Great review as always! But, I don't think those Maiden Backs are gonna fool anyone. The marking system jumps right off the card and smacks you in the face :p
but you have to admit, the keepers come third. only 5$ when you buy a brick, marked on 4 places and they handle better than any other marked deck out there. right?
I think I will not sell them. In fact, I will use all of them during my magic years. After I watched the trailer, I believe Marked Cards is the most useful tool, especially with a stack.
Eh, not a great review honestly. You didn't really talk about what makes them "the best marked cards of all time," other than they look like Bicycle cards, which is obvious on its face. So I'm left making assumptions based of other reviews you've done, where you DID name properties, like how hidden the marks are, readability for older folks, etc.
True, but this was an over view - I suppose if you wanted a more in-depth look - you could watch the individual review for each deck ruclips.net/video/EtM_NIATcgE/видео.html
when you say everyone in the world recognizes this deck, that everyone grew up playing with this cards, I think you are only talking about the USA. in my country I never saw the bicycle deck on any store shelf...
Bicycles are considered "Premium Imports" in India, nobody gonna know what they look like anyway xD although lately some companies have been stepping up their game and making good products
@@tusharjamwal yeah they are expensive in india the cheapest premium deck you can get is from Nikhils Magic Shop where you can find bikes starting at ₹350 which is pretty expensive.
I just picked up the Marksman Deck and I'm simply blown away at all the stuff that you can do with it. Luke Jermay deserves a lot of credit for releasing this gem. The instructional video is very enlightening and I was working with the deck a day-and-a-half after I got it. Highly recommended.
Once I knew to look for them, I could see the markings… but I can see how, onstage or somehow in the spotlight (in a crowd gathered on the street with all eyes on them, for ex.), with a magician talking at them and putting things in their hands and directing their attention this way and that, during a five-minute long trick, a volunteer would never notice the markings - not in a million years! 🙂 I wouldn’t use these to play poker with seasoned pros, though…!! 😮
The Penguin Maiden Back marked deck now comes in the blue back. I have two of them. Furthermore, the deck comes with matched jokers and two gaff cards: a blank card and a doubled blue back card. Easy to read marks. If you have seen the review this guy does on the 10 marked decks that he likes, you know that he separates marked decks into "coded" and "reader" style marks. The Maiden Back is a reader style deck.
Although I have never owned a Marksman deck, I agree that the Penguin Magic marked deck is the best. I’ve tried many other marked decks. All the others have failed me in respect of cost and readability. I always buy the Penguin Magic decks. Thank you 😊
I have the new marked penguin deck just because I wanted one. I use a self-made marked deck of Gold Standards as my "walkin around" deck and I might eventually switch it out for the penguin deck. The marksman deck looks really good but I haven't gotten around to learning the entirety of mnemonica yet(up to 24 though :/)
people will only "look" for markings on cards if they "suspect" you are using marked cards - the trick is - treat them like you would treat any other deck
@@magicorthodoxy I have a Dekram Deck, for me it's the best marked deck ever. A handful of times over the years, someone will take a card and closely inspect it thinking that it's marked. Noone has ever spotted it. Why? They're eyes go to the corners of the card and not where the markings are. I agree that the AH was super easy to spot and i wonder if it's just b/c my eyes have been trained to see the markings. But i'm terrified to change cards in favor of the markings being located in the corners.
I have literally been sitting next to the spectator and was not caught out. He even asked if he could see "his" card so I casually said "Sure!" and handed it over - just that one, of course :) He stared at the back for a good while and said "Well, I can see it's not marked in any way..." and went on wondering what I might have done. He's an intelligent guy and has an eye for detail - but he didn't see it because *he didn't know it was there* !
@@HafzaProductions2019 Yes, but you know it is there and that it is a marked deck. You know what to look for. Most people really don't notice more than the fact that the back is red or blue. Always using regular Bicycle cards helps. Honestly, I have used this deck many times now and it has never been suspected.
Great review like usual. Funny when i seen you say 2 best marked decks on the planet. I was going to ask you to review the mark deck from penguin. I have no doubt marksman deck is amazing. But for less then the cost of 2 marksman decks you get 12 marked decks from penguin. Only reason why i havent got it yet i was worried the quality was going to be subpar. So im glad you did this review tyvm!!
magicorthodoxy my concern with bikes is they seem to be getting really thin and flimsy as opposed to when I got my first decks when I got into magic a couple of years ago. Seems to be all the recently printed decks when you look at the ad copy on the bottom. Of the box
Love your reviews. I bought the marksman deck after watching your review on it. In this review you give a quick look at the back of the marksman, but not the other. Is it possible to get a peek? I love a good marked/reader back. Use them all the time as a back-up as you suggest here. Often I preform with a marked deck, then do a switch out for a regular deck and hand it to them for inspection after and say they can keep it. Cheers and thanks again. Just wanted a quick peek at the back.
Actually, the most affordable option out there is David Blaine's Black Lions Seconds, at 5.00 USD per piece and 55 USD per brick, plus it comes with a few gimmicks in the faces of the cards. However, Blaine never advertised his Lions as marked decks nor it came with instructions, so only a handful of people knows how to read the Lions' mark (both the suit and value; I've seen some people says it's half marked). With the Marked Cards it is easier to do all the mentalism routines in my opinion. But I shall also add if one already has a handful mem-deck routines, a stack is more useful than the mark; the mark is there if one messes up.
With the maiden back deck, all I needed to know was that it was a marked deck and I saw the markings instantly, but if I didn’t know it was a marked deck, I probably wouldn’t of seen them. However with the marksman deck, there’s too much going on in my opinion and I can’t read it. I haven’t bought either of them, if I did, I presume I’d know ho to read it
I've known magicians who've loaned marked decks to layman to play cards with and they NEVER saw the markings after days of card play. Most people don't see things even when it's staring them in the face
I will certainly be looking for those online myself. Do you have the Bicycle Blue Inspire Marked Deck by The Blue Crown? I picked up like a brick of these back when they were on sale on Amazon, 2 Decks for $9.95, which are hands down the cheapest marked deck I've ever come across. I just checked and they are currently unavailable on Amazon, but I'm sure that someone out there must have them. They aren't the Traditional Bicycle Back Design, but coming out of the Bicycle Box with the ever-reliable USPCC Printing, Duplicate Jokers, and Double Backer, these are worth seeking out, in my opinion at least. On a Blue Background with a double border, there are two Bicycles with the wording "Follow Your Dreams" Atop and inverted at the bottom of the card in White, and if you can tell time, you can easily make out this hard to see marking system, let's just say I'll leave it at that.
I saw the marking system immediately when you showed the back of the card. If I can see it in just a few seconds glance, so can the spectator. People are not stupid.
yea but you KNEW it was marked when you started watching, so you had knowledge that the lay public wouldn't have. I've had these cards for months and NEVER been caught. :D
Penguin sells GT Speedreaders, but these cards are simply called "Marked Cards" on their website - they are not the same deck, but great clarification :D
The penguin marked decks are so god damn clean. I love how cheap they are and how amazing they feel. Not only are they great handling but very easy to read if your a worker buy this deck it is amazing.
Are the routines given with the maiden backs applicable to other marked decks or do they capitalize on the marking techniques specific to the maiden-back deck?
I have the Marksman deck and would only use it in certain situations... too scary and I don't want to wear it out. (Little tip for the Marksman deck... I replace the 4C on top of the deck with a 4C from a regular mandolin deck... thus hiding the marks as the full deck sits on a table in front of me while I'm talking etc.) Hands down the most invisible (to the spectator) marked deck is D.B. Black Lions. And for me quite easy to read. They could look at those cards for a year and never find them.
I am from the uk and really those cards are rarely seen here, the problem with those kind of marked decks is you struggle to see the markings, Dmcs are best as if you get someone to pick a card you can literally see it as they pick the card from the pack, you can probably do the same with this deck but not 100% of the time, plus the Dmcs are better looking !!!
normally, I'd say yes- but these markings are easy to read - plus again like I mention in the video - these decks are more widely recognizable for magicians
Is it just me or the marks in the Marksman Deck are just extremely visible to lay audience? No disrespect to Luke of course but is seems that if the spectator just take a glimpse at the back they can see the marks..
so you're saying, you've practice, and performed with it and a lay person saw it? If you treat the cards the way Luke does it is highly unlikely a spectator will ever see it.
sorry, that'd be cheating - let's say you don't buy em - THEN you know what the cards look like - that won't be fair to the magicians who do spend their money. In magic you $$$ for secrets. Sorry
I know I’m late to the party, but I’m just going to leave this here. This is for the people who think the Maiden Backs are obvious. They are. And that’s the point of them. These are now the only cards I use. In a year and a half of using them, I’ve been caught only twice, and that’s because I did stupid effects where it was OBVIOUSLY a marked deck. The thing is, if they want to inspect the back, they are going to find the marks. But you have to make them assume that they aren’t marked. Jon Armstrong’s video with the deck goes over a lot on how to not use it like they think a marked deck would be used. I highly recommend this deck.
I think the Maiden deck is horrible. I don't care if it's cheap in price, only if you are crazy to buy a brick. But man, do you really need markings in SIX places? They're so easily spotted. Isn't that defeat the purpose of a marked deck?
Yes easily spotted by someone who knows they are there but a person who is skilled with a marked deck will know how to use them effectively. Luke Jermays deck has more marks than that. Anything good enough for Luke is good enough for me
I liked those when they first came out, but since then I've noticed how small the markings are - also these two decks look more "normal" and come with hours of great instruction! :D
I'd agree with you to an extent, that they're the best BICYCLE decks on the planet. For all the reasons you mentioned. But absolute best marked decks on the planet (irrespective of Bicycle design or not), no chance. Till date I've never seen a better marking system than the one used by the Sharps deck (by Legends), as it's the only marking system (that I know of, anyway) that can pass the dreaded riffle test. Furthermore, you can read the markings from across a table. You'd need binoculars or something to manage to do that with these bicycle decks 😆
they are both obvious, but only for magicians and people who are looking. Most lay people are concerned with the faces and hiding the face from you - then they are about the backs - if you treat the deck like a normal deck - so will they
The consensus of the comments seems to say that this was more of a sales pitch video. I like your videos where there at least seems to be no bias. Thanks for all your videos, though.
As long as you have an opinion about a topic (which you're bound to even subconsciously as long as you're aware of that topic) you can't be unbiased. You will always feel one way or the other. And since the title is "the best marked cards" clearly the viewer is aware of my bias before they even begin watching. LOL
We watch David’s reviews because we WANT his opinions. It would be a waste of our time if he simply said, “Meh! I dunno ...”. Personally, I don’t get the opinion that David is being paid to “sell” these products. If he is, then he’s very good at it, because I have purchased magic based on his reviews, and others’.
@@magicorthodoxy Phoenix cards are also made by USPCC. But also you do seem to be reviewing cards with other back designs. I mean, it's fine if you don't like them, I am just really interested why.
@@magicorthodoxy nicht weil ich weiß wonach ich suchen muss. Es gibt markierungssysteme da muss man wirklich genau hingucken bzw fallen sie nicht sofort ins Auge wie z.b. das inspired Deck. Aber bei diesen beiden Decks fällt es sofort ins Auge und ich kannte diese Decks bisher noch nicht mal. Da ist ja das boris wild Deck besser und selbst da ist es schon auffällig. Das 1800 hat auch die direkte Markierung dort fällt es aber nicht sofort ins Auge
magicorthodoxy I still think the butterflies are better, however, your point of having a marked deck that best resembles a common deck that most people are familiar with...then you are right on brother. Great review.
But man, these cards are trash.... There's too much informations on it. And for a normal spectator it would look quite obvious. I don't think these cards are the best marked cards on the planet. Just some marked cards and for sure none of the best. But i like your videos and your enthousiasm
Have you picked up either one of these? Tell the world what you think of em.....
magicorthodoxy waiting 4 win one of these in a monthly giveaway :p
Great review as always! But, I don't think those Maiden Backs are gonna fool anyone. The marking system jumps right off the card and smacks you in the face :p
but you have to admit, the keepers come third. only 5$ when you buy a brick, marked on 4 places and they handle better than any other marked deck out there. right?
I've got 2 bricks of marked cards! I bought a marksman, but I will never use it.
I think I will not sell them. In fact, I will use all of them during my magic years. After I watched the trailer, I believe Marked Cards is the most useful tool, especially with a stack.
Eh, not a great review honestly. You didn't really talk about what makes them "the best marked cards of all time," other than they look like Bicycle cards, which is obvious on its face. So I'm left making assumptions based of other reviews you've done, where you DID name properties, like how hidden the marks are, readability for older folks, etc.
True, but this was an over view - I suppose if you wanted a more in-depth look - you could watch the individual review for each deck ruclips.net/video/EtM_NIATcgE/видео.html
Marksman Deck review: ruclips.net/video/hSET39pc7GM/видео.html
@@magicorthodoxy Oh, I didn't know you did separate reviews on this. That's helpful. Maybe put in a video link?
when you say everyone in the world recognizes this deck, that everyone grew up playing with this cards, I think you are only talking about the USA. in my country I never saw the bicycle deck on any store shelf...
good point
Migabyte28 it's all over Canada too
Bicycles are considered "Premium Imports" in India, nobody gonna know what they look like anyway xD
although lately some companies have been stepping up their game and making good products
Yep, i agree with you too...I'm from india and I have to search at so many places before I found the bicycle being sold in a store....
@@tusharjamwal yeah they are expensive in india the cheapest premium deck you can get is from Nikhils Magic Shop where you can find bikes starting at ₹350 which is pretty expensive.
I just picked up the Marksman Deck and I'm simply blown away at all the stuff that you can do with it. Luke Jermay deserves a lot of credit for releasing this gem. The instructional video is very enlightening and I was working with the deck a day-and-a-half after I got it. Highly recommended.
AGREED !!!
Once I knew to look for them, I could see the markings… but I can see how, onstage or somehow in the spotlight (in a crowd gathered on the street with all eyes on them, for ex.), with a magician talking at them and putting things in their hands and directing their attention this way and that, during a five-minute long trick, a volunteer would never notice the markings - not in a million years! 🙂 I wouldn’t use these to play poker with seasoned pros, though…!! 😮
The Penguin Maiden Back marked deck now comes in the blue back. I have two of them. Furthermore, the deck comes with matched jokers and two gaff cards: a blank card and a doubled blue back card. Easy to read marks. If you have seen the review this guy does on the 10 marked decks that he likes, you know that he separates marked decks into "coded" and "reader" style marks. The Maiden Back is a reader style deck.
:D
The red keepers gotta be may favourite marked cards.
I like those also, but the marks are too small for me
Gotta agree.
but the cards handle so awesomely. I have good eyes so I have no problem reading them. got to be my favorites to.
A new marked deck came out recently is the Bicycle Pure Mark from TCC.
Although I have never owned a Marksman deck, I agree that the Penguin Magic marked deck is the best. I’ve tried many other marked decks. All the others have failed me in respect of cost and readability. I always buy the Penguin Magic decks. Thank you 😊
YES! YES! YES!
Great review David 👍 I agree I love marked decks also. They are your best friend in magic ✨
Yes they are!
I have the new marked penguin deck just because I wanted one. I use a self-made marked deck of Gold Standards as my "walkin around" deck and I might eventually switch it out for the penguin deck. The marksman deck looks really good but I haven't gotten around to learning the entirety of mnemonica yet(up to 24 though :/)
COOL !
The marking on the maiden one popped out at me right away. Do spectators actually not see this?
people will only "look" for markings on cards if they "suspect" you are using marked cards - the trick is - treat them like you would treat any other deck
This deck is so bad, it really pops right away...
Does the average spectator know what a marked deck is? Probably not, so they probably won't notice it if they aren't looking for it
Would you be so kind to list your top 10 tricks of 2016/2017? Would be appreciated!!
wow that would be fun
The marked Maiden back is so obvious, is that I can instantly see the marks. 3:38 that card on the top is the Ace of Hearts.
only because YOU KNOW it's a marked deck. I've never been caught with it once.
@@magicorthodoxy I have a Dekram Deck, for me it's the best marked deck ever. A handful of times over the years, someone will take a card and closely inspect it thinking that it's marked. Noone has ever spotted it. Why? They're eyes go to the corners of the card and not where the markings are. I agree that the AH was super easy to spot and i wonder if it's just b/c my eyes have been trained to see the markings. But i'm terrified to change cards in favor of the markings being located in the corners.
I have literally been sitting next to the spectator and was not caught out. He even asked if he could see "his" card so I casually said "Sure!" and handed it over - just that one, of course :) He stared at the back for a good while and said "Well, I can see it's not marked in any way..." and went on wondering what I might have done. He's an intelligent guy and has an eye for detail - but he didn't see it because *he didn't know it was there* !
Yvonne Wilson If you preformed to me and let me handle the deck, I can clearly see the markings.
@@HafzaProductions2019 Yes, but you know it is there and that it is a marked deck. You know what to look for. Most people really don't notice more than the fact that the back is red or blue. Always using regular Bicycle cards helps. Honestly, I have used this deck many times now and it has never been suspected.
Great review like usual. Funny when i seen you say 2 best marked decks on the planet. I was going to ask you to review the mark deck from penguin. I have no doubt marksman deck is amazing. But for less then the cost of 2 marksman decks you get 12 marked decks from penguin. Only reason why i havent got it yet i was worried the quality was going to be subpar. So im glad you did this review tyvm!!
you don't ever need to worry about 'quality' from USPCC
magicorthodoxy my concern with bikes is they seem to be getting really thin and flimsy as opposed to when I got my first decks when I got into magic a couple of years ago. Seems to be all the recently printed decks when you look at the ad copy on the bottom. Of the box
Got a brick of maiden back ! Phenomenal and soft
:D
Pretty Interesting. I was using Mandolin and Maiden deck.:) About the Maiden deck, There was a marked deck from Theory11.:)
hmmm interesting
Love your reviews. I bought the marksman deck after watching your review on it. In this review you give a quick look at the back of the marksman, but not the other. Is it possible to get a peek? I love a good marked/reader back. Use them all the time as a back-up as you suggest here. Often I preform with a marked deck, then do a switch out for a regular deck and hand it to them for inspection after and say they can keep it. Cheers and thanks again. Just wanted a quick peek at the back.
my bad..i hit rewind and saw you did include a shot of the back. awesome. I'll pick up a brick. Thanks again.
For me none of these decks are really an option because they are Reader Backs. Next I don‘t use any marked decks
Always love your videos!!! Thank you so much!
You are so welcome!
Actually, the most affordable option out there is David Blaine's Black Lions Seconds, at 5.00 USD per piece and 55 USD per brick, plus it comes with a few gimmicks in the faces of the cards. However, Blaine never advertised his Lions as marked decks nor it came with instructions, so only a handful of people knows how to read the Lions' mark (both the suit and value; I've seen some people says it's half marked). With the Marked Cards it is easier to do all the mentalism routines in my opinion.
But I shall also add if one already has a handful mem-deck routines, a stack is more useful than the mark; the mark is there if one messes up.
good comment
Do either deck require any memory work to learn the markings?
Actually might have to pick up one of the mandalin backs
:D
With the maiden back deck, all I needed to know was that it was a marked deck and I saw the markings instantly, but if I didn’t know it was a marked deck, I probably wouldn’t of seen them. However with the marksman deck, there’s too much going on in my opinion and I can’t read it.
I haven’t bought either of them, if I did, I presume I’d know ho to read it
I've known magicians who've loaned marked decks to layman to play cards with and they NEVER saw the markings after days of card play. Most people don't see things even when it's staring them in the face
Is the mandolin back available on Amazon the same marked cards or is that just a normal deck
Normal deck
These decks are incredible. But my favorite is the Penguin deck because of its simplicity. Both are very usefull.
agreed
My favorites are the keepers which are only like seven bucks, but I love the mint decks so much.
stick with your favorites :D
I will be getting 2 regular Mandolin Back deck on eBay. One of them, which I will be turning to a stripper deck.
nice
I will certainly be looking for those online myself. Do you have the Bicycle Blue Inspire Marked Deck by The Blue Crown? I picked up like a brick of these back when they were on sale on Amazon, 2 Decks for $9.95, which are hands down the cheapest marked deck I've ever come across. I just checked and they are currently unavailable on Amazon, but I'm sure that someone out there must have them. They aren't the Traditional Bicycle Back Design, but coming out of the Bicycle Box with the ever-reliable USPCC Printing, Duplicate Jokers, and Double Backer, these are worth seeking out, in my opinion at least. On a Blue Background with a double border, there are two Bicycles with the wording "Follow Your Dreams" Atop and inverted at the bottom of the card in White, and if you can tell time, you can easily make out this hard to see marking system, let's just say I'll leave it at that.
:D
Marksman deck is awesome. My favorite deck.
agreed
What about the Phoenix marked decks? They are quite good as well!
I don't own any
I saw the marking system immediately when you showed the back of the card. If I can see it in just a few seconds glance, so can the spectator. People are not stupid.
yea but you KNEW it was marked when you started watching, so you had knowledge that the lay public wouldn't have. I've had these cards for months and NEVER been caught. :D
Just to clarify not all mandolin decks are marked. I think the ones from Penguin are called GT Speedreaders. Great videos keep up the good work.
Penguin sells GT Speedreaders, but these cards are simply called "Marked Cards" on their website - they are not the same deck, but great clarification :D
I have the code deck which is really good. Definitely going to get a brick of the marked decks from penguin asap are the marks easy to read etc?
I've heard people like this better than the Code
The penguin marked decks are so god damn clean. I love how cheap they are and how amazing they feel. Not only are they great handling but very easy to read if your a worker buy this deck it is amazing.
agreed
Will you review Mental Pen by João Miranda and Gustavo Sereno?
GREAT IDEA !!!
Are the routines given with the maiden backs applicable to other marked decks or do they capitalize on the marking techniques specific to the maiden-back deck?
I suppose some could be applicable to other marked decks - sure
Hi David. Are they easy to read with over 50s eyes?Keep up the good work.
I am 49 and these are my 2 favorites
Thanks for that.
I have the Marksman deck and would only use it in certain situations... too scary and I don't want to wear it out.
(Little tip for the Marksman deck... I replace the 4C on top of the deck with a 4C from a regular mandolin deck... thus hiding the marks as the full deck sits on a table in front of me while I'm talking etc.)
Hands down the most invisible (to the spectator) marked deck is D.B. Black Lions. And for me quite easy to read. They could look at those cards for a year and never find them.
I prefer the DB "trick deck" - one of my favorite reader decks
Do you recommend the red keeper masters?
TOP 10 Marked Decks - ruclips.net/video/6jqR0A-ebak/видео.html
Brick of maidens for 5$ each?! Sounds like I'll have to commit some crime, and hopefully it will be only one for a very long time...
ha ha
YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOWN HOW THEY WERE MARKED SO WE COULD SEE IF WE LIKED THE MARKING SYSTEM!!!
My top 2 are Madison dealers and les melies. However, your review makes me wanna buy maiden backs.
LOL
Purchased Mandolin Back
wow
I am from the uk and really those cards are rarely seen here, the problem with those kind of marked decks is you struggle to see the markings, Dmcs are best as if you get someone to pick a card you can literally see it as they pick the card from the pack, you can probably do the same with this deck but not 100% of the time, plus the Dmcs are better looking !!!
normally, I'd say yes- but these markings are easy to read - plus again like I mention in the video - these decks are more widely recognizable for magicians
i still prefer mint playing cards, big up, great job
I like the Mint
Sorry, but I think the NOC deck is the best marked deck. There is no pattern on the back. Just a plain rectangle.
why'd you say sorry - NOCs are great
love the content man.
:D
Hi, are there any gimmicked effects that you would recommend with a price range of about 120-150 dollars?
wow ! That's a lot of money! I don't typically shop in that price range - I don't know.
magicorthodoxy Sorry that would be about 60-80 dollars my bad--- my currency is different
but if the mandolin backed marksman are 35 bucks, why wouldn't I get 2 gt speed readers from penguin?
only if you want to go all the extra effects that I list in the video - the speed readers dont do that
Is it just me or the marks in the Marksman Deck are just extremely visible to lay audience?
No disrespect to Luke of course but is seems that if the spectator just take a glimpse at the back they can see the marks..
so you're saying, you've practice, and performed with it and a lay person saw it? If you treat the cards the way Luke does it is highly unlikely a spectator will ever see it.
Are these deck marked with a marking system or reader backs?
what about the rider back ultimate marked deck?
BTW, I've become addicted to your reviews
never got that deck - so can't comment on it - besides... isn't it sold out?
magicorthodoxy I bought a few on ebay for like 7 bucks each. It's a reader back 808 wich is awesome
magicorthodoxy is there any way I could see the markings on the decks you are talking about ? Before I make a purchase
sorry, that'd be cheating - let's say you don't buy em - THEN you know what the cards look like - that won't be fair to the magicians who do spend their money. In magic you $$$ for secrets. Sorry
magicorthodoxy yes sir completely understand
In your maiden back deck I seen the mark of the ace of diamonds on top at first glimpse
Ok
The Mandolin back shown was the 9♦️and the Maiden back shown was the A ♥️
I know I’m late to the party, but I’m just going to leave this here.
This is for the people who think the Maiden Backs are obvious.
They are.
And that’s the point of them.
These are now the only cards I use.
In a year and a half of using them, I’ve been caught only twice, and that’s because I did stupid effects where it was OBVIOUSLY a marked deck.
The thing is, if they want to inspect the back, they are going to find the marks.
But you have to make them assume that they aren’t marked.
Jon Armstrong’s video with the deck goes over a lot on how to not use it like they think a marked deck would be used.
I highly recommend this deck.
GREAT COMMENT ! VERY MUCHO AGREE
I think the Maiden deck is horrible. I don't care if it's cheap in price, only if you are crazy to buy a brick. But man, do you really need markings in SIX places? They're so easily spotted. Isn't that defeat the purpose of a marked deck?
Yes easily spotted by someone who knows they are there but a person who is skilled with a marked deck will know how to use them effectively. Luke Jermays deck has more marks than that. Anything good enough for Luke is good enough for me
Do you know what keepers are
best and cheapest marked deck
I know what keepers are - the marks are way too small to read - which I mention in my video ruclips.net/video/6jqR0A-ebak/видео.html
Are these still the two best
YES
in my opinion, the bicycle 1800 have an amazing marking system. best for me
I liked those when they first came out, but since then I've noticed how small the markings are - also these two decks look more "normal" and come with hours of great instruction! :D
magicorthodoxy im talking about the new edition with the performance finish
ha ha - mine says "performace" coating. (no "n") those are the same ones I am talking about
where do I buy a brick of these cards?
Online? Magic store? Ebay?
Are the maiden backs from penguin the same as theory 11?
THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTION - nope - the Penguin Magic ones are sold exclusively from Penguin (I mention that in the video)
magicorthodoxy Thanks I must've missed that part.
I'd agree with you to an extent, that they're the best BICYCLE decks on the planet. For all the reasons you mentioned. But absolute best marked decks on the planet (irrespective of Bicycle design or not), no chance. Till date I've never seen a better marking system than the one used by the Sharps deck (by Legends), as it's the only marking system (that I know of, anyway) that can pass the dreaded riffle test. Furthermore, you can read the markings from across a table. You'd need binoculars or something to manage to do that with these bicycle decks 😆
sharps are kinda hard to find nowdays, if you like that style of marking - sounds like you'd enjoy the DMCs
Are you going to review the DM green deck...dealers...marked?
you can always use the search feature to find what you're looking for ruclips.net/video/x9bzvJ-5DRg/видео.html
How do you feel about the 1800's?
they're ok, but they don't look like normal cards ruclips.net/video/0EjeB895FnE/видео.html
The Red Keepers tho...sigh...are they better than Keepers??
if YOU like the keepers - stick with em - the marks are too small for me - plus with these you get hours of instruction
Sorry but I don't understand. Are these decks Official Bicycle decks?
what does "official" mean? They are made by USPCC
the butterflie's double marking system
The Butterfly's are a code you need to memorize - these are both reader backs - nothing to learn -easy to read
Cool, so these 2 are easy to read then?
yes they are "readers" so they clearly say 6C, AH etc
Not for me, the ultimate marked deck is mine. Combine that with a deck switch device, you're golden
yep, I have that one also
Where can I buy? thanks
online? a local Magic store? ebay?
Mandolin deck markings are decently hidden but the other one is blatently obvious
they are both obvious, but only for magicians and people who are looking. Most lay people are concerned with the faces and hiding the face from you - then they are about the backs - if you treat the deck like a normal deck - so will they
There are a ton of countries that don't sell bikes including mine (Dubai)
this is true
The consensus of the comments seems to say that this was more of a sales pitch video. I like your videos where there at least seems to be no bias. Thanks for all your videos, though.
As long as you have an opinion about a topic (which you're bound to even subconsciously as long as you're aware of that topic) you can't be unbiased. You will always feel one way or the other. And since the title is "the best marked cards" clearly the viewer is aware of my bias before they even begin watching. LOL
We watch David’s reviews because we WANT his opinions. It would be a waste of our time if he simply said, “Meh! I dunno ...”. Personally, I don’t get the opinion that David is being paid to “sell” these products. If he is, then he’s very good at it, because I have purchased magic based on his reviews, and others’.
Hey David!
Please review the Phoenix Marked Deck.
I don't like Phoenix cards, so I don't own any - sorry
@@magicorthodoxy Can you quickly summarize what you don't like about Phoenix cards?
I like cards that look like Bicycle and made by USPCC, why settle?
@@magicorthodoxy Phoenix cards are also made by USPCC.
But also you do seem to be reviewing cards with other back designs. I mean, it's fine if you don't like them, I am just really interested why.
eh, like I said ... I just don't like them. I don't like the tuck design, the weird font, the big bird graphic .... we don't have a good history LOL
i have a blue maiden back
cool
Red keepers
Great cards
Still at the top of your list?
yep
"you don'T have to agree with me" ... " we have to get along"... in short, you want us to agree with you lol
lol
I didnt know they were marked
only THESE decks are marked, not every Maiden or Mandolin back is marked. Shop around.
Die Markierung sieht doch sogar ein Blinder
Nur weil Sie wissen, wonach Sie suchen müssen
@@magicorthodoxy nicht weil ich weiß wonach ich suchen muss. Es gibt markierungssysteme da muss man wirklich genau hingucken bzw fallen sie nicht sofort ins Auge wie z.b. das inspired Deck. Aber bei diesen beiden Decks fällt es sofort ins Auge und ich kannte diese Decks bisher noch nicht mal. Da ist ja das boris wild Deck besser und selbst da ist es schon auffällig. Das 1800 hat auch die direkte Markierung dort fällt es aber nicht sofort ins Auge
Ich musste ja nicht mal suchen es fiel sofort ins Auge das ist ja gerade der Punkt.
@@magicorthodoxy vor allem das zweite Deck sieht aus als hätte man es nachträglich manipuliert die Schrift ist nicht mal in das Design eingearbeitet
Your wrong. The ultimate marked deck is the best one
You are is a contraction (You're)
Are they readers or marked?
both are readers
magicorthodoxy I still think the butterflies are better, however, your point of having a marked deck that best resembles a common deck that most people are familiar with...then you are right on brother. Great review.
The marksman deck is really hard to understand, with all those numbers on the back.
Wild's deck is better. Heck, even the Ultimate is better.
What is marked deck
for magic tricks
escada. fboards playing cards with a secret code allowing to know what card it is.
That 1st card is ace of heart omg simple marking
:D
i think its too easy for everyone to see this....
Maiden decks marks are way to obvious in my opinion.
Every magician thinks that, but they are invisible if you don't know it's a marked deck
Yeah I guess also you can read them very fast so i guess a spectator would not realize
Why are marked decks so important?!🤔
i agree they are imp for card games....i ask for magic.....why are they soooooooooo imp for magic??
you dont see the advantage of knowing what card a person has taken by looking at the back?
magicorthodoxy i see the advantage but we are anyways gonna control the cards.... but they can be great for mentalism effects.....👍
controlling cards is fine, but this gives you an extra edge. I explain it all in the review
magicorthodoxy true that....i rest my case your honour 😅👍
Maiden was a ace
ok
#Bee-cee-clay
im in it to win it ;)
But man, these cards are trash....
There's too much informations on it.
And for a normal spectator it would look quite obvious.
I don't think these cards are the best marked cards on the planet. Just some marked cards and for sure none of the best.
But i like your videos and your enthousiasm
LOL - well a lot of people like them - and I've never been caught with them once!
wtf these are so cheap, you need to buy at least 2 bricks
man only 60 dollar for a brick of marked cards 😂😂😂😂
agreed