TAYLORMADE M4 DRIVER FULL REVIEW - RICK SHIELS
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- TAYLORMADE M4 DRIVER FULL IN-DEPTH REVIEW
RICK SHIELS - PGA PRO Rick Shiels tests the TaylorMade M4 driver over a 2 week period to give the most in-depth review possible
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Thanks so much for the awesome comments guys!!
I notice a few of you have mentioned that the audio of the video is sped up in parts and makes me sound like a chipmunk haha! I am looking into it, it's very strange as it's not affecting everyone! I am pretty sure it's only happening on the RUclips app! If you copy and paste the link here ruclips.net/video/tDdtC1pH3ec/видео.html and watch on your browser it should work just fine!
Thanks
Rick
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Rick Shiels Golf still a chipmunk...no idea what you are saying. Genuinely looking forward to hearing your opinion. Please reupload
Rick Shiels Golf -hey Rick, I believe it's called a decibel meter. They're not expensive, but might be able to help make a comparison of the loudness of each different driver when hit. I'd look forward to that video! Good luck!
I realize it is kinda off topic but do anybody know of a good website to watch newly released movies online ?
@Carter Layton try FlixZone. Just search on google for it :)
Just bought this driver yesterday, never more far and straight drives. I love it
Do you still love/use it?
Love the performance graphic and testing clubs in that way, great job bud
daddy finch I love you
Love the new format... Much more detailed less unanswered questions.. good job
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This is so true. I’ve hit this driver and it helps from what I’ve seen. And I love it. May not work for everyone but you should give it a shot.
Rick, I was a big critic of your preview videos...but now that I've seen your in depth review, i think it is absolutely necessary to do it that way and you're doing an awesome job mate! should've never doubted you mate!
The leaking to the right you noticed may have been from delofting the driver. In taylormade drivers when you deloft them it then opens the face a few degrees, and vice versa if you add loft it closes the face. Just a thought, love the review!
For someone who plays Ping equipment from 2012 with no desire to upgrade, I find these videos entertaining enough to watch. Nice job, Rick.
This driver worked out the best for me. I'm interested in buying that driver.
A great thorough and in-depth review. As with your earlier M3 review, you have really raised the bar for reviewing.
Cheers
I am a newer golfer and took lessons for a year while playing the M1. The M4 (with a White Tie Ozik R-flex shaft) was hitting draws and straight shots right out of the gate with little to no swing changes. If anything, I am able to swing with more power (and go lot further) with the M4 since I can trust it's not going to spin off the face and go OB. There's still an occasional slice, but I usually only go left (I'm a lefty) if I block it. This is a great deal on a used club for your money.
This new review format is awesome. Love the thorough testing over at period of time to really fully "understand" the equipments capacity.
Worth to remember that when you crack the loft down the face opens and when lofted up the face closes. Could be the cause for shots going right
As not a great golfer - I tried the Rogue, M4 and G30 (all 9.5-10 deg + stiff shafts) - the M4 rocks for me. I'm not a good enough golfer to play draws or fades yet - just need a driver to get it where I'm "somewhat" aiming to go - M4 does that in spades. 275 + yard carry with just a little draw. I dropped the angle down to sub 9 deg and I'm loving it. low flight bullets with rolls to near 300 +/- 20 yard deviation from my target line. Big fan.
Rick if you are looking to test driver sound, which I think is mightily important when choosing a club, there are two factors you have to remember. First is you can measure the decibels that the driver puts out using a decibels meter. This measures how physically loud the driver is. But more importantly is measuring pitch, which is the frequency of the sound. Pitcher helps determine the piercing capabilities of sound through the air and is why higher pitched noises sound louder even when producing lower decibel levels than lower pitched noises. Pitch of a sound can be measured by computer programs by recording with your mic. I wouldn't be surprised if some of your recording software has those capabilities now and if not, there are plenty of programs online.
What a great in depth review! Best review I’ve seen you do! Fair and honest, awesome!
Great review Rick.! Genuinely am so impressed how honest you are and thorough. I have been very interested in this new tech and now I know I don’t “need” this as a golfer especially the fact I am terrible with a driver...
just bought this from my local driving range. My normal shot shape is a draw or snap hook. I also def found it faded more than I was used to, but only to the point it was 10yds offline. and I didnt get any snap hooks or over draw. I think twist face may actually be beneficial to my swing. Time will tell. One weird thing is that I seemed to be able to swing it faster than any other driver by 3+mph consistantly. Tested 7 drivers in total. This just seemed to suit me best. Also it has the custom black paint rather than silver, looks awesome. Very happy with my £115 splurge. Of course came straight to Rick to see what he had to say. Kinda glad I tested it first as I dont think I would have bothered. Like Rick says you have to test for yourself.
I've been playing about a year and a half and have been wanting to test this driver since it's the most inexpensive model with Twist Face. I bought a 10.5* model off eBay for $150 and it was paired with a Matrix White Tie 55g R-flex shaft. I was hitting natural draws with ease where before my 2017 M1 was favoring a fade/slice. Even shots off the toe with the M4 weren't fading or slicing. The M4 could be more suited for an average swing speed as I wasn't skying the ball anymore than my 2017 M1 set to 10.25* of loft. I also have a TM Mini Driver and the Twist Face really isn't a gimmick in my opinion.
Really like the comparison chart. By far the best way to show test results that ive seen by anyone. Good job
Thank you for candid honesty Rick. Helps my decision !
Good honest review...all twist face does is cure one problem,but creates another,so no difference what so ever,apart from wasting over £400.In years gone by id buy a new driver every year because all we had was golf magazine reviews(no GC quad or ball data ,distance spin etc)so I fooled myself by believing the latest marketing buzzwords.But now with RUclips and golfers like Rick Shiels now prove that technology has been the same for over five years.Just by watching his reviews over the years you can see this and hear this..Look at his performance with the old G20 driver!!!blew this m3/4 out of the water and so have all the drivers he's reviewed as well from years gone by.Thanks Rick youve saved me a fortune these past few years👍🏻
Wasn't expecting such honesty good work
As always, great review! Must say that I like the old review style better but really appreciate all of the effort you put in for us! Thanks Rick
Rick a decibel meter is all you need. The average driver generates about 82-90 dBA of sound. To put that into terms for you by hitting a basket of balls with your driver you will be subjected to less than 2% of your daily "average". Of course this depends on swing speed and smash factor however until the dBA rise above 116 there is no real threat to long term hearing loss :) An interesting factor is that the dBA we are subject to vary with "near ear" and "far ear" (ear close to the golf ball at impact) hope this helped from a fellow PGA Professional from Poland. Love your work m8.
Hi Rick! If you wanted to measure the volume from clubs you review. You could use a Decibel level meter to measure the dBs coming from impact! Hope that helps
Wow rick. Well done! A superb review. I was sceptical about the new video format but u proved me wrong!
Great review again Rick. I'm liking the honesty about the twist face and that it isn't this all magical face that fixes bad shots.
I love the M4, I play a fade shot. So when I do hit it off the toe it keeps me from drawing my shot when I’m aiming left. So my miss isn’t as bad and keepsake in the fairway or just off the fairway left. Without the twist face I might end up getting a big duck hook. M4 suits my swing perfectly.
Superb review Rick, great way to test out the claims of the manufacturer!
Just been given one of these from a mate, I took it straight to the range What a driver! I found it wasn't very forgiving but looks/sounds amazing when hit in the sweet spot. I have the 10.5 with reg flex shaft.
Great review. The comparison to your average driver shots is a fantastic addition.
Cheers Kevin 👍
Think I’ll pick up the 2017 M2 driver AND 3 wood for the same price
Love the looks and feel of m2 and on the fence about twist face
I did exactly that and added the hybrid. Couldn’t be happier.
Rick, very much like the new review style. It gives us real, solid information to help us make a good decision or what to look for when considering a new product. Keep it comin!
hey rick, great review. if you want to measure sound you can use a decibel meter app on your phone. just set it next to the ball when you hit and record the data.
I play the Callaway Epic and I don't plan on Switching anytime soon. Looks great feels great sounds great and I hit it straighter and longer than any other driver I never used.
The loud sound would put me off, have just switched from a Rocketballz to an XR16 Pro mainly for that reason and much prefer it, getting a few extra yards as well.
I like the data sets where you show the averages of 5 shots as well as the new overlay.
Finally watch the M4 video in my browser and all I can say is wow! The new format quality just between M3 and M4 is better. Would nice to hear some of the on course comments live as you hit the shots. Kind of a gut reaction to what you are feeling and seeing.
Seems like even some tour plays are struggling with twist face. Tiger was playing the new M3 at Torrey Pines and he was really struggling to find fairways I think he hit like 12 out of 58 for the week and it was a double miss. Maybe he should go back to the M1 he played at the Hero. Still great to see Tiger back making cuts.
Great in depth test and does cover a couple of my concerns on twist face. Glad you have clearly stated for people to test. Keep up these great new reviews I love the more in depth and tech reviews
I agree with the consensus. New review format is top notch.
For testing the sound level you can get a decibel meter from most electronic store, and most likely online. Then just set it up close to where the ball is and you'll have a reading. Loving the new testing. Would really love to see you do a full test like this on the Cobra F8
Nothing personal Rick, but we like seeing you hit the club more than hearing you talk. Older reviews were more entertaining. Keep them coming though!
After tesing Epic, M1 and M2 last year, I went with the M2 and it is working well for me.
Rick - love the change in your reviews ... I'm learning so much more with this format. Thanks and I look forward to more reviews. I'm a loyal subscriber and really appreciate you!!!
Been using the Cobra LTD that is was fitted for me. I am not planning to switch to a new driver this year. I am very happy with it.
You could use your phone to measure sound pressure.
There are probably many aps, i have tested one called NoiseExposure on my iPhone.
I did an comparison with professional equipment and didnt notice any difference. The app uses the microphone on the phone to measure.
Hope this helps
Another great review Rick.. If you want to check how loud they are you can get a digital decibel Meter easily for around £40-£50 or even cheaper there are some downloads available for I phones/Play store,tablets etc.. Keep up the great work matey..
Hey Rick, as far as measuring the sound, you can purchase a decibal meter. The price varies greatly though, but it all depends on your budget. I've seen them go for $25 upwards of $1000 for the industrial versions. Hope this helps and keep up the great work.
with a good quality condenser microphone you can get software that measures the decibel level and even analyze the frequency to see the loudness and "pitch" of the driver high pitched "ting" or lower pitched "thud"
Two good reviews (M3/M4). Appreciate you have to walk a fine line with how you feedback on this new technology, good balance and you get your message across well with strong credibility. Will the gimmicks ever stop, will the hype ever stop - probably not with certain brands. Keep up the good work Rick!
The Audio is sped up on the RUclips app, i was able to watch it by goin onto the RUclips site through a browser
And I was thinking I’m the only one hearing a squirrel talking...
Rick, thanks for the video! I love the new "infographic." I hope you can start charting a larger comparative infographic as you add other club reviews to show previous number from previous reviews. Keep up the great work! Cheers!
The new review style is spot on for me! Thanks Rick
For a fairly reasonable cost you can pick up a decibel meter or SPL meter online. They also have db meter apps for Android and iPhone that are reasonably accurate and can at least put you in the ball pack on loudness.
I love the new reviews!! Thanks Rick.
This is the driver that I want. I have it earmarked.
Great work Rick love the on course testing gives us a real feel about the product. I am using the M2 at moment and can’t see much difference between these clubs. I am looking at changing my driver this year and look forward to seeing all your reviews which will help me choice the right one for me. Thanks again keep up the great work. 👍
Easily best reviews out there! Loving the new format, so detailed and concise.
your point about testing these M Drivers should also include the 2016 M2. because i love my 2016 M2 combined with a Elements Chrome 65 gram reg flex Shaft and my smooth flat swing has turned me into a 250-260 yard driving beast from previous unforgiving SLDR,s 225-240 yard drives.
really digging these new new reviews!
Awesome and thorough comments. Thanks Rick for your professionalism.
Great review Rick, thanks for doing this. Shot #8 that you were so upset about because it went right, was only 142 rpm to the right, which would be a slight Power fade, and you carried it 292 yards! SIGN ME UP for that carry. I can always aim a little left! You should put a piece of making tape on the ground for your toe line to make sure you are set up the same every time. I have noticed slight aiming differences in your testing videos.
Thanks for the honest review. You didn’t twist your channel👍👍👍👍☺️
Solid review, digging the greater depth of detail. The graphic is also a useful addition.
Just bought this M4, tested a few more drivers but found this a good driver for my shape of shot
If you were wanting to evaluate the loudness of the club a decibel meter might be a good idea. Only downside decibel doesn’t determine the pitch whether it’s a high sound or low sound only the loudness.
Am sure I can speak for most golfers out there for their concern of this twisted face on club/s. Our aim is to hit the sweet spot on every club to send the ball to their intended target, that is what we are taught/shown and it does make common sense in our goal/s!
Am sure a lot of money time and research has gone into this product, but am sure longer distance off the tee is every golfer aim as one does not intend to hit the toe or heal of the club! your video showed the danger/s of receiving a ball flight which you did not intend! In saying all this, I will look forward in trying the club out just for my own curiosity! Many thanks for the demo!
I have watched both of the new taylormade videos on the drivers and really like the new review format
Hey Rick. For the audio - why don’t you try using a decibel reader? You should be able to see how loud each driver is and add it to the chart.
Another great review Rick. I'm currently using the 2017 M2. My missed shots are the toe shots with a closed face ending up with a bad miss left so this could be a help to someone like myself. However, the $ for now would keep my M2 in the bag for me as it is performing quite well most of the time.
I’m in my 4th M driver now (2 m2’s and 1 M1) and this Tour Issue 16 M2 head I have now is incredible. Planned on the M3 but after your review I may pass. We’ll see how the demo day goes but hopes are low now
I like the new style of reviewing. While I like getting to see a wide variety of clubs, I am more interested in seeing how you view the technology that is going into the clubs and how that technology plays out in performance. Having you test these clubs more in-depth provides a greater sample size and makes the review mean more. As an engineer who loves sports, I enjoy watching these videos primarily for the science and how the advances in technology are playing into golf club manufacturing. I also enjoy seeing what "technology" is real and what is more for the sales pitch. Great job and keep up the good work!
Thanks Scott!
Hey dude you could use a decibel reader to get a reading on how loud each shot is. Not sure if anyone has said that but anywho .. Keep up the awesome work.
I know this video is a bit old, but you can test how audible a club is pretty easily with a decibel meter. They're relatively cheap and will tell you how loud some clubs are compared to others.
You might want to get some more testers to try out the twist face. That way you can dive into the numbers and see what’s really going on! A larger sample size should yield answers
I feel the new review style is more thorough, is based on more data, and the comparison to your data averages helps to place how the tested club compares to your norms.
Great review! There should be an app that measures decibels you can use to gauge the sound off the drivers if that’s what you’re looking for
Another great job, Rick, and simply LOVING this format and top-notch production.
Outstanding review again Rick. Thank you for the time you put into this!
Love the new in depth reviews and honest reviews giving joe public a heads up when spending their hard earned money thank you
Love the idea of sound measurement. I pretty much buy drivers by sound these days as dont fancy getting tinnitus on the driving range.
You can get a decibel meter on the app store to measure how loud the impacts are - have your phone a set distance from the ball each time for accurate results
Love the way you tested this club!! Keep this up.
You mentioned wanting to measure decibel levels for drivers, I know they make smartphone apps, but they have meters at music stores. I would think that if you didn't want to use an app, they should have a meter there. I really like these in-depth reviews!
Great review Rick. Be interesting to hear TMs response about your findings. Seems to exaggerate your bad shots sadly
Rick you can get a cheap digital decibel meter and set it next to the GCQuad to capture the sound. Also, can't wait to see your Cobra full review to see how it worked while out on the course.
There are free spl meters on the App Store which would measure volume at impact if you’re inside a hitting bay. Cheers.
Loving the 2018 videos so far Rick!
Good review Rick... I'm still a little perplexed, as far as M3 and M4 and the information you are giving out is very good.. I currently play the 2016 M1 and did not switch due to me not liking the results of the 2017 version.. so gonna test 2018 M3 and the new Callaway Rogue.. thanks again great review...
I can help you with measuring decibels of driver noise. It would involve using 2 pics (preferably condensers on a cardioid setting) and using software such as Logic Pro X to record the front and back of the club face. You can then set levels low enough so that it doesn't clip. You'll then be able to see how loud each channel is. I'm from Chorley so if you ever want me to drop by Quest to try it out, let me know.
Hi Rick, Thanks for the review as always. The reason for commenting now is that I am considering an M4 driver. You've worried me with the shots going slightly right off the toe. I like to draw and fade the ball and you appear to have struggle when you were doing this. You asked if there is a way of detecting and analysing the sound of a club. You can do this with a microphone and then using time and frequency analysis. You'll see the overall amplitude on the time trace plus how long it takes to decay. On the frequency spectrum you'll see how the sound is composed (which frequencies and their amplitude). However I'm not sure what you would do with this data.
Another amazing review! Thanks again, Rick. As for your curiosity to record how loud a driver is, you can always pick up a cheap decibel level reader. They vary in price. I think that could work nicely for you. Cheers!
hey Rick just watching the review, you can use a sound decibel meter to measure how loud the driver is. i think you can get an app for your phone that will measure it.
Really like these full in depth reviews
Very good reviews, these feel more honest and that isn't to say you haven't been honest in the past. Looking forward to more of this type of review this year. Have fun at the PGA Show!
Rick, try using a sound level meter, or a noise dosimeter. Both used for industrial hygiene purposes to measure sound. Should be what you need, but not sure about the price range you are looking for. Cheers
It sounds like if you have a fairly neutral swing path and face then Twist-Face almost negates the gear affect and gives you a what is effectively an open face on toe hits, thus giving you a fade. I would be interested to see what would happen with strikes near the heel with the same neutral path and face. Perhaps this technology is more suited to golfers with more in to out or out to in swings.
Loving the new in-depth test format Rick! No need to measure the Db levels, just rank the sound in categories; Quiet/dull........Moderate/dull.........Moderate/tiny..........Loud.........&Holy Shit that`s DEAFENING!!!!!!!
I`m thinking of changing my Ping G30 SFT this year, so I`m planning to try out the Ping G400, Callaway Rogue Draw bias & the TM M3/4 (seeing if they work with my old mans low heel strike). But I suspect that none of them will be any better than my current "fairway finder".
Interesting video and opinion, John Rham who won in America last night said on interview his win was down to twist face because he could not find the centre of his driver.
I’d suggest using a decibel meter. Can pick them up for ~$20 us. Won’t be able to tell you frequency of sound but definitely how loud the impact is!
Or an app for you phone!
You should be able to measure the sound volume by using an SPL (sound pressure level) meter. There must be a way to actually record the peak level when the club face strikes the ball.