me to spend a few extra £100 on a Roland kit instead.
I managed to get hold of a (barely) used TD-07KVX including kick-pedal, throne and hi-hat stand for £500, which I think was a pretty good deal (it looks like the KVX has been discontinued over here, but the DMK sells new for ~£550-£600 and the KV for ~£800, and that's for just the kit).
As far as I can tell, it's essentially the exact same kit as the TD-17KVX, just with the TD-07 module, so if he sticks it out, I can get a TD-17 module for ~£350-400, sell the TD-07 module for £150-200, and end up with a TD-17KVX for ~£700 which seems a steal really!
Does that seem like a decent upgrade, or would you suggest a different module if I was planning to upgrade it anyway?
I feel so happy when parents actually take effort in understanding the intricacies of their children's hobbies. I'd be hard pressed to find a parent who would know the difference between a TD07 and TD17, let alone one who would care about it! It's usually, look kid, here's a budget of $500 for Christmas, when you've made up your mind, let's go to the store and get you your thing.
Very thorough review Justin! Roland has a great lineup. 🥁
I'm waiting on my V-71 Module on backorder.
Interesting I thought they would have caught up on those units by now
I ordered from Guitar Center
@@youngguns996 That's even more strange, such a big store doesn't have any modules in stock
I agree! They tell me it should be available around mid-December
@@65Drums My V-71 Finally arrived, I also purchased the new Roland PD-14DSX V-Drums Digital Snare. Loving them so far, both are Amazing.
I would love to see a TD-27KV2 update with a better kick pad!
I expect the next version to have the new KD12 pad. No idea when that will happen though
Yes another great video Ty
I'm going to only speak of Roland sets to stick with the theme here.
I've been playing drums for a long time...decades, and I think if anyone is a seasoned drummer, you'll want the digital 3 pieces of hardware.
The digital: snare, hi-hat and ride cymbal.
I first got the TD-17KVX and I just wasn't satisfied with the action and playability of the snare especially.
So I invested slowly and got the TD27 and the digital snare, and it was a WORLD of a difference !!!!!
Then I got the digital hi-hats and ride, and they were equally as great !
Only the TD27, TD50 & V71 modules have inputs for the 3 digital pieces of hardware.
But if your just starting off, the TD-17 really is a great set, and sounds amazing, and does trigger very well.
It just doesn't have the positional sensing for more intricate playing.
When you get better you might want to upgrade, but a beginner will learn just fine on the TD17 and it'll be a KILLER set for a very long time.
But if you don't have much money, most of Rolands old kits are still very good.
The TD 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 ,12 & 15, all have great triggering and sound good.
I have the TD6 module, and I still love to play it because it has all the crazy sounds in it, and it's one of the modules that has the most sounds available.
Bass lines on the kick drum, animal noises... Etc etc etc....lol.... and just a lot of fun stuff that keeps yer imagination going.
And, even though it's from the early 2000's, it has really decent sounds, and you'll find an entire TD-6 set for $300 and usually it's upgraded with all mesh pads on ebay or reverb.
I'd take the TD-6 over the TD-02 because there's so much more on the TD-6 module, and it's way cheaper and.....ehhh, ALMOST, sounds just as good, definitely good enough for a beginner for sure.
The TD-02 does sound very good though, but it's very limited and costs way more.
But that's my 2 cents.
Go scout out a cheap used set on ebay...Etc...watch videos on the sounds, once your sure it sounds good enough, then bid on it, and you'll more then likely be pretty happy after you get it.
Or go to a local music store like Music Go Round that usually has a few of them.
That way you can inspect, before you buy.
Bring a good set of headphones, but usually they'll have an ok pair there set up.
You'll more then likely find a great deal out there at this point, because people are getting rid of their old sets because of all the new ones coming out, and they're better at playing the drums now too, and want these new upgrades that are coming out like wildfire.
Happy hunting !!!!
:-)
Ps. If I was super rich, I'd definitely get the V71 module and snare !!!!!
I wish....lol
But the TD27 is still wicked good !!!!
So I'm satisfied !!!
Thanks Justin for another great video !!!!
Have a great day all !!!!
👍😁👍
I agree 100% with the TD27 for experienced
Players!
Hey Justin! Have you seen the new Simmons MC cymbals? I'd love to know your opinion on them when you get time.
Great review as always J!
Whilst I like Roland products, I can't help but think you get better bang for you hard earned cash than buying the eFnote 3x. The TD713 is the equivalent to the 3x (sans snare shell) and is half the price. TD713 - $6399.99, eFnote 3x - 2899.00. Both prices are from eDrum Centre
Efnote all day. Had mine almost 3 years and got to play the 713 3 times now. It’s cool but you just can’t beat the feel and pure tone of the 3x
I don't care if the VAD-307 isn't worth a lot that shit looks so gahdamn beautiful. Might have to cop when I get the money one day
This (as with all your videos) was well researched and put together! Cheers!\
I think TD27kv2 is best value per dollar available in the edrum world right now. Especially if you plan to use with VST (which you should). Digital where its most important.
Justin the "Sam Sulek" of electronic drums!💪🥁
I would love a 8” Tom and a couple of different looking cymbals…
How about a VQD106 combined with a TD-27KV2 module and a great quality double bass pedal, would you recommend that ? I need extra quietness with a great sound like a TD-27KV2.. Money is not an issue.
I want to incorporate electronic drums into my acoustic drum kits
Looking forward to the Yamaha video because the compatibility of pads and modules is confusing. Especially the EAD10 and TCS pads
I made a video about Yamaha’s edrum line in 2022, and because they haven’t released any new drum sets since it’s still all the way up-to-date unfortunately:
ruclips.net/video/1zG1HcBeLGw/видео.html
I got the 15 and it looks a lot better than some of the higher number sets...
My recommendation is, get a TD17 KV and add a hi-hat sensor + stand. (sensor 40 USD, stand starts from 30 USD, both new). The right path is then adding a ride cymbal and a Toontrack library. You'll get better sound even surpassing the top of the line Module. Real hihat that goes up and down, real drum bass mechanic and a bell for the ride. Also MIDI out to add any audio interface (Roland module as midi out is not the best option). I move superior drummer with and old AllInOne HP PC with 8gb of ram with no issues. The rest are myths.
That's exactly what I needed. Thanks a lot! Very clear.
Yet I'm not totally sure what to get.
I'm a total beginner... like I've got 5 lessons of drums (at the age of 44 with nor previous experience with drums, only amateur guitar). I can economically afford any set, but I'm not willing to waste money on something professional when I'm probably never going to reach a good level.
After 1-2 months of getting informed I was aiming at the TD-07 KVX or the TD-17 KVX... Over here in europe I can find them for about 1300 and 1700 euros respectively.
I must say I like the aestetics of the VAD307 too, but that's 2500 euros... not sure it would make sense.
Any good option with other brands that either give me better quality at similar prices or similar quality at lower prices?
Thanks
would you say the td 17 kvx2 is better than the efnote 3b?
So... I've never drummed before, but want to try. I suppose it goes without saying that I should get the TD-07DMK. However, if I wind up liking drums and being halfway decent at it, am I going to have buyer's remorse 2 months down the road? Wondering if I should go straight to $1500/1800 range
Love the quality of Roland drums. The prices not so much. If you're buying new I think Alesis is a much better value. Having said that I really don't use most the functions offered on these kits. I'm not recording with them. I'm not gigging with them. Don't feel the need to buy additional software/premium drum sounds. I just need something to play/practice at home that sounds decent and is not a toy.
Aren't the VAD style kits easier to transport, since there are a bunch of separate parts and you don't have the huge rack to deal with?
Their naming methods/nomenclature is getting out of hand. What happened? LOL. Great video!
It's total nonsense at this point.
The names are nonsense right now because they are in a weird transition phase. Eventually all their kits will stop using K/KV/KVX/DMK, and will switch to using 3 numbers instead. The TD716 was the first kit under the new system. Until all the pre-2024 kits get replaced, we'll have this weird mess of names.
What kit for about 500 - 700 with great sounds for beginner and older drummer to learn and play with Thanks Any Maker even though I always heard Roland has the Best Sounds
HELP! Costco has the TD-07KX on sale for $999. Is that a better overall bargain than the TD-17KV2? Better module and cymbals on the TD-17 but the other gives you a high hat on a stand and an extra cymbal and they’re larger. Not gigging just playing at home. Thoughts?
can you do every kick pedal worth buying?
please make an Alesis video like this one
So needless to say the tdkvx2 and the td27 2 would be the best to buy?
So you said the toms on the td27 kv2 can do positional sensing, would that mean the module can’t or you can?
only wish was that the full series was made available prior to black friday
The alesis one sold be done tomorrow, and the Yamaha one I did awhile back is still current (no new kits to make that video out of date). The one that won’t be done before Black Friday will be EFNOTE unfortunately.
what bout 8 tom for the acoustic editions, china cymbal and new splashes ? any news?
Any recommendations on a first kit for a 14 year old metal fan? I'm inclined to go Roland due to quality, I've tried one of their flagship kits and I get discounts.
Try alesis next, their mid tier kits got an upgrade
I have yet to see any reviews come out about the Alesis Crimson III which I am curious about
Roland's kit naming system sure doesn't make things easy to remember or compare! How do you keep this alphabet soup naming system straight?
Did you get to play the TD716? I find the new fancy looking tom pads are actually quite nice, the rim triggers function different to the VAD716 toms. I only had a short go so not 100% sure if that was just my experience or not.
I haven't found a store with one yet, just the VAD716 so far. I'd like to play one though
One difference with the TD716 is it has die cast rims. I have one on back order. I’m so stoked!
@@TheNextThing Congrats! I have a VAD706 already and obviously the VAD716 has the same toms, TD716 toms are definitely superior specifically due to the rims. They 100% trigger better from what I experienced! Makes sense since they're completely new compared to the VAD706 toms.
@@Zursen Thanks! Good to know. I bought it without having tried it out. :/. I doubt I’ll regret it though.
@@TheNextThing Think I explained myself badly, I'm saying the TD716 has SUPERIOR triggering, aka it's better than the VAD716 toms :D you definitely will not regret this purchase, not even a 0.1% chance of that lol
Life is too short.
Let's all get the ROLAND VAD716
I thought Roland bought DW for there wireless technology.Are any of these kits wireless????
Could you possibly do a rundown of all starter e-drums In 2025? I’m looking to buy one but I have no clue which
TD-17KV2
Why didn't you look at the VAD 706?
That drumset is discontinued. It's been replaced by the VAD716
Ah ok thanks, I bought a VAD706 for my son for Xmas. Hopefully I'll still be able to get parts if something breaks. Keep up the good work on the vids! Only channel I watch for drum reviews 🤘
Genuine question - did the video skip over the Roland TD-11k intentionally? What’s the deal with that kit?
Bro the TD11 line is from 2012. They stopped selling them many years ago. The TD17 line replaced it
@ I did some digging and thought that to be the case - you beat me back here before I could delete that comment and save myself, haha. Thank you for the reply!!
Never clicked on a video so fast
How is the KD-12 kick vs KD-10 ??
The KD12 is heavier (which is a positive for feel) and it looks nicer. But they both do the same thing, the difference isn't massive.
Just curious, where would you rank the alesis strata core to the td 17 and the td 27?
The core version has module firmware problems, so I'd avoid it completely until they fix it with a software update
Realistically, who is actually biying the 8k and above kit? Home aound atudio use only?
Seema the EFNote with an upgraded module would be best?
Thanks.
Whos buying flagship edrums? Well as an example, it would be like asking who buys $150,000 cars when a Toyota works just as well. Most people aren't buying flagship drums, it's just for the people that have the money and want it that bad
Is it reasonable to upgrade my vad 507 with a v71 module, even if I only use superior drummer?
A used 50x would suit you
just an FYI.. I had the money to buy either A TD-50x, or a TD27 module... I bought a used MINT condition TD-30. I think I'll love it.
Do you love it? I’m looking for a budget e-kit
@@trevorsouza4496 I'm restoring a 2004 Pintech Tour Elite 6 piece kit at the moment with new lugs,rods,heads,electronics, and washing/cleaning each one by hand. I'll be using them with the TD-30 module I just bought for $1,200 on Reverb. I'm pairing this kit with custom Pintech Opaque white Visualites and this kit should be finished within 2 weeks. I've had many kits over the years, built my own out of Acoustic, bought off the shelf brands, and then some. I LOVE the TD-30, and Justin has a few videos on it since he always owns a TD-30. if you're on a budget the TD-30 isnt' for you as used it can be as much as $1700, as little as $1k USD just for the module.:) Justin has a TON of videos on affordable ekits etc. in MANY budgets and several brands. Just search his channel! Cheers!
@@trevorsouza4496TD-30 is absolutely NOT budget. The module costs thousands lmao
@@robotman5105 good to know its not budget, could you give one that is instead of telling me I'm uninformed?
@@robotman5105 also he said he bought a kit not covered in the video, Im asking for his opinion on it, not yours
I can't believe that you're suggesting these kits which I tried in the shop and didn't like the sounds at all. They all sound like a synth, there are better brand options at less than Roland's premium prices. I went for Pearl e/merge hybrid kit instead of the Roland VAD 504 only for better playability and better sounds, for a lower price. I also added an extra mesh pad and two cymbals off my older Alesis kit and they work flawlessly with the Pearl module. I tried a lot to get the Roland hi-hats play naturally, playing with the configuration in the different modules, on two different hi-end Roland kits, to no avail.
When’s the Alesis one coming out?
I'll save you the time right now if you want an electric drum kit buy a cheap acoustic kit and buy drum triggers Jobeky or drum Tec and you'll be able to make a kit that' I'm telling you much better price wise
But what about isolation? I'm looking at an ekit because I got neighbors too close to my house. I had to put away my acoustic kit
Hi hat on a stand sucks compared to a mobile hi hat pedal. Imho
this is an unpopular opinion, but I low-key tend to agree
So in 2024, roland finally makes a module that you don't need to plug in to a vst so you can just plug n play when jamming or practicing; and it costs $6,400 for the small pad based kit that it comes with.
What an absolute fkn joke.
Is Roland even in the running anymore? There are a ton of choices with better options for much cheaper. It just seems like you're paying for the name at this point and not the technology.
To be fair, Roland parts is always durable, I saw someone using same TD01 kit for anime drum cover for 6 years straight.
As well, digital stuff always be praised by people
I've been using my TD-4 with an extra crash cymbal for 7 years now and I bought it used and haven't changed a part yet. It's a monster.
@@_InTheBin That's what I've been using for almost 20 years now except I've replaced the rubber toms with 3 mesh toms, added a 16" ride cymbal, and a hi hat controller with stand. I'm also using BFD and other VSTi plugins instead of the TD-4. That being said, It's hardly a "monster" dude. Even after my upgrades. I've played many other e-Kits and a lot of them are light years better. The bang for the buck factor with Roland is low. The high-end Roland kits are great and they were the king 20 years ago when I bought my kit but, you can get a much better kit for half the price from other companies nowadays.
😂9k for an electric kit is outrageous for that price you could get a DW collectors with 5 shells with Hardware included with top of the line cymbals I mean I'm talking a studio quality drum kit😂 Roland should be ashamed of themselves Sweetwater's got a deal right now for a DW kit that literally comes with all the bells and whistles and it's a collector's kit literally it comes with everything drum cymbals the cymbal stands hi hat stand kick pedal Zildjian cymbals.