How Many Pixels Do You Need? I made a 30"x40" print from a 20 MP photo

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
  • Do you have to have a high megapixels camera to make large prints? Do you have to follow 300 DPI rule to make high quality prints? Sometimes you hear people say they need to get a high megapixel camera for printing, while sometimes you hear some other people say you can print any size you want out of a 8 MP photo.
    So who is right?
    In order to find out the truth about making prints, I did a 30 inch by 40 inch large print out of a 20 MP photo captured with my Fujifilm X-T2. In this video, I am going to show you what the print look like at different viewing distances.
    I tried a couple viewing distances:
    1. 15 inch away from the print
    2. 30 inch away from the print
    3. 45 inch away from the print
    4. 60 inch away from the print
    5. Longer than 60 inches
    At 15 inch viewing distance, which is super short considering the size of the print, the print does look a little bit soft. But if you step back to 30 inch, the print looks much better. And at 45 inch and beyond, the print looks sharp and nice.
    In my opinion, if you need a high megapixel camera boils down to two questions:
    1. Do you make large prints?
    2. What viewing distance you expect people to look at your prints?
    If you make large prints and you expect people to look at your prints at a super close distance, then you probably will benefit from a high megapixel camera. Otherwise, you are probably going to be just fine with any 20-24 megapixels camera.
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Комментарии • 501

  • @willnotbetracked8222
    @willnotbetracked8222 4 года назад +247

    The older you get the bigger you can print from the same megapixels!😀

    • @yosefbrecken4531
      @yosefbrecken4531 3 года назад

      I dont mean to be so offtopic but does anyone know of a trick to log back into an Instagram account?
      I was stupid forgot the account password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me.

    • @rachelmclaughlin1491
      @rachelmclaughlin1491 2 года назад +2

      @@yosefbrecken4531 if you have the email that goes with the account, there should be a 'forgot password ' button and that will send a link to your email that will allow you to reset your password

    • @bodinian
      @bodinian Год назад +2

      That's because your vision gets worse with age. 😅

  • @olaflindner3955
    @olaflindner3955 4 года назад +80

    I cannot thank you enough! You drove out an evil demon from me.

  • @chrisford9068
    @chrisford9068 5 лет назад +87

    Great video, Ming! The correct viewing distance is key to a successful print. Our daughter and son-in-law recently asked if I would arrange to have a canvas print made from one of my older images. The plan was to have it hang in their living room, above their sofa. They chose the print and we decided to order it in a 30”X60” size. The image also wrapped around the frame. When you now walk into their living room and see this canvas on the wall, it looks fantastic. And here’s the kicker, this image was shot on my Nikon D700, a full frame DSLR with a 12mp sensor! When you walk up to it for a closer look, you’re standing 4 - 5 feet away because the sofa is in front of it. The viewing distance is perfect, and everybody is happy! 👍

  • @ukyo2010
    @ukyo2010 4 года назад +29

    I did a test several years ago to see if I can make big prints with my 12MP Nikon D90. I made 16x20” and 20x30” prints. They all looked excellent even when view closely. I will say that I could see some stair step effect in angled straight lines but it wasn’t unpleasant at all. I personally have never printed larger than 20x30 nor do I ever expect to. For my needs, I am much more concerned with low light performance and image stabilization than MP.

  • @lucuslopez6866
    @lucuslopez6866 4 года назад +23

    Unless you do some sort of high resolution photo stitch. You will need like 80mp camera to print a photo 30x40 at 300dpi. Just to give some references a Canon 5d mark ii (21mp) at full resolution can print 300dpi at 12in x 18in. Sony A7r iii (42mp) at full resolution can print 300dpi at around 14.3in x 21.5in.
    I do a lot of large format prints like 24x36, 30x40, 40x60, 48x96+++. 300dpi is only relevant is you do tiny prints like 8.5in x 11in or 11in x 17in because your more likely to get it. You can be printing 72dpi at full resolution and it will look good. If your printing big you need to focus more photo defects like noise/grain, CA, softness, motion blue, etc. You will see a lot more of these things when printing big. Its a lot more forgiving when printing small.
    The type of printer you use will be important too for sharpness/quality.

    • @RandyM403
      @RandyM403 2 года назад

      How would a 24 x 36 look with a 24mp camera with a sweet lens?

  • @cescudify
    @cescudify 4 года назад +1

    Camera companies dislike this vid. Don't be alone in the streets during the night Ming. Great content as always

  • @jody1622
    @jody1622 4 года назад +9

    So great to hear a sensible explanation of print requirements,

  • @sexysilversurfer
    @sexysilversurfer 4 года назад +35

    Don’t forget high megapixel cameras need high quality lenses capable of resolving that detail.

    • @markrigg6623
      @markrigg6623 4 года назад +3

      All lenses will give some improvement with a higher resolution sensor. The better the lense the more improvement but that does not mean you cant see any improvement with your existing lenses.

  • @user-fza3
    @user-fza3 4 года назад +11

    even you dont upload too much but the content and the information is valuable

  • @veteq101
    @veteq101 5 лет назад +14

    People keep associating megapixel with prints and keep forgetting the other reason people buy high megapixel cameras, the ability to crop the photo.
    My main camera is a 51 MP and I can do a 1/4 of photo crop and still get an amazingly sharp photo. I hardly ever print my photos (less than 10 per month). Printing was definitely not a factor on deciding what camera to buy. Great video for those that print their photos though. Subscribing.

    • @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC
      @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC 4 года назад

      spark.adobe.com/page/lqqlwZ8dIS6Zd/

    • @nickpaul2988
      @nickpaul2988 4 года назад +1

      yes but don't forget that cropping will never give you the same result as zooming with the lens directly ! Moreover you will need to shoot at lower iso with excellent stability, sharp lenses and faster speed otherwise the portion of the image you crop into will look noisy and blurrier

    • @brandonpuckett1831
      @brandonpuckett1831 3 года назад

      Nick Paul What about shooting on APSC crop mode on the new Sony’s?

  • @stevepa999
    @stevepa999 4 года назад +2

    Higher MPs are also needed if you crop your images. FF cameras also handle high ISO noise better. When you enlarge pictures with noise, the noise gets amplified.

  • @endaguerin8044
    @endaguerin8044 2 года назад +3

    One of the best videos I've seen related to photography in a while thank you for doing these tests and sharing your experience and breaking it down in a way that's very easy to understand.

  • @RomanCanas
    @RomanCanas 5 лет назад +15

    Great video! For me the real advantage of high megapixels cameras is the ability of crop images and still been printable, specially for wildlife, long telephoto lens are very expensive and heavy.

    • @MingCai
      @MingCai  5 лет назад +5

      Roman Canas yeah that's true, instead of spending 5k, 8k even 10k on a lens, might be better to spend additional 1k or 2k on a body

    • @gregfeeler6910
      @gregfeeler6910 Год назад

      Or you could go Micro Four Thirds with 7-stops of image stabilization and telephoto lenes that are longer, lighter, and less expensive than FF equilivents.

    • @bodinian
      @bodinian Год назад

      ​​@@gregfeeler6910 everything has a cost. Then you're dealing with worse ISO performance. There'll always be a compromise.

    • @gregfeeler6910
      @gregfeeler6910 Год назад

      @@bodinian The advantage of 7 stops of image stabilization is that for many shots you can use lower ISO than you could with a camera without that. With that approach a MFT camera can make images with less noise than a FF camera. Yes there are always trade offs, but almost none with MFT any more. Peace.

    • @bodinian
      @bodinian Год назад

      @@gregfeeler6910 wild birds won't hold still long enough for long exposure photos. It's nice to laud the advantages, but there's always a trade-off. Bigger sensor cameras are heavier and more expensive, smaller sensor cameras have worse ISO performance. That's just the balance.

  • @davidwarren7279
    @davidwarren7279 5 лет назад

    Ming, you are one of the first people to give a clear and straightforward answer to this question! Tony Northup mentioned print sizes, but he didn't bother to actually produce a large print (he just made a small print that was heavily cropped).

  • @connynaumann5139
    @connynaumann5139 2 года назад

    Finally someone who speaks the truth. I’m a Graphic Designer and enjoy photography since the darkroom days. I had to retire my beloved Nikon D300s and made the move after a lot of research to a Nikon z6 which was used but in mint condition. People ask me, why I didn’t choose the z7 or z9. I said:”what for?!” It completely suits my needs and my first print actually blew me away. Problem is, many people really don’t understand the calculations of megapixels. I met a guy who looked at a 35mm film camera of mine, who himself owns a flagship of a Canon, and asked me where the ISO switch was.

  • @msfotostudioo
    @msfotostudioo 5 месяцев назад

    The best video on this topic i have ever seen and it's 5 years old. Thank you Ming!

  • @CoastGuy09
    @CoastGuy09 Год назад

    It isn't just about printing. I want to future proof my work. I sometimes use an 83 inch 4k flat panel to show my work. I want to make sure that no matter how large future screens are, that my work will hold up and look good. Shooting wildlife, I often crop heavily. Sometimes I remove as much as 90% of the original image. The more pixels I have, the more I have to work with after cropping. I often use Giga Pixel for enlargement for heavily cropped images. It is all about planning ahead for technology that doesn't currently exist but will eventually. Currently I use 50 and 61MP cameras. There is no such thing as too many pixels.

  • @ronmortimer252
    @ronmortimer252 4 года назад +1

    I like my D7100 24 mp apsc sensor camera because I can crop quite aggressively (which you mentioned) and still retain a lovely, viewable photo.

    • @Kiwicruiser355
      @Kiwicruiser355 4 года назад +1

      It happens all the time with my bird photography. Followers are amazed at how ' close ' I can get to the birds. D7500 20mp.

  • @ZeldagigafanMatthew
    @ZeldagigafanMatthew 4 года назад +3

    This is something that people need to have explained to them constantly. Viewing distance makes such a substantial difference in the quality/sharpness we can perceive. An image used for a highway billboard may have only been 12 megapixels out of the camera, but that's okay because of just how far away people are when viewing it. This is why UHD isn't that beneficial if you're still sitting ten feet away from the screen, unless you go with a larger screen that is. It's also one of the core reasons why I don't see the benefit of 4k screens in 15-inch laptops for people who are not content creators.

    • @borderlands6606
      @borderlands6606 4 года назад +1

      A billboard typically requires 2 megapixels. To get more definition a camera requires about twice as many pixels, considering they are distributed horizontally as well as vertically.

  • @Coldgecko
    @Coldgecko 5 лет назад +3

    Ming, you did a great job explaining something that I really should have known. I do blow up my images to large sizes regularly. I do own a high mp A7RIII but I also do so because as you mentioned, for cropping liberty. I often don't know what lens I need and when I travel and dont have space on a motorcycle or while trekking, it's hard to change lenses, so I am forced to crop on occasion afterwards. Good Job.

  • @irisheyes3639
    @irisheyes3639 Год назад

    Thank you Ming.
    This is the first video tutorial on the subject that actually answered my questions!
    Well done.
    ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @helthuismartin
    @helthuismartin 4 года назад +1

    The best real world test i have ever seen.Good job.

    • @MingCai
      @MingCai  4 года назад +1

      helthuismartin Thank you for your comment

  • @shayne08
    @shayne08 3 года назад +1

    This is gold! Exact video I was looking for

  • @RyanLunaPhotography
    @RyanLunaPhotography 5 лет назад +10

    lol...this is great! Yup, it's all about distance from the print you're standing. People forget that large freeway billboards were shot using 6, 8, 10...etc megapixel cameras. I print at 24x36 inch on my X-T2 and they look clean as can be from 3-4 feet away. Hell, when I stand 12 inches from the print, (pixel peeping), I don't see any noticeable degradation of the image.

    • @ulrikchristiansen
      @ulrikchristiansen 5 лет назад +1

      Hi. X-T20 here. I am still confused about dpi. How large a dpi should I export with when printing 24x36 inches?... What about half that size... 300 dpi or lower? Thanks :)

    • @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC
      @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC 4 года назад

      This is incorrect: spark.adobe.com/page/lqqlwZ8dIS6Zd/

  • @remulocarvalho4326
    @remulocarvalho4326 Год назад

    Thanks a lot Ming. Excellent explanations. Many times we are tempted to go many megapixels but you have just showed us that most of the times we do not need them even for big enlargements. Great video.

  • @surface1326
    @surface1326 Год назад

    Your video has answered a long time question that I've had about printing. I really appreciate you making this video.

  • @anta40
    @anta40 2 года назад

    Nice, clear explaination.
    For most of hobbyists, 24 MP is more than sufficient.
    Unless you want to print something really big, like 2m x 3m which ocassionally inspected at very close distance, then probably get a 50 MP medium format. Of course realistically speaking, how often we need that?

  • @hackmedia7755
    @hackmedia7755 3 года назад

    You can also print at higher dots per inch than 300. Also the computer monitor is only about 70 dpi. So you need to see the photos in person.

  • @karlwagner932
    @karlwagner932 4 года назад

    YOU ARE A VERY TALENTED COACH ! BEST VIDEO ABOUT THIS TOPIC AND A VERY SIMPLE AND SOLID EXPLANATORY!! THANK YOU SOOO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND SUPPORT ! ALL GOOD STARS ON YOUR WAY !!

  • @Beautybyjorge
    @Beautybyjorge 4 года назад

    This video has been beyond wonderful. Thank you so much for all of your information. It helps clear up a lot of questions I had. Thank you

  • @chrisguli2865
    @chrisguli2865 4 года назад +1

    One item to consider is many high end printers that are typically used to make these huge prints, and even the smaller consumer printers, is that they can print much higher than 300 dpi and also will interpolate the pixels such that there is a smoothing effect (anti-aliasing) so there is less possibility you will see a "staircase" effect even when viewed close up - 16-20mp is more than enough for almost any magazine or larger printing up to 30x40. I've seen huge prints from the Oly 16 and 20 mp M43s...could not tell they were made from any specific camera. Oh and yeah I would not view a 30x40 from 15 inches away too close! Who watches their 55" large screen 4K TV from 15 inches away?

  • @mistergiovanni7183
    @mistergiovanni7183 2 года назад

    Very good arguments Ming, but I would have liked you to deepen what you say to the minute that 8 MPX are already enough to make large prints. I have seen wall-sized prints with 6 MPX cameras and the quality and color reproduction is very good and no one would look at her at a distance that can be touched by reaching out. I believe that this discussion in practice was overcome more than 15 years ago when professional cameras reached 8 MPX. It is a great truth that the war for the MPX is just more of a marketing argument than a real need and it will surely bring more problems than solutions, unless we have the need to make very savage crops. We are fortunate to live in a time when almost any digital camera, even a compact one, can produce excellent photographs. Thank you very much for making this video, I think it is by far the best.

  • @Ameliatherobloxfairy
    @Ameliatherobloxfairy 4 года назад +1

    A long pending confusion has finally been removed . Was in a dillema over the choice of camera Nikon d 7500 with 20.8 mp as against 24 mp in most of the entry level cameras. Very very nice video Ming.

  • @TScott-sg2mb
    @TScott-sg2mb 4 года назад +2

    Then there is the factor of how detailed the photo is and if one wants it's detailed rendered a certain way. I noticed your 15" viewing spot on the print looked liked it contained a fair amount of detail, which could lead a viewer of that area up close to think it's "soft". I liked your video and subscribed, look forward to seeing more of your videos.

  • @umtresmeia
    @umtresmeia 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for this video, despite the non metric units 😅. I have the XT-3 and I print a lot of photos, but I wasn't sure about larger prints, and now I'm more comfortable and confident about giving it a try. And I'm obviously not thinking about printing it that large, but something like 23x15 inches (approximately as I converted from cm 🙂 ). I guess my XT-3 will do just fine.
    Thank you 👍🏻

  • @hum2020
    @hum2020 Год назад

    Very good straight forward prestation im looking forward to your next one.

  • @ronaldmontilla6239
    @ronaldmontilla6239 4 года назад +1

    I think high mega pixel camera is needed more not for printing but for cropping, some clients insist of having the option to crop the photo whichever they want without losing much details.

  • @jtidsskids
    @jtidsskids 2 года назад

    In my opinion this video should be viewed far and wide because it offers a common sense view of printing large prints. I have just been reading about high pixel camera and have decided that they don't offer enough to me to justify the very high expense of changing systems i.e. new body, lenses and flash triggers. I have decided to stick with micro four thirds as the system is capable of producing excellent images and prints. The largest I have printed is A2 size which is "only" 16.5 by 23.375 inches yet even at this size I would soon need to move to a larger house with more wall space.
    The 300 ppi "rule" is often quoted and as you say comes from commercial printing. I believe that for years the standard printing presses were capable of printing a fixed "screen" of dots at 147 dots per inch and that they printed a slightly offset "screen" for each of the colours Cyan Magenta Yellow and Black (CMYK) and that Nyqist's Theorm means that the data should be at at a minimum of twice the output ppi i.e 294 ppi or greater. The printers many of us use at home use a different method of putting ink down on the paper that does not employ a fixed "printer screen" size meaning that the 300 ppi rule does not apply. All this is a long winded way of saying that your 30 by 40 inch print looked great. Thanks for the video.

  • @johnrflinn
    @johnrflinn Год назад +1

    For huge prints I just fall back to my Mamiya Press Super 23 camera with a 6x9 back which gives me the equivalent of 125 MP. Cost for camera $500 with lens vs $5000 for used Fuji GFX 100 body only.

  • @maryammavaji73
    @maryammavaji73 5 лет назад +1

    Great video and strong explanation, probably the best that I've ever seen till now on RUclips, good job

  • @lesliedellow1533
    @lesliedellow1533 9 месяцев назад

    I make that 129dpi. Given that nobody is likely to be viewing a print that size from a distance of eighteen inches, it should be more than enough. The main advantage of a high mega pixel count is that it leaves us with plenty of scope for cropping.

  • @neilarmitage6632
    @neilarmitage6632 4 месяца назад

    Coming from the printing industry with my own commercial high end industrial full book printing machines. And super high resolution images. The industry requires a minimum of 300dpi. But when printing large format prints 600 dpi is required. So, you need a camera and lens which can deliver the highest resolution

  • @wastedtalentusa
    @wastedtalentusa Год назад

    Amazing video. Great explanation. I believe other people already made that comment, but the problem is if we need to crop the image and keep the same print size.

  • @fingersmcginty
    @fingersmcginty 4 года назад +2

    Ming Cai: this is a great video! Thanks so much. I also appreciate the time you took to make this watchable, and funny.

  • @kathypb6b650
    @kathypb6b650 4 года назад +1

    I found this video very informative and very easy to understand.
    THANK YOU

    • @MingCai
      @MingCai  4 года назад

      Kathypb6 B Thank you for your comment

  • @boomcity4942
    @boomcity4942 2 года назад

    Excellent explanation. You made this simple to understand. Thank you!

  • @toddstrong1353
    @toddstrong1353 4 года назад

    Nice shot of St. Malo church in Colorado... also known as the Church on the Rocks. Nice image!

  • @Bobby74892
    @Bobby74892 4 года назад

    You answered a number of my questions! Great presentation... clear and concise.

  • @dominicwroblewski5832
    @dominicwroblewski5832 2 года назад +1

    Of all the cameras I have,12, 16, and 24mp I find the image quality of the 12mp Nikon D300 to be the most pleasing. There is something about the images I get from the D300 that, to me, look better. It may be the fact that it does not use a sensor made by Sony were as the other cameras have Sony sensors. Most people will view a large print from a greater distance as it is more pleasing to the eye and the mind.

  • @croppermc
    @croppermc 3 года назад

    Great analysis. Well thought out and executed. Please keep making more videos.

  • @sanramondublin
    @sanramondublin 3 года назад

    thank you.
    the best and sincere explanation about the megapixel.
    greetings from California/Iran.

  • @sonicracer1
    @sonicracer1 5 лет назад +1

    Great video Ming, thanks! So was ‘sweater-Ming’ convinced to stay with the X-T3 :-)... You recommend not to worry about dpi 300. What i did when printing large (1x2 meters) was to increase the resolution in photoshop with the resizing image options. That way the communication with the printing office doesn’t get confused (they cannot screw up) and you can actually ‘see’ on your screen how it will work out. Plus PS does a nice job with the resizing and you can apply output sharpening after to taste. Cheers, Remco.

    • @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC
      @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC 4 года назад

      There are ways of making prints far beyond what this video knows anything about: spark.adobe.com/page/lqqlwZ8dIS6Zd/

  • @joshuadrilon3832
    @joshuadrilon3832 4 года назад +1

    The great thing about technology nowadays is that there are cheaper alternatives to get the same result that you want, similar to a 40 megapixel camera. If you take something like a Fujifilm XT-3 for example, with a 26 megapixel sensor, although it is an aps-c sensor and not a full frame, you can still get pretty great results, especially if you try the focus bracketing or focus stacking technique and fix the images together using a software in post production.

  • @sh91899
    @sh91899 4 года назад

    There's a bunch of other stuff not mentioned. 1) These bayer sensors already use up-scale interpolation. The true MP count is considerably lower. A "24 MP" camera captures 6MP of real color data. 2) When you send a 133 dpi image to a printer, the ripper will up-res it to the printer's capabilities. A 1200 dpi HP will not throw down just 133 dpi. You can take on this upscaling if you want control using stuff like Gigapixel AI. 3) there are people like me that sell large prints meant to be viewed close which is why I use a telephoto for landscapes and stitch the images into gigapixel files. Sometimes, people do want to walk up to a print and see the hidden details.

  • @trueblack6760
    @trueblack6760 3 года назад

    Thanks, I understand I don't need a high megapixel camera at all...
    I'll keep on using my Nikon Df for couple more years.

  • @goliaboi
    @goliaboi 3 года назад

    Thanks for the awesome video Ming! Very informative and your print looks great! Cheers!

  • @tomhalbouty3653
    @tomhalbouty3653 Год назад

    Good points. Perhaps the most important question might be, how deeply do you crop images. If you are a wildlife photographer and tightly crop birds and toss out most of the image, then under this scenario, more megapixels become very important and can be the difference between a useable and unusable photo.

  • @KayakCampingOffGrid
    @KayakCampingOffGrid 3 года назад

    Excellent job! SUBSCRIBED!
    I don't understand, but am happy anyway... That's the point, huh! It's just so easy for the camera marketing media to hoodwink a whole population to believe the hype!
    You have debunked the myth, and I just ordered the Canon R6, instead of the much more expensive R5.
    Thanks!

  • @benkotowicz174
    @benkotowicz174 3 года назад

    Ming, the resolution is not by what your camera can resolve but by what the printer can resolve.
    If you take an 8X loupe and lay it on your 30X40 print, I think you will see it is not clear and the edges are not well defined.
    Remember digital printing is currently operating on the 300dpi level. That is not very great compared to film which is on the molecular level. And photographic print paper for chemical development is also on the molecular level.
    Look at some prints from the 1940s that were printed on chemically developed paper, glossy and ferrotyped. The picture you look at does not have to be very large (2X3 inches). Now take a loop to that photo and see the amazing details in even a mm sq. area. You'll be blown away!
    Granted, there are different ways to look at a digital photo, such as you mentioned. There is also the human eye factor and how much the eye can resolve.
    Early on when digital was in its infancy, I used a Vivicam 1.3Mp camera. I printed to 8X10. The prints looked great! Then the printers changed their method and at the Walgreens I would get a message that said the dpi was to low. Can you make the leap and understand what that is about?
    When the 'Red Light Cameras' were installed at intersections 35mm film cameras were used to record license plates because digital did not have the oomph, the resolution. A strobe flash was also used for night illumination. Now because of the higher Mp on digital cameras, film cameras are not needed to see the plates.
    Just depends how you want to see small detail. How large is the pickup CCD on the Hubbell Telescope? Maybe a square meter? And how are the photos viewed to see detail from the Hubbell?
    And one more thing. When you take a photo with your camera it is probably in jpeg form. That means that the final image in your camera has gone through an algorithmic washing machine that resides on some chip in your camera. Then you send it to the printer where it also goes through an algorithmic washing. So it is not only the Mp of the camera but also the algorithms that are used, seldom mentioned. Some company owns the algorithms.
    My experience comes from the 1970s when I was a photo lab technician at an aerial survey company.
    Best Always.

  • @TanyaOwens
    @TanyaOwens 3 года назад

    Thank you Ming Cai, this video was very helpful. I am trying to determine print sizes for my images and your demonstration really helped to allay some concerns that I had and answered some questions.

  • @jaxchambers7652
    @jaxchambers7652 4 года назад

    Old school track. If u woul like to crop do this if you would 8x10 make or order a 11x14 and . Physically cut it to the size you want you get a better image than crapy your digital files and it is much less cost than a new camera with a bigger sensor. We did the same thing with 35mm and medium format cropping will always Give you some kind of problem. But the best fix is testing you camera and know how far u can go with it. Thx for your Channel all ways helpful.

  • @ArminHirmer
    @ArminHirmer 5 лет назад +2

    well explained and one could still shoot, at least in some circumstances, a pano. I use an old Fuji with just sixteen MP and it works just fine

    • @djtoman6875
      @djtoman6875 5 лет назад

      Armin Hirmer That 16 mpxl sensor in the X100S, X-E1 and X-Pro1 is a beauty, made by elves from Hokkaido with magic pixie dust.

    • @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC
      @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC 4 года назад

      He has no enlargement authority. spark.adobe.com/page/lqqlwZ8dIS6Zd/

  • @CO8848_2
    @CO8848_2 4 года назад +1

    Only 11k subscribers? Great content.

  • @avs4365
    @avs4365 4 года назад +2

    Little to add when one agrees with every point made. Video should be used as an introductory course 1st step for all budding photographers - subscribed with thanks.

  • @capt1089
    @capt1089 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks Ming. Good description of MP needed for printing. I'm sticking with my Fuji XT2.

    • @MingCai
      @MingCai  5 лет назад

      Jim Kirkpatrick Thank you Jim for your comment. Enjoy your X-T2😁

    • @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC
      @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC 4 года назад

      He is very wrong: spark.adobe.com/page/lqqlwZ8dIS6Zd/

  • @mas3ymd
    @mas3ymd Год назад +1

    While it’s true people stand back further from larger prints, they do tend to like to move close to see more detail… if it’s available.

  • @MLGochnauer
    @MLGochnauer 3 года назад

    It's almost always photographers who will check out a large print from a few inches away, and usually only to figure out the tools that were used. Sometimes adding film-like grain that can be seen when close enough to notice the image going soft will act as a "back off!" sign. At least for older people, we are accustomed to accept resolution limits linked to the appearance of grain. But the grain size and roughness must be matched to the image resolution for this to work best.

  • @jasonbourne4155
    @jasonbourne4155 3 года назад

    Thank you Ming! I was on the ledge, trying to justify moving away from my Nikon D7500 (21MP) to a new D750, full-frame (24MP). After watching your very informative video, I'm not motivated to buy something that I do not likely need. My largest desired print is probably 16" x 20", with the majority being 11" x 14" or smaller. Your explanation and method were very well thought out - keep up the great work!

  • @Swade99
    @Swade99 5 лет назад +4

    You said that the purpose of this video was to help people decide if they need a high MP camera. Can I suggest an alternative use?
    The benefit I got from it - it's OK to make BIG prints from your 20-something MP camera. So do it.
    The decision on what gear to buy - meh. Who cares? It's a boring discussion that'll never end.
    The decision to make bigger prints, though..... now that's a result. Printing in any way is hugely rewarding, and anything that encourages people to try making BIG prints is a good thing. I have a 6ft-wide pano on my wall to prove it :-D

    • @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC
      @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC 4 года назад

      HIGH resolution images at 12-+ inches are possible at 300ppi and higher! spark.adobe.com/page/lqqlwZ8dIS6Zd/

  • @RandyM403
    @RandyM403 2 года назад

    This video was very helpful. Thanks. 👍

  • @Martincohenphoto
    @Martincohenphoto 4 года назад

    You are funny and you are right on!! This video made me smile a lot, thanks for sharing!

  • @thecaveofthedead
    @thecaveofthedead 4 года назад

    I like that you don't try to 'disprove' but merely show the practical reality. Personally I like to lean in close to big prints to see details and then step away to see the whole picture. I like both. Strangely, I don't mind so much when a big print's resolution breaks down with film, because it turns to powder - while digital turns to a slightly unpleasant mosaic mush, IMO.
    So a 20x24" print from 400ISO 35mm film looks good to me, even close up, while I want a digital print the same size to stay sharp down to the tiny details to look good for me. I think I'd reduce printing resolution a bit from 300ppi to make a bigger print, but probably not below 200.

  • @robertthrailkill1368
    @robertthrailkill1368 4 года назад

    Nice simple presentation. Film cameras had the same issue except silver grain was the limiting factor. With 35mm film prints over 16x20 inches were impossible due the film grain affecting the image. That is why medium format 120 film and sheet film 4x5 and 8x10 were used. The larger film size gave more silver grains (ie pixels) with which to make a larger image without it getting grainy and fuzzy. Digital image taking and printing is more straight forward vs film.

  • @nickathos7428
    @nickathos7428 2 года назад

    Exactly the video i was looking for thank you for saving me money on buying not buying the canon r5 over the r6👏😄

  •  4 года назад

    This guy delves into the real data and ignores the advertising hype, keep your eyes on him!

  • @derekcampbell4413
    @derekcampbell4413 Год назад

    Excellent video. Very informative and really well presented. Thanks for sharing. I just subscribed.

  • @GoodOleGrant
    @GoodOleGrant Месяц назад

    Thank you for making this video it is so helpful!

  • @utomotjipto5294
    @utomotjipto5294 2 года назад

    Thank you. Very clear explanation.

  • @rainerbuesching1
    @rainerbuesching1 5 лет назад

    totally agree. viewing distance should be about diagonal of photo. convinced to keep my Fuji. convinced to subscribe.

  • @rhykko77
    @rhykko77 2 года назад

    Excellent analysis !

  • @rightmatt
    @rightmatt 3 года назад

    Excellent presentation

  • @deanoplym
    @deanoplym 3 года назад

    I've printed a2 and a1 size prints from my Nikon d700 which is only 12mp and the images look amazing. I use high quality lenses which is just as important as the camera body.

  • @Dazdigo
    @Dazdigo 3 года назад

    Human eye is around 22 mm. When telescopes and magnifying glasses refer to magnification, it is just the len focal distance divided by 25 mm.

  • @geoffreyarnold7292
    @geoffreyarnold7292 4 года назад +2

    When I made some larger prints from my 6 mp Nikon D 70 years ago, I uprezed the files with Genuine Fractals. It worked amazingly well. I don't hear anything about that any more. I later went from a 12 mp D 800 to a 36 mp D 800. At 36 mp file sizes and speed becomes an issue.

  • @ubonrat8653
    @ubonrat8653 2 года назад

    Great video Ming, thanks

  • @thedarkslide
    @thedarkslide 10 месяцев назад

    I've printed 12MP to 30 by 40 inches. No issues - even up close to the print.

  • @jeremyeade7827
    @jeremyeade7827 3 года назад

    Good job. Very helpful. Seriously

  • @kjl6138
    @kjl6138 3 года назад

    This is awesome- thank you! Keep promoting the truth! You are 100% on the mark! Subscribed!

  • @Crushonius
    @Crushonius 3 года назад +1

    everybody seems to get dpi wrong
    it is dots per inch as in the dots that the printer is putting on the paper
    they come in four colors cyan magenta yellow black
    so technically 300 dpi would have been 75 ppi but nowadays both dpi and ppi mean ppi

  • @LewisCarlyle
    @LewisCarlyle 4 года назад

    This is a great little experiment. Nice insights.

  • @fixitright9709
    @fixitright9709 Год назад

    He is correct, being able to crop is the biggest advantage of more megapixels, but the reality of moving from 24 megapixels to lets say 46 megapixels is about a 33% increase in cropping, it's not a lot considering you're nearly doubling your megapixels, and a landscape photo with little fine detail does not need the same DPI as a landscape photo say with a very large tree nearly filling the frame.

  • @mrsusan893
    @mrsusan893 5 лет назад +2

    Great content mate. Do you have a video about how you prepare an image for print, colour profiles etc.

  • @ItsPinecone_911
    @ItsPinecone_911 4 года назад +3

    I upload photos to IG and FB where they down grade the photo quality. Prolly dont need more than 10mp...........so I go and buy a Sony A7R III (42.4mp) and saving up for A7R IV (61.0mp). ☻......No I dont need it but love the amount of detail in these high mp cameras. Great video though. Very informative. 👍

  • @rarindraprakarsa4376
    @rarindraprakarsa4376 4 года назад +2

    Great explanation. My friends always update their cameras with new bigger megapixels, and the media they show their works is no different... which is instagram lol

  • @AlexandruT1987
    @AlexandruT1987 Год назад

    I would like to share my experience as a large print graphic designer. Shit in, shit out. If you have 6000x4000px uncompressed images you can fairly print good quality prints up to 255x150cm. Due to the proportion this will not fit, but I was printing this large wall decorations and if I got a native noncroped, not upscaled picture I could make it work to look awesome on that size.

  • @themechanic7638
    @themechanic7638 3 года назад

    First time on your video dude and I already subscribe. I really like the way that you explained the difference. Keep up with good content.

  • @RippleEffectProductions
    @RippleEffectProductions 4 года назад

    Very well explained. Totally agreed..

  • @matthewkoczwara
    @matthewkoczwara 5 лет назад

    Thanks Ming! Have had the same questions cross my mind in the past. Great job in explaining them simply and clearly.

    • @MingCai
      @MingCai  5 лет назад +1

      Matthew Koczwara Thank you Matthew!

    • @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC
      @MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC 4 года назад

      Excapt he is wrong.
      spark.adobe.com/page/lqqlwZ8dIS6Zd/

    • @GoneToHelenBach
      @GoneToHelenBach 4 года назад

      @@MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC You would say that he's wrong, because you're trying to sell a course on fine art photography & printing and have stooped to the depths of abusing the comment section of his video with your spam marketing. How very 'low' of you.

  • @iandavis1355
    @iandavis1355 4 года назад

    It certainly helps having really good glass with a great camera. A Sony A5000 with the kit lens would not yield your results. I've printed 4 posters (24"x36") using my 24mp A6300 and Sigma 56mm lens with fantastic results. And I've also printed a 24x36 image shot captured with my 12mp Mavic Pro and was blown away by the quality. Thanks for this video. I hope this encourages others to print big. (btw...my local Costco--Peterborough, Ontario, Canada--seems to have updated their printer and paper used for 24x36 (approx 60cm x 90cm). I was really impressed by the results. It's also a inexpensive way to do a test print for the curious...$18 Canadian if uploaded to the store. They also offer printer profiles that I use with Lightroom.)

  • @arielalejandrogarma3672
    @arielalejandrogarma3672 5 лет назад

    ohhh it's an excellent photo I love these colors Ming , congratulations !!!

    • @MingCai
      @MingCai  5 лет назад

      Ariel alejandro Giesler Thank you!