Governments Permanently Punish People for Old Crimes
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2023
- When the government judges someone’s integrity, it should do so based on who they are today-not who they were 20 years ago. The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), however, imposes a permanent ban from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) on food retailers who have committed any offense related to alcohol, drugs, or firearms.
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Altimont Mark Wilks is one of the many entrepreneurs impacted by the USDA’s lifetime ban. Altimont served time in prison after he was arrested for dealing drugs back in 2004. By the time he came home, he was in his late 40s and wanted a fresh start. His mother, Carmen, helped him get back on his feet and fulfill his dream of owning his own business. Altimont opened a community-focused convenience store by his home in Hagerstown, Maryland, with the goal of providing affordable food to the people in his neighborhood. He named it Carmen’s Corner Store to honor his mother’s commitment and generosity.
More than one in every five households near Altimont’s Hagerstown store depends on SNAP benefits to buy their groceries. As Altimont would soon learn, though, the USDA prohibits lots of business owners with a criminal record from accepting SNAP benefits at their stores. But the USDA doesn’t just punish crimes like fraud or business-related offenses that might suggest that an owner could steal from SNAP. For some unknown reason, the USDA reserves its harshest punishment for business owners who’ve previously committed offenses related to alcohol, drugs, or firearms.
That policy prevents Altimont from ever accepting SNAP benefits at his store-something that makes it difficult for his business to compete in the market and effectively serve his community. There’s nothing Altimont could ever do in his lifetime that would convince the USDA that he is more than the mistakes he made two decades ago.
But Altimont is undeterred. With growing community support for Carmen’s Corner Store, Altimont opened a second location in Frederick, Maryland. He once again applied to be a SNAP retailer, and the USDA once again imposed a permanent ban on his new store.
This time, Altimont was ready. He teamed up with the Institute for Justice (IJ) to file a lawsuit challenging the USDA’s permanent ban in federal court. The government cannot exclude businesses from its programs for irrational reasons. Permanently banning Altimont from being a SNAP retailer doesn’t make sense-it just deprives people in his community of access to affordable groceries, which defeats the entire purpose of SNAP. That’s why Altimont and IJ are asking the court to rule that the USDA’s permanent ban is invalid. A victory will vindicate the simple truth that old and irrelevant criminal convictions should not prevent anyone from getting a fresh start.
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Depends what they did. Sex crimes will never be repayed.
If he went to prison for fraud of any kind especially food stamp or snap fraud. I find it funny how you never say what he went to prison for. You are just the kind of person that would defend why a person with a felony can not vote. Well guess what. when you commit a FELONY you don't get to do the privileges that LAW ABIDING CITIZENS get. You people forfeited that when you committed a FELONY. Also your feed needs to be shut down. For supporting known criminals. Even worse then that. you support know FELONS!!!
Pre-Covid, they were saying that 70% of all money passed through small businesses.
Nobody says that anymore, do they?
The Leftists Establishment offers only 2 choices; enslavement or death.
@@MyFriendlyPup depends. There are a few acts that can't be undone and probably should demand a very very serious penalty however those are rare.
The work IJ does is truly honourable!!! We are all human and by nature imperfect. We should ALL have the opportunity to move forward without the government’s intervention!!!
Having to seek government permission in the form of licenses and permits does little to improve public safety and gives our capricious and vindictive government a weapon to use against anyone the bureaucrats deem unworthy.
I find it so strange that the government's enforcers Only need 6 months of training to have immunity and a weapon and one of those clown costumes out Here terrorizing us those same lawmakers See fit that it takes 2 years to become a Barber something is very very wrong
Licenses and permits are needed for almost everything we do, we have no real freedom anymore even bodily autonomy when they can tell you what medicines we must have to comply.
Well said!
Daniel_Rood Most of these bureaucrats are criminal themselves and committed crimes of their own, and they have swept under their carpets. Its sickening and hypocritical. Is it not illegal to punish a man twice for the same offence? Look at what is going on now, I seriously doubt anything will happen to Hunter Biden nor Joe for their crimes they committed.
I'll dice it a little finer, I'm sure there's cases where its legitimate to have licenses and permits, but I agree this is a system that can be easily abused and I DON'T like it.
A felony conviction follows people for the rest of their life, how can you expect someone to no longer act like a felon when you have labeled them as such for the rest of their life? Also, how can you expect these ex-felons to be successful if you take away the legal means to do so?
Democrats and Republicans are the sht stain on this country
100%%
It's not about helping people it's about stomping them down. Very sad.
I mean when you pay your debt, that debt is paid! Kind of simple right??? Preventing you from self-betterment and seeking opportunities for the rest of your life is about as evil as you can get.
But that was it's whole point from the get-go. That's why it's called Jim Crow 2.0 and this applies equally for whts as POC.
It's a system written by sadists and monsters and demons. That's not an exaggeration. They do this on a minor level with taking licenses a way for people who don't pay off their traffic tickets (which are really just traffic thefts and traffic extortions( fast enough, and then now of course when you need your car cuz your entire life depends on it (because yes public transportation exists, however that is not ideal and some people can't access it at all), so then they come after you for a driving on a suspended license and try to fuck you over more when you need to drive in order to survive and your license was suspended completely immorally, you never got a DUI, but they pretend that they don't understand this because they're all monsters and that's just what it is. Believe me these people aren't stupid, it's 1000% malice all the way.
It's about entrapment and fucking you over for sport and profit, literally nothing else.
I wish we weren't ruled or administered by hellscape demons but what can I say? We are and I don't know how to change this. Voters are dumber than a box of rocks and they keep electing these satanic savages who keep on instituting these criminal policies and Pigs blindly carry them out and at the end of the day we are all victims. It's a gross clown car show of deep injustice but I don't know how to stop it entirely. It's been this way for so damn long.
OP I posted you two replies, let me know if you cannot see them.
@@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago Yes sounds about right ❤🙏.
The irony is 80% of the congress have criminal records. The pesky citizen can’t possibly turn their life around and be successful. Big brother doesn’t like that kind of independence, but they sure love standing next to them for a photo shoot to help their campaign.
I know Congress are corrupt but what's your source for 80%?
@@YourWifesBoyfriendHis butt.
You just pulled that stat out of your ass.
@@YourWifesBoyfriend it’s called research it. It’s all public record.
They can run for office .
They can not POSSIBLY do any worse than their predecessors .
It's the customers that are being punished.
Forty-nine people have died in Dollar General stores due to safety violations. How do they have the "integrity" to accept SNAP? How does any corporation qualify as having any integrity?
Licensing has nothing to do with public safety. It's about limiting competition.
Once a person is off parole or probation that should be the end of it. If someone isn't safe enough to restore their civil rights, then they shouldn't be off supervision.
I agree with that more everyday.
That would require a system that's about rehabilitation rather than punishment. Not in Amerika.
In my country even convicts have civil rights, prison should only be taking your freedom away and nothing more.
If they are that bad then you keep them in jail
Decades back, SNAP, a.k.a. Food Stamps, was booklets of paper "bills" that were meant to be spent on approved items.
Some people and stores allowed these funds to pay for off-list things as innocuous as diapers to items like alcohol and tobacco.
I even knew someone who sold their food stamps at 80 cents on the dollar to get regular cash for other things, and this guy was getting hundreds of dollars a month worth of food stamps for his girlfriend's kids and he was making money hand over fist as a mechanic.
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Now, SNAP benefits are spent via a card much like a debit or credit card. The stores have to have computerized point-of-sale to accept the cards, and their sales system has to be able to be programmed to differentiate purchases from what is permitted on SNAP and what is not.
How the Sweet Lord of Pasta is the first guy going to "cheat the system" if he even wanted to?
Oh, I suppose he could go through the extra work of letting people make purchases with SNAP, then immediately return all that food and get refunded cash. But then if he was going to do that, he could do that with credit and gift cards too. And a simple review of his computerized Point of Sale data would easily show that chicanery.
I've often asked the question " at what point does one pay their debt to society?"
In my personal opinion once a person has done their time they should then have a clean slate.
100%.. otherwise what the jesus fuck was the point of that lock up??????
…” once a person has done their time…”.
It depends. IMO someone convicted of corruption should never be allowed to work in government agencies and especially in law enforcement. Child abuser should not be allowed anywhere close to kids. And so on. But closing all the paths to success for them is nonsense.
All restrictions must be lifted upon completion off all court ordered restitution. This includes voting, and the constitutional right to bear arms.
The best indicator of future behavior is unfortunately, past behavior. 🤷♂️ there are millions of people fighting for those jobs that haven’t victimized people.
@@acepilotson3331 if we don't let people reintegrate back into society and also actually earn a decent living, then you are setting them up to commit more crimes. Someone who was convicted of a victimless crime like drug possession should not be doomed to a career of gas station attendant.
@@kadengundersen498 I agree. Drug offenses shouldn’t exist in the first place. I’m talking crimes with victims or theft by fraud.
@@acepilotson3331 I don't know how the US adopted that mentality... but it does not exist in most other countries. Granted those other countries also genuinely rehabilitate members of society that fall behind. But in the US the mentality is to berate for all eternity... then demand they do better while holding their head under water. Notice that I can converse absent a single emoji and not hiding behind an alias.
@@acepilotson3331 If your argument is that someone with a criminal record can't be trusted in public, then they shouldn't be allowed out of prison in the first place. If they're going to live in society, they have to be allowed to function in society.
big governments love second class citizens
You mean slaves
This one sure seems to.
Ooh say can you see...
I have a petty theft for less than $5 that has kept me from good employment my whole life. The judge felt it necessary to put it on my permanent record because I didn't show up for court. This seems to be the law in California. This judge was later arrested on drug charges and disbarred. I'm sure he's got a better job me right now, considering.
I'm so sorry. My heartfelt thoughts and prayers go out to you. I'm hoping this helps in some small way. ❤️🙏❤️
Spill the beans. Put the judge on BLAST right here! They don't deserve the grace of being unnamed.
@@coolraul07 yes indeed! Name him please.
Go to west Texas the oil field are hiring that’s want I did after 10 years in 30 years out you can do it
Yeah our system is madness but also shame on employers for giving a fuck about your petty theft. It's none of their business and especially if it's old news why the hell would anyone sane give a fuck?
That is in no way a just reason for denying employment to someone.
It should be a crime to discriminate on the basis of past misdemeanours for employment, and most felonies considering that their price has been paid.
This is ridiculous to continue to punish someone who is trying to better himself and help the community
He's already paid the price and need to be allowed to run the business
This is why I live to be a wrench in the machine instead of another cog. Do whatever you can to separate yourself from the system. Untangle yourself from corruption.
My husband was thrilled when he could vote for the first time in his entire life at age 55. When he was 18 he served a year in prison and wasn't allowed to vote or join the military.
These laws are meant solely to keep people down. Both parties have supported these laws in the past. The law is used to create more poor people and keep them poor.
Just unreal this persecution is still happening, its been so many years! 😥
God bless the Institute for Justice for the work you do! You have earned my continued support
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The government REALLY doesn't want ex cons to make a living, they are stigmatized for life
They want to bind people to prison forever
These crimes should be expunged after a period of time. We should celebrate and support people who have successfully changed their lives.
YES, AMEN.
CHANGE IS POSSIBLE AND NECESSARY.
It's just not true that if you were once a pants pooper,😊 you'll always be a pants pooper, people grow out of that stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is our government making it so hard for people? Why do we call ourself a Christian nation but we continue to harm and judge and lack forgiveness? Thank you IJ.
The modern day West isn't christian anymore. The West has taken over satanism as their culture and I'm not being hyperbole or figurative speaking when I say this.
Bahahahaha, says the same Christians that need to be pursecuted because someone ate an apple once.
jeSUS died for your sins, yet everyone is a sinner. smh, Religion is a joke.
@@eddybowe2953 I struggle to understand how people could ever have believed this was a "Christian Nation" based upon the "religion" practiced by its so-called "Founders" and each and every Ruler or Puppet who came after them. The fact that every one of them agreed to have sold into slavery or otherwise vilified, excluded, and ultimately have exterminated the native or indigenous people on these lands in the name of "safety" or for their sacred "Manifest Destiny" bullshit should have been the very first clue that "Christianity" was nowhere to be found on their Agenda, much less in the hearts of any of them. That very FACT is how we ended up as we are today in this Country, with no so-called "Freedom of Religion" or even the illusion of any other kind of "Freedom" nor do we have any actual "Rights" at all in this Country. If you do not believe this, it is only because you have not yet been personally SHOWN that you do not by the Authorities and the Legal System. The "Separation of Church and State" was just another Huge Lie because the "Church" is the State and the State is the Church. This Benchmark Federal Legislation was enacted to keep all things "Christian" out of any and all State Institutions, and for that reason alone. The "Nation founded and built upon Christian principals" lie still being told and believed by The People is right up there with the lie calling America a "Democracy" which is heavily touted these days by every lying ass shill on the screen, all of whom know FULL WELL that America has always been a Constitutional Republic, even if in NAME OF FORM ONLY. The brainwashing of the American Citizens through the EVER-CHANGING curriculum they are charged with memorizing while attending State Mandated Public Schools, combined with all the years of falling under the "Spells" cast upon them by the "News-Casters" with the Fake AF News Media is an Evil so Diabolical that it is beyond comprehension.
The American injustice system hard at work again.
Everything I've ever tried to do has been blocked. I did my prison time and obeyed the law. I don't blame my ex wife for leaving me. I wasn't allowed to be a man and it put limits on her rising to elevated positions in her line of work. I basically worked like a teenager until i finally got paralyzed in an automobile accident 3 years ago. Now i have nothing.
That is wrong to mistreat those people. They shouldn't be considered felons all their lives.
That is a criminal violation of 18 USC 241, 242, 246, and 1951, and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, committed by criminal agents for the private organizations known as the democratic and republican party, for Malice against convicted felons. Not only is it a crime against store owner, but it is also a crime against his Relief Benefit customers. It is Reckless Endangerment under 25 CFR 11.401 and a gross abuse and unlawful conversion of public offices into an instrument of crime.
Thanks IJ. You folks are the heroes that we need need in the craziness of this day and age.
Any non violent conviction should be completely cleared from a person’s record once the punishment is served.
Who says punishment has to have an expiration date? Are you going to let pedophiles open daycare centers the day they get of jail?
With a few rare special exceptions, the moment you complete your sentence should be the end of any limitation placed upon you or your legal status. Nothing should follow your past those gates. Your record should be expunged as all terms of remediation were met.
Upon the conclusion of parole or probation, which go on way too long in this country anyways, everything should be restored to you. All legal rights, all civil rights, all of it.
Permanent discrimination or barring from any occupation or any peaceful activity or means of support past ones concluded sentence, including voting, should be patently illegal and should certainly qualify as cruel and unusual punishment and deeply unconstitutional, besides simply just morally wrong.
Policymakers in this country have a gift for evil, sadism and amorality.
That is discriminating against the poor in his community if they don't allow them to purchase with SNAP. People with money don't shop in little convenience stores. He needs the community to shop there. If he hasn't been convicted of SNAP fraud, whatever he did is unrelated.
It seems they want to punish as many people as possible for life. It is good that some people fight back to protect our rights even as they fight for their own.
We do everything we can to increase recidivism rather than to decrease it.
Would be nice to find a civil lawyer, I can't start a family, or find stable work due to past convection. It's been 11 years since. A permanent punishment.
Theres always another way. Meditate, it will come to you.
Them their fuckin all lawyers are worthless I'm telling just plain worthless
Most of my troubles are troubles because of worthless lawyers
@@noconsentgiven yea patience and taught me a lot. My time for justice will come.
Yeah I'm sorry to hear this, the system is evil. You can get married and start a family, nothing is stopping you there, but nothing you've done that long ago should be affecting you today. It actually should have ended the day that you walked out of jail or paid your last fine.
You served your time it should have been done 11 years ago.
If jobs aren't hiring you because of this they're they're wrong and that should be a crime.
Definitely keep trying to find a lawyer, possibly contact ifj, you should have been able to get this expunged a long time ago.
The people in this government want permanent victims, people they can kick around. They want mass incarceration. It's an ugly system.
I'm sorry you were the victim of it. Unfortunately you are far from the only one.
It's one thing to demand that people pay a price for a supposed offense, it's another to demanded that price be permanent. That's a very special evil that only people in this country's government could embody. I doubt you'll find it elsewhere.
@@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago trust that I've worked hard to understand what's going on, and I'll educate others and point out how this no longer about "community" safety it's about control. I won't give up, not just for me, for all the other people who want redemption. People become stronger after realizing the failures and learning about it in a deep level.
They deserve a "fresh start"!
There's a certain class of people that don't like people acting beyond the station they were born to. And they pay for the legislation and law enforcement to keep them in their place.
Indeed. Excellent point.
The moral of the story is don’t commit crimes or you’ll forever be punished.
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Frankly until we realize that we only mitigate reoffending by offering real second chances we deserve all the crime and evil we get. Person commits crime, gets punished and released. Continues to be punished and have vastly limited options with no recourse. World is shocked when they go back to their old community and their old ways.
You may not want your kid working with a former criminal. But not allowing that increases the chance your kid will be a victim of a current criminal.
When you victimize an innocent person, your life should become exponentially more difficult. That victim likely lives with the effects of their victimization for the rest of their lives.
@@acepilotson3331 we're not talking about severe violent crimes like rape or child murder or pedophilia. We knew we know the the discussion becomes more serious regarding those issues and more complicated. However even violent offenders can be redeemed and rehabilitated if given the opportunity. Maybe not all, but I'd wager most of them.
@@acepilotson3331 only if it's something like a violent rape or the robbery of one's life savings
@@acepilotson3331 I agree that accountability is important but it's easy to go too far with it. There needs to be a period of fair accountability and then that's it. You paid your price it's time to move on.
Otherwise what's the point of anything????? Otherwise then you get what we have now which is just sadism and hate and pure evil dressed up as so-called justice
Not to mention the word criminal is a loaded term. I mean anybody can be a criminal depending on how you qualify the word. "Criminal" just means you did something that your current political cartel said was wrong, it doesn't mean it was actually morally wrong. Today these politicians work for big business. Anybody who protests the evil that big business does is called a criminal by crazed federal prosecutors. I could tell you some incredible stories of people who were victimized by just such people.
People need to stop letting the government be their mommy and daddy and think for themselves.
We all do wrong things sooner or later; criminal and crime is in the eye of the beholder, like beauty or musical taste. One person's criminal is another person's hero. Which is the truth? Depends who you ask.
Provided somebody didn't do something very very sick or evil I don't care what they did. If they paid their price to make it right then that's all I care about.
I mean everybody has a skeleton in the closet or I should say almost everyone, so I find it gross that some people will so easily judge on others, as if they're so perfect! Pure hypocrisy! Let he who is without sin throw the first stone.
Madness
Most of what this political cartel calls crime is to me nothing of the sort. There are genuine bad acts out there I'm not denying that; I'm just saying that the majority of the US criminal code is in no way a crime in my eyes. As for genuine victims of genuinely evil people of course they deserve their full measure of justice, but I believe genuinely evil people are rare. Not as rare as I'd like, but relatively rare. Also, a lot of harm can be caused a person or group of people without ever touching them. Not all crimes are violent crimes There's plenty of white collar crime, business practices, and political actions or agendas that in my eyes qualifies as criminal or illegitimate.
Although not directly related to this video I have long wondered what Constitutional justification there is for denying felons the right to vote. The Constitution doesn't even prevent a felon from running for President, What is the reasoning for denying a fundamental right of citizens to vote?
Those would be state laws, I think. The constitution doesn't regulate how people vote for electors, but only how electors vote for the president?
These people seem like good case studies of why the US Criminal Justice System cares more about punishment than rehabilitation and how that screws up anyone that gets caught up in it.
Yes it's not about correcting people or holding people accountable, not really. It's just about disrupting communities and keeping as many people down and out as possible and putting an ever-increasing number behind bars. It's a very anti-human anti-life evil hate-based system and that is how it was designed to be, just look back through history a little bit. All the crime bills from evil monsters like Joe Biden (although he was far from the only one) in the 80s, Nixon's controlled substances act, but even before then.
I'm not saying there should be no laws and no prisons, but there shouldn't be ALL that many because there really aren't that many true crimes. You have property violations, property related crimes, white-collar crime, then you have crimes related to violence. That is it. And yes people should be held accountable if there was a genuine wrong committed, but unless it was extreme certainly not forever and the Constitution even says punishment must fit the crime. We've been post constitutional for a long time now though. Sucks for us eh?
Once you get a felony on your record. You're forever a second class citizen. I only have a few misdemeanors, but its strange seeing them get brought up 20 years later.
"He will always lack the integrigity required to accect snap benefits" thats a sentence I never thought I would hear 😂😂😂😂
IJ you do great work!
1 in 3 that’s when there’s way too many laws.
As a felon, the hurdles we have to face to become productive members of society is ridiculous. I served my time and havent been in trouble since prison in 2013. Yet 10 years later i still face hurdles.
Luckily in Michigan, the legislators are working on this issue now!
Once you have served your time. You should be free from all government restrictions. All of your constitutional rights restored
Sadly felons will never have it easy. That’s just how the system has worked
It didn't always work that way. Not only did your conviction not follow you after release, but felonies were for crimes with actual victims.
@@zippythechicken No one is talking about a 7 year old stealing candy at a store or someone getting parking tickets -- WHY? most of people are in jail on minor drug offenses or contempt of cop. I tell you why: because it is beneficial to the prison-industrial complex that needs fodder. A real chance to reenter society for non-violent "felons" would make us all much safer than the current for-profit policing and judicial system. Would save tax $$$$ too.
@@zippythechicken there's nothing wrong with doing or selling drugs. Is there a problem with imbibing or selling alcohol? So why do you favor one substance over another?
@@zippythechicken people who choose to drink or use drugs to excess have only themselves to blame if something goes wrong. They made a free will choice to use no one put a gun to their head.
Why do we punish drug sellers for their users' choices? How insane is that? Do we punish MD's if their patients choose to abuse their medication? Do we punish ABC store owners if people choose to drink in excess or abuse their alcohol? Isn't it insane that only drug dealers are criminalized in this country?? They're blamed for the free-will choices of other adults. Don't you find this perverse? Suddenly personal responsibility disappears when it's about drugs, but not drinking, driving or prescription medicine?? Don't you find this not morally justifiable???
Take a flying wild leap and tell me why you think that is.
Which demographic do you think drug prohibition was supposed to directly target come on now I'll give you three wild guesses.
Why do you think alcohol prohibition ended promptly yelled after 50 years drug prohibition still going strong? come on I'll wait.
Cash bail is a great evil why do you support it? Is incentivizes mass arrests it's one of the most evil things about our system. It's literally lockup-for-profit no one of conscience can or should support this. A person of means who gets charged with a serious crime can bail out and go home but a poor person charged with the exact same crime cannot? Now come on sweet cheeks you don't think that serves Public Safety now do you???? And just what race do you think is going to be disproportionately harmed by bail and excessive bail demands???? But I'm white as a post and you know what, I had relatively low bail one time and because I was totally destitute I still couldn't get out. So it can affect anyone but it will definitely disproportionately affect POC like everything else in our system.
@@zippythechicken I understand about genuine violent acts, that is what a justice system is supposed to intervene on. However our system goes far beyond that I think in ways that can be clearly seen once one starts to look.
Look I don't think that everyone can be redeemed but I do think most can.
There should be certain protections against those with violent convictions, however once someone has served their time and is deemed rehabilitated they should still be able to seek appropriate employment and housing provided it doesn't take them into contact with vulnerable groups. So for instance, perhaps someone convicted of a serious sex crime won't be allowed to work in schools or around children, but there's no reason why they shouldn't be able to get a job working at an industrial plant, or in a store where they'll be in plain sight of other adults at all times.
There should be certain types of housing set aside for those with past sex-crime convictions. Some people really can be rehabilitated and change. Everybody needs a place to live.
Also not every sex crime conviction is for a violent act. A lot of people are victimized by the sex offender classification every year who did nothing more than take a picture of a classmate in a bikini or forward a picture of a girl who happen to be underage who was scantily-clad. it doesn't mean they were looking at child po8n, this could have been a 15yo girl. Teens go to the beach and go to school in many places with relatively small amounts of clothing. I'm not trying to justify genuine sexual predators I'm talking about what all teens which is go which is go to parties, have fun take pictures of each other and so on. An 18yo having consensual sex with his 16yo gf is NOT a rapist, yet the law says he is. That is outrageous. I briefly dated a 26yo when I was sixteen 25 years ago. Man today I guess they'd arrest him as a rapist (we weren't even sexual active). Our laws are screwy and sick. They are written to totally victimize people of color and poor people in every way. They are just a tool to hurt and harm people that is all.
I've heard that people who get cited for public urination now can get called sex offenders. This is absolute madness and sadism.
The sex offender label is being applied to everyone and everything now creating a permanent underclass of perceived predators were none such exists.
You cannot overestimate the maliciousness and the evil of the monsters who control our courts I'm sorry. They hate human beings and they really want to destroy them and so if you do any little thing wrong they will use that as an opening to try to charge you as if you were some kind of genuine evil predatory sociopathic person. I've seen it happen time and time again and I have talked to quite a few people who have lived through it. All of these people were poor or POC.
Cops are so evil you cannot begin to imagine the moral bankruptcy in these demons. They take pleasure from harming people either through violence or through the system. Had a friend who got a six-year sentence because he had an argument with his girlfriend. Voices were raised, a neighbor called the police and from there just got out of hand. I'm fuzzy on the details now because this is going back a ways but I think they charged him with some form of sexual or physical assault and pressured the woman to claim it happened. Apparently she did try to speak up and say nothing like that occurred but that didn't stop the cops. You see my friend is very dark-skinned and very black. Of course his public defender was worthless and did nothing for him so he got a six-year sentence, ended up having to do three years in one of the California prisons, got out and still had to be three years on parole which is pseudoslavery. For nothing.
Cops are from Satan in this country, once you see them that way everything else makes sense. They hate Black people with a blinding passion that a normal person could never understand. They want them all to to die. Short of that they want them all to be locked up. This friends name is Chris, he is a very sweet young man, he never means any harm to anyone. He's doing fine today but that was six years out of his life for absolutely no reason at all.
99% of our current lockup system is evil, damn near satanically so. It's designed to attempt to destroy people and to destroy the black community with industrial efficiency and that's exactly what it does.
Of course genuine evildoers need to be intercepted and handled, but our system goes far far far beyond that and it does so intentionally.
Thank you IJ.
My brother had a couple of minor felonies (as in not murder rape assault drugs etc) in his hayday. He went to jail or prison did his time paid his fines etc and years later after straightening up still had consequences. Consequences that included not being allowed to access some housing, some jobs (he could work at a government bomb factory but not McDonald's, figure that one out), he lost the legal right to travel to many countries for life, no ability to purchase firearms for home defense or hunting (even though he was never a violent person or used a gun in a bad way) and would not be allowed to join the military if he wanted to among others. This is years after he stopped acting foolish and showed he wasn't screwing around anymore. Getting in trouble once or even multiple times shouldn't mean a permanent cloud hanging over your head and a permanent mark against you for the rest of your life. If you straighten up and maintain for so many years proving you learned your lesson your life, rights and records should be made as if you never got into trouble. No criminal record visible unless it's absolutely necessary and only through a court or the law. no jobs denied, no housing denied etc. I mean let's say a 16 year old stole a car went joy riding crashed it and that was it. No one was physically hurt or killed just a lot of damage l. Should that child have to suffer for the rest of their life for that one incident?
Or how about if some kids best friend from early childhood suddenly got in with the wrong crowd and got in some trouble while that kid was around and that kid ended up in trouble just because he was around (guilty by association, look it up. or cops think he was involved even if he wasn't). It happens. You don't have to do anything wrong yourself to get in trouble. Saying otherwise is saying no one is ever falsely convicted. There are records showing it happens all the time.
If he has never directly defrauded the snap/EBT program then he absolutely deserves a chance.
My dad did 2 1/2 years, was released in 1962, never reoffended, and still, at 83 years old, can't buy a pistol. My cousin died in 2003, at age 43 because after he did 8 years on drug charges, he couldn't get housing or a job. His kids' mom was still in the drug life so his dad bought him a trailer and gave him a small amount of money to live on until he could get a job. He had his kids living with him and everyone was doing much better. But then no one would hire a felon even though he was sober and needed a job to take care of his kids. Out of options, he ended up deliberately throwing a rock through a restaurant window in the middle of the night and sat on the sidewalk in front of the door waiting for the cops. His kids went to the state and he died in prison.
This is double jeopardy. 😖
Time 🕑 to sue the federal government.
I've been out sence 1991 and I was a heavy equipment operator doing water sewer storm drain also made landfills also worked on the railroad which is vital infrastructure so yeah I know how they feel just think about us older people who's been out for over 30 years dealing with it
Our government needs serious reforms.
That's not just punishing the store owner, but also punishing customers who want to use their SNAP benefits...now they'll have to go to another store farther away in order to use them 😐
Government can do just about anything to you, after 2 years or so they get a free pass from legal action.
Virginia law is stopping Rudy Carey from being a counselor.
He is barred because he assaulted an officer in 2004. Since his release he has been upstanding member of society, and even was a drug counselor until the company he worked at discovered it was illegal for him to do it.
The courts determined the only way Carey can legally be drug counselor is for him receive a pardon.
If you live in Virginia please contact governor Youngkin and ask that he pardon this man
How about if he works as a drug lifestyle recovery coach? You can do the same type of thing without a license.
You guys are like my new favorite favorite Americans. I recommend your videos to everybody that will listen. Civil forfeiture and immunity words in my vocabulary now because of you guys. Everybody's got to have some form of accountability for misbehaving.
Add me to this list. I went to college twice. I applied for jobs. Had interviewers say, "you're too good to be true. Whats the catch?". They ultimately found out and wouldn't hire me. Ive been in trouble one time in my life, it was felony conspiracy to aiding and abetting, non violent drug charge. They definitrly charged me with alot more than i was actually responsible for, but you have a crappy public defender, they throw 20 charges at you and say if you plea guilty to one we will drop the other 19. Agree to eat 3 years of your life rather than risk 20.
We had a similar thing in uk 🇬🇧 indeterminate public protection sentence, however to get their 3 previous kindred offences they had to back track, in one case 20 years, these offences were in the main 'spent' under our law, but this didn't stop them..its no longer in force yet people still languish in prison 😮
can't blame the government for doing exactly what 90% of business do already. I have a felony record and spent 12 years in prison. Its took me a 18 months before I finely found an employer to hire me.
The more I see these videos and hear these stories the more I despise this government.
Once you've served your time it shouldn't be held against you. It sad that it can be. I've never been convicted but was charged with felonies many years past yet they still seem to come up.
Isn't charging someone again for a crime they have already paid for known as DOUBLE JEOPARDY? It certainly seems like that is being done to this man EVEN after he has worked so hard to put his past behind him. I already have joined IJ and will be sending a donation so IJ can help Altimont and others in his same situation. If people in prisons can now VOTE why can't Altimont accept SNAP and help his family AND his community.
Double jeopardy is charging or punishing them twice. They aren't being "charged" again, but they are continuing to punish people, which arguably, could be construed as double punishment.
May The Lord Bless this Man!
Law enforcement will use or tout a "felony" conviction over a person to get what they want or need and to needlessly punish a person that offended them. If that makes sense. Many people would be surprised on how low level of a crime could be classified as a "felony". Are expungements relevant in any on these cases?
The Declaration of Independence, grievance #10 “He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.” Perhaps we ought to study exactly what that means!
Um ... exactly what it says? Sort of like the Constitution.
All these laws accomplish is to make sure criminals stay criminals. The people in the comments being judgmental saying make better decisions in life, these laws could make you the next victim of a crime if you have taken away all legitimate ways for ex cons to make a living.
I have an assault charge from 6 weeks after my 18th birthday. I'll be 38 this year. I haven't been in trouble since 2007, and I have 1 felony and 2 misdemeanors total. It's ruined my entire life. Ohio will not allow me to expunge or seal my criminal record. Before covid, I was finally on the right track with work, and due to covid, I lost my job, and it's been impossible to find and keep a job, making 50% of what I did before covid. I'm currently $50,000 in the hole with child support, and I can't afford to pay anything for myself. I will not take government benefits from a government that has done nothing but screw me since I turned 18. I want to work. I have a class A cdl. All the tools you need to earn a loving but where I'm at in Cleveland, Ohio work doesn't pay well and jobs are few and far between. I am depressed and miserable every single day of my life. I feel like a complete failure. I'm no longer allowed to see Mt children and can't afford an attorney to fight for my right to see them. I will not break the law to make money. Therefore, I do work when I can and try to pay my way, but I'm coming up short every month. If it weren't for my fiance, I'd be sleeping in my truck. I have her broke and stressed as well. I can't even afford to file my taxes for the last four years, and child support takes every single dollar anyway. It costs $200 per year to file taxes, and I can't afford my cell phone bill every month, let alone $800 for taxes. The IRS will owe me approximately $12000-$13000, and before covid, I was $18000 in the hole. Had I not lost my job, I'd be debt free and child support free, and I'd see Mt children. I was approved for unemployment 4 times and never received one dollar. I was also approved for pandemic unemployment, and they screwed up and I never received a penny, and I had $15000 in my unemployment fund at the time. Cleveland is a terrible place to live. The county is so corrupt and lazy, and they only help minorities and women. I'm white, live in a suburb, and they always assume you have money and your family is rich. Everyone in my family is on disability or SSI. I hardly associate with any of them, and I'm on my own for the most part. I know this was long, but hopefully, someone has the time to read it and has the ability and time to help me out. I'd gladly pay for anything that I need to if it can be set up on some type of payment plan. I'm not asking for anything for free. Just help a little help getting me back in the right direction. Thank you for sharing either way.
The system is designed to suppress not rehabilitate
That radio guy is about as black as I am Apache.
Guy with the Store, God Bless U, Grew up in Cali many of us May have Got a D,You, I and 30 40 Yrs Later we still Have Lost Rights, Stay Strong and God Bless U,,
I recently had to have a 23 year old misdemeanor expunged for my record, so that I could buy a firearm. What did I do? In the year 2000, I got drunk at a bar and thought it would be a good idea to try and steal the inflatable Godzilla that they had by the front door. So because of that, the FBI determined that I was too much of a risk to own a firearm.😅
While that same organization fakes ufo landings on African school children...virginha...they are disgusting...just give me the button
That's just backhanded unconstitutional gun control from our worthless government.
Great Job..on fighting for our liberties.... by the way the host is exceptionally Beautiful...
This is so true.
The government shouldn't keep punishing people for their crimes,
Once Their Debt To Society, Is Paid!
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This is a shame, once someone has served their time for a non violent or sexually related crime they should no longer be punished.
We love you IJ
1:40 Insane. Many prisons offer cosmetology courses. Its called "correctional", but its an unredemptive system.
Everyone deserves a second chance. Once you've paid. You've paid.
“The mistakes he made”… he’s a damn drug dealer! He committed felony crimes and now doesn’t want to deal with the consequences of his actions and “institute for justice” treats him like a victim!
You know. if this applied to every job (like Pres.), maybe we'd get some action from both sides of the aisle.
Psalm 113 The Government Giveth nothing and the Government Taketh everything... blessed be the Government! For all power and force, belong to Government! The sheep shall kneel down, Shut Up, Obey, and Pay!
Talk about double jeopardy.
Sounds like double Jeopardy unconstitutional
2018 is when he got out of prison thats NOT decades old convictions NOW IS IT!!! The standard rule is once released from prison the convict must go 10 years minimum without another conviction of any type before he is eligible to use Snap benefits in his store. 2018 is not 10 years from the release of his last conviction.
In PA you can not work on a state funded construction job if you have a felony. Unless they fall behind and decide to bring in 30 undocumented drywall workers (I have seen this).
It's wrong to subject people to forever punishment. They say that jail is payment of your debt to society for your crimes and yet the government just won't let it go. I see it all the time. A man/woman comes out of jail yet can't get a decently paying job because of their record and that leaves them nothing but a criminal path to pay bills and survive which leads to jail again. The government has created a vicious cycle. It's just abhorrent.
Been punished for 30+ years and it is never going to go away. It may not be a serious thing but it still follows me around even today. Shouldnt be that way. I payed my dues long long ago.
They had a undercover Narc cut me internallywith her fingernail, as I slept! Swear to ALL I hold Dear!!!
This is double jeopardy essentially.
Think of it this way. Would you want a nurse taking care of you or a loved one who has been in prison for crimes related to patient abuse? There are circumstances where preventing someone from working in certain jobs after serving their time is warranted.
I think several comments have suggested that crimes related to the occupation could be treated differently, or at least evaluated on a case-by-case basis. But would you really object to a 45-year-old nurse who got caught joyriding at age 19? I heard about one state that denies all professional licenses to anyone with a prior felony. Does that make sense if the license is to be a barber, and the prior felony was possession of marijuana, in a state where that isn't legal?
I don't understand the government will help pay my rent but they won't give me any food to eat
Today's FCRA guidelines on who and who not can be hired is so completely INSANE these days, almost ridiculous! I admit I did have some activity back in 1996-1997, but in each case, adjudication was withheld and I never served a day in jail of prison, not even probation. This still holds me back from getting a job in finance, even though I got my bachelor's degree in Accounting back in 2018. I learned from my mistakes, but still feel very much bias because I am classified as a "convicted felon", even though I was NOT convicted and I have no money to pay for a expungement...so I live on my substandard paycheck and survive on my own wits, waiting for the next load of B-S that will stop me from succeeding.
PLEASE TALK TO AN ATTORNEY ABOUT HAVING YOUR ALMOST 30 YEAR-OLD ALLEGED CRIMES EXPUNGED FROM YOUR RECORD. MANY TIMES, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN DO YOURSELF AT THE COURT CLERK'S OFFICE AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME HAS PASSED, FOR A SMALL FEE OR NO FEE AT ALL. TO START OFF WITH, LOOK UP THE LAWS IN YOUR STATE ON "EXPUNGEMENT" AND FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THOSE LAWS IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY. BEST WISHES AND GOOD LUCK!
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Totally depends on the crime as to whether your record should haunt you for the rest of your life!
So people who most likely turn to crime because they need money, after they pay their time back to society and get out and want to better themselves, the government won't let them... makes me wonder why reoffending percentages are so high.
Yes they do try to keep you down.
I agree with punishing crime as well as reabilitation but you can't just punish someone forever and never allow them to redeem themselves, i think that contributes on some level to a lot of repeat offenders in the criminal justice system!
I just want to get rid of the government we have now and start over from scratch.
In the good ole state of CT you can your record scrubbed of any felonies 7 years after the date of conviction… that is unless you pick up even a misdemeanor, then the seven years resets.
Hypocrisy at it's finest... saying you went to prison 20 years ago and are not trustworthy.. We all know that the LEAST trustworthy group of people in the world are politicians... or people that work for them..
This is ridiculous to continue to punish someone who is trying to better himself and help the community
He's already paid the price and need to be allowed to run the business to benefit his community. The American government does not protect small business.
She said "1 in 3 Americans have been arrested for a crime. 33% of the population can't be that bad. Thankfully I don't live in the USA where there are so many bad cops doing bad things. I don't know anyone that has been arrested.
Well if you have been convicted of a crime once you serve your time you still aren't allowed to defend yourself anymore. And the courts have repeatedly ruled that government has no duty to protect you. So if you defend yourself or even posses a defensive tool you go back to jail.