The fact that you can replace the disc drive on this without unscrewing one single screw is mindblowing to me, especially in today's time and age where everything appears to become increasingly harder to repair, not easier.
It does have a catch tho. By making it like this and not a "standard" screwy way it means that unless you tear it down completely the PS5 is only compatible with Sony specific disc drives which will be far more expensive than regulars on the market. Although how often does the disc drive break tho? Wouldn't worry too much.
@@WayStedYou thing is the proportion was different. Idk why but there's this weird psychological thing where the more glossy plastic there is relative to the amount of textured plastic, the more noticeable it is and the more noticeable it is, the less aesthetically pleasing it is.
it is the same from the Playstation 4 - the line break in the middle is just about the same proportions. The top part of the split was glossy black the bottom half was matte black. Kinda surprised no one noticed the similarity
@@kohakkanuva3224Never seen someone spout bullshit this confident. Aesthetic perception of contrasting texture is a thing, whatever you just faked isn't.
Initial versions are usually over-engineered to reduce early failure rates. A few years and millions of sold units later they have a ton of data that they can use to lower costs.
IMO the similar thermal performance within a smaller chassis is due to the fact that the original PS5 had a 7nm chip and the thermal design was apt for that. When Sony refreshed it with a 6nm die, they found extra thermal headroom which they were able to remove in PS5 Slim while having similar performance, temps and power consumption.
Indeed they do, so this one should be selling for significantly cheaper than the launch model, yet of course greedy Sony are still selling it DEARER than it was at launch! I normally love PlayStations and bought every previous PS system, but since this one has been such a ripoff (with €80 games too!), I and many others still haven't bought one and still won't until they're selling for €400 or less, but €550 for a (refreshed!) three year old system is ridiculous! 😯😐
@@aniketbilenia8740 Hopefully the real Pro model In a year or 2 will bring back some of that overengineered premium design and be a more visually pleasing less cheap aesthetic , though I doubt we ever get anything as spare-no-expense as fat launch model PS3 was , people always talked about the $599 price but that thing was jam packed with the most overall console features and value ever for the year It launched. PS5 has always felt overpriced since launch imo.
Man the PS5’s design is just so off putting in the living room. The PS4 was stealthy, understated and fits well with most setups, colours and geometry.
yeah, I dont have a ps5 but my mum does and it looks like an eye sore in her room. Unlike the ps4 slim thats in the living room where you barely notice it
He needs some good ole Minoxidil. My uncle uses it and there's no shame in it. Also he's right about the PS5, this generation is the weirdest looking of the bunch.
Love your lighting and camera work, very helpful. I agree with your insight about the style, but I also think the potential for customization is much higher. I just wish there were more casing options offered directly by Sony as an additional SKU.
I kinda think Sony went with the new split design because the disc drive add-on probably comes with a shell piece to match when purchased separately, and they wanted to cut the cost of the plastic shell. It does seem like it has the added bonus of more color mix and match options though. I wonder if third party accessories are going to make use of the disc drive port?
The packaging for an add-on disc drive that required a whole side plate would have been a fair bit bigger. And one of the more less-spoken-about aspects of cost reductions in slimming down consoles is the ability to reduce packaging size(and weight). Shipping and warehousing considerations are quite a non-negligible part of costs.
Still no idea why they went with a glossy panel on the top, though :/ Honestly, that and the horizontal """"stand"""" are the worst things about this new version
@andrebrait people where complaining about the old stand in horizontal configuration saying you couldn't move the unit with it falling off, and some other things. I dont sit there and stare at the system, it plays the games and that all i need it to do. Dont care about seeing the plastic feet thing. I think they could have provided a vertical stand with the digital model since it would need the support, but disk model doesn't. Of course you'd have people complaining about that.
Things I really love: the eject button being in a different spot, the much smaller weight and size, the detachable optical drive, the easier expandable storage spot, better i/o Things I don't love: No pro model also being released, the popped color design sticking around, the glossy/matte panels, the power and chip being either the exact same or not noticeably different, no vertical stand
The original PS5 cooling was designed for the 7nm chip. As the node process shrank, the original cooling became "over dimensioned". It will help Sony cut costs while meeting 6nm thermal output more closely.
Power consumption is rated the same with the fat and slim, so same heat amount, 7nm to 6nm is irrelevant regarding heat, it's like original PS3 chip which went from 90nm all the way down to 40, and 200W's of power consumption while gaming down to 80W with the slim.
@@Jaffacall3251 There are 3 different version of the fat PS5. The original chip has a massive copper heat copper heat sink. Then the second version has a smaller but still massive heatsink. Then the latest fat PS5 has that small heatsink because of the newer chip. Pretty sure that is the same chip in the slim since I can't see Sony paying $250M just to do a complete rework of the same chip. Going from 7nm to 6nm is just an optical shrink. But going down to 5nm or 4nm needs a complete rework.
I was so ecstatic when we he removed the glossy top panel and the fan is so open and easily accesible with the screws exposed, finally we dont have to tear the whole thing apart to just clean or change a clogged or failing fan.
The launch PS4 had the line running down the center, and the glossy/matte combo. A design that was very well recieved at the time. I think this is clearly taking its cues from there.
I think the PS4 did it much better though. Like yes technically all the same design choices are here but it just doesn’t look as good imo. It feels like with the PS4 when they were experimenting with designs they tried half-gloss half-matte and liked it the most, whereas for the PS5 they made the decision before seeing any designs and had to try to make it work after the fact.
@@Dimeadozen2088 very much so. Isn't the original ps5 the same one that people were making fun of saying that it looked like a router? All the memes were about it's size and router like appearance.
@@cadenza23 - Personally I think the PS4 Slim and Pro did the best design of any console, they were sleek, simple and nice to look at while still following the leaned back design of the OG PS4 etc. I do think the PS5 and Slim PS5 look cool, but I do wish Sony would have kept with the more boxed look of the PS4 Redesigns and XBOX Consoles, as afterall, it is a CONSOLE that most people will have hidden or something, it is not really some furniture that you stare at all day. - I hope the PS5 Pro if it ever exists goes with a more simple design and not "Chat-GPT, Can you make the PS5 look like an Alien Spaceship/WIFI Router?"...
Those feet and the horizontal placement of the PS5 looks like a luxury hill side mansion house, kinds like those type of house like the one you pull down in GTAV!
My problem is exactly this. The OG ps5 had the ssd located in the front, where cool air is sucked in to the fan, now it is directly above the heatsink fins and a console is rearly set up to pull air in from the back where they exhaust the heat, it would just recirculate the heat. This way the ssd sits in a no mans land directly above a very hot metal object
@@admirkaralic7209 there are m.2 drives that are fast enough to get too hot in themselves in a pc with tons of airflow... in the ps5 they sit in a closed compartment with a cover to make sure they get 0 airflow and now they put the main heatsink directly under it. I think it is risky
I kinda like the four panels set up. To me It gives more options for color panel customizations. If both official or 3rd party color panels are available. Honestly, I like the slim design more.
I think the redeign is quite nice actually from an engineering perspective, especially the tool-less disk slot removal and the super efficient cooling system they were able to come up with. And I can imagine with some sleek matte dark plates, this console would look even better
I agree, I personally prefer it. It has a sleeker design, it's smaller and with some nice darkplates will look great. My issue is more with regards to pricing. Selling the vertical stand separately for £30 just seems kinda slimy. And at the same time the price is increasing.
Don't know why anyone would care what it looks like. It should be capable of playing modern games at modern res and framerates, and sufficiently cool it's hardware. It doesn't do any of those things very well. But it looks cool.
I hated how the PS5 looked when it released, so ugly and clunky and why white? But now I'm glad I got one anyway, because the "updated" version is somehow even more ugly.
Looks fine, I would prefer all matte, but the glossy finish doesn't look bad to me. The 4 piece plates opens the door to more creative designs. I'm fine with the horizontal stand, the original was kind of overengineered and the console never needed a vertical stand, now the new stand, two simple pieces, easy to put in and the console looks cool, like floating.
Same. Waited for that reason. They might use more efficient chips in the model after this, but who knows when. Makes me worried that this will really have worse thermals. I wonder if they put the same Chip because they had production issues with the 5nm or because they first want to empty their inventory of old chips. They are actually rushing the release in the US, so that the Americans can buy it before Black friday. Europe and the rest of the world seem to je getting it months later. I wonder if that's the reason they put a similar or same chip in order to make it in time
@@maythesciencebewithyou It's actually not as easy to just go with 5nm if the original design is on 7nm. The 7nm and 6nm are basically the same, where the "shrinking" is done by just getting better at making the 7nm, but the 5nm is another step in shrinking so the design for the chip has to be done again. They probably could do it, it should be easier to re-design existing 7nm chip to 5nm than to make 5nm chip from scratch, but it still takes engineering and new deals with AMD. It's really not worth it, especially if you want to keep the cost down since 6nm is cheaper than 5nm as well.
this is really good actually they managed to reduce power consumption in the 1200 series and now have reduced the the overall size, they have managed to get a process where the power consumption and body size are independant to each other. they can eventually release a newer version of this being even light when the rest of the industry stops hogging the 3-5 nm chips, there is very likely not enough capacity to accomodate PS5's needs on those processes.
Take your grievances up with Mark Cerny, the engineer. He designed it and already explained why it had to be that way. By the way, Mark Cerny also designed all the PS4 models.
@@shawnbenjamin9636 I've been a playstation owner since 1. I know who Mark Cerny is. While I don't think he himself is a bad designer, I think the societal shift to accept ugly, garbage looking products is the underlying issue. Xbox did it right with their simple and sleek design. I can't stress how much of a nightmare it is to just find a spot to put the damn PS5
@@chrisgg80 It's supposed to be an item that you actually use, not a decoration piece. The fact that it works and does its job should be all that matters.
@@shawnbenjamin9636 The idea that the PS5 *had* to be the way it was is laughable nonsense. I get that most people aren't informed about this stuff enough to 'think for themselves' on this front, but there are definitely plenty of options for them to have gone in a different direction with similar performance. Especially aesthetically, which is what the person was commenting about. Lastly, the Cerny worship among PS fans is bordering on deranged. He's a nice speaker, but a lot of that Road to PS5 video for instance was marketing mistruths.
Pretty sure you want the stand because it vents out from the bottom and if its covered it just traps in heat. If you look at the stand even on the old model it has a nice gap inbetween to allow air to escape.
@@dmannion81there are no vents underneath though. The vents are on the back. Also the vertical stand is flush with the bottom of the ps5. I have no idea what you are talking about.
lol look again dude, it is in fact not flush with the bottom, they have a big gap and have vents. You probably didnt even look and just went by what you thought you remember seeing. it has vents and a gap and you can literally feel the air escaping from the bottom and not just the back of the console. @@GameTimeWhy
Regarding the smaller heatsinks, the latest iteration of the "old" PS5 also had a similar design, so they did die shrink and redesign the thermal system in the PS5 already compared to the launch model and it was enough to significantly reduce the size and weight (also the motherboard was more compact). It seems to me the Slim is just a redesign of the body around that system.
Yeah, makes you wonder why did they even bother with the last shrink in the old case, could have gone straight for the slim and saved on retooling and redesign twice in such a short span.
@@HNedel They're doing the shrinks bc selling PS5's actually costs Sony. I wonder when they will start making a profit from these consoles, and if they will ever announce it to us.
@@DarkAngelEUwhy do the consoles need to make money when they own the game store? It's like the steam deck. The hardware just needs to not hemorrhage money.
Probably, the black line on the side is because of the disc drive. If you buy the digital version, you can still purchase and add the disc drive. It will come with a new side plate section which will be a lot easier to include in the packaging.
There is no way it wouldn't have reduced power draw if it were 5nm. Thats half the reason to do it otherwise it just costs them more despite the die size reduction due to node shrink. The heatsinks are almost the same size as the third revision of the ps5 that was on 6nm.
@@slipperyfish7560The PS3 slim looked more premium than the original fat boy that screamed "LOOK AT ME, I AM EXPENSIVE"? Really can't agree with you there.
@@Nightflash28 haha, true. Have all 3 interactions. Original PS3 was so expensive when it was released but it was still a steal as normal blue rays were even more expensive than the PS3 back then. The threshold was simply too high for general gamer. Ahhh, and that Spider-Man font on og PS3 ❤️. Best shrink was from PS2 to PS2Slim.
@@tomaszstarzZz i love the slim versions of the ps2,3,&4. the original versions r too Big for me. I love the slim versions of 2-4 cause they blend in with the set-ups. the original versions sticks out like a sore thumb😂
I do wonder if there is really anything we're losing with the slim. Stuff like heating, performance and if the cheaper material will hold up in years to come
@@sanfury the fact that is has drm is why its worse. you have to be connected to sonys servers... have an internet connection at first to get the disk drive to work. No Bueno. Not good for preservation of games
Im welling to get a ps5... should i get this one or the old one?? And do i have to be connected to the internet 24/7 if im playing the game using Blu-ray Disc ??
@@unicorntomboy9736I mean it’s not terrible it’s slightly worse than the og ps5 the slim just looks cheap like it came out of wish The big disc drive bump throws me off on the slim
I think its alright. People expect too much. like the ps4 slim wasn’t so different from the original. The point of a slim version is to be smaller + lighter.
PS4 Slim had a revised 16nm chip that was massively more efficient than the original, and also came with a price cut. The original PS4 was also already a reasonably compact machine, so there was less room for improvement on that front. This new PS5 is not a proper Slim model, and it was only done to reduce costs for Sony, all while they've raised prices for us. It's a scumbag move.
Does it have any performance differences? Even if the chip is practically the same, maybe there is anything else that will draw me to buy this instead of the thicc variant?
The only thing that bothers me is the 2 textured panels, however, Dbrand does an amazing job, so I think it would look great with those. Either way, not much of a difference, or at least not enough of one for me to get a "slim". At this point, the only reason I'd get a slim is to take off the disc drive for the 90% of the time I don't use a disc for the aesthetic.
I'm sorry but... why? Who really wants form over function? That's like saying I'm going take the pedals off my bike while I'm not riding it. For the aesthetic.
@@dapperfan44 yeah but it's not really form over function if you don't necessarily need the disc drive for the system to function, is it? Most people nowadays don't even buy discs anymore
@@chaosv1123 sure you can, that wasn't the point he was trying to make though.. he meant that you can have the option to play both digital and discs and still be able to take off the disc drive just for the aesthetic, depending on whichever, that's all
Take some calipers to the die and see if it's the exact same. I don't see how cooling could have dropped that much without a die shrink, unless the last Phat was ready for a shrink but were waiting on a new motherboard and chassis. But if the power use is the exact same I'd really like to see fan noise comparisons.
The original ps5 already had the 6nm shrink with a reduced size heat sink, similar to this one. Apparently they just transferred that design with some tweaking maybe
I guess that's it, the last phat with the GDDR chip reductions and mild die shrink together was already ready to be smaller, it was just waiting on a motherboard and chassis redesign. But if new Slim is the same chip and power wise as the last Phat, I'd like to see a fan acoustics comparison between them @@HNedel
@@tipoomaster i also want to see that. Dave showed that the slim is 1db quieter, but the test was probably not controlled and we don’t know which revision of the original he used.
I've never cared about aesthetics too much when it comes to electronics... until i saw the ps5. I usually wait a few years before upgrading consoles anyways and was kind of holding out for the slim model/ price to go down a tad. Not going to lie Sony caught me off guard with that gloss and plastic feet combo. As far as im aware this is the only console to not be stable on its side without assistance. Idk at least its not literally 10lbs
even ignoring the looks, i think this is the first time a 'Slim' revision of a Playstation comes with no efficiency increase and a price hike. coupled with the much higher MSRP of the games, the PS5 platform is dead to me
Love your vids - no nonsense and informative - but also good to hear your thoughts - for me, this version is looking decidedly cheaper than the previous versions, and those feet look like a disaster waiting to happen (I can see them breaking or not attaching properly). The two panel top/bottom most likely is a callback to the original PS4 visual design language.
I was waiting for a smaller PS5, and this is it, so I guess that's that. I think the Dbrand plates previewed early in the video would definitely class it up-that glossy section is going to start to show dust pretty early on.
@Dave2D So we got 2 USB-C on the front, So is the controller cable in the box USB-C to USB-C ? I mean I don't want to connect the cable from the back every day charging the controllers!
Is it a good update to keep up with the times or a step backwards that will not allow you to insert USB 3.0 flashdrives? XD The stupid opinions on some people are hilarious, and sheep giving you upvotes lmao
@@SPACEMUSIC458usb flash drives? If you mean an external hard drive for PS4 games, you already had to plug those into the rear usb ports, both of witch they kept. Not really sure what else you could mean here, especially because I don’t think the PS5 can just access random external media. I will admit it’s probably a bigger deal if you had one of those USB to 2.4 ghz receivers, but idk if those supported the front port before.
The removal of the usb sucks for sim racers especially if they have external storage. There’s no reason to have multiple USBCs anyways considering it’s main use is for VR and the occasional phone charger. I wouldn’t be surprised if most owners have never used it at all. That’s not even mentioning that the USB ports break very easily.
Hmm, unlike previous slim designs that was very much a redesign from an aesthetic point of view to push sales 3+ years on from launch, this one feels more like a manufacturing optimization design. I guess with the shortage on the original over the past few years they focused on getting more products out there than trying anything fancy.
There was a time when video games used to evoluate in way that it turned no sense to make a game for older generation. Nowadays, while software houses make games for ps4 AND ps5, it shows that something had been lost em games evolution through platforms.
I thought one of the main goals for releasing a slim version was also to cut purchase cost. Like when ps4 slim came out it was $300 instead of $400 like the regular ps4 and then they released a pro model at the $400 price point. So if this slim model is still $500 do we expect the ps5 pro to be $600 or more?
Not just that. A reduced power consumption was also an important point when resigning the consoles. But here it's still the same which makes it this new PS5 entirely pointless unless you don't have space for the big old one
Do not not expect a PS5 Pro, Sony is selling too much PS5 to feel the need to launch a pro edition which will split the console and that may increase the time spent by game developers to design their games.
I removed both covers, those vents and even fan shroud just to improve cooling. It just stands on my desk completely bare and i like the look of it so much more.
I hope third party will make a full panel or a full decal. If not a full decal, make so it doesn't cut the art at the wrong place like cutting the face of your fav character.
The PS4 had 2 panels on the top too (actually 4 sides because it is cut in half by the disc slot), I have a white PS4 and the new PS5 Slim reminds me of that. It is also 2 tone, the panel where the the HDD opens up is shiny and the other is matt.
@@MatrixAlphaCWXMost people don't remember because the PS3 was overpriced when it first came out and it had no games. Xbox 360 was the way to go for the first few years despite the Red Ring of Death.
Yes but black worked a lot better. This honestly feels meh. It's nice but ps3 to ps3 slim was huge and the same for ps4. It felt more improved. Honestly you could chuck on a d brand plate it becomes maybe 15% bigger which isn't worth it much.
Your hairstyle looks amazing! I'm coming back to watch your videos again after some months and the first thing I got impressed with your content is your look 😊
The older PS5 on the 6nm SoC already had a very much reduced motherboard and cooling design. Why Sony waited this long till make the design of the PS5 smaller idk, but here we are with the new slim and the same 6nm SoC.
It's still not easy to do such a large overhaul in design, especially when you're talking about manufacturing these at the scales they do, with tens of millions of these needing to be built. A lot of ducks they've got to get in a row.
This was incredibly insightful. I planned to wait a little longer but I think it’s time because the MK1 experience on PC is lacking. The comparisons were so helpful. Thanks
I think I may have to recant my prior statements about people who buy a disk model having no need for the $80 disc drives. With this design, if the disc drive goes bad, it can be replaced with way more ease and at home with almost zero knowledge.
Hey Dave can you comment on the disc drive requiring an initial internet connection to function? For hardware and even game preservation, it's very worrying.
Obviously he has a phone. People with phones can still use youtube. Duh. Doesn't mean he has broadband internet. Wth world do you live in where everyone has access to high speed internet. Tell me you never lived in the country, without telling me.@@Stanjara
I can see someone making a plate that covers the entire side and is all matte finished like the original PS5 plates. Just a matter of time. Funny that I posted that comment before he mentioned Dbrand making a plate for the new versi9n...lol.
I've never cared what a console looks like. But the best thing about the ps5 is the controller. That thing feels premium as hell. I've got a 200 dollar razor Xbox controller for my pc, and I like the dual sense more than that.
When You have the same power intake, You have to dissipate the same amount of exhaust heat, no matter the production node [nm process in this case]. The heatsinks are more fragmented and the fan has more blades, thus it seems legit, that it cools as well as the fat PS5.
@@leirurock504 true. Anyway, from what I can say, this heatsink is a lot more advanced and "bigger" than the one in "fat" PS5, at least by the first glance.
My guess is, its not too much smaller, so the airflow going thru tighter spaces is still adequate. Might even increase the air speed so it balances out in the end as far as head dissipation goes. I like this teardown video. The manufacturers in cases like this should just do one if odds are high people would do it anyway. They would have all the details we're guessing on.
Good theory, similar to how some gaming laptops can get away with less fans even when pulling more power than other laptops, due to how the air flows through the system. Adding mire fans does not necessarily mean the system will be cooler if the extra air is not going anywhere useful, if you can perfectly control that airflow you may be able to add less fans. It seems to me that due to the console being skinner (not so much smaller but less thickness), this means the air is forced through the system a bit more. This will cool the system down about the same degree in temperature as the system rose due to being shrunk (I am not sure how to type that but you get my point hopefully). - Afterall, Sony designed this so they probably took the thickness into account and found a sweet-spot where it looks decent but also helps the cooling.
i prefer the OG PS5 look, it looks cleaner, but I'm sure there will be some combination that makes the "Slim" look nice. like maybe having two black bottom shells may not look terrible.
The four panels mate and gloss is a callback to the original PS4 and other PlayStations also had a similar two panel design on top like the PS2 slim and PS3 superslim, even if it was only done through text like original PS2 and PS3
Reason they went with 4 panels is because now if you buy a digital only ps5 you can add on the disc drive later on. Then you only have to change out one panel. As for the 2 tone panels with gloss and matt color, Sony has done this in previous consoles. The last slim ps2 had it and the original ps4 had it also.
In my opinion the model CFI-1200 is the best model of PS5, they have a 6nm chip like that Slim, but the thermal dissipation is better than slim version.
So are we going to be able to use a USB-C thumb drive to copy screnshots/clips going forward? Or will we need to reach all the way around to the back and fiddle with the USB-A ports?
Which PS5 looks better? Old or New?
Neither of them
Neither lol
Old model looks more like a Premium unit.
Old
New
The fact that you can replace the disc drive on this without unscrewing one single screw is mindblowing to me, especially in today's time and age where everything appears to become increasingly harder to repair, not easier.
It does have a catch tho. By making it like this and not a "standard" screwy way it means that unless you tear it down completely the PS5 is only compatible with Sony specific disc drives which will be far more expensive than regulars on the market. Although how often does the disc drive break tho? Wouldn't worry too much.
@@TheSilverwolf97very good point. I feel like doing the unscrewing to clean it from dust would be easier than the fat 5?
Half gloss, half matte is an odd choice.
It accentuates the negatives of both.
The base PS4 and one of the slim PS2s did the same matte and gloss
I find it strange they would add a glossy section to the side plate when the middle was already a glossy finish
@@WayStedYou thing is the proportion was different. Idk why but there's this weird psychological thing where the more glossy plastic there is relative to the amount of textured plastic, the more noticeable it is and the more noticeable it is, the less aesthetically pleasing it is.
it is the same from the Playstation 4 - the line break in the middle is just about the same proportions. The top part of the split was glossy black the bottom half was matte black. Kinda surprised no one noticed the similarity
@@kohakkanuva3224Never seen someone spout bullshit this confident. Aesthetic perception of contrasting texture is a thing, whatever you just faked isn't.
Initial versions are usually over-engineered to reduce early failure rates. A few years and millions of sold units later they have a ton of data that they can use to lower costs.
Lol clown
Day 1 launch versions are usually the best build wise for sure and most times aesthetically as well imo.
IMO the similar thermal performance within a smaller chassis is due to the fact that the original PS5 had a 7nm chip and the thermal design was apt for that. When Sony refreshed it with a 6nm die, they found extra thermal headroom which they were able to remove in PS5 Slim while having similar performance, temps and power consumption.
Indeed they do, so this one should be selling for significantly cheaper than the launch model, yet of course greedy Sony are still selling it DEARER than it was at launch!
I normally love PlayStations and bought every previous PS system, but since this one has been such a ripoff (with €80 games too!), I and many others still haven't bought one and still won't until they're selling for €400 or less, but €550 for a (refreshed!) three year old system is ridiculous! 😯😐
@@aniketbilenia8740 Hopefully the real Pro model In a year or 2 will bring back some of that overengineered premium design and be a more visually pleasing less cheap aesthetic , though I doubt we ever get anything as spare-no-expense as fat launch model PS3 was , people always talked about the $599 price but that thing was jam packed with the most overall console features and value ever for the year It launched. PS5 has always felt overpriced since launch imo.
Man the PS5’s design is just so off putting in the living room. The PS4 was stealthy, understated and fits well with most setups, colours and geometry.
yeah, I dont have a ps5 but my mum does and it looks like an eye sore in her room. Unlike the ps4 slim thats in the living room where you barely notice it
I agree 100%. PS4 was way better
The Series X is beautiful. The ps5 is so ugly lol 😂 no one can deny it.
It would look fine with black panels imo
Love my golden modified PS5 🤷🏼♂️
I feel like the longer Dave's hair is, the more videos he posts.
(His insanity is also growing day by day alongside his hair)
@Dandalandan117this is so underrated🎉
The maintenence cost is higher
Good observation
He needs some good ole Minoxidil. My uncle uses it and there's no shame in it. Also he's right about the PS5, this generation is the weirdest looking of the bunch.
those 'stylized vents' are impossible to clean w/o taking everything apart, so makes sense they got rid of them.
Love your lighting and camera work, very helpful. I agree with your insight about the style, but I also think the potential for customization is much higher. I just wish there were more casing options offered directly by Sony as an additional SKU.
I kinda think Sony went with the new split design because the disc drive add-on probably comes with a shell piece to match when purchased separately, and they wanted to cut the cost of the plastic shell. It does seem like it has the added bonus of more color mix and match options though. I wonder if third party accessories are going to make use of the disc drive port?
The packaging for an add-on disc drive that required a whole side plate would have been a fair bit bigger. And one of the more less-spoken-about aspects of cost reductions in slimming down consoles is the ability to reduce packaging size(and weight). Shipping and warehousing considerations are quite a non-negligible part of costs.
Still no idea why they went with a glossy panel on the top, though :/
Honestly, that and the horizontal """"stand"""" are the worst things about this new version
@andrebrait people where complaining about the old stand in horizontal configuration saying you couldn't move the unit with it falling off, and some other things. I dont sit there and stare at the system, it plays the games and that all i need it to do. Dont care about seeing the plastic feet thing.
I think they could have provided a vertical stand with the digital model since it would need the support, but disk model doesn't. Of course you'd have people complaining about that.
@@andrebrait it's a design throwback both to the PS2 Slim and the base PS4, both of which had a half-matte/half-gloss aesthetic.
Maybe after market plates makers could sell a design of only one plate per side?
Things I really love: the eject button being in a different spot, the much smaller weight and size, the detachable optical drive, the easier expandable storage spot, better i/o
Things I don't love: No pro model also being released, the popped color design sticking around, the glossy/matte panels, the power and chip being either the exact same or not noticeably different, no vertical stand
The pro model is rumored for next year around this time if you didn't hear. It was by the Same guy who said this model ps5 is coming.
@@Andre217 oh sick. That's really exciting, thank you for letting me know!
@@ther3aper561 you're welcome now we just wait , and see , but this guy is usually right.
The original PS5 cooling was designed for the 7nm chip. As the node process shrank, the original cooling became "over dimensioned". It will help Sony cut costs while meeting 6nm thermal output more closely.
Power consumption is rated the same with the fat and slim, so same heat amount, 7nm to 6nm is irrelevant regarding heat, it's like original PS3 chip which went from 90nm all the way down to 40, and 200W's of power consumption while gaming down to 80W with the slim.
@@Jaffacall3251 There are 3 different version of the fat PS5. The original chip has a massive copper heat copper heat sink. Then the second version has a smaller but still massive heatsink. Then the latest fat PS5 has that small heatsink because of the newer chip. Pretty sure that is the same chip in the slim since I can't see Sony paying $250M just to do a complete rework of the same chip. Going from 7nm to 6nm is just an optical shrink. But going down to 5nm or 4nm needs a complete rework.
The front vents on PS5 are intakes, not exhaust. 😅
And howvmany versions of the chip?
@@Jaffacall3251 bro the newer fat ps5 has less cooling
I was so ecstatic when we he removed the glossy top panel and the fan is so open and easily accesible with the screws exposed, finally we dont have to tear the whole thing apart to just clean or change a clogged or failing fan.
The launch PS4 had the line running down the center, and the glossy/matte combo. A design that was very well recieved at the time. I think this is clearly taking its cues from there.
Agreed, folks are just wanting to complain
I think the PS4 did it much better though. Like yes technically all the same design choices are here but it just doesn’t look as good imo.
It feels like with the PS4 when they were experimenting with designs they tried half-gloss half-matte and liked it the most, whereas for the PS5 they made the decision before seeing any designs and had to try to make it work after the fact.
@@Dimeadozen2088 very much so. Isn't the original ps5 the same one that people were making fun of saying that it looked like a router? All the memes were about it's size and router like appearance.
@@cadenza23 - Personally I think the PS4 Slim and Pro did the best design of any console, they were sleek, simple and nice to look at while still following the leaned back design of the OG PS4 etc.
I do think the PS5 and Slim PS5 look cool, but I do wish Sony would have kept with the more boxed look of the PS4 Redesigns and XBOX Consoles, as afterall, it is a CONSOLE that most people will have hidden or something, it is not really some furniture that you stare at all day.
- I hope the PS5 Pro if it ever exists goes with a more simple design and not "Chat-GPT, Can you make the PS5 look like an Alien Spaceship/WIFI Router?"...
Those feet and the horizontal placement of the PS5 looks like a luxury hill side mansion house, kinds like those type of house like the one you pull down in GTAV!
2:45 It will be interesting to see how the SSD thermals will be on the slim console considering that it’s located closer towards the cooling fan now.
My problem is exactly this. The OG ps5 had the ssd located in the front, where cool air is sucked in to the fan, now it is directly above the heatsink fins and a console is rearly set up to pull air in from the back where they exhaust the heat, it would just recirculate the heat. This way the ssd sits in a no mans land directly above a very hot metal object
@@norbertnagy4468 Matters not. Thermals will never be hot enough to impact M.2 performance anyway.
@@admirkaralic7209 there are m.2 drives that are fast enough to get too hot in themselves in a pc with tons of airflow... in the ps5 they sit in a closed compartment with a cover to make sure they get 0 airflow and now they put the main heatsink directly under it. I think it is risky
ssd dont run very hot at all and infact you dont want hdd or ssd to run too cool. @@norbertnagy4468
@@norbertnagy4468the ssd is exactly where it's supposed to be in the current PS5. That's why they said to put a heatsink on it.
I kinda like the four panels set up. To me It gives more options for color panel customizations. If both official or 3rd party color panels are available. Honestly, I like the slim design more.
I can't imagine it looking good having that side panel be a different color than the rest.
Thats good for you :)
I think the redeign is quite nice actually from an engineering perspective, especially the tool-less disk slot removal and the super efficient cooling system they were able to come up with. And I can imagine with some sleek matte dark plates, this console would look even better
L opinion
@axolotl8527 instead of making meaningless reply, why not actually give a legit reason. Are you just sheeping behind what people on Twitter are saying
I agree, I personally prefer it. It has a sleeker design, it's smaller and with some nice darkplates will look great.
My issue is more with regards to pricing. Selling the vertical stand separately for £30 just seems kinda slimy. And at the same time the price is increasing.
@@Patrick-y4d1zyes I don't like they' sell it separately but I'm used to it since they did it for PS4 and ps2
His reply wasn't meaningless. The design is so objectively ugly that OP's comment doesn't warrant anything more than the fact it sucks.
I actually prefer this design except for the glossy panelling
I know! I like everything he hates about the new one.
same. and the glossy panel should be fairly easy to remedy.
Dbrand crying right now on the overstock of third party plates
There will be an all-matte black cover for the new PS5 in early 2024.
The fact that it can be easily removed makes it so customization is the solution
Don't know why anyone would care what it looks like. It should be capable of playing modern games at modern res and framerates, and sufficiently cool it's hardware. It doesn't do any of those things very well. But it looks cool.
Definitely prefer the OG version, the new one looks so cheap, I also don’t like the design of the split panels. I’m glad I have the OG version.
I hated how the PS5 looked when it released, so ugly and clunky and why white? But now I'm glad I got one anyway, because the "updated" version is somehow even more ugly.
I kind of like how it looks similar to a ps2 slim from the top down
@@cheezyfriez12 I must have had a totally different PS2 slim to everyone else as mine didn't look anything like this lol
@@mydogeatspukedisagree
wait for the PS5 Pro
Looks fine, I would prefer all matte, but the glossy finish doesn't look bad to me. The 4 piece plates opens the door to more creative designs. I'm fine with the horizontal stand, the original was kind of overengineered and the console never needed a vertical stand, now the new stand, two simple pieces, easy to put in and the console looks cool, like floating.
The 4 panel setup is so you can add the disc drive to the digital version.
The reduced size is good but what i always want on Slim models is the lower power consumption
Same. Waited for that reason. They might use more efficient chips in the model after this, but who knows when. Makes me worried that this will really have worse thermals. I wonder if they put the same Chip because they had production issues with the 5nm or because they first want to empty their inventory of old chips.
They are actually rushing the release in the US, so that the Americans can buy it before Black friday. Europe and the rest of the world seem to je getting it months later. I wonder if that's the reason they put a similar or same chip in order to make it in time
They could have used a newer chip that may not be much more powerful than the original but yet will be much more efficient
same. I'll keep waiting, I don't see the compelling exclusives.
@@maythesciencebewithyou It's actually not as easy to just go with 5nm if the original design is on 7nm. The 7nm and 6nm are basically the same, where the "shrinking" is done by just getting better at making the 7nm, but the 5nm is another step in shrinking so the design for the chip has to be done again. They probably could do it, it should be easier to re-design existing 7nm chip to 5nm than to make 5nm chip from scratch, but it still takes engineering and new deals with AMD. It's really not worth it, especially if you want to keep the cost down since 6nm is cheaper than 5nm as well.
this is really good actually they managed to reduce power consumption in the 1200 series and now have reduced the the overall size, they have managed to get a process where the power consumption and body size are independant to each other. they can eventually release a newer version of this being even light when the rest of the industry stops hogging the 3-5 nm chips, there is very likely not enough capacity to accomodate PS5's needs on those processes.
Sony really needs to get it right next time… They did so well with the PS4 Design. The old and new PS5’s look absolutely atrocious
Take your grievances up with Mark Cerny, the engineer. He designed it and already explained why it had to be that way.
By the way, Mark Cerny also designed all the PS4 models.
@@shawnbenjamin9636 I've been a playstation owner since 1. I know who Mark Cerny is. While I don't think he himself is a bad designer, I think the societal shift to accept ugly, garbage looking products is the underlying issue. Xbox did it right with their simple and sleek design. I can't stress how much of a nightmare it is to just find a spot to put the damn PS5
@@chrisgg80 It's supposed to be an item that you actually use, not a decoration piece. The fact that it works and does its job should be all that matters.
The OG PS5 looks nice
@@shawnbenjamin9636 The idea that the PS5 *had* to be the way it was is laughable nonsense. I get that most people aren't informed about this stuff enough to 'think for themselves' on this front, but there are definitely plenty of options for them to have gone in a different direction with similar performance. Especially aesthetically, which is what the person was commenting about. Lastly, the Cerny worship among PS fans is bordering on deranged. He's a nice speaker, but a lot of that Road to PS5 video for instance was marketing mistruths.
New one has a better chip. It’s well known to never use a ps5 in the vertical position. Many have had the Liquid Metal fail and cause high heat.
Pretty sure you want the stand because it vents out from the bottom and if its covered it just traps in heat. If you look at the stand even on the old model it has a nice gap inbetween to allow air to escape.
It vents out of the back, not the bottom. Just like the regular PS5.
@@EversonBernardes next time you play, put your hand underneath where the gap is and you'll literally feel hot air escaping.
@@dmannion81there are no vents underneath though. The vents are on the back. Also the vertical stand is flush with the bottom of the ps5. I have no idea what you are talking about.
lol look again dude, it is in fact not flush with the bottom, they have a big gap and have vents. You probably didnt even look and just went by what you thought you remember seeing. it has vents and a gap and you can literally feel the air escaping from the bottom and not just the back of the console. @@GameTimeWhy
@@dmannion81 it 100% does not have air vents at the bottom of the console you weirdo. Are you trolling?
Regarding the smaller heatsinks, the latest iteration of the "old" PS5 also had a similar design, so they did die shrink and redesign the thermal system in the PS5 already compared to the launch model and it was enough to significantly reduce the size and weight (also the motherboard was more compact). It seems to me the Slim is just a redesign of the body around that system.
Yeah, makes you wonder why did they even bother with the last shrink in the old case, could have gone straight for the slim and saved on retooling and redesign twice in such a short span.
@@HNedel They're doing the shrinks bc selling PS5's actually costs Sony. I wonder when they will start making a profit from these consoles, and if they will ever announce it to us.
@@DarkAngelEUwhy do the consoles need to make money when they own the game store? It's like the steam deck. The hardware just needs to not hemorrhage money.
Sony doesn't own game stores, dude lol@@GameTimeWhy
@@DarkAngelEU are you trolling? Wtf is the PlayStation store if not Sony's game store?
Probably, the black line on the side is because of the disc drive. If you buy the digital version, you can still purchase and add the disc drive. It will come with a new side plate section which will be a lot easier to include in the packaging.
There is no way it wouldn't have reduced power draw if it were 5nm.
Thats half the reason to do it otherwise it just costs them more despite the die size reduction due to node shrink.
The heatsinks are almost the same size as the third revision of the ps5 that was on 6nm.
Once it’s under the TV I couldn’t care less what it looks like.
once it powered up with 4k 120hz tv. i don’t care how it looks. we didn’t carry it out like handphone or drive it around like a mazda😂
@@fendi2785 should be oled tv
All companies should give atleast 1tb ssd in basic model because all new games comes over 100gb plus.
Great insights into changed thermals and memory chip. Original consoles were always looking more premium than the slimmed versions.
I feel like the slim PS3 and PS4 look more premium just by omitting the glossy plastic, this slim version of the PS5 goes the opposite way.
@@slipperyfish7560The PS3 slim looked more premium than the original fat boy that screamed "LOOK AT ME, I AM EXPENSIVE"? Really can't agree with you there.
@@Nightflash28 haha, true. Have all 3 interactions. Original PS3 was so expensive when it was released but it was still a steal as normal blue rays were even more expensive than the PS3 back then. The threshold was simply too high for general gamer. Ahhh, and that Spider-Man font on og PS3 ❤️.
Best shrink was from PS2 to PS2Slim.
@@Nightflash28PS3 Slim is awesome in every aspect.
@@tomaszstarzZz i love the slim versions of the ps2,3,&4. the original versions r too Big for me. I love the slim versions of 2-4 cause they blend in with the set-ups. the original versions sticks out like a sore thumb😂
I do wonder if there is really anything we're losing with the slim. Stuff like heating, performance and if the cheaper material will hold up in years to come
Yeah probably made cheaper. Also the disk drive has drm so you're getting a worse disk drive
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@@shahgyyin what sense is it worse?
@@sanfury do you know what DRM is?
@@sanfury the fact that is has drm is why its worse. you have to be connected to sonys servers... have an internet connection at first to get the disk drive to work. No Bueno. Not good for preservation of games
Im welling to get a ps5... should i get this one or the old one?? And do i have to be connected to the internet 24/7 if im playing the game using Blu-ray Disc ??
The inner panel looks so clean. If someone make a transparent outer panel it will looks really cool i bet.
Personally, I think the old design looks better and still lives up to the hype
Exactly and looks premium unlike the terrible Slim.
@@dericjames2018It's not terrible. You are being hyperbolic
@@unicorntomboy9736I mean it’s not terrible it’s slightly worse than the og ps5 the slim just looks cheap like it came out of wish
The big disc drive bump throws me off on the slim
@@meenakshirattan9658 Just buy the digital model then
@@unicorntomboy9736 who would buy a digital? - _- I would rather buy a OG disc ps5
This man pulling ps5 from under the table and I can’t even find one in real life 😂
Wow first video I'm seeing the PS5 SLIM not being the PlayStation channel, great video Dave ❤
I think its alright. People expect too much. like the ps4 slim wasn’t so different from the original. The point of a slim version is to be smaller + lighter.
PS4 Slim had a revised 16nm chip that was massively more efficient than the original, and also came with a price cut. The original PS4 was also already a reasonably compact machine, so there was less room for improvement on that front. This new PS5 is not a proper Slim model, and it was only done to reduce costs for Sony, all while they've raised prices for us. It's a scumbag move.
I like the single panel design over the newer one. However, the smaller size is a big plus.
Does it have any performance differences? Even if the chip is practically the same, maybe there is anything else that will draw me to buy this instead of the thicc variant?
Nope, everything runs exactly the same
@@wmvnotmp4 Thanks, I think I will get the thicc variant instead. The design looks a bit uniform at least.
The only thing that bothers me is the 2 textured panels, however, Dbrand does an amazing job, so I think it would look great with those. Either way, not much of a difference, or at least not enough of one for me to get a "slim". At this point, the only reason I'd get a slim is to take off the disc drive for the 90% of the time I don't use a disc for the aesthetic.
I'm sorry but... why? Who really wants form over function? That's like saying I'm going take the pedals off my bike while I'm not riding it. For the aesthetic.
@@dapperfan44 yeah but it's not really form over function if you don't necessarily need the disc drive for the system to function, is it? Most people nowadays don't even buy discs anymore
@@MrGabrielandraderyou can just buy the digital version I'm sure
@@chaosv1123 sure you can, that wasn't the point he was trying to make though.. he meant that you can have the option to play both digital and discs and still be able to take off the disc drive just for the aesthetic, depending on whichever, that's all
@@MrGabrielandrader oh I see
Trust me. This is what ppl are saying about ps.
2023: Wait until ps5 slim
2024: Wait until ps5 pro
2025: wait until ps6
Take some calipers to the die and see if it's the exact same. I don't see how cooling could have dropped that much without a die shrink, unless the last Phat was ready for a shrink but were waiting on a new motherboard and chassis. But if the power use is the exact same I'd really like to see fan noise comparisons.
The original ps5 already had the 6nm shrink with a reduced size heat sink, similar to this one. Apparently they just transferred that design with some tweaking maybe
I guess that's it, the last phat with the GDDR chip reductions and mild die shrink together was already ready to be smaller, it was just waiting on a motherboard and chassis redesign. But if new Slim is the same chip and power wise as the last Phat, I'd like to see a fan acoustics comparison between them @@HNedel
@@tipoomaster i also want to see that. Dave showed that the slim is 1db quieter, but the test was probably not controlled and we don’t know which revision of the original he used.
I've never cared about aesthetics too much when it comes to electronics... until i saw the ps5. I usually wait a few years before upgrading consoles anyways and was kind of holding out for the slim model/ price to go down a tad. Not going to lie Sony caught me off guard with that gloss and plastic feet combo. As far as im aware this is the only console to not be stable on its side without assistance. Idk at least its not literally 10lbs
even ignoring the looks, i think this is the first time a 'Slim' revision of a Playstation comes with no efficiency increase and a price hike. coupled with the much higher MSRP of the games, the PS5 platform is dead to me
Dave is killing it lately what a guy
Love your vids - no nonsense and informative - but also good to hear your thoughts - for me, this version is looking decidedly cheaper than the previous versions, and those feet look like a disaster waiting to happen (I can see them breaking or not attaching properly). The two panel top/bottom most likely is a callback to the original PS4 visual design language.
I was waiting for a smaller PS5, and this is it, so I guess that's that. I think the Dbrand plates previewed early in the video would definitely class it up-that glossy section is going to start to show dust pretty early on.
Wow, amazing tear down, so easy it looks like. Thanks Dave for showing the tear down 👍👍
I think the 2-tone design looks beautiful and when it’s places horizontally it looks like the top part is floating, very futuristic
It looks dumb, especially horizontally due to the idiotic shape.
Oooooh, futuristic.
@@dindinj2875woooow it’s so cool now when horizontal 😮the “future”
@Dave2D
So we got 2 USB-C on the front, So is the controller cable in the box USB-C to USB-C ? I mean I don't want to connect the cable from the back every day charging the controllers!
I miss my PS2 Slim. I should have never sold it. What a fine piece it was lol
sanırım onu koyacak yer bulamıyacağını düşündün asla satmamalıydın şimdi o retro oldu hahaha
I actually really like the new look. 2 USBC ports is a nice update to keep up with the times. But man, that horizontal stand is terrrible.
Is it a good update to keep up with the times or a step backwards that will not allow you to insert USB 3.0 flashdrives? XD The stupid opinions on some people are hilarious, and sheep giving you upvotes lmao
@@SPACEMUSIC458 🍼here’s your milk whittle baby 💖
@@joeyjordan185 Touch some grass
@@SPACEMUSIC458usb flash drives? If you mean an external hard drive for PS4 games, you already had to plug those into the rear usb ports, both of witch they kept. Not really sure what else you could mean here, especially because I don’t think the PS5 can just access random external media.
I will admit it’s probably a bigger deal if you had one of those USB to 2.4 ghz receivers, but idk if those supported the front port before.
The removal of the usb sucks for sim racers especially if they have external storage. There’s no reason to have multiple USBCs anyways considering it’s main use is for VR and the occasional phone charger. I wouldn’t be surprised if most owners have never used it at all. That’s not even mentioning that the USB ports break very easily.
I really want the digital but only the disc version is available. I was wondering if I would be able to convert a disc into a digital
Hmm, unlike previous slim designs that was very much a redesign from an aesthetic point of view to push sales 3+ years on from launch, this one feels more like a manufacturing optimization design. I guess with the shortage on the original over the past few years they focused on getting more products out there than trying anything fancy.
The most surprising thing is that they're still using liquid metal.
Why is that surprising
The last thing we’re you want to get information is ltt
Man, your videos keep getting better and better. Thanks for being such a good communicator.
The real question I wanna know is if Dave puts the console back together after he's done making the video.
Ofc he does. He opens up every significant piece of tech which needs opening. He knows his stuff.
The color and line tricks your eyes into thinking it's a mini fridge
Finally a hands on review
nice teardown. what about the fan noise?
Pretty much identical to 1200 series ps5. About 43-45dB on full load
@@Dave2Ddoes the new PS5 have LED lights like the OG model does?
Everyone’s complaining about how this looks. It plays games exactly like before. It’s not a real big deal.
Dave's hairstyle is a gift that keeps on giving, looks hella dope
It really doesn't though lol
@@seanmcgonigle1182they will say whatever it takes to get likes on youtube
Old model looks more Premium.
There was a time when video games used to evoluate in way that it turned no sense to make a game for older generation. Nowadays, while software houses make games for ps4 AND ps5, it shows that something had been lost em games evolution through platforms.
I thought one of the main goals for releasing a slim version was also to cut purchase cost. Like when ps4 slim came out it was $300 instead of $400 like the regular ps4 and then they released a pro model at the $400 price point. So if this slim model is still $500 do we expect the ps5 pro to be $600 or more?
Bingo 🫶🏻
Not just that. A reduced power consumption was also an important point when resigning the consoles. But here it's still the same which makes it this new PS5 entirely pointless unless you don't have space for the big old one
Do not not expect a PS5 Pro, Sony is selling too much PS5 to feel the need to launch a pro edition which will split the console and that may increase the time spent by game developers to design their games.
I reckon the removal of the fan/exhaust vents is a good thing. The vents attract so much dust and makes it slower to clean than it should be
You mean the dust that gets captured there that would have gone into the fan otherwise?
I removed both covers, those vents and even fan shroud just to improve cooling. It just stands on my desk completely bare and i like the look of it so much more.
I hope third party will make a full panel or a full decal. If not a full decal, make so it doesn't cut the art at the wrong place like cutting the face of your fav character.
The PS4 had 2 panels on the top too (actually 4 sides because it is cut in half by the disc slot), I have a white PS4 and the new PS5 Slim reminds me of that. It is also 2 tone, the panel where the the HDD opens up is shiny and the other is matt.
so did the ps2, loved both their designs especially the ps2 slim
The later revisions of the PS4s replaced the touch buttons with analog ones and made the glossy panel matt. (Not the slim just a revision of base PS4)
And Fat PS3 was ALL glossy. Lol.
They are (New) gamers if they don't know this.
@@MatrixAlphaCWXMost people don't remember because the PS3 was overpriced when it first came out and it had no games. Xbox 360 was the way to go for the first few years despite the Red Ring of Death.
Yes but black worked a lot better. This honestly feels meh. It's nice but ps3 to ps3 slim was huge and the same for ps4. It felt more improved. Honestly you could chuck on a d brand plate it becomes maybe 15% bigger which isn't worth it much.
Your hairstyle looks amazing! I'm coming back to watch your videos again after some months and the first thing I got impressed with your content is your look 😊
Honestly at this point I'm thinking about waiting for the PS6
The older PS5 on the 6nm SoC already had a very much reduced motherboard and cooling design. Why Sony waited this long till make the design of the PS5 smaller idk, but here we are with the new slim and the same 6nm SoC.
It's still not easy to do such a large overhaul in design, especially when you're talking about manufacturing these at the scales they do, with tens of millions of these needing to be built. A lot of ducks they've got to get in a row.
This was incredibly insightful. I planned to wait a little longer but I think it’s time because the MK1 experience on PC is lacking. The comparisons were so helpful. Thanks
So what did you end up getting?
The PS5 SLim!@@DillanIsrael
I think I may have to recant my prior statements about people who buy a disk model having no need for the $80 disc drives. With this design, if the disc drive goes bad, it can be replaced with way more ease and at home with almost zero knowledge.
Hey Dave can you comment on the disc drive requiring an initial internet connection to function? For hardware and even game preservation, it's very worrying.
How did you even wrote this comment without the internet?
If you do not have internet.
Connect the PS5 Slim to your Mobile Phone Hotspot.
Verify the disc drive once and disconnect.
It's that simple.
Obviously he has a phone. People with phones can still use youtube. Duh.
Doesn't mean he has broadband internet.
Wth world do you live in where everyone has access to high speed internet.
Tell me you never lived in the country, without telling me.@@Stanjara
Dave’s content, top notch as usual!
2:15 It’s pretty obvious that gap is there to improve airflow, help control the thermals of a smaller housing
Wait that looks really nice! But I’ll stick with the base model. I have no reason to upgrade at least not yet.
Dave, you rock
Thanks for the analysis and the breakdown
I can see someone making a plate that covers the entire side and is all matte finished like the original PS5 plates. Just a matter of time.
Funny that I posted that comment before he mentioned Dbrand making a plate for the new versi9n...lol.
They should have hired DIYPerks for the design..
I've never cared what a console looks like. But the best thing about the ps5 is the controller. That thing feels premium as hell. I've got a 200 dollar razor Xbox controller for my pc, and I like the dual sense more than that.
Smaller design means smaller heat sink, wouldn’t this in practical term results in hotter air coming out the slim?
Man your camera and lightning setup makes these vids look so good
When You have the same power intake, You have to dissipate the same amount of exhaust heat, no matter the production node [nm process in this case]. The heatsinks are more fragmented and the fan has more blades, thus it seems legit, that it cools as well as the fat PS5.
Right, and with smaller area to cover that heat would be logical to say it's more efficient?
@@leirurock504 true. Anyway, from what I can say, this heatsink is a lot more advanced and "bigger" than the one in "fat" PS5, at least by the first glance.
Someone please just answer my question. Will the "slim" version be louder than the OG model. I cannot have another ps4 OG jet engine
My guess is, its not too much smaller, so the airflow going thru tighter spaces is still adequate. Might even increase the air speed so it balances out in the end as far as head dissipation goes. I like this teardown video. The manufacturers in cases like this should just do one if odds are high people would do it anyway. They would have all the details we're guessing on.
Good theory, similar to how some gaming laptops can get away with less fans even when pulling more power than other laptops, due to how the air flows through the system.
Adding mire fans does not necessarily mean the system will be cooler if the extra air is not going anywhere useful, if you can perfectly control that airflow you may be able to add less fans.
It seems to me that due to the console being skinner (not so much smaller but less thickness), this means the air is forced through the system a bit more. This will cool the system down about the same degree in temperature as the system rose due to being shrunk (I am not sure how to type that but you get my point hopefully).
- Afterall, Sony designed this so they probably took the thickness into account and found a sweet-spot where it looks decent but also helps the cooling.
i prefer the OG PS5 look, it looks cleaner, but I'm sure there will be some combination that makes the "Slim" look nice. like maybe having two black bottom shells may not look terrible.
So with the disc version would I be able to just remove the drive and buy a flat cover that covers where the drive should be?
The four panels mate and gloss is a callback to the original PS4 and other PlayStations also had a similar two panel design on top like the PS2 slim and PS3 superslim, even if it was only done through text like original PS2 and PS3
Reason they went with 4 panels is because now if you buy a digital only ps5 you can add on the disc drive later on. Then you only have to change out one panel. As for the 2 tone panels with gloss and matt color, Sony has done this in previous consoles. The last slim ps2 had it and the original ps4 had it also.
Why use a white backdrop when comparing two white consoles?
The old definitely looks so much better😍
In my opinion the model CFI-1200 is the best model of PS5, they have a 6nm chip like that Slim, but the thermal dissipation is better than slim version.
true thats was my ps5 model, It never overheated on me like ever, but had to sell it
I would really like to know what camera support you are using here 8:54?
I was hoping for somenthing like the PS4, square and compact. I personally don't like the curved design of both PS5.
Wonderful video! I liked this new redesign but the plastic support "solution" is a shame.
So are we going to be able to use a USB-C thumb drive to copy screnshots/clips going forward? Or will we need to reach all the way around to the back and fiddle with the USB-A ports?