How to pick a PHOTO SHAPE! | Stills in Motion Ep.4
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
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I'm in The Peak District for episode 4 of Stills in Motion, and today I'm talking about Photography Aspect Ratios, and why aspect ratios were a huge part of my decision to shoot with Micro Four Thirds. I also talk about how I post process with different aspect ratios for printing and client work.
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I'm loving the consistency and quality of this series James, keep it up!
Cheers man! :)
You don’t know how happy I was to hear that this is a virus free video.
haha!
Love these 1st person videos. Would definitely give a 2 hour one a go alright, it could be interesting! I got Lyme’s last year so definitely be cautious in forests. It’s not fun. There’s a Corona and Lyme’s joke in this...
haha! I didn't even think of that - nice! But yes no joke...
Agree - 4:3 is particularly nice for portraits and verticals.
Love the trees so tired of looking at Iceland and mountains in photography videos i watch a lot of different ppl
Your refreshing !
I really appreciate your new series. Keep it up!
Lots of great advice there James. You always make your videos so entertaining and don't take yourself too seriously which is why you are, by far, my favourite photographer on RUclips. You put the fun in photography :-)
Very much enjoying this series & welcome break from all the news. I've never given this any thought but I'm still so very much a beginner. Hopefully can get outside today and will give it a go.
I never considered the Aspect Ratio in my reasoning for getting into and staying in Micro Four Thirds since 2010, but you make it sound reasonable enough to make me feel smart about the decision :P ... I am still on the other side of your fence though James, just got my Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark III :)
Nice video James! Getting into the outdoors is the perfect way to escape the current chaos! Keep yourself and family safe!
Cheers Owen, you too 🙂
I'm so glad I paid attention to this one because at 2:55 you said "as long as I shoot in RAW I don't lose any of the data outside of that crop." That wasn't true with older Panasonic cameras (they used to crop the RAWs) so I had that ingrained in my habits and was avoiding setting other aspects for framing, even in my more recent cameras... until now! Now I can return to setting aspects again!
I really love this kind of video. Keep it up
Looking very much forward to the new book!!
Thanks so much :)
Very interesting perspective on something that I usually don't really think about until I'm editing and reviewing images.
In terms of a 2 hour raw GoPro walk about. personally that wouldn't be something for me.
Thanks again for the great content.
Beautiful images Adam! Loved the video!!
Can't wait for the book! 📖🙌🏼
Cheers buddy! 🙂
Big fan of the first person videos. Interesting to see how your thought process works!
Thanks 🙂
I used to often shoot in 3:2 because when I printed it would fill the usual photo paper and I liked the classic look. However, a couple of years ago I switched to 4:3 because I was taking more macro shots which I feel benefit from this aspect ratio. I prefer 4:3 now and it is also handy that the sensor size is 4:3 :-) I do sometimes crop to another aspect ratio, sometimes if it is of a landscape because I want to create a wider look.
Thank you! This inspired me to try and create a series of photos with square or close to square (like 4:3) aspect ratio! I'm excited where this will lead me!
Nice one, I've been going back and forth between 2:3 and 4:3 (fuji/lumix), thanks for this. Love that location, even with the light, you did a great job of making it fun. Also I vote no on the 2hr unedited Gopro video. If folks want that they should go to one of your workshops so you make a little more cash .
Cheers Pat :)
Pat McDonnell actually that is a good point about the uncut videos. 👍🏻
Glad I'm not the only one who prefers the 4:3 aspect ratio...even when I use(d) a camera with a 3:2 sensor, I would often compose with 4:3 in mind, then crop later. Loving this series, btw!
Thank you for this information. Honestly, I haven’t given aspect ratio much thought. I should.
Blimey I'd forgotten all about that place, haven't climbed there in years, must go back and reminisce cheers 👍
A long way for me to go now I'm in Perth Oz but I loved climbing there and even walking through there to Grindleford cafe or station.
Can’t wait for the book. I will be ordering one 👍🏻 also looking forward to the backpack announcement as you seemed excited about it. Might be cool to watch an uncut video, I usually struggle to watch anything that’s long (just due to time constraints) but I could watch it in 10-15 minute chunks. Also I’m really tempted to save up for a G9. I’ve only been taking photos for about 8 months though so it’s probably a stupid idea and The G80 is really nice to use. Decisions decisions 🙂 stay safe too 🤞🏻
That was fun, thanks Mr Popsys
Thanks for watching 🙂
Very enjoyable vid - thanks! I used to have trouble with "tight briefs" as well, but since I switched to boxer shorts, things are much more comfortable 😋.
Thanks for your take on aspect ratios. Stay safe.
I agree with you James about bright days being really useful for practicing your photography. I use them to explore different compositions that I might want to return to at a later date. I know that is quite an old school approach but it seems to be working OK for me at the moment.
Regarding aspect ratios I generally stick to 16:9 for RUclips, Facebook, Twitter and my website, 4:5 for Instagram and A sizes for prints. You've got me thinking about working in 1:1 which I think might really suit more the intimate landscapes which I am working on at the moment.
12:47 Yeah no problem. It actually calms me down because now I see that even you don’t get only awesome shots.
haha, awesome :)
Just pre-ordered your book James. Happy to wait for it given the unmentionable going on in the world at the moment. You & Emily take care. We in NZ are in lockdown for four weeks, just enjoyed a trip down to the South Island so a few photos to keep me going for a while.
3:2 I think is the standard on the d500 and honestly I got so used to it for my sunset photography, or any for that matter, that I don't really change it. On the other hand for the aviation stuff I do, I usually do 16x9 wide.
3:2 is the standard on all APS-C and full frame cameras because that's the way the sensors are shaped. So yeah, that'd be what your D500 shoots.
It's M4/3, most typical medium format cameras (some are 3:2), and most point-and-shoots that are 4:3 by nature.
Nice video James! I was surprised to see what there are very few videos regarding 4:3 aspect ratio vs 3:2. Personally, for me it was hardest part after switching to m43. All my life I were shooting on 3:2 (except some short time on 645), so I were looking at the world and planing my shot using 3:2 and at the first weeks with m43, everytime I had a slight "oops moment" - image in viewfinder is different :) but honestly I totally agree with you - 4:3 is very convenient. Not too wide for horizontal, not too narrow for verticals. Thanks again for bringing this topic and creating dedicated video.
Another Great one :)
Cheers mate :)
I could definitely go in for a long unedited video, I love to see the process from a pro's perspective
Thanks for covering the topic and explaining your rational approach. I also shoot micro 4:3 partly because of the aspect ratio. Funny how I remember advice from two professionals - who I respect enormously; one who said to always let the scene dictate the crop and another who said to always set the crop in the field according to the intended display. I suppose that's why it's important to learn from several teachers.
Definitely Stewart! Everyone has their process :)
"Don't judge me on these photos"
**takes magnificent photo**
I like all formats and is difficult to me to change it afterwards in PS, they look good the way i shoot them.
Saturday is Popsys day :)
I'd love if that was official. It's the best day to own...
@@JamesPopsysPhoto It’s official to me in my house..... its a start at least.....
It's fascinating to see a video in a place that I frequent and to get another persons perspective on how they shoot that location, you will occasionally get deer in that area but they are for more prevalent on the moors to the southeast around the estate and woods in the area. Anyway I just wanted to say that I'm loving the series and always look forward to the next instalment.
Ahhha! Good tip, thanks and maybe see you around :)
When I shoot on full automatic on my GH5, I shoot 4:3 and get just JPG files but when I shoot manual I shot 16:9 JPG + RAW because i usually post my pictures on Facebook and want to fill a normal monitor and JPGs are quicker to browse through in windows since RAWs aren't natively supported
Switched to 16x9 for almost all crops about two years ago and never looked back. I just realized that with 95% of the enjoyment/viewing being on phones/TVs/digital picture frames, I should just give in and use the available real estate. I've come to love it now and can see the crop in-camera as I've just trained myself to ignore the areas I know I'll crop.
love your channel just bumped to it today very informative and virus free i did not have to hear about this crap unlike other great youtubers went away from their niche to just get traffic. I just bought g85 switching over from my Nikon D7000, now I'll be using only my gopro 8 and Lumix G85 after ill get a hang of it.
On the Lumix LX100ii (probably the first version as well, but I have only got the second version). You get to choose aspect ratio on the lens itself. I have had fun using it. It is the same as other Lumix cameras in the menus...but different in terms of dials. It is a really good pocket camera, the best I have ever used.
Aspect ratio is an important part of composition and really helps you tell a story. I you shoot wide - it accentuates horizontal lines (e.g. shooting a bunch of uniform trees will accentuate how many trees there are). If you shoot vertical.... it accentuates the vertical lines (e.g. so in the same area - you would be accentuating the height of the trees). As you move closer to square - you move to a situation where you are saying their importance is equal. I typically shoot in my cameras standard aspect ratio.... but am consciously thinking of how the elements should interact (your jigsaw puzzle pieces).
Great video on an often overlooked topic. I've been on 3:2 for almost my entire photographic life, but recently (partly due to Instagram) found myself shooting 1:1 on studio portraits more often. You made a very compelling argument for MFT though... Should dive into that as well. As you said, practice practice...
Some of the first videos I watched when I got my camera said to fill the frame. That's what I did. They didn't mention choosing an aspect ratio or leaving room around the subject to crop if you needed a different aspect ratio. I learned that lesson the hard way. I try to use different composition rules but I leave a little room in case I want to crop. I have both an APS-C camera and a full frame camera. I mainly shoot in 3:2 ratio. If I'm taking portraits for someone I don't know what size print they'll want. They may want several different size prints of a particular pose. I know I can switch the ratio in camera with the same pose but then it's not very efficient.
I use a FF DSLR with a 30 MP sensor. So, since that's pretty flexible for cropping, I compose using the full 3:2 ratio (the colon denotes a ratio BTW). I usually have a 4:3 or 5:4 final image in mind but I shoot wider to leave room for cropping or resizing if needed.
Makes sense John! 30mp is plenty :)
Entertaining, great visual appeal, solid strategy & technique advice, and a good classic exercise demonstration. You fired on all cylinders as usual.
The first person perspective was nice, as was showing the subtle framing differences at the pond. Narrowing down the perspective choices at the end of the process is probably one of the biggest factors in squeezing the best image out of what is in front of you.
Cheers Mike, much appreciated :)
I shoot my native 2:3 ratio for horizontal but find myself cropping to 4:5 often on vertical shots. That being said I'm not afraid to go ham on the crop in post.
Great video as always... I was there this Saturday just gone, one of my favourite places :-) Also I have done a similar experiment at this location. I have been there with just the Wide angle then next visit a telephoto rather than swapping out lenses. Its then great to compare both sets of images to see how you can get the most from each lens, what works and what don't. Also I was surprised how many good compositions I could find with the telephoto I couldn't see with the wide angle, will try different crop ratios next :-)
James, I ended up on Fuji but I love your videos and I love M4:3 Olympus and Panasonic cameras.
Cheers mate 🙂
Thank you for sanitizing this video for my protection.
Shooting in 4:3 aspect ratio has the advantage that you can later crop the pictures to the other aspect ratios. The trick is to shoot with attention to heights or avoid use all 4:3 limits and provide some croppable space for later choose other aspect ratios. It's like when we shoot video and has a project with intentions to a wider aspect ratio than 16:9 and has to be carefully about how we frame and avoid all the 16:9 aspect limits.
This is one of the things I like about m43 cameras over full frame. I assigned a custom button to aspect ratios on my m43 for quick access to them and I love it. I’ll usually choose my m43 over my full frame if I’m going to the park on a sunny day to practice shooting. Most likely not going to get anything large print worthy and the aspect ratios help to spark my creativity with compositions.
Um, you can choose the same aspect ratios on a full frame as a m43. My full frame has the same choice in aspect ratios as him m43. So I am not sure what the one thing you like about m43 over full frame other then image quality suffers the larger you print.
Eccentric Smithy I was referring to the custom button setup for quick access to aspect ratios. Not all cameras offer aspect ratio as one of the custom buttons.
I do mostly street photography and some nature/landscape. In both genres I find 4:3 to be more pleasing to the eye and helping the composition. Maybe it's because I grew up with this as the TV ratio, maybe it's because to me it represents the best of both worlds, sort of between square and rectangular ratios.
That said, I shoot with a Fuji mirrorless with a 3:2 sensor and crop in PP.
The moss is beautiful i love it
Another great video! I quite like 3 x 2, but I understand your point regarding 4 x 3 and practicing with 1 x 1.
Also, I think that your not-so-good photos are amazing! Hehehe
Cheers Raul :)
Great video James, are there any chest mounted gimbals you could use?... or at least de-fish options in post that may easy some of the motion sickness especially if you do an un-cut roam around style :-)
i actually learned a lot by watching a POV photography. when you put the gopro on your chest and just take pictures. i would love it if you did some of those videos
Good Video looks like mist moved here. I rarely get it just as you were talking I glanced out and there it was. Time for me to go outdoors
Nice! Enjoy 🙂
Funny the 1x1 aspect ratio. I just finished pulling my Hasselblad 500cm kit out and photographing it for eBay. 6x6 that.
Thanks for the vid, James! What I enjoy about even these videos is that you don’t just say we should still go out on bad days but rather you do it yourself and try to make the most of it. Is there any possibility that you might run a contest partnered with LUMIX?
Interesting that you mention film, I shot mainly 35mm and now I usually lean towards 3:2. I do agree that 4:3 suits your subject really well, I think I'll do some more 4:3 myself and see how it goes.
Have fun mate 🙂
These days, I mostly shoot m43 and I would definitely agree with you that 4:3 works wonders most of the time. That said, I like 3:2 horizontal for landscapes and have no problem making photos I like with that aspect ratio for the kind of stuff I do. But 3:2 vertical? Way too long. For me. Speaking of which... Maybe that's exactly what I should do: only shoot 3:2 in portrait orientation for a while, as an exercise. As for 1:1, I like it but find I really have to think in a different way to frame squares. I remember someone telling me recently how he thought we should rely on diagonals for those. Definitely worth thinking more about. Oh and I do shoot 1:1 every now and then, when I know I'm going to use my portable printer. Which I do every time I photograph a live gig at a cafe. But it tends to feel a bit like a gimmick to me. It does help (force!) me and include some of the audience but still.
Anyway, thanks for another fine video. And I did like some of the photos you made on that day. Not what you wanted to create. Probably not your best work. But I did like 'em.
Hi James
Interesting vlog I've often wondered why certain photographers choose an aspect ratio for their images, something I dont often think of when in the field.
Is that Lawrencefield Crag where you opened the vlog I remembered it from my climbing days back in the UK? A long way for me to go now I'm in Perth Oz but I loved climbing there and even walking through there to Grindleford cafe or station as its such a lovely walk.
Cheers
Carl
Love the format of your Stills in Motion series! Keep it up! Secondly, where can I find a link to purchase your new book. (The link in your info takes me to a page for the 2018 book.).
I'll be up mid-week, I'll make a video about it :)
Thank for the video James! Your GoPro footage doesn’t bother me at all but maybe switching to the linear setting or reducing the lens distortion in post may help other people feel less nauseous? Like the idea of switching to a head mount as well. Can’t please everyone!
Hi James! How do I find out what sensor size my camera has? I've been shooting stills and for RUclips thumbs, I do 16x9 but aside from that, I've been shooting in 4x3 and I feel like, I get a less stretched-out look to my food when I'm in 4x3. I don't know what the : is there either instead of the x - Sorry you didn't get any mist but thank you so much for doing this video. I am currently playing in different ratios for different platforms, so this was helpful.
I came back to say that I found out what my camera ratio was. I didn't even know cameras were a particular one. I just thought I could change it and shoot all over. But ... I'm learning and that's the fun. Cheers.
I've been curious. Who is do you use to make your books? And what type of style or "quality" of book do normally use?
Weirdly, a couple months ago, the whole idea of crop got me curious, so I took a circle (representing the lens's imaging circle), and add in a square crop, 4:3 crop and 3:2 crop, and measured the relative "megapixel" sizes. The square came out to a relative 50.1 mp, the 4:3 crop at 48mp, and the 3:2 crop ended up being 44mp. So, while the square crop was the largest megapixel-wise, the 4:3 crop was only 2mp less, while the 3:2 crop was 4mp lower than the 4:3 and 6mp less than the square crop. (ouch)
If I cropped a square image out of the 4:3 image, I ended up with 35.5mp, and from the 3:2, a square crop ended up being a mere 26.4mp. Again, the 3:2 crop loses out badly compared to 4:3
If I started from a square image of 50.1mp, and cropped that to 4:3 and 3:2, I ended up with a 37.3mp and 33.2mp images. Once again, the 3:2 image was the big loser.
The upshot being that it seems that the best aspect ratio to shoot in is 4:3. Since nobody wants a square image most of the time, and all other things being equal, the 4:3 aspect ratio seems to give the highest resolution. Granted, a 3:2 crop from a 4:3 image would be smaller than a straight 3:2 image from the same sensor, but overall, the 4:3 crop seems to be the best all-around size.
(I did the whole exercise to try to determine if maybe a square crop wouldn't be the best way to get the most out of our lenses--in the end, I was surprised to realize that probably my 4:3 was the best way to get the most out of the imaging circle of the lens)
True, but if you care about resolution (and not saying it matters), m43 sensors are capped at about 20mp right?
@@giac01 I think the post is not about megapixels but efficiency. The post is saying that 4/3 native format sensors uses the lens more efficiently.
Pavel’s got it. I wasn’t talking about megapixels (esp. in regards to sensor size), which is why I used the term “relative”. 4:3 format makes the most efficient use of the image circle that lenses cast on sensors, regardless of a particular sensor’s size.
It's frustrating when we recognize a problem with our own photography, but don't know the solution. Today I experienced the satisfaction of a previously unknown knowledge gap being filled. Thank you.
Awesome! Thanks for watching mate :)
I like the idea of a 2 hour shot, it would be relaxing well I go about my work. If it's comfortable on your head, that might be nice as well.
I love your POV videos, so an uncut version were you talk for ages taking photos would be pretty cool, nice photos by the way
Cheers Ryan :)
I got the G9 for many reasons but aspect ratio didn't really play a part oddly. I've found myself cropping to various ratios including 3x2 even tho I agree with you about it seeming a bit shallow in landscape and slim in portrait. Also Instagram doesn't like 3x2 so that takes some white border fiddling. I'm now liking and more often sticking with the native 3x4 but I tend to just go with what best suits each image. Also like a bit or really narrow cinematic style letterbox shots like frames from a film (not photos of letterboxes...).
Cheers James, stay away from the bat wing soup.
Good answer.
id love to see you do an uncut video!!!
Definitely do a GoPro only video!
Looking forward to the book! xclnt stuff. So we can conclude that 1:1 is the lightest aspect ratio because we can all throw away our vertical grips and travel lighter, lol.
Haha, that's right! Thanks for watching 🙂
I'm just waiting for square lenses.
What lens are you using in this video? Curious what focal lengths were used b/w the 2 shots of the wall
James, did you think of shooting from on top of the wall, perhaps 3-4 ft above the wall, so that you could catch the sinuosity of the wall leading off into the trees?
I always love your videos. I also shoot in 4:3 as that's what most printing companies (yup I use Aldi, LOL) print in. Please please please don't release long videos of GoPro footage. I hate the lens distortion. :-)
I like to shoot with my film TLR...but film and its processing is expensive. So I use a digital camera set to 1:1 and b/w when I am looking to find good compositions and to practice. You are wearing a wedding ring...congratulations.
i literally never give this any thought when im out. i shall now. same with lenses. i just go out and dont really think about it. then i get back and think "yeah i should have really thought about that.
loved the talking through format for the latter part of this. might have missed it, but do you normally shoot without the viewfinder or just for go pro purposes ?
Just for the benefit of the gopro footage.. :)
Hey James, I've got a gear-related question. I own a G85 and consider upgrading to a 20 MP sensor to have more resolution left when cropping. So basically the question is G95 or G9? I like the weight and form factor of the G85, and the G95 is almost the same, but the G9 has more features and the price difference is not that big anymore. Would love to hear your opinion, thanks. And maybe related to that: Do you sometimes carry around two bodies, one with a wide angle (zoom) lens and another one with a telephoto, to minimize lens-swapping when being outdoors?
No deer on Stanage, you find sheep, pheasants and a pole. That quarry looks like the one used to supply stone for the Ladybower Dams.
I saw plenty there last year :)
Hi James, your Northern lights Photo that your selling you said it was 85% of either the A4 or A3 sheet of paper so could you please tell me what size frames do I need to buy to fit them? As I'm not good at maths and last time tried fitting a Photo with frame it wasn't right lol. That photograph from Iceland is just stunning!
Hi Lisa, a4 and a3 frames work great as that's the paper size, it's just the border that means the image only covers 85% of the paper, so unmounted frames work best :)
Thanks James, will look for some suitable Frames! You should do a video on post-production and walk/talk us through what printer and paper you use and information on making the image bigger for printing and the effects of image quality etc...
James, I do enjoy your vids but I do get the distinct impression that many pro-photographers don't know how to take good photos without mist or fog, which is a very a limiting option for many non-pros, but we do still try!
Although it must be very pleasant to do videos in far off lands of snow capped mountains meeting otherworldly beaches where unicorns gather to create brightly lit rainbows, I'd much prefer to see two hours (maybe more like 45 minutes) of you wandering around damp and badly lit landscapes trying to get a photo. Partly because I'm sadistic, partly because I'm very envious but mostly because I learn so much more.
Please do it!
haha, I hear you :)
Clouds can be quite rude. Great explanation of aspect ratio and where and why to use different ones. That's one disadvantage of shooting my DSLR but I'll probably still stick with it for a while.
In my opinion, you don't need to do one of you wandering around for two hours with a GoPro on your head unless of course there are 🐑 involved. Or you just want to. I'd watch it anyway. 🙂
I prefer 4 x 3 to use all of my sensor & helps with cropping.
When I was a uni studying photography (on film) we got taught to think about aspect ratio of the final use right from the beginning of planning a shoot and like you say shoot a bit wide so you have appropriate crop options. I don't think it's talked about all that much in photography education these days.
Is this the same location where Thomas Heaton made a video a few months back? Or years?
Great vlog James, but you should rename it "5 top reasons to use aspect ratios" ! That would put your vlog on the top everybodys screen!😂😁
haha, wouldn't it just!
Instead of an uncut video, I'd just like to join you in Antarctica. Maybe next time, starting to save starting now!
Nice! Hopefully see you in future - There will be cheaper trips too I'm sure :)
Thank you, a virus free video.. I've had enough of the world going crazy because of a flu to be honest.. That would be a great location with mist, I can imagine that you're annoyed about that! This is probably a stupid question, but since I cannot change the aspect ratio on my camera I'm going to ask it anyway.. 😅 If I would change the aspect ratio to 1:1 (if I could), would it only change the way of how I see it on the back of the camera then, or do I also get it 1:1 in Lightroom? And if I also get it 1:1 in Lightroom, wouldn't it be wiser to just shoot at the ratio of the sensor (for mine 2:3) and then later crop it, if you're doing it for a photo you think could be really good and not just for practice?
Depends on your camera, but shooting RAW usually means you can change the aspect ratio and crop outwards from 1:1 later :)
Do you ever shoot in High resolution with the G9? not using a tripod could be a problem, but for the little I've seen it's totally worth in m43 especially because it dramatically reduces noise. From the shutter noise (9:23) it also seems you are bracketing your images: how far apart are they in EV?
I've used high res once I think, cool feature though 🙂 I bracket one stop apart!
The shower comment made me lol 😆 👍🏻
Fuji dont give you the 4x3 crip in camera how crazy it's a great size
ahh, if you were around Stanage Edge you should have nipped onto Lady Canning's Plantation Mtb Trail with the bike :)
The good weather is coming! :)